Christmas Eve 1986: Commodore 64

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  • @user-yr1uq1qe6y
    @user-yr1uq1qe6y 17 днів тому +8

    For how many of us is our favorite Christmas memory unwrapping our very first Commodore?
    I remember it well. The first gift unwrapped was the datasette and I exclaimed “why would I need this unless…” as I reached for the bigger box immediately. 😊

  • @63801170
    @63801170 18 днів тому +4

    Whilst restlessly waiting to see if Santa was stopping by (in the middle of the night), you delivered the best Christmas present ever! Cheers for all your C64 (and more) efforts!

  • @MrEDET
    @MrEDET 18 днів тому +14

    So this game is kind of special to me. I loved it back then, fiendishly hard but somehow I just really enjoyed playing it. A couple of years later I bought an Amiga, learned to code and my first game was a remake of Christmas Eve. And now I'm 52 and still every Christmas Eve I play the c64 version again. Some weird tradition I'll keep doing every year 😅

  • @g4z-kb7ct
    @g4z-kb7ct 16 днів тому +4

    10:10 The memories come flooding back.... At that time I worked at State Engineering in Leighton which was 14kms from Cottesloe and we produced the winged keel that Alan Bond used on his yacht. There were a lot of security people and things were covered up so no one could see what was going on lol

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy 18 днів тому +25

    Sandy Munro? Could this be the great Sandy Munro that runs Munro and Associates? He runs the youtube channel "Munro Live." He's an engineer. That's a pretty unique name. And he would have been in his 40's probably when he wrote it. Now I must know!

    • @PeranMe
      @PeranMe 16 днів тому

      We need to contact him, if nothing else so he can update his version with your optimizations and bugfixes. I mean, we all assume he has a C64 connected up permanently in his home office, so he can play Christmas Eve all year, right?

    • @MrEDET
      @MrEDET 15 днів тому

      I contacted him once through Linkedin, asking if he was indeed the same, but never got a reply. So still not sure if it's indeed the same guy.

  • @myleft9397
    @myleft9397 9 днів тому +1

    "no one's ever noticed this" bug in a 40 year old type in game that the one person who typed in and played thought it sucked... Merry Christmas! Great video!

  • @andyschannel687
    @andyschannel687 18 днів тому +8

    What a great type-in game. I remember typing in games on my TI-994a when I was a kid. Thanks for making this video.

  • @bblevins
    @bblevins 17 днів тому +5

    An unexpected video for Christmas!! Woot! Thanks Robin, and Merry Christmas to you and yours!

  • @kontrarien5721
    @kontrarien5721 17 днів тому +1

    What a wonderful way to spend an hour on Christmas day. Thanks so much for the memories and a Merry Christmas to you and every viewer!

  • @CubicleNate
    @CubicleNate 14 днів тому +1

    There are just so many things I enjoyed about this video. One, Commodore 64 and for whatever reason, there is this indelible link between Christmas and Commodore 64. The sounds of the keyboard are forever linked with these memories. . Secondly, that is a great period of games. Simple and playable that just brings a smile to my face. Additionally, the Lego minifigs on the C64 is yet ANOTHER Christmas nostalgia tie that is simply fantastic. Thanks so much, Merry Christmas and I wish you the best and brightest New Years yet!

    • @8_Bit
      @8_Bit  14 днів тому +1

      Thanks Nate, Merry Christmas to you and your family!

  • @amazing8bits
    @amazing8bits 16 днів тому +2

    Great video. Loved the unexpected Christmas originals!

  • @FloppyDeepDive
    @FloppyDeepDive 18 днів тому +5

    I loved you flipping through the magazine and just talking about it! Good stuff! Merry Christmas Robin!

  • @rickhager7684
    @rickhager7684 18 днів тому +5

    Awesome song. Merry Christmas, Robin.

  • @jaydg2010
    @jaydg2010 18 днів тому +4

    Bravo! Amazing episode. Merry Christmas to you and your family. I'm inspired to go through my old magazines and search for a type in program that I think I can improve a little. Thank you for that gift!

  • @kins749
    @kins749 17 днів тому +2

    Cool video and cool little game, Merry Christmas!

  • @JimmyCall
    @JimmyCall 18 днів тому +5

    For a type in that game was well done! I hope your memories of Perth, WA, was good. Great ending.

  • @bcostin
    @bcostin 18 днів тому +1

    I loved this episode, and the music. Merry Christmas!

  • @AndyHewco
    @AndyHewco 19 днів тому +7

    Great video! Merry Christmas Robin. Just got to 48 minutes in where you adjust the thrust velocity to -0.1 on line 105, but you should also consider altering the starting value of E on line 160 or else the gravity is stronger. I think I saw a section elsewhere in the code to that increments this as levels get harder which may also need adjusting.
    BTW - love a big video at Christmas, I'd have happily stayed with you for 2 hours if you wanted to waffle on about the magazine, listing or whatever :)

    • @8_Bit
      @8_Bit  19 днів тому +6

      I think you're right! I'll look into that tonight and see what values feel best. Thanks for your support re: big videos, I probably could have gone on for another hour about the magazine :)

  • @anthimatter
    @anthimatter 17 днів тому +1

    I was 16 and the world was so much better than now. Merry Christmas mate 🎄👾

  • @MrMaxeemum
    @MrMaxeemum 17 днів тому +3

    That's not a bad type in game. I am going to play it today, both original and sooped up version. Merry Christmas to all 64ers.

  • @marcinmiklaszewski9336
    @marcinmiklaszewski9336 16 днів тому

    Merry Christmas and Happy New year from my family to yours. Thanks for what you do. I know C64 has a sweet spot in your heart as Atari 800XL has in mine.

  • @MechaFenris
    @MechaFenris 17 днів тому

    Excellent video as always. Merry Christmas! :D

  • @warrenbullock3165
    @warrenbullock3165 15 днів тому

    Great video for the festive season. Merry Christmas.

  • @TheSimTetuChannel
    @TheSimTetuChannel 18 днів тому

    Merry Christmas to you and your family!
    Thanks for all the great content!!!

  • @protox07
    @protox07 11 днів тому

    Have a happy holidays 8-Bit Show And Tell

  • @themaraudershideout3010
    @themaraudershideout3010 18 днів тому

    Merry Christmas Robin! Great content as usual and looking forward to next year!

  • @Thiesi
    @Thiesi 18 днів тому

    Merry Christmas to you & the entire 8-Bit family!

  • @grymmjack
    @grymmjack 18 днів тому +1

    Merry Christmas Robin! Happy New Year too!

  • @pietweety7020
    @pietweety7020 18 днів тому +6

    Great channel, Merry Christmas 🎉

  • @preds.bundalo5408
    @preds.bundalo5408 17 днів тому

    Thank you, Robin! That was a very interesting video and also comical. :-). Merry Christmas to you and your family! -pred

  • @giuseppe74921
    @giuseppe74921 18 днів тому +2

    It's incredible a basic 2.0 game looks and plays like an early commercial c64 game, really many compliments to the original author and to your much interesting video. I remember "Rox 64" by jeff minter was another interesting basic game that seemed almost commercial, you could analize it and try to improve it too.
    Happy Christmas Eve!

  • @raythomas4812
    @raythomas4812 18 днів тому +1

    I really miss my Commodore 64, I miss the times I had it - Lovely Video - all the best

  • @MichaelKathke
    @MichaelKathke 18 днів тому

    🌟🎄Merry Christmas and thank you Robin, for many interesting C64 shows and tells.🌟I'm sitting here wrapping presents...

  • @Arkansmith
    @Arkansmith 16 днів тому

    This makes me want to do a game mod. Maybe a gameplay trade-off. The floor is safe (but not the ceiling), but you can't shoot the sacks. Also, the "bowling pins" could move back and forth like the robots from Impossible Mission. LOVE the music!

  • @andrewgillham1907
    @andrewgillham1907 18 днів тому

    Great video Robin! Merry Christmas! I’ll be playing this game (original and your optimized version) soon. It looks quite impressive for a basic type-in game. Opening tune, thruster sound effects and decent looking game play. Nice!
    Makes me think a bit of Joust.
    Spawning somewhat randomly would be interesting in that you would potentially have to go up a few floors / tiers / levels.
    Though having a level start the sleigh at the bottom might be enough added challenge. Random spawning might not be needed. And it looks hard enough as is anyway.

  • @damiezequel
    @damiezequel 18 днів тому

    Merry Christmas Robin for all you family you are incredible in all the videos Saludt from Argentina

  • @BruceLaing-f7t
    @BruceLaing-f7t 18 днів тому

    Merry Christmas, Robin.

  • @gerasmus
    @gerasmus 16 днів тому

    13:32 My brother and i spent days typing in the code from a magazine, only to be greeted by a error message.
    We then spent days checking our code.
    Many of the magazine programs had errors.
    Since it was before internet existed, I was too unaware to debug.

  • @r000tbeer
    @r000tbeer 18 днів тому +1

    Awesome Christmas video! I'm going a couple of years into the future, playing Ultima 4 on the Vice emu.

  • @MS-ho9wq
    @MS-ho9wq 18 днів тому

    Merry Xmas, Robin

  • @chachacha1289
    @chachacha1289 16 днів тому

    Fan-tas-tic memories ! Though, in 1987 I was having an Amstrad CPC and not a C64. (Amiga I got a bit later) But I did LOVE Antiriad on the CPC. I am from France, and it is kind of amazing to see an Australian guy commenting an european magazine :)

  • @g4z-kb7ct
    @g4z-kb7ct 16 днів тому

    The touchiness of the game reminds me of the very first tape game I ever bought for my C64 back around 1984, China Miner, which required precision position before jumping otherwise it was game over very quickly.

  • @LazloNQ
    @LazloNQ 18 днів тому

    I remember going to the local grocery store to buy a current copy of RUN magazine. We hung on every word in those old magazines and learned a lot!

  • @mattwirkkala
    @mattwirkkala 17 днів тому

    Hey Robin. I'm American -- I loved Transactor too! :)

  • @donaldwiller9238
    @donaldwiller9238 18 днів тому +3

    Great job Merry Christmas 🎅

  • @kens32052
    @kens32052 18 днів тому

    Thanks for the memories. I saved the first issue of Commodore Gazette for decades, but after our last move I couldn't find it...sigh.

  • @countzer0408
    @countzer0408 18 днів тому

    We got CU in New Zealand and I had a subscription to it from 86 to 92. I used to go get it and bring it into high school so me and my friends could read it. I owned a C16 back then and wanted some type ins for it and reviews. I eventually got an Amiga A500 in 88. Good times man.

  • @GEKKOGAMES_RETRO
    @GEKKOGAMES_RETRO 17 днів тому

    merry christmas 🎉

  • @CityXen
    @CityXen 18 днів тому

    Merry Christmas!

  • @stevehiggins9351
    @stevehiggins9351 18 днів тому +7

    Gosh I remember buying this like it was yesterday... I used to love Commodore User 😃

  • @misjavanlaatum
    @misjavanlaatum 18 днів тому

    Nice! I have that very issue of Commodore User (and here in the Netherlands they were hellishly expensive!)

  • @mattwirkkala
    @mattwirkkala 17 днів тому

    I used to be able to find issues of Commodore User sometimes back in the day, but I was more familiar with their Amiga rag. :)

  • @LordmonkeyTRM
    @LordmonkeyTRM 18 днів тому

    Merry C=hristmas Robin and 8bSAT fam

  • @T8staDiM3rda
    @T8staDiM3rda 18 днів тому +3

    Anita Sinclair - that has to be a joke name for a commodore magazine 😂😂😂

    • @NemanjaVuj
      @NemanjaVuj 18 днів тому +4

      She is/was a games programmer and one of the founders - the main founder I believe - of the Magnetic Scrolls.

  • @googleboughtmee
    @googleboughtmee 18 днів тому

    Well, that got me through my annual present-wrapping session

  • @kirishima638
    @kirishima638 18 днів тому +1

    Awesome mae-ger-zine

  • @MegaFonebone
    @MegaFonebone 17 днів тому

    1983 was the Christmas I got my C64, too!

  • @bpb235
    @bpb235 18 днів тому

    I think here in the UK we had the best of the C64, we were spoilt for choice with games and magazines

  • @da5idnz
    @da5idnz 18 днів тому

    I still have that issue, and the calendar poster!

  • @paulmcc1991
    @paulmcc1991 18 днів тому

    Merry Christmas - Cottesloe is slightly north of Perth city, not south ;)

    • @63801170
      @63801170 18 днів тому

      You might be thinking of City Beach, which is just North (West) of Perth and Cottesloe is still South of Perth as it was in 1987 😉

  • @brianwild4640
    @brianwild4640 17 днів тому

    Merry Christmas robin spent the last 2 days looking thinking where is Robin’s video

  • @erichubbard7754
    @erichubbard7754 18 днів тому +6

    "I'm playing this game so you don't have to" 😂

  • @gbraadnl
    @gbraadnl 18 днів тому

    I know them only as CU Amiga. One of my favourite magzines

  • @jordyleduc5419
    @jordyleduc5419 18 днів тому

    Merry Xmas from one Canadian to another eh

  • @cret859
    @cret859 9 днів тому

    45:11 Isn't shorter and faster to make lines 160-170 into only one test and two lines?
    160 U=U+E:IFABS(U)>1THENU=SGN(U)
    170 Y=Y+U:GOTO105
    Or are the BASIC 2.0 so inefficient that calling the ABS() and SGN() functions is longer than the two IF...THEN clauses ?

  • @talideon
    @talideon 18 днів тому

    26:00 - It's surprisingly competent for a BASIC game!

  • @paulkoopmans4620
    @paulkoopmans4620 18 днів тому

    Would another thing be having a line 0 that jumps to an init section and then pull the main loop up and number all the lines 2,3,4, etc.?

  • @ligius3
    @ligius3 16 днів тому

    Interesting coincidence, Sandy (Alexander) Munro is host of the eponymous UA-cam channel where he analyses how cars and other devices are built and where cost can be reduced. I highly doubt it's the same person.

  • @joecincotta5805
    @joecincotta5805 16 днів тому

    Great memories

  • @gerasmus
    @gerasmus 16 днів тому

    Back in the day magazines were powerful, the could make or break a game.

  • @gamingtonight1526
    @gamingtonight1526 18 днів тому

    "We wish you a Merry Xmas, we wish you a Merry Xmas, we wish you a Merry Xmas, and a Happy New Year!" (Played with beeps!) Happy Xmas everyone!

  • @Markusewitz
    @Markusewitz 17 днів тому

    Regarding World Games: I'm still wondering why Epyx thought that jumping over barrels on skates is a thing here in Germany! 😄

  • @midi_in
    @midi_in 11 днів тому

    13:35 made me laugh so hard!

    • @8_Bit
      @8_Bit  11 днів тому

      Fixing a typo = crack! :) Happy New Year!

  • @TheOldgeezah
    @TheOldgeezah 18 днів тому

    Given that two subroutines are called only once, would it be quicker to include the relevent codes as part of lines 140 and 155?

  • @JLsoft
    @JLsoft 18 днів тому

    US viewers, 'Antiriad' was "Rad Warrior" :)

  • @CutieHoney
    @CutieHoney 18 днів тому

    I would remove one layer and increase the height between each layer. Then maybe every few levels/screens, decrease the height by a pixel or 2.

  • @DavidYoud
    @DavidYoud 19 днів тому +1

    Good work getting to level 4, that's a tough game.
    Also, I could totally see you picking up the banjo one of these days.
    A very merry Christmas to you and yours.

    • @8_Bit
      @8_Bit  19 днів тому +1

      Banjo could be fun :) My instrument collection is already a bit oversized though, with multiples each of bass, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, and ukulele.

  • @Vector_Ze
    @Vector_Ze 18 днів тому

    I realize that to most C64 fans it probably seems strange, but I didn't play a lot of games back then. Aside from the type-in, Oil Tycoon, there were really only two commercial games that I played (and mastered); Jumpman and Fort Apocalypse. But, I spent so much time writing programs in BASIC with some assembly subroutines that were only of interest to me that my Ex physically attacked my C64s. From cutting the ribbon cable (which I miraculously repaired) to throwing them against the wall and taking a hammer to them. My obsession probably contributed to the end of our marriage, heh. It was ill conceived anyway.
    I'm enjoying my TheC64 (maxi).

  • @CollinBaillie
    @CollinBaillie 18 днів тому +1

    Did you change the initial high score also?

    • @8_Bit
      @8_Bit  18 днів тому +3

      I removed it entirely so the initial high score is zero. That way it tracks the highest score you've achieved during the current session.

  • @j.lo.5784
    @j.lo.5784 18 днів тому

    cannot you use chat gpt to scan the code page and ocr ? but how do you get it back into the c64?

  • @wimwiddershins
    @wimwiddershins 16 днів тому

    Cottesloe is about 5km away from me. 🏖️

  • @granitepenguin
    @granitepenguin 19 днів тому +5

    pretty funny. how do you have a "cracked" version of a type-in program?

    • @8_Bit
      @8_Bit  19 днів тому +8

      Apparently by fixing a typo in a REM statement! :) To try to be fair, while CSDb categorizes this as a "C64 Crack", the credits just list "Original Supply". So this is probably a case of type-in magazine games not conforming very well to the database, so they're shoe-horned in rather than being excluded, or expanding the database categories.

  • @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266
    @weedmanwestvancouverbc9266 18 днів тому

    The basic program written on a Commodore 64 for pal actually work on ntsc?

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket 15 днів тому

      The only difference between the two Commodore 64 models is that less time is spent drawing the side borders and more is spent drawing the top and bottom ones, and that each frame stays on screen a little longer. Even the "jiffy clock" is made to count 60ths of a second in both regions. Anything that runs in pure BASIC is too slow to take advantage of the precise timings needed to exploit the framerate or border drawing time.

  • @sandcat-maurice
    @sandcat-maurice 19 днів тому

    Just started with watching and already liking it! Great work, thank you!

  • @MythRsR1979
    @MythRsR1979 17 днів тому +1

    After reading "Ready Player One" I'm fascinated by the 80's. I was a 90s teenager, but it seems like the 80s were fascinating to be young in.

    • @kontrarien5721
      @kontrarien5721 17 днів тому

      Guess I was a 90's teenager too - turned 13 in 1990. The 80's were a fantastic time to grow up! Can't help feeling like I missed out some by being so young, but it was a wonderful childhood.

  • @DerykRobosson
    @DerykRobosson 18 днів тому

    Cottesloe is more west south-west than south of Perth.

  • @walterphillips9950
    @walterphillips9950 18 днів тому

    Ha, on level 3 at the bottom, you shot and it somehow went through the first ice demon and took out the second one. I think that's a glitch

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul 12 днів тому

    If this had been a commercial game, it would have had a timer and limited fuel.

  • @VulpisFoxfire
    @VulpisFoxfire 14 днів тому

    Sometimes, optimizing a game to run faster is isn't the best choice. :-)

  • @freddymeier2697
    @freddymeier2697 18 днів тому

    Merry Christmas Robin from Scotland UK
    🎅🤶👼🏼🙏❄⛄
    You pronounced ANTIRIAD correctly first time and growing up in Scotland meant we had alot of magazines.
    I have a ZZAP64 celebrating PACLAND C64 conversion

  • @Lion_McLionhead
    @Lion_McLionhead 16 днів тому

    A sleigh which can't touch the ground is stupid. Would just get rid of that.

  • @The_Real_Grand_Nagus
    @The_Real_Grand_Nagus 18 днів тому

    It's funny they used down for fire, and then button for up. Why not just use up for up and button for fire?

  • @whitslack
    @whitslack 17 днів тому

    Is there an actual win condition, or does the game just crash if you progress to a humanly inaccessible level?

    • @8_Bit
      @8_Bit  17 днів тому +1

      As far as I can tell, the game will just continue level after level, but the difficulty (gravity changes and number of ice demons) maxes out at level 6. So levels 6, 7, and on are all identical.

  • @TheHighlander71
    @TheHighlander71 17 днів тому

    Instead of checking for (J AND 16) > 0, could you not simply check for (J AND 16)?

  • @bombfog1
    @bombfog1 18 днів тому

    Was you dad in the Canadian Military?

  • @granitepenguin
    @granitepenguin 19 днів тому +2

    It would be interesting to add an option to randomly spawn on different levels instead of always spawning on top. Of course one issue that comes from that is you might spawn on top of something so you'd also have to make sure there's no sprite collisions (eg, check the locations prior to spawning, defaulting to the top if there aren't any free spots

  • @8BitNaptime
    @8BitNaptime 18 днів тому

    But but but that code is (c) copyright 1986 (c) , three times!

  • @BenevolentChum
    @BenevolentChum 18 днів тому

    Line 110. Just delete >0. 105,115,120,140 use =.

  • @csbruce
    @csbruce 19 днів тому

    2:20 Why'd he remove most of his armour in the middle of a battle?
    42:40 You can also put a GOTO after the first of two contradictory joystick directions: the user can't both press and not press the Fire button, or press Left and Right at the same time.
    1:04:55 Wait, does that bass guitar have *five* strings? I take it there's an acoustic guitar off-screen.

    • @8_Bit
      @8_Bit  19 днів тому +1

      In Antiriad, part of the game involves finding the suit of armour, so presumably he hasn't had a chance to put on the rest of it yet :)
      Yes, that's my 5-string bass. It has an extra-low B string, below the regular E string (below in pitch, but above as far as being further from the floor). I finally make use of it in the final note of the song. And yes, the acoustic guitar (and guitar player) are off-screen :)

  • @RonHelton
    @RonHelton 18 днів тому +1

    👍👍👍👍🎄🎄🎄🎄