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  • Опубліковано 8 лис 2019
  • We are continuing our series on the Cold War period, with a documentary on the creation of the Federal Republic of Germany - West Germany.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 294

  • @varana
    @varana 4 роки тому +533

    2:48 ff: That makes it sound as if the Germans expelled from Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc., were Germans that had settled there during the Nazi occupation.
    That is mostly wrong (i.e. those were only a minority).
    For the most part, those 11-14 million were Germans who had lived there well before 1938, usually for generations. Calling the expulsion "relocating them _back_ to Germany" is a rather ... glaring misrepresentation of what happened. These people had never lived "back" in the rest of Germany.

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  4 роки тому +160

      Yep, we worded it poorly.

    • @user-fg3xw6wd6i
      @user-fg3xw6wd6i 4 роки тому +7

      How much were actually settled?
      Like, I know significant amounts were settled in the territories directly annexed to the Reich in Poland, but exactly how much were they?

    • @matthiasbindl7085
      @matthiasbindl7085 4 роки тому +30

      @@user-fg3xw6wd6i something along 11-14 million people as in the vast majority of germans that were removed were ones that had settled there centuries ago

    • @varana
      @varana 4 роки тому +10

      @@user-fg3xw6wd6i Between 1940 and 1944, over 700.000 Germans were settled in the newly annexed territories in western Poland.
      About half of these Germans didn't come from the German Reich proper but were re-settled Germans from outside Germany: The Nazis deliberately tried to convince German minorities to move to Germany (including the annexed territories), and most of them were re-settled in former Poland.
      So in January 1944, c. 370.000 Germans had been moved to occupied Poland from the German Reich. (That included areas that would become Polish shortly after, so someone moving from Breslau to Posen falls into that category, even though Breslau became part of Poland later on.) Additionally, about 350.000 Germans from regions outside of Germany had been settled in occupied Poland, mostly from Romania and the Baltic states.
      During 1944, c. 250.000 more Germans were brought to Poland - but this time from the East, i.e. refugees fleeing the advancing Red Army. Counting them as settlers is probably a bit misleading, though, as they didn't actually settle anywhere but more or less moved on to Germany right away.

    • @davidrosner6267
      @davidrosner6267 4 роки тому +54

      Silesia, Eastern Pomerania and East Prussia were part of Germany proper for hundreds of years and had an overwhelming German majority before 1945. After World War II, the borders in Eastern Europe moved west. 14-18 million Germans were expelled east of the Oder River while Poles expelled from the easternmost regions of Poland annexed by the Soviet Union resettled the former easternmost German regions annexed by Poland. The regions resettled by Poles include Silesia, Eastern Pomerania and the southern half of East Prussia. The Soviet Union annexed the northern half of East Prussia, including the city of Konigsberg renamed Kaliningrad, and resettled the region with Russians after expelling the Germans.
      The border changes after 1945 reflect the scale of population movements in Eastern Europe.

  • @MansionByBeach1
    @MansionByBeach1 4 роки тому +18

    Germans were not only expelled from areas they occupied during the third Reich. They were also expelled from areas they were living from the 1200s onwards. A big chunk of land that belonged to Germany during the Weimar republic, and had an overwhelming German majority, were given to Poland and the USSR, and were cleansed of the German inhabitants and cultural heritage. Many other areas that were part of Czechoslovakia, Poland, and Danzig pre WW2, but had significant German populations, were also similarly cleansed.

  • @Atipaj
    @Atipaj 4 роки тому +153

    lol I like how you said, "because they complained, the French got this section." love it.

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman 4 роки тому +10

      Well we have to be good at something, and beside football we're also world champions of complaining XD

    • @Chrizz06041980
      @Chrizz06041980 4 роки тому +1

      The FRG and the GDR also weren't souvereign states until 1955. So it was a similar situation. At 1957 the Saarland was given to the FRG and in mid 1959 the toll border fell also. So what is so funny for you? Lol.

    • @Atipaj
      @Atipaj 4 роки тому +3

      @@averagejoeschmoe9186 While I wouldn't go that far with the insults, I do agree how France were sore losers to Germany, a rivalry that had gone since at least the Napoleonic wars, if not further. As a Germanphile, I sympathize with how Germany was mistreated not just by France, but by everyone else really. Germany has a lot to offer, which is a the problem; they saw this new country as a threat. But hey, look at where Germany is now; got beaten pretty badly after WWII, had to pay a massive reparations, and they still came out on top!

    • @jaybadayatherockmerchant9832
      @jaybadayatherockmerchant9832 4 роки тому

      @Rafael The French aren't the only ones becoming muslims...

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 4 роки тому

      That make me smirk.

  • @mirage199
    @mirage199 3 роки тому +9

    West Germany: *tries to do anything*
    France: "NO"

  • @HistoryHustle
    @HistoryHustle 4 роки тому +125

    Interesting you guys post this on the 30 year anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall.

    • @bluedevil3765
      @bluedevil3765 4 роки тому +23

      In fact 9 november is known as "Schicksalstag" (day of fate) in Germany, because many important events in German history happened on this day: the abdication of the Kaiser and proclamation of the republic in 1918, the Beer hall putsch in 1923, Kristallnacht in 1938 and, as you mentioned, the fall of the Berlin Wall.

    • @mountainmamma1643
      @mountainmamma1643 4 роки тому

      Yeah commies go home ain't right UK

  • @Thaumazo83
    @Thaumazo83 3 роки тому +25

    9:25 Bonn (where I live and which I love) was mocked before reunification as "Bundeshauptdorf", a pun on the German word for "federal capital" (Bundeshauptstadt) where "city" (Stadt) has been replaced by "village" (Dorf). Perhaps in English it doesn't sound funny, but in German it is :D

  • @kingor8445
    @kingor8445 4 роки тому +73

    It’s important 2 point out that most of the expelled Germans were not settlers from during the Reich and had lived there for hundreds of years

  • @flaviusbelisarius7517
    @flaviusbelisarius7517 4 роки тому +100

    2:53 the vast majority of the Germans in those regions were there prior to 1938. What we did was ethnic cleansing.

    • @bernardobiritiki
      @bernardobiritiki 4 роки тому +5

      a taste of your own medicine is a good way to ensure you nevr do it again, further more it wasnt a cleasing as much a relocation

    • @flaviusbelisarius7517
      @flaviusbelisarius7517 4 роки тому +38

      @@bernardobiritiki relocation is a form of cleansing by the very definition we created when we founded the UN.
      Sins are not atoned for by making the whole world equally sinful but by seeking forgiveness and attempting to right your wrongs.
      I didn't want to use the go to Gandhi quote as it's over used and really doesn't match to the severity of the issue. Sorry about religious connotations though, didn't really have a way to avoid it

    • @user-df1ek5rc1h
      @user-df1ek5rc1h 4 роки тому

      @@bernardobiritiki that can be your opinion and there is no problem about it. But the thing is about the word "relocate" being generally inaccurate to use it here.

    • @geoffreycharles6330
      @geoffreycharles6330 4 роки тому +1

      @Ma Pa Upset?!?!? UPSET?????? Millions of people and families lost their lives in German hands without having done ANYTHING wrong. What shall those people be? Why are you supposing that Jewish, Russian, Polish, Ukrainian and other Eastern Europeans' rights have not been infringed and they have not suffered?

    • @flaviusbelisarius7517
      @flaviusbelisarius7517 4 роки тому +5

      @@geoffreycharles6330 he clearly is not saying that the rights of the innocents under German occupation were not infringed and not even denying the scale of destruction brought east. All he has said is that if you take the same action against someone that they themselves took against you (as a nation) then all you will do is create a feedback loop of hatred and possibly as far as genocide again.
      I personally feel that 1945 could and should have been the moment that our nation's came together in a second Congress of Vienna. Redrawing the map so that conflict like this wouldn't ever have been seen as justified again.
      It's kind of what the USSR did, just with massively immoral means. The ends do not ever justify the means, otherwise you take directly from the fascist manifesto.

  • @alexandrustemate4461
    @alexandrustemate4461 4 роки тому +49

    You know it's bad when the word "relocation" shows up

  • @armlovesmetal1036
    @armlovesmetal1036 4 роки тому +15

    I saw the Iron Curtain from up close due to my grandparents lived about 1 mile outside in the west. Whenever we went to visit, my parents took us to see it. It was quite frightening indeed to see barbed wire, gun towers and mine fields. I also had an opportunity travel to Berlin in 1987 before the wall fell and it looked like a prison surrounding the city. I also saw some Russian MIGs flying over our tour bus and the largest Russian military installation outside of Moscow. It was a very interesting trip and to see in a museum what extent people would go to escape East Berlin. Also saw Checkpoint Charlie and of course walked along the Berlin Wall.

  • @ahmedibrahim769
    @ahmedibrahim769 4 роки тому +25

    Splendid , I am currently taking IGCSE History and your videos are REALLY helping me out
    LOVE YOU !!!

  • @Brahmdagh
    @Brahmdagh 4 роки тому +19

    7:55 German flag looks like it symbolizes a new dawn.
    You know, because of how colors are arranged.

    • @MastaToSch
      @MastaToSch 4 роки тому +15

      From darkness, through blood, into the light. - I always liked that alternate interpretation of our flag.

    • @brouzouw
      @brouzouw 4 роки тому +3

      it reminds me more of a wildfire in the night

  • @Chrizz06041980
    @Chrizz06041980 4 роки тому +30

    There was a third Germany: The Saarland was a french protectorate from 1946 until 1957/59. The French made this because of the resources, which are there.

    • @hauntologicalwittgensteini2542
      @hauntologicalwittgensteini2542 4 роки тому +1

      Theres also a 4th 5th 6th and 7th Germany: Luxembourg Lichenstein Austria and Swotz

    • @Chrizz06041980
      @Chrizz06041980 4 роки тому +1

      @@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542 Defenetly not. In these countries is the german language is partially spoken, but they are independent souvereign countries, like its the FRG is since 1991 after the USSR had ratified the 2+4 contracts.

    • @mercomania
      @mercomania 3 роки тому +2

      The French pillaged the coal and steel during their occupation. Thankfully after the plebiscite, even in the face of French intimidation and propaganda, the Saarland voted to remain in Germany. A Plebiscite which was denied the population of Elsass.

    • @Chrizz06041980
      @Chrizz06041980 3 роки тому +1

      @@mercomania The Alsace and Lorraine area was originally part of France before it was annexed from Germany for the 1st time after the German-Franco war in 1871. So it can't be compared to the Saarland.

    • @mercomania
      @mercomania 3 роки тому +1

      @@Chrizz06041980 So the Language, culture and architecture of Elsass and Löthringen is French? My little deluded friend, bier, wurst, schinken, saurkraut, flammenküche, the very name of the towns and cities are German. The French tried to steal Saarland for the coal and steel and were kicked by the people. Let the people of Elsass have a plebiscite if you are so confident.

  • @mercomania
    @mercomania 3 роки тому +3

    Ethnic Germans inhabited large sections of Eastern Europe for centuries and not as you imply only from 1938. The vast majority lived in Öst Preußen, Schliesen, Pommern ,Böhmen and Mähren Lands taken by the Soviet Union and with Polish borders being pushed westwards by the Soviets occupying what was Eastern Poland. Many Germans in Böhmen and Mähren left in 1919 due to the Versailles Diktact and the creation of Czecho-Slovakia. In the 1945 the rest were forcibly expelled. Also ethnic Germans in Rumania and Yugoslavia were forcible expelled from areas they had inhabited for centuries.

  • @ChenAnPin
    @ChenAnPin 4 роки тому +12

    4:00 Vexillogists: "MY EYES! IT BURNS!"

  • @user-df1ek5rc1h
    @user-df1ek5rc1h 4 роки тому +16

    Happy 30 years since the fall of the Berlin Wall? Surprised how I can't find a single comment about it...

  • @Liquidsback
    @Liquidsback 4 роки тому +70

    1:16 It would be Ironic if WWIII happens, Germany remains neutral.

    • @dams6829
      @dams6829 4 роки тому +14

      Or wins it.

    • @antoninedelchev6076
      @antoninedelchev6076 4 роки тому +19

      @@dams6829 Third time's the charm

    • @MrXenon1994
      @MrXenon1994 4 роки тому +5

      The Germans are doomed to forever lose World Wars. They had their chance with the first two, but now nukes exist. No one will win that war.

    • @TheDJGrandPa
      @TheDJGrandPa 4 роки тому +1

      Or än Austrian doesnt start it ;)

    • @Kurtownia
      @Kurtownia 4 роки тому

      Everyone's neutral until they aren't.

  • @andreastveranger1331
    @andreastveranger1331 4 роки тому +2

    There was a soviet border provocation against Norway on 7 June in 1968. There were around 60-70 T-54 tanks including 6000 soviet soldiers against the garrison stationed in southern Varanger. According to the instructions they were given any violation of the border should be fired upon, but the soviets stopped 30 meters away and left the border when the confrontation ended on June 10. They also invaded Czechoslovakia during that period.

  • @Openbaarmaker
    @Openbaarmaker 3 роки тому +4

    After WW1
    US: Okay France, we've helped you out big time. What should we do with Germany?
    France: OCCUPY THE RUHR!
    Backfires dramatically
    After WW2
    US: Okay France, we've helped you out big time. What should we do with Germany?
    France: OCCUPY THE RUHR!

  • @sloppydog4831
    @sloppydog4831 9 місяців тому

    I'm obsessed with the Cold War and your channel is a treasure trove of information! And I dig the old school, by the era background.

  • @justsomeguy3931
    @justsomeguy3931 4 роки тому +2

    Well done, as always. Any criticisms I had were already pointed out. It's impossible to be perfect or cover everything, hence why I tend to say more rather than less to be sure all the details are covered and everything was said as specifically as possible. Just me tho, you do a good job with density and pacing of information

  • @blackpanda7298
    @blackpanda7298 4 роки тому +4

    i wish it was just a longer video :( now im scrabbling to find out what happens in east Germany

  • @georgedoolittle7574
    @georgedoolittle7574 4 роки тому +4

    "Bonn and Beethoven." How appropriate.

  • @clementkong8133
    @clementkong8133 4 роки тому +8

    Again, u should do an episode on the Greek Civil War.

  • @rando4065
    @rando4065 Рік тому +1

    I'm glad that newer videos don't have so many jokes

  • @noneofyourbusiness5803
    @noneofyourbusiness5803 4 роки тому +20

    What you said about the german expulsion is utterly wrong: for the most part, those who were expelled already leaved in the region before 1939 (in many cases, for centuries).

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for interesting and informative listening while I brushed my teeth and emptied the recycling lol.
    God be with you out there everybody! ✝️ :)

  • @jamesbednar8625
    @jamesbednar8625 4 роки тому +1

    good video!! I got the opportunity to visit West Berlin on an orientation tour in 1982 while stationed in West Germany from 1981-1983 & 1985-1988 while in US Army. Was station in Frankfurt and Nurnberg. While in Berlin, toured the US portion from Checkpoint Charlie and all over. Saw the Wall; the Wall Patrol (US soldier's patrolling the Wall in jeeps); and other locations. Also, got to cross into East Berlin for a day and that, in itself, was well worth the trip. Remember seeing Soviet and East German troops eyeballing us and also being followed by their security guards. Saw the Soviet war graves. Also, remember the stark contrast between the 2 Berlin's: the West was alive and vibrant while the East was bland and dismal. Also, Both sides of the Wall were quite different while the West side of the Wall had all kinds of graffiti and paint on it and the East side of the Wall was quite clean. There was a "no-man's" land on the Eastern side of the Wall of about 10 yards or (probably more/less) where, is anyone was caught in that no-man's land the East German guard towers could open fire. Also remember the East German guard towers as well - can still see the guards looking at us with binoculars and their machine guns at the ready. THANKS!!!! for the video and the memories - now I need to search for my old photos!!

  • @nordicfella8004
    @nordicfella8004 4 роки тому +6

    Any plans for doing an episode about Finland and Austria? Two countries that were in the Soviet sphere of influence when the war ended, but remained as independent and neutral democracies.

    • @Damo2690
      @Damo2690 4 роки тому +5

      Austria was patritioned in 4 as well as vienna being partioned in 4

    • @patrickdurham8393
      @patrickdurham8393 2 роки тому +1

      Finland had already taught the soviets that they weren't keen on being conquered.

  • @TheBreadB
    @TheBreadB 4 роки тому +4

    I was recently in Berlin for the celebration of the fall of the wall.

  • @migkillerphantom
    @migkillerphantom 4 роки тому +4

    "How did germany break in half? How did things get this way"
    The allies occupied some of it, the soviets occupied the rest, then they didn't get along very well and each set up their own government. Video done.

  • @crookdude2000
    @crookdude2000 3 роки тому +1

    8:24 Footage is of the Irish president somewhere between 1966 and 1973. Ireland was not an original member of the coal and steel community.

  • @vernicejillmagsino9603
    @vernicejillmagsino9603 6 місяців тому

    3:26 Benedict XVI’s former student Christoph Schonborn was born and is from Sudeten German heritage

  • @stylianosgavras8481
    @stylianosgavras8481 4 роки тому

    Your set is amazing!

  • @mann79
    @mann79 3 роки тому

    Loving the content bro

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 роки тому

    This was a pretty good video to watch. I liked it a lot. My compliments to those who made this video a reality.

  • @umaransari9765
    @umaransari9765 4 роки тому +2

    David is getting better and better by every video

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 3 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @TheTadej123
    @TheTadej123 4 роки тому +3

    i hope you will mention the Stalin note of 1952 on the issue of German unity

  • @mohamedaboelenein7727
    @mohamedaboelenein7727 4 роки тому +3

    No it didn't have much to do with germany "starting" ww, but rather destroying the main potential superpower on the Eurasian plain.
    "Those who control the heartland control the world"

  • @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4
    @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4 4 роки тому +10

    Man.. I can sympathize but France is quite spiteful when it came to Germany in the late 40s all the way to the 50s.

    • @shreyvaghela3963
      @shreyvaghela3963 4 роки тому +2

      NorthObsidianG if my country got invaded the way it did I’d be more than spiteful

    • @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4
      @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4 4 роки тому +2

      @@shreyvaghela3963 true but I also believe in cause and effect. There are events beforehand that led to things.

    • @lykuscerebros9480
      @lykuscerebros9480 4 роки тому +6

      And before the unification Germany tended to be invaded by France. Tends to happen if you have two big powers right next to each other.

    • @adrienlintz4423
      @adrienlintz4423 4 роки тому

      Germany has been at war three times against France, all in a spawn 70 years, for as many years of existence (as a unified country). Not that France is totally innocent in these wars (especially that of 1870 and the First World War), but all the same. And each time, a war with Germany is followed by its lot of atrocities committed by them (which, although not the only ones to do it, seem to be their specialty). To this must be added that France already wanted to destroy Germany (again as a unified country) during the Treaty of Versailles, but the Americans and the English told them no, which led to the Second World War ( thanks Wilson). I imagine that anyone with a neighbor like this would like nothing more than destroy it, but obviously it doesn't concern Britain or the United States, protected by the waters. Millions of French people have died or were negatively impacted by Germany during these 70 years, which may explain this "hatred".

    • @lykuscerebros9480
      @lykuscerebros9480 4 роки тому +3

      @@adrienlintz4423 And you can draw that wheel further and further back (Napoleon, French Revolutionary wars ....).

  • @kaiserredgamer8943
    @kaiserredgamer8943 4 роки тому +2

    I'm afraid this serves Germany right.

  • @alanbrookes275
    @alanbrookes275 4 роки тому

    I believe that it was the British who were instrumental in creating a French zone. The USA had declared that it would only stay in Europe for three years and Britain was worried they might be facing the USSR alone. The USA stayed longer as Truman unlike FDR rather distrusted the USSR.

  • @patrickblanchette4337
    @patrickblanchette4337 4 роки тому +3

    3:11 What comes around, goes around.

  • @blava3155
    @blava3155 4 роки тому +2

    Hi guys, I know you work very hard, but I would really appreciate it if you can put your subtitle on the video like in every video you made other than this one. Thanks!

  • @cathyreddy6297
    @cathyreddy6297 Рік тому

    Trust in callaude. Joy in rejoice! Trust in care! Rejoice.

  • @calleb1594
    @calleb1594 4 роки тому +5

    In many of the areas that germans were deported from they were 90%+ of the population and hade been living there for hundreds of years he population was then replaced.
    One example was Königsberg/ Kaliningrad. There were no Russians in that area before 1946.
    Could you not do an episode of the forced deportations in the Sovjet Union and the eastern bloc ?

  • @alejandrobenavides2443
    @alejandrobenavides2443 3 роки тому

    I know this is not related to the content, but that ia a really nice jacket.

  • @rtsgod
    @rtsgod 4 роки тому

    Dammmnnn, that is one sexy new camera or lens you got! What upgrades did you do?! AWESOME Production values!

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  4 роки тому

      Finally somebody noticed it :) Thank you.

    • @rtsgod
      @rtsgod 4 роки тому

      @@TheColdWarTV what camera/lenses did you get? :D

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  4 роки тому

      Same gear. Different color grading.

  • @AdriaSimonCoronelStrogoff
    @AdriaSimonCoronelStrogoff 4 роки тому +10

    You forgot to mention the London Agreement on German external debts, a debt relief responisble for the german economic miracle

    • @paulibaer_206
      @paulibaer_206 3 роки тому +1

      Only, this debt relief was responsible for the economic miracle. Thank you for opening my eyes. I always thought that the Marshall Plan combined with the cheap labour, a relatively highly skilled workforce, a booming housing sector and the rebuilding of the industry were responsible for the economic boom in the 1950s and 60s.
      Yes, the debt relief might have played a factor too, but only looking at this is shortsighted.
      Please don't simplify complex topics.

    • @AKAHEIZER
      @AKAHEIZER 3 роки тому +1

      Not True! 😴😉

    • @AKAHEIZER
      @AKAHEIZER 3 роки тому +1

      The Marshall Plan aid to Germany, which amounted to about $1.4 billion in the first four years, was not that dramatic in itself. Britain, France and Italy all received a larger slice of the cake. All in Loans and mandated to only buy from US, so its directly flow back to America.... or more like never leaved the Country. It accounted for 5% of Germanys GDP and the US and GB in the Years of War seized all of Germanys foreign Assets.
      All Gold, all foreign currencies reserves, all property, all production sites, all Intellectual property and so forth.
      "In 1953, it was finally established in an agreement signed in London that Germany would have to repay only a third ($1.1 billion) of its debts to the U.S. At this time, the ERP
      /Special Fund already contained DM 6 billion (then equivalent to about $1.5 billion). They paid the debt back in 1971…but out of the regular Government Budget, and let the Fund untouched for Rainy Days.
      Until today it's part of the KFW Bank for Investment into the German Economy, especially for the Middlestand (SMEs), and although to provide aid to East Germany and West-Berlin.

  • @kingdomofgarvin3432
    @kingdomofgarvin3432 2 роки тому

    Real Talk

  • @vernicejillmagsino9603
    @vernicejillmagsino9603 6 місяців тому

    Joseph Ratzinger (Future Benedict XVI) spent his life as an adult in divided Germany while he was a professor I wish some of his student has experience Berlin Wall or escape from East to West Germany because the East was Communist like Poland where his preseasor John Paul II is from and later because close collaborator as they bound to free their home countries as well as Europe while Ratzinger serves under John Paul II the wall was fallen and one of those who grew up in East of the Wall was future Chancellor Angela Merkel who became Chancellor after Ratzinger became Pope as Benedict XVI in the same of 2005 5 months ago

  • @lagofala
    @lagofala 3 роки тому

    3:45 is so satisfying to watch on repeat

  • @rlosable
    @rlosable 3 роки тому

    You missed a fun bit there: First only the Americans and British administered their zones together, forming the so-call Bi-Zone. Eventuelly the Frech allowed their zone to join as well, forming Trizonesien (a German nickname for the Trizone)...

  • @tarickw
    @tarickw 4 роки тому +2

    Okay so whats up with this channel and its relation to the great war, time ghost and the second World war channels? Is there a direct relation or is it a format copy about a new topic? (Just fyi thats fine, maybe even great, just keep up the quality)
    Also I think the host (sorry haven't yet remembered his name as with indy) could work on his delivery a bit more. The flow is sometimes a bit off or even dry and that does a disservice to the content. Still enjoying the content but that seems like a point that could(/should) be improved

    • @Southsideindy
      @Southsideindy 4 роки тому +2

      This channel has no relation to any of those channels. I no longer have any relation to the great war, by the way, having left the channel when the war ended since that was all I wanted to write and host. TG and WW2 which I do now- are under the same company banner, though.

  • @songcramp66
    @songcramp66 4 роки тому

    I wonder if it would be possible for you to make a playlist that is in chronological order or the order that you released them?

  • @Conalgal
    @Conalgal 3 роки тому

    Interesting vid. However, if you are happy talking with such animated hands you need a higher chair for greater clearance from the table top 👍

  • @maxmeggeneder8935
    @maxmeggeneder8935 3 роки тому +1

    Please cover how, in the FRG(West Germany), the KPD(Communist Party of Germany), the party that made up most of the resistence against the Nazi regime, was outlawed in 1956 mostly by the same individuals that oppressed it from 33 to 45. And that thousands of communists in West Germany were sentenced by the same judges, often in the same courtrooms, that sentenced them in Nazi times. Ex NS judges sentenced ex resistence fighters to harsh sentences and often put them into the same prison cells, that they were in after being convicted for the same crime of being a communist under NSDAP rule. None of this was coincidence, but Denazifucation was just never really practiced in the West. It practically ended after the Nürnberg trials. The western capitalist powers(especially US and UK) needed all those Nazis to keep Socialism, the socialist movement and the KPD in check.
    This part of German cold war history is never covered outside sicialist circles.

  • @Operator8282
    @Operator8282 4 роки тому +2

    Have you even changed your jacket, let alone hairstyle? I know, I know, it is for continuity...

  • @Mr.Nichan
    @Mr.Nichan 2 роки тому

    0:47 What? Am I blind?! Its' the same hairstyle! Maybe, I'm just not attuned to the ways of hair enough to notice these things. It does look like some of your hair has gotten greyer, I guess, though that might be the light.

  • @mr.tandhiswaytobe8023
    @mr.tandhiswaytobe8023 3 роки тому +1

    The French must be all like
    Sock le blue !!!!!!!!
    😂

  • @lucasjleandro
    @lucasjleandro 3 роки тому

    World Wars are like Godfather.
    The First was a great news
    The Seconds was most known
    The Third will not be that expected

  • @mann79
    @mann79 3 роки тому

    My guy

  • @btfou
    @btfou 3 роки тому

    I'm so tired of those complaining French. Only only mistake the US ever made in Europe wasn't just nuking France and de Gaulle for their ingratitude.

  • @Aschraffff
    @Aschraffff 4 роки тому +7

    You make it sound like the French were opposing for the sake of opposing.
    Unlike the US and the UK, France shares a border with Germany and suffered, as you mentioned, 3 invasions in less than a century,
    As such, it is no surprise that France wanted to avoid WW1's Versailles' mistakes and pressured to ensure permanent peace in Europe.

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS 4 роки тому +3

      Lemme guess why Allies never bothered with French opinion hmmm

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman 4 роки тому +2

      @@FlymanMS they started to bother once France got the H-bomb though...
      And dismanteled the biggest Soviet spy network in the west ("operation Farwell")

    • @Baamthe25th
      @Baamthe25th 4 роки тому

      @FlymanMS Because the Allies are moron.

  • @watermelon5255
    @watermelon5255 4 роки тому +3

    I think it's important to mention that the spd wanted to reunify Germany immediately, and they were the ones pushing for Frankfurt or Hamburg as the capital of West Germany. The soviets were in fact OK with this, wanting a demilitarised neutral Germany in a similar way to Austria. It was the western allies creating their militarised capitalist west Germany that prevented an early reunification.

    • @titisuteu
      @titisuteu 4 роки тому +4

      You obviously did not live behind the Iron Curtain to experience first hand the bolshevik duplicity. They wanted a de-industrialized Germany, which would have created unemployment. poverty and therefore an unhappy population which then could me manipulated towards a Marxist pro-soviet coup d'etat . Et voila, a new larger German democratic republic would have been the result, one that would have included all of Germany after WW2. Not to mention that an economically poor Germany could not contribute to the European trade, dragging down the economies of the other European states, which as a bonus would have resulted in poverty, and as Stalin and the bolsheviks hoped, in making the the people of those states pro-bolshevik and who knows" Maybe the whole of Europe would have become communist. Or is this precisely what you wish has happened? Are you one of the Neo-bolshevics who are infesting the universities these days and who mourns the fall of the motherland of Socialism, Soviet Russia?

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS 4 роки тому +2

      @@titisuteu Assumptions.

    • @Lucky-nv2ph
      @Lucky-nv2ph 2 роки тому

      @@titisuteu Would of been sweet justice for all of them to drown from the Soviet yoke.

    • @erich2432
      @erich2432 Рік тому

      Adenauer was right to reject Stalin's offer. He saw what happened in the Korean Peninsula, West Germany was itself in the rebuilding process as well as reconciliation with its neighbours in the 50s. 1990 was the correct time since Soviet Union was crumbling by that point. A reunification of Germany in the 50s, 60s, 70s would've resulted in a civil war and then you have your own Korea like scenario in Europe till today.

  • @funetkopio4274
    @funetkopio4274 4 роки тому

    LOLMAO @ the hair cut pun :___D

  • @donculotta1551
    @donculotta1551 3 роки тому

    Sorry but, once again, I must correct you that Germany was not a Fascist government. The differences between Nazism and Fascism are abundant and glaring. I am 49 and I have been a Fascist since 1984 when I was 12. I have a plethora of books on Fascism, socialism, communism, Capitalism, and, yes, Nazism. I do love your Cold War series and this has been my only complaint because it is inaccurate and casts Fascism in a bad light. If the sheeple would stop believing what the media keeps drilling in their “brains” and actually read Palimeri, Gentile, and Mazzini, they might see that Fascism is the ONLY ideology that does not push divisions among the people.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 роки тому +4

    Hey, we deserved recognition for our efforts too!

    • @---uf2zl
      @---uf2zl 4 роки тому +1

      No

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher 4 роки тому

      Does that include ensuring every NATO operation and program's acronyms have to work in English AND French?

  • @aliabdallah102
    @aliabdallah102 3 роки тому

    That's the best out of the two germanies.

  • @ARKOVZ
    @ARKOVZ 4 роки тому +3

    "Because they complained". They weren't invited at first because we don't want another treaty of Versailles to happen, because of their fragile ego. But them French be Frenching.

    • @Baamthe25th
      @Baamthe25th 4 роки тому

      The versailles treaty was fucked by the UK/US

  • @chaosXP3RT
    @chaosXP3RT 4 роки тому +7

    1:41 I did a report on Charles De Gaulle in High School and he was a very good president for France. He was very pushy and wanted to get France included in everything after the war (since technically French forces kept fighting after the government's surrender in 1940). That's why France got to occupy part of Germany

    • @theophrastusbombastus8019
      @theophrastusbombastus8019 4 роки тому +3

      To be fair so did other occupied countries like Poland and Norway with the difference that they fought until all their territory was occupied while the French government surrendered with a lot of fighting potential left like the navy and the colonies. Not to diminish the french that kept risking their lives for their country against the Nazis or the love De Gaulle had for his country but France obtained a lot more than other nation that suffered as much if not more.

    • @Schmidty1
      @Schmidty1 4 роки тому +2

      @@theophrastusbombastus8019 If the French didn't surrender there army would have been annihilated and tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of civilians would have died. The French did not have the naval transport and logistic capacity to get a huge chunk of their units out of France. They got what they could out before the surrender. Saying they shouldn't have surrendered ignores the reality of the situation in late 1940. Oh also, if they didn't surrender, Paris would have become Warsaw, a destroyed city. Paris was declared an open city as part of the surrender and that is why Paris is still a cultural/historical icon to this day. And of course the German general in charge of the Paris garrison after D-day refused to blow up the cities treasure defying Hitler. Furthermore, the French navy didn't actually fight for Hitler and were never planning to.

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS 4 роки тому +1

      @@Schmidty1 yet you gave your industry to Nazis. GG.

    • @Schmidty1
      @Schmidty1 4 роки тому

      @@FlymanMS I didn't give shit, I am not France in 1940... wtf are you talking about?

    • @theophrastusbombastus8019
      @theophrastusbombastus8019 4 роки тому +2

      @@Schmidty1 Yeah, not fighting for the Reich is good, but you know what would have been better? The french navy fighting for the allies.
      If France had kept his navy, airforce and what it could save of the army; if it scuttled all the depots and tanks it could; if it had fought for north africa and pulled resources from the empire...
      Sure, the surrender saved many French lives but are you sure it would have been razed to the ground?
      Oslo had not been razed to the ground and it did not surrender peacefully, the dutch royal navy and dutch colonies never surrendered but Amsterdam is still there.
      The Nazi despised the Polish which kept fighting for their city as guerrilla, Paris was a much more important industrial and economic centre, destroying it would have hut Nazi occupation efforts.

  • @KrisWustrow
    @KrisWustrow 3 роки тому

    hahaha..."France, like some troll in the comments..." LOL

  • @goldenfiberwheat238
    @goldenfiberwheat238 4 роки тому

    1:19 actually no. Jreg does

  • @FDNY101202
    @FDNY101202 4 роки тому

    Question: why wasn't Munich chosen as the temporary Capitol?

    • @david___7039
      @david___7039 4 роки тому +2

      The capital couldn't be associated with any of the occupying countries (Frankfurt was the HQ for the US forces, Hamburg and Hannover for the UK forces) so it wouldn't look like a puppet state but the capital also couldn't be a city associated to the Nazi regime, so cities like Nuremberg and Munich were out.

  • @maxwalker1159
    @maxwalker1159 4 роки тому

    Great

  • @noahbpeters
    @noahbpeters 3 роки тому

    I'm kinda sad, that he showed the 7 Million Germans from Silesia, Pommerania, East-Prussia and so on as "From Poland"

  • @ilikedota5
    @ilikedota5 4 роки тому +2

    @6:23 Franco-Prussian, WWI, and WWII?

  • @farmerdave7965
    @farmerdave7965 4 роки тому +1

    The cold war was actually WW III.

  • @kuleropa5437
    @kuleropa5437 4 роки тому

    Expelled from Poland?! Half of Poland was Germany long before WW2.

  • @Gustavogukpa
    @Gustavogukpa 4 роки тому +1

    Something I think it can be said on the DDR episode is that the DDR keep the german military tradition alive, while adopting soviet equipment. The Bundeswehr adopted american ranks with german names and american uniforms.

    • @Austerlitz-xj7fm
      @Austerlitz-xj7fm 4 роки тому

      The DDR adopted grey versions of the Soviet uniforms.

  • @herrrobert5340
    @herrrobert5340 4 роки тому

    What is the history behind the flag at 04:01?

    • @gerdforster883
      @gerdforster883 4 роки тому

      International maritime law requires a ship to fly the flag of its country, but Germany didn't have one. So the Allies decided that german ships had to fly this. It is the "C" in the international maritime signal system, but in a swallow-tail design to distinguish it from the actual signal flag.
      Japanese ships had to fly the flag for "E", also in a swallow-tail version.
      Why they chose these? No idea. Probably because they did not resemble any existing nation's flag.

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois 4 роки тому

    There was one country putting up road blocjs to German reunification. We're looking at you, France. Betcha didn't see that one coming. 😉😉😉

  • @scarybird977
    @scarybird977 4 роки тому

    It sounded like he spoke Norwegian at the beginning

  • @ReisterJP
    @ReisterJP 4 роки тому

    Germany was broken up before ww2! This is just about the 2nd time it happened.

  • @monsieurlapinot2549
    @monsieurlapinot2549 4 місяці тому

    an american who make french bashing!
    it's unbelievable😲

  • @gadyariv2456
    @gadyariv2456 4 роки тому +2

    you forgot to mention that not all german deportees relocated to these countries during the Nazi occupation. some of the ethnic german deportees "repatriated
    back to Germany lived in these countries for several generations, some going as far back to the time some of these countries were part of Prussia or the Austrian empire a hundred years earlier.

  • @hedgehog3180
    @hedgehog3180 4 роки тому

    I think you should have mentioned the concept of Stunde Null. It's a somewhat foundational concept to Germany and it's also kinda controversial.

  • @Dan19870
    @Dan19870 4 роки тому +1

    I can't help but wonder how different the world, or at least Europe would have been if the UK had followed France's lead and demanded that Germany never again be unified. Establishing nation states along pre-unification boarders, I would expect Saarland and large parts of the Rhineland to be integrated into the French Republic. However with Germany smashed into pieces, if the Cold War went hot the defense of these lands would have fell to France, Britain and the Netherlands.
    I'd actually like to see that alternate reality in which the Entente Powers command the destiny of the European Commerce Commission.

  • @creatoruser736
    @creatoruser736 4 роки тому +1

    Oh how terrible, the Germans had to clear minefields - that they laid.

  • @zantonsus
    @zantonsus 4 роки тому

    Wow

  • @manuelchocano6334
    @manuelchocano6334 4 роки тому +2

    Please talk about Guatemalan genocide, 1956 - 1986

  • @deanbuss1678
    @deanbuss1678 4 роки тому

    Keeps getting MORE interesting. Explains, to me anyway, attitude in Europe today. Particularly the EU.
    Is it true that only in our lifetime that Germany was finished being rebuilt ?
    Thanks 😁 CWC !

  • @nickmcgargill6216
    @nickmcgargill6216 4 роки тому +1

    Ohhh the times are a changin'! No longer does France complain about Germany, but now they complain about Britain 🤪😂

    • @berdre2605
      @berdre2605 4 роки тому

      How so?

    • @Thunderworks
      @Thunderworks 4 роки тому

      No one cares about Britain in France, or in Europe. Britain is just ridiculous and humiliate itself with its brexit, the UK is just a weak country now.

  • @trajan0707
    @trajan0707 4 роки тому +1

    Germany lost alot of land. Example, East Prussia is part of Russia today,,unreal.

    • @johnpoole3871
      @johnpoole3871 3 роки тому

      Well that is what happens when you lose the two biggest wars in history.

  • @jospehstalin5097
    @jospehstalin5097 4 роки тому

    This looks like a job for me.

  • @waardlafrance110
    @waardlafrance110 4 роки тому +2

    Please Obiwan Kenobi, please make people stop crying about German population displacements.
    Do they not remember the inter-community violence that they had between the German minority/majority and other populations? Didn't they see what happened during the Balkan war? At least now it's quiet.

  • @hilmansudirman9857
    @hilmansudirman9857 4 роки тому +4

    This is why diversity isn't strength. Because things like ethnic clensing will happen. Becausd human is a very tribalistic being. This is why Indonesia suffer a lot because of their diversity. This is why we have bhinneka tunggal ika just to make sure non of the other ethnic group to ever thing something funny like war of independence fod their province.

  • @toggafamai4224
    @toggafamai4224 4 роки тому +3

    Given what the Germans had gone twice to the French, they had every right to demand.

    • @Delta2414
      @Delta2414 4 роки тому +3

      Maybe read up on French history before embarrassing yourself by making uneducated statements...

  • @oslonorway547
    @oslonorway547 4 роки тому

    I beg to differ. He looks better now than when we first met him. ... Stop listening to your wife's opinion 😂