Why isn't Melanie Powlowski being held accountable!?! She mirrored Lori's EVERY move. She knew & was a part of Lori's, Chad's & Alex's plans. She may not have known all the details but she knew what was going to happen to her ex and she knew what was going to happen to Lori's children. Had Alex not missed, her ex husband might also have been dead. Had her ex not taken her children, they may also have been dead.
50:30 is confirming that Melanie agreed her daughter Brighton is possessed and is taking the bad news well. She knows the kids were murdered and possibly came to Utah to harm her dark children. How is she still free and allowed to be with her kids?
I dont know but she was clearly waiting for her son Blake's percentages that's how you know she knew Lori had murdered her own kids and said nothing not to mention she set Brandon up to get shot at thank God he's ok
I agree, and I would include Melanie Gibb, Zulema Pastenes, Summer Shifflet (who offered to kill at Lori's command in a text message), Melani Beaudreaux, anyone involved in the Preparing A People podcasts (Jason Mow) in that number. They all need to be tried.
The horror of this just never stops. How could anyone "give the children a reason to scream"? Tylee was her own flesh and blood. Her daughter. I hope these monster's get what's coming to them for hurting/killing innocent people including Tammy, and Charles.
I just happened upon this video; I never heard any of this on any recaps/news. Death enalty and rot in isolated hell until the switch is pulled. Insane monsters -
It’s like these two were playing a Dungeons and Dragons type of game but killing innocent children and adults for real. If their actions weren’t so heinous, the texts would be laughable; “I ripped his aura with a beam of light” and “Grab me by the storm”. Chad is an absolute chump who basked in the attention he received from Lori the zombie hunter and his fan girls. I know Lori is mentally unstable but she knows she committed these crimes and broke the law because she took steps to cover her tracks. Chad was too busy thinking with his “lion fire”instead of his brain to realize he’s not the mastermind he thought he was. These two sick idiots have destroyed so many lives. Rest in peace Charles, Tylee, J.J. & Tammy.
Oh I don’t think they did . I’m positive he unalived himself as part of the plan the 3 -6 of them had in motion! 4 others were Alex , Zulema , Melanie P & Melanie G !!!! I think this was part of it . Once Lori & Chad married and Alex & Zulema married it was time to take his own life. This is why that prayer was so intense.
I'm grateful to the investigators and the jury for their service and for locking up this woman for the rest of her life. One down, one to go. At the end of the day I see the whole scheme as an old fashioned murders for money plot dressed up in religious language to make it more palatable to themselves. She was dancing on the beach while her children were in the ground. Tylee's body was burned, and JJ wrapped in plastic. They should be living their lives right now, along with Charles and Tammy. I almost choked listening to Lori's statement to the court, of how much she mourns her children, and how she talks to her "good friend Tammy Daybell" all the time. Lori could have given her children to her relatives, and they could have divorced their partners, but they wanted the life insurance and benefits, and there's nothing holy in that.
I listened to this trial at the time and was so impressed by all the law enforcement and court personnel at every level-as investigators, as witnesses, as people. Hearing the testimony again, I am struck all over again by how carefully and thoroughly they built the case and presented it. I’m also impressed by how quickly the prosecutor is able to regroup after defense counsel’s many objections. There was a moment, after the trial was concluded, where several of the detectives walked out together, wearing sunglasses. Larry Woodcock was either singing or playing a Queen song that JJ particularly liked. I believe it was “we will rock you,” and I thought “Fair enough. They are rockstars.” I’ve also gained a lot of appreciation and respect for Judge Boyce. He’s in a position where he’s never going to please everybody, and I know some people felt that he was biased. I felt he was cautious, deliberate, and made decisions as he did because he didn’t want to create grounds for appeal. I can’t imagine how embarrassing it would be to have all your text messages read publicly, and I think it was a great moment when the agent got to testify regarding the meaning of “grab me by the Storm.” In the years I’ve been following true crime, I’ve seen a lot of family members in denial, adamant that their loved one is innocent, but can Chad’s children possibly still think he is not involved? Really?! Especially in the death of their mother. I can’t imagine hearing these texts and knowing they were sent by your father. I will never forget this case.
Definitely these monsters were on a roll And were killing people in quick succession in my opinion Kay Woodcock was next on the hit list I also think they wanted Zulema taken out but that's another story.
If she participated in killing the kids, they would have found her DNA. They didn't so that's why shes wasn't charged too. Her kids were in danger because they were deemed to be zombies too.
Mumbo jumbo, how sad they used rubbish to determine who should live or die, JJ talking nonsense, living with her analyzing everything about him, & Tylee so frustrated by these so called adults who were out of their minds.
It's crazy to think that this all started from him lusting over her and her loving every minute of it, all the way up to the moment they Chad gets arrested.
Rachel Smith was a great prosecutor in this case. She was thorough, and new the case well. After hearing this testimony, it confirms Brandon Bordeaux's children were deemed dark, and given zombie names based on Chad's rating scale. Blake was the name given to Brandon's oldest son, who they were going to "sacrifice" to get to their heaven. Chad Daybell, Melani Pawlowski, Alex Cox, and Lori Vallow Melani and Alex had every intention of killing the kids or anyone was in their way of being together. When Alex drove Melani went to Brandon's parents house where the children were going to be kidnapped but the police arrested her, thank God!
I didn't watch much of Lori's trial, so am backtracking while watching Chad's. These people deserve life in prison, and I hope it's absolutely miserable every single day. Monsters.
At 7:20 “ It must have been Ned, before We Got rid of Him.” If this doesn’t scream conspiracy, I don’t know what does. Chad and Lori were thick as thieves, or as they like to say Gadiantons.
Chad's trial brought me back here. These messages are so chilling and disgusting, it is hard to believe that these people are deciding who lives and who dies, through some ridiculous light or dark score. Shame on them!!!!!
Heartbreaking to think what these two children went through. Even worse if Lori was watching or directly involved. Just absolute evil😢 rip Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy
Shocking and unimaginable evil under the guise of piousness! I wonder how many more crimes of this sort have gone unpunished, these people seemed so harmless at first sight.
Lori was looking for demons, but all she had to do was look in the mirror. It still blows my mind what people will believe or accept so they don't have to face the guilt and judgement of their own choices. If she wasnt stopped many more people would be dead now. RIP JJ, Tylee, Tammy, and Charles
I believe Melanie Powlowski was also involved, but I also believe Garth helped his dad, he was home the night his mom passed, and apparently never noticed anything, and Tammy said she thought at one point it was Garth with the air gun in the driveway, here in Chad's own word's " Garth is going to help me ", even if it is a little help, you can bet there's more, he'll more than likely follow in his father's footsteps, the fact these kid's see nothing wrong with this tradgedy, I guess it's all in the way your tought and raised,💯⚠️💯 RIP 🍃🙏🍃 those taken to soon,🍃 your in the arm's of the angel's, they are waiting to bring all of you home, where you belong with loved one's and to finally set you free,🍃🕯️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕯️🍃
Leave his kids out of this. The fact that you accuse his son of helping to murder and cover up the death of his mother is disgusting. You are a spectator in other peoples lives and inserting your accusations on whim. Just because you want to be part of some conversation. True crime viewers really are hitting all time lows.
How do you know Emma didn't help? Poor Tammy was in a home with people that wanted to snuff her out for the life insurance money honey! Garth was motivated by lies and money. When Chad and Lori took Garth , Emma, Leigha, Mark and the 5th child and their spouses and grandkids? I don't understand how all of them were so welcoming to the very people who killed their beloved mother!?
Chad is a very sick and evil 😈 individual. I finally got to listen to it without distractions. Lori should be ashamed of herself. Oh my goodness this is so sick and pathetic. All the different names. Imagine their are people like this in the world.
These have to be the stupidest two I’ve ever heard of… Nothing like telling people look at me I wanted money 🤣🤣🤣…. Neither are the sharpest tool in the shed…. But at the end of the day, they get them… Thank You Chad and Lori for helping catching you!!!!
Might sound a little crazy but Its crossed my mind that Melanie could still be a risk, Dangerous still. If she was so brainwashed and heavily influenced by Lori and Chad who knows if she would still think of the Dark Spirits .😮
She’s very much a risk. When she moved to rex burg, she left all her kids belongings on the sidewalk. She took nothing for her kids, yet was searching for them . Amongst all the talk of her kids being dark spirits and the Lord telling Melanie that plans were in place for her benefit, I believe her plan was to kill her kids. She should be locked up forever. Especially for her part in the attempted murder of her ex husband.
I can't wait for that guys trial because to me it sounds like he was riding a fictional book kinda-sorta but Lori was stupid enough to believe it and did everything they said he manipulated her into killing half the people in her family and his wife and she doesn't get it now he's going to throw under the bus big-time like her lawyers we're throwing him under the bus they're both guilty as heck equal cuz they both will I don't think Chad believed anything he was telling anybody but Lori believe it and so did the rest of those women I think he's been laughing at all of them all along
(36:13) How the 🔥Hell🔥 do Mormons justify this kind of delusion? Has the church ever addressed this case, under whose auspices these crimes were perpetrated? If this religious belief system fosters crime in its name, how many more Loris and Chads can we expect to be spawned from it??
Do you know of any Mormons that justify what Chad and Lori did, because I haven't heard anybody, anywhere that does. The church holds disciplinary councils immediately upon learning of situations such as this. Chad has been excommunicated for his teachings that are contrary to church doctrine. The church excommunicates members found guilty of murder. Nothing the church teaches justifies Chad and Lori's beliefs and actions.
@@holden3 I never said anyone denounced them , there is absolutely no reason to because their beliefs were completely contrary to everything the church teaches and the church doesn't affiliate itself with apostate groups. No one supports their actions, inside or outside of the church. You can't find anyone who does except maybe a few of their disillusioned followers. Nobody is supporting any one of their twisted beliefs. And they were excommunicated for their actions and beliefs. What they did and their twisted beliefs have nothing to do with the church.
And now we have the Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt case. Does seem to be a theme with Mormons gone crazy and hurting their kids in the name of their religion. I'll note that none of these perpetrators were considered mainstream, but there are a disturbing number of Mormon extremists around.
Melanie Polowski is just as copable as a participant in these crimes .In fact Melanie was living next door to lori when Alex was performing his murdering crimes of both of Lori's children
I think Lori and Alex started killing a long time ago, with her older sister in 1998 - Alex was the beneficiary of death benefits from that and Lori even brought her up in trial like she brought up Tammy saying she was her “best friend” and she “still talks to her all the time”. Tammy, Chad’s wife whom they killed. Lori said in her final statement at trial that she experienced a near death experience with Tylee’s birth and that she was outside her body and saw Stacey, the sister who died young of mysterious cause. I think she also killed her first husband Joseph Anthony Ryan Jr., who legally adopted Colby. Colby is Lori’s eldest, only surviving child. The couple's biological daughter, Tylee, was born in 2002. They divorced in 2005. In 2007, Lori's brother, Alex Cox, attacked Ryan, claiming he had been abusive to Lori and the children. Lori attempted to convince police and DCF that Joe Ryan abused both children sexually. She did that to get custody but fortunately, she wasn’t believed after an investigation. Not long after that, Joseph died suddenly - and I truly believe she and Alex caused it. She STILL CONVINCED HER OWN CHILDREN THAT THEY HAD BEEN MOLESTED BY THEIR FATHER. This was long before the murder of her husband Charles who was onto her and tried desperately to get help. She went on to kill her own children, Chad’s wife Tammy and I’m sure she would have killed Jj’s grandmother Kay next. Kay is the biological grandmother of JJ and the sister of Charles, who adopted JJ with Lori. Both JJ’s biological parents died - one likely died of grief after JJ was found murdered. Kay Woodcock was the payee on Charles life insurance. Lori didn’t even know he’d taken her off his policy and added Kay instead until after she and Alex killed Charles. She was absolutely livid with fury.
I've been listening to Lori's trial again in the evenings after court is over for the day in Chad's trial. I still firmly believe Chad absolutely knew he was making this stuff up as he went along and Lori pretender to believe it because it was convenient and got her what she wanted. The whole thing about MelPs child drawing 3 crosses to "draw in evil" was completely made up for one, but 3 crosses is a common Christian symbol. It represents the three crosses on the hill, one of which Jesus was nailed to.
I am absolutely floored regarding the casting on the kids. This makes me want to throw up. Having been brought up Mormon and then as an adult practicing LHP Witchcraft, this is never allowed in ether tradition. Let me be clear, Lori had no right to do this to those inside her family who posed her no harm. I am so tired of reading that Mormons don't caste on anyone. Most modern ones don't. However, some families and clandestine groups made up by self proclaimed prophets do. Its sort of like what the Amish call Hexari . I come from such a family. This is not mainstream and is very misunderstood. The only reason I am even speaking about this is, I believe that what she and Chad did is worthy of the death penalty. I trust that members of the actual groups and societies within and outside of the Church will see to it this is addressed properly via magick. As for the poisoning with Malachite stone, that can be very painful and is deadly. Someone need to find what is left of that anointing oil and destroy it. I would hate to see it used on anyone else. It is highly toxic in food or drink. Do not reuse the container it was kept in for those purposes. Also, portals go both ways. Energy of that sort flows from one to another at random. I already did a little something on midsummer/St Ivan Kupala Day should anyone wish to piggy back. 93.
If anyone is a jerk, it's Lori and not Kay and Larry Woodcock. Kay and Larry seemed to love JJ so much, and they didn't kill them. Lori was all about money.
How did Tammy and Chads children hear and see all this 🗑️and still decide to stand by him and blame it all on Lorri...All but one child from what i understand.😮LIKE WOW
I'm SO aggravated the judge wouldn't let cameras in the phone "because ld didn't want them"! She didn't want anyone to see her! Guess she thought it would help keep her from getting a hard sentence!
I grew up with a narcissistic mother like Lori and so did my baby's father.....I was assertive and emotionally expressive and stood up to her and he was passive and emotionally suppressive and became just like her....I grew up trying to be everything but like my mother and he turned into his mother by having split personality with the other personality as his mother just like Norman Bates.....so I am very thankful for this case showing an example of the delusional horror show people who live with stupid narcissistic mothers lacking self awareness like Lori go through....I survived a mother like Lori and so did my baby's father but he only survived in body so far, his mind is already destroyed by his Mother Gothel.....Lori is just like a Mother Gothel and all the Mother Gothels of the world are going extinct thanks to the internet......
I so hope some neutral intellect will write a book about this historical crime when all is said & done. As a Christian there is much I'd like to hear from other than the Morman faith. What or where does it say in any religion that murder of your own children & spouses is rightous? I've never heard a religion that speaks of zombies either. Looking forward to that book!
What killed Tammy? It must have been poisoning, right? Has it been discussed if it could be malachite? Also Alex . Wasn’t it mentioned somewhere something about Malachite healing balm?
I belive as much as loris trouble with men and her liking money as much as she did we all no xhad uad no money exspext for the life insurance policy they probably both would uave spent all that money lori would have eventually divorce chad too hes stupid he should have thought of that and the fact that the kids were in the media everyday woyld uave told chad they were going to get caught well loris were she belongs now in 2024 its time for chad to get his
"Sealed as husband and wife dor eternity" Charles was killed July 11 2019. Tammy was killed October 19 2019. Chad and Lori had sex 3 weeks after meeting. Slide 27 arrived at temple for sealing. Slide 27. July 21st 2019, So Charles had been killed but Tammy was still alive, but Chad and Lori had already got married as Storm I mean James and Elena. "2 lonely misunderstood souls" met Oct 26 2018 St George Utah then again mid November 2018 in Chandler Arizona and had sex on the couch already. "She loves it" "she was among the greatest women on earth." Both were cheating on their spouse. Charles dead 10 days. Temple records shows both Chad and Lori were sealed in Gilbert Az on Nov 16 2018. "I cant wait to be with you forever" I must say, you two will be together forever, but those times shall be in the depths of Hell with your master Satan. "I love you, you will enjoy the scenery" "my greatest desire" "on a tropical island together" married Nov 5 2019 Kaui.
Well, "spiritual" polygamy where a man is "sealed" to more than one woman is kind of a thing with Mormons. Only one wife is supposed to be alive at a time, so they kinda jumped the gun.... Women can only be "sealed" to one man, but it's cool for men to have more than one. Yay patriarchy!
Why isn't Melanie Powlowski being held accountable!?! She mirrored Lori's EVERY move. She knew & was a part of Lori's, Chad's & Alex's plans. She may not have known all the details but she knew what was going to happen to her ex and she knew what was going to happen to Lori's children. Had Alex not missed, her ex husband might also have been dead. Had her ex not taken her children, they may also have been dead.
50:30 is confirming that Melanie agreed her daughter Brighton is possessed and is taking the bad news well. She knows the kids were murdered and possibly came to Utah to harm her dark children. How is she still free and allowed to be with her kids?
I dont know but she was clearly waiting for her son Blake's percentages that's how you know she knew Lori had murdered her own kids and said nothing not to mention she set Brandon up to get shot at thank God he's ok
I agree, and I would include Melanie Gibb, Zulema Pastenes, Summer Shifflet (who offered to kill at Lori's command in a text message), Melani Beaudreaux, anyone involved in the Preparing A People podcasts (Jason Mow) in that number. They all need to be tried.
Yes, she has been in court trying to get access to them, and was pregnant again. Extremely concerning.
I totally agree 100%!!
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The horror of this just never stops. How could anyone "give the children a reason to scream"? Tylee was her own flesh and blood. Her daughter. I hope these monster's get what's coming to them for hurting/killing innocent people including Tammy, and Charles.
I just happened upon this video; I never heard any of this on any recaps/news. Death enalty and rot in isolated hell until the switch is pulled. Insane monsters -
@kelly8107‘busy and happy in heaven’ Mormon speak for eternal joy, busy doing the Lord’s errand.
I believe Lori wanted to hurt Kaate so badly because she didn't get that million dollar insurance. Well, one down and one more to go !
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This whole group is dangerous and need locked up forever.
They basically invented their own religion. Oops, excuse me, I misspelled "Cult." Smh
I agree. When someone who doesn't know you determines that you need to die & then arranges to have you killed - that's dangerous!
@@SweetUniverse they apparently had plans to kill many other family members as well.
It’s like these two were playing a Dungeons and Dragons type of game but killing innocent children and adults for real. If their actions weren’t so heinous, the texts would be laughable; “I ripped his aura with a beam of light” and “Grab me by the storm”. Chad is an absolute chump who basked in the attention he received from Lori the zombie hunter and his fan girls. I know Lori is mentally unstable but she knows she committed these crimes and broke the law because she took steps to cover her tracks. Chad was too busy thinking with his “lion fire”instead of his brain to realize he’s not the mastermind he thought he was. These two sick idiots have destroyed so many lives. Rest in peace Charles, Tylee, J.J. & Tammy.
I still think they killed Alec.
For sure.
!00% they did!! the blessing for Alex and him telling his wife where that $4k was
Yup. And Alec likely killed their older sister years ago when the whole family was in Hawaii. Her death was suspicious in my opinion
Yes, or talked his crazy azz into doing it himself
Oh I don’t think they did . I’m positive he unalived himself as part of the plan the 3 -6 of them had in motion! 4 others were Alex , Zulema , Melanie P & Melanie G !!!! I think this was part of it . Once Lori & Chad married and Alex & Zulema married it was time to take his own life. This is why that prayer was so intense.
And all of that just to be with that Peter Griffin looking guy! 🤮
I can't decide if he looks more like a giant thumb or a toad.
With like an 80 iq
She has a movie witchy look too
Plus they would have collected cash from Melanie P and many others of the 144 and then split with the cash with a giant trail of death behind them.
Lmao
I'm grateful to the investigators and the jury for their service and for locking up this woman for the rest of her life. One down, one to go. At the end of the day I see the whole scheme as an old fashioned murders for money plot dressed up in religious language to make it more palatable to themselves. She was dancing on the beach while her children were in the ground. Tylee's body was burned, and JJ wrapped in plastic. They should be living their lives right now, along with Charles and Tammy. I almost choked listening to Lori's statement to the court, of how much she mourns her children, and how she talks to her "good friend Tammy Daybell" all the time. Lori could have given her children to her relatives, and they could have divorced their partners, but they wanted the life insurance and benefits, and there's nothing holy in that.
Well said
@johannaunderwood Tylee's body was butchered as well as burned I think I read!
I listened to this trial at the time and was so impressed by all the law enforcement and court personnel at every level-as investigators, as witnesses, as people. Hearing the testimony again, I am struck all over again by how carefully and thoroughly they built the case and presented it. I’m also impressed by how quickly the prosecutor is able to regroup after defense counsel’s many objections. There was a moment, after the trial was concluded, where several of the detectives walked out together, wearing sunglasses. Larry Woodcock was either singing or playing a Queen song that JJ particularly liked. I believe it was “we will rock you,” and I thought “Fair enough. They are rockstars.” I’ve also gained a lot of appreciation and respect for Judge Boyce. He’s in a position where he’s never going to please everybody, and I know some people felt that he was biased. I felt he was cautious, deliberate, and made decisions as he did because he didn’t want to create grounds for appeal. I can’t imagine how embarrassing it would be to have all your text messages read publicly, and I think it was a great moment when the agent got to testify regarding the meaning of “grab me by the Storm.” In the years I’ve been following true crime, I’ve seen a lot of family members in denial, adamant that their loved one is innocent, but can Chad’s children possibly still think he is not involved? Really?! Especially in the death of their mother. I can’t imagine hearing these texts and knowing they were sent by your father. I will never forget this case.
they both need the chair . they do not even deserve a trial.
💯 I totally agree. I wish they'd hanged them as soon as they found the bodies of the 2 kids on Chad's land.
& her, MENTAL ILLNESS, leniency ??
@@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie No mental illness as an excuse.
This is a monster living out her fantasies, THAT is the truth!!
Indeed.
@@jeanettecoleman-mz7ieShe was mentally able to manipulate everyone around her... No leniency for her...
Never heard of a case with so many victims involved in one family! And if they didn't arrest her they would of keep on going!
Melanie Boudreaux's children would been murdered as well as Brandon Boudreaux Adam Cox.
Definitely these monsters were on a roll And were killing people in quick succession in my opinion Kay Woodcock was next on the hit list I also think they wanted Zulema taken out but that's another story.
Would have…simple.
No one will ever be arrested for alex probably, and dont forget they tried to kill brandon
50:30- and Melanie is not behind bars because………?????
If she participated in killing the kids, they would have found her DNA. They didn't so that's why shes wasn't charged too. Her kids were in danger because they were deemed to be zombies too.
@@amandafight7627not saying she did, but just because her DNA isn’t there, it doesn’t mean she wasn’t involved.
Probably cut a deal to testify against Chad.
@@bellesouth3052exactly, MP will be forced to testify against Lolo or go to jail for conspiring to kill Brandon Bordeaux.
Pretty. White and mormon
Same reason lori got away for so long
Mumbo jumbo, how sad they used rubbish to determine who should live or die, JJ talking nonsense, living with her analyzing everything about him, & Tylee so frustrated by these so called adults who were out of their minds.
So glad Chad will get is soon. They’re both to blame. Justice for JJ, Tylee, Charles and Tammy
And Joe Ryan too. She killed him all by her little ole self.
So glad Lori never collected Charles' life insurance. Imo, JJ never would've seen a dime of that money & neither would have Charles' sons.
And the kids would still have been killed.
These people make me sick to my stomach!
Wow. So that's how Chad felt about not only the woman who was supporting him but also his children. What do his children think now?
It's crazy to think that this all started from him lusting over her and her loving every minute of it, all the way up to the moment they Chad gets arrested.
They support him and lie that their mother was sick and he wasn't having an affair
Rachel Smith was a great prosecutor in this case. She was thorough, and new the case well.
After hearing this testimony, it confirms Brandon Bordeaux's children were deemed dark, and given zombie names based on Chad's rating scale. Blake was the name given to Brandon's oldest son, who they were going to "sacrifice" to get to their heaven.
Chad Daybell, Melani Pawlowski, Alex Cox, and Lori Vallow Melani and Alex had every intention of killing the kids or anyone was in their way of being together. When Alex drove Melani went to Brandon's parents house where the children were going to be kidnapped but the police arrested her, thank God!
I didn't watch much of Lori's trial, so am backtracking while watching Chad's. These people deserve life in prison, and I hope it's absolutely miserable every single day. Monsters.
Same
At 7:20 “ It must have been Ned, before We Got rid of Him.”
If this doesn’t scream conspiracy, I don’t know what does. Chad and Lori were thick as thieves, or as they like to say Gadiantons.
Two individuals beyond evil. This is heinous. Serial killers
Besides them conspiring to kill off everybody their texts are so nauseating
"Grab me by the storm." Ironic because I heard that and my vag dried up like the damn Mojave. WHO talks like that??? Yuck.
Especially grab me by the storm! Ugh Chad🤮🤮🤮 pervert...
Sick twisted story 😢
For all their ridiculous mumbo jumbo it's clear to see their main objectives were sex & money.
EVIL MONSTERS!!
My kids are going to die. "That is sweet! I miss you terribly" just grab me by the storm
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Chad's trial brought me back here. These messages are so chilling and disgusting, it is hard to believe that these people are deciding who lives and who dies, through some ridiculous light or dark score. Shame on them!!!!!
This seems like absolute madness
it is
Heartbreaking to think what these two children went through. Even worse if Lori was watching or directly involved. Just absolute evil😢 rip Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy
Shocking and unimaginable evil under the guise of piousness! I wonder how many more crimes of this sort have gone unpunished, these people seemed so harmless at first sight.
Those poor babies. Omg. They should both get the unalived penalty. 😢
Did any catch that Chad was getting messages from The Temple for their plan?!
Lori was looking for demons, but all she had to do was look in the mirror. It still blows my mind what people will believe or accept so they don't have to face the guilt and judgement of their own choices. If she wasnt stopped many more people would be dead now.
RIP JJ, Tylee, Tammy, and Charles
I believe Melanie Powlowski was also involved, but I also believe Garth helped his dad, he was home the night his mom passed, and apparently never noticed anything, and Tammy said she thought at one point it was Garth with the air gun in the driveway, here in Chad's own word's " Garth is going to help me ", even if it is a little help, you can bet there's more, he'll more than likely follow in his father's footsteps, the fact these kid's see nothing wrong with this tradgedy, I guess it's all in the way your tought and raised,💯⚠️💯 RIP 🍃🙏🍃 those taken to soon,🍃 your in the arm's of the angel's, they are waiting to bring all of you home, where you belong with loved one's and to finally set you free,🍃🕯️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕯️🍃
Leave his kids out of this. The fact that you accuse his son of helping to murder and cover up the death of his mother is disgusting. You are a spectator in other peoples lives and inserting your accusations on whim. Just because you want to be part of some conversation. True crime viewers really are hitting all time lows.
How do you know Emma didn't help? Poor Tammy was in a home with people that wanted to snuff her out for the life insurance money honey! Garth was motivated by lies and money. When Chad and Lori took Garth , Emma, Leigha, Mark and the 5th child and their spouses and grandkids? I don't understand how all of them were so welcoming to the very people who killed their beloved mother!?
@@jeanP924Sadly, they did snuff out Tammy.
GARTH IS A LIL PR!CK simpleton like his father and Emma a dim witted dupe
@therealz360z7not true, women are definitely iguals. Chad on the other hand...😳
19:50 just a little storm 😂 a minuscule microscopic storm.
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A dead storm with no rough seas
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Chad is a very sick and evil 😈 individual. I finally got to listen to it without distractions. Lori should be ashamed of herself. Oh my goodness this is so sick and pathetic. All the different names. Imagine their are people like this in the world.
These have to be the stupidest two I’ve ever heard of… Nothing like telling people look at me I wanted money 🤣🤣🤣…. Neither are the sharpest tool in the shed…. But at the end of the day, they get them… Thank You Chad and Lori for helping catching you!!!!
I can't imagine what Chad's kids feel like when they hear all these text back and forth.
I was thinking that also, and if hearing those texts doesn't wake them the hell up I don't know what will😮
His kids believe him they are as delusional as him. It’s disgusting how these two acted but i feel she used Chad to get rid of her kids
@@loridavidow2014 definitely, and it wouldn't have taken her long, to have Chad disposed of as well. I would love to know if he had life insurance!!!
I wonder what Tammy's family thinks about Chad saying Tammy was inhabited by a demon named Haplos? Tammy doesn't seem like anything but a good woman.
That was Charles she was “inhabited” by a demon name le Viola. Dumbasses.
Actually Hiplos was what they named Charles Vallow and Tammy was named the dark spirit Viola!
Chad's kids support and defend him againt their mother
Love this judge.....overruled!
Hopefully, we will hear this again in Chuds trial. It will be interesting to see how Pryor approaches this if so.
Might sound a little crazy but Its crossed my mind that Melanie could still be a risk, Dangerous still. If she was so brainwashed and heavily influenced by Lori and Chad who knows if she would still think of the Dark Spirits .😮
She’s very much a risk. When she moved to rex burg, she left all her kids belongings on the sidewalk. She took nothing for her kids, yet was searching for them . Amongst all the talk of her kids being dark spirits and the Lord telling Melanie that plans were in place for her benefit, I believe her plan was to kill her kids. She should be locked up forever. Especially for her part in the attempted murder of her ex husband.
I don't get it in the name of God . who could be that crazy . what the hell is going on with the momins
I still think Lori had something to do with the de@th of her sister Stacey back in 1998. Stacey is the mother of Melanie Bourdeaux.
Funny how there was no discussion of “ death percentages” regarding Chad or Lori.
Or chads kids!
I honestly believe Chad had his kids wrapped up in these warped beliefs too.
Yep. The 48 hours episode with them made that clear
I can't wait for that guys trial because to me it sounds like he was riding a fictional book kinda-sorta but Lori was stupid enough to believe it and did everything they said he manipulated her into killing half the people in her family and his wife and she doesn't get it now he's going to throw under the bus big-time like her lawyers we're throwing him under the bus they're both guilty as heck equal cuz they both will I don't think Chad believed anything he was telling anybody but Lori believe it and so did the rest of those women I think he's been laughing at all of them all along
(36:13) How the 🔥Hell🔥 do Mormons justify this kind of delusion? Has the church ever addressed this case, under whose auspices these crimes were perpetrated?
If this religious belief system fosters crime in its name, how many more Loris and Chads can we expect to be spawned from it??
Do you know of any Mormons that justify what Chad and Lori did, because I haven't heard anybody, anywhere that does. The church holds disciplinary councils immediately upon learning of situations such as this. Chad has been excommunicated for his teachings that are contrary to church doctrine. The church excommunicates members found guilty of murder. Nothing the church teaches justifies Chad and Lori's beliefs and actions.
@@holden3 I never said anyone denounced them , there is absolutely no reason to because their beliefs were completely contrary to everything the church teaches and the church doesn't affiliate itself with apostate groups. No one supports their actions, inside or outside of the church. You can't find anyone who does except maybe a few of their disillusioned followers. Nobody is supporting any one of their twisted beliefs. And they were excommunicated for their actions and beliefs. What they did and their twisted beliefs have nothing to do with the church.
And now we have the Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt case. Does seem to be a theme with Mormons gone crazy and hurting their kids in the name of their religion. I'll note that none of these perpetrators were considered mainstream, but there are a disturbing number of Mormon extremists around.
well, there's already Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt
@@shaunhall9319 have they excommunicated Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt ??? I suspect they are complicit
This is what comes of believing in magic.
Not that I'm convinced they both actually believed it.
I can only imagine how horrified the real James & Elena would feel having been used in this manner to commit such diabolical m-rders!
Melanie Polowski is just as copable as a participant in these crimes .In fact Melanie was living next door to lori when Alex was performing his murdering crimes of both of Lori's children
Tylee spoke up that's why she's no longer alive n JJ was just in the way... I still got $4000 coming
Get a job losers
But they're divine beings! How could they possibly soil their godly hands with work? 🤣
Extreme changes are indeed coming for Chad
I think Lori and Alex started killing a long time ago, with her older sister in 1998 - Alex was the beneficiary of death benefits from that and Lori even brought her up in trial like she brought up Tammy saying she was her “best friend” and she “still talks to her all the time”. Tammy, Chad’s wife whom they killed. Lori said in her final statement at trial that she experienced a near death experience with Tylee’s birth and that she was outside her body and saw Stacey, the sister who died young of mysterious cause. I think she also killed her first husband Joseph Anthony Ryan Jr., who legally adopted Colby. Colby is Lori’s eldest, only surviving child. The couple's biological daughter, Tylee, was born in 2002. They divorced in 2005. In 2007, Lori's brother, Alex Cox, attacked Ryan, claiming he had been abusive to Lori and the children. Lori attempted to convince police and DCF that Joe Ryan abused both children sexually. She did that to get custody but fortunately, she wasn’t believed after an investigation. Not long after that, Joseph died suddenly - and I truly believe she and Alex caused it. She STILL CONVINCED HER OWN CHILDREN THAT THEY HAD BEEN MOLESTED BY THEIR FATHER. This was long before the murder of her husband Charles who was onto her and tried desperately to get help. She went on to kill her own children, Chad’s wife Tammy and I’m sure she would have killed Jj’s grandmother Kay next. Kay is the biological grandmother of JJ and the sister of Charles, who adopted JJ with Lori. Both JJ’s biological parents died - one likely died of grief after JJ was found murdered. Kay Woodcock was the payee on Charles life insurance. Lori didn’t even know he’d taken her off his policy and added Kay instead until after she and Alex killed Charles. She was absolutely livid with fury.
Lori was tired of the “obstacles” to her marriage to Chad, she kept asking him if he had determined the obstacles’ “zombie” numbers yet.
So he never said any of HIS kids were zombies? 🤔
"I feel so trapped" How does Chads children feel about this "wasting time" going to craters of the moon. Honey
His kids believe he was framed they are on his side even after hearing their own mom was killed
I've been listening to Lori's trial again in the evenings after court is over for the day in Chad's trial. I still firmly believe Chad absolutely knew he was making this stuff up as he went along and Lori pretender to believe it because it was convenient and got her what she wanted. The whole thing about MelPs child drawing 3 crosses to "draw in evil" was completely made up for one, but 3 crosses is a common Christian symbol. It represents the three crosses on the hill, one of which Jesus was nailed to.
Real live demons.
I am absolutely floored regarding the casting on the kids. This makes me want to throw up. Having been brought up Mormon and then as an adult practicing LHP Witchcraft, this is never allowed in ether tradition. Let me be clear, Lori had no right to do this to those inside her family who posed her no harm.
I am so tired of reading that Mormons don't caste on anyone. Most modern ones don't. However, some families and clandestine groups made up by self proclaimed prophets do. Its sort of like what the Amish call Hexari . I come from such a family.
This is not mainstream and is very misunderstood. The only reason I am even speaking about this is, I believe that what she and Chad did is worthy of the death penalty. I trust that members of the actual groups and societies within and outside of the Church will see to it this is addressed properly via magick.
As for the poisoning with Malachite stone, that can be very painful and is deadly. Someone need to find what is left of that anointing oil and destroy it. I would hate to see it used on anyone else. It is highly toxic in food or drink. Do not reuse the container it was kept in for those purposes.
Also, portals go both ways. Energy of that sort flows from one to another at random. I already did a little something on midsummer/St Ivan Kupala Day should anyone wish to piggy back. 93.
If anyone is a jerk, it's Lori and not Kay and Larry Woodcock. Kay and Larry seemed to love JJ so much, and they didn't kill them. Lori was all about money.
WHERE IS THE RACOON?????
How did Tammy and Chads children hear and see all this 🗑️and still decide to stand by him and blame it all on Lorri...All but one child from what i understand.😮LIKE WOW
Grab me by the storm?? Ugh
🤮🤮🤮🤣 So pathetic! These crazies were WAY too into their self-aggrandizing fantasy.
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What a prophet, wow! One that found a putely evil mom in his path and joined her in bringing hell to the family!
Sick
I'm thinking Chads senses were broken on that permanent freedom issue
If there is a hell I hope she has a place in it
Sad
Chad Daybell / statement:
That he vould not live with out her ( Lori )
Well GUESS WHAT HERE.
( DEATH PEMANLITY )
Hopefully.
I'm SO aggravated the judge wouldn't let cameras in the phone "because ld didn't want them"! She didn't want anyone to see her! Guess she thought it would help keep her from getting a hard sentence!
I grew up with a narcissistic mother like Lori and so did my baby's father.....I was assertive and emotionally expressive and stood up to her and he was passive and emotionally suppressive and became just like her....I grew up trying to be everything but like my mother and he turned into his mother by having split personality with the other personality as his mother just like Norman Bates.....so I am very thankful for this case showing an example of the delusional horror show people who live with stupid narcissistic mothers lacking self awareness like Lori go through....I survived a mother like Lori and so did my baby's father but he only survived in body so far, his mind is already destroyed by his Mother Gothel.....Lori is just like a Mother Gothel and all the Mother Gothels of the world are going extinct thanks to the internet......
Not “inhibited”. It is “inhabited”
Did these two ever have normal adult conversations?
All these sick money hungry evil ones who claim to be all about god…lmbo Chad started this whole thing a rolling, all to get rich…SO HE THINKS!
I so hope some neutral intellect will write a book about this historical crime when all is said & done. As a Christian there is much I'd like to hear from other than the Morman faith. What or where does it say in any religion that murder of your own children & spouses is rightous? I've never heard a religion that speaks of zombies either.
Looking forward to that book!
Well, Abraham was supposed to murder Isaac....
Omg omg
What killed Tammy? It must have been poisoning, right? Has it been discussed if it could be malachite? Also Alex . Wasn’t it mentioned somewhere something about Malachite healing balm?
He smothered her
Will the detective have to read from Chad's adolescent- sounding sex writings again?
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I think the reason Tylee's remains were almost destroyed was because Chad SA'd her before he killed her.
You know that’s a good point! Chad is so sick I wouldn’t doubt it
Either Chad or Alex.
@@joantinker1693 probably both of them.
Wow with that imagination you should write books😂
I wondered about that. Good God. So horrible.
I belive as much as loris trouble with men and her liking money as much as she did we all no xhad uad no money exspext for the life insurance policy they probably both would uave spent all that money lori would have eventually divorce chad too hes stupid he should have thought of that and the fact that the kids were in the media everyday woyld uave told chad they were going to get caught well loris were she belongs now in 2024 its time for chad to get his
Help me Rhonda, help help me Rhonda
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"An exhaulted goddess"
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2:10:13, could that be where they were tying JJ’s up with duct tape?
Lolli time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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"Sealed as husband and wife dor eternity" Charles was killed July 11 2019. Tammy was killed October 19 2019. Chad and Lori had sex 3 weeks after meeting. Slide 27 arrived at temple for sealing. Slide 27. July 21st 2019, So Charles had been killed but Tammy was still alive, but Chad and Lori had already got married as Storm I mean James and Elena. "2 lonely misunderstood souls" met Oct 26 2018 St George Utah then again mid November 2018 in Chandler Arizona and had sex on the couch already. "She loves it" "she was among the greatest women on earth." Both were cheating on their spouse. Charles dead 10 days. Temple records shows both Chad and Lori were sealed in Gilbert Az on Nov 16 2018. "I cant wait to be with you forever" I must say, you two will be together forever, but those times shall be in the depths of Hell with your master Satan. "I love you, you will enjoy the scenery" "my greatest desire" "on a tropical island together" married Nov 5 2019 Kaui.
Well, "spiritual" polygamy where a man is "sealed" to more than one woman is kind of a thing with Mormons. Only one wife is supposed to be alive at a time, so they kinda jumped the gun....
Women can only be "sealed" to one man, but it's cool for men to have more than one. Yay patriarchy!
Who is this woman doing the questioning? Maybe she should have taken public speaking courses because her proliferation of ums and uhs are distracting.
Scream Andrea Scream
Oct 26 2019 Chad is back in Rexburg with his Dudley family. Escapes to goddess lover
Weird stuff. Too many movies watched. Sounds like a video game. Zombie chasers.