@@jaseallenson316 there you are, we were looking for you, you're the last precog that got out of the tank and definitely knows what would have happened in a fictional situation. Considering that Clark was called for two touch fouls you don't think Hannah would be called for a 6-foot legs spread hip check shoulder plow screen that had a consequential effect on a play? Thank God you are around to prevent this future crime infection dispelling from happening from happening from happening from happening
@@destinypirate if you think the ncaa was gonna pass up the opportunity to get her in the finals, you are beyond naive. It would be a moronic business move for them not to. Go back to sleep now.
Yeah, i see what you are saying....Just one thing, how did they get 100s of refs, organizers, management to all be in on the fix and to kieep it all 'quiet'? On a related note: Dawn Staley called for a review of the uSC loss to Iowa last year. Turned out Iowa go the short end of missed calls. Then Dawn Staley said to keep the results quiet in order to ''pprogect black refs.
I think the people who complain by saying, "you can't make a call at that time. Let the players decide the game" forget the fact that the players DID decide it. Aaliyah did not even really need to do a pick for the play to work, yet she did and cost a potential game winner from happening.
@maxpower247 I agree. Paige had Gabbie beat by a considerable margin. I also thought trying for a 3 when down only 1 was a strange choice for the play as well.
@TheDMsofDisability Paige had Gabbie beat because of the illegal screen. I believe they tried to run the play Geno had drawn up during the timeout. They didn't execute it cleanly, and it cost them the chance to win.
Gino's hissy fit should have been at himself for being so dumb to call for his slowest laterally moving player to set a screen on Iowa's fastest laterally moving player. But of course gino, staley, and these types can't really coach they're just used to babysitting five stars who go out and crown themselves every year. That's why Staley had such an unsportsmanlike meltdown after Iowa beat them last year and had to try to paint iOS coach, who should have gotten Coach of the Year 2 years in a row, by framing her as racist by saying "we're not monkeys"
@07venHundred yeah it was pretty funny seeing Gino get angry at the press conference because they have taken the torch from him as the leader of recruitment collusion and giving it to Don Staley, but he knows there's nothing he can say out loud since he's a white man
The refs really let the players decide for the game. Unfortunately UCONN decided to do an obvious illegal screen, fail to box out and get a reb off of missed ft, turned their back in an inbounder. So.. I don't know pretty fair to me. Also why tf did they plan to shoot 3 when down 1?!
No one can tell me that Caitlin didn't mean to bounce that ball off the rim on her FT. She can put that ball anywhere she wants, and she had 2 teammates right there to get the rebound.
People don’t understand… yes it was a foul. Was is a completely obvious foul? Not really, but it was one. The reason I’m complaining is because they let both teams do this the whole game when they were screening and they didn’t call anything. But now all of the sudden when it’s coming down to one possession for the game they decide to call it? That’s my complaint. If you’re going to call it fine. But be consistent with it by setting the tone early.
@jjohnson3203 Exactly my point. Watching the game I know for a fact that UConn committed more than 2 illegal screens and Iowa committed more than 0 illegal screens. So the refs seemed to be unsure on what they wanted to let go and what they wanted to let continue. I’m just saying you need to be clear on when you will call it. I still think it was a desperate move from Edwards because she should’ve noticed she was too late, but the refs were inconsistent.
I think the move of Paige Bueckers around the Aaliyah Edwards was not the presetting pattern during the timeout. I feel Aaliyah Edwards was in little a hurry to set a screen to tackle the gabbie’s fight-though for Paige. That’s why Aaliyah was a little bit late to set a clean screen and she was inevitably moving toward gabbie one more time after the screen set. As you said so, I wonder if Paige Bueckers was more aggressive to try penetrating directly into the rim to get a pass from Nika. Only 2pts deficit and it could’ve get a chance of foul from Iowa.
The "controversy" is a media concoction. Refs missed multiple calls, on both sides, during game. Check the tape. The moving screen call was a no-brainer. Check the tape.
At half time i said that UConn didn't put Iowa away, that's going to haunt them. It was a foul, but the argument is you don't want the ref's deciding the game. It was the right call, but i understand how UConn is really upset.
Iowa won fair and square. I find it interesting that you showed the end of Paige missing the 3 shot. Looks like Edwards was moving forward and runs right over Gabbie Marshall settings that screen. Nika Muhl and Gabbie Marshall put the clamps on both star players. Team win. The foul call was a little anticlimactic after such a great game by both teams. Go Hawkeyes!
@sholapeadeyemi4940 What BS calls? If you're talking about the illegal screen, get over it. It was a foul. This fixation on that one call detracts from one of the best basketball games I've seen all year. Great defense, great coaching, and great team basketball by both teams. I blame SVP and ESPN for blowing this out of proportion. Don't be a hater Be a fan of the game
@@Roadkill515 was not talking about the screen fam. They called a foul when one Iowa player wasn’t touched while driving. Multiple push offs from cc. It’s difficult to have 8 available players and the refs were putting nika, kk and Aaliyah into foul trouble when they didn’t touch Iowa
No. Even Paige said they weren't robbed. They had their chances. They had a 10 point lead in the second quarter. They could have won this game before it got to this point.
It's an easy call....foul. And most people are overlooking the clearest pieces of evidence. First, basketball players are only entitled to "their space". Second, a complementary notion is the concept of "verticality". Go to the moment of contact between the screener and defender and pause the video. I want you to notice the screener's legs and feet. If there's contact because the screener's feet are outside the width of the shoulders, that's a foul. Second, check if the screener's legs are balanced. If the legs aren't balanced then the player's frame is leaning outside of her space...so the player isn't vertical either. The UConn player violates both of these concepts. By contrast, check out Caitlin Clark's "The Shot" against Indiana where the screener (#25 Monica Cziano) sets not only one but two strong, textbook screens on the game-winning shot.
Right call, if Bueckers made the 3 you guys would not be having this conversation in Iowa's favor. You didnt like who won because PB was supposed to win the narrative, but dont worry you can all cheer after South Carolina wins by 20...
The biggest difference in the game was at the foul line, period. UConn 3/4 Iowa10/14 This is a huge discrepancy, according to this stat line Iowa never really fouled.....BS!
Let’s be real UCONN fans. Did yall want to get beat down twice in the National Championship game by the original USC ? The USC of the 803. You were beaten convincingly earlier this season by them and Cordoso didn’t even play.
Aaliyah Edwards should have been defending Stuelke from the inside. Ice Brady couldnt do anything. Uconn must return to recruiting dominate post players.
This is so incorrect. When UConn was up 12 the refs tarting calling the game completely different because they didn’t want UConn to extend their lead. UConn also had the momentum on both sides of the basketball. The refs called fouls on Nika, KK, and Aaliyah consecutively this completely changed UConn’s aggressiveness and allowed Iowa to put points up front the line while the clock was stopped. In basketball momentum is everything and UConn never got the momentum they had when they pushed it out to a 12 point lead for the rest of the game. The refs purposely kept Iowa attached. So that’s why the last foul call on Edwards is telling. Like Geno said Iowa set questionable screens throughout the game too and fouled UConn multiple times with no call. Just rewatch the game, why did the whistle change when Iowa started losing as opposed to when it was back and forth at the beginning. They clearly wanted Caitlin in the title game. There’s no other explanation. I do agree Paige should of been way more aggressive offensively in the fourth quarter but it’s a testament to the mistake UConn has made playing her so much out of position all season. At times she loses the awareness that’s she’s the point guard because of how much she has had to share ball handeling duties with KK and Nika. Paige like Hannah, Juju, and Caitlin need the ball in their hands to be at their complete yes Paige is good off ball but she isn’t a shooting guard. Azzi Fudd for instance is better off ball than she is with the ball in her hands which is why Geno paired them together, their game’s compliment each other like Steph’s and Klay’s. Paige to me is most confident when her ability to set up her teammates can be most utilized. She’s also more difficult to defend when you don’t know if she’s going to pass or score. Geno should of moved her completely back to point guard once the tournament started. Nika and KK’s inability throughout the season to consistently score off ball gave Geno no choice. Her numbers being played so out of position imo speaks to how good she really is. I don’t think Juju, Caitlin, or Hannah could play as many positions as Paige and be as effective as she’s been. Maybe juju. But definitely not Caitlin or Hannah. This game also exposed Caitlinnit really having much of an offensive bag outside of the stepback threes and layups. Caitlin had no midrange game, no post up game, no floaters, or fadeaways. Which is why it’s laughable people don’t think WNBA teams will be able to defend her. All Geno did was force her right the entire game. Same thing he did with Juju by forcing her left. That’s why Paige not being aggressive is troubling. Paige is pretty good at everything so defenses can’t really take anything away from her. Paige stops herself. I will say, I thought UConn and Iowa were just playing for the opportunity to lose to SC. They just have more players than everyone else right now. UConn being a possession or two away from the national championship and in my opinion eye test wise they were still the more talented team outta them and Iowa once they get healthy and add Sarah Strong. I don’t see them not in the title game next year. Azzi and Paige both tho have to be healthy finally at the same time. If they are with everything else around them UConn is gonna be tough. Definitely preseason Top 2,
I am convinced that the NCAA wanted Caitlin in the championship game and the referees were part of getting them there. The only way UConn could have won that game would have been to totally dominate Iowa. With a short bench, UConn just didn't have the player resources on the court to maintain the pressure they had in the first quarter.
Take off the tinfoil hat. Of course NCAA hoped for SC vs Iowa. The ratings are going to be record setting. If the refs were trying to ensure an Iowa win they would have called a much tighter game from the start and they didn't.
Letter of the law it was the right call. Spirit of the game and precedent, I have never seen that call in 40 years of watching basketball on any level. That was absolute hot garbage. Almost as bad for Iowa. Especially Hannah Stulke. Had the performance of her life in Tournament play and you barely heard her name being mentioned. On Hail Marys, box outs on key possessions, and inbounds plays there are TONS of "rules" being stretched. You play through it, unless someone falls or there's BLOOD. Illegal screens are just part of important inbounds plays, hence the term "Fight through the screen". No need to fight if the guy is completely stationary. Also, Michael Jordan did an egregious hold on Larry Nance right before The Shot. Do I even have to break down the ramifications of THAT offensive foul call on MJ?
A good screen the ball handler runs right next to the shoulder of the screener so the defender has to go inside or "fight through" the screen. No moving is necessary to set a good screen. Edwards jumped into the screen which is a foul and was leaning which is also a foul.
You don't know college basketball Catlin Clark was using that screen the whole tournament with Hannah doing it and it wasn't called Clown. And if you think calling bogus foul and the reff not calling that takle foul on Paige or that charging foul against Catlin then you are not in reality bro. Or you no nothing about sports EVERY FREAKING PLAY MATTER! Because if those plays calls resulted in 4-5 or6 points for Ucon they will have won the game so EVERYTHING matters.
Since when is committing a play changing foul and being called for it being cheated
The question is, will it have been called of the roles were reversed. We all know, there is no way it wouldve been.
@@jaseallenson316 there you are, we were looking for you, you're the last precog that got out of the tank and definitely knows what would have happened in a fictional situation. Considering that Clark was called for two touch fouls you don't think Hannah would be called for a 6-foot legs spread hip check shoulder plow screen that had a consequential effect on a play? Thank God you are around to prevent this future crime infection dispelling from happening from happening from happening from happening
@@destinypirate if you think the ncaa was gonna pass up the opportunity to get her in the finals, you are beyond naive. It would be a moronic business move for them not to. Go back to sleep now.
Yeah, i see what you are saying....Just one thing, how did they get 100s of refs, organizers, management to all be in on the fix and to kieep it all 'quiet'?
On a related note: Dawn Staley called for a review of the uSC loss to Iowa last year. Turned out Iowa go the short end of missed calls. Then Dawn Staley said to keep the results quiet in order to ''pprogect black refs.
I think the people who complain by saying, "you can't make a call at that time. Let the players decide the game" forget the fact that the players DID decide it. Aaliyah did not even really need to do a pick for the play to work, yet she did and cost a potential game winner from happening.
It’s like she didn’t trust Paige to get open. It was very strange…
@maxpower247 I agree. Paige had Gabbie beat by a considerable margin.
I also thought trying for a 3 when down only 1 was a strange choice for the play as well.
@TheDMsofDisability Paige had Gabbie beat because of the illegal screen. I believe they tried to run the play Geno had drawn up during the timeout. They didn't execute it cleanly, and it cost them the chance to win.
She raised her elbow at the right time. Unfortunately it was in front the ref. Thank god Geno’s hissy fit didn’t swing it.
Gino's hissy fit should have been at himself for being so dumb to call for his slowest laterally moving player to set a screen on Iowa's fastest laterally moving player. But of course gino, staley, and these types can't really coach they're just used to babysitting five stars who go out and crown themselves every year. That's why Staley had such an unsportsmanlike meltdown after Iowa beat them last year and had to try to paint iOS coach, who should have gotten Coach of the Year 2 years in a row, by framing her as racist by saying "we're not monkeys"
@07venHundred yeah it was pretty funny seeing Gino get angry at the press conference because they have taken the torch from him as the leader of recruitment collusion and giving it to Don Staley, but he knows there's nothing he can say out loud since he's a white man
If it was Football it would be called offensive interference it was so blatant.
The refs really let the players decide for the game. Unfortunately UCONN decided to do an obvious illegal screen, fail to box out and get a reb off of missed ft, turned their back in an inbounder. So.. I don't know pretty fair to me. Also why tf did they plan to shoot 3 when down 1?!
No one can tell me that Caitlin didn't mean to bounce that ball off the rim on her FT. She can put that ball anywhere she wants, and she had 2 teammates right there to get the rebound.
People don’t understand… yes it was a foul. Was is a completely obvious foul? Not really, but it was one. The reason I’m complaining is because they let both teams do this the whole game when they were screening and they didn’t call anything. But now all of the sudden when it’s coming down to one possession for the game they decide to call it? That’s my complaint. If you’re going to call it fine. But be consistent with it by setting the tone early.
The refs actually called 2 illegal screens earlier on UConn.
Agreed. Just like baseball...all the batters and pitchers want is for balls and strikes to be called consistently throughout the game.
@jjohnson3203 Exactly my point. Watching the game I know for a fact that UConn committed more than 2 illegal screens and Iowa committed more than 0 illegal screens. So the refs seemed to be unsure on what they wanted to let go and what they wanted to let continue. I’m just saying you need to be clear on when you will call it. I still think it was a desperate move from Edwards because she should’ve noticed she was too late, but the refs were inconsistent.
@@matthewreese3907 Iowa was called for one as well.
UConn missed too many shots earlier… otherwise it should have been this. It’s not determined by the refs, it was determined way earlier in the game
Iowa's defense is underrated and battle tested now
I think the move of Paige Bueckers around the Aaliyah Edwards was not the presetting pattern during the timeout.
I feel Aaliyah Edwards was in little a hurry to set a screen to tackle the gabbie’s fight-though for Paige.
That’s why Aaliyah was a little bit late to set a clean screen and she was inevitably moving toward gabbie one more time after the screen set.
As you said so, I wonder if Paige Bueckers was more aggressive to try penetrating directly into the rim to get a pass from Nika. Only 2pts deficit and it could’ve get a chance of foul from Iowa.
The "controversy" is a media concoction. Refs missed multiple calls, on both sides, during game. Check the tape. The moving screen call was a no-brainer. Check the tape.
At half time i said that UConn didn't put Iowa away, that's going to haunt them. It was a foul, but the argument is you don't want the ref's deciding the game. It was the right call, but i understand how UConn is really upset.
Agree. Iowa is the last team you want to let back in the game.
Love both teams, fair and square. These type of calls happen every game. Remember humans play the game, humans officiating what do you expect?
Iowa won fair and square. I find it interesting that you showed the end of Paige missing the 3 shot. Looks like Edwards was moving forward and runs right over Gabbie Marshall settings that screen.
Nika Muhl and Gabbie Marshall put the clamps on both star players.
Team win. The foul call was a little anticlimactic after such a great game by both teams.
Go Hawkeyes!
Fair and square is wild after they were putting an eight player team into foul trouble with bullshit calls.
@sholapeadeyemi4940 What BS calls? If you're talking about the illegal screen, get over it. It was a foul. This fixation on that one call detracts from one of the best basketball games I've seen all year. Great defense, great coaching, and great team basketball by both teams. I blame SVP and ESPN for blowing this out of proportion.
Don't be a hater
Be a fan of the game
@@Roadkill515 was not talking about the screen fam. They called a foul when one Iowa player wasn’t touched while driving. Multiple push offs from cc. It’s difficult to have 8 available players and the refs were putting nika, kk and Aaliyah into foul trouble when they didn’t touch Iowa
Yh UConn lost. No excuses. Ref is a part of the game and it happens but y’all shouldn’t act as if it was totally fair.
@@Roadkill515 and please watch the game again if you think that screen was the only debatable call. No hate just facts. Go huskies
The best team won and not on one foul late in the game they just outplayed UCONN.
However you look at it, there was indeed a foul on the elbow forwarding to Gabbie Marshall.
This was a moving screen. She looks like a linebacker blocking for a quarterback. This was a good call.
Nope she definitely got herself out there to try and screen her, not only that but there was calls early against Iowa that were bad calls.
No. Even Paige said they weren't robbed. They had their chances. They had a 10 point lead in the second quarter. They could have won this game before it got to this point.
If that is a let go play, Iowa will say that there should be an illegal screen, regardless if Paige makes the shot in front of Hannah.
It's an easy call....foul. And most people are overlooking the clearest pieces of evidence. First, basketball players are only entitled to "their space". Second, a complementary notion is the concept of "verticality". Go to the moment of contact between the screener and defender and pause the video. I want you to notice the screener's legs and feet. If there's contact because the screener's feet are outside the width of the shoulders, that's a foul. Second, check if the screener's legs are balanced. If the legs aren't balanced then the player's frame is leaning outside of her space...so the player isn't vertical either. The UConn player violates both of these concepts. By contrast, check out Caitlin Clark's "The Shot" against Indiana where the screener (#25 Monica Cziano) sets not only one but two strong, textbook screens on the game-winning shot.
Thank you for posting the truth.
Right call, if Bueckers made the 3 you guys would not be having this conversation in Iowa's favor. You didnt like who won because PB was supposed to win the narrative, but dont worry you can all cheer after South Carolina wins by 20...
The biggest difference in the game was at the foul line, period. UConn 3/4 Iowa10/14 This is a huge discrepancy, according to this stat line Iowa never really fouled.....BS!
Let’s be real UCONN fans. Did yall want to get beat down twice in the National Championship game by the original USC ? The USC of the 803. You were beaten convincingly earlier this season by them and Cordoso didn’t even play.
Aaliyah Edwards should have been defending Stuelke from the inside. Ice Brady couldnt do anything. Uconn must return to recruiting dominate post players.
No.
Yes they cheated on uconn
UConn was robbed but no excuses they lost end of story
No UConn got robbed
This is so incorrect. When UConn was up 12 the refs tarting calling the game completely different because they didn’t want UConn to extend their lead. UConn also had the momentum on both sides of the basketball. The refs called fouls on Nika, KK, and Aaliyah consecutively this completely changed UConn’s aggressiveness and allowed Iowa to put points up front the line while the clock was stopped. In basketball momentum is everything and UConn never got the momentum they had when they pushed it out to a 12 point lead for the rest of the game. The refs purposely kept Iowa attached. So that’s why the last foul call on Edwards is telling. Like Geno said Iowa set questionable screens throughout the game too and fouled UConn multiple times with no call. Just rewatch the game, why did the whistle change when Iowa started losing as opposed to when it was back and forth at the beginning. They clearly wanted Caitlin in the title game. There’s no other explanation. I do agree Paige should of been way more aggressive offensively in the fourth quarter but it’s a testament to the mistake UConn has made playing her so much out of position all season. At times she loses the awareness that’s she’s the point guard because of how much she has had to share ball handeling duties with KK and Nika. Paige like Hannah, Juju, and Caitlin need the ball in their hands to be at their complete yes Paige is good off ball but she isn’t a shooting guard. Azzi Fudd for instance is better off ball than she is with the ball in her hands which is why Geno paired them together, their game’s compliment each other like Steph’s and Klay’s. Paige to me is most confident when her ability to set up her teammates can be most utilized. She’s also more difficult to defend when you don’t know if she’s going to pass or score. Geno should of moved her completely back to point guard once the tournament started. Nika and KK’s inability throughout the season to consistently score off ball gave Geno no choice. Her numbers being played so out of position imo speaks to how good she really is. I don’t think Juju, Caitlin, or Hannah could play as many positions as Paige and be as effective as she’s been. Maybe juju. But definitely not Caitlin or Hannah. This game also exposed Caitlinnit really having much of an offensive bag outside of the stepback threes and layups.
Caitlin had no midrange game,
no post up game, no floaters,
or fadeaways. Which is why it’s laughable people don’t think WNBA teams will be able to defend her. All Geno did was force her right the entire game. Same thing he did with Juju by forcing her left. That’s why Paige not being aggressive is troubling. Paige is pretty good at everything so defenses can’t really take anything away from her. Paige stops herself.
I will say, I thought UConn and Iowa were just playing for the opportunity to lose to SC. They just have more players than everyone else right now.
UConn being a possession or two away from the national championship and in my opinion eye test wise they were still the more talented team outta them and Iowa once they get healthy and add Sarah Strong. I don’t see them not in the title game next year. Azzi and Paige both tho have to be healthy finally at the same time. If they are with everything else around them UConn is gonna be tough. Definitely preseason Top 2,
I am convinced that the NCAA wanted Caitlin in the championship game and the referees were part of getting them there. The only way UConn could have won that game would have been to totally dominate Iowa. With a short bench, UConn just didn't have the player resources on the court to maintain the pressure they had in the first quarter.
Take off the tinfoil hat. Of course NCAA hoped for SC vs Iowa. The ratings are going to be record setting. If the refs were trying to ensure an Iowa win they would have called a much tighter game from the start and they didn't.
Letter of the law it was the right call. Spirit of the game and precedent, I have never seen that call in 40 years of watching basketball on any level.
That was absolute hot garbage. Almost as bad for Iowa. Especially Hannah Stulke. Had the performance of her life in Tournament play and you barely heard her name being mentioned.
On Hail Marys, box outs on key possessions, and inbounds plays there are TONS of "rules" being stretched. You play through it, unless someone falls or there's BLOOD.
Illegal screens are just part of important inbounds plays, hence the term "Fight through the screen". No need to fight if the guy is completely stationary.
Also, Michael Jordan did an egregious hold on Larry Nance right before The Shot. Do I even have to break down the ramifications of THAT offensive foul call on MJ?
A good screen the ball handler runs right next to the shoulder of the screener so the defender has to go inside or "fight through" the screen. No moving is necessary to set a good screen. Edwards jumped into the screen which is a foul and was leaning which is also a foul.
He doesn't disagree. In his first sentence he says it's the right call. The Uconn coach didn't say it was a bad call either. They just didn't like it.
uconn deserved to lose.they gave them the game.
You don't know college basketball Catlin Clark was using that screen the whole tournament with Hannah doing it and it wasn't called Clown. And if you think calling bogus foul and the reff not calling that takle foul on Paige or that charging foul against Catlin then you are not in reality bro. Or you no nothing about sports EVERY FREAKING PLAY MATTER! Because if those plays calls resulted in 4-5 or6 points for Ucon they will have won the game so EVERYTHING matters.
Sounds like someone had a bad day. I'd give you a Snickers bar if I had one.