Will The Snyder Cut Be...Good?
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- Recently it was revealled the Snyder Cut of Justice League 2017 is coming to HBO Max in 2021 completely retooling the Joss Whedon version. Touted as a very long movie or a mini series tens of millions of dollars are being added to complete the original vision. Should be good right? RIGHT? Thanks for watching.
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“what if he ends this on a cliffhanger and then they have to do another one? maybe it becomes the knightmare universe we saw in batman v superman.” i can’t believe mason got it almost completely right
WB might have already said another one isn't coming but I expect HBO to push hard for a sequel so I haven't given up hope just yet.
@@jmaguire2232 rip
@@Tom-fw2ls Whoops. I only really care about the Reeves stuff and am excited to see what Gunn does so I’m all right lol
@@jmaguire2232 that's like the perfect mindset, same here :)
he even guessed they would make a black and white version!
The Maclunky line that cavil is gonna record is gonna bring this masterpiece together
nice.
I agree
@@dindjarin5620 I was hoping for Kenobi...Why are YOU here ?
Wrong, he already recorded it and now synder finally gets to put it in the finished film
And then when he punches darkseid he'll yell out a krayt dragon yell. It's going to be glorious.
Can’t believe they released the “You Should Probably Move Cut”
Director's Cuts Extended Universe.
@@TheVladMan. hahaha good one. Only if WB would stop with meddling.
@Leewilldofine Ughh god... cringe.
Ummm why would we like to move on anyways? We wanted to see the version of the film that we were promised and we will finally see it.
Hate all you wanna hate, you'll still be watching it anyways. #WeWon
JosephTheCastle he’s talking about the Cyborg dialogue where he says “you should probably move” that got cut off the movie but was in the trailer
Cyborg: "You should probably mov-"
Superman: "MACLUNKY"
Just like Zack Snyder intended
Cyborg shot first!
Nero Metal Unfunny
The first time I watched the original cut of Justice League I was with a girl and we got so bored I ended up losing my virginity, so yeah, I’ll be 100% supportive of the Snyder Cut, I owe him that
Lol. That beats hopping in a time machine to 1998 and watching me get only a little over the clothes action while watching Affleck in
Armageddon.
damn
I hear you. mine was during the unfinished leak of X-men Origins Wolverine with the green screen and wires
Daniel Born lol I really wanted to do that animal cookie thing he did on whatsername’s midriff
As Aquaman said... “My man!”
One thing's for certain: we will all have fun with it.
Exactly. If it’s good, it’s good, which is good. If it’s bad, it’ll be fun to make fun of, which is fun. It’s a win-win imo
Patrick Murphy I like this take, positive no matter what
"I had fun with it" has become the new stock phrase people use when a movie's mindless and terrible.
True, in one way or another
Perhaps the real Snyder cut is the friendship we made all along.
Will Henry Cavill's mustache be revealed as one of Darkseid's underlings?!?!
Fo shizzle.
henry cavill didnt had mustache when he was working with zack during the first times of production. then the production changed and meanwhile henry had to have mustache which was whedon version. check behind the scene from zack and you clearly see henry didnt had any mustache yet.. and if it will be they will add beard for sure after all the negativity of deleting mustache
@@kainkabil6393 WE KNOW
@@ThreadBomb I SAID TO OP. WHY U SHOUT??
It's your pubes that will be revealed as one of Darkseid's underlings
James ‘it’s entirely possible’ Clement
The "it's entirely possible" ilities are endless.
reminds me of Rogan
James Clement from Flight of the Conchords?
Am I the only one who thinks they should reboot but make the new team young justice it makes more sense
I’m mean it’s 4-6 hours of “unreleased footage “ it’s not really a cut at this point . It’s an entirely different film
At 4 to 6 hours. It dosn't seem like a film. But more like a sleeping aid.
Any movie is "unreleased footage" until it's released.
@@ThreadBomb right. That seemed a bit redundant. Lol
It is. Fabien Wagner, the cinematographer of JL said that only 10% of the movie that was released was Syder's footage. The 4-6h footage they're mentioning is the assembly cut which is a normal length for any movie before being cut and edited for release. The length of the actual film was supposed to be 214min or 3.5h. WB put a mandatory 2h limit so Snyder removed 1.5h of scenes. Then with the remaining 2h, Joss Whedon reshot 90%
Note how the official name isn't Justice League Director's cut but Zack Snyder's Justice League. It's a completely different film.
alwaysxnever exactly what I was thinking 🤣 like I had to read that twice like TF🤣🤣🤔
I can't wait for the "MakeJusticeLeague2" hashtag in 2021...
One can only dream
Nobody's care about Zack Snyder's Justice League
Uh, we've got #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
So, I guess you're right
I am so tired.
It's not gonna happen because they've barely advertised this and it's not going to help their service that much.
Remember when directors cut’s just came on the dvd
Yeah LotR Extended Editions were grande and more Epic
This really goes beyond a normal directors cut though. It seems like it will be a completely different film almost
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero Yeah this is kind of an unprecedented situation. We have no clue how much Whedon had to finish or decided to change after Snyder had to leave, so It's really a mystery. But also the fact that they can only record new dialogue would seem to limit how much they can actually change the story. I have no predictions of whether it will be better, but it is exciting to see.
@@blaggzear3152 and the collectors editon came with statues of minith tirith,the argonath and gollum on a rock with a fish.i had the gollum statue.ex girlfriend never gave me that back...
bitch🤣
an example of a bad director's cut is Amadeus
because the director's cut is completely inferior to the original theatrical release
but sadly no one can watch it on dvd
Maybe we'll see every thug shoot first at batman before he shoots them.
And they all say, “Maclunkey”.
Dude !! i understood that reference
@@micahwright5901 A giant CGI dinosaur blocks the entire view of a busy street in gotham
@@r7diego haha gracias x
@@tomimpala ah 2020.
Going to be hard to top riots.
My Snyder Cut is just Aquaman yelling "YEAH" and "MY MAN" for 4 hours straight. MAKE IT HAPPEN HBO OR YOUR HACKS!!! #ReleaseTheMyManCut.
You're*
LETS GO
YES. And then after that I demand the Snyder Cut of Cyborg yelling "BOOYA" for 4 hours straight. #ReleaseTheBooyaCut
Their what?
They should also add in more "martha"s
I’m glad he held up to his promise on the “you should probably move part” 😂😂
They could have fixed the mustache so easily just by making it into a beard....
And given him long hair and cut the stupid cell phone video
They would have had to then add the mustach and beard to the other scenes in the film. Might has been a different cg snafu.
@@alwaysxnever if snapchat can do it, im sure the professionals could do well with it.
@@alwaysxnever Adding cg to scenes compared to removing with cg is infinitely easier and looks better.
@@alwaysxnever lol you mean the scenes that they were already reshooting? lol there's maybe 1 or 2 superman scenes that are from Snyder. Every other scene was a Whedon reshoot.
1:13 I never knew how much I wanted to see Gal Gadot in Batman’s cowl.
Li-Li Mandragon So cute
That's kinda kinky
@Badass Dan NO.
Dude that was terrifying
#RELEASETHEYOUSHOULDPROBABLYMOVECUT
This could be one of the greatest April Fools pranks
A part of me really hopes it is and when “Zack Snyder’s Justice League” hits HBO Max it ends up being the 2017 theatrical cut. I think that would be funny
@@r520jr8 why? What is wrong with you people?
@@larryjake7783 They are so sad they need to ruin other's joy to enjoy themselves.
I'd sooner believe it to be a publicity stunt than some kind of joke. Neither would turn out well for HBO Max. They either have to deliver or risk losing subscribers.
@@r520jr8 You're sick do not reproduce.
Can’t wait for people to debate wether Batman or that one Parademon shot first
You have the Snyderbots who'll keep saying " Snyder makes masterpiece which is too deep for common minds " until they die. That's dedication.😂
And so what if they say. Aren't people allowed to love a movie and director?
@@raymondmadrid Yes they can love a director, the thing is they don't accept the mistakes Snyder makes. He's not a flawless director.
@@aishikmukherjee8438 what mistakes? as far as i know no director is perfect. If they believe snyder is their god director let them they ain't doing nothing wrong. The one doing wrong are people hating snyder and his films just because of his fans? He may not be the best director but he's a good person everyone says good thing about him cope with his cinematography ofc people will love him.
@@raymondmadrid Yes he's a very good cinematographer and a nice person.. but he's wrong about the characters at many points. His fans just want to smash those people who point out a mistake in his film.
And ofc they love trashing Marvel.
@@aishikmukherjee8438 wrong about his characters? In what sense because they aren't 100% comic book accurate? Tell that to marvel who even them have changed their characters. Live actions are different if he didn't understood his characters why was man of steel focus on clark kent humanity and purpose of life? Bruce wayne in bvs rage and past. His purpose in that movie was to side with humans as superman being a threat. Btw mcu turds aren't different they bash everything not marvel related when they don't even know the characters in comics books. (I say mcu because marvels fans who read comics and know storylines and character at least appreciate dc characters)
Maso is 100% right about Snyder cut fans being under EVERYTHING. Like I'm happy for them and Snyder but I'm also happy I don't have to see #releasethesnydercut under any and all tweets
Same here. That it annoys all the right people on top of giving fans what they want is gravy.
After it releases on HBO Max and everyone hates it, #releasetheREALsnydercut will start trending after Zack makes more excuses on Twitter for why his films suck. Just wait.
#ReleasetheAyerCut is now a thing. People want another cut of Suicide Squad.
The Ayer Cut is not gonna be good either, he wrote that script in 6 weeks it was poorly written from the start
Then stay of the internet, kid.
Considering I wasn’t the biggest fan of Man of Steel, and thought BvS was awful, I doubt I’ll enjoy Zack’s vision realized. That being said, I’m glad he at least gets to realize his vision.
Colin Akers Akers Feels like the exact scenario that’ll backfire on the over-zealous fans gunning for this but be a huge boon for HBO max
BvS ultimate edition is legit
@Kevin Michaud actually lol no it actually improves it
For people who hate it, it is still bad but it makes it better
@@FreyaEinde nsh fans are going to still dig it
Quetzal 24 the ultimate cut adds absolutely nothing. There’s like 3 extra shots of blood to justify an unneeded R rating, and a shot of Batman’s ass.
I can't wait to see Maso cheering to see "you really should move."
Probably* and I agree
Big Facts!
Would love for the cliffhanger to be that the Flash breaks time, resulting in multiple DCEUs: The Batman (main universe), Injustice/Knightmare, and Crime Syndicate (played by ARROWVERSE actors, plus Cavill as Ultraman).
Snyder can make a couple Injustice movies, in parallel with the other universes, and then the Crisis happens the bring everything back together in 10 years or so...
Do it right, and you could have a main timeline AND an anthology series at the same time..!
With the news of AT&T wanting Michael Keaton to come back and possibly offering Affleck a Batman show on HBO Max, your prediction may come true.
@@fattiger6957 I SO hope so...
@Kai McCook he is actually coming back in the next flash movie coming 2022
So I watched the Snyder cut last night and legit lost my shit when you should probably move came on
Best part of the Snyder cut being released is that I won’t have to hear people complain about the Snydercut not being released anymore
@@thoomolong And Yet none of those movies could top a billion until they Dumped Snyder. I mean Snyder's Drepressing Batman and Superman movies got beat out at the box office by a silly Aquaman movie. AQUAMAN the guy who talks to fish.
@@Lone432345 Things may be potentially different though if WB would actually release Synder's movies. The movies that get beat, aren't even full films, they are WBs re edits, and they have shot themselves in the foot multiple times by doing it. The director cuts of his movies are far better than WBs theatrical edits.
We also wont have to hear people arguing that the Snyder cut doesn't exist anymore
@@L3monsta only reason people were saying that is because of the release the sc hashtag
@@thoomolong Yeah, and literally no one was making the argument that such an undertaking wouldn't need to be taken to release the snydercut. Arguing "the snydercut doesnt exist" to people saying "release the snydercut" is completely pointless and does nothing but waste peoples time.
If Snyder Ends his Justice League ends on a Cliff Hanger
That would be easily one of the BIGGEST Power Moves in Film History
If they don't change the story then it's going to end in somewhat of a cliffhanger, but seeing as Snyder has plans to add scenes and even use the old design for Steppenwolf then maybe he was given the go ahead to add more stuff from the original script that was never filmed.
After the success of Aquaman. DC would be nuts to crawling back to Snyder.
Lone Star Aquaman is a MCU Thor rip-off ... minus making money, Aquaman is not a good money ... Snyder made Aquaman a badass warrior, WB turned him into a beer drinking goofball (MCU Thor)
@@Lone432345 Dumbass Wan worked with Snyder on Aquaman. He worked even more on Wonder Woman. He cast both of them. Without Snyder WB don't even have those two successful franchises IDIOT.
@KNIGHT RIDER ok but that doesn't change the fact that dc would have to be nuts to crawl back to zack snyder after the critical success of shazam and the critical and box office success of joker
Title missed opportunity: "Will Snyder Cut be... Super. Or Will it do justice? Will it cut it? Will it league my justice?"
Sounds like dad puns
@@AceWerewolf perfect for them so
"Will we still be all in?"
The title is so dumb they need to rename it to yours asap
I hate you so much right now
I’m just happy that blue light beam will finally get his scenes shown in the Snyder cut, so talented
I can't believe they cut all of Blue light beam's lines
Ya it was better than good
They fight for a bit and then they're all M8's… 2
Sounds like every Marvel movie lol
@@Bleepbloopbz Civil War and Infinity War ended how again?
Thats every super hero movie & TV show
Fla la la la la la la la he he he he he bang bongbin boom
@@Bleepbloopbz stop being salty, dc will get their spotlight eventually lol
Based on comments made by James at 9:43, I can only assume the Australian system of measuring interest levels is as follows:
Get in the bin mate
Nah doubt I’ll bother
Might give this a go
I’m up for this
Buzzing for this mate!
*I would kill my grandmother over this*
As an Australian, the highest level of excitement we feel is usually expressed as "froth it mate"
That is correct
You forgot one: get it outta here!
The Official Strayn levels of interest are as follows:
Fuck nah
Yeah nah
Nah
Yeah
Nah yeah
Fuck yeah
emojis: dumpster, eye roll, shrug, big eyes, a bee, and an old lady with a knife in her chest. why dont we have that emoji? seems unfair to australians, right?
If you like Snyder’s DC world than you’ll probably love it, if you don’t congrats you’ll have Zack Snyder being Snyder for 4 hours or more
That "Snyder being Snyder for 4 hours or more" argument is stupid. You don't need to be a snyder fan to love his movies. Obviously the director will do whay he knows best. The fact is that people blind hate his movies before even start watching them like you're doing right now, so that's why you don't like them. You don't see them with an open mind, probably you want them to be like Christopher Reeves or Michael Keaton movies or you just don't pay attention to the actual plot.
@@DerezzedMan or they're just poorly written. I like Snyders style. I like his tone and visuals but the story just sucks. For BvS atleast.
@@DerezzedMan I feel thats a little unfair. He didn't express his opinion, just thoughts on who would like it. I agree with you, but I think he's got a point. I don't expect people who didn't like MoS or BvS to suddenly be impressed with Snyder League. Just as I don't expect people who loved MoS or BvS to hate the Snyder Cut. I would love to be surprised tho, not blind hate, more so an expectation at this point.
@@VincentStevenStudio what part of the plot sucks according to you?
@@MiggyMouse650 I'm sure you already know the plot points in BvS that pissed people off. For me the biggest problem with that movie was actually the dialog. There's no way Eisenberg could have made Lex Luthor work with consistently terrible dialog.
if "you should probably move" isn't in the movie then 0/10 automatically
Faaaaaaaacts.
Sooooo........
Pros: Zack Snyder gets to finish what he started after being heartlessly fired following a family tragedy, Joss Whedon’s version (who is a human turd) will likely be forgotten, the fans get what they want, etc.
Cons: It’s a DC movie directed by Zack Snyder.
Sounds exactly like my own thoughts on this Snyder Cut.
Took the words right out my brain mate.
Depends on whether Cyborg says his iconic line; "You should probably move'"
Any movie with this line in it is automatically better
Idk but I'm gonna watch it.
Me too I just like watching super heroes movies !
i just pray to god that's it decent. If all of this was for a terrible movies, then i quit life.
wait.. there are 2 of you? I always thought it was just 1 guy talking to himself.
That's a very popular theory.
Same, just thought he was a 1 man band didn’t know it was a duet
My belief is, if you like these movies that's fine, but if you really do like DC you should want them to be better.
100% agree. No problem with people enjoying the films. But as a long time DC fan, I've read so many better stories. The fans deserve better, even the ones who don't realize it.
If you watch the animated Death of Superman and Dark Knight Returns you see exactly how it should be done. But Snyder waters down both of those classic stories and crams them into the final act of BvS. I mean the stories are already there! Just adapt them. Why the contrived BS? All of BvS is dependent on the audience beliving the brilliant Batman is dumb enough to want to kill Superman for the events of MoS. I don't buy it
I also 100% agree. BvS, to me, was an insult and a slap in the face to real DC fans which is why it’s my least favorite of the DCEU movies. It took what made Superman, Batman, and Lex Luthor THEM and just threw it out the window, plus they crammed way too much into one movie. As memorable as some scenes were (warehouse scene, actual fight between Superman and Batman), the movie overall just pissed me off to no end. Especially because I was anticipating and looking forward to it as much as I was. I remember getting goosebumps watching that first trailer for 2015 Comic Con and being unbelievably hyped for the movie, just to then get what we got.
Yeah because superman 4 and superman returns was soooooo awesome right? Oh forgot about Batman and Robin? Those are "true" to the comics and so colorful and funny, we deserve a Batman and Robin and batwoman movie with bat visa and bat shark spray. Or how about just STFU
K G those weren’t true to the comics tho. None of the storylines were from the comics.
@@kg957 you’re basically saying well at least it’s not a piece of shit so we should just learn to eat the garbage
Here after the Feb 14th trailer... I think that this movie will be more than just good.
It will be above-good. Advanced-good. Good+
It was
I just can't wait for Darkseid to yell "Thomas!" and stop the whole fight because Darkseid and Batman's fathers have the same name.
"Why did you say that name!"
"Why did you say that name?"
"Coz it worked the last time? Lmfao, don't know. Just trying to work out anything here mate!"
Lol 😂
Or they can say "Why is Gamora" and shitty Marvel fanboys will have orgasms coz they think it's genius.
@@shabbirkhan5049 see, the difference is: "why did you say that name" was supposed to be serious, and became a joke, but "why is gamora" was a joke that for some reason you and you alone are taking seriously. Marvel movies have their own issues, but pointing them out won't solve any of DCs issues.
The most important question:
Will Gal Gadot & friends` excellent rendition of "Imagine" play over the ending credits ?
I really don't need any more reasons to punch my ticket
no one who likes these depressing morose and miserable zach snyder movies also likes 'Imagine'
Alex Zawacki it’s actually kinda a depressing song
Lmfao
It's kind of funny how they are releasing this on Hbo Max, even though DC Universe is still around, I think
It is.
Huddo Life DC Universe shows will be on HBO Max too, from what I understand DC Universe is just a cheaper version of HBO Max only including DC stuff and not including the Snyder Cut.
It will probably be absorbed into hbo max over the next couple of years
The InvictusSamaritan that’s not true at all... it’s not just a HBO max but JUST DC...
It is around but it’s only available in the US so it makes more sense to release it on a larger and more popular platform
Man, I hate stuff like this, because the speculation is almost always more interesting than the final product could ever be... I just can't see this being anything more than a middling movie like the rest of Snyder's DC entries are. He makes great visuals (probably one of the best in the business, at least when it comes to action movies), but as a story teller he leaves *_a lot_* to be desired.
here for the visuals
Does Snyder make great visuals when his movies are so dark you can’t see shit? Lol
@@reddragon0624 You need to get your eyes checked.
@@deathfliez627 no it's you
Well atleast it'll be better than what we got with Joss Wheldon HAHAAH
I just wanna see snyder's version of darkseid.
And that full history lesson with UXAS(Darkseid) instead of Steppenwolf.
It will be shite. It's Zack Snyder, you know, low-grade 10-a-penny music director. And even his music videos are shite.
@@cathalsurfs Well, it was better than the Star Wars 7-9.
@@cathalsurfs well I've seen it now and can say it starts off slow but it is so good
All In 2: Electric Boogaloo
Melbourne is ALL IN
BattleUp Saber
They need a sign that says Melbourne is STILL All In!
: did you have fun with it edition
Lmfao 😂😂😂
As long as they keep Aquamans signature line
"MY Man!"
No thanks.
Lmao
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Pretty sure Patreon gets to see the video early
Mason has a onlyfans account.....its naughty
@andyr roopram time travel AND the global conspiracy that Aussies live 8 hours in the future and laugh at the rest of us M8's because they know what's gonna happen before we do!
I think the best DC movies on average are the Animated ones. They have great writing compared to some of the DC live action films.
Oh hands down! You can tell those animated stories are handled with care.
Batman vs Superman in Dark Knight Returns > fight in BvS
Doomsday vs Everybody > fight in BvS
And it's not close. The animated movies did a much better job. Give me a new Flash and a Flashpoint film on the big screen. f
Daniel Sitar eh that really hasn’t been the case as of late. A lot of the newer animated movies were mediocre as fuck
And dc live action films have great writing compared to some of the animated ones. Double edged sword, dummy.
@@faz6877 warehouse fight?
Animated movies overseen and greenlit by same execs who decided to redo justice league. Dc knows their fans
The expectations are HUGE and that is 8 out of 10 times a bad thing and it ends up disappointing.
yeah, actually no
It can't be worse than the theatrical cut. At least this will have a consistent tone and unified vision rather than the frankenstien we got.
Only the Snyder cultists have any expectations.
The rest of us know what Hack Snyder is capable of.
@@JackDManheim yeah but some fanbois were telling that this will be movie of century of movie lol
JackDManheim You trash
If Duke Nukem Forever told us anything
no
I'm sure we'll all have fun with it.
really? have you seen a snyder movie?
@@Bloodynine606 The thing with Snyder movies is that they are cut. BvS theatrical? Garbage, Ultimate edition? WAY WAY BETTER. Watchmen theatrical? Sh1t! Ultimate? Amazing.
@@SSJavenger I watched both the TC and the UE of BvS and honestly there isn't much difference
@@Bloodynine606 really? Did you not listen to the Weekly Planet episode on Justice League?
(Its a reference)
Knock yourself out but I'm sure I'll have fun doing anything else.
I think some people have waited so long for this, and have created such a hate and disappointment around the original Justice League, that people will just like the Synder Cut no matter what.
That's a given. Some people call BvS UE a masterpiece just to spite people who says it sucks
"Have created so much hate"?
People trashed MoS and BvS for a year or two straight like it was their religious calling in life... but the films didn't flop, they were merely not financial winners.
Enter JL... an actual flop. It has the worst replay value of nearly the entire DCEU except debatably Suicide Squad and BoP. It lost massive amounts of money.
No one has to MAKE UP hatred for JL. The negative hype, the sales, lots of critics AND "the fans" agree it was a hot mess on nearly every level except charm.
@@ravissary79, JUSTICE LEAGUE (2017) was just okay the first time I saw it, but it has grown on me. So has MAN OF STEEL in fact. I agree it is a mess, but I also think it was going to be a mess regardless. BVS, JL, SS and BOP all unsurprisingly have the same problem. They're rushed, bloated messes.
@@ravissary79, when I said "created", I didn't mean it was a false creation. I just meant that there was hatred around it, just like fans have created a large appreciation for the MCU or the Harry Potter movies.
@@ToylandChairman666, I agree with Man of Steel, it really is just okay, but Justice League is definitely just not good, in my opinion.
I come into all these vids knowing its excerpts from the podcast, but i still come just to thumbs up. Love you guys, keep it up!
So, I don't really think the Snyder Cut is going to be good, but I think I might pay for it somehow just to support this sort of idea going forward. Not that they should cut or re-cut movies to pander to the audience, but that maybe if there were different ideas or versions that couldn't be explored all at once, maybe release it later as a different cut instead of burying it in a vault.
I think the Snyder Cut will be better than the theatrical, but not so good as to be game changing and not getting universal acclaim. Regardless of how good it is, the die hard Snyder fans will only ever praise it and probably call it the best comic film made.
I already listened to this bit on the podcast. But I'm still watching this video because I'm ALL IN. The most important thing is I had fun with it.
Wasn’t the $20-30m budget blown outta the water by a WB exec 2 days ago? “I wish it was only $20-30m”
Yeah, it was. I believe their actually higher costs.
This was recorded a few days back.
At this stage they don't really know how much it will cost. It will depend on how the CGI works out.
Estimated to be around 70 mil
no you guys are expecting too much from a guy who mostly makes comic book movies that are mediocre and fundamentally misunderstands the characrers. For example, Superman trashing that guys truck at the diner in MoS.
How is that misunderstanding the character? He's done that in the comics too. He's done worse in the comics (and I'm not talking about Injustice. I mean the proper main continuity comics).
People who say Snyder misunderstands the characters haven't actually read the comics. They only parrot what they hear people whine on UA-cam or post on Reddit.
They actually made the you should probably move cut
You should include Suicide Squad in Caravan of Garbage.
It'll truly be a Caravan of Garbage haha
Probably better to save it for the week the Suicide Squad comes out so it gets more clicks
@@thequestion4818 Ohhh yeah good point.
I think that Justice League Dark Apokolips War had a big influence in the Snyder Cut getting released. The fact that it got really positive reviews and people enjoyed it, showed WB that people want to see that darker DC universe.
In my opinion WB made a mistake. They thought that after BvS, fans didn't enjoy the movie because it was dark and there weren't any jokes, like in a Marvel movie. So, they hired Whedon and changed Justice League to be more lighthearted. However, I think people didn't enjoy BvS because the characters were poorly represented and it was clear that it's gonna make a bad shared universe.
But also keep in mind these characters were in their darkest moments and later on.. they overcame it. WB made a huge mistake.. we could've been on track for JL Part 3.
@@HragFarraGaming the problem was that you can't have Superman sad, Batman sad, Wonder Woman sad all at the same time, there needs to be a balance. Superman shouldn't need to be depressed and die to be the Superman we know and love. His upbringing is the reason why he's hopeful, just like WW leaving mankind for so long and returning for what? One battle? Or the most obvious one Batman killing
When Zack wastes my time promoting NEW villains in his cut, you really know it'll be more of the same. Pretentious eye candy for dumbasses that would eat literal garbage as long as it had a DC logo and had a reference from a comic book story scratched into it with a stick
Snyder fans: oh my god they referenced The Dark Knight returns, this movie is so deep and complex
Who crapped in your margarita? It’s a comic book movie. Let the man who lost a child finish his movie.
@@iamjordanbradshaw Zack Snyder. Zack Snyder crapped in my margarita. Is it okay that I'm a little bit pissed about it now or do I have to ask permission from the Commission of Parents that Lost their Children? How lengthy should my application be? 5000 words? I'm afraid I may not be able to make it much longer than one of those "Why Man of Steel is A Hidden Gem That Transcends its Art Form Objective Analysis AKA It's Made For the Fans" videos, I don't think that's humanly possible to be that incoherent and say this much nothing in such a lengthy period of time.
And don't even try to act like it's anything else but a corporate investment into the fuckwads that siege the corporate emails and Twitter accounts of WB and DC personnel asking them "Snooder Coot Wen Doe!?!". This was never about letting a grieving man finish his project, not when well over 30 million of dollars and extensive reshoots are happening. This was always just a corporate attempt to milk a bunch of imbeciles after they've noticed that the teet is swollen enough to be milked already.
If someone throws turds at people who didn't like his movie calling them "fake Superman fans", I don't care what his excuse is, I'm not just going to wrap a blanket over my eyes and nod with my ears closed, singing "La la la la la, this is great!". Yeah, a tragedy happened to the guy, tough shit, shit happens, doesn't make his recent movies or his behavior any better though.
How many of my children must commit suicide before that amateur video I shot with my Motorola snap phone back in 2007 deserves an Oscar? Unless you give me a concrete answer, I don't think we can have a productive conversation here, Mr.
Ok you’re being kinda a dick there dude, sure Snyder isn’t a perfect Director and WB isn’t a perfect studio but let’s not bring his daughter into this, Snyder is still a human being who lost a child he raised since she was a baby, I feel sorry for him despite all the mockery I give him for his films and his stupid “you’re living in a dream world” argument
@@mrcritical6751 I wasn't the one who dragged his deceased child into the room and flashed it like a keycard... -_-
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OK. This continuity of movies is critically flawed from the beginning. Releasing another cut of the original film is a farce. It's the cinematic equivalent of continuing to stack onto a wobbling Jenga tower.
I'm someone who hates the DCEU and mostly everything Zack was involved in with it. I hate his interpretation of Batman, Supes and the universe. I wish they'd move on from it.
All that said, I'm actually glad they're letting him finish his version of the film. Studio interferance and family tragedy ruined what could have been and it's only fair he gets to complete it. So it's good for him and the people who enjoy it. We've got a new batman on the way so those who aren't interested in this can look forward too that. And there's also the DCAU which is infinitely better.
I personally see something beautiful in a bunch of fans banning together to get the movie they wanted and succeeding.
Personally, I'm not that's passionate about Justice League (I'm more of a Doctor Who guy), and I had fun with the movie when it came-out. But I loved seeing everyone trying to work together to see the version they wanted.
When people ban together, they truly can do Anything. :)
I share your sentiments 100%
So you hate the guy that made the better movie and not joss whedon
TheDuck ThatQuacks ahaha bvs was superior
@@Dylan_-ye6od Superior to a bad movie, but subpar compared to the rest of cinema.
Would probably be cool as a 6 part series in 40 minute segments
I don't care if it's good, I'm only here for the H8 Mail comments James is going to get!
It probably won’t be, but Snyder fanboys will convince themselves into thinking it’s great.
Time Will tell
You must be pretty happy with yourself for that one...
Shut it you buzz killer, it'll be fine
I’ve been saying that the whole time. The movie, and this “cinematic universe” were doomed from the start. DC has some great characters, but it seems likes there’s more floppy DC films that good ones.
Okay, see, now you're going into an area you probably shouldn't go. People who like these films didn't convince themselves it was good. They genuinely like it. People have different tastes, and like different things. So if people do like it, they won't have to convince themselves. Now, considering there aren't reshoots, it probably won't be, and I mean PROBABLY, a while lot better than the theatrical release. But there's also a lot of removed and unfinished scenes, so you never know. But uh, don't assume people are forcing themselves to think a way because they're a Snyder fan. If they're a real fan, they wouldn't do that, and would come out when they don't like something of his. Of course, it doesn't mean that they didn't like the previous Snyder movies or did come out about those, and I'm definitely not saying that DC fans are the ones who like the movies and are, as you say, convincing themselves into thinking it's good. I'm saying people like it, and people don't like it. I for one, do like them. But not just the Snyder ones, all of them. Yeah, Suicide Squad, BvS, and Justice League could have been loads better, but it wasn't. So from what we got, I think it's great.
Post Script: Despite what you may think, I am not a Snyder fanboy. I am a fan of his stuff so far. I have only seen his DC movies, and don't really plan to see his other stuff. And while I am DC fan, I'm not a fanboy of that either. I see problems with movies and shows, and I also have different opinions about certain things other people don't like. I also like Marvel, and have watched all practically all of Marvel's movies and shows. Some of the older ones, maybe not, some of the animated ones, maybe not, but I have seen all of the MCU, and I have unfortunately seen Inhumans. I have also seen the bad CG in the Arrowverse shows, and I have been annoyed by the drama and romance aspects of those shows, but at the same time, it's not enough for me to stop watching the shows. But I'm going off track here. Just know that I'm not tricking myself into thinking anything is good. And I HOPE nobody else is either.
Wait, there's a Jonah hex movie with josh brolin and Michael fassbender??!?
BVS and Zack’s vision was not my cup of tea, WW Aquaman and Shazam were all finally taking steps in the right direction, and Harley Quinn proves that holding onto that older version of the DCEU is the wrong choice to make, and also just because you put more and more things into the moving, that doesn’t mean it will be good, Endgame and all it’s moving parts works because the foundation of the MCU is strong and the characters are developed, the DCEU is not strong enough to keep throwing more and more things in, yes i want to see Martain Manhunter in a movie, but if it isnt true to the character what’s the point?
BVS was a good movie for it s idea,if u didnt get it,go watch anime...there exist multiverse
@@petrurzm3596 was that English?
Bullshit, Snyder's vision is the best we've got so far when it comes to DC movies, Shazam is hot GARBAGE!
Oliver Reyes curious,
What do you think of ‘Under The Red Hood’?
@@JackDManheim I think is one of the best DC animated films ever made, it's dark enough for Batman and actually staying close to the source material. Idk where you wanna go from there, I was strictly speaking about the live action adaptations when I said Snyder's vision was the best so far, and just in case you are going to call me out on Batman's morals and code, you gotta know where the "Batfleck" is coming from, Dark Night Returns, a masterpiece, a dystopic, grumpy, darker, older Bruce Wayne just sick of it all, sick of the way it has been for the last decades, it seems like just catching the bad guys ain't good enough no more.
Well, this is the year of hindsight. And you're totally right about this being a totally different movie than his original. This will basically be if George Lucas couldn't finish Star Wars then years later brought out the Special Editions.
Well some changes in the Special edition are kinda the josstice league.
@@kubabrezina8038 not really. It's the original creator making the changes.
@@jinxie712 i was talking about the quality
Rescoring the music will improve the film significantly.
Fingers crossed we get an iconic theme like The Avengers got
Mr. Infinity We already have iconic themes for the trinity, now all Junkie XL has to do is make three more for Aquaman, Flash & Cyborg.
Fingers cross they use either the Justice League or Justice League Unlimited theme music.
Rewriting, redirecting and reshooting the film will improve it for sure
@@tsukopara2054 man that's my dream, to have an orchestral cover of the classic theme as the theme for all of them together would be incredible!
@@lonewandererfo3 my point is the score's impact and importance is kinda overlooked
To have it end for the knightmare sequence would be amazing!
I would've loved to see Justice League 2 with Deathstroke as the main villain.
I’m just curious about how different this will be. One thing I’m excited about with these streaming services is that directors might have the possibility to release their own “directors cut” alongside the traditional streaming release of whatever they make.
I'm just glad that I won't have to see "Release the Snyder cut" spam on every single WB announcement anymore... I hope.
I wish I could be that positive. I'm personally preparing myself for the onslaught of fanboys commenting on anything marvel related at how much better the Snyder cut 2.0 is better than anything kiddy soyboy that Disney puts out because WB decided to give this movie a second chance.
The only positive will be h8te mail but the hate had an 8 in it that comes from all this.
@@EasyCure0 they're gonna keep doing it no matter what. They even go after other DC movies and are already bashing the upcoming Batman movie.
Calling it now when Doctor Strange: In The Multiverse Of Madness starts releasing trailers you’ll see all the Snyder fanboys arguing that “this movie is so childish, The Snyder Cut is way more adult and mature”
#releasethesnydercut
@Ablin Reko we should honestly get that trending
#deletethesnydercut
I want a cut where superman is resurrected and the first thing he says to batman is :
Buy me a pint
Only to be attacked by Sean Bean as Corn of Coblin.
Regardless of what you think of the director, I think this is overall a positive thing. Being able to see the director's "true" vision without studio interference is really cool.
The studio will still interfere though, you’re dreaming if you think they won’t. Plus this will not be the same vision as he had four years ago.
Yeah, but it won't be any good.
Spending tens of millions and not expecting even slight studio interference? Especially WB? Heh.
@@Wouter2312 It will be, you just haven't followed the news about it.
@@excalibur183 Did you already see the movie to start hating on it to begin with?
I just want to praise the editing on this (and frankly, on every one of your videos). Brilliant work.
No, but that's because the Synder Verse is not a good version of anything. He has such a cynical and destopic view on the world of comicbooks that everything to him begins, ends, and should be some variant of Watchmen. Or 300. This release of JL will only be good in the idea that it's the continuation of what MoS and BvS limpdicked out, so this will only conclude the trilogy of ZS's self-congratulatory hate wanking.
You forgot the 3rd ever comic book Zack Snyder has read, The Dark Knight Returns.
I'm pretty sure I heard this entire thing cuz I already listened to the podcast, I don't know how much of it but I definitely heard a lot of it. But given the lack of content from most creators right now I'm just going to watch this anyway
Will Melbourne be all in again?
I don't think it'll be that good but I think it'll be interesting to see how different it is to the theatrical cut.
If there's one thing I've learnt about Zack Snyder, his movies are MUCH better when you just let him get on with it and don't try to turn his work into a Marvel movie
Sucker Punch would like a word
@@ascendance8121 we do not talk about Sucker Punch in these parts, partner....
Someone hasn’t seen sucker punch
@@alexmansfield3268 suckerpunch at least has a style
They're much better, but still not very good
10 years later and we're back to arguing over who's on Robert Pattinson's team
22:24 you went to the movies with Broden from Aunty Donna? havent you done well.
The whole point of this was to release the cut that Snyder inteded to be made. And I can say for certain that Snyder didn't intend for this to be split into episodes or to be made 4 hours. Plus with it coming out now that they plan to use none of Whedon's footage and up to 90% of Snyder's VFX not even being there, it doesn't even seem like this is a super secret cut that's been hidden away. Just an idea that is 90% greenscreen and with a very loose order of events
Its not 90% incomplete CGI.....
The episodic idea was Snyder's.
@@DivvayKhatri
You know what, you're right. It's 100% incomplete CGI. The Hollywood Reporter:"Forget that the version that fans wanted technically didn’t exist. What did exist was a semi-unfinished work, with no visual effects, no postproduction. One person who had seen that version described it like a car with no panels, just a drivetrain and some seats. And it sat on a hard drive in the Snyders' house. "When we left the movie, I just took the drive of the cut on it," says Snyder. "I honestly never thought it would be anything."
@@Ben10man2 Not his intended vision to begin with though. What we're getting now is his vision with 3 years of hindsight and response from critics and fans,
@@Lanosrep that's just what I was going to say. This isn't his vision from before BvS, this isn't his vision from the five part arc, this is his vision of a new movie.
Id love to see the guerrmo del toro version of the hobbit, but i dnot think they have anything to make that
I'm Team Michael Keaton
"Now you wanna get nuts! C'mon! Lets get nuts!"
Squirrel Girl in Justice League confirmed.
I’ll just be happy to see the scene where Flash turns around so fast he shreds his shoes and the tiles he’s standing on. Always thought that would be a dope visual.
Its gonna be funny when this version is also bad and they just cement batman dark knight trilogy as a fluke
It's also gonna be funny if it's not shut all you haters
If it’s Just okay, or in fact Bad, then nothing happens, nothing changes
Fans will move on and try again until it’s done right
But.......But if nots just good, IF it’s Amazing
That’s when things get interesting
I dont think TDK trilogy was a fluke. People who have a deep understanding of these characters and a true love for the franchise could make something just as great.
@@raymondmadrid calm down man
Not a fluke, but the trilogy definitely peaked with THE DARK KNIGHT.
It gonna be slow mo perfection with heavy sprinkles of depression.....just how i like my snyder films
Mos has 0 slow mo
watchmen and 300 have almost 0 depression
Just like how you cry about Snyder films
@@DivvayKhatri i own every snyder film including the owls of gouhl on blu ray or 4k.....yep i hate him soooo much........i lied i cant find dawn of the dead on blue ray
@@DivvayKhatri Watchmen and 300 have almost 0 depression???? Uhh....did we see the same movies. Both absolutely had their moments. Lol
@@Wol1427 i didnt even answer that bit cause im sure he didnt see those films.
Watchmen has a scene of a man getting blown up as another watches in horror, it is full of depression
The original justic league was so horrible I havent watched the end yet
Brix Cer You haven’t missed anything believe me
good guys win
BVS is so bad i have watched the extended cut.
"There's very few movies th-"
"There's a lot of movies, what are you talking about!"
Never change lads
I mean.. ZS did direct Watchmen, a 3 hour movie. Glad it’ll be at least 4 hours to do the JL Justice. No pun intended.
I mean you try cramming the first avengers movie along with like half the set up movies into 2 hours while ensuring its compelling.
Ultimately I think its just the failure of DC for deciding to rush to catch up with Marvel rather than organically setting up their movie. Imagine if we got a Batfleck movie, and Wonder Woman before BVS. It would probably make things much easier for it.
And imagine if we got a Flash movie before Justice League, that way most of the cast is built up for their respective team ups.
But nah DC wanted to catch up with Marvel. Corporate greed sucks.
@@trevordavis6830 lots of directors have hours of footage and then have to cut it. snyder has the pleasure of streaming it so why not make it 4 hours and really make us care about the characters in the story
@@trevordavis6830 snyders justice league was designed to be long. all he did was add 30-60 mins extra, just because he had worthy footage
@@trevordavis6830 we'll see, maybe it'll set the standard for 4 hr superhero movies and create a demand for more 4 hour flicks
@@yoyo21926 they cut it to make good movies of the 4 hours. I can names dozens of movies better than the sneeder cut that "had to cut the hours of footage"
Spoilers... It wont be!
Who’s here after watching the Snyder cut?
I’m from 2086 when the release the weadon cut is out 😨
Looking forward to the Snydercut commentary boyz!
bigevilworldwide1 you’re better off just ignoring the haters
Hi @Mr Sunda Movies, I think you hit the nail on the head. There is one additional point though.
If I am not mistaken, I read some news that mentioned another the reason the Snyder Cut will be released is because there was a change in management. The previous management was responsible for the Whedon Cut and refused to acknowledge the Snyder Cut. Now a new guy was taking over and was more open to the Snyder Cut and also part of his objectives was to push HBO Max up to rival Netflix.
So, like you said, it really is a perfect storm of events that lead to the Snyder Cut being made.
19:20 - I don't know about that.. Star Wars fan who were "shipping kylo and Rey" threatened/harassed Adam Driver's partner because of it. when you blur the lines of reality and film, and attack real innocent people, that's pretty damn toxic.
Yeah and a little insane