Most Overkill GPU - ASUS 4090 Matrix
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The card by itself looks like a sick SFF build.
mhm might as well cut in pieces a tinyATX that goes around it and wire all the traces lol
FE 4090 with a waterblock is only 236mm/9.3in which is a fantastic option that is significantly cheaper than most 4090 AIO options.
What kinda SFF can fit a 360 rad
@@maozedowner5915 He's talking about just the card and the looks of it, not including the rad.
I'm talikng about just the card and not the rad @@maozedowner5915
That's the coolest looking GPU I've ever seen. I love the minimalism compared to how most GPUs look now
Exactly! Why isn't there more stuff designed like this?
@@salz_Money talks baby. This thing is double the price for a reason.
This exact reason is why I've always stayed away from every gigabyte product ever lmao
And the ugliest logo of all time for some reason
Facts but I wish it was less "gamer" even still.
What a gorgeous bit of hardware. Stylish and functional, probably the best ASUS has put out there recently.
Very very good but 3200 is a lot more than it should be.
For a liquid cooled gpu, it's pretty thick. Shouldn't it be thin? Like old GPUs?
@@fynkozari9271 thats really up to the designers but personally i think its great that its a little thicker than most aio gpus since it massively reduces noise levels.
probably costs 1800 dollars real price.
the editing is just so CLEAN
It's the shots for me
Ok bot
Good bot!
That is the best about this channel
lmao imagine being a bot
this is one of those videos that just made me appreciate the camera work, editing, quality, etc. exceptional job
This looks lovely!!
Also you took some amazing shots there and with the background score, it was EPIC!
Spoilers it’s $3200 everyone. 🥲
Here in Australia, it’s like $7,300 AUD, and to put in perspective, 4090’s here are about $3k AUD
the price overkill was real
The average 4090 in canada is 2500 so if it 3200 its not bad for a fully water cooled gpu
Fuck yeah costs twice as much to,get 3fps, worth it……
and tell me how well it runs after 3 years of hard use…..
you are the best youtuber ever. no additional talk no useless intro or outro straight to the point of the vid
Brother, I have to say you make the best tech content on this platform. And not just because the asthetic is just simply beautiful, but also because you always provide with necessary information. Nothing more nothing less.
I am currently looking for new pc parts and immediately I think of coming to look what you say about whatever I'm looking for, only because I think you just know better. Thank you so much!
All of your recent vids feel like cinematic and it’s AWESOME!!! These videos have actually been the best thing to happen to the tech industry since everything recently has just been ad placements or people not giving the time and attention that Ali gives, great job on these!!
Love your reviews! Very thorough and well done. Finally subscribed.
You make such original, beautiful content and then a gpu unboxing and some tests, maybe I’ve come to expect too much from you lol but keep up the great work!
Yet again, your videography is just amazing.
The video is since 3 min up an your comment is 2 min old. You can't saw the hole video xD
@@fairyprinz9259He quickly downloaded the video and watched it at 10x speed on external software
Because he edits on a top of the range Mac. Mac is for Pros, PC is for browsing / games.
@@bmwofboganville456lol that has absolutely nothing to do with it😂
@@bmwofboganville456He might have edited this video on the mac studio, but that wouldn’t be why it looks good.
That GPU looks gorgeous! Personally would have preferred EPDM vs the sleeving, but that’s just nitpicking. Also well done showcasing the GPU with comparable high quality video!
excellent choice of music and great transition when it shows only the card, chills..
Nice man, there’s basically a new cool shot every few seconds. And the mic testing is great for user experience
I was expecting you'd include your own 4090 results in this video - considering it is a custom liquid cooling job, giving us an insight into what performs better - or how much better or worse can you get if you go custom vs top of the line complete solution like this one.
I guess the difference is he's on an open test bench here. Also a custom loop will share with the CPU so it will depend what CPU you have too.
Yeah that's very unfortunate
I'm pretty sure Asus would not want to show those results considering they are marketing this particular card here.
@@igrvksat worst it’s the same and still has the hassle of open loop cooling
It doesn't perform better. It's the same die, kept cooler by single digits.
It's a brag piece or a benchmark queen. In real use on a gaming rig, it has no extra value aside from sound and aesthetics
I'm a simple man: I see ASUS products, I don't buy them.
LOL
The quality of your video production is soooo good! From a technical perspective I think you make the best tech videos. On top of that I can feel the passion you have for the products you review and the videos you make. Do you compose the music for your videos?
I really can't get enough of this B-roll... damn, awesome work!
That is probably the best looking card I have seen. Never considered a liquid cooled GPU but if I did that would defintiely be at the top.
Would have loved to see a comparison to your own liquid cooled 4090.
Looks like a spaceship. Badass.
Really caters to your style of editing. Like it was made for you
Amazing video as always ! Thank you 😉
It's a really nice looking gpu. It not really worth its $3200 msrp over a normal 4090 and a $270 water block though. You could probably save a good $1000 by doing a custom loop instead of buying this card.
That's a lot more expensive than what I would have guessed, holy. If it were available in Germany I reckon it'd easily cost over 3500€, maybe close to 4000€, because companies like pricing their GPUs so that you end up paying ~20% more for the same GPU in Germany compared to the USA (1€ is still more than $1, about $1.06 right now). That would be at least twice or thrice the money any average person here is going to earn, post-tax.
F it ... I can make a PC with a 7900xtx 7800d3 ASRock motherboard phanteks nv7 case.
Phanteks expensive fan water-cooling and power supply.
2TB m.2 PC4.0
32 gb 6000 cl30
Samsung Odyssey G8 OLED.
Keyboard and mouse...
Same price......
@@C4Oc.+- 4000 euro.
For fun I made a PC for about the same money with high end component's.....
I can make a PC with a 7900xtx 7800d3 ASRock motherboard phanteks nv7 case.
Phanteks expensive fan water-cooling and power supply.
2TB m.2 PC4.0
32 gb 6000 cl30
Samsung Odyssey G8 OLED.
Keyboard and mouse...
For 4180 euro....
All day that over this Asus card ....
Without warranty 😂
This card is straight up disgusting excess, if you're thinking about buying this please donate $1000 to a homeless shelter or something & get a still ridiculously overpowered regular 4090
@@roboticunclephillol donate to a homeless shelter.
Gorgeous card. I was considering waiting but glad I eventually ended up with a Gigabyte Waterforce 4090. Replaced the fans with 6x Noctua’s and it runs fine at +200-220 mhz core depending on the workload (boosts to 3050 mhz) ,+2000 mhz on the RAM, and about 57C. Oh and it’s super quiet. 😌 I have it rendering 24x7 for weeks at a time at these speeds and it doesn’t even blink. 😎
Agree, that Waterforce Extreme 4090 is a silent beast. Like mine as well. How did you replace the fans that came with it though? I added 3 extra, but just moved the stock ones to the back side so they'd be outta sight.
@DavidTrejo
I want to build my own rig. How and where do I start?
@@nochipsonlycrisps8639 start searching for stuff people talk about on UA-cam videos and go from there 😁
I want to live in an optimum tech video, everything so crisp and clean
Not gonna lie, the cinematography in this one is crazy its a breath of fresh air.
You are growing just like the channel. Each video, bigger and bigger!
Was thinking about it that when you'll be posting this! Lol, thanks a lot💖💖💖
Love the fact that you've opened gpu, I was curious how it looked inside, thanks
That 4090 Matrix is absolutely stunning... But I don't think can justify another $1400 over the MSI Suprim Liquid X. I can admire the 4090 Matrix from your video, great job!
Also, the 4090 Matrix would look absolutely SICK with the O11D Evo Upright kit! If you ever do non SFF builds give that a try - the MSI Suprim Liquid X already looks great in the upright configuration. I had wished that the Suprim's cooling tubes would point down like it does in the Matrix.
really, very elegant gpu, but it has the same performance as others, if I take a normal gpu and put a block, I will get a better result and I will save a lot of money
Watching your vids makes my kidney ache out of fear of some shady deals I might end up be making for a GPU that won't even last me that long
I sold three kidneys to buy a 4090
As always love the video, but also the hair is looking amazing!
I didn't notice the RGB in the CES/Computex coverage! Wow this looks really cool! I wonder if the warranty is good for this liquid thermal grease? If I had extra money to burn I'd get this card, but I'm happy with my RTX 3080 Ti FTW3
Wow... not sure if im more impressed by the product or the cinematography. Either way I want one because of this video.
F it ... I can make a PC with a 7900xtx 7800d3 ASRock motherboard phanteks nv7 case.
Phanteks expensive fan water-cooling and power supply.
2TB m.2 PC4.0
32 gb 6000 cl30
Samsung Odyssey G8 OLED.
Keyboard and mouse...
Same price......
@@Mark-nc2nx I don't think anyone's arguing that this is a good value buy.
@@Mark-nc2nxI can buy 10 cars, or one Ferrari
No one is making a value argument here
@@bootchoo96 Ferrari can get to +- 300 kilometers...
This is 5 % faster ....
I don't mind if you pay more for primum and if you like the looks....
But 2x more ....
If it had als 32 gb and between the 15/20% yes ..
This is stupid....
Lmao $3200 price tag. You don't get that much performance over the $2000 strix oc.
I hope that asus finally fixed, how they apply the Liquid Metal! I had to repaste my Scar17, because the Liquid Metal was applied extremely bad! The liquid metal was literally everywhere (within the chamber), but not where it should have been…
i can only imagine this thing would look absolutely sick in a vertical mount setup in a case like an 011D
GOAT of Editing. Love you
wow, I really like the aesthetic of the card! not goofy ROG STRIX type stuff, but clean
Very cool looking, but I have an issue with an AIO cooling solution like this. In 3-4 years, that liquid is going to evaporate, and then what do you do? Would have been cool if they had put standard fittings on the thing.
I had an AIO in my last system for almost years and the liquid didn't evaporate. Doesn't seem like it'd be an issue within the standard lifetime of PC hardware.
Sleeved tubing won’t lose liquid. Rubber tubings will cause liquid to vaporize, and that’s why almost all AIOs are using sleeved tubing
Just ordered one, should be delivered this Friday, and I....CAN'T WAIT!
dude your camera work is amazing for real
The details on the card are amazing!
But the only reason people would buy it is for the looks, temps looks great but not worth much since price for this will surely be really high
Yeah, $3200 USD
@@ArdentMoogle3200 only? This is a must have then .I wonder if it will run minecraft on my 1080p monitor!
Optimum is the benchmark of cinematography
I have been getting ASUS Matrix cards since the ATI 5870 Matrix. I will likely be picking this one up as well.
What a gorgeous piece of work! Not talking about the GPU but the aesthetics of the room!!! Braaaavo!
Considering how massive coolers are getting I’m not sure this is overkill. Feels like someday this will be standard.
Yet this is a pretty massive design that only got an additional 3 percent in frames over stock. The other side of the spectrum can look how small a cooler can be with undervolting. This has already been done hundreds of times before. I much rather buy a 4090 that's uses less power in a smaller formfactor.
So you take a $2000 gpu and slap a what 80 buck cooler on it and now it suddenly cost $3200 smells like bs to mee
Well said!
As an owner of the Suprim X Liquid 4090, I am happy with my purchase. Would be cool to see a max overclock of the system.
Beautiful video optimum as usual!
It's always fun to watch your videos while eating a kebab!
2:08 There is another problem that you didn't mention, Liquid Metal (LM) eats bare copper. In 1-2 years you will see your temps go up and you will have to reapply LM to bring your card back to spec. If you decide to purchase this card I would replace the LM with Thermal Grizzly's KryoSheet on day one and never have to service it again. Bottom line, ASUS should have nickel plated the block.
How's the kryosheet compare to PTM 7950?
Good mention but I guess if you have the money for this card you probably have the money to upgrade every 2 years/new gpu cycles…..
@@isocle The KryoSheet runs about 2C hotter than liquid metal, beats every paste on the market and PTM 7950. KryoSheet never dries out, so it will last the life of your device just like PTM 7950. PTM 7950 is not sold to the public so you have to go through an entity that will cut it down to size, repackage and sell it to you. This drives up cost and exposes its sales to fraud. modDYI sells authentic PTM 7950 just shy of three times the cost of KryoSheet. PTM 7950 is on par with high performance paste. The downsides of KryoSheet is that it is conductive and if you need to remount your cooler, you will have to buy another one. You should use conformal coating on any SMDs around the chip you are cooling with it.
@@adang9948 You are correct but I'm not a fan of e-waste. If you buy this card and replace it in two years, give it to someone in need, in a condition that doesn't require them to tare it apart.
That's pretty important info. Thanks for the heads up.
Looking forward to the RMA numbers due to using bare copper with liquid metal.
literally nothing will happen. I'm rockin' Fractal's Celsius S36 with liquid metal for over 3 years now and i have 0 issues.
Looking forward the RTX50 with a watercooling block.
Looking forward to seeing the smallest case you can cram this thing into.
I do not even care about GPU updates or anything related anymore.. still cant stop myself from clicking your vids. The quality and storytelling is just too captivating. nice ring you have there btw ;)
The look is definitely amazing. I really don't like the current designs for GPU blocks, most come from the top and on sff is ruins some builds.
I am always a bit sceptical about the longevity of these AIO liquid cooled GPUs. Unlike CPU coolers which are separate things, these are bolted onto the gpu and probably all proprietary. Worse yet these go onto the most powerful and expensive GPUs
I've had an AIO cooled GPU (EVGA 2070 Super XC Hybrid Gaming) for four years and it's been great. Still running cool, still amazingly quiet. It'll definitely last until I replace it in the next year or two.
I would be curious what the numbers would be if these tests were done in a closed case like in the "I fixed pc cooling" video. Because in this test the FE 4090 has almost the same temps as the channeled airflow 4090 in the "I fixed pc cooling" video
What’s amazing as well is how cool the FE is, compared to past versions of the FE’s
3090 FE is already very good TBH.
Despite the FE being the loudest card out of these 3, it has by far the most pleasant sound profile and makes the impression of being the quietest
The only sound you're hearing with the MSI Liquid is the coil whine, which goas away after a month of usage. (My guess is this specific MSI Liquid was kept on a shelf and not used that much, so it still has coil whine)
" extremely expensive" would be an understatement... It's $3,200 USD. That is quite frankly insane. You could get a 4090 tuf OC (or non OC for $200) less for $1800, which has the same PCB minus a few power stages that don't matter as the Strix, Optimus GPU block (the best block available. Or Watercool), put liquid metal on it, EK rad/fittings/tube/FLT pump res combo, Phanteks T30 fans and fluid for less than this AND it would perform considerably better.
Optimus, the company with shit QC and CS, and the one that uses a water chiller to advertise how “good” they are? Lol
You are missing the entire point of this card. You get it because you can get it, not for if you need to save a bit but still want a 4090.
cost of good ek pump with that overpriced block would cost more and look mouch worse. I am just sad it released so late i hope it will be new gpu lineup for 5090 etc as something like aorus and msi watercooled gpus
@@erisium6988 just wait 2-3 years
The MSI one Ali tested in the video is also currently $1800 US.
Wow... cool shots. Nice work
I like where expensive tech is going, away from all the gamer aesthetics into some really good-looking tech.
Times are changing for the better, finally!
There’s a big issue with this card and that’s the fact the copper isn’t nickel plated. I don’t know why they left the copper gate in this card it’s gonna lead to issues in around a year.
What. Why? The surface that matter won't oxidize as it's sealed. The rest can oxidize and it wouldn't matter.
@@ivyr336 it doesn’t oxidize the liquid metal will combine with copper and form an alloy that will ruin cooling because there’s no real conductor for the heat to get to the block and you’ll have to reapply the LM to the GPU. This is something that asus laptops also deal with often. It’s just chemistry and they don’t care I guess.
It eventually makes a layer that won’t be an issue after enough time…but you wouldn’t have to deal with this and the repasting if they just plated it with nickel.
Gamers nexus has a video on this. It plates the copper. Doesn't impact performance.
What you are describing sounds like LM + an aluminum heatsink.
@@ivyr336 it doesn’t effect performance because it’s a bad conductor it effects performance because it becomes a solid alloy that you need to add more conductor to until a solid layer is there so it doesn’t have anything to react with and yes bare copper and LM have a reaction with each other as well
Opti is an actual goat. Solo creator with this prod quality, jacked af and has a tastefully modded car. ACTUALLY who I want to be when I grow up.
Fr bro
Also, dont forget on top of that hes ACCUALY a good gamer😊
@@philippeckardt1163Yes! And when I met him few days ago, he even took his time for a little smalltalk while healing at least two blind children. Will never forget that
Isn’t that how any man who has his shit together looks like? You take care of your health and manage your finances, and passionate about something you enjoy doing, it’s really that simple, you can spend time learning and creating or waste your life looking and admiring others, the choice is yours.
It looks great, I would love to take this apart and add it to a custom loop
The cooling and performance numbers are very similar to my EK Block using thermal grizzly. My avg temp is 52c under load, and hotspot is 61c.
The design is great, but one aspect of watercooling is that you can end up with a smaller card suited for sff builds. This is not exactly space saving. And I'd have liked to see a comparison with a properly blocked 4090 using a heatkiller block.
This is a commercial, not a review. He's trying to sell it and highlight it's most positive aspects, not objectively look at it. People seemed to not realize most UA-camrs are advertising, not reviewing.
@@mangaas he is not sponsored, and buys every item he reviews, or makes videos of, himself. This is a review no matter how you look at it - the depth at which he goes into reviewing it is another story. In no way did I feel like he was trying to sell me into this product, he just showcased a new, cool, pretty overkill product.
2:08 Two problems. Radiator surface is not nickel plated, so liquid metal will diffuse in to the copper and stop working in year or two...
2 problems? :p
not true
@@erisium6988 Of course it's true, you can see that it's not nickel plated and the issues with copper + LM have been documented for 2 decades.
Additives easily solve this problem. Asus ain't that dumb.
@@zqzj You are confusing the loop gunking up from the inside, which is fixable with additives, with the liquid metal attacking the cold plate
Have been interested in this card ever since seeing it for the first time. Super clean. It's the FE of AIO 4090s imo. I just wish it had been released earlier in the product cycle.
the first few seconds were a blessing for my eyes
When I think "full coverage" I think water channels over the components. Not just a plate of metal that is cooled by a separate part that's cooled by water. Like the difference between a back plate, a backplate with thermal pads, and an active backplate.
Dude that thing costs more then my Pc... and my monitor... and my chair... and my... Yeah so that costs more then my entire setup lol.
Thats preeee cool
Would love to have seen some sort of black chrome or just satin black instead of the chrome tube connectors.
And swivel mounts on those hoses, just to make the card a little "shorter"
I was going to ask about the STRIX LC ? But seems its been discontinued ?
I have the Suprim in an otherwise ASUS build, so it would have been great to have had that as an option 9 months ago for looks. In my Hyte Y60 that would have looked really good.
Yeah, that's definitely an engineer's passion project right there. Looks very classy, might even become a collectors item.
It's $4000, the ASUS ROG GeForce RTX 4090 Matrix Platinum is $4000!
By the time it reaches your country, if you're in the EU, it'll be $5000. I think I'll prefer to be able to pay my rent for the next 6 months instead.
Man that bass when he showcases the looks of the matrix. whoosh!
Looks great, will there be a non-AIO version?
no longer "optimum tech" but now "optimum" everything. optimum tech, optimum car, optimum lift? 👀
Optimum wife?
That's probably why he renamed his channel to simply optimum.
OVER..PRICED LOL😊
I think it is overpriced but I think it’s more of a flex than a value for the money part still dope tho
the camera work and quality of this vid is insane..............
My absolute dream card (aesthetically) and have been wanting to water cool for a long time
If I had $3200 to spare I would buy this in a heartbeat. It’s gorgeous
Hard agree
WOW, what an overkill GPU, for all the $$$ and is going to give you a 7 to 11 fps boost... Like always the freeloader UA-camrs... 🤣
Would love to see a build with this one Ali
is there a small factor case that could fit the ROG Matrix?
will you be building or show casing one in a future video?
the floating design is sickkkk
That mouse click you're using as you highlight various data points was 🤌🤌🤌
it will look more cool if Asus add more RGB support for the printed letters on the front as well.
I really wish they just made a waterblock version of this. Thanks for the video, well done.
2:39
I- I don't know how to describe this feeling I got watching this video, especially at this part. I just... that thing looks amazing, and I, along with everyone else, dream for the day we can install one of those
THAT IS JUST TOOOO CLEAN BRO
Now imagine if you could fit this into an itx case that would be crazy
I wish they would just sell it as the gpu part alone with out the aio part for custom water cooling because this gpu would look sick in a build with custom water cooling
Hello! there are so many mini itx case released this year, are you planning to do the follow-up V4? have a nice day!
This is the best looking card ive seen to date. I need one for the pc and one for the shelf!
I'm just waiting for Ali to be like I'm modding this to put it in a SFF build!
Cool card and all but the fact that the FE is around 10c warmer and only a few fps slower, and also being able to fit it into cases like the fractal ridge makes it a so much better choice
I couldn't even find it on any listings, just review sites. When will they release it? (Asking for a friend 😄)
Looks amazing btw! Really cool and elegant design. 😎