Advocacy: 'as if' the Person Represented, or 'for' Them? - Sir Geoffrey Nice QC

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  • Is Advocacy an inate skill or can it be taught? How might we teach it:
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    UK lawyers used to think that advocacy was a God--given art. In the last 20 years -- not more - they have discovered how to train advocacy, applying skills acquired from jurisdictions around the world. Analysis of how advocacy really works benefits from looking back at earlier periods, and then looking forward to today and beyond asking whether advocacy is for establishing the truth and whether the advocate is as if the person represented or simply advocating to win on the client's behalf at almost any cost. This lecture may include practical demonstrations of examples of advocacy and may involve active engagement with the audience -- if willing!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 29

  • @mattwawrzyn7619
    @mattwawrzyn7619 9 років тому +25

    Very well done. I am an attorney based in Chicago, and this was for me an entertaining and fascinating discussion. Thank you. Matt Wawrzyn

  • @xxxKellsBells87xxx
    @xxxKellsBells87xxx 7 років тому +20

    I wish I had discovered this video before I had my advocacy sessions at university. Very interesting video and the techniques used in cross-examination and evidence-in-chief are explained well.

  • @johnbryant6572
    @johnbryant6572 4 роки тому +10

    This is brilliant wish I had teachers like him when I went to school.

  • @RR-yy2xm
    @RR-yy2xm 4 роки тому +11

    To make a living by thinking of ways to manipulate the truth in order to capitalize on someone's time of distress or misfortune, it takes a certain kind of creature

  • @Nnnuuk
    @Nnnuuk 4 роки тому +12

    Interesting lecture, but I have to put one thing right. If you don't have money, you can't get help, and you are not allowed do it yourself. I know this from first-hand experience in the UK. Pro Bono barristers are rather like Unicorns everybody has heard of them, but nobody can find one.

  • @user-os3ed5yf3q
    @user-os3ed5yf3q 8 років тому +7

    Great stuff and very educational

  • @VictoriaAlfredSmythe
    @VictoriaAlfredSmythe 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @sgvh1
    @sgvh1 5 років тому +8

    Truer lessons could have been learnt if he shared how he prosecuted Milosevic.

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 7 років тому +5

    33:00 cross examination

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 7 років тому +2

    28:40 Examination In Chief

  • @tonychan8495
    @tonychan8495 7 років тому +12

    HORACE RUMPOLE!!!!!!

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 7 років тому +1

    12:30 trials starting w/the vikings

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 7 років тому +2

    21:40 rule 3 know the law & political climate

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 7 років тому +3

    26:30 Barris-ta in 2mins - coffee?

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 7 років тому +1

    14:30 the jury may give their verdict

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 7 років тому +2

    11:00 Rule 1

  • @listen2meokidoki264
    @listen2meokidoki264 4 роки тому +1

    In Orstralya Public Schools are called Private Schools. And government schools are called Public schools. The switch has something to do with some bizarre ritual early ships crossing the equator on their way to Orstralya practiced on the convicts. The little mentioned fact about them is they were petty criminals. In other words, the best of the best criminal stock. And they knew their rights.

  • @jacquesdemorton5871
    @jacquesdemorton5871 5 років тому +3

    Forty-three years since he was called to the Bar. Sounds like he just left it for a short time.

  • @julaingallimore7152
    @julaingallimore7152 4 роки тому +8

    Love it. Remember Australianan court's are Kangaroo courts

  • @pinkiep6570
    @pinkiep6570 8 років тому +1

    홍진영

  • @alicialopez488
    @alicialopez488 6 років тому

    That vid with Martin Luther King was in poor taste

    • @dargay386
      @dargay386 5 років тому +1

      why please ?

    • @TellyWatcher1997
      @TellyWatcher1997 4 роки тому +2

      Any excuse to hear that melifluous voice and dignified countenance. Dr King had his faults, as have we all, but he was a great, great man. Good to have him included as it showed that respectful yet insightful interviewing can draw out what makes people tick.

  • @johntuffin3262
    @johntuffin3262 4 роки тому

    This must have been corrupted. It led into an unintelligible American film.

  • @creations9824
    @creations9824 5 років тому

    Inciteful. The burden of proof wins over true.

  • @calumarundale2814
    @calumarundale2814 5 років тому +6

    Body language is quite poor for a professional. Tone could also use some considerable work.

  • @falldog3572
    @falldog3572 6 років тому +3

    He's got some rather radical political views... Sounds like a communist as far as I can tell. The claim that a civil law system would somehow be fairer seems insane to me. Why any Brit would envy continental Europe is beyond me.
    Also made some strong statements about sexual consent and the nature of criminality, the latter of which would seem to justify a sort of communist worldview (particularly pernicious because it removes individual responsibility for one's own actions).

    • @manatee2500
      @manatee2500 4 роки тому +1

      Geoffrey Brown Actually we stand together having built the foundations of our legal system from English law. For all of our problems, much good has been accomplished - e.g. the successful advocacy that limited some of the egregious excesses committed during the ’Global War on Terrorism’, the work done by lawyers working Civil Rights, and much much more.