Lati@s, Pursuit & Game Balance

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  • @nyx-lm8ec
    @nyx-lm8ec 2 місяці тому +111

    I would've been so unbelievably tilted in that first game

    • @qweschuning
      @qweschuning 2 місяці тому +8

      Tilted from which perspective? Because the person with hera threw if they had a 100 acc move. If not they were using less than 100 acc moves...

    • @finndavies5415
      @finndavies5415 2 місяці тому

      @@qweschuning it was prolly band

    • @BigMamaGamer
      @BigMamaGamer 2 місяці тому +22

      @@finndavies5415you can see it healing with leftovers lol

    • @IrrelevantPride
      @IrrelevantPride 2 місяці тому +17

      It's like a 3% chance to miss back to back megahorns, sure it can happen but I'd be annoyed missing it. It's not like heracross has any other bug stab option to use over mega horn.

    • @finndavies5415
      @finndavies5415 2 місяці тому +2

      @@BigMamaGamer oh yeah sorry im dumb lol

  • @brunomartinboix9197
    @brunomartinboix9197 2 місяці тому +36

    I was just rewatching the iconic classic "The power of pursuit" when I get a notification of a new pursuit video, hell yeah!

  • @Saltyape0
    @Saltyape0 2 місяці тому +45

    0:00 Great 2 turns to start the video with💀

  • @webster1211
    @webster1211 2 місяці тому +12

    With steel no longer resisting Ghost and the removal of pursuit, ghost types are basically the new dragon types

  • @dream_weaver6207
    @dream_weaver6207 2 місяці тому +11

    No way hera hit all those megahorns and dodged thunder para just to miss the last one

  • @pujo1227
    @pujo1227 2 місяці тому +24

    did u know that mega latias can eat a crunch from max atk adamant mega ttar AND sand chip with just max hp? 💀💀

    • @Legogreens
      @Legogreens 2 місяці тому

      Wouldn't that make reflect viable especially if they choose to pursuit on the reflect ? I don't play mega metals much to know

    • @Jasmine11112
      @Jasmine11112 Місяць тому

      252+ Atk Tyranitar-Mega Crunch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Latias-Mega: 294-348 (80.7 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after sandstorm damage

  • @tempestgreen1125
    @tempestgreen1125 2 місяці тому +18

    Gen 9 UU player here!
    Latias is currently UUBL, however many (including me) disagree. Latias, Blaze, and Iron hands all got banned at the same time, and even back then you could argue it was only iron hands that was truly broken. In the current meta Latias would probably be nowhere near close to broken and could safely be unbanned.
    Latios is an excellent Pokémon, and was top 1-3. It’s got so many good sets like choiced, cm, even LO with recover is a pain for fat teams. The council put out a poll to determine whether latios or garchomp should be suspected first and chomp won it, which lead to its ban. However latios still had enough votes to earn its own suspect test. However this was disrupted when iron boulder dropped to UU, which has hurt latios’s place in the meta (and may just be straight up broken)
    Now, the interesting part is in the event of a latios ban, the council is willing to unban Latias to fulfill latios’s positive defensive traits. Whether this happens remains to be seen but it’s a pretty cool thought

    • @williamjewell6247
      @williamjewell6247 2 місяці тому +4

      I don't understand a world where base Latias is considered more broken than base Latios

    • @karmazz5009
      @karmazz5009 2 місяці тому +7

      @@williamjewell6247 if you're curious why its because Latias was banned for its CM cheese sets, which Latios can't replicate as well because of it's worse bulk and not having access to draining kiss.

    • @nexenojustice552
      @nexenojustice552 Місяць тому

      @@williamjewell6247Stored Power is busted when you can easily get off a Calm Mind + Agility thanks to natural bulk

  • @PKMN649
    @PKMN649 2 місяці тому +15

    My favorite thing about the Latitwins is that as the generations go on Latias gets progressively better than Latios despite Latios getting a bunch more and more offensive moves.

    • @arkelon
      @arkelon 2 місяці тому

      Why is latias getting better?

    • @midnightemerald
      @midnightemerald 2 місяці тому +4

      @@arkelonbulk to set up, use utility moves, or just kill faster monsters by tanking through them

  • @victorrivas3223
    @victorrivas3223 2 місяці тому +9

    gastly was banned in gen 8 lc and many people want to suspect it in gen 9 lc because it's too strong ever since they removed pursuit and it was never thought of as a broken mon before pursuit, not even in dpp

    • @Interiorcrocodilealigator10838
      @Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 2 місяці тому +1

      I’ve tried cooking w/ haunter in SV. Prob like the 6th best nfe.
      Chansey, bisharp, primeape, duraladon, dusklops, yup haunter. And he’s the only guy who wouldn’t be usin evio lite. Maybe dura.
      Choice, trick, dbond, hex for glisc, pain split? Wisp?

  • @skeche5038
    @skeche5038 2 місяці тому +7

    After gen 7 Dragapult stole its spotlight as a fast Dracoing Dragon type

  • @Mixxium
    @Mixxium 2 місяці тому +4

    I've loved the Lati twins in gens 6 and 8, but in gen 9 I think it's really just because you're usually running pokemon that can easily resist or negate draco's, like iron valiant or gholdengo, and then trade, and usually you can't outspeed an iron valiant even with scarf

    • @Mixxium
      @Mixxium 2 місяці тому +2

      Sorry, I should also mention, Iron Valiant runs booster energy as an item, which is consumed on switch in for a 1.5x boost to your highest stat. So trick is like, "sure buddy"

    • @Mixxium
      @Mixxium 2 місяці тому +1

      But the more I think about this, A Tera Fire Latios with Specs:
      Draco
      Surf
      Psychic
      And Tera Fire sounds scary

  • @Interiorcrocodilealigator10838
    @Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 2 місяці тому +3

    I’d like to see BKC spend extensive time malding between scar vio OU, nat dex OU.
    Scar vio: no sleep, no Archaladon, there’s Ghold, pult, king gambit
    Nat dex: everyone gets their moveset back. Arch, and water urshifu are legal but other 3 got clapped. Megas, Z, very much easier to choose terra between up to 4, and not 6.
    Like the reverse of why I don like vgc. Just pick 1 team of 6, for 1 guy.

  • @LotusTheWise
    @LotusTheWise 2 місяці тому +6

    yo cool vid. i wonder why she doesnt speak to me tho.

  • @Alg3br4
    @Alg3br4 Місяць тому +2

    The reason why no one uses Specs Future Sight Latios seems to be fairly straightforward: Tapu Lele exists. Its own Future Sights become even stronger due to the Psychic Terrain it sets up for itself.
    And if one isn't planning to use such a Latios set, they might be better off just using Dragapult instead, who is faster and has a much more spammable Ghost STAB (as opposed to Psychic).
    -definitely didn't steal this info from FSG's Latios vid xd-

  • @siddhantkamble9502
    @siddhantkamble9502 2 місяці тому +3

    If I recall correctly future sight with specs will only be boosted if the user of the move is out on the turn the fs hits.

  • @theimpersonator7086
    @theimpersonator7086 2 місяці тому +7

    Honestly Pursuit should come back, or Ghosts could do with another resist(ideally a type that skews Special because Willow).

  • @cosmicdissonance9888
    @cosmicdissonance9888 2 місяці тому +1

    How wonderful that I should be party to a legion of fricking nerds that keenly anticipates your haphazard and ambiant genre of rambling

  • @gucciha777
    @gucciha777 2 місяці тому +2

    Impeccable timing

  • @gregorymirabella1423
    @gregorymirabella1423 2 місяці тому +5

    Well the problem with future sight is that it doesn't get a specs boost unless a mon with specs is on the field when it hits. So specs latios won't get boosted damage unless it comes out at the right time. You can exploit this though by having glowking use future sight and then switch to a specs keldeo or something to threaten out any dark or steel types and boost the power of the future sight.

  • @aerochrome_glow
    @aerochrome_glow 2 місяці тому +2

    In gen 8 OU it's mostly that why would you ever use a Lati over Tapu Lele or Blacephalon

  • @g3neralrevan27
    @g3neralrevan27 2 місяці тому +1

    can you do a video on Groudon/Kyogre's team structures across the gens, or interesting quirks of building with them? It's neat in gen 3 ubers that you can throw Sun on a rain team to have a Thunder pivot, etc. I'm also curious how old SpDef Groudon is, seems like that's a relatively newer development? Happy to hear your thoughts and if I'm completely wrong

  • @EclipseonPMD
    @EclipseonPMD 2 місяці тому +5

    I really like pursuit. It's a unique move that has been a heathy addition to many generations of Pokémon. Besides maybe magnet pull, I think pursuit is the most balanced trapping mechanic. But I'm very biased because my favorite Pokémon abuse pursuit.

    • @theimpersonator7086
      @theimpersonator7086 2 місяці тому +1

      Limited trapping is fairly healthy for singles imo. Like if Arena trap only trapped Rock and Steel types, or Shadow tag only trapped Ghost and Dark types, they would be fine.

  • @leoambard3134
    @leoambard3134 2 місяці тому +2

    in gen 8 latios get revenge killed too easily to make it worth using. its defensive value is also a lot lower than past gens. latias has similar issues

  • @nSenuh
    @nSenuh 2 місяці тому +15

    BKC

    • @pumas222
      @pumas222 2 місяці тому +5

      True

    • @peterh2223
      @peterh2223 2 місяці тому +4

      perhaps

    • @duelme1234
      @duelme1234 2 місяці тому +2

      KF....wait what are we talking about again?

  • @Interiorcrocodilealigator10838
    @Interiorcrocodilealigator10838 2 місяці тому +2

    between standard and nat dex. It’s either lele, and -40bst aegi, or Ghold and pult for competition or nuisance for latios.
    Imma try specs sight latios.
    Latios in SV, I like him on rain. Archaladon got banned and latios can effectively pull the same moves. Draco’s, steel/Psy stab, electro shot:thunder.
    W/ specs dragapult finally being outta trend. The time for latios stocks would be now. Tho agility would have to be mandatory. Only walking wake would be creepin up on you for goin modest.
    Scarf ain lettin u beat an iron valiant, a roaring moon, only pult.
    It’s not even latios on the SV speed tier. It’s iron moth. Worse bulk, higher spa, for moth it’s booster or boots. For latios it’s choice, LO.
    1 UU Mon I’m liking in OU rn is greninja. Get your kill and you get to join the ranks of the top of speed, otherwise, your still faster than pult w/ modest. Ur outspeeding Eleki if ur Timmy. Smokin on that DeoS pack.
    Spend the terra dark, ur now smackin harder than SM Ash gren ever could, w/o a z move ofc, but what’s 1 turn vs more dark pulses.
    And I thought meow was the only trick spikes guy. But nah gren can too.

  • @smallman9787
    @smallman9787 2 місяці тому +2

    BKC you need to listen to Despondent Transponder by Fleeting Joys, you'll know why in the first ten seconds

  • @8000Brutto
    @8000Brutto 2 місяці тому +1

    could you make a video, on what you think are "objectivly" the best teams. i know something like this doesnt exist, but a team you think can pretty much handle everything if played right. gen4 ou! :D
    also is there a video about your finals in the dpp ou tournament form jirachee`?

  • @shady8045
    @shady8045 2 місяці тому +1

    obviously too late now but a good april fools idea would have been analyzing one of Mr Beasts battles.

  • @birthdayninjah
    @birthdayninjah 2 місяці тому +1

    Banded Kaiju's Choices 🤔

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC 2 місяці тому +1

    A lot of the balance decisions are made for in game, but like, a lot of them don't affect in game at all. Then some must be for VGC... but the recovery nerf this gen clearly wasn't for VGC and I don't think it was in game either. Really weird game.

  • @ShortyWithThe40
    @ShortyWithThe40 2 місяці тому +4

    #FreeLatios

  • @hansoskar1911
    @hansoskar1911 2 місяці тому +4

    Ttar (with the sand boost) would be a great psychic answer if pursuit wasnt around or even specal. There are no pokemon that love to switch into Stone Edge.
    I really love how they made more and better setup mons and moves and then they made a mechanic that gives free setup and or every pokemon perfect coverage.
    The coverage thing annoys me. you can feel the power creep more when there is no real tradeoff between power and coverage anymore.

  • @internetguy7319
    @internetguy7319 2 місяці тому +3

    Pursuit was a cheap full-counter to two types of the game which forcibly nerfed them, not by just not having strengths, but by trapping. Lame as fuck.

    • @Forged4War206
      @Forged4War206 2 місяці тому +9

      It definitely nerfed Psychic-types pretty badly when they were already a mediocre type to begin with, but you can REALLY feel the lack of Pursuit with Ghost-types being so damn OP now. Removing Pursuit while also buffing one of the best types in the game and then not introducing more counter play to balance out the removal of Pursuit was wack. Ghosts are basically the new Dragon.

    • @internetguy7319
      @internetguy7319 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Forged4War206My response is instead they should just make Ghost types balanced instead of relying on a trapping move

    • @siddhantkamble9502
      @siddhantkamble9502 2 місяці тому +4

      Pursuit was also used to remove non psychic weaks btw.

    • @Forged4War206
      @Forged4War206 2 місяці тому +2

      @@internetguy7319 I would agree with that, but so far they’ve only been continuing to buff Ghost-types so somebody at GameFreak must really like them or something 😂