Glad I watched this. Two things that break this expansion-expansion for me: 1) broken roads. Our group HATES this (as the "Earthquake" event card) and have a house rule where this card has no effect. 2) Having to sail to another island only to build up a knight army that may or may not defeat dragons based on their power sounds TEDIOUS AF! Thanks for the heads up.
A group of dragons is called a THUNDER, due to the fact that all their wings beating makes a sound like rolling thunder. Though I've always referred to a group of dragons (either on the ground or flying) as a Flight of Dragons! I suppose this comes from books I read as a young teenager, specifically The Dragonlance Chronicles.
Best explanation of pronunciation ever! Looks like it's a "weyr of dragons", where "weyr" is a collection of dragons, riders, and support staff in Anne McCaffrey's The Dragon Riders of Pern.
(pure facts!) Surely the term of venery for dragons must predate McCaffrey? And it sounds like a "weyr" describes, like... the king's progress, if the king rode dragons instead of horses?
We’ve been playing hobby board games for years, but we only played Catan for the first time a few weeks ago. We liked it a lot, and my son asked for a copy for his birthday (I picked up the 20th anniversary edition). Our FLGS recently got this expansion, and I thought, “Hey, there’s dragons- I like dragons!” But after watching this fantastic video, it just doesn’t look all that fun. So, there’s some money saved. 😅 But am I the only one who thinks the backs of the canal tokens look like bacon? 😄
This piqued my interest as the scenario has appeared on my product ads on UA-cam. I have both seafarers and c+k. My whole family loves catan. We've all developed a good understanding for both expansions. Hoping to get this soon.
A few important things you forgot to mention: -This is the first time TD&A was released in English. -In THE GREAT CANAL, settlements cannot be built on the small islands. Instead, your had to send Knights in order to collect from the Gold hexes, and use the 2:1 ports there. -Also, for the canal you need 21 points in 3-player, 19 for 4-Player. -Similar thing in ENCHANTED LAND: 21 points in 3-player, 18 in 4-player. Alternatively, slaying 6 Dragons will also get you the win.
A quick history of all the scenarios, since you didn't cover everything: #1: TREASURE ISLANDS: Original to the video games (specifically PC and Nintendo DS). Is currently available in Catan Universe. #2: DEPARTURE INTO THE UNKNOWN: Original specifically to TD&A, has appeared no where else. NOT available in Catan Universe #3: THE DESERT DRAGONS: First appeared in 1997, in "Catan-News" (old official magazine, German only), republished in english on the old University of Catan website, and appeared again in the German collections "Das Buch zum Spielen" (from 2000) and "Atlantis" (2005). Back then, it was known as THE DESERT RIDERS, which were just another kind of desert bandits, functions the same. Name changed when included in TD&A. NOT available in Catan Universe. #4: GREATER CATAN: First appeared in 1997, in "Catan-News". This was before Seafarers! So you built 'bridges', instead of ships. It was then included in Seafarers, up until the 3rd Edition, the 4th and 5th don't have it. Reason is that in every previous instance it required TWO copies of the base game to function. Currently available in Catan Universe. #5: THE GREAT CANAL: First appeared in 2003, in "Catan-News". Was also one of the Dutch 'Six Scenarios'. Currently available in Catan Universe. #6: ENCHANTED LAND: FIrst appeared in 2001, in "Catan-News". The dragons used to be Pirate Ghosts guarding treasure. Currently available in Catan Universe.
I run a league in town. So everyone in our league would be interested in it. Myself have never played the PC version, I don't own a sufficient PC laptop or home computer.
HOW DID YOU ALREADY GET THIS PRODUCT! It's not supposed to be shipped out until next month! I guess I'll be sharing this on the Catan reddit, I don't believe anyone else is aware of this.
Thanks, Sebby19! i was fortunate enough for Catan Studio to include me in their early press preview. Thanks for catching my omissions... i think i received the game only a day or two before the press embargo lifted, and i wanted to be among the first to profile the new game!
@@NightsAroundaTable Not only are you 'among the first', I took a look around UA-cam. Currently, you are the ONLY ONE who has a video about (english) TD&A in detail. Congrats on being first! Now you have license to comment 'First!' on everyone else's video, who covers this game. (/sarcasm. Please don't actually do that) EDIT: Until someone else release a video, I'll have to assume you are the only person in Canada who has TD&A, right now!
@@Sebby_Nineteen Fantastic! i was planning on doing more with it, but there was a bit of a mix-up with my copy of Seafarers. (i only own a much older edition that isn't compatible with the new stuff.) But once that arrives, expect more Catan content here in the near future!
@@NightsAroundaTable Status update, you are still the only one. Doing a new search only turned up a couple unboxings, one being from Catan's own channel. Kinda surprised actually, the thing has been out in the wild since mid-July now.
I noticed that it says 6 sea/desert hex and 12 land hex. What are the backs of the 12 land hex. Are they sea as well, or are they white/blank as in the kosmos version. If they have a sea back, then this would be another improvement in this version.
@@jessicahuitz1691 , first of all I want to tell you that we loved the expansion. There are 6 scenarios and 5 of them are great. We did not like or did not understand scenario 3 but the rest are fabulous. The mistakes are not big and this is what I wrote to them: 1. Page 6 (for 4 players): Considering the mentioned total pieces, it seems that the components for the Main Islands and Treasures Islands are "inverted" 2. Page 19 Rules Adaptations: "...knights that stand on an intersection between three SEA hexes..." Does it mean that knights can freely be placed on the sea as if they were swimming? I got answer from Catan Studio and they wrote: 1. Future printings will have updated rulebooks 2. They cannot be placed in the sea 3. No, there is not a plan to create a 5-6 player extension. But the expansion is in general great.
@@gabrielaenriquezderiverade2489 thank you for your answers!!!! This is the one I’ve been eyeing for a while!! I’m getting cities & knights first so this one is next! I’m hoping they release a 5-6 player extension soon.
@@jessicahuitz1691 , well... they wrote that they are not planning to develop a 5-6 extension but somewhere I read ideas from fans to play certain scenarios with 5-6... About getting Cities & Knights: My husband, son and son-in-law are Cities & Knights fans but I must warn you that the game can become kind of aggressive and we had to learn to consider that "it is just a game" because me and our daughter used to kind of get mad. It is a fantastic but tough game if you are the "competitive kind" of family 😉😉😉
Check page 9: Greater Catan scenario: "In addition, each player receives the 4 cities in their color from Treasures, Dragons & Adventurers, which allows them to build a total of 8 cities."
@@NightsAroundaTable Nice! It’s kind of like Big Foot. We may never know for sure if it exists. All we have is some choppy sound and grainy footage as proof. Haha.
"Because I have a beard." Best reason for a pronunciation difference. Ever.
I don't have a beard but I am irish so he's right
Russel Crowe doing a Catan review? That man always pops up where least expected. Maximus is back!
And chubbier than ever!
When you were describing the Catan superfan. That was so relatable, it's definetly me. Thanks for the review!
Glad I watched this. Two things that break this expansion-expansion for me: 1) broken roads. Our group HATES this (as the "Earthquake" event card) and have a house rule where this card has no effect. 2) Having to sail to another island only to build up a knight army that may or may not defeat dragons based on their power sounds TEDIOUS AF! Thanks for the heads up.
A group of dragons is called a THUNDER, due to the fact that all their wings beating makes a sound like rolling thunder.
Though I've always referred to a group of dragons (either on the ground or flying) as a Flight of Dragons! I suppose this comes from books I read as a young teenager, specifically The Dragonlance Chronicles.
Dragonlance... now THERE is a name i haven't heard in a long, long time. (Far-off Ben Kenobi stare)
Arigon!
Neat Fact!
Best explanation of pronunciation ever!
Looks like it's a "weyr of dragons", where "weyr" is a collection of dragons, riders, and support staff in Anne McCaffrey's The Dragon Riders of Pern.
(pure facts!)
Surely the term of venery for dragons must predate McCaffrey? And it sounds like a "weyr" describes, like... the king's progress, if the king rode dragons instead of horses?
The treasure Islands and Greater Catan are two of my favorite games on Catan Universe, Greater Catan is to 20 Victory points so never give up!
Kid was watching over my shoulder. "Who's that?" That's Ryan. "He's got a cool beard" hence 0:20
also I would name it a voracity of dragons
We should come down firmly and call it "a beard of dragons."
We’ve been playing hobby board games for years, but we only played Catan for the first time a few weeks ago. We liked it a lot, and my son asked for a copy for his birthday (I picked up the 20th anniversary edition). Our FLGS recently got this expansion, and I thought, “Hey, there’s dragons- I like dragons!” But after watching this fantastic video, it just doesn’t look all that fun. So, there’s some money saved. 😅
But am I the only one who thinks the backs of the canal tokens look like bacon? 😄
Totally totally totally. i think it's because "canal" in German is the English word for bacon. And also, because i just made that up.
I feel like a pack of dragons should be called a horde.
Late to the game, but I thought a pack of dragons was called a flight
This piqued my interest as the scenario has appeared on my product ads on UA-cam. I have both seafarers and c+k. My whole family loves catan. We've all developed a good understanding for both expansions. Hoping to get this soon.
Dip back here if you do and share what you thought of it!
A _Flight_ of Dragons.
I say Cuh-tan because I have a beard, too!
HAIGH FAIVE!
A few important things you forgot to mention:
-This is the first time TD&A was released in English.
-In THE GREAT CANAL, settlements cannot be built on the small islands. Instead, your had to send Knights in order to collect from the Gold hexes, and use the 2:1 ports there.
-Also, for the canal you need 21 points in 3-player, 19 for 4-Player.
-Similar thing in ENCHANTED LAND: 21 points in 3-player, 18 in 4-player. Alternatively, slaying 6 Dragons will also get you the win.
i believe you!
Would love to know when the 5-6 dragons' expansion is coming
A quick history of all the scenarios, since you didn't cover everything:
#1: TREASURE ISLANDS: Original to the video games (specifically PC and Nintendo DS). Is currently available in Catan Universe.
#2: DEPARTURE INTO THE UNKNOWN: Original specifically to TD&A, has appeared no where else. NOT available in Catan Universe
#3: THE DESERT DRAGONS: First appeared in 1997, in "Catan-News" (old official magazine, German only), republished in english on the old University of Catan website, and appeared again in the German collections "Das Buch zum Spielen" (from 2000) and "Atlantis" (2005). Back then, it was known as THE DESERT RIDERS, which were just another kind of desert bandits, functions the same. Name changed when included in TD&A. NOT available in Catan Universe.
#4: GREATER CATAN: First appeared in 1997, in "Catan-News". This was before Seafarers! So you built 'bridges', instead of ships. It was then included in Seafarers, up until the 3rd Edition, the 4th and 5th don't have it. Reason is that in every previous instance it required TWO copies of the base game to function. Currently available in Catan Universe.
#5: THE GREAT CANAL: First appeared in 2003, in "Catan-News". Was also one of the Dutch 'Six Scenarios'. Currently available in Catan Universe.
#6: ENCHANTED LAND: FIrst appeared in 2001, in "Catan-News". The dragons used to be Pirate Ghosts guarding treasure. Currently available in Catan Universe.
A Thunder of Dragons
Damn I didn't know about that expansion, thanks!
It's "new"!
It's supposed to ship out in July!
I run a league in town. So everyone in our league would be interested in it. Myself have never played the PC version, I don't own a sufficient PC laptop or home computer.
For sure! Like i said, it's designed for Catan die-hards like you and your league.
A group of Dragons is called a Thunder. Now gimme prizes
There will be prizes shortly!
HOW DID YOU ALREADY GET THIS PRODUCT!
It's not supposed to be shipped out until next month!
I guess I'll be sharing this on the Catan reddit, I don't believe anyone else is aware of this.
Thanks, Sebby19! i was fortunate enough for Catan Studio to include me in their early press preview. Thanks for catching my omissions... i think i received the game only a day or two before the press embargo lifted, and i wanted to be among the first to profile the new game!
@@NightsAroundaTable Not only are you 'among the first', I took a look around UA-cam. Currently, you are the ONLY ONE who has a video about (english) TD&A in detail.
Congrats on being first! Now you have license to comment 'First!' on everyone else's video, who covers this game.
(/sarcasm. Please don't actually do that)
EDIT: Until someone else release a video, I'll have to assume you are the only person in Canada who has TD&A, right now!
@@Sebby_Nineteen Fantastic! i was planning on doing more with it, but there was a bit of a mix-up with my copy of Seafarers. (i only own a much older edition that isn't compatible with the new stuff.) But once that arrives, expect more Catan content here in the near future!
@@NightsAroundaTable Oh ya, I didn't consider you didn't have modern Seafarers yet.
@@NightsAroundaTable Status update, you are still the only one. Doing a new search only turned up a couple unboxings, one being from Catan's own channel.
Kinda surprised actually, the thing has been out in the wild since mid-July now.
Late to the party, but how about calling a group a dance of dragons? It fits the criteria for being both needlessly strange AND a nerdy reference.
A group of dragons is a horde of hoarders.
(coming up next on HGTV)
How about for 5-6 players? Anyone has a link where to get that from?
I thought that was velcro behind the treasure token haha
It’s actually two sticks of really old gum from a pack of 1985 Topps trading cards you bought on eBay.
I might not be a good player or have many games under my belt, but I’ve already collected every expansion, and want more so eh, why the hell not
I wonder, is there some kind of europe version? Since european catan looks diffrent for whatever reason
Yes - the pieces in European versions of Catan are apparently plastic…?
@@NightsAroundaTable but what about tresures dragons and adventures?
Should do a reaction video to seeing the price of Catan 3D. :)
i haven't looked! i only saw the announcement. What's the damage?
@@NightsAroundaTable $300 USD
@@ScytheNoire HOTCHA MAMA! Am i right in remembering that the original 3D Catan treasure chest thing was up over $300 CAD back in the day?
Can you do "How to Play: Catan Seafarers" please!! Love your videos!!
i'm working on it! The script is 3/4 done!
Seafarers is my favorite expansion! Lots of really fun scenarios. And a “gold mine” hex where you can choose your resource.
I haven’t played Catan but this looks cool.
If you haven't played the base game, this would definitely be like drinking from the firehose!
I noticed that it says 6 sea/desert hex and 12 land hex. What are the backs of the 12 land hex. Are they sea as well, or are they white/blank as in the kosmos version. If they have a sea back, then this would be another improvement in this version.
Sea on the back!
he looks like he could be Jake Baldino's dad (from youtube channel gameranx)
It’s a thunder of dragons
Den of dragons
Sheldon Cooper pronounces it the same way as you.
It's called a rawr of dragons
i don't think this is the right answer, but it certainly FEELS like it.
We found some errors in the Dragons ' expansion. Have you noticed them?
i haven't played yet! What are the errors?
What errors did you find?! I want to buy it so I’m curious
@@jessicahuitz1691 , first of all I want to tell you that we loved the expansion. There are 6 scenarios and 5 of them are great. We did not like or did not understand scenario 3 but the rest are fabulous. The mistakes are not big and this is what I wrote to them: 1. Page 6 (for 4 players): Considering the mentioned total pieces, it seems that the components for the Main Islands and Treasures Islands are "inverted"
2. Page 19 Rules Adaptations: "...knights that stand on an intersection between three SEA hexes..." Does it mean that knights can freely be placed on the sea as if they were swimming?
I got answer from Catan Studio and they wrote:
1. Future printings will have updated rulebooks
2. They cannot be placed in the sea
3. No, there is not a plan to create a 5-6 player extension.
But the expansion is in general great.
@@gabrielaenriquezderiverade2489 thank you for your answers!!!! This is the one I’ve been eyeing for a while!! I’m getting cities & knights first so this one is next! I’m hoping they release a 5-6 player extension soon.
@@jessicahuitz1691 , well... they wrote that they are not planning to develop a 5-6 extension but somewhere I read ideas from fans to play certain scenarios with 5-6... About getting Cities & Knights: My husband, son and son-in-law are Cities & Knights fans but I must warn you that the game can become kind of aggressive and we had to learn to consider that "it is just a game" because me and our daughter used to kind of get mad. It is a fantastic but tough game if you are the "competitive kind" of family 😉😉😉
What are the extra cities for? I was hoping you would tell that, but I can find no mention of the use for the extra cities in the rule book.
Check page 9:
Greater Catan scenario: "In addition, each player receives the 4 cities in their color from Treasures, Dragons & Adventurers, which allows them to build a total of 8 cities."
A dungeon of dragons
I want to hear a “10” on the Box Fart-O-Meter.
i don't. i can't handle the eardrum damage. i think the highest of all-time on the channel was a 7? 7.5?
You and me both brotha
Here you go:
ua-cam.com/video/yAbmwcLPHRQ/v-deo.html
@@NightsAroundaTable Nice! It’s kind of like Big Foot. We may never know for sure if it exists. All we have is some choppy sound and grainy footage as proof. Haha.
@@benjoslin3782 Yes. It was probably just someone off-camera.
A thunder of dragons!
Hey - remember Thundarr the Barbarian?
@@NightsAroundaTable hahaha I would if I weren’t born in ‘89!
@@TheLimestoneCowboy Age doesn't matter. Thundarr is in all our hearts.
@@NightsAroundaTable 💯, I gotta go check it out now 🤙🏽
@@TheLimestoneCowboy Uh-oh. Manage expectations. It was the 80's. Saturday morning was a cocaine-fueled fever dream.
Can you compare this box fart-o-meter to a puny fart? (Not a pun)
Good stuff! One less to the 100K. I have way more to go than you.
Thanks, @fenirob! Slow and steady wins the race!
Are you Russell Crowe?
Yyyyy……yyyyyyyyes.
@@NightsAroundaTable I knew it ))
first of all it's catan not catan
yeah, but i pronounce it catan