This is what boggles me so much almost every time. The Advent Children story had so much potential too, its just that the way it was told was.... forget it.
You guys forget that Zack and Sephiroth were friends, Zack didn't fight to kill, he couldn't believe how much Sephiroth changed. On the other hand, Cloud sneaked from behind and stabbed Sephiroth. Of course he was able to beat him, Sephy burned his home town and killed his mother, his hatred was to overwhelming. I don't think it's about Zack vs Cloud, because if you look at it from the outside, Cloud has all of Zack's techniques and has perfected them...Zack never had the chance because he died :) Cheers.
!? Sephiroth jumped with Jenova to the mako pit? Do I need to interpret this as another attempt to make Sephiroth look more badass because he can't be defeated by an adrenaline-rushed Cloud? Oh please. For all the people that have never played FF7: what really happened is that Cloud threw Sephy after he stabbed him. Sephiroth was injured but still overconfident of his own abilities and supposed Cetra heritage. He would have expected this last effort from a SOLDIER like Zack, but never from an infantry guy like Cloud. Still the animation is great.
I will never forgive them for changing the scene at the reactor, Cloud throwing Sephiroth in the reactor (instead of jumping by himself, as shown here) was one of the biggest HOLY SHIT of my childhood, it totally blew my mind because at the time they where telling the truth about how weak Cloud was, yet he still managed to do something incredible badass, fuck them for ruining it.
I fully agree. The original scene is the best scene in the entire FF series IMO next to a certain world changing event in FFVI. The music and the timing was flawless.
DeAryian Pointer. Nope. Cloud was never ever a first class soldier. Never. He thought he was coz he had only woken up and his memories were blurry, and Zack had changed his Mako soaked clothes into a first class soldier'a uniform he had found in the Shinra Manor. And Zack is stronger than Cloud. He has always been. Cloud was not even part of soldier. He was only a simple infantryman. But becayse of his sword skills, people believed that he was indeed a first class soldier.
Based off facts Cloud is stronger. He wasnt orginally, like you said he only made infantry. But i guess getting soaked in mako and surviving caused him to equal or exceed 1st class powers. I love Zack, i think he was an awesome character and less moody or fucked up in the head than Cloud. But fact remains, Zack could never defeat Sephiroth, cloud has done it twice.
David Martin Well, I wouldn't use that to say he's stronger than Zack. I mean, don't get me wrong, AC Cloud or FF7 end game Cloud is indeed stronger than Zack yes, but Cloud has only beaten Sephiroth in a straight up fight once (maybe twice like you said if you count the battle at the center if the mind thing they did). I mean, Sephiroth has never really given it his all against Cloud alone. Cloud at the very least had 7 people to back him up to fight Sephiroth in FF7. Cloud got a sneak attack bonus, and instead of skewering Cloud when he had the chance, Cloud got pissed and tossed him into Mako (I'm going by the original). In terms of pure skill, Cloud has never bested him...at least that's what I think. Sorry, I know, old comment but...bleh!
Shaiye Gray What?! He never gave his all against Cloud? You call sending a comet across the universe to destroy your opponent not giving it your all? Pfff...
You know, you just gotta respect Zack. Can you imagine how much courage it must take to be able to walk into a room knowing that the strongest ShinRa soldier ever is awaiting you who is also out for blood. Not only that but he was the only person who could actually put up a fight against Sephiroth.
I'm going to try and make this brief: SOMEONE, *cough* Square *cough* Enix *cough* REALLY needs to remake Final Fantasy VII along with Crisis Core, an actual return of Sephiroth (*VII-2!?!?*), and possibly a playable Advent Children, Before Crisis, and an actual good version (if possible) of Dirge of Cerberus (for starters, switch between Vincent, Cloud, Tifa, Yuffie, etc, and have Genesis as an alternate final boss/ending) all in HD like we thought VII would happen at PS3's launch. -They just re-released *Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD* and *Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD,* and compared to their masterpiece FFVII, KH and X are relatively new! Plus, they just made their *third FFXIII* game with Lightning having Cloud's gear. We all know how poorly received XIII was, and I'm not even sure about XIII-2 or Lightning Returns. Let's not even mention X-2. -And by VII remake, I mean incorporate KH/FFXV's awesome Battle System, and maybe add extras like KH: Final Mix has; ie make those caped "remnants" bosses like Kadaj, make the Sapphire Weapon a boss, add ties to the FF/KH universe, etc. -And by VII-2, I mean have Genesis and Sephiroth terrorize the planet again already. Who gives 2 hits and a flying fluck about that wannabe Weiss/Nero? Well, I don't because I'm probably never going to touch that thing. -Why? Why are they still making KH1 spin-offs that are either boring or a rehash of the first game (Chain of Memories,) overly extended (356/2 Days), utterly pointless (Coded,) or include cuddling pink fluffy-flucks to level up (Dream Drop Distance.) Enough procrastinating. Kingdom Hearts 3? Final Fantasy VII HD?? VII-2??? I'm surprised "XV" isn't going to be delayed further: "Final Fantasy XV[XIII-Versus] started production shortly before its announcement in May 2006." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XV 8 years and no release date, nor do we get the well-received Agito outside of Japan. Someone needs to be fired. I don't want to be 50 years old by the time these happen, or worse, have the developers be dead before then or have video games go extinct. I just beat Crisis Core, and now I want to kick ass as Cloud in HD action God-dammit, and I'm not talking about Dissidia. But maybe that's the reason right there: maybe nobody cares about VII anymore because developers think players either "grew out of them", or are too young to have played them. Maybe the same is true for XV and KH3: those games might be considered "outdated" and forgotten because they were lost in time, and if they ever do come out, they might fall a bit short, like Duke Nukem Forever, and all of those could-be great DBZ games, Playstation All-Stars, and to some extent Smash Bros Brawl. Maybe this is the generation for anyone born in the 80's-90's to give up on those and either stop gaming, or focus on upcoming titles like CoD4: MW4, part 2 section 3 Black Ops Edition, instead of Star Wars Battlefront 3 and Powerstone 3. A part of me could cry. Nah, it's just a game: A game that could have been great.
I find it strange that a big company like Square Enix would struggle with staff count and funds to relaunch Final Fantasy VII. If anything, it should be easier since everything has already been laid out, and thus not as much creativity will be required, whereas much more effort would have to be done for games from scratch, like Kingdom Hearts DDD, 1.5, and Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns, XIV, and now XV. Further, how would they struggle with characters' hair being brunette? They already made characters with lots of hair in recent titles, and I don't see how color would affect it's difficulty much, if at all, especially when they already made brunettes in their games, like Squall, Rinoa, Yuna, Lulu, Sora, Kairi, Xion, Terra, Fang, and Noctis. Perhaps darker hair requires a certain "gleam" to reflect light, etc compared to blonde, but that should not hold them back. I don't think anyone even likes Cait Sith, but it is funny that he is holding the game back once again. I've seen a FFVII for the computer on youtube, but it looked exactly like the original except certain sprites were slightly improved, comparable to the final battle sprite of Cloud when he does Omnislash being more detailed than Cloud's normal sprite.
So it's the color of the hair that's so difficult to manage? I guess now I have a lot more respect for brunettes. Still, we're talking about the remake for VII. I'm sure they know that it would be their number one seller, right next to XV. It wouldn't be for some game rehash; it would be for *THE GAME REHASH.* Let's not forget what games they just released: KH 1.5 & FF X/X-2 HD. They also released rehashes of the early FF titles on the DS, yet there has been none for VII. Too much pressure perhaps? Nah...It should be much easier to make than their recent titles. Their main concern should be for graphics and gameplay alone, because the story, characters, and setting have already been panned out. They need to just get over their hair problems, and knock it out. I like your allusion to the book, though I'd say it's more similar to translating a book from one language to another, or perhaps adding in more details and descriptive scenes, because the story has already been created; it just needs to be updated and re-released. VII-2 would be closer to your example. They did a great job with Crisis Core, although it's gameplay was somewhat repetitive, even though the actual game was relatively short apart from Missions/Quests. Was that made by their current staff, or the ones that went to Capcom? I would be happy enough to see VII treated similarly, though a bit more refined. Besides, ever since VII, Square has always released games with some of the greatest graphics, so, again, it feels like graphics should be no problem. XIII and DC seemed to have both suffered sales because of linear/simple gameplay and possibly poor characters, but were praised for their graphics. In another world, I could see Square Enix merging with Capcom to give us titles like Final Fantasy vs Capcom, and Final Fantasy: T-Virus Apocalypse. Don't you agree? I'm gonna go fry some fish, because now you've made me hungry. Some tender but crispy BBQ Salmon would be nice.
What is their Magnum Opus? I'm terrible at hoping; I have no faith. Hoping has never worked or have done me or anyone any good. I could say I was hoping I might have hope after these comments, but I don't want to disappoint myself further. I'd rather just assume that Final Fantasy VII HD is the game that we deserve, but not the game that we need.
OmegaPyron Sorry for replying 3 weeks later, but firstly to the last line, there is a HD version of FF7 for the pc. (do note that Hd and remade graphics are totally different!!). But the big difference between them doing KD 1.5 and X/X2 is that all they were doing was putting it in HD. FF7, for what you're wanting and everyone else would be wanting, they'd have to redo all the graphics from scratch. Yes they'd have it laid out on what they'd look like and everything, but they'd still have to redo all of it and then animate it. You'd then have to do all the voice acting, I'd assume that wouldn't take THAT long though. The world map would have to change in some way or it just wouldn't fit in a current day design. Is that it?
"Final Fantasy XVI is... released in Japan on December 17, 2017, and March 9, 2018 for North America and Europe - both of these the same as Final Fantasy XIII. A sequel titled Final Fantasy XVI-2 was announced on E3 2018. Further sequels including Final Fantasy XVI-3, Final Fantasy XVI-4, Final Fantasy XVI-5 and Final Fantasy Finis XVI have been released." -finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Coolawits/Final_Fantasy_XVI Now, I'm not sure if this is a joke by "Coolawits" or legitimate news, and if it is legetimate... ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR MIND!?!?! Six different FFXVI games?? It would be a millenium until FFVII was remade, and unless FFXVI-FFXVI-6 >> FFVII in terms of EVERYTHING: . __ ' ? '===O'===' , . _ /\ _/\ _ . , ^ Pyron is not amused
+iceluvndiva21 Well he believes in a taking his mummy (which, for the record is a manipulative alien parasite living in a jar) to the magical land that will make him a god by crashing a planet sized meteor into the earth.... Naaaaaaaah perfectly sane.
Zack Fair is my favorite video game character of all time, was a fan even before this little short movie came out. Movie made him just right, a laid back badass.
She was a teenager back then. This was 5 years before the game if my memory doesn't fail me. In the game Tifa and Cloud were 21 years old so here they were 15-16.
@Gabriel Anderson, that is so true and I say it all the friggin time. Squaresoft was better as Squaresoft, then again that was the Golden Era of RPG's.
i dont know why it took me so long to find this. but this is awesome! i was stoked to see the final scene but it just ended.. owell, i saw it on crisis core anyway haha
Love the fact that they took some of the music from Last Order into Crisis Core, it made me happy :) I'm a sucker for Musical Nostalgia. I'd love an HD remake of the original sometime, maybe along the Action Rpg setting like Crisis core did, I love the freedom you feel with it. But hell, its probably my number 1 since its the first one ive ever played, I love the FFVII universe the most, I hope Square will turn their game around with XIV tho, I miss that Gameplay and Freedom of the oldies
Everyone has there favorite, some manner in which they related to it. Most people find VII is the best, I personally love VI. Kefka was a much more sadistic bad guy, and actually accomplished more, while the game had a larger set of characters all with unique background stories tied in somehow. VII is my second fav, followed by IX.
Man I love this special for so many reasons 1 This animation is fucking slick even on 480p youtube video this still looks good 2 Zack being a cocky badass, still couldn't wise crack his way out of a sniper shot tho 3 All that Shrina and turk stuff was dope... 10:56 I never thought I'd see a flip flop in Final Fantasy 4 Tifa is the hottest, her scene with Cloud is so sweet, I put Tifa before Aerith any day... 9:40 did Sephiroth's slash make her breasts grow? 5 Sephiroth is the classic evil momma's boy, man he's sounds so evil you think people would catch onto it. 6 Cloud seems to only care about avenging his village and getting his dick on with Tifa. Which is fair enough 7 Hojo is creepy bastard, Zack doesn't know when to shut the fuck up (I mean Cloud just lost everything) and Sephiroth needs like Aerith needs to watch his back.
***** I do, and probably more than you. Final fantasy is a huge franchise, of course there is going to be merchandise, but there's really nothing that would constitute as "milking" it.
Well, I got into the FFVII franchise only 3 years ago, and I have become a huge fan! I would love to buy all of the merchandise and the games! So I do believe that they still can make money from the FFVII franchise, seeing as the some of the newer generations also discovers it! Anyway, have a great day/morning/evening/night!
The writing here is terrible... everything here is terrible... Well that's anime. People can complain about Crisis Core all they want, but at least Sephiroth didn't just up and decide to jump inside the fucking mako reactor after muttering something about the promised land.
If you played the game it would make more sense. The mako reactors plug into the "lifestream" Which is the source of all magic and life force on the planet. Sephiroth jumped(well, ok, in the game he was thrown in, but the end result was the same) in to merge with the lifestream so that he could corrupt the planet and take it over. The black materia gives him control over gravity, so he could use the entire planet as a vessel to travel from planet to planet throughout the cosmos, stealing all of the life energy and becoming a god incarnate. There's a lot more to the story in addition to that, but this is the gist of it.
Ankoku15 I did play the game. Everything gets reabsorbed into the lifestream. That's why it's the lifestream. I think there was a little bit more to his plan than just jumping into the aqua colored goo. If it were really that simple, then Sephiroth's plan still wouldn't work. He would have to contend with all the other "souls" in the lifestream. I don't remember everything well though.
JCDBionicman Ah, well he is a Cetra, remember? They have power over the lifestream and can preserve their consciousness in it like Aerith did. Sephiroth stole Jenova's head to merge with the cells because it gave him enough power to make that plan work. Jenova was the most powerful of the Cetra and it was her plan originally to take over the planet and merge with its life force.
Ankoku15 no, Jenova is not a Cetra, it was an alien that came from a distant planet that brought calamity to the planet, so the ancients/ Cetra battled it and sealed it away until it was discovered by scientists.
***** Cloud experienced it, so he knows, unless he was Mako poisoned and got his memories all messed up again. Hey Cloud, when is FFVII-2 coming out?? At least tell us when FFVII HD is coming out, or when you and Sephiroth are going to appear in Kingdom Hearts 3. I must know. Don't tell me you got it all mixed up again...
you play as zack in the events leading up to his death in ff7. it also gives so nice background info on how zack obtained the buster blade and the history of jenova
I wonder how many people thought the girl with Rude in the helicopter was Elena and not her older sister Emma (Gun)... Also, since the gameplay of Before Crisis I watched had Freyra (Shotgun) as the main character, it's kind of weird seeing her not give a rat's ass about Zack and Cloud. Although we all know it was Cissinei who let Zack and Cloud go, and this film kind of confirms that the main Turk character is mostly Alvis Crisis (Rod) since he answers to Reno's "new guy."
At first I thought the title was talking about Cloud's last day working at the fast food restaurant....but then I remembered, that was from Robot Chicken.
This just brought back memories of playing Crisis Core. I didn't even know this existed. XD Sephiroth is still, and will always be, the greatest antagonist ever. ^_^
@Quizerno It contradicts the flashbacks in the game, that may be why. Zack wasn't at Nibelheim, Tifa found her father in the reactor, and Cloud was there when Sephiroth threw Tifa down the stairs. But I agree that this short film is pretty cool anyways.
@squirtPandorica It looks that way for a second, but it's just the light shining on his face. If you look at his mouth, he's actually smirking at Cloud.
There's a pretty solid english fandub you can find, however they mirrored the video to avoid them getting a copyright strike, so you may have to play a non-mirrored video at the same time and mute it to listen to the english dub properly.
The ending was perfectly dead on simply because it cuts to a black screen only allowing the viewer to reminisce the scene where he's shot down by the three who leave him for dead. In Final Fantasy VII he leaves Cloud. You can't see the fight, but you can hear it. Then he comes back to check up on him before get popped from afar. They unload several rounds in him when he's down. In Crisis Core he fights a battalion alone until he can't anymore. And of course 3 soldiers give the final blow.
Okay, someone clear something up for me. The timeline in this show go like this: The village burns. Zack goes after Sephiroth. Cloud comes in to finish the job. Both Zack and Cloud are put into the mako tanks. Zack breaks them out 5 years later (I think 5 years). And the starting of the show is with Zack and trance state Cloud escaping the village.
This is it. Just this. The chronology is as follows: Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII (cellphone game) Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (for the P.S.P.) Last Order: Final Fantasy VII (happens kinda at the same time as Crisis Core) Final Fantasy VII (for the P.S. 1) On the Way to a Smile (series of novellas) Final Fantasy VII: Advent Childern Complete (movie) Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII (for the P.S. 2) Upcoming Final Fantasy VII game that closes the compilation.
How could this possibly get negative feedback from the fans!? im sure everyone here enjoyed it, but hell, it practically followed the story exactly how the original game described it. Im glad they added the full ending of Zack's death in crisis core, but I also wish there was more interaction with cloud before the nibelheim incident, something that would make them feel more like best friends, its interesting to so how many times cloud copies zack tho, specially with Aerith. God id love an Hd Rem
@1997MonkeyDLuffy the real reason is because of the mako poisoning that Cloud had when he came out of the test tube thing. He took in what ever he could, which is why he barely remembers who he was until he met Tifa,again, then he just meshed the two together.
It doesn't cost as much money to just have people translate it than hiring new voice actors for the english one. Its an English sub, like half of Funimation's videos have them
The same actor voices Zack in Crisis Core (Japanese version of course) In my honest opinion, these voices suit the characters so much better than the English dub, but hey that's my opinion.
Thought you were referring to Sephiroth in the video. I wondered where '1/3 power' came from! Makes sense now! I'd always just thought of either of those three having the potential to become Sephiroth once they'd attained Jenova's Cells. He seemed just as powerful, he was knocking Cloud around quite a bit. Advent Children didn't make a whole lot of sense anyway, so I wouldn't argue any real point on it.
The Outcome of the First Battle within Cloud and Sephiroth was Retconed, In Crisis Core: FFVII the events take place in a similar fashion as they do here. Also in FFVII:Advent Children Complete, Sephiroth makes a references to cloud being stabbed like that "again" The original game did not have the graphic quality to pull this scene off, same like what happened when the Buster Sword design was retconed in Crisis Core
So. Much. WIN!!!!! The bit where Sephiroth just threw Zack out of the room and he slammed into one of the containers, I was thinking, "Well, THAT had to hurt.
@mckinght12 Limit breaks are feats performed through anger as denoted at the end fight of part seven as Clouds limit gauge grows just by being in the presence of Sephiroth. It could also be thought of this way because of the effects of Hyper giving the "Fury" status which increases the speed the Limit gauge fills. I.E. Zack being the pissed bad ass he is can use it on the door and then again in fight.
In case some people haven't noticed, When I played crisis core I found out that the only reason he was all emo was because he spent a little too much time in materia which can deprive you of emotions
I think it was just to show that Cloud had some dormant, hidden power of his own before all the mako infusions that happened later. There was something inside him that made him able to somehow overcome Sephiroth, which should have been impossible for him.
@TNEsupersayianslayer actually, the mako poisoning (jenova cell poisoning, to be more accurate) from hojo's experimenting in cloud hindered his ability to create new memories coherently for the time being, making him remember himself as zack. zack was fine because he was already infused with pure mako, making him immune because the amount of mako overwhelmed the jenova cells and killing them off. cloud was an infantryman, so he was never exposed to any enhancments. sorry if you already knew
In the regular ff7, there's a secret cutscene that show's some parts with zack that don't add up with Last Order. Also stuff like sephiroth doesn't jump in the mako, he gets thrown into it by cloud. Another is Tifa's dad was killed where cloud killed sephiroth, not outside of the mako reactor. Just stuff like that I would assume.
I concur with Xirazu on this. Having not played FFVII until as recently as a year ago, I was surprised to find out that it was NOT overrated! It was genuinely one of the best games I've played, even with the graphics being what they were. But you're welcome to prefer other games if you like.
they should make a final fantasy 7 long ongoing anime, starting from crisis core to ff7 ending. I see so much potential!
and Final Fantasy VII: Dirge Of Cerberus
wingscancer have every one back story in there
yeah!
This is what boggles me so much almost every time. The Advent Children story had so much potential too, its just that the way it was told was.... forget it.
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You guys forget that Zack and Sephiroth were friends, Zack didn't fight to kill, he couldn't believe how much Sephiroth changed. On the other hand, Cloud sneaked from behind and stabbed Sephiroth. Of course he was able to beat him, Sephy burned his home town and killed his mother, his hatred was to overwhelming. I don't think it's about Zack vs Cloud, because if you look at it from the outside, Cloud has all of Zack's techniques and has perfected them...Zack never had the chance because he died :) Cheers.
Zack is/was so amazing. I knew he looked after Cloud, but wow. He's like the perfect big brother.
!? Sephiroth jumped with Jenova to the mako pit? Do I need to interpret this as another attempt to make Sephiroth look more badass because he can't be defeated by an adrenaline-rushed Cloud? Oh please.
For all the people that have never played FF7: what really happened is that Cloud threw Sephy after he stabbed him. Sephiroth was injured but still overconfident of his own abilities and supposed Cetra heritage. He would have expected this last effort from a SOLDIER like Zack, but never from an infantry guy like Cloud. Still the animation is great.
I will never forgive them for changing the scene at the reactor, Cloud throwing Sephiroth in the reactor (instead of jumping by himself, as shown here) was one of the biggest HOLY SHIT of my childhood, it totally blew my mind because at the time they where telling the truth about how weak Cloud was, yet he still managed to do something incredible badass, fuck them for ruining it.
remeber that too, it was better when cloud impaled more deep the sword of sephiroth and throw him down
Apparently they learned from their mistake here and changed it back to Cloud throwing him into the reactor in Crisis Core.
Yea I think it was perfect the first way, but it probably wouldn't look right in modern time or in animation.
I fully agree. The original scene is the best scene in the entire FF series IMO next to a certain world changing event in FFVI. The music and the timing was flawless.
i didnt undertanded this shit either - when sephiroth jumped by himself it was more believable
i want more this ep!
In addition to Cloud already being a badass, this movie made that fact even more evident, but also Zack was hardcore too! Thanks for the upload man.
1:06 activating combat mode
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1:31 Conflict Resolved XD
Cloud must've found a sneak attack materia
DeAryian Pointer. Nope. Cloud was never ever a first class soldier. Never. He thought he was coz he had only woken up and his memories were blurry, and Zack had changed his Mako soaked clothes into a first class soldier'a uniform he had found in the Shinra Manor. And Zack is stronger than Cloud. He has always been. Cloud was not even part of soldier. He was only a simple infantryman. But becayse of his sword skills, people believed that he was indeed a first class soldier.
Based off facts Cloud is stronger. He wasnt orginally, like you said he only made infantry. But i guess getting soaked in mako and surviving caused him to equal or exceed 1st class powers. I love Zack, i think he was an awesome character and less moody or fucked up in the head than Cloud. But fact remains, Zack could never defeat Sephiroth, cloud has done it twice.
David Martin Well, I wouldn't use that to say he's stronger than Zack. I mean, don't get me wrong, AC Cloud or FF7 end game Cloud is indeed stronger than Zack yes, but Cloud has only beaten Sephiroth in a straight up fight once (maybe twice like you said if you count the battle at the center if the mind thing they did). I mean, Sephiroth has never really given it his all against Cloud alone. Cloud at the very least had 7 people to back him up to fight Sephiroth in FF7. Cloud got a sneak attack bonus, and instead of skewering Cloud when he had the chance, Cloud got pissed and tossed him into Mako (I'm going by the original). In terms of pure skill, Cloud has never bested him...at least that's what I think. Sorry, I know, old comment but...bleh!
Shaiye Gray
What?! He never gave his all against Cloud? You call sending a comet across the universe to destroy your opponent not giving it your all? Pfff...
***** I'm talking about one on one fights. And I'm sure he didn't send that meteor JUST for Cloud.
Jenova Cells, that's why Cloud is strong!
One minute into this and already I wish I could like this a thousand times.
You know, you just gotta respect Zack. Can you imagine how much courage it must take to be able to walk into a room knowing that the strongest ShinRa soldier ever is awaiting you who is also out for blood. Not only that but he was the only person who could actually put up a fight against Sephiroth.
I'm going to try and make this brief: SOMEONE, *cough* Square *cough* Enix *cough* REALLY needs to remake Final Fantasy VII along with Crisis Core, an actual return of Sephiroth (*VII-2!?!?*), and possibly a playable Advent Children, Before Crisis, and an actual good version (if possible) of Dirge of Cerberus (for starters, switch between Vincent, Cloud, Tifa, Yuffie, etc, and have Genesis as an alternate final boss/ending) all in HD like we thought VII would happen at PS3's launch.
-They just re-released *Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD* and *Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD,* and compared to their masterpiece FFVII, KH and X are relatively new! Plus, they just made their *third FFXIII* game with Lightning having Cloud's gear. We all know how poorly received XIII was, and I'm not even sure about XIII-2 or Lightning Returns. Let's not even mention X-2.
-And by VII remake, I mean incorporate KH/FFXV's awesome Battle System, and maybe add extras like KH: Final Mix has; ie make those caped "remnants" bosses like Kadaj, make the Sapphire Weapon a boss, add ties to the FF/KH universe, etc.
-And by VII-2, I mean have Genesis and Sephiroth terrorize the planet again already. Who gives 2 hits and a flying fluck about that wannabe Weiss/Nero? Well, I don't because I'm probably never going to touch that thing.
-Why? Why are they still making KH1 spin-offs that are either boring or a rehash of the first game (Chain of Memories,) overly extended (356/2 Days), utterly pointless (Coded,) or include cuddling pink fluffy-flucks to level up (Dream Drop Distance.) Enough procrastinating. Kingdom Hearts 3? Final Fantasy VII HD?? VII-2??? I'm surprised "XV" isn't going to be delayed further:
"Final Fantasy XV[XIII-Versus] started production shortly before its announcement in May 2006." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XV
8 years and no release date, nor do we get the well-received Agito outside of Japan. Someone needs to be fired.
I don't want to be 50 years old by the time these happen, or worse, have the developers be dead before then or have video games go extinct. I just beat Crisis Core, and now I want to kick ass as Cloud in HD action God-dammit, and I'm not talking about Dissidia.
But maybe that's the reason right there: maybe nobody cares about VII anymore because developers think players either "grew out of them", or are too young to have played them. Maybe the same is true for XV and KH3: those games might be considered "outdated" and forgotten because they were lost in time, and if they ever do come out, they might fall a bit short, like Duke Nukem Forever, and all of those could-be great DBZ games, Playstation All-Stars, and to some extent Smash Bros Brawl. Maybe this is the generation for anyone born in the 80's-90's to give up on those and either stop gaming, or focus on upcoming titles like CoD4: MW4, part 2 section 3 Black Ops Edition, instead of Star Wars Battlefront 3 and Powerstone 3. A part of me could cry. Nah, it's just a game: A game that could have been great.
I find it strange that a big company like Square Enix would struggle with staff count and funds to relaunch Final Fantasy VII. If anything, it should be easier since everything has already been laid out, and thus not as much creativity will be required, whereas much more effort would have to be done for games from scratch, like Kingdom Hearts DDD, 1.5, and Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns, XIV, and now XV.
Further, how would they struggle with characters' hair being brunette? They already made characters with lots of hair in recent titles, and I don't see how color would affect it's difficulty much, if at all, especially when they already made brunettes in their games, like Squall, Rinoa, Yuna, Lulu, Sora, Kairi, Xion, Terra, Fang, and Noctis. Perhaps darker hair requires a certain "gleam" to reflect light, etc compared to blonde, but that should not hold them back. I don't think anyone even likes Cait Sith, but it is funny that he is holding the game back once again.
I've seen a FFVII for the computer on youtube, but it looked exactly like the original except certain sprites were slightly improved, comparable to the final battle sprite of Cloud when he does Omnislash being more detailed than Cloud's normal sprite.
So it's the color of the hair that's so difficult to manage? I guess now I have a lot more respect for brunettes. Still, we're talking about the remake for VII. I'm sure they know that it would be their number one seller, right next to XV. It wouldn't be for some game rehash; it would be for *THE GAME REHASH.* Let's not forget what games they just released: KH 1.5 & FF X/X-2 HD. They also released rehashes of the early FF titles on the DS, yet there has been none for VII. Too much pressure perhaps? Nah...It should be much easier to make than their recent titles. Their main concern should be for graphics and gameplay alone, because the story, characters, and setting have already been panned out. They need to just get over their hair problems, and knock it out. I like your allusion to the book, though I'd say it's more similar to translating a book from one language to another, or perhaps adding in more details and descriptive scenes, because the story has already been created; it just needs to be updated and re-released. VII-2 would be closer to your example.
They did a great job with Crisis Core, although it's gameplay was somewhat repetitive, even though the actual game was relatively short apart from Missions/Quests. Was that made by their current staff, or the ones that went to Capcom? I would be happy enough to see VII treated similarly, though a bit more refined. Besides, ever since VII, Square has always released games with some of the greatest graphics, so, again, it feels like graphics should be no problem. XIII and DC seemed to have both suffered sales because of linear/simple gameplay and possibly poor characters, but were praised for their graphics.
In another world, I could see Square Enix merging with Capcom to give us titles like Final Fantasy vs Capcom, and Final Fantasy: T-Virus Apocalypse. Don't you agree?
I'm gonna go fry some fish, because now you've made me hungry. Some tender but crispy BBQ Salmon would be nice.
What is their Magnum Opus?
I'm terrible at hoping; I have no faith. Hoping has never worked or have done me or anyone any good. I could say I was hoping I might have hope after these comments, but I don't want to disappoint myself further. I'd rather just assume that Final Fantasy VII HD is the game that we deserve, but not the game that we need.
OmegaPyron Sorry for replying 3 weeks later, but firstly to the last line, there is a HD version of FF7 for the pc. (do note that Hd and remade graphics are totally different!!). But the big difference between them doing KD 1.5 and X/X2 is that all they were doing was putting it in HD. FF7, for what you're wanting and everyone else would be wanting, they'd have to redo all the graphics from scratch. Yes they'd have it laid out on what they'd look like and everything, but they'd still have to redo all of it and then animate it. You'd then have to do all the voice acting, I'd assume that wouldn't take THAT long though. The world map would have to change in some way or it just wouldn't fit in a current day design. Is that it?
"Final Fantasy XVI is... released in Japan on December 17, 2017, and March 9, 2018 for North America and Europe - both of these the same as Final Fantasy XIII. A sequel titled Final Fantasy XVI-2 was announced on E3 2018. Further sequels including Final Fantasy XVI-3, Final Fantasy XVI-4, Final Fantasy XVI-5 and Final Fantasy Finis XVI have been released."
-finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Coolawits/Final_Fantasy_XVI
Now, I'm not sure if this is a joke by "Coolawits" or legitimate news, and if it is legetimate...
ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR MIND!?!?!
Six different FFXVI games?? It would be a millenium until FFVII was remade, and unless FFXVI-FFXVI-6 >> FFVII in terms of EVERYTHING:
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Pyron is not amused
Anyone else thinks sephy needs a head check?
sephy? suddenly he seems much less threatening
no - its zack need it
+iceluvndiva21 Well he believes in a taking his mummy (which, for the record is a manipulative alien parasite living in a jar) to the magical land that will make him a god by crashing a planet sized meteor into the earth.... Naaaaaaaah perfectly sane.
Zack Fair is my favorite video game character of all time, was a fan even before this little short movie came out. Movie made him just right, a laid back badass.
She was a teenager back then. This was 5 years before the game if my memory doesn't fail me. In the game Tifa and Cloud were 21 years old so here they were 15-16.
@Gabriel Anderson, that is so true and I say it all the friggin time. Squaresoft was better as Squaresoft, then again that was the Golden Era of RPG's.
Zack is such a badass!
no he is just stupid bitch
Eriksigal Raven
In Soviet Russia, Bitch is you!
i dont know why it took me so long to find this. but this is awesome! i was stoked to see the final scene but it just ended.. owell, i saw it on crisis core anyway haha
Love the fact that they took some of the music from Last Order into Crisis Core, it made me happy :) I'm a sucker for Musical Nostalgia. I'd love an HD remake of the original sometime, maybe along the Action Rpg setting like Crisis core did, I love the freedom you feel with it. But hell, its probably my number 1 since its the first one ive ever played, I love the FFVII universe the most, I hope Square will turn their game around with XIV tho, I miss that Gameplay and Freedom of the oldies
To bad it's not in English I like Cloud, Zack and Sephiroth's voice in English
no
+Christian Harris piss off, sub nazi
+FilthyCasualkai lol what's wrong with you
Are the SOLDIER pants really leather?
Did he cut three dudes into oblivion?
Everyone has there favorite, some manner in which they related to it. Most people find VII is the best, I personally love VI. Kefka was a much more sadistic bad guy, and actually accomplished more, while the game had a larger set of characters all with unique background stories tied in somehow. VII is my second fav, followed by IX.
I love Clouds voice it fits so well
Man I love this special for so many reasons
1 This animation is fucking slick even on 480p youtube video this still looks good
2 Zack being a cocky badass, still couldn't wise crack his way out of a sniper shot tho
3 All that Shrina and turk stuff was dope... 10:56 I never thought I'd see a flip flop in Final Fantasy
4 Tifa is the hottest, her scene with Cloud is so sweet, I put Tifa before Aerith any day... 9:40 did Sephiroth's slash make her breasts grow?
5 Sephiroth is the classic evil momma's boy, man he's sounds so evil you think people would catch onto it.
6 Cloud seems to only care about avenging his village and getting his dick on with Tifa. Which is fair enough
7 Hojo is creepy bastard, Zack doesn't know when to shut the fuck up (I mean Cloud just lost everything) and Sephiroth needs like Aerith needs to watch his back.
4.If Tifa got hurt,will you be happy to see her show up with scar or deformity handicapped?
Happy? No way. but even if she was scarred or handicapped she still be the hottest.
Tifa > Aeris *everyday*
Mate EVERYONE knows that JENOVA is the hottest babe in ff7.
I want an open-world Version 2015 for ps4. But I think the cash-cow ff7 is finally dead. 😢
Far from it. Still making money.
Cash cow? Lol, none of the entries in the Compilation of VII have been cash grabs, and even Dirge wasn't supposed to a FFVII game in the first place.
***** I do, and probably more than you. Final fantasy is a huge franchise, of course there is going to be merchandise, but there's really nothing that would constitute as "milking" it.
Well, I got into the FFVII franchise only 3 years ago, and I have become a huge fan! I would love to buy all of the merchandise and the games! So I do believe that they still can make money from the FFVII franchise, seeing as the some of the newer generations also discovers it! Anyway, have a great day/morning/evening/night!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR UPLOADING THIS VIDEO "bows"
aww ur loved by me for this lil film!
The writing here is terrible... everything here is terrible...
Well that's anime. People can complain about Crisis Core all they want, but at least Sephiroth didn't just up and decide to jump inside the fucking mako reactor after muttering something about the promised land.
If you played the game it would make more sense. The mako reactors plug into the "lifestream" Which is the source of all magic and life force on the planet. Sephiroth jumped(well, ok, in the game he was thrown in, but the end result was the same) in to merge with the lifestream so that he could corrupt the planet and take it over. The black materia gives him control over gravity, so he could use the entire planet as a vessel to travel from planet to planet throughout the cosmos, stealing all of the life energy and becoming a god incarnate.
There's a lot more to the story in addition to that, but this is the gist of it.
Ankoku15
I did play the game.
Everything gets reabsorbed into the lifestream. That's why it's the lifestream. I think there was a little bit more to his plan than just jumping into the aqua colored goo.
If it were really that simple, then Sephiroth's plan still wouldn't work. He would have to contend with all the other "souls" in the lifestream.
I don't remember everything well though.
JCDBionicman Ah, well he is a Cetra, remember? They have power over the lifestream and can preserve their consciousness in it like Aerith did. Sephiroth stole Jenova's head to merge with the cells because it gave him enough power to make that plan work. Jenova was the most powerful of the Cetra and it was her plan originally to take over the planet and merge with its life force.
Ankoku15 no, Jenova is not a Cetra, it was an alien that came from a distant planet that brought calamity to the planet, so the ancients/ Cetra battled it and sealed it away until it was discovered by scientists.
***** Cloud experienced it, so he knows, unless he was Mako poisoned and got his memories all messed up again.
Hey Cloud, when is FFVII-2 coming out?? At least tell us when FFVII HD is coming out, or when you and Sephiroth are going to appear in Kingdom Hearts 3. I must know.
Don't tell me you got it all mixed up again...
that ending sent chills down my spine
thanks 4 the upload, im a FF7 fan
love it!!
you play as zack in the events leading up to his death in ff7. it also gives so nice background info on how zack obtained the buster blade and the history of jenova
And so good ol' Sephiroth and lovely Jenova went straight to Israel
cant wait for the compialtion to continue!
Thanbks for sharing
There should be a series, or at least several movies, this is pretty awesome.
*tears* I love Zack and Cloud, their friendship, their loyalty, their courage... heroes to the very end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EPIC!
I like that the music is slightly based on Crisis Core battle music.
I never noticed they used music from this in Crisis Core. Pretty sweet.
***** Crisis Core was released in Japan September 13th, 2007. Last order was released September 14th, 2005.
I stand uncorrected.
***** Everyone makes mistakes, no worries.
WOOO!! I JUST LOVE WATCHING ZACK FIGHTING! AMAZING! I FEEL AMPED UP
I wonder how many people thought the girl with Rude in the helicopter was Elena and not her older sister Emma (Gun)...
Also, since the gameplay of Before Crisis I watched had Freyra (Shotgun) as the main character, it's kind of weird seeing her not give a rat's ass about Zack and Cloud. Although we all know it was Cissinei who let Zack and Cloud go, and this film kind of confirms that the main Turk character is mostly Alvis Crisis (Rod) since he answers to Reno's "new guy."
lol I love how Cloud and Zack's hair defy gravity ^-^
i love this version. so badass
@AzumangaFan13 The song that he sings in is called ray of hope
At first I thought the title was talking about Cloud's last day working at the fast food restaurant....but then I remembered, that was from Robot Chicken.
This OVA it´s a good resume of the most important part of crisis core
This just brought back memories of playing Crisis Core. I didn't even know this existed. XD Sephiroth is still, and will always be, the greatest antagonist ever. ^_^
I could not agree more
I've watching this a lot, I'm still love it. I love Final Fantasy.
Zack was the Hero :)
@Quizerno It contradicts the flashbacks in the game, that may be why. Zack wasn't at Nibelheim, Tifa found her father in the reactor, and Cloud was there when Sephiroth threw Tifa down the stairs. But I agree that this short film is pretty cool anyways.
@squirtPandorica
It looks that way for a second, but it's just the light shining on his face. If you look at his mouth, he's actually smirking at Cloud.
Man, Zack was dope as hell.
Watching this after Crisis Core makes this ova sweeter the second time around.
There's a pretty solid english fandub you can find, however they mirrored the video to avoid them getting a copyright strike, so you may have to play a non-mirrored video at the same time and mute it to listen to the english dub properly.
I wish Final Fantasy VII had characters songs... I bet their songs would be amazing
damn, how I love Final Fantasy :-D
pure epicness :D
Knew what the ending of CC was... still cried at the end.
Crisis Core = Fave game. Zack Fair = Favorite game character. Sephiroth = Favorite game villain.
im happy seeing this again. the feels!*A*
The ending was perfectly dead on simply because it cuts to a black screen only allowing the viewer to reminisce the scene where he's shot down by the three who leave him for dead. In Final Fantasy VII he leaves Cloud. You can't see the fight, but you can hear it. Then he comes back to check up on him before get popped from afar. They unload several rounds in him when he's down. In Crisis Core he fights a battalion alone until he can't anymore. And of course 3 soldiers give the final blow.
@Bentiger98 Oh thats what happened! Thanks i was wondering that the entire time i was watching this! that helps a lot.
It leads onto the events that you see in crisis core i do believe ( but i wont spoil it )
Totally agree. He is such a great character, and his development is awesome!
The tests done on him in the Shinra mansion not only involved Jenova cells, but high doses of mako infusion as well.
Okay, someone clear something up for me. The timeline in this show go like this:
The village burns. Zack goes after Sephiroth. Cloud comes in to finish the job. Both Zack and Cloud are put into the mako tanks. Zack breaks them out 5 years later (I think 5 years). And the starting of the show is with Zack and trance state Cloud escaping the village.
Totally agree with you
i love how the FFVII series go with my live and still there is no final end near
Wow, the scenes look almost exactly like Crisis Core, and the same music! =D
damn, how I love Final Fantasy :'-D
This is it. Just this. The chronology is as follows:
Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII (cellphone game)
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (for the P.S.P.)
Last Order: Final Fantasy VII (happens kinda at the same time as Crisis Core)
Final Fantasy VII (for the P.S. 1)
On the Way to a Smile (series of novellas)
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Childern Complete (movie)
Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII (for the P.S. 2)
Upcoming Final Fantasy VII game that closes the compilation.
How could this possibly get negative feedback from the fans!? im sure everyone here enjoyed it, but hell, it practically followed the story exactly how the original game described it. Im glad they added the full ending of Zack's death in crisis core, but I also wish there was more interaction with cloud before the nibelheim incident, something that would make them feel more like best friends, its interesting to so how many times cloud copies zack tho, specially with Aerith. God id love an Hd Rem
Madhouse Studio did the animation for this OVA, a very successful japanese anime studio.
@1997MonkeyDLuffy the real reason is because of the mako poisoning that Cloud had when he came out of the test tube thing. He took in what ever he could, which is why he barely remembers who he was until he met Tifa,again, then he just meshed the two together.
:D i just got final fantasy vii on pc :D im loooving it, i never got to play it when i was younger.
awesome
It doesn't cost as much money to just have people translate it than hiring new voice actors for the english one. Its an English sub, like half of Funimation's videos have them
If it weren't for Genesis, he would still be the best friend that everyone wanted. DAMN YOU!
Thanks
The same actor voices Zack in Crisis Core (Japanese version of course) In my honest opinion, these voices suit the characters so much better than the English dub, but hey that's my opinion.
Thought you were referring to Sephiroth in the video. I wondered where '1/3 power' came from! Makes sense now! I'd always just thought of either of those three having the potential to become Sephiroth once they'd attained Jenova's Cells. He seemed just as powerful, he was knocking Cloud around quite a bit. Advent Children didn't make a whole lot of sense anyway, so I wouldn't argue any real point on it.
The Outcome of the First Battle within Cloud and Sephiroth was Retconed, In Crisis Core: FFVII the events take place in a similar fashion as they do here. Also in FFVII:Advent Children Complete, Sephiroth makes a references to cloud being stabbed like that "again"
The original game did not have the graphic quality to pull this scene off, same like what happened when the Buster Sword design was retconed in Crisis Core
I agree gray!
This is awsome.
GREAT :D !
So. Much. WIN!!!!!
The bit where Sephiroth just threw Zack out of the room and he slammed into one of the containers, I was thinking, "Well, THAT had to hurt.
I can’t believe this hasn’t been taken down
@mckinght12 Limit breaks are feats performed through anger as denoted at the end fight of part seven as Clouds limit gauge grows just by being in the presence of Sephiroth. It could also be thought of this way because of the effects of Hyper giving the "Fury" status which increases the speed the Limit gauge fills. I.E. Zack being the pissed bad ass he is can use it on the door and then again in fight.
In case some people haven't noticed, When I played crisis core I found out that the only reason he was all emo was because he spent a little too much time in materia which can deprive you of emotions
I cried during this part of crisis core
the fair boy is here! (:
I think it was just to show that Cloud had some dormant, hidden power of his own before all the mako infusions that happened later. There was something inside him that made him able to somehow overcome Sephiroth, which should have been impossible for him.
@TNEsupersayianslayer actually, the mako poisoning (jenova cell poisoning, to be more accurate) from hojo's experimenting in cloud hindered his ability to create new memories coherently for the time being, making him remember himself as zack. zack was fine because he was already infused with pure mako, making him immune because the amount of mako overwhelmed the jenova cells and killing them off. cloud was an infantryman, so he was never exposed to any enhancments. sorry if you already knew
Oh, makes sense.. :3
In the regular ff7, there's a secret cutscene that show's some parts with zack that don't add up with Last Order. Also stuff like sephiroth doesn't jump in the mako, he gets thrown into it by cloud. Another is Tifa's dad was killed where cloud killed sephiroth, not outside of the mako reactor. Just stuff like that I would assume.
wow! a tribute! i haven't passed thr game 'cause i got stuck in the jungle tempe thingy
I concur with Xirazu on this. Having not played FFVII until as recently as a year ago, I was surprised to find out that it was NOT overrated! It was genuinely one of the best games I've played, even with the graphics being what they were.
But you're welcome to prefer other games if you like.
Cool, Sephiroth!
im totally agree with you, the thing that me and almost everyone love from zack and cloud its the true friendship between they