Fun fact: if you check Furina's attributes before the story quest, it will say "???: hydro" But after the story quest the attributes will now say "vision: hydro"
Which is a really nice detail… until you realize her first ascension line has her blatantly stating she has a vision 😔. Like cmon that’s probably one of the first lines someone’s gonna hear from her, they could at least make it one of the later ones!
For everyone wondering and debating, yes, it is very clear that Neuvillette was the one who granted Furina her vision, his new character story provides the explanation that he now treats his powers as a treasure he shares, and will continue to grant humans with a strong will visions. Neuvillette granted Furina her vision. That I think is a sweet detail.
and it can also be why Furina got pnuema and ousia alignment and the fact that her vision case has a "dragon claw" Neuvillette really shows how precious Furina is to him.
Everything we see before and during the quest was her putting on the greatest performance of all time. Now that show has finally ended she can finally act like herself.
@@rs4902it’s said somewhere that she seems to have the persona ingrained in her now after so long performing it, so any involuntary show/act of “Archon Furina” shows trauma
Probably the saddest part of all of Act 5 was when she had her first audience with the people of Fontaine and she is forced to act that way and the same player is the one who lies to the citizens of Fontaine.
I don't care, for her deeds alone she's more worthy to be the archon than most archons When I say that the hydro archon's my favs I'm obviously not referring to focalors but Focalors&Furina as it is the work of both of them as one archon that saved the entire nation Focalor's godly soul with Furina's human body
@@beanik835no visions are distributed by celestia while archons are the apotheosis of what the vision aligns to: freedom for venti, "robustness,steadyness" for zhongli etc they don't die even if the archon itself dies
when she mention "local legends" i think she challenge neuvillette but after read again "local legends" she mention its like viviane and another...... wait a minute she still alive after fight that shit mob when i still can die? she strong enough now after get vision?
I read somewhere that Neuv gave Furina a vision and the reason why she can switch from Pneuma to Ousia is because he also has full control of those energies, in a sense it's a nice gesture from him after all she had to go through
My headcanon is that if Neuvillette can now distribute the Visions, he felt Furina's inner spark igniting and calling for a Vision, and he made sure that she receives a very special and powerful one for everything she has endured for Fontaine's sake. The ultimate recognition from the Dragon Sovereign.
It's stated in his lore regarding visions For one to receive a vision, they must be acknowledged by the heavens, and when they do the individual will receive their vision through the archon of that element (although unknowingly, because visions are only granted through them). But since Neuvilette has reclaimed his full power and by extension absolute authority over hydro, handing out hydro visions will be by his will alone.
Neuvillette DOES say he would definitely be watching her return to the stages (his "About Furina" line). He is also notoriously observant (Furina even making a stalker joke when he suspects she may not be the Archon, during the Archon Quest) and he also enjoys theater, so much so he said he'd be watching The Little Oceanid as soon as it got out, so perhaps he WAS watching her play all along, by accident or not.
Neuvillette's first vision granted since regaging all his powers, and it was to a child forced to be alone, pretending to be someone else in constant fear of being discovered for centuries. A Girl who finally now can be herself, and heal. She suffered for a people she didn't really rule, all the time fighting to find a way to save them, even fruitlessly. A worthy vision.
There are theories that said the one who gave Furina's her Hydro Vision was Neuvillette. Because he is basically become the fully fledge Hydro Dragon Sovereign, so he now most likely have complete control towards giving or not giving visions too. After all, he already got all of his stolen authorities from Celestia back to him through Focalors sacrifices. But of course this is just theories. Whether visions being given by Celestia themselves or it's simply happened. EDIT: Oh, also Furina's Vision is somehow to have dragon fangs/claws shape in it.
The Seven Sovereigns are not responsible on giving away visions. Their elemental authorities are stolen from them to begin with. So how in all these centuries that vision exists?
if i were right neuvillete did got his authority as dragon sovereign because of gnosis but since he gave the said gnosis to knave so he should be back to who he was before
Granting vision seems to me an automatic process Celestia nor the archons are aware of it seems. It may just be one of the "laws" of this world wherein were someone to show themselves worthy through any number of criteria, a vision would manifest and grant them power
So, basically, that’s Neuvillette’s gift to her, niice! As we have read in his character stories and in Archon Quest, one of the Seven Thrones is gone now, so Celestia lost it’s power over Hydro and it’s visions. Neuvillette, on other side, has got his memories and some parts of lost knowledge. So he decided to continue “sharing his authority” to those who will show their will by himself only. That’s pretty interesting…
This proves that archons themselves don't give visions, it's Celestia who does it, and i believe to be a automatic prossece for them, once a person meets the check list, they are given a vision by Celestia of a specific element automatically, with Celestia not caring about the identity of the person the vision has been given to. Visions are said to be a gift from the gods, every vision weilder has the potential to ascend to Celestia, making it very likely it's Celestia that is giving the visions, otherwise how exactly would someone be able to have the potential to ascend to Celestia thanks to a vision if it wasn't Celestia the one giving it?
Didn't Neuvi give her the vision tho? If you check Furina's vision it has fangs resembling those of a dragon; mind you, this is the only vision with this design so it was probably Neuvillette the one who gave it to her. Not to mention that he now holds more power than a real archon so giving someone a vision isn't that difficult.
Furina was hard on her stance of no longer wishing to get back onto the stage as her eternal performance as the Hydro Archon took a horrendous toll on her, however to make sure all the work done to help this troupe's final play isn't gone to waste because of a sudden illness flare-up, she took the stage and filled in for the lead whose role was practically her life with the Little Oceanid's sacrifice at the end being Focalors who saved Fontaine in exchange for her life and her existence. Willing to step onto the stage to see it through and bring out a genuine performance, she has moved forward with her life as a person and her willingness to do so has been seen and acknowledged by the gods for her will to return to the stage and her determination to speak her heart out and live by her rules. One wonders how Hydro Visions are still possible with the Hydro Archon's existence removed from the Seven. This is the first Vision brought to being since Neuvillette had regained his authority over Hydro. Neuvillette seeing his power returned to him as a gift he treasures and shares and he would acknowledge those with great courage to defy odds. The existence of the Seven Archons were possible through the authority taken from the Seven Sovereigns, and as such Neuvillette can create Visions all the same if not better than an Archon could.
@@c10gamer23 He actually can, after finished the AQ, he has some more conversation and dialogue about the truth regarding the vision. And it's also confirmed where visions before come from too
@@meowvy7195 I still don't think neuvillette gives visions "From that day on, whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift. Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person" "Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself," -Neuvilette Character story (Visions) All Archons do is give some of their power to visions but they do not know who gets the vision or why. Neuvillette follows this too but he does not know who gets them so I don't think he gave it to Furina
Perhaps it is 'gnosis' in auto mode that gives them, but Celestia gives them 'the frame' characteristic of the nation. That would explain the visions as the dragons' willingness to want to rebel, but the vigilance and keep it under control by Celestia.
Nope, Celestia lost all power of Hydro to Neuvillette after the destruction of the divine throne. Neuvillette commands everything under his element from nature to vision gifting
I prefer the idea that Neuvillette is the one to give her the vision. Mostly because i despise the idea that the gods from the heavens who sentenced her nation to ruin would simply give her this power.
The origins of visions are shady asf but you can’t deny that once your will and values are strong a vision will appear. Throughout the story Furina’s values and will was always influenced by others and she was insecure of herself and her identity as Fontaine’s “archon.” Now that she’s finally free. She can perform as her truest self, she’s still a bit timid but her will has definitely changed and in doing so it gave her a vision. You can kinda also interpret the vision as a symbol of her not going back to the way she was. That she’s a new freed person. She’s now become her own person and is finally true to herself.
After this and Neuvillette's Vision story, I think a Vision is an interpretation of a certain Elemental Authority. The OG Authority can be from Celestia & The Seven Archons, or Neuvillette after he decides to share bits of his too. After a wish/will resonates with an Authority, the will manifest the compatible fragment to the real world, and shape its powers to fit its destined user. The holder of Elemental Authorities have a choice to share their powers, but to be vision holders, one has to get it themselves, using their wish or willpower. Therefore, both Celestia and Neuvillette can grant a Vision now, and Furina is the first to get his variant.
I feel good. She no longer has to be Furina the Archon, who make bombastic grand performances. She can be Furina the Artist, free to write, sing, and act what she feels truly passionate about.
Imagine if Fandango boi actually got a Dendro Vision instead of an Anemo one. Because if Archons or the `next strongest individual in charge` were the ones in full control of Vision, then Venti either just stacked his vision on all the distribution chutes to be lazy, Other archons can `trade` visions to give different elements to other people or its just gremlins in celestia all`a`long just like the Corgi in Resident evil that are the true distributors of Visions and it could just be subliminal messaging that makes the `Archons` think they are the ones in control of it.@@alisalocke2001
@@alisalocke2001 I mean dragon man likes ‘pure’ water and venti likes the wine, the proverbial gauntlet was already thrown, if the former treats and thing beyond pure water as a muddy drink. Which would likely mean zhongli would smack’ for disrespecting osmanthus wine and ei would smite that dragon for calling dango milk a sludgie paste.
Then she proceeded to leave the city grounds to fight a 3 mil hp boss and fail, go home and then accidentally flood her apartment first thing with her vision, her song is beautiful as well...
I was dissappointed that I wasn't playing with the real archon. But then again, I'm a Raiden Shogun haver and Furina has more personality than the puppet so I got over it. Also since Furina's curse got lifted does that mean she will age normally or her lifespan will be similar to Yae, Ganyu, etc?
@@jevs1555 Based on my understanding, she will age normally since her curse has been lifted due to hydro archon divine throne has been destroyed. Personally I think this is good news for Furina. She is only human after all. Immortality is curse for human.
I think one of my favorite parts in this is how absolutely ON POINT the timing was, waiting until the scene in the play where her character gets a vision and using that scene to give Furina her own! 💙
I can't remember where/if it's mentioned in-game, but I read that it's possible for Vision users to become gods. So the girl who spent 500 years pretending to be a god, might actually end up becoming a real god.
Furina is like V (from devil may cry 5)....she is the human part of Focalors just like how V is the human part of Vergil... Both suffered for a goal... Furina, to deceive the heavenly principles... and V, in order for Vergil to achieve more power...
There's this thing, probably a theory I don't recall correctly, but since it has been revealed how visions are granted(Celestia hears and grants, archons give a part of their power),that visions will empower Celestia once they have reached their ambition. And that using them comes with a price. I wonder does this apply to hydro now? Since neuvillette grants the visions, and is aware of it, it seems like he does it personally unlike the archons having Celestia involved with it? I also heard that Celestia is still involved with it but I just find it weird neuvillette would adhere to Celestia, aren't they like enemies lol, even focalors want to judge celestia
Neuvillette's Vision viewpoint Neuvillette does not need a Vision to manipulate the elements. However, there were some things he learned only after regaining his complete form: Severely wounded in the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world. To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other. *From that day on, whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift.* Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person. And when one so gifted completed their duty... the gift the gods would receive in return would be more abundant still. Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself, as like unto the dragon-treasure hoards of old, awaiting valiant humans to come and claim them. ------------------------- The "Seven Overseers" gave Furina her Vision for the competition of Her duty. Even in human form, Furina still gives her best for the many. Furina is still a Focalor in mindset and personality. For Fontain's continued existence, Neuvillette may need to plan for the order of succession.
After the 500 years of pretending to be an Archon, and carrying the nation of Fontaine on her back, she deserved the Vision. Furina has a really strong mental fortitude.
Can I ask something, once you obtain Archon Character (from character banner), there's a chance that vision won't glow because they are still Archon (Note: Appears in 1.1 event about the shooting stars, where vision can glow if the star is nearby but 2 Archon characters didn't glow), Does Furina will glow her vision?
It’s because venti and zhongli’s vision are fake. Probably just a glass orb or something. They have them to blend in with the people and not reveal their identity. Nahida and ei don’t have vision because they don’t need to hide their indentity. Furina’s vision is real
It's disappointing that Furina lost her mentally fatigued expression after she got her vision back - it was a nice way to show that even though she had her power back, she was still as vulnerable as before
I much prefer this human furina rather than the fake larping archon, also even though Neuvillete has taken over all of Fontaine's affairs, furina will always remain the hydro archon for me.
I really dont get the reason why ppl hate paimon for dragging her in. She got her vision and she finds out that people still misses her onstage. And I dont seem to see any reason why ppl of fontaine get angry on furina for prenteding as focalor because that what focalor wishes her to do.
@@hunterprotv7780Nope. Neuvillette can now officially give the Hydro Vision as well. He just has the same criterion as he has emphasis on Human Will, same as Celestia.
Hmmm question. Does the Archons give the visions or does celestia gives them? After reading the comments I became confused as during Ei's Archon quest, Yae Miko stated that "people don't want your promises, they want your attention, your divine gaze" and in response Ei said "you mean visions?" Now this is where things get confusing the Hydro Archon no longer exists and Furina got her hydro vision after the time Focalors executed herself. This is why people claim that celestia is the one that grants visions to the people worthy of them. But if celestia is the one who grants them then that means that the conversation between Yae and Ei about the divine gaze/ visions does not make sense right?
That's a very good point, omg. Didn't remember that line! Would it be a plot hole or still to be confirmed where the visions really come from and who gives them?
@@izzyainsworth I'm pretty sure that due to the Hydro Archon no longer existing after she destroyed her own throne and life, Celestia probably no longer has any control over Hydro since it was given back to Hydro Dragon. That would be the same case if Ei died and destroyed her throne as well.
@@floridianliau35 Yae Miko is the temporary Archon for Inazuma when Ei was busy battling Raiden Shogun. Ei has the order of succession plan. Yae Miko's authority exceeds Tri-Commission e.g. Tenryou's censorship attempt was overridden by Yae Miko. Ei has created Raiden Shogun's powerful elemental body, hence removing the need for Gnosis. Yae Miko is aware of subspace science and technology.
@@valenrn8657 Funny that you mentioned how Yae Miko acted as the temporarily Archon for Inazuma. I sort of made an inside joke about Miko having Raiden's powers.
Neuvillette's statement with Visions Neuvillette does not need a Vision to manipulate the elements. However, there were some things he learned only after regaining his complete form: Severely wounded in the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world. To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other. From that day on, *whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift.* Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person. And when one so gifted completed their duty... the gift the gods would receive in return would be more abundant still. Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself, as like unto the dragon-treasure hoards of old, awaiting valiant humans to come and claim them. ----------- Both Seven Overseers and Neuvillette have recognized that Furina has completed her duty for the people of Fontaine. In her human form, She has done it again on a smaller scale i.e. refer to Furina's character story.
Wait but archons don't have visions. Novelette made fun of the fact that archons of other lands brandish a fake vision to pass off as a vision user rather than have people know that they are archons.
This story quest (and Furina receiving a Vision) occur after the 4.2 Archon Quest. She wasn’t able to receive a Vision before that quest like every other Archon, but she can afterwards due to the events that occurred during it.
So when are we getting German or Japanese songs for Mond and Inazuma. Idk abt Sumeru because that place takes the entirety of SWANA, its either arabic or hindi
Don't be daft. She got the Vision because of her willpower in being silent for 500 years. The song is symbolic of her accepting her pain and renewing her spirit even after all the suffering. Her will didn't just reach Celestia, it spat in its face and took its lunch money. Absolutely worthy of a Vision.
I've been wondering how the people of Fontaine is reacting to furina walking around in public is she forgiven ? pitied ? people are angry at her? why does it say that Navia's townspeople glaring at her? did I miss something there?
So, before this did she literally just have the gods ability to use hydro? And i thought hydro pullar was taken out, so shouldnt the visions be unable to be passed anymore?
If Furina's Vision is really directly from Neuvillete, then does that mean Celestia cannot claim Furina once her dreams and ambitions are complete? Does this mean she is not eligible for ascension to Celestia? Kind of a good news then. We still don't exactly know what happens to the ascended vision holders, and I somehow doubt Celestia would be kind to the human half of the god that destroyed the Hydro Throne and gave back the Authority they stole to the reincarnation of their ancient enemy.
Neuvilette giving out a Vision implies that Fontaine is still somewhat under Celestia's thrall so more work would need to be done for Furins to not become a cog in the machine
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 how did you go from N giving out a vision to Fontaine still being under celestia? The 4.2 archon quest shows us how Focalors shattered the divine hydro archon throne and effectively restored N's powers. She severed Hydro's ties to celestia
@castlescrumbled That doesn't mean the natural order of Fontaine is severed from Celestia, though. Visions exist because Celestia ordained it as such, that implies Neuvilette still has to play ball on some aspects.
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 how do we know that for sure though? Fontaine’s ties to Celestia goes more in depth on the technicalities that we wont get any explanations for in the near future. To me when the divine throne for hydro gone, Neuvillette now just has full authority of Hydro (fact), where celestia no longer knows what goes on in Fontaine (my speculation) and N has set up his own way of giving visions (Character Story 5). He can sure be inspired by how celestia gives out visions (seeing great ambition in humans) but that doesn’t necessarily mean celestia still has control over Fontaine. I think celestia no longer has control of Fontaine in any way but that’s my own view and how I interpreted the quests/voicelines
It’s supposed to convey that she’s finished and tired of playing as the archon for 500 years. And as a result of her dedication received a hydro vision
@@chrome1966 Did you forget that the Hydro Archon doesn't exist anymore? If your claims held light, it'd be the Hydro Sovereign which gave Furina the vision
The archons don't give out visions but i don't think celestia gave her the vision either because she deceived them for 500 years some think neuvillette gave her the vision because he has complete control over the hydro element
it's neuvilltte His Vision story after you complete the archon quest Vision Neuvillette does not need a Vision to manipulate the elements. However, there were some things he learned only after regaining his complete form:Severely wounded in the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world. To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other.From that day on, whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift. Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person. And when one so gifted completed their duty... the gift the gods would receive in return would be more abundant still.Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself, as like unto the dragon-treasure hoards of old, awaiting valiant humans to come and claim them.* Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6
Everyone always betrays Furina!!! Even the cast of the musical, even her family and closest friends! Everyone gives excuses instead of apologies. This is definitely the worst.
It was a part of script for "Little oceanid". Oceanid Clio in the end of her life gets a vision, but as soon as she disappears, it falls to the bottom of sea. It was mentioned in Furina's story
So I'm still a little bit confused, so Furina was never the true hydro archon an was just pretending to be? Or she just was a vessel for the archon? Or it was something like two personalities in one body?
Furina was a body proxy made by the hydro archon and also was a showman as being the hydro archon. To put it short focalors used furina as a plot device to fufill the prophecy and to ultimately give the gnosis back to Nuevillette and save the whole of Fontaine. Focalors intentions was to die from the very start to get back at Celestia. Both Focalors and furina are 2 separate people.
Focalor wanted to be human, so as she ascended, she left her human form named it "Furina". Furina crying in the fountain of lucine isn't about the prophecy, its her pretending to be an archon for Focalors plan for 500 years, she's passed her breaking point
It's complicated but roughly this is the chronology: - All citizens of Fontaine (except the original archon) are Oceanids - The first hydro archon turns all oceanids into people with the power of the primordial sea. The detail is that when they touch the water of the primordial sea, they lose their human form and become oceanids again. -Celestia, seeing that the archon broke the rules (archons are not allowed to create humans), decides to curse the hydro archon with the prophecy - When Focalors becomes Archon she decides to end the prophecy by destroying the throne of the hydro archon (basically gathering enough power to be able to kill herself) and in this way return power to Neuvillete (who is the hydro dragon). She hoped that after 500 years Neuvillete would empathize with the people of Fontaine and by regaining her power he could finally turn them into complete humans. - Obviously his plan was outside Celestia's rules so she needed to deceive her, so she created an oceanid and gave her her appearance (that oceanid was Furina) and entrusted her with the mission of pretending to be the hydro archon so that Focalors could gather power calmly and complete her plan. Furina didn't know nothing about Focalor's plan, The only thing she knew was if she was successful the citizens of Fontaine would never have to worry about the Prophecy again. - Furina for 500 years suffered the burden of pretending to be the hydro archon knowing that she was lying to all the people of Fontaine, she was nothing more than a human and knew that the slightest mistake she made would be discovered by people which would mean that all the effort she had made until now would go to waste. - In the end, Focalors' plan was a complete success and she managed to sacrifice herself to return power to Neu. By forgiving 'all the people of Fontaine' he turned them into 100% humans, so the water of the primordial sea could not it hurt them. -No one outside of Neuvillete and the traveler know the true intentions of Focalors, which is why in Fontaine people see Furina as a fake and currently she lives as another citizen.
hmm after Reading all comment discussion about who give furina vision, iam have new question now. that really celestial or heavenly principle not notice the one throne is get destroy? i mean in act 5 before focalor death, she say when she die the thrones its get destroy too with her and the original power will be back to Sovereign. after that conclusion we must not have question about who give the vision to furina cause now who control and have authority about hydro its only neuvillette but really that heavenly principle not notice about what happen in their throne? or cause the gnosis still exist they not notice?. okay back from start now: 1. primordial one steal seven Sovereign power (focalors line in archon quest act 5) 2. heavenly principle or celestial give gnosis to archon for... (about "vision" in biodata neuvillete) 3. archon must give vision to people in teyvat cause its can make return 2× (neuvillette story line about "vision" in biodata Nevillete) when skirk say gnosis is comes from the remaining decender 3, and focalors destroy the throne make the hydro authority back to Sovereign but celestial or heavenly principle not notice, its mean gnosis its celestial or heavenly principle only priority?
and one more questions. maybe the archon can't give it directly, but can the archon not give visions to unwanted people? cause furina have that "will" along time ago but she get vision is now. for me its make sense furina get vision now cause when she have vision Hundred years ago its will make the focalors entire plan failed. but i relise xiao get a vision after 500? years too (i don't remember when xiao get vision but im certain it must be after Hundred years)
@@Holy.low-thinkyea archon can stop people from recieving visions, this happened with the raiden, did u forget already that she refused to give electro vision to anyone for more than a year Furina cant recieve a vision at that time because shes acting as an archon and archons doesn't need visions which could reveal that furina is not an archon.
Furina's vision is different. It has prongs at the edges. Celestia chooses who gets the vision but the elemental powers come from the archons. So this vision particular is out of Celestia's jurisdiction, theorized that this vision is given by Neuvilette
Raiden doesn’t know any better about Visions because she’s an Archon and Archons have limited say on Visions Neuvillette confirmed that he has free reign over who he decides to bestow a vision upon and he did so for Furina. Celestia has no reason to give her one especially because of what she did to them and her vision has fangs further confirming that it was Neuvillette
They did Furina dirty in the Archon quest. She suffered so much only to be hated by the people she wants to save in the end, I wish Hoyoverse will make her the next hydro archon in the future because she definitely deserves it.
I think u missed the point if u think furina wants to be rewarded with godhood. Shes tired of that she wants to be a normal person. And there is no more hydro archon anymore its impossible
@@SerendipitytheSeraphimexcuse me? how were they being a hater? more like you not being able to understand why it wouldn't be fitting for her to be an archon after all of that
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Fun fact: if you check Furina's attributes before the story quest, it will say "???: hydro"
But after the story quest the attributes will now say "vision: hydro"
Which is a really nice detail… until you realize her first ascension line has her blatantly stating she has a vision 😔. Like cmon that’s probably one of the first lines someone’s gonna hear from her, they could at least make it one of the later ones!
Ive done the story quest it still says "???: hydro" though. Mwybe i havent unlocked her friendship level enough?
@@daneddieloayon2701I guess it's furina's story quest
Yeah you need Furina’s story quest, not the archon quest. (Tho the archon quest is needed for her SQ to unlock)
@@ryninja5788can’t you still literally see she has a vision on her?
About time, girl suffered for 500+ years alone and now she finally can show her true self, all that effort is worthy of a vision if not more
Heck, I'd even give her the gnosis.
Exactly what I was thinking. If any deserves a vision, she does.
I remember some character in genshin saying that this vision is not from an ambition, it's a reward for what she's done
and her vision was special
@@hastowawandono4764yeah the special design and can control both pneuma and ousia
Neuvillette's last lore entry avout visions makes the whole thing adorable.
The ultimate recognition from the Dragon Sovereign: a very special Vision!
@@AplReachit's one of a kind vision
For everyone wondering and debating, yes, it is very clear that Neuvillette was the one who granted Furina her vision, his new character story provides the explanation that he now treats his powers as a treasure he shares, and will continue to grant humans with a strong will visions.
Neuvillette granted Furina her vision. That I think is a sweet detail.
and it can also be why Furina got pnuema and ousia alignment and the fact that her vision case has a "dragon claw"
Neuvillette really shows how precious Furina is to him.
First it’s not sweet since your discounting her achievements on there own
@@x_12unknown10 What?
@@dapur2694getting an extra strong vision cause your bestie just says so is not really that impressive.
@@x_12unknown10 I’m confused?
Damn, she seemed like a different person after the archon quest.
Everything we see before and during the quest was her putting on the greatest performance of all time. Now that show has finally ended she can finally act like herself.
@@rs4902it’s said somewhere that she seems to have the persona ingrained in her now after so long performing it, so any involuntary show/act of “Archon Furina” shows trauma
Probably the saddest part of all of Act 5 was when she had her first audience with the people of Fontaine and she is forced to act that way and the same player is the one who lies to the citizens of Fontaine.
It was all an act
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Fr, it's realistic so it's really extra sad :(
No matter who or what Furina is, she will always be an archon in my heart.
Agree 👍
I don't care, for her deeds alone she's more worthy to be the archon than most archons
When I say that the hydro archon's my favs I'm obviously not referring to focalors but Focalors&Furina as it is the work of both of them as one archon that saved the entire nation
Focalor's godly soul with Furina's human body
bro every time i see people double down on her being an archon even after she's suffered playing the role im like WHY?? she deserves a normal life!!
@@liszst true but it doesn’t mean Furina does not deserves the title of the hydro archon
Is true
Basically Furina got her Vision with her determination and Will too, glad that she got her own Vision tho for Self Defense especially ✨🌊
Funny you say that, because the very first thing she do with his vision actually to challenge the fontaine local legend lol
Aren’t all hydro visions gonna be destroyed now that Focalors is dead?
@@beanik835no visions are distributed by celestia while archons are the apotheosis of what the vision aligns to:
freedom for venti, "robustness,steadyness" for zhongli etc
they don't die even if the archon itself dies
@@beanik835no
@@beanik835 why would you think that? Archons arent the ones giving visions
my favourite thing about this is canonically right after she got her vision she went out to fight the local legends and got absolutely bodied
When did they say that she went to fight the local legends after the quest?
@@LORDxl8720check her vision story
She's just like me (Vivianne continues kicking my ass)
when she mention "local legends" i think she challenge neuvillette but after read again "local legends" she mention its like viviane and another...... wait a minute she still alive after fight that shit mob when i still can die? she strong enough now after get vision?
@@Holy.low-thinki mean this is her 2nd time being bodied by a local legend
I read somewhere that Neuv gave Furina a vision and the reason why she can switch from Pneuma to Ousia is because he also has full control of those energies, in a sense it's a nice gesture from him after all she had to go through
My headcanon is that if Neuvillette can now distribute the Visions, he felt Furina's inner spark igniting and calling for a Vision, and he made sure that she receives a very special and powerful one for everything she has endured for Fontaine's sake. The ultimate recognition from the Dragon Sovereign.
It's stated in his lore regarding visions
For one to receive a vision, they must be acknowledged by the heavens, and when they do the individual will receive their vision through the archon of that element (although unknowingly, because visions are only granted through them). But since Neuvilette has reclaimed his full power and by extension absolute authority over hydro, handing out hydro visions will be by his will alone.
@@thecommentguy9380can you tell me where do I find genshin lore like this
@@MotivatingMemers character profile
@@thecommentguy9380uhh, no, the autorities don't decide visions, only Celestia
Neuvillette DOES say he would definitely be watching her return to the stages (his "About Furina" line). He is also notoriously observant (Furina even making a stalker joke when he suspects she may not be the Archon, during the Archon Quest) and he also enjoys theater, so much so he said he'd be watching The Little Oceanid as soon as it got out, so perhaps he WAS watching her play all along, by accident or not.
I like how the design of her Vision’s casing is a combination of the two different Fontaine Vision types.
And fangs
It makes sense. The different types symbolize the different alignments but furina can use botb
Is it true her vision is extra special because Neuvillette himself gave her an extra powerful one?
@@chaosomega623It has dragon fangs in the casing, and this is the first Vision Neuvillette bestowed, too.
Neuvillette's first vision granted since regaging all his powers, and it was to a child forced to be alone, pretending to be someone else in constant fear of being discovered for centuries. A Girl who finally now can be herself, and heal. She suffered for a people she didn't really rule, all the time fighting to find a way to save them, even fruitlessly.
A worthy vision.
i was so shocked hearing legit french, i almost cried of the song
I have been waiting for the French dub since Hoyo teased it. I guess this is closest we will get to a French dub.
in my head: o si je pouvais vivre dans l'eau
There are theories that said the one who gave Furina's her Hydro Vision was Neuvillette. Because he is basically become the fully fledge Hydro Dragon Sovereign, so he now most likely have complete control towards giving or not giving visions too. After all, he already got all of his stolen authorities from Celestia back to him through Focalors sacrifices. But of course this is just theories. Whether visions being given by Celestia themselves or it's simply happened.
EDIT: Oh, also Furina's Vision is somehow to have dragon fangs/claws shape in it.
Yeah, we've acquired more lore regarding the gnosis, but non about the visions yet.
The Seven Sovereigns are not responsible on giving away visions. Their elemental authorities are stolen from them to begin with. So how in all these centuries that vision exists?
Celestia is responsible for the distribution of visions
if i were right neuvillete did got his authority as dragon sovereign because of gnosis but since he gave the said gnosis to knave so he should be back to who he was before
Granting vision seems to me an automatic process Celestia nor the archons are aware of it seems. It may just be one of the "laws" of this world wherein were someone to show themselves worthy through any number of criteria, a vision would manifest and grant them power
So, basically, that’s Neuvillette’s gift to her, niice!
As we have read in his character stories and in Archon Quest, one of the Seven Thrones is gone now, so Celestia lost it’s power over Hydro and it’s visions. Neuvillette, on other side, has got his memories and some parts of lost knowledge. So he decided to continue “sharing his authority” to those who will show their will by himself only. That’s pretty interesting…
Be yourself Furina become the pure mortality
@@shanedoesyoutube8001cyno would love you bro😂
@@shanedoesyoutube8001Cyno not you again 😭
@@shanedoesyoutube8001cyno more (say no more)
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This proves that archons themselves don't give visions, it's Celestia who does it, and i believe to be a automatic prossece for them, once a person meets the check list, they are given a vision by Celestia of a specific element automatically, with Celestia not caring about the identity of the person the vision has been given to.
Visions are said to be a gift from the gods, every vision weilder has the potential to ascend to Celestia, making it very likely it's Celestia that is giving the visions, otherwise how exactly would someone be able to have the potential to ascend to Celestia thanks to a vision if it wasn't Celestia the one giving it?
is it celestia? isn't it weird they also gave visions to fatui who tried to take them down?
@@ahmedhabott5421read neuvillette new story voicelines archons give vision of their respective element but they don't know who got them.
Didn't Neuvi give her the vision tho? If you check Furina's vision it has fangs resembling those of a dragon; mind you, this is the only vision with this design so it was probably Neuvillette the one who gave it to her. Not to mention that he now holds more power than a real archon so giving someone a vision isn't that difficult.
No on this scrne neuv gives the cision
I mean- this was stated from Ei around over a year ago in her voice lines
I’m still shocked people believe it’s only the archons at this point
The fact the song was in French official emphasized the nation inspiration even more.
I thought it was pretty clear already xD
@hakugei-_-5800 although its mainly France (obviously) there's also some britian and Italy aspects I think
Furina was hard on her stance of no longer wishing to get back onto the stage as her eternal performance as the Hydro Archon took a horrendous toll on her, however to make sure all the work done to help this troupe's final play isn't gone to waste because of a sudden illness flare-up, she took the stage and filled in for the lead whose role was practically her life with the Little Oceanid's sacrifice at the end being Focalors who saved Fontaine in exchange for her life and her existence.
Willing to step onto the stage to see it through and bring out a genuine performance, she has moved forward with her life as a person and her willingness to do so has been seen and acknowledged by the gods for her will to return to the stage and her determination to speak her heart out and live by her rules.
One wonders how Hydro Visions are still possible with the Hydro Archon's existence removed from the Seven. This is the first Vision brought to being since Neuvillette had regained his authority over Hydro. Neuvillette seeing his power returned to him as a gift he treasures and shares and he would acknowledge those with great courage to defy odds. The existence of the Seven Archons were possible through the authority taken from the Seven Sovereigns, and as such Neuvillette can create Visions all the same if not better than an Archon could.
Furina: Sings
Celestia: Omg give her a vision the singing is so beautiful! 😭😭😭
Teppei: Gives his heart and soul into fighting for Inazuma
Celestia: …
I mean it's Neuvi giving her the vision after all, not Celestia so...
@@meowvy7195 but Neuvillete can’t give out visions though
@@c10gamer23 He actually can, after finished the AQ, he has some more conversation and dialogue about the truth regarding the vision. And it's also confirmed where visions before come from too
@@meowvy7195thats just a theory
@@meowvy7195
I still don't think neuvillette gives visions
"From that day on, whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift. Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person"
"Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself,"
-Neuvilette Character story (Visions)
All Archons do is give some of their power to visions but they do not know who gets the vision or why. Neuvillette follows this too but he does not know who gets them so I don't think he gave it to Furina
That's so amazing in of itself the fact she got her vision the moment she was true to herself while loving acting.
Perhaps it is 'gnosis' in auto mode that gives them, but Celestia gives them 'the frame' characteristic of the nation. That would explain the visions as the dragons' willingness to want to rebel, but the vigilance and keep it under control by Celestia.
Nope, Celestia lost all power of Hydro to Neuvillette after the destruction of the divine throne. Neuvillette commands everything under his element from nature to vision gifting
I prefer the idea that Neuvillette is the one to give her the vision. Mostly because i despise the idea that the gods from the heavens who sentenced her nation to ruin would simply give her this power.
The origins of visions are shady asf but you can’t deny that once your will and values are strong a vision will appear. Throughout the story Furina’s values and will was always influenced by others and she was insecure of herself and her identity as Fontaine’s “archon.”
Now that she’s finally free. She can perform as her truest self, she’s still a bit timid but her will has definitely changed and in doing so it gave her a vision.
You can kinda also interpret the vision as a symbol of her not going back to the way she was. That she’s a new freed person. She’s now become her own person and is finally true to herself.
After this and Neuvillette's Vision story, I think a Vision is an interpretation of a certain Elemental Authority. The OG Authority can be from Celestia & The Seven Archons, or Neuvillette after he decides to share bits of his too. After a wish/will resonates with an Authority, the will manifest the compatible fragment to the real world, and shape its powers to fit its destined user.
The holder of Elemental Authorities have a choice to share their powers, but to be vision holders, one has to get it themselves, using their wish or willpower.
Therefore, both Celestia and Neuvillette can grant a Vision now, and Furina is the first to get his variant.
should've been anemo coz she's finally free and has a dead friend lol
@@King_Jockeywho's the dead friend, am i forgetting something
I feel good. She no longer has to be Furina the Archon, who make bombastic grand performances. She can be Furina the Artist, free to write, sing, and act what she feels truly passionate about.
Imagine if furina received non hydro vision 🤣
Imagine she got anemo😂. Since we didnt get a short anemo boy I will only accept 2 short anemo girls
Imagine if Fandango boi actually got a Dendro Vision instead of an Anemo one. Because if Archons or the `next strongest individual in charge` were the ones in full control of Vision, then Venti either just stacked his vision on all the distribution chutes to be lazy, Other archons can `trade` visions to give different elements to other people or its just gremlins in celestia all`a`long just like the Corgi in Resident evil that are the true distributors of Visions and it could just be subliminal messaging that makes the `Archons` think they are the ones in control of it.@@alisalocke2001
Neuvilette : "That drunkard bard!"
@@sayugulnazar8704 theyre about to throw hands 🤣.
@@alisalocke2001 I mean dragon man likes ‘pure’ water and venti likes the wine, the proverbial gauntlet was already thrown, if the former treats and thing beyond pure water as a muddy drink.
Which would likely mean zhongli would smack’ for disrespecting osmanthus wine and ei would smite that dragon for calling dango milk a sludgie paste.
Then she proceeded to leave the city grounds to fight a 3 mil hp boss and fail, go home and then accidentally flood her apartment first thing with her vision, her song is beautiful as well...
Furina is love.
Furina is life
Furina is EVERYTHING
FURINA IS BEST GIRL
I love her story and character so much 😭
I was dissappointed that I wasn't playing with the real archon. But then again, I'm a Raiden Shogun haver and Furina has more personality than the puppet so I got over it. Also since Furina's curse got lifted does that mean she will age normally or her lifespan will be similar to Yae, Ganyu, etc?
Nope. Regular plain old human.
After 500 years I’d be tired too putting up with Bullcrap act too.
It’s only fair she gets to rest
@@jevs1555 Based on my understanding, she will age normally since her curse has been lifted due to hydro archon divine throne has been destroyed. Personally I think this is good news for Furina. She is only human after all. Immortality is curse for human.
@@chrisanonym3473finally someone understands it
@@ninjaman67Exactly…. Unless you’re Baizhu of course
I think one of my favorite parts in this is how absolutely ON POINT the timing was, waiting until the scene in the play where her character gets a vision and using that scene to give Furina her own! 💙
I love how she received her vision because on stage she rediscover her true self her destin self. This pulled heart strings😢
I can't remember where/if it's mentioned in-game, but I read that it's possible for Vision users to become gods.
So the girl who spent 500 years pretending to be a god, might actually end up becoming a real god.
It does actually…. I forgot where it was but it does said somewhere that Vision Bearers could ascend to Celestial
Furina is like V (from devil may cry 5)....she is the human part of Focalors just like how V is the human part of Vergil... Both suffered for a goal... Furina, to deceive the heavenly principles... and V, in order for Vergil to achieve more power...
The Song reminds me of the Weight of the World from Nier Automata
FULL BODY CHILLS
she's still a bit of a drama queen but she's way more relaxed now
The hydro archon role twisted her real pesonality
Before her act her personality was more meek and always full of doubt
I mean she played the part for hundreds of years every day. Thats some jared leto level method acting. Lol
@@mizukumecasko1216 yeahh, and innocent
There's this thing, probably a theory I don't recall correctly, but since it has been revealed how visions are granted(Celestia hears and grants, archons give a part of their power),that visions will empower Celestia once they have reached their ambition. And that using them comes with a price. I wonder does this apply to hydro now? Since neuvillette grants the visions, and is aware of it, it seems like he does it personally unlike the archons having Celestia involved with it? I also heard that Celestia is still involved with it but I just find it weird neuvillette would adhere to Celestia, aren't they like enemies lol, even focalors want to judge celestia
Thanks neuvillette for the vision to furina
Neuvillette's Vision viewpoint
Neuvillette does not need a Vision to manipulate the elements. However, there were some things he learned only after regaining his complete form:
Severely wounded in the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world. To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other.
*From that day on, whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift.* Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person. And when one so gifted completed their duty... the gift the gods would receive in return would be more abundant still.
Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself, as like unto the dragon-treasure hoards of old, awaiting valiant humans to come and claim them.
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The "Seven Overseers" gave Furina her Vision for the competition of Her duty.
Even in human form, Furina still gives her best for the many. Furina is still a Focalor in mindset and personality.
For Fontain's continued existence, Neuvillette may need to plan for the order of succession.
After the 500 years of pretending to be an Archon, and carrying the nation of Fontaine on her back, she deserved the Vision.
Furina has a really strong mental fortitude.
Can I ask something, once you obtain Archon Character (from character banner), there's a chance that vision won't glow because they are still Archon (Note: Appears in 1.1 event about the shooting stars, where vision can glow if the star is nearby but 2 Archon characters didn't glow), Does Furina will glow her vision?
Yes, furina vision will glow. The reason venti and zhongli vision doesn't glow because their vision is fake while furina vision is real
Yes it glows the visison like every other vision
It’s because venti and zhongli’s vision are fake. Probably just a glass orb or something. They have them to blend in with the people and not reveal their identity. Nahida and ei don’t have vision because they don’t need to hide their indentity. Furina’s vision is real
It glows
Didn’t anyone notice that Furina is missing her back long hair?
Yep, Focalors is gone and all that's left is Furina
I think visions have always been granted, not by the archons but by every dragon sovereign that was held kept inside their gnoses.
It's disappointing that Furina lost her mentally fatigued expression after she got her vision back - it was a nice way to show that even though she had her power back, she was still as vulnerable as before
Her power back ???
No , She had no powers in the first place other than the focalor's curse
@@Momoprincess2005 I meant vision, lol
I much prefer this human furina rather than the fake larping archon, also even though Neuvillete has taken over all of Fontaine's affairs, furina will always remain the hydro archon for me.
This made my heart hurt
I still can't believe that Furina is the only character that can go either Pnuema or Ousia
Furina the Hydro Archon
The God of Justice
The real you
I still wish the ppl of her country recognized her suffering
I really dont get the reason why ppl hate paimon for dragging her in.
She got her vision and she finds out that people still misses her onstage.
And I dont seem to see any reason why ppl of fontaine get angry on furina for prenteding as focalor because that what focalor wishes her to do.
furina was the "archon" who sacrificed so much for her people, the people of fontaine are flopping.
Celestia has been pretty damn quiet this whole time….
The best scene of giving a vision........
*Furina just got a REAL F*CKING VISION*
Pauleau : "wAIt, WHat abOUt DuLpHY?"
After doing the 4.2 archon quest, I have never been more mad at a whale before
I hope there will be full song. It's very beautiful.
People who got Hydro Vision are they who have high sense of protect what most important in their lives at all cost.is that.like furina?i think yes!
Since Neuvillette able to give visions now does that mean celestia themselves won't be able to do that anymore
Vision -celestia gift , not neuv , like other vision not gift from each archont
If I'm not wrong, Ei tells the traveler that the archons do not have the power to give visions.
@@segiraldovibut neuvillette is not an archon
No, dragon authority cant create vision only celestia do that
@@hunterprotv7780Nope. Neuvillette can now officially give the Hydro Vision as well. He just has the same criterion as he has emphasis on Human Will, same as Celestia.
Hmmm question. Does the Archons give the visions or does celestia gives them? After reading the comments I became confused as during Ei's Archon quest, Yae Miko stated that "people don't want your promises, they want your attention, your divine gaze" and in response Ei said "you mean visions?" Now this is where things get confusing the Hydro Archon no longer exists and Furina got her hydro vision after the time Focalors executed herself. This is why people claim that celestia is the one that grants visions to the people worthy of them. But if celestia is the one who grants them then that means that the conversation between Yae and Ei about the divine gaze/ visions does not make sense right?
That's a very good point, omg. Didn't remember that line! Would it be a plot hole or still to be confirmed where the visions really come from and who gives them?
@@izzyainsworth I'm pretty sure that due to the Hydro Archon no longer existing after she destroyed her own throne and life, Celestia probably no longer has any control over Hydro since it was given back to Hydro Dragon. That would be the same case if Ei died and destroyed her throne as well.
@@floridianliau35 Yae Miko is the temporary Archon for Inazuma when Ei was busy battling Raiden Shogun.
Ei has the order of succession plan.
Yae Miko's authority exceeds Tri-Commission e.g. Tenryou's censorship attempt was overridden by Yae Miko.
Ei has created Raiden Shogun's powerful elemental body, hence removing the need for Gnosis.
Yae Miko is aware of subspace science and technology.
@@valenrn8657 Funny that you mentioned how Yae Miko acted as the temporarily Archon for Inazuma. I sort of made an inside joke about Miko having Raiden's powers.
Neuvillette's statement with Visions
Neuvillette does not need a Vision to manipulate the elements. However, there were some things he learned only after regaining his complete form:
Severely wounded in the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world. To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other.
From that day on, *whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift.* Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person. And when one so gifted completed their duty... the gift the gods would receive in return would be more abundant still.
Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself, as like unto the dragon-treasure hoards of old, awaiting valiant humans to come and claim them.
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Both Seven Overseers and Neuvillette have recognized that Furina has completed her duty for the people of Fontaine. In her human form, She has done it again on a smaller scale i.e. refer to Furina's character story.
I admired how the heavenly principles gave her a vision
It's the Seven Overseers.
The divine throne for the hydro archon is gone so the person who gave her the vision was neuvillette
@@chrome1966 Nope. The Seven Overseers gave the Vision device and Neuvillette allocated a hydro fragment.
@@valenrn8657 u mean seven sovereigns?
@@valenrn8657 they were killed by the primordial one a very very long time ago though
Wait but archons don't have visions. Novelette made fun of the fact that archons of other lands brandish a fake vision to pass off as a vision user rather than have people know that they are archons.
This story quest (and Furina receiving a Vision) occur after the 4.2 Archon Quest. She wasn’t able to receive a Vision before that quest like every other Archon, but she can afterwards due to the events that occurred during it.
Furina isn't the Archon anymore, did you not go through the quest?
I like to think that this vision was given to Furina by Neuv rather than celestia. They are my ship!
I think so. U can see clearly there's a dragon-teeth-like at her vision.
So when are we getting German or Japanese songs for Mond and Inazuma.
Idk abt Sumeru because that place takes the entirety of SWANA, its either arabic or hindi
Theres alot of waltz. Thats German.
Woah
so she just sing and just receive the vision from the stage? im really concerned how that works, or am i not understand how one can get vision?
Don't be daft. She got the Vision because of her willpower in being silent for 500 years. The song is symbolic of her accepting her pain and renewing her spirit even after all the suffering. Her will didn't just reach Celestia, it spat in its face and took its lunch money. Absolutely worthy of a Vision.
Bruh every single chenchin video is with the end dub lol guess ill have to record the CN,JP and KR for the differences....
I've been wondering how the people of Fontaine is reacting to furina walking around in public
is she forgiven ? pitied ? people are angry at her? why does it say that Navia's townspeople glaring at her? did I miss something there?
For those not in Poisson they basically still like her as the Queen of the stage while those in Poisson don't like her still due to her inaction.
So, before this did she literally just have the gods ability to use hydro? And i thought hydro pullar was taken out, so shouldnt the visions be unable to be passed anymore?
No, Neuvilette becoming the Sovereign Dragon means he's the authority now, so he's the one giving out Visions.
If Furina's Vision is really directly from Neuvillete, then does that mean Celestia cannot claim Furina once her dreams and ambitions are complete? Does this mean she is not eligible for ascension to Celestia? Kind of a good news then. We still don't exactly know what happens to the ascended vision holders, and I somehow doubt Celestia would be kind to the human half of the god that destroyed the Hydro Throne and gave back the Authority they stole to the reincarnation of their ancient enemy.
Neuvilette giving out a Vision implies that Fontaine is still somewhat under Celestia's thrall so more work would need to be done for Furins to not become a cog in the machine
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 how did you go from N giving out a vision to Fontaine still being under celestia? The 4.2 archon quest shows us how Focalors shattered the divine hydro archon throne and effectively restored N's powers. She severed Hydro's ties to celestia
@castlescrumbled
That doesn't mean the natural order of Fontaine is severed from Celestia, though. Visions exist because Celestia ordained it as such, that implies Neuvilette still has to play ball on some aspects.
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 how do we know that for sure though? Fontaine’s ties to Celestia goes more in depth on the technicalities that we wont get any explanations for in the near future. To me when the divine throne for hydro gone, Neuvillette now just has full authority of Hydro (fact), where celestia no longer knows what goes on in Fontaine (my speculation) and N has set up his own way of giving visions (Character Story 5). He can sure be inspired by how celestia gives out visions (seeing great ambition in humans) but that doesn’t necessarily mean celestia still has control over Fontaine. I think celestia no longer has control of Fontaine in any way but that’s my own view and how I interpreted the quests/voicelines
@castlescrumbled
You really think if all contact was suddenly severed ), Celestia wouldn't retaliate? It's literally the natural order of things.
Can someone tell me what the show and her song conveyed? Is there some sort of a metaphor? I didn't get it...
It’s supposed to convey that she’s finished and tired of playing as the archon for 500 years. And as a result of her dedication received a hydro vision
The translation is not perfect
Gives me Nier vibes
can someone explain what happened to furina in this scene im confused
Furina acts in a play, and gets a vision
She played a role in the story of, "The little oceanid". An opera.
@@meisstupid what a lame way to get a vision
@@restart6358 when it come to furina, it's actually not
@@PrimordialGold yeah yeah whatever
Where are those people who keeps saying " ARCHONS GIVES VISIONS " ?
They do though
@@chrome1966 Did you forget that the Hydro Archon doesn't exist anymore? If your claims held light, it'd be the Hydro Sovereign which gave Furina the vision
I cry
Furina receives the vision she's only human. Not Focalors
Are we just funna ignore the fact this is a multi billion dollar company making animation errors like this lol 0:15
0:19 why do she walks like in dti😭🙏bad eng sorry😔💔
Who gave her a vision? Hydro archon has dead
The archons don't give out visions but i don't think celestia gave her the vision either because she deceived them for 500 years
some think neuvillette gave her the vision because he has complete control over the hydro element
Celestia have *always* been the ones giving out the Visions,it’s never been the Archons.
it's neuvilltte
His Vision story after you complete the archon quest
Vision
Neuvillette does not need a Vision to manipulate the elements. However, there were some things he learned only after regaining his complete form:Severely wounded in the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world. To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other.From that day on, whenever a person's wishes reached the heavens, the seven overseers of the material realm were duty-bound to grant them a gift. Though they might know nothing of who or what wish had stepped into the threshold of the sacred, the Seven Archons still had to impart a shattered shard of their mastery to that person. And when one so gifted completed their duty... the gift the gods would receive in return would be more abundant still.Neuvillette obeys no edict from the heavens, but he does acknowledge human will. So he too set aside parts of himself, as like unto the dragon-treasure hoards of old, awaiting valiant humans to come and claim them.* Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6
4:30 moment is more cuter in japanese dub www
So Furina is just a normal 5 star at this point?
Sadly it is. She is a human like us.
Since she got her vision from Neuvillette, is it makes her vision is special vision, right?
Yep. She’s currently the only hydro character (or character in general) to have a draconic vision.
Everyone always betrays Furina!!! Even the cast of the musical, even her family and closest friends! Everyone gives excuses instead of apologies. This is definitely the worst.
You're blowing it out of proportion, this ended well for her and she deserved the credit.
Sooo, the Furina we get is the human version with just a vision? Pls help
Yes, this is a TOTALLY HUMAN Furina with her own actual Vision...
@@louievelayo4100 awww....bummer...we got Raiden instead of Ei as well...
Why are you complaining, she's actually on the mend and not suffering
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 not complainin...just for further clarification from fans
@@taiteakopyte1504 you literally said it was a bummer
Paimon ruined everything when she said they're supposed to give her a fake vision. I want it to be TRUE and unplanned. why did they have to do this.
It was a part of script for "Little oceanid". Oceanid Clio in the end of her life gets a vision, but as soon as she disappears, it falls to the bottom of sea. It was mentioned in Furina's story
Dude, a true Vision was given to Furina on the play, what are you whining about
Wait so how did her powers work before?
She never had any powers besides the curse of long life.
When does this happen
So uh... Neuvillete blessed Furina with a vision?
Yep, although she doesn't know
So I'm still a little bit confused, so Furina was never the true hydro archon an was just pretending to be? Or she just was a vessel for the archon?
Or it was something like two personalities in one body?
Furina was a body proxy made by the hydro archon and also was a showman as being the hydro archon. To put it short focalors used furina as a plot device to fufill the prophecy and to ultimately give the gnosis back to Nuevillette and save the whole of Fontaine. Focalors intentions was to die from the very start to get back at Celestia. Both Focalors and furina are 2 separate people.
no furina was told to act as archon ,
Focalor wanted to be human, so as she ascended, she left her human form named it "Furina". Furina crying in the fountain of lucine isn't about the prophecy, its her pretending to be an archon for Focalors plan for 500 years, she's passed her breaking point
It's complicated but roughly this is the chronology:
- All citizens of Fontaine (except the original archon) are Oceanids
- The first hydro archon turns all oceanids into people with the power of the primordial sea. The detail is that when they touch the water of the primordial sea, they lose their human form and become oceanids again.
-Celestia, seeing that the archon broke the rules (archons are not allowed to create humans), decides to curse the hydro archon with the prophecy
- When Focalors becomes Archon she decides to end the prophecy by destroying the throne of the hydro archon (basically gathering enough power to be able to kill herself) and in this way return power to Neuvillete (who is the hydro dragon). She hoped that after 500 years Neuvillete would empathize with the people of Fontaine and by regaining her power he could finally turn them into complete humans.
- Obviously his plan was outside Celestia's rules so she needed to deceive her, so she created an oceanid and gave her her appearance (that oceanid was Furina) and entrusted her with the mission of pretending to be the hydro archon so that Focalors could gather power calmly and complete her plan. Furina didn't know nothing about Focalor's plan, The only thing she knew was if she was successful the citizens of Fontaine would never have to worry about the Prophecy again.
- Furina for 500 years suffered the burden of pretending to be the hydro archon knowing that she was lying to all the people of Fontaine, she was nothing more than a human and knew that the slightest mistake she made would be discovered by people which would mean that all the effort she had made until now would go to waste.
- In the end, Focalors' plan was a complete success and she managed to sacrifice herself to return power to Neu. By forgiving 'all the people of Fontaine' he turned them into 100% humans, so the water of the primordial sea could not it hurt them.
-No one outside of Neuvillete and the traveler know the true intentions of Focalors, which is why in Fontaine people see Furina as a fake and currently she lives as another citizen.
Focalors split her divinity and humanity
Furina is the humanity Focalors left behind
😢😢😢
Where is her hair
That true her hair
Long hair is fake
Sorry but Furina and Focalors' are more Archon's than other Archons themselves.
hmm after Reading all comment discussion about who give furina vision, iam have new question now. that really celestial or heavenly principle not notice the one throne is get destroy? i mean in act 5 before focalor death, she say when she die the thrones its get destroy too with her and the original power will be back to Sovereign.
after that conclusion we must not have question about who give the vision to furina cause now who control and have authority about hydro its only neuvillette but really that heavenly principle not notice about what happen in their throne? or cause the gnosis still exist they not notice?.
okay back from start now:
1. primordial one steal seven Sovereign power (focalors line in archon quest act 5)
2. heavenly principle or celestial give gnosis to archon for... (about "vision" in biodata neuvillete)
3. archon must give vision to people in teyvat cause its can make return 2× (neuvillette story line about "vision" in biodata Nevillete)
when skirk say gnosis is comes from the remaining decender 3, and focalors destroy the throne make the hydro authority back to Sovereign but celestial or heavenly principle not notice, its mean gnosis its celestial or heavenly principle only priority?
and one more questions.
maybe the archon can't give it directly, but can the archon not give visions to unwanted people?
cause furina have that "will" along time ago but she get vision is now.
for me its make sense furina get vision now cause when she have vision Hundred years ago its will make the focalors entire plan failed. but i relise xiao get a vision after 500? years too (i don't remember when xiao get vision but im certain it must be after Hundred years)
Even if they know that the hydro throne is gone, they don't know wtf happened, celestia wont be able to see whats happening on focalors hiding area
@@Holy.low-thinkyea archon can stop people from recieving visions, this happened with the raiden, did u forget already that she refused to give electro vision to anyone for more than a year
Furina cant recieve a vision at that time because shes acting as an archon and archons doesn't need visions which could reveal that furina is not an archon.
Why play the game when channels like these exist to tell me what happened in their video titles/thumbnail....so convenient
Because playing the game is a immer experience. Will you only satisfy with dirty movie if you have the option to get hands on? 😂
Cry
the JP VA is so good, if u compare to english version, especially the scene Furina was panic on the stage when they exposed her. super super cute
so the vision is not from the archons
Like Venti giving anemo vision zhongli Geo vision etc...
So the vision is actually from Celestia
Furina's vision is different. It has prongs at the edges. Celestia chooses who gets the vision but the elemental powers come from the archons. So this vision particular is out of Celestia's jurisdiction, theorized that this vision is given by Neuvilette
Well that was a disappointing way to get her vision 😕
what is a better way then?
For sure Celestia hated Fontaine for making fake people. But not underestimating Furinas suffering.
Y’all Raiden confirmed Celestia gives visions jeez
Raiden doesn’t know any better about Visions because she’s an Archon and Archons have limited say on Visions
Neuvillette confirmed that he has free reign over who he decides to bestow a vision upon and he did so for Furina. Celestia has no reason to give her one especially because of what she did to them and her vision has fangs further confirming that it was Neuvillette
They did Furina dirty in the Archon quest. She suffered so much only to be hated by the people she wants to save in the end, I wish Hoyoverse will make her the next hydro archon in the future because she definitely deserves it.
I think u missed the point if u think furina wants to be rewarded with godhood. Shes tired of that she wants to be a normal person. And there is no more hydro archon anymore its impossible
@@yahheh5498Hater detected, opinion rejected
@@SerendipitytheSeraphim but what is saying is a fact
@@SerendipitytheSeraphim ?????? Not really but ok 😭
@@SerendipitytheSeraphimexcuse me? how were they being a hater?
more like you not being able to understand why it wouldn't be fitting for her to be an archon after all of that