Thank you Jez. I've been looking forward to this story for a while because it stars the brilliant Elizabeth Spriggs - a fine actress now sadly deceased. Thanks again 👍🏼
A pleasure, Gowerbear. :) I've just uploaded another Crown Court - "Beauty and the Beast" starring Nigel Hawthorne. I've a dozen or so more to upload so watch this space for more stories. :)
I remember watching this episode at home, and was thrilled to see the one and only David J Batley in the cast - one of my favorite actors in RWT earlier on in BBC2.
Glad to oblige, Jennie! Keep an eye out for "Fair Play" and "Past Times" which are the other two stories I have containing Kathleen Fenton: I'll try and upload them during the week (back to work tomorrow, so not so much time to get them onto UA-cam, I'm afraid!). Take care! :)
These are excellent case's to watch and to learn from. Thank you for uploading these. I find them fascinating to watch. Much better than what is on TV these day's. PC. 05. 04. 2023.
I thought I might be the only one who could believe JG watched every penny she paid out. The barman was there for five years even though he wasn't paid well. Ditto for her general manager. I believe he was paid way less and that he let her know what needed to be done.
As am I, I haven't had a TV in 15 years as I refuse to pay for such low quality programming that is now offered on American television. But even in the years that the Crown Court was active, American TV had nothing of this sort to offer. Afternoon TV was nothing but a series of poorly acted, poorly produced soap operas written by 3rd rate writers. I suspect it is no better now. I must take time to say how grateful I am to PBS who first introduced me to British TV via the wonderful comedic sitcoms that was offered. In it's early years, the Discovery Channel played a British children's cartoon series -Danger Mouse-. that offered child oriented adventures but had very subtle adult innuendos interlaced within the story, (i,e, The time that Danger Mouse and his side-kick, Penfold found themselves in outer space and fell into a "pink hole".) At a time when our world is so chaotic and troubled, I need a place to mentally relax and shut the doors on reality if only for an hour at a time. Thank you, JezT for supplying this much needed repose.
Why they didn't at least mention the managers of her other establishments' thoughts on her penny-pinching, or a delved into the accounts, I don't know.
The irony here is that the Judge played a jailer in the 1966 movie a Man of All Seasons. That Liverpool actor as a witness I am sure was in the Harry Enfield show playing one of these "keelm down keelm down" scouse characters. This episoide/s are actor rich and superb. Shame I read the comments first as they contained spoilers. Ah well - live and learn. Huge thanks, Jez
At first l didn’t recognize Elizabeth Spriggs (defendant Mrs Godfrey). She was a recurrently fun character player (notably Charles Dickens’ Sairy Gamp) & often justly described as “formidable” in her acting skill. RIP
Yes, but that's not meant to be the point in the English criminal system. Apart from the fact that the laws about criminal negligence were much less stringent regarding levels of responsibility and sentencing in those days, the conviction itself opened the door for civil actions which would have left her pretty much bankrupt.
Still happening in the UK today. Look up "Grenfell Tower Fire" on Google. That was 7 years ago now and nobody's been punished or even found responsible...
Finally! The decor of the courtroom in this episode is such an improvement over the awful panelling of courtrooms in previous episodes, and the ugly metal trim throughout.
Two grand for causing 17 deaths. Good grief. I used to watch Crown Court when I was off sick from school (only three channels in those days). I'm having an absolute binge of these old episodes. Some very talented actors involved. Thanks for the uploads.
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"By John Foster" - UK TV drama's way of telling you that nothing cheerful will be happening in the following show. As anyone who's seen his episodes of Z-Cars and Juliet Bravo will tell you.
He played a Juror in an episode of another 'Court' series, when he said to the Judge, (Robert Morley), "I thought this was a Court of Justice", Morley smugly replied, "It is a Court of Law." The Juror then thanked the Judge for 'pointing out the DIFFERENCE'. Morley's face was a picture.
@@davidfrost779 Oh yes, I think I saw that-not sure if it would be too scary to watch now-and still know John Nettleton's face in general 🙂 Also sorry to hear about Pamela Salem leaving us this year. bye for now "David F"
@@sarasen8147 Yes that was sad too hear about the death of Pamela Salem,she was in one my and my mums favourite films The First Great Train Robbery which of course starred Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland and who of course also died last month
Yet another fine example of brilliant acting and thought-provoking scriptwriting, thanks Jez! But I could hardly believe the verdict!! Neither of them were taking their jobs seriously, negligence all round. *** SPOILER ALERT!!*** Why on earth was Flood found not guilty??? If Godfrey was half as stingy as witnesses made out, he should have kicked up a fuss! He could at least have thrown the fan away! if Godfrey inherited the club unwillingly after her husband's death, why on earth didn't she sell it? To keep it yet abdicate responsibility - something she was not unfamiliar with - to such an extent was unforgivable. Would £2000 have made such a dent in her pocket? I suggest not! They should both have been locked up and the key thrown away!! A few hundred hours of community service would have done them both good! Our wonderful British justice, held up as an example to the world... God save us!
Totally agree. Flood was as guilty as Godfrey. Quite surprised to see he was not found guilty. I think it was his duty to see if the exit doors are unlocked on the first floor as well as the gound floor; imho he was lying. Even if he had delegated that task to the head barmen of the club , it was his duty as a general manager to check on him.
I was appalled at the final verdict but the "sentence" was disgusting! They both should have had to serve prison time being allowed out twice a week to work in an establishment similar to the one they were totally responsible for as wait staff or kitchen help.
No, it was 100% the owner’s fault and no one else’s. The manager reported everything and whilst working there was only so much he could do. 100% innocent. Absolutely no one else’s fault but the owner. This is how health and safety legislation officially operates now and quite rightly so. Yes, the sentence was farcical even for those times. She should get at least 5 years plus victims compensation.
@@digbycrankshaft7572 At the very least a suspended custodial sentence should have been handed down. I hope the families of all the victims sue her for every penny she was worth the penny pinching old bag!
Then you must be rather simple. She was legally responsible as the proprietor and had repeatedly refused to allow improvements and safety measures which would ensure that the premises were made more safe.
Juliet Parkinson, one of the barristers, played by Pamela Salem passed away recently. 22/01/1944 - 21/02/2024. Great actress. Thanks for uploading
Caroline Blakiston is as always excellent, really powerful and intense performance, another top quality episode.
She was brilliant in Brass.
£2000 fine? That was just a slap on the wrist. For such grave negligence she should have got at least 5 years plus compensation to the victims.
Hundred and fifteen quid a life. Probably plays golf with judge.
I absolutely enjoy reading and appreciate your synopsis of each episode.
Thank you Jez. I've been looking forward to this story for a while because it stars the brilliant Elizabeth Spriggs - a fine actress now sadly deceased. Thanks again 👍🏼
A pleasure, Gowerbear. :) I've just uploaded another Crown Court - "Beauty and the Beast" starring Nigel Hawthorne. I've a dozen or so more to upload so watch this space for more stories. :)
Looking forward already 👍🏼
I loved the electrician’s helmet Afro hairstyle. Did people walk like that in the streets for real? 😂😂😂
1,000-Watt bouffant hairdo.😄
I remember watching this episode at home, and was thrilled to see the one and only David J Batley in the cast - one of my favorite actors in RWT earlier on in BBC2.
Jez!!! YOU ROCK!!! Thank you much for uploading this! You totally just made my day:) And yes, still scary!
Glad to oblige, Jennie! Keep an eye out for "Fair Play" and "Past Times" which are the other two stories I have containing Kathleen Fenton: I'll try and upload them during the week (back to work tomorrow, so not so much time to get them onto UA-cam, I'm afraid!). Take care! :)
Certainly agree with you...!!!
"Fair Play" and "Past Times", both containing the character of Kathleen Fenton, have been uploaded. Enjoy!
These are excellent case's to watch and to learn from. Thank you for uploading these. I find them fascinating to watch. Much better than what is on TV these day's. PC. 05. 04. 2023.
Very pleased you’re enjoying the episodes, Peter 🙂👍
Looks like a funny handshake job to me! Bet there would have been an uproar. thank you Jez
Elizabeth Spriggs was a great actress 😊👍
I thought I might be the only one who could believe JG watched every penny she paid out. The barman was there for five years even though he wasn't paid well. Ditto for her general manager. I believe he was paid way less and that he let her know what needed to be done.
The proprietor seems to be confused on the difference between blame and responsibility. Frankly astonishing testimony.
As an American, I am grateful for the upload.
As am I, I haven't had a TV in 15 years as I refuse to pay for such low quality programming that is now offered on American television. But even in the years that the Crown Court was active, American TV had nothing of this sort to offer. Afternoon TV was nothing but a series of poorly acted, poorly produced soap operas written by 3rd rate writers. I suspect it is no better now.
I must take time to say how grateful I am to PBS who first introduced me to British TV via the wonderful comedic sitcoms that was offered. In it's early years, the Discovery Channel played a British children's cartoon series -Danger Mouse-. that offered child oriented adventures but had very subtle adult innuendos interlaced within the story, (i,e, The time that Danger Mouse and his side-kick, Penfold found themselves in outer space and fell into a "pink hole".)
At a time when our world is so chaotic and troubled, I need a place to mentally relax and shut the doors on reality if only for an hour at a time. Thank you, JezT for supplying this much needed repose.
Nice to see Charles Kay, so excellent as a headmaster to be despised in To Serve Them All My Days.
I used to watch crown court with my mum when I was a child
Why they didn't at least mention the managers of her other establishments' thoughts on her penny-pinching, or a delved into the accounts, I don't know.
Every time I hear 'Fulchester,' I think of, Viz! 😂 And I watched many of these in the 1970s
This could be based on the deadly fire at The Stardust in Ireland - same year. RiP victims of nightclub fires.
Thank you Jez T for your relies. These case's are very interesting even though they maybe from the. PC 11. 04. 2023.
The irony here is that the Judge played a jailer in the 1966 movie a Man of All Seasons. That Liverpool actor as a witness I am sure was in the Harry Enfield show playing one of these "keelm down keelm down" scouse characters. This episoide/s are actor rich and superb. Shame I read the comments first as they contained spoilers. Ah well - live and learn. Huge thanks, Jez
£2000 for manlaughter of 17 people is unrelistic. She should have had a fine big enough requiring her to sell all her businesses and loše of licence
Miss Moneypenny herself! Pamela Salem from Never Say Never Again.
At first l didn’t recognize Elizabeth Spriggs (defendant Mrs Godfrey). She was a recurrently fun character player (notably Charles Dickens’ Sairy Gamp) & often justly described as “formidable” in her acting skill. RIP
RIP John "Sir Arnold" Nettleton.
$2,000 for 17 dead and how many scarred or disabled? Amazing this was thought to be adequate and sufficient punishment.
That's the UK for you!
Yes, but that's not meant to be the point in the English criminal system. Apart from the fact that the laws about criminal negligence were much less stringent regarding levels of responsibility and sentencing in those days, the conviction itself opened the door for civil actions which would have left her pretty much bankrupt.
Could that be what was allowed at the time?
Or money went further then!
Still happening in the UK today. Look up "Grenfell Tower Fire" on Google. That was 7 years ago now and nobody's been punished or even found responsible...
So Sir Arnold became a judge when he left the Civil Service...
Caroline Blakiston - Mon Mothma herself!
It's a Star Wars bonanza! The bartender was aboard Death Star I!
Finally! The decor of the courtroom in this episode is such an improvement over the awful panelling of courtrooms in previous episodes, and the ugly metal trim throughout.
The owner should've been banned from running such premises in the future.
Quite enjoyed this episode. Obviously influenced by the events of Woolworths Fire in Manchester.
Also by the Cocnonut Grove fire in Boston, which had the melody Lounge with flamable decorations and so on:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoanut_Grove_fire
I think also the Stardust nightclub fire in Dublin, February 1981.
I'll take this over Rinder any day
Loved this one mini fist pump lol but only £2000 fine she should have gone down. thanks jezz.
SPOILER ALERT: I agree, Bruce, I thought she would have got a custodial sentence!
Totally agree! That minimal sentence surprised me a lot
Two grand for causing 17 deaths. Good grief. I used to watch Crown Court when I was off sick from school (only three channels in those days). I'm having an absolute binge of these old episodes. Some very talented actors involved. Thanks for the uploads.
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She throws a lot of blame on poor Paul..
One of the jury members.looks like Tony Blackburn.
The crossexamination is absurd. She is visciously attacking people who almost died.
Love Crown Court
Am I the only person who shouted Rock On Tommy when Rex Meredith appeared? 😁
Why didn’t Paul Flood throw his surname on the fire?
It’s the least he could have done!
"By John Foster" - UK TV drama's way of telling you that nothing cheerful will be happening in the following show. As anyone who's seen his episodes of Z-Cars and Juliet Bravo will tell you.
The inimitable Bernard Wrigley!
I think that's the teacher from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory ..
That's what caused the fire, wart remover, horrible dangerous stuff, blows you up.
Another one I've found jez..can't be many more.I've left comments on them all jez.can you give me names of any titles I havent seen yet.
I think you’ve seen them all, Kirk. But to be sure, if you go to the list of my uploaded videos, you can check out any you don’t recognise. :)
Cheers jez..
Which ones have you not seen @@kirkbrookes4812
the actor who plays the judge has done lots of TV too...
John Nettleton - He used to narrate a lot of the stories on Blue Peter in the 60s
He played a Juror in an episode of another 'Court' series, when he said to the Judge, (Robert Morley), "I thought this was a Court of Justice", Morley smugly replied, "It is a Court of Law." The Juror then thanked the Judge for 'pointing out the DIFFERENCE'. Morley's face was a picture.
John Nettleton also appeared in And Soon the Darkness (1970) in which he played a Gendarme who turns out to be a killer
@@davidfrost779 Oh yes, I think I saw that-not sure if it would be too scary to watch now-and still know John Nettleton's face in general 🙂 Also sorry to hear about Pamela Salem leaving us this year. bye for now "David F"
@@sarasen8147 Yes that was sad too hear about the death of Pamela Salem,she was in one my and my mums favourite films The First Great Train Robbery which of course starred Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland and who of course also died last month
The £2000 fine would be just under £10,000 today (2023).
It's not the Forman who looks like Tony Blackburn.it's the one next to him .
Correct verdict👍
Crap sentence though
2000 pounds and 17 dead? British justice, fly kite, mate.
Think its the Forman.who looks like Blackburn.
The people say Janet was cheap, but rich people don't get rich by spending money like water.]
Yet another fine example of brilliant acting and thought-provoking scriptwriting, thanks Jez! But I could hardly believe the verdict!! Neither of them were taking their jobs seriously, negligence all round. *** SPOILER ALERT!!***
Why on earth was Flood found not guilty??? If Godfrey was half as stingy as witnesses made out, he should have kicked up a fuss! He could at least have thrown the fan away! if Godfrey inherited the club unwillingly after her husband's death, why on earth didn't she sell it? To keep it yet abdicate responsibility - something she was not unfamiliar with - to such an extent was unforgivable. Would £2000 have made such a dent in her pocket? I suggest not! They should both have been locked up and the key thrown away!! A few hundred hours of community service would have done them both good! Our wonderful British justice, held up as an example to the world... God save us!
Totally agree. Flood was as guilty as Godfrey. Quite surprised to see he was not found guilty. I think it was his duty to see if the exit doors are unlocked on the first floor as well as the gound floor; imho he was lying. Even if he had delegated that task to the head barmen of the club , it was his duty as a general manager to check on him.
I was appalled at the final verdict but the "sentence" was disgusting! They both should have had to serve prison time being allowed out twice a week to work in an establishment similar to the one they were totally responsible for as wait staff or kitchen help.
No, it was 100% the owner’s fault and no one else’s. The manager reported everything and whilst working there was only so much he could do. 100% innocent. Absolutely no one else’s fault but the owner. This is how health and safety legislation officially operates now and quite rightly so.
Yes, the sentence was farcical even for those times. She should get at least 5 years plus victims compensation.
The verdict was correct in my opinion but the sentence was outrageous and the judge should rightly have been targeted by the media for it.
@@digbycrankshaft7572 At the very least a suspended custodial sentence should have been handed down. I hope the families of all the victims sue her for every penny she was worth the penny pinching old bag!
Interesting
Why got a cardissian from star trek as a witness🤔
Great episode but Miss Chadwick’s grammar is poor for someone whose occupation is that of teacher.
Correct verdicts - the manager did what he could but the blame lay with the owner, typical Tory!
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"Proprietrix"
I don't see why the lady was charged at all. Paul ran the place, she just handled the money.
Then you must be rather simple. She was legally responsible as the proprietor and had repeatedly refused to allow improvements and safety measures which would ensure that the premises were made more safe.