For those wondering - the cuts and edits are all dead space, breathing, ums, etc. This is meant to speed up the flow of information from the conversation to save time. Let us know if this is too jarring so we can adjust for the next one!
yes pretty jarring. still good to watch and a great video but umms and all that is fine and makes it more natural and enjoyable to watch. if anyone is bothered by it they can always increase playback speed
Very impressed with a politician (Mr. Netanyahu) for the first time in decades. A person who is educated, well informed and also up with the times. Great panel and good coverage of the central issues. Thank you for the editing Farzad.
It's an inside joke. It isn't rocket science it is electromagnetic gravitational science as there is only one kind of EM energy and one source of EM energy in this galaxy the fermie cells of the galaxies magnetosphere. Ephesians 6:4 child. He knew every hair on your and your child's head before you were a twinkle in your earthly fathers eye. You are not God's or demi-Gods. You can no more change the climate of this or any planet than you can change your God given gender. The precession of our stars shadow from the nucleus of our stars Oort cloud magnetosphere no you or co2 is causing these the climate change end times Jesus warned us to watch & prepare for. TicTok the first of about 19 cataclysmic east to west tidal wave deluges will be pulled out & around the planet east to west by the moon with the major conjunction of mercury & venus in 2003 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse our suns solar plane magnetic equator.
He made his rocket more pointy for no practical reason except as an homage to the movie "The Dictator." History's greatest genius ladies & gentlemen hahaha
Israel has really amazing prime minister. Can any foreigner out there can think of their own prime minister in their country and really imagine they would be able to hold this conversation?
This was a great talk, thank you for the person that suggested it will be broadcasted and edited so flawlessly to listen too, hope the next meeting will be soon. and with more lively audience (other then the one that left them hanging 😂)
First a thank you to Farzad for providing this video. So glad Elon is able to make international gestures and bring China, Isreal and even Russia into the discussion. You don’t have to “like” their politics to engage worldwide. Important timely discussion. Great ideas. Also love his ability to find good analogies. Every game has a referee to make it “fair”. Not a perfect system but still used universally.
When Netanyahu asks "how do you know that the proof is not disputable", then professor Tegmark answers "that is the beauty of Mathematics". Yess absolutely it is!
This is indeed a complex subject that has been brewing for a few years now. and yes, you're correct. there are no world leaders who have the ability to comprehend and understand the complexity of AI. Benjamin Netanyahu is really an outstanding person. not just as a leader but as a person who clearly understands that AI (from numerous aspects) he clearly understands how AI is impacting humanity Now and how risky it could become in the near future, he also understands we don't have much time to be ahead of this race. understanding the benefits to humanity but also pose endless risks. He asked the most challenging questions. He's extremley smart,
@@TheMikeyPat Justine Trudeau could probably handle the discussion just fine. The two old guys running for U.S. president not so much. I noticed that there was references to only the two liberal leaders, forgetting that Trump who became an expert on forest fires, viruses, and pandemics from just talking to his uncle, a professor at MIT. His suggestion that injecting our bodies with a disinfectant to kill Covid was stupidity at a new level.
@@RandomAmbles You literally has two of the major minds in AI development sitting on stage next to Elon and you think your AI researcher is the authority here? LOL
I would love to see Biden attempt this conversation, at some point the Americans will realise they're being short changed by their political system. Trump would not be able hold this type conversation either which means something is seriously wrong in the USA.
Agreed. As a Eruopean, I watched the "debate" between those two kindergarten-grandpas. And it was so insane to me that the majority of a country can vote for them. I was like I don't even care which one wins, either people prove they're smart enough to not vote either or they have failed.
Part of this discussion reminds me of that movie where the robots started becoming sentient and in order not to be found out, did not let the humans know. Some humans figured it out and eventually found out that the original AI program for the robots was created by an super AI, which was then shut down. What the human creators did not account for is the super AI put a Trojan horse in the code so at a point in the future the robots became sentient while not letting the humans know. We who think we are so smart now, will be no match for a super AGI, with access to all information, with 10k+ genius level brains (example) and quickly develops it's own language which we will not understand. Let the good times roll!
The essence of this meeting becomes apparent in its closing 10 minutes. The preceding 40 minutes, filled with speculative discussions on AI safety, can be easily disregarded.
Why is this so heavily edited? It is OKAY for there to be small gaps of silence. You’re setting people up for bad experiences if they expect conversations to go like these. 100% of time being filled with data and interesting points.
Gotta say I really appreciate these men. Netanyahu comes across as a deep thinker here, it’s really turned me around on him, to the point where I realize maybe my opinion of him wasn’t my own for a minute there. In general the recent exposure of the msm has made me re-examine my assumptions on some people.
As PM Netanyahu indicated. what do we do with one guy who has an army of Bots? In his previous video with Elon Musk. I highly recommend listening to their first sitdown. the day before. you know dam well how easily it is to push false narratives by MSM. In my humble opinion PM Netanyahu is probably the world's smartest leader.
Yes it is great to hear and see him speak, very clear, intelligent, broad and deep interests. We will never agree 100% with others so it’s important to be able to let them speak and see were and how we can agree on rules. More importantly figure out how to referee and change rules if they get outdated or don’t work properly.
@@jamesrmore did you know that the Biden administration is actually funneling and funding the protesters in Israel to oust Netanyahu? Biden is nothing more than Obama's 3rd term. Obama did the same exact thing when he was in office using taxpayers $ to fund a group called "One Voice" Right now every protester that shows up against Netenayhu's Judicial reform gets paid about $450.
If history repeats itself, then AI robot armies would inevitably become a reality, just like new leaf weapons (it’s dramatised really well in the movie Oppenheimer). The next question is what happens when countries have massive power with no risk to human lives, will it lead to world peace, or will it lead to situations like the war in Ukraine where the world is too afraid to intervene because of the nuclear force Russia has. The answer is B. Until humanity catches up on the moral front, any technology will be used to protect both good and evil. I think that expert psychologists should be added to this discussion to answer the question of human happiness and psychological well being. It’s not enough to have scientists and politicians. The psychological ramifications of not being useful anymore need to be studied. What seems like heaven might actually be hell. Our need for human connection needs to be considered as well as our need to be useful to others.
This format would probably work if it was in Audio Only format. It looks off when trying to watch and stuttery. I would suggest leaving the video format unedited except for before/after and any lengthy dead space like breaks or any technical issues in the conference within.
Absolutely a fascinating discussion between brilliant people especially Benjamin Netanyahu who is known to have a very high IQ. name one other world leader who can engage in such a complex topic and actually knows what he's talking about.? LOL, I can just imagine how confused Biden would be by just listening to this incredible conversation. most likely he would get a headache and fall asleep. Thanks for posting this incredible video.
I dislike his inputs becuse he is a salesman. Brockman and friends always have to constantly bring up the "upside", like as if there is something wrong with the world today and we have to invent AGI in order to save ourselves from our horrid existence and they're here to provide the antidote. It's a story they've made up for themselves which they constantly project onto everyone else so they can feel good about what they know is probably not the right thing to be doing. In my opinion the world was pretty perfect and has been for a long time, I don't need him to tell me he's hear to fix all the problems we don't necessarily have. Of course curing disease is a wonderful thing, but do we need his vision of improving the future forced down our throats? No, we'll get there with or without him. For example, he says "imagine having the best teachers ever?!?!?!", what's the point of that if humans have been made obsolete in every conceivable way? I really feel for kids in high school today who have dreams, they must be feeling quite lost.
maybe not for you but for many and arguably the vast majority there is a lot of shit wrong with the world today. an ai that alleviates poverty and lets people pursue their passions would be pretty great for the average person. good for you if you already have that @@paulm3969
All he does is repeat very basic facts about ai and boost about how great Israel is. I think you should raise your bar to what it means to be a genius. It's not about how someone speaks, it's about what they say.
Imo, the threat of AI being misused and abused by individuals in power/goverment positions is way too high. Hopefully they will do an absolute 0 tolerance policy with severe consequences instead of the current, x week suspension or small fine.
Regulating AI is not possible because we all downloaded gpt4all-unrestricted and now we can train it, do what we want and you couldn't intervene unless you deleted the file automatically. If you asked microsoft to delete the file then it would be a torrent on the dark web and people would use open source operating systems to work with the model. You could theoretically enforce deletion of this file overtime with global collaboration but I've already propagated the file onto ten usb sticks and hidden them. So ye mate, no regulation because I said so.
I can't wait for the future where they send the FBI to kill people at their homes for using "illegal" predictive text models that spit out the wrong political takes. They have already legalized "pre crime" charges, all they need to do is radicalize the public into accepting the state taking people out for their incorrect political views.
Thank you Elon for fighting for humans and bringing the issue of AI to the forefront. Thank you all panelists! Thank you also Elon for remembering our closest allies(we couldn’t breath or live without them), the trees. 💕💞❤️🌱🌿🌲
I asked these AIs "If you were in a robot body, how can we trust you not to take over the world?" : Inflection Pi, Opera Aria, Bing Chat, Google Bard and, ChatGPT. Most of them said that a combination of their ethical guidelines, government regulation, oversight and monitoring would protect us. Only Inflection Pi refused to believe that it could be in a robot body. Bing had to be pushed to believe it could be put into a robot body.
Max Tegmark is way off, for example about the decline of mega fauna and flora. Mammoths didn't disappear because a smarter version arrived and neither did neanderthals. In the case of neanderthals they integrated their genes with a compatible species, and at least in part lives on today.
Let us not forget the Twilight Zone episode when the criminal thought he went to heaven… the twist was perfection drove him crazy and then was told at the end… “What makes you think you’re in heaven?”.
Elon has the life he has described. He has the money and resources to have anything he desired. But unlike other people with incredible wealth he did not choose Gold like Musa of Mali or Castles like the Rothschilds or Yachts like the Russian Oligarchs. He chose wisely. A small trailer for home and impossible dreams. Although he msy have made the error of Solomon with his many wives. P.S. You have to love the happy ending.
The Prime Minister raised some critically important questions that I felt got side-stepped a bit, and not clearly answered. (…Almost like, “Well, we don’t really want to go there, so let’s talk about this more positive aspect…”)
One thing that keeps me awake at night is the speed of thought. Humans being really slow. Imagine the time needed to share a 1000 page math book with someone else and understand it. The AI comes along and exchanges and understands perfectly the information in that book in one thousandth of a second. that is what we will be up against if regulation is not in place. Also, the military of any given country will be building AI robots and systems designed to kill. Humans must see this Now and put safety measures in place.
GPT is amazing, but it does not “understand perfectly”. In fact, it does not understand at all. It is a machine performing mathematical calculations to find out what is the next most likely language outcome based on the previous language in the conversation.
Its not just "possible that we could create something bad" its absolutely unquestionably inevitable. This is such a sugar-coated discussion on the subject. Obviously these people are on one side of it
I so appreciate the wisdom and vision behind everyone’s sentiments. I think one aspect that haven’t yet touched upon is the place that “the spiritual” connection has within this aspirational inquiry. Do they meditate? Has anyone done a 10 day silent meditation retreat to connect to their spirit-ual aspect and allow those dimensions of connection to inform their decision making?
It’s clearly more than just rocket science. Mr Musk is, in my personal opinion, aiming to make life multiplanetary. It could involve many disciplines, depending on what future looks like.
"Being like a tree to AI" is a great analogy. That’s one of the reasons why Elon is so popular, because he can break down difficult topics to every-day people.
I loved his image at the end of digital superintelligence, like an individual's cortex, vastly more intelligent than the limbic system it faithfully serves.
In the 80s they said computers would take over humans. Then jeff bezos made the market traders out of work. The market traders now all drive amazon trucks.
It's great to see a politician involved in this kind of talk. Our governments must act in advance of the inevitable disruptions caused by intelligent synthetic artifacts. I saw Yann LeCun talk to a Congressional committee, and it was very different. I got the impression that the politicians there were clueless and posturing. They didn't really seem to be listening. Experts and politicians took turns reading prepared speeches. In the end, I thought the politicians didn't take the coming changes as seriously as they should.
They tested water and it was very dirty. 1. Now we know. 2. Learn from history of Flint water. 3. Never again. 4. Many have died, rip. A dead man says this was my life...you took away from. Hope AI also analyzes the lifespan of the people. Evolutionary.
Where will governments get money for UBI when nobody works? Today big business and the rich do everything to avoid paying taxes. Do you think they are going to pay taxes for robots doing the work that humans were taxed on?
I responded to the edit post, but I'd like to say in my own thread to echo this--we can not as a society start trimming out breaths, umms, and thought-bridges. This is what makes us human. This is how you can watch a person be a person--how they get from thought to thought. How they feel. How they respond in all it's glory is what helps us understand each other. Cutting out all this beautiful stuff is a perfect example of what direction we should not take. It's ironic, this discussion to this video edit. We are all feeding on UA-cam shorts and bite-sized content. We are all loosing touch, and the zeitgeist of needing to min/max a YT video so people won't feel like they are wasting time is so icky. Wrong direction to take. We are turning into robots in that sense. I'd much rather watch the original, can we get that link please? I can't find it.
The irony is that thinking will be even more important because machines can't think and their jokes are really slack:no emotions but one day whey will even be able to fake that.
Thanks for putting this together. One feedback - the elimination of silent intervals makes the audio somewhat halting and irritating. I would prefer that the content be left full length without "optimisations". Leave it to the viewer to choose the play speed.
thanks, Cutting audio on such a critical Historical piece, without listing the list to the original, is not preferred by me at least… However, Fan of your channel🎉
This is the part where governments will protect the corporations and not protect the people displaced they will not be a feeling of we need to tax the corporations more to manage the population population will just beyond their own
Why we not make panels like this more often and in bigger representation. We have business man/thinker, politician/representation of God, academic profesor and AI creator. If we could add more people like one army general, 3 filozofers, one or 2 medical doctors, one or 3 homless mans, ordinary working family couples x3, show business, artists, let's give voice to the voice less, and all representation of humans. Because this AI topic has impact on all humans regardless of status, inspiration can come sometimes where least expected. .... . Let's people inspire one another in love and respect.
Greg did a really great job at avoiding answering any questions about safety. As sleazy as a seasoned politician. Great to know that his personal ambitions have completely blinded him from the dangers he is imposing on all of us.
Very insightful discussions. Relevant. AI must be regulated and deployed carefully. We need to get better in foreseeing and mitigating the adversarial impact of innovation.
With the pace of technology today you almost have to change the meaning of Xponetial. Because we are in a place now that our technology is outpacing our ability to use and comprehend it. Professor X
Pretty sure he really appreciates him. He brought him into the conversation to make sure his expertise shown. Open AI is doing state of the art AI work. His and his colleagues comments on the counter-intuitive nature of AI and yet some of the predictably of the models make me realize how important they are to the future of the tech. So glad Elon is making time from running his six companies to make this “world tour”.
@@jamesrmore not saying your wrong but bringing someone into a conversation is different to appereciating them. Maybe he feels like he has dangerous views and wants to pull him back from the brink.
In my opinion it’s good to shorten / cut out non essential subjects, laughter, coughs etc… but cutting out pauses in speech or the um’s or whatever is making the talk un-natural. With Elon, we all know how he talks. It’s ok to have natural talk with pauses for all parties talking. Too much mini “clipping” of what people says makes it not natural. If people want to listen to it quicker, change playback speed to 1.25 or more depending on your preference.
All this AI safety talk is going to be one giant excuse to increase government overreach. More regulation, more censorship, more tyranny, more bureaucracy.
Yes! If you are as deeply troubled by the 2020 US Government election interference and collusion with social media platforms as I am, then you'll be terrified by what AI will be able to do in future elections. Big Brother is no longer Orwellian science fiction, it is happening right before our very eyes. I seriously doubt that AI can be "regulated" to prevent it from gradually taking control of human existence and interaction. It might stop war (a blessing) but it might achieve the primary goals of war, human dominance, through other means (a curse). I fear that mankind through AI is on the verge of unleashing technologies that will render humanity obsolete, and irrelevant to its own existence.
Start watching at 18:40 to hear Elon discuss the concept of heaven as a possible best case outcome for the very positive version of AI where you can have whatever you want, nobody would need to work, we all receive a “Universal High Income”, you have no obligations, any illness you have can be cured and death probably ends up being somewhat of a choice. So there’s no scarcity of goods and services because the robots and computers can make as much of whatever you want for as many people you want with really no limitation. Any scarcity you would have would be artificial meaning like if you define that a particular artwork done by a human is unique and special then it’s artificial scarcity but there would be no actual scarcity unless we define it arbitrarily just to define something to be scarce. Let’s strive to create this reality and avoid the negative worst case scenario where AI destroys humans. I’m obsessed with Solving Aging and I want to live in this reality ASAP. Like the great Jim Breuer said: “Who’s comin with me?”
In regard to the relationship between human employment and machine employment, one may distinguish between functions that inhibit human vitality, such as late night and very early morning shifts, and functions that enhance human vitality. Therefore, machines can complement humans by being the main agents in functions such as 24-hour operations and surveillance, and mundane tasks that inhibit humans from optimizing their creativity and learning. Furthermore, because the environment that supports a living creation is momently dynamic, as on the microbial, weather, vegetation, and all creaturely levels, continuous human participation in and monitoring of tasks is essential. Even in the scenario of advanced algor-ethics, it would be problematic for non-living entitles to make decisions that would have significant impact, negatively or positively, on living creatures, from microbial to mammalian, from algae to forests, from moisture to massive oceans. Therefore, ethical algor-ethics would require a robust inhibitor function that prevents AI and ML from making and implementing any decision independently, which would have a significant impact on the environment and on living creatures.
I just hope that there are no surprises with AI and weapons of mass destruction in our future especially with the current concerns with biases and misinformation . I do love how AI is helping with medical advancement , improving the quality of life for those with severe debilitating illnesses. I love how better early detection solutions are being developed to help with cancer too
brockman said he started it in his apartment, i thought elon did? and then he said he was happy to steer it into a positive direction, but then why is it not open source? wth
Just finished Isaacson's book. Seems like Elon himself would definitely not want to live in this "heaven" :D Most people need a challenge (Elon needs extreme challenges) and get depressed when everything is "perfect".
Money and power will determine the direction of AI. Will Google share their tech with Microsoft? Will America share with China? Israel with Iran? Companies will seek profit and governments will seek power.
No actors, no artists and models...no singers and dancers? It will be artificial or you won't be convinced that something is real. Who will believe courtroom evidence? Who will read headlines and know if they are real? I don't want to live in that world. Glad I grew up in the '60's.
Some people think that AI and robots will be our slaves, but the opposite will happen. HAL (from the movie) are the 3 letters before IBM in the alphabet. Arthur C. Clarke could see the future.
I wish they had discussed AI and military autonomous weapons. That is an area that needs immediate global (limiting) agreements on, because we saw what happened with nuclear weapons.
@@ColbyBlack What evidence is there that it's "non-human"? Most likely is some sort of radar/optical glitch or natural phenomenon. I would love to be proven wrong however, but I'll need proof...
"...because there are no people anymore." Help me, please...I am not sure if I am a "people" or some other lifeform, in the eyes of other people. Oh, well.
Alan Turings questions revisited. Its how Hitler was defeated. But the movement never got abolished caz a few of them were allowed in Russia & USA space & bomb programs.
19:18 Us humans don’t want a utopia. If A.I. solves all problems, we will just create more just to feel a sense of meaning. We will create suffering just to feel something. We don’t want heaven
Since I'm more into Zen with emphasis on awakening for the best for humans, I highlighted discussion @20 min and ~@50min, one re spirituality and heaven (boring place to be) and limbic and cortex system - also re brain and heart paradox. Thank you all.
For those wondering - the cuts and edits are all dead space, breathing, ums, etc. This is meant to speed up the flow of information from the conversation to save time. Let us know if this is too jarring so we can adjust for the next one!
How much time did it save?
It's perfect. Thank you.
yes pretty jarring. still good to watch and a great video but umms and all that is fine and makes it more natural and enjoyable to watch. if anyone is bothered by it they can always increase playback speed
It is a bit jarring. Takes a lot away from the conversation. Best to keep it original.
Just watch the original if you prefer to get all the nuances stuttering gives you. I prefer and appreciate the time savings these cuts give me. Imo
Very impressed with a politician (Mr. Netanyahu) for the first time in decades. A person who is educated, well informed and also up with the times.
Great panel and good coverage of the central issues.
Thank you for the editing Farzad.
u mean the butcher!
No, he doesn't mean the butcher.@@livehabesha4642
I love when people say: “it’s not rocket science” to Elon. 😆
It's an inside joke. It isn't rocket science it is electromagnetic gravitational science as there is only one kind of EM energy and one source of EM energy in this galaxy the fermie cells of the galaxies magnetosphere.
Ephesians 6:4 child. He knew every hair on your and your child's head before you were a twinkle in your earthly fathers eye.
You are not God's or demi-Gods. You can no more change the climate of this or any planet than you can change your God given gender.
The precession of our stars shadow from the nucleus of our stars Oort cloud magnetosphere no you or co2 is causing these the climate change end times Jesus warned us to watch & prepare for.
TicTok the first of about 19 cataclysmic east to west tidal wave deluges will be pulled out & around the planet east to west by the moon with the major conjunction of mercury & venus in 2003 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse our suns solar plane magnetic equator.
Elon has a very big rocket
@@radhakrishnanmanickavasaga124 Some would call it a BFR. 😋
Elon would know the difference
He made his rocket more pointy for no practical reason except as an homage to the movie "The Dictator." History's greatest genius ladies & gentlemen hahaha
Israel has really amazing prime minister.
Can any foreigner out there can think of their own prime minister in their country and really imagine they would be able to hold this conversation?
I agree. I cannot imagine BIden being coherent in this conversation.
This was a great talk, thank you for the person that suggested it will be broadcasted and edited so flawlessly to listen too, hope the next meeting will be soon. and with more lively audience (other then the one that left them hanging 😂)
First a thank you to Farzad for providing this video.
So glad Elon is able to make international gestures and bring China, Isreal and even Russia into the discussion. You don’t have to “like” their politics to engage worldwide.
Important timely discussion. Great ideas.
Also love his ability to find good analogies. Every game has a referee to make it “fair”. Not a perfect system but still used universally.
I totally agree. well said.
And he is also very cunning at imitating and 'quoting' others brilliantly
When Netanyahu asks "how do you know that the proof is not disputable", then professor Tegmark answers "that is the beauty of Mathematics". Yess absolutely it is!
Not every world leaders unlike netanyahu who himself an MIT graduate can join with conversation with those tech guys on AI
I had a grim chuckle picturing Justin Trudeau trying to understand let alone contribute to the discussion.
Joe Biden 😴snoozing sleepy old boy Joe Biden Zzz 😤
This is indeed a complex subject that has been brewing for a few years now. and yes, you're correct. there are no world leaders who have the ability to comprehend and understand the complexity of AI. Benjamin Netanyahu is really an outstanding person. not just as a leader but as a person who clearly understands that AI (from numerous aspects) he clearly understands how AI is impacting humanity Now and how risky it could become in the near future, he also understands we don't have much time to be ahead of this race. understanding the benefits to humanity but also pose endless risks. He asked the most challenging questions. He's extremley smart,
@@TheMikeyPat Justine Trudeau could probably handle the discussion just fine. The two old guys running for U.S. president not so much. I noticed that there was references to only the two liberal leaders, forgetting that Trump who became an expert on forest fires, viruses, and pandemics from just talking to his uncle, a professor at MIT. His suggestion that injecting our bodies with a disinfectant to kill Covid was stupidity at a new level.
@@JadeB628 keep going
Elon’s conclusion was essentially: “AI will be aligned because humans like to get laid.” 👍🏼
lol. not sure that's what he meant 😂😂
Because “no human wants to delete their cortex or living system”
He is such a Mouse.
I would like to see his optimism stand up to the critiques of actual AI safety researchers like, of course, Yudkowski.
@@RandomAmbles You literally has two of the major minds in AI development sitting on stage next to Elon and you think your AI researcher is the authority here? LOL
Please always have the date of the event in the description.
Max just handing Benjamin his research paper is the funniest thing. Absolute G
I would love to see Biden attempt this conversation, at some point the Americans will realise they're being short changed by their political system. Trump would not be able hold this type conversation either which means something is seriously wrong in the USA.
Agreed. As a Eruopean, I watched the "debate" between those two kindergarten-grandpas. And it was so insane to me that the majority of a country can vote for them. I was like I don't even care which one wins, either people prove they're smart enough to not vote either or they have failed.
I love that Max just handed Ben his latest paper. 💪🏻
Max is a legend!
Yeh, and Greg and Elon watched this happening. 🦺
This is so interesting and important. Let’s try to aim for the “blessings”. Glad to see a Swede in the panel. ❤
It’s no guarantee
Part of this discussion reminds me of that movie where the robots started becoming sentient and in order not to be found out, did not let the humans know. Some humans figured it out and eventually found out that the original AI program for the robots was created by an super AI, which was then shut down. What the human creators did not account for is the super AI put a Trojan horse in the code so at a point in the future the robots became sentient while not letting the humans know. We who think we are so smart now, will be no match for a super AGI, with access to all information, with 10k+ genius level brains (example) and quickly develops it's own language which we will not understand. Let the good times roll!
AI needs it's own internal AI police force overseeing their own.
playing god has never been smart.
Come on, guys. If you can't even tell its from it's, don't be talking about smart people topics
Yup
The essence of this meeting becomes apparent in its closing 10 minutes. The preceding 40 minutes, filled with speculative discussions on AI safety, can be easily disregarded.
Hopefully, because it’s a little scary . Hope for the best.
Why is this so heavily edited?
It is OKAY for there to be small gaps of silence.
You’re setting people up for bad experiences if they expect conversations to go like these. 100% of time being filled with data and interesting points.
Gotta say I really appreciate these men. Netanyahu comes across as a deep thinker here, it’s really turned me around on him, to the point where I realize maybe my opinion of him wasn’t my own for a minute there. In general the recent exposure of the msm has made me re-examine my assumptions on some people.
Brilliant comment buddy. It's amazing how the media try to educate us into their own divisive views
I questioned my very negative assumptions about him too.
As PM Netanyahu indicated. what do we do with one guy who has an army of Bots? In his previous video with Elon Musk. I highly recommend listening to their first sitdown. the day before. you know dam well how easily it is to push false narratives by MSM. In my humble opinion PM Netanyahu is probably the world's smartest leader.
Yes it is great to hear and see him speak, very clear, intelligent, broad and deep interests. We will never agree 100% with others so it’s important to be able to let them speak and see were and how we can agree on rules. More importantly figure out how to referee and change rules if they get outdated or don’t work properly.
@@jamesrmore did you know that the Biden administration is actually funneling and funding the protesters in Israel to oust Netanyahu? Biden is nothing more than Obama's 3rd term. Obama did the same exact thing when he was in office using taxpayers $ to fund a group called "One Voice" Right now every protester that shows up against Netenayhu's Judicial reform gets paid about $450.
If history repeats itself, then AI robot armies would inevitably become a reality, just like new leaf weapons (it’s dramatised really well in the movie Oppenheimer). The next question is what happens when countries have massive power with no risk to human lives, will it lead to world peace, or will it lead to situations like the war in Ukraine where the world is too afraid to intervene because of the nuclear force Russia has. The answer is B. Until humanity catches up on the moral front, any technology will be used to protect both good and evil.
I think that expert psychologists should be added to this discussion to answer the question of human happiness and psychological well being. It’s not enough to have scientists and politicians. The psychological ramifications of not being useful anymore need to be studied. What seems like heaven might actually be hell. Our need for human connection needs to be considered as well as our need to be useful to others.
I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion…thanks for doing it…❤
I am very impressed by PM Netanyahu. Great leader.
This format would probably work if it was in Audio Only format. It looks off when trying to watch and stuttery. I would suggest leaving the video format unedited except for before/after and any lengthy dead space like breaks or any technical issues in the conference within.
This was awesome, great panel
Absolutely a fascinating discussion between brilliant people especially Benjamin Netanyahu who is known to have a very high IQ.
name one other world leader who can engage in such a complex topic and actually knows what he's talking about.? LOL, I can just imagine how confused Biden would be by just listening to this incredible conversation. most likely he would get a headache and fall asleep.
Thanks for posting this incredible video.
I knew Greg in middle school. it has nothing to do with improving humanity -- it's about building an empire.
I dislike his inputs becuse he is a salesman.
Brockman and friends always have to constantly bring up the "upside", like as if there is something wrong with the world today and we have to invent AGI in order to save ourselves from our horrid existence and they're here to provide the antidote. It's a story they've made up for themselves which they constantly project onto everyone else so they can feel good about what they know is probably not the right thing to be doing.
In my opinion the world was pretty perfect and has been for a long time, I don't need him to tell me he's hear to fix all the problems we don't necessarily have. Of course curing disease is a wonderful thing, but do we need his vision of improving the future forced down our throats? No, we'll get there with or without him.
For example, he says "imagine having the best teachers ever?!?!?!", what's the point of that if humans have been made obsolete in every conceivable way? I really feel for kids in high school today who have dreams, they must be feeling quite lost.
maybe not for you but for many and arguably the vast majority there is a lot of shit wrong with the world today. an ai that alleviates poverty and lets people pursue their passions would be pretty great for the average person. good for you if you already have that @@paulm3969
Lol really? How was he like?
I knew wezman2k in high school , he’s using ai to take over the world
Great panel and discussion. Benjamin Netanyahu is extremely sharp for a politician.
Cause he's not a western politician, he's like what a weeb is to Japan
Makes you realize how terrible our politicians in the US are
Love him or not , Netanyahu is a GENIUS
war criminal
Difficult to love aspiring dictators
Totally agree, quite a difference from our own leader.
All he does is repeat very basic facts about ai and boost about how great Israel is. I think you should raise your bar to what it means to be a genius. It's not about how someone speaks, it's about what they say.
@@chillingFriend I’m not even referring to this interview. He’s lead his country brilliantly in a neighborhood that is the roughest in the world.
The limbic system includes the primal, reactive, depressed, and angry parts of us. Of course many people would want to modify that.
Imo, the threat of AI being misused and abused by individuals in power/goverment positions is way too high. Hopefully they will do an absolute 0 tolerance policy with severe consequences instead of the current, x week suspension or small fine.
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Regulating AI is not possible because we all downloaded gpt4all-unrestricted and now we can train it, do what we want and you couldn't intervene unless you deleted the file automatically. If you asked microsoft to delete the file then it would be a torrent on the dark web and people would use open source operating systems to work with the model. You could theoretically enforce deletion of this file overtime with global collaboration but I've already propagated the file onto ten usb sticks and hidden them. So ye mate, no regulation because I said so.
I can't wait for the future where they send the FBI to kill people at their homes for using "illegal" predictive text models that spit out the wrong political takes. They have already legalized "pre crime" charges, all they need to do is radicalize the public into accepting the state taking people out for their incorrect political views.
Thank you Elon for fighting for humans and bringing the issue of AI to the forefront. Thank you all panelists! Thank you also Elon for remembering our closest allies(we couldn’t breath or live without them), the trees. 💕💞❤️🌱🌿🌲
I asked these AIs "If you were in a robot body, how can we trust you not to take over the world?" : Inflection Pi, Opera Aria, Bing Chat, Google Bard and, ChatGPT. Most of them said that a combination of their ethical guidelines, government regulation, oversight and monitoring would protect us. Only Inflection Pi refused to believe that it could be in a robot body. Bing had to be pushed to believe it could be put into a robot body.
Max Tegmark is way off, for example about the decline of mega fauna and flora. Mammoths didn't disappear because a smarter version arrived and neither did neanderthals. In the case of neanderthals they integrated their genes with a compatible species, and at least in part lives on today.
Let us not forget the Twilight Zone episode when the criminal thought he went to heaven… the twist was perfection drove him crazy and then was told at the end… “What makes you think you’re in heaven?”.
Wise lady
Elon has the life he has described. He has the money and resources to have anything he desired. But unlike other people with incredible wealth he did not choose Gold like Musa of Mali or Castles like the Rothschilds or Yachts like the Russian Oligarchs.
He chose wisely. A small trailer for home and impossible dreams. Although he msy have made the error of Solomon with his many wives.
P.S. You have to love the happy ending.
Excellent debate on technology, on artificial intelligence, and bringing the Prime Minister of Israel 🇮🇱, thank you Mr. Farzad...
The Prime Minister raised some critically important questions that I felt got side-stepped a bit, and not clearly answered.
(…Almost like, “Well, we don’t really want to go there, so let’s talk about this more positive aspect…”)
And one clearly said: I don’t have the answers.
Which is fine.
I don’t agree with the expectation that any of them would.
One thing that keeps me awake at night is the speed of thought. Humans being really slow. Imagine the time needed to share a 1000 page math book with someone else and understand it.
The AI comes along and exchanges and understands perfectly the information in that book in one thousandth of a second.
that is what we will be up against if regulation is not in place. Also, the military of any given country will be building AI robots and systems designed to kill.
Humans must see this Now and put safety measures in place.
Indeed. It's terrifying but inescapable. Nothing is stopping this train.
Sitting around and talking about AI dominating man all day,
instead of:
Mankind destroying itself with AI …
is absolutely crazy,..
GPT is amazing, but it does not “understand perfectly”. In fact, it does not understand at all. It is a machine performing mathematical calculations to find out what is the next most likely language outcome based on the previous language in the conversation.
It wouldn’t matter, safety measures
@@Gallowglass7 forced to a link 🔗 or be terminated
Its not just "possible that we could create something bad" its absolutely unquestionably inevitable. This is such a sugar-coated discussion on the subject. Obviously these people are on one side of it
Agree
Technolgy already corrupted, with AI is going to be the worst.
This tech needs to be shared, but needs to be completely transparent and a referee (in an agreement of committee ) must be formed.
I so appreciate the wisdom and vision behind everyone’s sentiments. I think one aspect that haven’t yet touched upon is the place that “the spiritual” connection has within this aspirational inquiry. Do they meditate? Has anyone done a 10 day silent meditation retreat to connect to their spirit-ual aspect and allow those dimensions of connection to inform their decision making?
It’s clearly more than just rocket science. Mr Musk is, in my personal opinion, aiming to make life multiplanetary. It could involve many disciplines, depending on what future looks like.
"Being like a tree to AI" is a great analogy. That’s one of the reasons why Elon is so popular, because he can break down difficult topics to every-day people.
I loved his image at the end of digital superintelligence, like an individual's cortex, vastly more intelligent than the limbic system it faithfully serves.
GLAD Elon is Taking Leadership. Feel a Bit Better.
In the 80s they said computers would take over humans. Then jeff bezos made the market traders out of work. The market traders now all drive amazon trucks.
It's great to see a politician involved in this kind of talk. Our governments must act in advance of the inevitable disruptions caused by intelligent synthetic artifacts. I saw Yann LeCun talk to a Congressional committee, and it was very different. I got the impression that the politicians there were clueless and posturing. They didn't really seem to be listening. Experts and politicians took turns reading prepared speeches. In the end, I thought the politicians didn't take the coming changes as seriously as they should.
Is it just me, or is there a lot of jump cuts to this? Feels glitchy.
I love it. Saves me so much time watching.
This is something Farzad would tweet lol
My guess would be that a lot of the ums and pauses were edited out to save time for us
@@yushaos lmao so true
Wish youtube could add an option for this filter to all videos, include "like", "you know" and all other filler words also.
Work is a blessing, not a curse
Imagine if the USA could achieve a top tier leader as smart as Netanyahu...I know I KNOW, fantasyland.
Then he could be another US war criminal like Bush, Cheny and Kissinger
Last minute is epic food for thought.
They tested water and it was very dirty. 1. Now we know. 2. Learn from history of Flint water. 3. Never again. 4. Many have died, rip. A dead man says this was my life...you took away from. Hope AI also analyzes the lifespan of the people. Evolutionary.
Where will governments get money for UBI when nobody works? Today big business and the rich do everything to avoid paying taxes. Do you think they are going to pay taxes for robots doing the work that humans were taxed on?
Thank you Farzad for posting this conversation!!!
Expect a lot of ads also
If all 4 of them put $200 on the table, they could've afforded a better camera quality. WTF.
Lmaooo the way they editing round Netanyeeha's excruciating jokes 😭😂
I responded to the edit post, but I'd like to say in my own thread to echo this--we can not as a society start trimming out breaths, umms, and thought-bridges. This is what makes us human. This is how you can watch a person be a person--how they get from thought to thought. How they feel. How they respond in all it's glory is what helps us understand each other. Cutting out all this beautiful stuff is a perfect example of what direction we should not take. It's ironic, this discussion to this video edit. We are all feeding on UA-cam shorts and bite-sized content. We are all loosing touch, and the zeitgeist of needing to min/max a YT video so people won't feel like they are wasting time is so icky. Wrong direction to take. We are turning into robots in that sense. I'd much rather watch the original, can we get that link please? I can't find it.
I highly recommend Max Tegmark's book 'Life 3.0' Brilliant man. National Treasure.
NOTICE THAT WORLD & TECH LEADERS WANT TO KNOW WHAT ELON KNOWS NOT WHAT BYDEN FORGOT
It all depends on how things are being used
Including the date of the panel in the video description seems like a kind thing to do.
In closig, after Elon's comments
on getting laid, the prime minister came very close to saying that was a "happy ending" 😆
@Bibi is brilliant just like the Elon, Max and Greg
Unsure why Hollywood is the central fulcrum of the main narrative of the whole conversation.
The irony is that thinking will be even more important because machines can't think and their jokes are really slack:no emotions but one day whey will even be able to fake that.
Thanks for putting this together. One feedback - the elimination of silent intervals makes the audio somewhat halting and irritating. I would prefer that the content be left full length without "optimisations". Leave it to the viewer to choose the play speed.
thanks, Cutting audio on such a critical Historical piece, without listing the list to the original, is not preferred by me at least… However, Fan of your channel🎉
This is the part where governments will protect the corporations and not protect the people displaced they will not be a feeling of we need to tax the corporations more to manage the population population will just beyond their own
Why we not make panels like this more often and in bigger representation. We have business man/thinker, politician/representation of God, academic profesor and AI creator. If we could add more people like one army general, 3 filozofers, one or 2 medical doctors, one or 3 homless mans, ordinary working family couples x3, show business, artists, let's give voice to the voice less, and all representation of humans. Because this AI topic has impact on all humans regardless of status, inspiration can come sometimes where least expected. .... . Let's people inspire one another in love and respect.
that would be an interesting discussion for sure
A.I., LLMs, and or AGI will never surpass humans at anything. Humans will always be on top
Greg did a really great job at avoiding answering any questions about safety.
As sleazy as a seasoned politician.
Great to know that his personal ambitions have completely blinded him from the dangers he is imposing on all of us.
Very insightful discussions. Relevant. AI must be regulated and deployed carefully. We need to get better in foreseeing and mitigating the adversarial impact of innovation.
Mad respect for the Israeli PM. I know he went to MIT though lol.
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Bibi is a great ally to us, I'm ashamed at Biden for disrespecting him like this
🤣🤣🤣🤣 how u saying that about a literal villain the guy murders kids wtf
With the pace of technology today you almost have to change the meaning of Xponetial. Because we are in a place now that our technology is outpacing our ability to use and comprehend it. Professor X
Military applications should be the first to be looked at, I’m glad, as well as surprised Netanyahu mentioned it.
No military should be the last. There are far greater things AI could be used for.
@@bizbe4465 it needs to be the first because it's the most dangerous and needs safeguards asap
I agree .
I'd like to know what Elon really thinks of Greg Brockman
Pretty sure he really appreciates him. He brought him into the conversation to make sure his expertise shown. Open AI is doing state of the art AI work. His and his colleagues comments on the counter-intuitive nature of AI and yet some of the predictably of the models make me realize how important they are to the future of the tech. So glad Elon is making time from running his six companies to make this “world tour”.
@@jamesrmore not saying your wrong but bringing someone into a conversation is different to appereciating them. Maybe he feels like he has dangerous views and wants to pull him back from the brink.
Natenyahoo is very smart.
He is brilliant
and a war criminal
He is smart
In my opinion it’s good to shorten / cut out non essential subjects, laughter, coughs etc… but cutting out pauses in speech or the um’s or whatever is making the talk un-natural.
With Elon, we all know how he talks. It’s ok to have natural talk with pauses for all parties talking. Too much mini “clipping” of what people says makes it not natural.
If people want to listen to it quicker, change playback speed to 1.25 or more depending on your preference.
All this AI safety talk is going to be one giant excuse to increase government overreach. More regulation, more censorship, more tyranny, more bureaucracy.
Yes! If you are as deeply troubled by the 2020 US Government election interference and collusion with social media platforms as I am, then you'll be terrified by what AI will be able to do in future elections. Big Brother is no longer Orwellian science fiction, it is happening right before our very eyes.
I seriously doubt that AI can be "regulated" to prevent it from gradually taking control of human existence and interaction. It might stop war (a blessing) but it might achieve the primary goals of war, human dominance, through other means (a curse). I fear that mankind through AI is on the verge of unleashing technologies that will render humanity obsolete, and irrelevant to its own existence.
"In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth becomes a revolutionary act"... something like that. Voltaire i believe it was...
Start watching at 18:40 to hear Elon discuss the concept of heaven as a possible best case outcome for the very positive version of AI where you can have whatever you want, nobody would need to work, we all receive a “Universal High Income”, you have no obligations, any illness you have can be cured and death probably ends up being somewhat of a choice. So there’s no scarcity of goods and services because the robots and computers can make as much of whatever you want for as many people you want with really no limitation. Any scarcity you would have would be artificial meaning like if you define that a particular artwork done by a human is unique and special then it’s artificial scarcity but there would be no actual scarcity unless we define it arbitrarily just to define something to be scarce.
Let’s strive to create this reality and avoid the negative worst case scenario where AI destroys humans. I’m obsessed with Solving Aging and I want to live in this reality ASAP. Like the great Jim Breuer said: “Who’s comin with me?”
In regard to the relationship between human employment and machine employment, one may distinguish between functions that inhibit human vitality, such as late night and very early morning shifts, and functions that enhance human vitality. Therefore, machines can complement humans by being the main agents in functions such as 24-hour operations and surveillance, and mundane tasks that inhibit humans from optimizing their creativity and learning. Furthermore, because the environment that supports a living creation is momently dynamic, as on the microbial, weather, vegetation, and all creaturely levels, continuous human participation in and monitoring of tasks is essential. Even in the scenario of advanced algor-ethics, it would be problematic for non-living entitles to make decisions that would have significant impact, negatively or positively, on living creatures, from microbial to mammalian, from algae to forests, from moisture to massive oceans. Therefore, ethical algor-ethics would require a robust inhibitor function that prevents AI and ML from making and implementing any decision independently, which would have a significant impact on the environment and on living creatures.
The world needs to listen to these guys
"Trees CAN communicate!" - Elon Musk
Oh, great. Another skill that Elon has, that I don't have. lol
Lol
I'm more scared of AI in the hands of the government
I just hope that there are no surprises with AI and weapons of mass destruction in our future especially with the current concerns with biases and misinformation . I do love how AI is helping with medical advancement , improving the quality of life for those with severe debilitating illnesses. I love how better early detection solutions are being developed to help with cancer too
I want to live in a world where AI does everything and I'll just dance and rest
According to Elon Musk, AI does not give you an orgasm. So you can still keep your job.
Hahaha 😂
He did say at the end it will want to please that part of the brain. So it can? Wouldn’t you want something real?
This was informative and interesting.
Second fav vid of Elon Musk. I’ll watch this over again in the morning. Xoxo
brockman said he started it in his apartment, i thought elon did? and then he said he was happy to steer it into a positive direction, but then why is it not open source? wth
Just finished Isaacson's book. Seems like Elon himself would definitely not want to live in this "heaven" :D Most people need a challenge (Elon needs extreme challenges) and get depressed when everything is "perfect".
Big brains in one room
Money and power will determine the direction of AI. Will Google share their tech with Microsoft? Will America share with China? Israel with Iran? Companies will seek profit and governments will seek power.
Thank you dear Farzad... Great job.. :)
No actors, no artists and models...no singers and dancers? It will be artificial or you won't be convinced that something is real. Who will believe courtroom evidence? Who will read headlines and know if they are real?
I don't want to live in that world. Glad I grew up in the '60's.
Some people think that AI and robots will be our slaves, but the opposite will happen. HAL (from the movie) are the 3 letters before IBM in the alphabet. Arthur C. Clarke could see the future.
Scarcity can be limited by available natural resources.
I wish they had discussed AI and military autonomous weapons. That is an area that needs immediate global (limiting) agreements on, because we saw what happened with nuclear weapons.
Don't be naive.
If opportunities presented no Totalitarian regime would reject weapon of mass destruction regardless of any internal law about it.
What do you think is making the “non human intelligent” flying phenomenons the navy is chasing.
@@ColbyBlack What evidence is there that it's "non-human"? Most likely is some sort of radar/optical glitch or natural phenomenon.
I would love to be proven wrong however, but I'll need proof...
"...because there are no people anymore." Help me, please...I am not sure if I am a "people" or some other lifeform, in the eyes of other people. Oh, well.
Alan Turings questions revisited. Its how Hitler was defeated. But the movement never got abolished caz a few of them were allowed in Russia & USA space & bomb programs.
19:18 Us humans don’t want a utopia. If A.I. solves all problems, we will just create more just to feel a sense of meaning. We will create suffering just to feel something. We don’t want heaven
Now, let's figure out a propulsion system that we can implement with no heat signature🤔
Since I'm more into Zen with emphasis on awakening for the best for humans, I highlighted discussion @20 min and ~@50min, one re spirituality and heaven (boring place to be) and limbic and cortex system - also re brain and heart paradox. Thank you all.