3SGE BEAMS Powered TOYOTA GT86 | SA's First!!! | E6
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2021
- The way Toyota should have made the GT86 from the factory, with a Dual VVT-i BEAMS 3SGE engine. The two-liter engine capacity and the front engined, rear wheel drive design just benefits from adding this engine.
Owner Kurt Sampson and I agree that this engine just wakes the car up and power at the moment is sitting at a respectable 160 Kw and 220 Nm on Dynotech's dyno. The engine is stock and the drive by wire throttle is working as well as the DUAL VVT-i. Startup date for this car is on the 27th April 2020 which (to our knowledge) makes it the first successful completed conversion in this chassis in South Africa.
Hope you guys enjoy the video, I have added some tire-smoking fun throughout the video so be sure to watch all the way(Kurt has awesome car control) and I found myself laughing in the passenger seat. No doubt this 3S-GE conversion has added a massive element of fun to the already dynamic chassis.
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Even though the BEAMS makes about the same power as the stock engine, it just looks, sounds and feels right in that chassis, feels more legitimate to the ae86 lineage...
Yeah it's just nice to see how the alternative would have been, it's just loads of fun. Believe me and I tried to bring that across in the video. 🤝🤝🤝 Glad you enjoyed it.
Trust me, there's nothing the same about the power band characteristics. the FA20 is an absolute snooze-fest up to redline, while the BEAMS is very flat and progressive with how power comes on and becomes increasingly savage the more you rev it out.
Definitely, it sounds more better using itbs
I'll never forgive em for sticking a shitty subaru boxer in something that should've had a high strung inline 4, such a damn shame
The way this car shouldvd came from the factory..
Totally!!! 🤝🤝🤝
Agreed!
Nah. Yanks would say they should've had LS engines from day 1.
@@snmrz this yank thinks ls1s belong in corvettes and camaros along with custom built tube frame race cars/trucks!
@@scottchelmford7136 well maybe we're both the minority.
Still coming back to this video in 2024.
This is the best type of comments to receive.❤️
This is the perfect modern day AE86 now.
Paying some true Homage to the AE86. 🤝🤝🤝
I agree the Gt86 had to come with the BEAMS engine ✅
FireVideo 🔥🔥🔥
💯 percent, thanks Wong. 😎🤝 It adds a whole element of fun to that car.
3sgte*
WoW. This 86 reminds me of the movie Fast n Furious Tokyo Drift. Kudos to Kurt, everyone would do a 2JZ conversion, however I'm really impressed with the route that Kurt has taken. Well done, would like to see power figures on the DYNO.
For now I'm making 163kw and 220nm but I changed the exhaust and with the next tune I should be pushing up the torque
Nice one Kurt, truly impressed.
@@Avocado1_Avocado2 that's the power to the floor? If so, very good numbers, it would make it just as quick if not quicker than s2000 since I think the gt86 would be a little lighter. I know by experience that a stock s2000 is much quicker feeling than a stock gt86 lol. I was thinking of stuffing a Beams in a 72' 510, but I like this too, if I find a blown engine frs/gt86 I might look into this : )
@@seblo8462 sorry for the late reply that power I made on the day a S2000 was on the dyno aswell and he made less than what I did. I don't drag this car but it would be interesting to see how it goes against a S2000
Damn this was an unexpected conversion and it works damn well. Props to the owner for this build. Have to agree 💯 that Toyota should have rather used the beams instead of the boxer engine
Happy that most people agree with the point we made in this video and they can see why this engine is a logical alternative. 🤝😁
Toyota had to use a boxer from Subaru as part of the joint venture. And Subaru was never gonna put a boxer in a car that was better than what was in the WRX
@@adampandit4326 true yes, with the deal they signed they agreed to have the boxer engine in there as it was the economical decision.
Only thing is those motors have been out of production for 16 years now
It went well and my 86 will go well in my GT check out the channel 🇯🇵🔥🇯🇵🔥🇯🇵
Beautiful vid.... Well done Kurt... It was all worth the wait and the sacrifices you made to get your baby to that point..
Thanks Duwain, it was so worth the wait.
100% agree that this car should've come out with a BEAMS engine. Pretty sure the sales would've skyrocketed if it did! Great video Akeel!👌🏽 Would love to see this car in action some time.
So glad you agree with the point we were bringing across, it's just so we'll coupled to the chassis and adds more fun to the car and that's always a good thing. Glad you enjoyed it brother. 🤝💪
Hats off too the owner and build team something for the books
I have a toyota altezza. Beams engine is amazing. Ae86 beams swaps are super common, so this seems like the natural next step. All it needs now is some itbs :P
I can guarantee there is something awesome on the cards for this car next. 😎😁💪
Proper 86 with TOYOTA power!
I mean, one of Toyota's best features are it's engines.
That sounds so mooi. Love this build.😍😍😍
Thanks Kev, you and me both.🔥🔥🔥
Wouldn't of even thought of putting that engine in.. Wow sounds awesome..
It's got a nice burble and growl to it.
Yawww this car looks like so much to drive now! 😍🏎
Loved the video ⚡️🤟🏻
Glad you enjoyed the video. 😁 It's all the fun.
Great job Akeel. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much Luqmaan, will keep them coming.
Knocked it out of the park 🙏. We are blessed.
Totally appreciate this comment, for the car and the video. 🤲💪🤝
This is kwaai keep up the good work akeel ❤️🔥
Much appreciated my brother. 💪😁
Braaaahhh🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🌡🌡🌡🌡🌡😭 this is literally my dream build and it's so good to see that someone has actually done it! What a car! Damn🙌🙌🤜. Good video as always bro💪
It's one of my dream builds too, that's why I was soo excited to have some time reviewing this car. This build is so worthit and thanks for the compliment on the video as well. 🙌🙌🙌🤝🤝🤝😎
@@akeelhassanvideo one day is one day bro💪💪💪. That 86 Night Run video you made is still one my favorites also bra especially hearing that 1jz Boost!
@@steyno7471 that is raw power yes and that thing was crazy fast but I think that conversion costs around R 150 000 plus and that was around the time I shot that video so well into R 200 000 now with the price of the motor alone being R 65 000. I also wish people would watch that video more. lol
Great video, awesome swap and I like how you explained the build and the reasoning behind it.
I totally agree 👍hot swap 🔥 .
Thanks Byron, like I know the 3S-GE would have struggled to pass emissions in some countries but it could have been a really strong contender if they looked to redesign it for that purpose. Glad you agree man. 🤝💪💯
Watched alot of your videos, this is the icing on the cake 👌👌👌
Truly appreciate this, I actually told the owner of this car that this is my best review so far in my opinion.
Totally agree with you bro! Toyota should have built the 86 with a beams motor! Awesome video! Thanks👌
Great minds think alike 😎
One of the best sounding 4 cylinder engines ever made and the best swap for this chassis. 👌
This engine has all the fun. 👌
Great job, Kurt!
Subawho trash where it belongs. In the trash. Excellent swap sir
Perfect combination,the ecu just tops is all off👌🏽
I can't wait to see your one. 🤝 All the best with your build as well brother. 💪
road to 20k you've grown tremendously akeel well done
Thank you so much Slam Culture Media, really excited for these next few months. 🤲🤝
@@akeelhassanvideo awesome man we looking forward brother 🙌you always give us exiting content
Appreciate it man 🤲💪💯
A Toyota with a real Toyota motor... Nice!
That's all we wanted we wanted Toyota to do from the factory hey. 🤝
This is such a sick build
Really happy that you enjoyed the video. 😎😎😎
Sounds sooooo much better!
The sound is half of the driving experience as they say. 😁😜
Proper GT86!
That's it! 🤘😎
In theory the original GT86 transmission is the same Aisin unit that was behind the BEAMS so maybe even swapping the bellhousings would have been enough so you could avoid shortening the propshaft. Although I’m guessing the height of the BEAMS made it necessary to mount it further back. Well done swap btw!
Thanks man, however I had to make a decision on sitting with two different clutches and modify the bellhousing was going to cost me more than what I paid for the gearbox, so it wasn't something I was prepared for.
The right engine for the car!
Totally!
They just sound so good
The engine has this roar on throttle and then a nice burble when you come off it.
@@akeelhassanvideo fr fr
Exactly the car Toyota should have built. The power to weight ratio has to be the best of a modern car.
True it's got such good balance and is really focused on the driver having a great experience.
I skat you have one of Thanos stones the way you snap from gem to gem, phucking hell this is djaaaaaas🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hahahaha this comment. 😂😎😁 Shot Zizo glad I'm keeping you entertained Brother that's my aim. 🤝
This is PROPER 💯
Thanks brother 😎🤘🔥
Ayyy Liam in the background we kept it close
dankie brother 🙏🏼
Why does beams always sound good ASF?🤤🔥
I think it's because that's the sound of power. 😁😁😜😜🤣🤣🤣
All 3SGE sound great with an intake and exhaust 🤘🏻
@@benjalex89 oooof specially with a ITB kit🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
The dual vvts
good car, good engine , good sound, like!
Thank you so much. 🤘🤘🤘🤝🤝🤝
Beautiful 😍
Thank you! 😊
So much engine space. I did a beams conversion in a rn85 lowlux and space is an issue for me. After seeing your engine bay I 100% agree that it should have came with that engine from factory
How did you manage to overcome the space issue in the hilux, did you end up going ITB's?
I had the same idea about a year ago! I wanted to ask, if it’s still as balanced as it was when it was stock?
It is balanced yes, plus the extra mid-range torque helps.
This is the motor that should have been used in this car from factory.
Yeah man, it's lively 😁
THAT ENGINE SHOULD HAVE CAME WITH THE CAR
So I have yet to get an 86 but I am looking at my options, I have a few inquiries about the beams swap, what transmission is used? Also is there any way to still have an AC system?
The gt86 transmission was used with a modification to the selector. I'm sure if you package it correctly in the engine pay, smaller AC pump and condensor you can have working AC.
If only Toyota continued updating the 3sge like Honda k series!
You know! Like imagine the 3s-ge in all aluminum and it met the new emissions standards.
@@akeelhassanvideo and also with direct gasoline injection!
Should have install the 3sgte engine. Turbo much power
So cool, i wish theyd sold them like this is have bought one
I think most people would have too, but strategic partnerships lead us to have it with the FA20 boxer. Fuel constrictions in South Africa also had a part to play as they needed a more fuel efficient powerplant.
What's fuel like 1/100Km? For every day driving, is it a good idea? Are those stock standard tires BTW? No rear wheel drive shaft problem yet? / nice choice of mods, planning on doing the same but homework always comes first before conversions.
Hi Neko I find the car abit lighter on fuel on daily driving. I have no drive shaft issues and I am running on Potenza 003
❤️lekker man
Thanks so much Waseem 💪🤝🤗
All the check engine lights on... as it should be.
What transmission is being used, the stock gt86 gearbox or the gearbox which comes with the beams engine.
Hi it is the Beams box the 86 box will push the motor too far forward
There we go, answer from the owner himself 🤙
Out of curiosity, is there's somebody in SA that has swapped beams to avanza?
That's actually a good question, I don't think so to my knowledge. 🤔
What did this engine swap & labour cost @Akeel Hassan?
Hi Clinton, the price of engines have gone up recently. Difficult to say with this one as the owner did most of the modifications himself and the only costs were parts.
I agree 👍
Thanks for understanding where I was coming from. 🤝💪
corolla good designer!!!!
Yes indeed!
Are you using the stock ecu or the aftermarket standalone ecu
Aftermarket Standalone ECU, the owner gives more detail about this in the video when he talks.
lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Yes!!!
Akeel is that me, I can't believe it 🤣🤣🤣
Yes that's you there in the white t-shirt. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@akeelhassanvideo damn thank you once again for including me in the video akeel 🙏🏼
Only a pleasure brother. 💪
This is super awesome...
So, does this run better than a 6 front RS200 3SGE? Or it's basically the same...??
Iv never driven an altezza, so I won't be able to tell you man
Yeah we unfortunately did not get the altezza in South Africa.
Am trying to convince myself that it's the same cause I drive a 3S Altezza 😂....
I wish I could get more power out of it... But in Zambia, no one tunes...
@@mr.champs5957 maybe with some better flowing exhaust you can extract some more power man, it's a pity no one tunes there. You got an awesome base to start modifications from.
Bro i need advice how is this engine for rx8?
It can work, I mean if people are able to put a k swap in a Rx7 then it should be able to go in that platform too.
Just saw this Video! Absolutely Insane!
If I may ask, What would this swop put me back because I am looking at options. Anything is better than the standard FA engine. Beams with ITB's is definitely a Good one!
Hey Guss, no problem.
Which side of the world are you from?
@@akeelhassanvideo George Western Cape! SA my bro! hehe
@@Guss2052 lovely man, CAW, the owner Kurt is quite active in the comments so I'm sure he'll pop a reply here soon.
@@akeelhassanvideo Oki sweet!
I’m starting to the swap right now on my channel any pointers?
There are many minor things too look at and clearances below the motor I have seen you using the 86 transmission which I would not use as it pushes the motor forward, mine sits as close too the firewall as possible helping with handling
I used the altezza transmission for the swap on the ae86 and it’s going to go on the GT
While I expect my FA20 to last a long time I also cant wait for it to blow so i can do an engine swap. So far a beams engine or honda k series are the 2 engines I'm looking at.
Both are great choices in my opinion
This is a really cool swap. Problem is power. They still can't handle too much and no one really builds these to handle much more than 400 which is ok but still pushes the engine kinda far
I won't say problem is power if I wanted power I would have gone with a 2jz or something but then I loose the cars dynamics which I really wanted to keep. If you want power out of a beams you can buy rods and pistons ect and boost it to make about 400 like you say and your budget will be the same as a 2jz. However driving the two cars will show you the big difference how well does it handle around bends ect.
Can you show some details regarding the swap? Dyno numbers?
Standard motor with the addition of an aftermarket exhaust that flows better, so I guess it's in the 160kw mark. I'm not sure if the owner has dynoed it since.
Standard engine mounts off the shelf? To alternator, ac, etc mounting brackets swap over with the BEAMS? Does shifter line up with the stock location? Trans mounts andriveshaft? @@akeelhassanvideo
Hi most of the swap was straight forward. Mounts are custom made as for the gear lever I mentioned in the video was altered too sit properly, for the dyno I have only done it once as I do not have problems with it. AC wiring is something I worked out how to do and it took me a acouple of weeks too sort out its not information I openly disclose
If Toyota made the whole car themselves
Totally, but to save a lot of costs Toyota has been pairing up with a lot of manufacturers lately with some of their smaller cars like the starlet and Agya.
@@akeelhassanvideo I mean in all fairness didn't Yamaha have a big hand in making the 3SGE? If so technically Toyota still wouldn't've made all the bits on this
@@williammememan6002 100 percent correct yes Yamaha came in with development on the cylinder head of the 3S-GE. 😁
Bro howsit your car is whipp bro are you still using the original gearbox and press button ignition?
I'll definitely let the owner know the kind words or he may even comment here soon, but yes it's using the original gearbox and the start button still works as well which is awesome. 😎🤝 That's part of the reason I had to feature this car.
@@akeelhassanvideo bro if you have whatsapp 0764754829 id like to know how the motor and box were paired like do i have to get a 3gse bell housing and will it mount to my gearbox or make an adapter plate... Please advise
It honestly still sounds like a boxer from the back.. is that stock exhaust of the 86? this is interesting..
Yeah we tried to eliminate the boxer sound. However I am changing too single exit exhaust and hopefully that works
@@Avocado1_Avocado2 i like how it sounds and looks stealth actualy. Single tip will be mad tho. Nice build guys!!
Thanks man, for now I'm kinda digging the stealth sound of it and when you Rev past 7 the beams sounds start to come out
Sounds better
It's got got that growl!
Hey brother, how can we get in contact with you to enquire about coverage?
Hey brother, pop me a message on my Facebook page: facebook.com/hpavs
Are you based in Cape Town?
Does it retain AC and power steering/?
Yes it does
Brilliant
@@msh4292like i said its important to me to keep it stock inside the car but with spice
what are those wheels?
I think maybe the owner can confirm. I'm not sure it was a long time back.
Akeel Hassan,Do you like Rain Wifi that has unlimited data and that is about R250 per month to use one??
Hey I use afrihost man🤝
But not Rain?
@@nazirjones3608 rain is stupidly bad when it comes to download speed!! Stay far away!!!!!!!!!...
Rain is junk speed 2mbps but depends where u live
This almost 20 years older engine , slighter more power stock, the 3SGE sounds better , better quality and best is it extremely tunable for aftermarket, phenomenal sound with turbocharged, to me best sound turbo car. Legendary 4 cylinder. I agree this should have been the engine on Toyota 86 , I don’t hate the boxer engine, it great as is stock . Just doesn’t have much potential.
You see, you and I speak the same language. Totally agree with what you're saying it has more options available to it in this platform.
@@akeelhassanvideo exactly said , funny thing is people always mention other swaps and don’t even know of this legendary 3SGE and I’m like why? This powerful engine and turbocharged even better ! It’s powerful. Def the way to go and I’m glad to see somebody putting it out there , funny thing is I planning to get Toyota 86 and I want swap in 3SGE engine to begin with, it just cost a lot of money 💰 something I lack as is😎 this is def not easy project and I know it will have it hurdles🧨. Great to see this , keep it up and posted 👍
@@Sol_chaser92 honestly this was my first time swapping an engine and doing wiring with management and I was shocked at how smooth it went. Yes I had problems during the build but I had friends I could ask for assistance. Never under estimate yourself, you might just surprise yourself. Just a heads up I'm a draughtsman not a mechanic
@@Avocado1_Avocado2 👍 nice ! Swaps is heavy job no matter how you look at it . Trial and error , I was always hoping to see within past years that somebody do this swap and generate great results , this def answers my questions . I know now what to expect and maybe if I have worked my ass off I can do this too . Thanks again .
@@Sol_chaser92 I wish you all the best when you do engine swop your GT86. Sometimes the best options are overlooked and the 3S-GE engines are very bulletproof when the engine tune is good.
The engine this car should had come from factory!!
We're on the same wavelength here. 🤝🤝🤝
Have you maybe asked the owner about conversion price in total?
Hi because I don't majority of the work myself I spent about 65k however after selling the motor and other stuff it came to more than half of that price
@@Avocado1_Avocado2 Hi Kurt, do you have an Instagram since I am interested in this build and I need more information
SampsonTRD I have not loaded all my photos and videos of this build yet
That’s more like it
I added English closed captions to the video as well, because the mic levels weren't as high as I thought.
How much power is she making?
160Kw and 220 Nm there is more information about the setup in the description.
What ecu did you use?
The owner says in the video.
Londeka it's a ecumaster emu black
@@Avocado1_Avocado2 you get bonus points for being the only owner that replies to all the comments on his car. 😎😎😁😁🤘🤘🤘
What’s the rim
I can't remember bro, this video was a long while back.
Sounds better than the FA
See, me and you, we're on the same wavelength. 😎💪🤝
Interesting build.
Not sure what the 3S-GE does to the center of gravity and weight balance of the car, probably ruins it a little, but interesting build nonetheless... Mans gotta change those wheels tho, they ain't doing the car justice lol.
Thanks Zaylan, so I asked the owner about that as well, the 3S-GE is quite a few kilograms lighter, and actually sits closer to the firewall with is good for weight balance, but obviously like you say it's changed but in a good way with driving feel and torque through the rev range.
@akeel Hassan what size wheels are on the car?
They are 17inch wheels bro.
@@akeelhassanvideo stock gears as well? 4.10?
@@joseanvi correct stock gear set and GT86 box with a slight modification on the selector, but the same ratios.
@@akeelhassanvideothanks for the quick responses. Currently putting one in a Isuzu pickup.
@@joseanvi always here for my fans man, wishing you all the best on your build. Remember the power of the motor is in the tune that you put in it. You got this. 🤝🤝🤝
What's a beems powered 86... any English
I meant to say 3S-GE powered GT86 lol
@@akeelhassanvideo cool no worries
All good brother. 🤝💯
So it weighs more and makes less power, and less torque? At least it sounds like a Toyota!
It weighs slightly less makes more power, more torque and has a wider Rev range. 😉
@@akeelhassanvideo a first gen BEAMs? You sure about that?
@@salloroc20 not first gen, G1 BEAMS, so G1 is the first of the Dual VVT-i BEAMS or "blacktop" BEAMS
@@salloroc20 beams motor weighs 143kg and FA20 is 171kg around this figure
🥵Already hot as it is♨️
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Would have been great, but the cost would of skyrocketed using the 3SGE Beams motor if Toyota decided to use that motor. From the start, plus the weight would of been off and it wouldn't handle as well as it is.
Costs might be off the charts however currently the car cost 600k plus which is already off the charts as for weight the beams is lighter than the boxer motor
@@Avocado1_Avocado2 It's not about weight though, it's about center of gravity and weight distribution. The beams will throw that off entirely and handling capabilities will be reduced. Of course you won't feel that on public roads but driving it at the limit you definitely would feel a difference.
@@Pynoxim1 correct my mistake in saying weight, 👍
this car must come from the factory with the beams, if not the 2zz
2zz is also a very good option, will take some fabrication though.
Toyota should have put their blacktop 3s in the Gt86 an put the boxer in the subaru Brz ...makes sense so you know difference .These days the person in charge of toyota isnt makin good decisions to suit customers, i wonder does he even listen...
I'm looking forward to the Yaris GR coming to South Africa. I think Toyota redeemed themselves with that car. 😎
The GT86 from the factorywas really lacking in the performance side of things yes.
@@akeelhassanvideo so far so good
@@reneeharewood5053 happy to hear that
To be honest think that the fa20 is a better engine for the car the only real issue is the. Torque dip lighter shorter more powerful lower centre of gravity probably cheaper to use a Subaru developed engine then revive a 20 year old engine and bring it up to emission standards the BRZ / GT 86 will be a car that will keep on being made and keep on being sold it's not the best in category because it's built for a price but that price is something you can afford
I totally understand where you're coming from and the FA20 was a good strategic decision and the best economical way to build this car from the factory and a manufacturer perspective. This is however from the owner's perspective with torque on tap all the way through and the 3S-GE engine is lighter.
Poes mooi 😍😩😩💦
Put it up against an IS200/300 same tune and everything
That would actually be an interesting comparison, pity we didn't get any Altezza's locally and the is200's here are 6cylinder cars.
@@akeelhassanvideo you mean the 2JZ's only? Dang well boost up and show em N.A power can keep up
Yeah so is 200 here came with the 1G-FE, which is a 2.0 liter 6 cylinder N/A and then the IS 300 came with the N/A version of the 2JZ motor.
toyota should shud have brought out a vvt-li motor in 2 liter variant
I sometimes think what would a 2zz-ge engine be like in a GT86.
@@akeelhassanvideo i think it would be very quick maybe under 5 seconds because yoh lift is legendary
@@Shikshame you could be right and nice driver engagement through the gears to keep it in lift.
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Needs a turbo on that 3SGE
It's running Naturally Aspirated for now.
How dare you now take off that boxer badge on your side fender
I love your sense of humor
Allan you more than welcome to come buy them by me. As I do have plans on replacing it
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