Can you guys do Interim Coalition of Governance from Xeelee Sequence? It considered to be the most evil galactic government in sci fi genre that it made all 40k grimdark and Imperium of Man look like Disneyland by comparison. Even 1d4chan are afraid of ICOG.
US: "Who are you?" Usonia: "I'm like you but I have Airships and Mechs" US: "Cool, So your Hindenburg didn't Crash & Burn?" Usonia: "What's the Hindenburg?" US: "Nevermind"
Is it steampunk? If I had to guess I'd say this is more dieselpunk since oil and internal combustion engines are a big thing, but I also don't know the setting.
Since it's Alternate History, not sure who's in charge since US never took part in WW1 (not even the last year) and Alaska is still part of Rusviet/Russian territories.
I'd just like to point out that General Motors has somehow managed to make giant Mechs in *TWO* different timelines. Come on Prime Timeline GM, get it together!
Alternative history GM: we've built mechs and are an industrial giant Prime timeline GM: needed a government bailout, and doesn't stand out much among it's competitors
@@PomaiKajiyama Ya know if we were the dark timeline, that'd still be kinda cool. I'm pretty sure we're just the dumb timeline. I mean look at the past four years to really emphasize this point.
The heart of Usonia is represented in the game by the name Mason. George Mason, the father, commands the largest, most powerful airship in the game, he represents the hawkish and capitalistic side of Usonia. His son, William Mason, mans the best exosuit in the game, and represents the freedom-loving egalitarian idealism at the heart of the nation. It's such a great representation of the conflict of the American character.
Well, knowing the reports by the Germans about four Us soldiers that got hammered on Independence day and stole a moped for a joyride. Yea I’d be pretty scared too.
An American Guest: "I'll tell you, we'll be facing a second civil war within the next ten years." Another American Guest: "We should be fulfilling our destiny and taking the rest of Mexico, and the land up north too!"
@@lennoxtvthingy7408No it’s not accurate smooth 🧠. In the 1920s, the USA was the largest producer of petrol in the world due to the recent Texas oil boom. It was only after WW2 did it decline
@@drsm7947Except its not accurate smooth 🧠. In the 1920s, the USA was the largest producer of petrol in the world due to the recent Texas oil boom. It was only after WW2 did it decline
For those who dont know, Aztlán is the mythical place from were the Aztecs were suposed to come from before forming the Aztec empire, and Mexico's real name is the United Mexican States.
This also helps us Americans use the argument to call ourselves Americans and not united states of Americans which is unessacary. United States of Mexico = Mexico United States of America = America.
@@turtley4444 I really don't have a problem with that, only people with inferiority complex have, its like being mad at Centralafricans because their country's name is Central african republic.
Kinda wish they had gone with some of the actual propose alternatives to name the US; Columbia or Fredonia. Still cool to see the Western Hemisphere appear in the game now.
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 That country didn’t exist and was still a Spaniard colony when the US gained independence and began shopping for a name.
From what I can gather, this is FUU military logic: "Oh, you have an enormous army compared to us? Alright, have fun with this fleet of flying battleships!"
@@JustSumGuy01 not even stealthy. Pretty accurate. During operation desert storm, the American armored division played ride of the valkaries as they crossed into Iraq through the intercom system on Jeep’s.
“The Maine was shot down by more advanced weapons than what Hispania possessed.” Casuals: Usonia staged it! Me, an Intellectual: Fenris did it to weaken Hispania and encourage Usonian militirization EDIT: damn good to see slavery was beaten out earlier than IRL. This might be a slightly better timeline
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough Fenris’ ultimate goal is to cause enough chaos and instability to take advantage and seize power. Rasputin is clearly willing to play the long game, and letting Usonia run rampant could demolish many powerful nations. Then it would be easy to cast them down with a Second Civil War if they became a problem. That’s exactly what he did with Rusviet.
The early exit of slavery was a function of the longer revolutionary wars. Slavery didn't really take off in English speaking colonies until the English Civil War of the 1630's. Prior to then demographic pressure and religious/political factionalism had a constant stream of people leaving England who could be used as basic laborers for five to seven years to pay off the purchase of the boat ticket and a plot of land. When the civil wars started up suddenly there was a massive labor shortage and all that stopped. The colonies who were dependent upon exports for survival turned to the only other readily available labor population (given that Native Americans had been decimated by plagues). But, after England came out of the civil wars immigration started back up again. It was only the states that were run by distant or former nobles who were trying to recreate a "gentry" system that developed and maintained large plantations. These are basically recreations of the English Manor system where you have owners who are low nobility responsible for local governance who as a class mediates between small farmers and craftsmen and the distant national authority. The large clans and marriage-alliances in this pseudo-caste system allowed for these small nobles to monopolize local offices in England. When the civil wars disrupted this and set England on the path to becoming a modern state with national institutions many former royalists of this stratum ended up in the Americas where they set about recreating their old manors using slaves instead of serfs. The entrenched political power of these elites in our world set us up for entrenched slavery, since this American Gentry class viewed themselves as the best people for the job of politics, particularly state politics. In the story provided instead of having one singular revolutionary war backed in part by this gentry class (Washington himself was closely related to the Fairfields who were gentry in Northern England and instrumental in Parliamentary victory the Civil Wars), they were crushed in a series of revolutionary wars along with the New England old money merchants. This lead to political power being picked up by mid-sized farmers who didn't specialize in export-oriented cash crops and therefore didn't benefit from slavery nearly as much. The end of slavery in the very early 1800's makes a fair bit of sense since the differences in regional economies would have been substantially smaller and lack of a feudal-style elite meant that slavery would have lacked institutional support and centralized leadership in support. The US ended participation in the transatlantic slave trade in 1808 and set up anti-slavery patrols in 1820 in real life. I suspect that without the plantation system being so firmly entrenched that time frame would be reasonable for an end to American slavery period in this alternate.
Amazing job talking about Usonia. Another thing to add is that I appreciate adding in real-world connections to native americans to the lore, which is something a lot of modern US education likes to skim over or ignore entirely.
I am glad it was mentioned but disappointed the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom is still just a footnote in the grand scheme of things. Usually it is never talked about or spun in a bullshit light, but yea. 50th state still just relegated to just being a tourist destination and military base than the cultural hot spot that it is.
@@HawaiianForgeStudios it is just a footnote. Not sure why you're complaining about Hawaii being a military base and hot tourist attraction (also pretending as if that's all it is). If Hawaii wasn't in the US receiving tons of federal tax dollars every year, it would just be another third-world getaway island with a previous history of being an Imperial Japanese holding.
I do to. And about Atzlan. And how did the various native americans faired in 1920+. And does Brazil still have an emperor? Is Gran Columbia still unified? Are the Mapuche still independent? So many questions about thr Americas of 1920+
@@hangebza6625 I'm guessing the rest of the Americas is pretty much the same, Brazil is probably the Empire of Amazonia or something and rivals with it's new robots with the Platense Republic
@@santi2683 i do not think so. Especially if the conquest of mexiko went differently, which is implied due to Atzlan, the entire americam history would be different e.g., as so much of americas conquests by europeans dependend on spains gold rush and other europeans reacting to it. E.g. Usonia founding states had multiple revolutionary wars against various colonizers, not just one against the british, if I understood the vid correctly. So NE east coast must have been under control of various nations then, indicating a different colonialistic history. And if Alaska is still Rusviet, Usonia, Atzlans and Laurentias borders must be different aa well. Europes are too after all. So why should the south american history be pretty much the same? We can expect a lot of alternate history from EVERY part of the world with the changes 1920+ created
@@thecruzking me to maybe if the rift had had formed during the Horus heresy some of the fragments could have formed something. that being said I dont think that the dark imperium will do anything that interesting.
They didn't exactly make it much more grimdark than it was in reality. The only real difference in terms of grimdarkness is that Usonia is *slightly* (and I mean slightly) more imperialist than the US was in the early 20th century, where we did indeed start war with Spain under false pretenses to acquire their territories. We did indeed back a Hawaiian coup that lead to a fair amount of deaths and may have gone against the will of the natives. The Trail of Tears and the Wounded Knee massacre were very real. I do think this video does capture the spiritual sense of American in the early 20th century-- a conflict between the ideals of individual freedom for all people, and expansionism for the sake of self-interest.
@@thecruzking Well you have the Severan Dominate, a separatist state in the Calixis sector And the "Hounded True" Renegade chapter. maybe not powerful but they're root worthy underdogs.
6:43 and 6:18 are actual historical quotes. "retreat? hell we just got here!" was a quote from american soldier lloyd W. williams. The quote about the army being arrested was actually in reference to the british army in our timelines WW1. it was made by otto von bismark
Lloyd W. Williams: (From wiki) During World War One, Captain Williams was assigned to command the division's 51st Company in the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marines Regiment. On June 3, 1918, a division of Marines was sent to support the French army at the Battle of Belleau Wood. Lloyd Williams was serving as a company commander of 51st Company, 2d Battalion, 5th Marines. As the Marines arrived, they found French troops retreating. When advised to withdraw by a French colonel at the defensive line just north of the village of Lucy-le-Bocage, Williams bluntly replied: "Retreat, Hell! We just got here!" On June 11, 1918, Williams led an assault that routed the German defenders at Belleau Wood near Chateau-Thierry, France. Only 1 of the 10 officers and 16 of the 250 enlisted men survived or escaped injury. According to a French Major's report, after he ordered Williams to withdraw, Williams told him to "go to hell." Later, when Williams had been gassed and injured by shrapnel and lay wounded on the battlefield, he told the approaching medics, "Don't bother with me. Take care of my good men." He later died from a shell explosion as he was being evacuated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Say whatever you will about the dude, man had some real balls of steel
@@WiseStrategist (My Sabaton fan side)....KILL FIGHT DIE THATS WHAT A SOLDIER SHOULD DO!TOP OF THE GAME EARNING THEIR FAME THEY ARE THE DEVIL DOGS!A WAR AND A MACHINE THEY ARE THE USA MARINNNNEEEESSS
"Hey, I see an eagle. It's a Bald Eagle!" "Oh, it screaming. Fascinating!" "Wait, why does its size increasing? Maybe it's a huge eagle?" "Sh*t, it's not an eagle. IT'S USONIAN AIRSHIP!"
As an American, this is very bitter sweet. The ideal we strive for and have fallen short of. The dream is that this is a land where we judge you by what you do not who your parents are, or your race, creed, or gender. Unfortunately, these high words are far easier to say than follow.
I appreciate KingArt games, and you guys, so much for actually making the consequences of Usonia’s imperialist actions clear. such a realistic and relevant conflict, and you nailed it.
What do you mean, they literally just copy and pasted early United States history and changed United States USA etc to Usonia. It is the most basic overview of all USA history just with mechs.
I love the history iron harvest has built for their game world. I hope they keep doing well and keep adding to it. I also wish there was a mod for HOI4 now that created the iron harvest world in HOI4
So Atzlan is the mythical homeland of the atzecs. Does that mean Iron Harvest aztecs were never defeated? Or that mexico became independent of Hispania via an indegenous revolt? Or was their a indegenous nationalistic movement that formed mexican cultural and political identity stronger than hispanian influences? So many questions so many intrueging possibilities.
@@Overlord99762 often it is much more than that. Saxony was the founder of germany and dresden is the capital for example. And it is called saxony not Germany. So the unification of the German states must have went completly different. And Francia is still ruled by a king IIRC. Not emperor like napoleon III, not a republic etc. So maybe no revolution happened or was quickly defeated or after Louis XIIX was never driven out of the june Revolution or or or. And if napoleon did not exist, who was himself the result of coin tosses, the entire continental history would be vastly different. The name changes often imply heavy differences compared to our own, as major events are changed, which lead to domino and runaway effects of their own.
Callingit "Atzlan" doesn't really mean anything, our timelines Mexico is already derived from an Aztec place name. Maybe it's an indigenous majority state, or more likely given the minimal changes being shown, a Mestizo majority state like today.
Wow this is very interesting the way they changed their history ever so slightly, they even mention how the USS Maine was probably a setup! They sure did their homework creating this faction!
The latter third reads lines straight out of Dan Carlin's 'The American Peril', which I suppose is a fantastic influence to have. I'd encourage most folks here to give that podcast a listen- if alt-history and viddocs like this are your thing, Dan Carlin's history podcasts will be enjoyable for you.
@@mazeriayong8311 OH no. I've just found out that Japanese have spider mechs, but they can place traps so oda nobunagas trap tactics could probably work in game.
5:15 Fun Fact: for those not familiar with US history, these were actual American Political parties that existed. The difference was that the IRL ones were different groups arguing over how the constitution should be written while the in game parties are more like stand ins for the Democrat and Republican parties of today, minus whatever political shenanigans aforementioned parties may or may not be involved in.
@@noahpaquet8357 The short answer it is a relatively new genre in science fiction. I doubt anyone really thought it would catch on at first. But i think popular novels like World in the Balance really helped it to grow in it's own niche.
I'd like to point out that the Usonian walkers that fought for the Polanians at 13:20 basically have the Kosciusko Squadron logo, which is one of many neat historical easter eggs.
Seeing America get some Iron Harvest love, plus seeing Iron Harvest itself not be a one-and-done experience, really do bring a smile to my face. And holy cow those soldier concepts look amazing!
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 I dunno if they're necessarily better. Seems to be a tad more imperialistic than OTL America. And considering we were pretty imperialistic already, that's saying something.
I think Usonia is my favourite faction in the game so far. From your video it sounds like Usonia had the idealism of our own modern America much earlier on. Abolishing slavery long before the 1860s and establishing votes for women before 1920 and and equal rights for blacks before the 1970s.
Well now that it was mentioned in passing, I want to know what Iron Harvest version of Canada is like. Are we our own Country yet? Are we all still stereotypically nice? Do we have cool armoured robots? Is Quebec trying to basically become another country every few years? I need to know these things.
Twas only a matter of time before there's a video tie in to the latest DLC for Iron Harvest, featuring its version of America, a country that speaks loud and carries the biggest stick it could find. Anyway, I hope we'll see additional factions in Iron Harvest soon, especially ones from Scythe.
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 fair enough, though as a nationality identifier, calling US citizens ‘Usonians’ would make more sense than ‘Americans’. “American” without context just seems confusing, and probably a bit arrogant with context. Imagine if people in France called themselves Europeans and just expected everyone else to know that it refers to one nation rather than the whole continent.
I will never not understand how this channel doesn't have at least a million subscribers. Ya'll do such amazing work and any video ya'll put out I like before I even watch it simply because I know I'll like it.
Yeah, but Edison was more of marketing and infrastructure guy. He didn't need to invent. He was the guy who got other people's ideas actually made and sold them. The fact that he took credit for literally everything was a part of marketing, and while it was a dick move and he was an ass personally there was still a method behind all of it.
"Congratulations, here's y'all democracy!" "But we didn't ask for it! All you've given us is a collapsed economy, a power vacuum and a hardened insurgency!" "HERE. IS. YOUR. DEMOCRACY. Now play nice, and you're welcome to ask anything from Ol' Uncle Sam! Except for more foreign aid or military intervention, it messes with our poll numbers if we don't go home in a victory parade."
@@CrisisHedgehog you can if you're Alexander the Great or Genghis Khan. But there's no singular uniting Princess of Bactria to marry and grant your army safe passage, and the Genghis Khan approach is frowned upon.
An America that would try and ignore their founding Anglo-Saxon community and tried to import every single ethnic group from the entire world would’ve collapsed from ethnic tensions by the time of their OTL civil war. Chances are that their immigration is still restricted to only Northwestern Europeans despite the flowery narrative from TI.
The containing expansion 1920+ // Iron Harvest is quite wonderous. I am looking for to see what shall occur now that the yanks have gone "Over There" to Europa.
I'd love to have Albion, the Frankish Republic, and the Togawa Shogunate in iron harvest. Though I believe in lore at least in Scythe the Shogunate controls the vast majority of asia.
I would want to know what happens to the Balkan region as well. Is Tesla's Factory a city state? Does Yugoslavia exist with Romania, Bulgaria, Greece and Albania? Does the Balkan region stretch to Constantinople? or are the Balkans a Federation or Coalition borne from the Balkan Wars?
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Can you guys do Interim Coalition of Governance from Xeelee Sequence? It considered to be the most evil galactic government in sci fi genre that it made all 40k grimdark and Imperium of Man look like Disneyland by comparison. Even 1d4chan are afraid of ICOG.
Greetings, i want an information about the Grove Street Families and crime groups of GTA games.
No frankish or albionese factions reveal yet?
This was lame and weak
You just stuck in US history and changed the names. You guys need to do better
Everybody's gangsta until the skies start singing Over There
OVER THEREEEEEEE
OVER THEREEEEEEE
SEND THE WORD, SEND THE WORD OVER THEREEEEEEE
@@duo496 Hey it's Duo👊✌
@@duo496 please don’t break my kneecaps
OVER THERE OVER THERE SEND THE WORD SEND THE WORD TO BEWARE!!
That the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming
The drums rum-tumming everywhere!
_"Speak softly and fly a big airship and you will go far."_
XD
technically, yes
No u can’t just up end an entire nation with airships
Ha ha 1940s American dream go REEEEEEE
@@dragoddas8885 Ha ha freedom sticks go DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
Kirov reposting
US: "Who are you?"
Usonia: "I'm like you but I have Airships and Mechs"
US: "Cool, So your Hindenburg didn't Crash & Burn?"
Usonia: "What's the Hindenburg?"
US: "Nevermind"
Just 50 years further into this timeline, they will be going head to head against steampunk guerillas in the indochina
Is it steampunk? If I had to guess I'd say this is more dieselpunk since oil and internal combustion engines are a big thing, but I also don't know the setting.
Lmeo
They're in tree's man the trees
@@jacksonbowns1087 yeah it's desilpunk.
The polanians already have desilpunk guerilla mechs tho.
I could only imagine Teddy Roosevelt standing on top of one of the airships leading from the front.
Yep seems like him.
Since it's Alternate History, not sure who's in charge since US never took part in WW1 (not even the last year) and Alaska is still part of Rusviet/Russian territories.
@@powerist209 he was Just Imaging that as Teddy Roosevelt was such a chad that he could do that probably.
@@powerist209 he probably was a president still. He was the manliest man to ever man. End of question.
@@powerist209 in fact, the great white fleet was specifically ordered under Roosevelt.
I'd just like to point out that General Motors has somehow managed to make giant Mechs in *TWO* different timelines. Come on Prime Timeline GM, get it together!
still no fusion reactor so it looks like we don't live in the BattleTech timeline.
LOL...we are in the darkest timeline not the prime one...
Alternative history GM: we've built mechs and are an industrial giant
Prime timeline GM: needed a government bailout, and doesn't stand out much among it's competitors
I hope a mech made by Chevy is something I get to see in my lifetime lol.
@@PomaiKajiyama Ya know if we were the dark timeline, that'd still be kinda cool. I'm pretty sure we're just the dumb timeline. I mean look at the past four years to really emphasize this point.
"but it is the Edison Electric Company that single handedly that transformed the nature of warfare."
*Angry Nikola Tesla noises*
Other Europeans: Is this a joke?
Is Nikola Tesla present in the lore?
@@MRFlackAttack1 Yes. He was the one who help in making mechs
@@TricksterPoi For which nation? I’m unfamiliar with the lore but I’m interested in learning more?
@@MRFlackAttack1 All of them, if Im not mistaken.
“Build a land where every man may be a king.” Huey long has entered the chat.
Every man a king.
@@ONI_LONI Up with the Stripes! Down with the Traitors!
We shall crush the syndie menace!
Says the one with the CSA profile pic
The Long Dong was definitely foaming when he heard that
The heart of Usonia is represented in the game by the name Mason. George Mason, the father, commands the largest, most powerful airship in the game, he represents the hawkish and capitalistic side of Usonia. His son, William Mason, mans the best exosuit in the game, and represents the freedom-loving egalitarian idealism at the heart of the nation. It's such a great representation of the conflict of the American character.
“Freedom is the only way yeah.”
Oh Saxony your game through, Cuz now you have to answer to
USONIA, FUCK YEAH
is freedom or dead choose wisely
@@itachimex Choose death over fake freedom,anyway of da week and all enturnaity.
Saxon Emperor: "If Usonia invaded, I'd simply have the force arrested."
Usonia: *laughs in airship bombardment*
OPEN FIRE BOYS
Didn't Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse get shot by his son?
His son's a pothead, I don't think he'd be one to stand down.
AAAAALLLLLRIGHT BOYS! LETS BARBECUE SOME SAXIES!
As a marine I shudder at the thought of the parties we'd have if we had mechs lol
🤣🤣🤣 oh god..
“Just the tip of the 8 foot bayonet, dude.”
Well, knowing the reports by the Germans about four Us soldiers that got hammered on Independence day and stole a moped for a joyride.
Yea I’d be pretty scared too.
An American Guest: "I'll tell you, we'll be facing a second civil war within the next ten years."
Another American Guest: "We should be fulfilling our destiny and taking the rest of Mexico, and the land up north too!"
I think the second guest is right
@@davisdelp8131 M A N I F E S T D E S T I N Y
So they did not even name Canada in 1920?
The second guest is right
@@davisdelp8131 you ant getting Mexico and Canada got it boy
"Federal Union of Usonia" is a weird name as "Usonia" means "Lands of the United States", Basically its "The Federal Union of the United States"
It might be a corruption of the original word, a catchall adopted for convenience
@@multiversepatriot3148 I can see it starting as a quick chant
@@rogermon3s141 Imagine “USA! USA!” instead being “USO-NIA! USO-NIA!”
So I can just call the United states Usonia and it'll have the same energy of calling a tomato or tomatoe?
@@CapyMartinBara yes but nobody's ever going to recognize it
just read the wiki page, they added a USA based faction and their story is focused on getting more oil lmao. 10/10
its all about freedom, liberty, expansion and oil
Perf- no… MORE than perfect accuracy
@@lennoxtvthingy7408No it’s not accurate smooth 🧠. In the 1920s, the USA was the largest producer of petrol in the world due to the recent Texas oil boom. It was only after WW2 did it decline
@@drsm7947Except its not accurate smooth 🧠. In the 1920s, the USA was the largest producer of petrol in the world due to the recent Texas oil boom. It was only after WW2 did it decline
Over there, over there, send the word, send the word over there that the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming, the drums rum-tumming every where.
So prepare, say a prayer, send the word, send the word to prepare, cause we won’t come back till it’s over over there.
Johnny get your gun get your gun Johnny show hun your a son of a gun!
More like wanks are coming
What are you doing here commissar you have job to do unless your a, Heretic.
Let the strength of America dispatched
For those who dont know, Aztlán is the mythical place from were the Aztecs were suposed to come from before forming the Aztec empire, and Mexico's real name is the United Mexican States.
also the chicano homeland in more modern contexts
This also helps us Americans use the argument to call ourselves Americans and not united states of Americans which is unessacary.
United States of Mexico = Mexico
United States of America = America.
@@turtley4444 I really don't have a problem with that, only people with inferiority complex have, its like being mad at Centralafricans because their country's name is Central african republic.
@@regulusmuphrid4891 yeah I said that because this is the only place it would make some sense and not just seem out of the blue
Sweet
Kinda wish they had gone with some of the actual propose alternatives to name the US; Columbia or Fredonia. Still cool to see the Western Hemisphere appear in the game now.
Usonia was an actual name alternative
@@argokarrus2731 divergence point located.
The Federal Republic of Columbia... That doesn't sound too bad...
*Fact Is That There Is Already A Country Called Columbia*
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 That country didn’t exist and was still a Spaniard colony when the US gained independence and began shopping for a name.
Fun Fact: The United States actually had flying aircraft carriers. Yes you heard me right, flying aircraft carriers within our very own timeline.
Some blimps with hangers packed inside those biplanes were scouters for the navy
Now the U.S Air force is preparing to prototype convert C-130's into mobile drone carriers.
You mean the abandoned 747 aircraft carrier? Man that shoulda been wack
@@jeffmates1619 Nope, there was a funtional one I believe. I can't remember the name but I think it was a blimp/zepplin.
@@accountname9506 the US Navy had two of those, both of which were destroyed in weather related accidents
From what I can gather, this is FUU military logic: "Oh, you have an enormous army compared to us? Alright, have fun with this fleet of flying battleships!"
That trailer with "Over There" playing was BOSS as fuck
I like how they mad it sound like it was playing over an intercom system as well
@@chugachuga9242 The most American move I can think of
@@JustSumGuy01 not even stealthy. Pretty accurate. During operation desert storm, the American armored division played ride of the valkaries as they crossed into Iraq through the intercom system on Jeep’s.
“The Maine was shot down by more advanced weapons than what Hispania possessed.”
Casuals: Usonia staged it!
Me, an Intellectual: Fenris did it to weaken Hispania and encourage Usonian militirization
EDIT: damn good to see slavery was beaten out earlier than IRL. This might be a slightly better timeline
I wonder why though... Usonia would be harder to take... wait unless they wanted them to enter the fight for Europa and have them distracted.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough Fenris’ ultimate goal is to cause enough chaos and instability to take advantage and seize power. Rasputin is clearly willing to play the long game, and letting Usonia run rampant could demolish many powerful nations. Then it would be easy to cast them down with a Second Civil War if they became a problem. That’s exactly what he did with Rusviet.
@@multiversepatriot3148 the inclusion of Fenris makes every that happens require a second look. I like that
Well It Could Have Also Been Tesla's Troops Even If Unlikely It's Quite The Possibility Ya Know.
The early exit of slavery was a function of the longer revolutionary wars. Slavery didn't really take off in English speaking colonies until the English Civil War of the 1630's. Prior to then demographic pressure and religious/political factionalism had a constant stream of people leaving England who could be used as basic laborers for five to seven years to pay off the purchase of the boat ticket and a plot of land. When the civil wars started up suddenly there was a massive labor shortage and all that stopped. The colonies who were dependent upon exports for survival turned to the only other readily available labor population (given that Native Americans had been decimated by plagues). But, after England came out of the civil wars immigration started back up again.
It was only the states that were run by distant or former nobles who were trying to recreate a "gentry" system that developed and maintained large plantations. These are basically recreations of the English Manor system where you have owners who are low nobility responsible for local governance who as a class mediates between small farmers and craftsmen and the distant national authority. The large clans and marriage-alliances in this pseudo-caste system allowed for these small nobles to monopolize local offices in England. When the civil wars disrupted this and set England on the path to becoming a modern state with national institutions many former royalists of this stratum ended up in the Americas where they set about recreating their old manors using slaves instead of serfs.
The entrenched political power of these elites in our world set us up for entrenched slavery, since this American Gentry class viewed themselves as the best people for the job of politics, particularly state politics. In the story provided instead of having one singular revolutionary war backed in part by this gentry class (Washington himself was closely related to the Fairfields who were gentry in Northern England and instrumental in Parliamentary victory the Civil Wars), they were crushed in a series of revolutionary wars along with the New England old money merchants. This lead to political power being picked up by mid-sized farmers who didn't specialize in export-oriented cash crops and therefore didn't benefit from slavery nearly as much. The end of slavery in the very early 1800's makes a fair bit of sense since the differences in regional economies would have been substantially smaller and lack of a feudal-style elite meant that slavery would have lacked institutional support and centralized leadership in support. The US ended participation in the transatlantic slave trade in 1808 and set up anti-slavery patrols in 1820 in real life. I suspect that without the plantation system being so firmly entrenched that time frame would be reasonable for an end to American slavery period in this alternate.
Amazing job talking about Usonia.
Another thing to add is that I appreciate adding in real-world connections to native americans to the lore, which is something a lot of modern US education likes to skim over or ignore entirely.
Yeah I was expecting him to bring it up at some point while talking about the country’s origins.
I am glad it was mentioned but disappointed the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom is still just a footnote in the grand scheme of things. Usually it is never talked about or spun in a bullshit light, but yea. 50th state still just relegated to just being a tourist destination and military base than the cultural hot spot that it is.
@@HawaiianForgeStudios it is just a footnote. Not sure why you're complaining about Hawaii being a military base and hot tourist attraction (also pretending as if that's all it is). If Hawaii wasn't in the US receiving tons of federal tax dollars every year, it would just be another third-world getaway island with a previous history of being an Imperial Japanese holding.
Lmao 1920s America led by Rosevelt would grind whoever was left into dust
As a Canadian I want to hear more about the Dominion of Laurentia.
I'm guessing it's an alternate history French Canada that named itself after the St. Lawrence river. So Quebec
I do to. And about Atzlan. And how did the various native americans faired in 1920+. And does Brazil still have an emperor? Is Gran Columbia still unified? Are the Mapuche still independent? So many questions about thr Americas of 1920+
Glory to Empire of Veracruz
@@hangebza6625 I'm guessing the rest of the Americas is pretty much the same, Brazil is probably the Empire of Amazonia or something and rivals with it's new robots with the Platense Republic
@@santi2683 i do not think so. Especially if the conquest of mexiko went differently, which is implied due to Atzlan, the entire americam history would be different e.g., as so much of americas conquests by europeans dependend on spains gold rush and other europeans reacting to it. E.g. Usonia founding states had multiple revolutionary wars against various colonizers, not just one against the british, if I understood the vid correctly. So NE east coast must have been under control of various nations then, indicating a different colonialistic history.
And if Alaska is still Rusviet, Usonia, Atzlans and Laurentias borders must be different aa well. Europes are too after all. So why should the south american history be pretty much the same?
We can expect a lot of alternate history from EVERY part of the world with the changes 1920+ created
This sounds like an American faction in WH40K
I'd actually really love a powerful non imperial human faction that isn't just chaos in a mustache.
@@thecruzking me to maybe if the rift had had formed during the Horus heresy some of the fragments could have formed something. that being said I dont think that the dark imperium will do anything that interesting.
They didn't exactly make it much more grimdark than it was in reality. The only real difference in terms of grimdarkness is that Usonia is *slightly* (and I mean slightly) more imperialist than the US was in the early 20th century, where we did indeed start war with Spain under false pretenses to acquire their territories. We did indeed back a Hawaiian coup that lead to a fair amount of deaths and may have gone against the will of the natives. The Trail of Tears and the Wounded Knee massacre were very real.
I do think this video does capture the spiritual sense of American in the early 20th century-- a conflict between the ideals of individual freedom for all people, and expansionism for the sake of self-interest.
@@darrinscott6612 Sounds like we are still living it.
@@thecruzking Well you have the Severan Dominate, a separatist state in the Calixis sector And the "Hounded True" Renegade chapter. maybe not powerful but they're root worthy underdogs.
6:43 and 6:18 are actual historical quotes. "retreat? hell we just got here!" was a quote from american soldier lloyd W. williams. The quote about the army being arrested was actually in reference to the british army in our timelines WW1. it was made by otto von bismark
Lloyd W. Williams:
(From wiki)
During World War One, Captain Williams was assigned to command the division's 51st Company in the 2nd Battalion, 5th Marines Regiment.
On June 3, 1918, a division of Marines was sent to support the French army at the Battle of Belleau Wood. Lloyd Williams was serving as a company commander of 51st Company, 2d Battalion, 5th Marines. As the Marines arrived, they found French troops retreating. When advised to withdraw by a French colonel at the defensive line just north of the village of Lucy-le-Bocage, Williams bluntly replied: "Retreat, Hell! We just got here!"
On June 11, 1918, Williams led an assault that routed the German defenders at Belleau Wood near Chateau-Thierry, France. Only 1 of the 10 officers and 16 of the 250 enlisted men survived or escaped injury. According to a French Major's report, after he ordered Williams to withdraw, Williams told him to "go to hell." Later, when Williams had been gassed and injured by shrapnel and lay wounded on the battlefield, he told the approaching medics, "Don't bother with me. Take care of my good men." He later died from a shell explosion as he was being evacuated.
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Say whatever you will about the dude, man had some real balls of steel
@@WiseStrategist (My Sabaton fan side)....KILL FIGHT DIE THATS WHAT A SOLDIER SHOULD DO!TOP OF THE GAME EARNING THEIR FAME THEY ARE THE DEVIL DOGS!A WAR AND A MACHINE THEY ARE THE USA MARINNNNEEEESSS
The quote about arresting the BEF was made by Kaiser Wilhelm, Bismarck was dead by ww1
I thought it was Ludendorff who said that.
Lloyd Williams was a Marine Lieutenant, not a Soldier smh
"Hey, I see an eagle. It's a Bald Eagle!"
"Oh, it screaming. Fascinating!"
"Wait, why does its size increasing? Maybe it's a huge eagle?"
"Sh*t, it's not an eagle. IT'S USONIAN AIRSHIP!"
Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
The Federalists still exist? Alexander Hamilton didn't die in this timeline then.
Wonder how different the musical would be?
@@michaelsayavong2656 Probably still dogshit since Hamilton was a scum bag even for a Federalist.
As an American, this is very bitter sweet. The ideal we strive for and have fallen short of. The dream is that this is a land where we judge you by what you do not who your parents are, or your race, creed, or gender. Unfortunately, these high words are far easier to say than follow.
True
Where have we gone
Anime pfp, clearly your opinion is invalid.
are we not gonna talk about the Pinkerton agency being a feasable faction
Probably part of Fenris?
Union busting? No, they're in the business of union genocide
You’re a wanted man, mr Morgan
@@d0d0birdiexd78 5000 dollars on your head alone
We will be shouting the battle cry of freedom tonight
7:25 This is the most authentically American atmosphere I have ever seen in artwork
Usonia, Usonia, God shed His grace on thee!
I appreciate KingArt games, and you guys, so much for actually making the consequences of Usonia’s imperialist actions clear. such a realistic and relevant conflict, and you nailed it.
What do you mean, they literally just copy and pasted early United States history and changed United States USA etc to Usonia. It is the most basic overview of all USA history just with mechs.
I love the history iron harvest has built for their game world. I hope they keep doing well and keep adding to it. I also wish there was a mod for HOI4 now that created the iron harvest world in HOI4
So Atzlan is the mythical homeland of the atzecs. Does that mean Iron Harvest aztecs were never defeated? Or that mexico became independent of Hispania via an indegenous revolt? Or was their a indegenous nationalistic movement that formed mexican cultural and political identity stronger than hispanian influences? So many questions so many intrueging possibilities.
i think is probably that the first revolt of hidalgo make it and united states of atzlan become indepedent even before usonia
More likely just a change of name to make it sound different and cool
@@Overlord99762 often it is much more than that.
Saxony was the founder of germany and dresden is the capital for example. And it is called saxony not Germany. So the unification of the German states must have went completly different.
And Francia is still ruled by a king IIRC. Not emperor like napoleon III, not a republic etc. So maybe no revolution happened or was quickly defeated or after Louis XIIX was never driven out of the june Revolution or or or. And if napoleon did not exist, who was himself the result of coin tosses, the entire continental history would be vastly different.
The name changes often imply heavy differences compared to our own, as major events are changed, which lead to domino and runaway effects of their own.
Callingit "Atzlan" doesn't really mean anything, our timelines Mexico is already derived from an Aztec place name. Maybe it's an indigenous majority state, or more likely given the minimal changes being shown, a Mestizo majority state like today.
Nah, the Hispanians were defeated by Lion Jesus, and they decided to name their country in his honor.
"First we conquer you. Then we give you freedom through self government." Usonia
Wow this is very interesting the way they changed their history ever so slightly, they even mention how the USS Maine was probably a setup! They sure did their homework creating this faction!
The latter third reads lines straight out of Dan Carlin's 'The American Peril', which I suppose is a fantastic influence to have. I'd encourage most folks here to give that podcast a listen- if alt-history and viddocs like this are your thing, Dan Carlin's history podcasts will be enjoyable for you.
I really hope that Iron Harvest expands into other game genres. A battlefield sort of fps game taking place in this setting would be amazing.
*"Every Man, a King plays"*
I can't wait for Iron harvest version of Japan.
The mecha samurai will finally fight in world wars.
With 1000 more crimes against humanity
*Mono-Eyed mech noises*.
@@mazeriayong8311 OH no.
I've just found out that Japanese have spider mechs, but they can place traps so oda nobunagas trap tactics could probably work in game.
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 this game is in the same time line as Sakura Wars chronologically.
You know Red Alert 3 got Mecha Samurai so its called lawsuits
5:15 Fun Fact: for those not familiar with US history, these were actual American Political parties that existed. The difference was that the IRL ones were different groups arguing over how the constitution should be written while the in game parties are more like stand ins for the Democrat and Republican parties of today, minus whatever political shenanigans aforementioned parties may or may not be involved in.
Seriously digging the 'Usonian' flag. Want to make a flag cool? Stick an Eagle/Dragon/Wolf on it. ;)
“ *a bunch of alternate names* ...and the Hawaiian Islands...”
Hawaii: Don’t mind me, I’m just chilling here.
Cool take on an alternate version of America and its history. Love that slavery ended and women's suffrage both came early.
Your *Oil* .
Give it.
⛽️
I really hope Iron Harvest introduces naval units or even just Albion as a faction. Just imagine being able to do a D-day in Egypt with Mechs.
Just imagine people screaming, “F-U-U!” instead of “U-S-A!”
I’d imagine it being “U-SO-NIA!”
In the game they say “for the Union”
I must admit the backstory of this alternate history Earth is being fleshed out very well. :)
Honestly idk why video games haven't turned to alternate universes sooner. It's literally endless possibilities for content!
@@noahpaquet8357 The short answer it is a relatively new genre in science fiction. I doubt anyone really thought it would catch on at first. But i think popular novels like World in the Balance really helped it to grow in it's own niche.
A fair amount of it is just events that actually happened with the technology changed around.
@@SephirothRyu This is true.
WHEN THE SKY START SINGING FREEDOM
//I just gonna asked you in one of the stream, look like Kingartgame is faster than me then 🤣👌
Someone has oil
Usonia: In smell Liberation
So Usonia is basically at the half-way mark between the Confederacy and the Union, with a little Steampunk thrown in for good measure....
I'd like to point out that the Usonian walkers that fought for the Polanians at 13:20 basically have the Kosciusko Squadron logo, which is one of many neat historical easter eggs.
I particularly like how the real world attitudes of the nation are woven into this lore.
Seeing America get some Iron Harvest love, plus seeing Iron Harvest itself not be a one-and-done experience, really do bring a smile to my face. And holy cow those soldier concepts look amazing!
Usonia is better version of the USA so let's just hope Iron harvest version of Japan won't do those things.
You know what I mean.
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 I dunno if they're necessarily better. Seems to be a tad more imperialistic than OTL America. And considering we were pretty imperialistic already, that's saying something.
Those are some mighty pleasing airships
Idk why, but these videos make me wish there was a Mass Effect style game (story rich, single player adventure) set in a steampunk universe.
OOORah!
Oh hello did not expect to see you
Also, looking at all the smog coming out of those airships, drones, gunships, and sky bikes I can’t help but think: Good bye, ozone layer!
Yay we found OIL. Time to Conquer!!!!!
No no, it's more like "They need democracy" 🤣
@@williamfranszz1192 We're a Constitutional Republic so FREEDOM!!!!!😏😏😏😏
Did you say O I L
M U R I C A
Conqueror? Don’t you mean ‘liberate’?
@@ronin3381 Ahem... LIBERATE!!! (Thanks)
I think Usonia is my favourite faction in the game so far. From your video it sounds like Usonia had the idealism of our own modern America much earlier on. Abolishing slavery long before the 1860s and establishing votes for women before 1920 and and equal rights for blacks before the 1970s.
"Sheer nerve and bravery bordering on recklessness"... I can live with that.
That’s American to a tee
Over There Intensifies
**Fly's in on giant, fire-spewing airship, over the loudspeakers you here...**
*U-SO-NI-A, FUCK YEAH!!!*
*Oil is discovered in a parallel universe
America: "Oh boy, here I go killing again" *EAGLE FREEDOM SCREECH!!!*
Man, I love how much influence y'all are getting. Usonia looks great!
Where every man can be a king
I GOT THAT LONG REFERENCE!
compared to the other factions the american seems to lack a heavy mech but they compensate with airships instead
I'm considering getting this game because of this video. Thank you!
Hope you enjoy it!
America: who are you?
Usonia: I'm you but better
I hope they don't abandon this game it has so much potential and the next DLC should add a shadow government trying to gain control of Usonia
Well now that it was mentioned in passing, I want to know what Iron Harvest version of Canada is like.
Are we our own Country yet?
Are we all still stereotypically nice?
Do we have cool armoured robots?
Is Quebec trying to basically become another country every few years?
I need to know these things.
I think Canada is divided in the timeline
Really like the alt history presented here! Super close but nicely changed. Would be an amazing book series!
Twas only a matter of time before there's a video tie in to the latest DLC for Iron Harvest, featuring its version of America, a country that speaks loud and carries the biggest stick it could find.
Anyway, I hope we'll see additional factions in Iron Harvest soon, especially ones from Scythe.
ALBION TOGAWA
BOIS, IT'S TIME TO FIND THE OIL
As an American, I'd be totally down for renaming the United States to Usonia
Apperently, that's just another way of saying United states
Better than Fredonia.
@@CapyMartinBara still at least people won't have to call us "united statsians" in the Americas anymore. Legit they call us that.
I still prefer the United States as a name...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 fair enough, though as a nationality identifier, calling US citizens ‘Usonians’ would make more sense than ‘Americans’. “American” without context just seems confusing, and probably a bit arrogant with context. Imagine if people in France called themselves Europeans and just expected everyone else to know that it refers to one nation rather than the whole continent.
Ok now,
WHERE IS THE OIL?
OIL THAT SHIT IS MINE
1:43
*Huey Long has entered the chat*
I will never not understand how this channel doesn't have at least a million subscribers.
Ya'll do such amazing work and any video ya'll put out I like before I even watch it simply because I know I'll like it.
Yet again Tesla and Edison are fighting about who is better. TESLA IS BETTER
Tesla for life!
@@dekuthetechpriestoflondon6791 I want to report you for being a great guy.
Yeah, but Edison was more of marketing and infrastructure guy. He didn't need to invent. He was the guy who got other people's ideas actually made and sold them. The fact that he took credit for literally everything was a part of marketing, and while it was a dick move and he was an ass personally there was still a method behind all of it.
@@Aesoporific Yep and he knew how to sell so even if he copied something strait from another scientist he would make like 5 times the amount of money.
I’m for both Tesla and Edison.
Quality content, with a truely amazing origin.
I've long wondered what the American equivalent in 1920+ would look like and now we'll get to see it!
Inb4 we get a British Empire DLC (seriously looking forward to it, if it happens)
Sweet, I wonder how many 1920+ nations we will see.
the way they were shouldering those rifles in the gameplay clip is going to leave a lot of one eyed infantrymen.
"Congratulations, here's y'all democracy!"
"But we didn't ask for it! All you've given us is a collapsed economy, a power vacuum and a hardened insurgency!"
"HERE. IS. YOUR. DEMOCRACY. Now play nice, and you're welcome to ask anything from Ol' Uncle Sam! Except for more foreign aid or military intervention, it messes with our poll numbers if we don't go home in a victory parade."
“Oh, by the way. We reinstalled your old Genocidical officials, and we completely ignored your culture. Have Fun”
*”... ARE YOU SHITTING ME?!*
@@CrisisHedgehog In light of the Afghanistan withdrawal, this somehow hits even harder.
@@utubrGaming You simply don't *leave* Afghanistan; no one easily leaves...
@@CrisisHedgehog you can if you're Alexander the Great or Genghis Khan.
But there's no singular uniting Princess of Bactria to marry and grant your army safe passage, and the Genghis Khan approach is frowned upon.
holy shit, an America that ignores race and only looks at loyalty but suffers imperialistic ambitions.
this should be in the next Call of Duty game
An America that would try and ignore their founding Anglo-Saxon community and tried to import every single ethnic group from the entire world would’ve collapsed from ethnic tensions by the time of their OTL civil war. Chances are that their immigration is still restricted to only Northwestern Europeans despite the flowery narrative from TI.
I hope for an italian kingdom, a french empire or a spanish state in a future dlc
I wonder what will they rename italy into
@@rafflyaulia4237They could either name them Italia or something else
This seems like the kinda country my great grandpa would have wanted to live in.
The containing expansion 1920+ // Iron Harvest is quite wonderous.
I am looking for to see what shall occur now that the yanks have gone "Over There" to Europa.
everybody gangsta till the air warships begin singing it aint me
Hear me out... a channel that gives modern and historical nations, the same treatment that the Templin Institute gives fiction.
Imagine the reaction of most Americans being told that in Usonia, the Republicans and Democrats are one combined political party!
They used to be. The Democratic-Republican Party dissolved in 1834.
Finally!!!! The iron harvest version of Merica. All that's missing is the Uk, France, China, and Japan.
I'd love to have Albion, the Frankish Republic, and the Togawa Shogunate in iron harvest. Though I believe in lore at least in Scythe the Shogunate controls the vast majority of asia.
I would want to know what happens to the Balkan region as well. Is Tesla's Factory a city state? Does Yugoslavia exist with Romania, Bulgaria, Greece and Albania? Does the Balkan region stretch to Constantinople? or are the Balkans a Federation or Coalition borne from the Balkan Wars?
@@darthvendar6841 apparently, Frankia, or the kingdom of Franks, by it's name suggests, is a monarchy
Im just stumbled upon this game on yt, and want to know the lore is, it seems like its incomplete, do they have plans for the british?
"God bless you, and God bless the Federal Union of Usonia"
I wonder if technology would have developed more toward walkers if we simply never discovered rubber
Is it me or do their two-legged mechs look like they are on the verge of falling over with every step?