Why Sauropod's Nostrils Aren't So Obvious
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2022
- Brachiosaurus, Diplodocus, Argentinosaurus and many other sauropods are often depicted with nostrils high on their foreheads. It makes sense to assume this nostril position when looking at sauropod skulls, since their nasal openings are located on top of their skulls.
But, having nostrils on the forehead offers no anatomical purpose to sauropods. A closer analysis into dinosaur skulls has figured out that despite the position of their nasal openings, sauropods, like every other dinosaur, had nostrils on their snouts.
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[1] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
[2] web.archive.org/web/201309060...
[3] markwitton-com.blogspot.com/20...
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1. (Outdated restoration of Dipolodocus at SUMPHG) Motekov, CC BY-SA 4.0 creativecommons.org/licenses/..., via Wikimedia Commons
2. (Diplodocus cknight) Charles R. Knight, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons
3. (Strange Creatures of the Past - The Amphibious Dinosaur) Charles R. Knight, Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons
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Aren't these supposed to be Brachiosaurus? And the art was made by Zdenek Burian btw.
They are apparently Brachiosaurus by Zdenek Burian, thanks for the correction! I didn't find more information about the painting other than the ones provided in the Wikimedia page (where I sourced the image).
I have seen several reconstructions of sauropods online having nostrils on their foreheads because of their openings. But I like that they have nostrils on their faces along with air sacs to communicate.
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i'd like to think that all that space would allow for a bigger nasal passage, in turn allowing for more efficient and easier breathing, definitely a necessity for something so large
Yeah, and if the fleshy nostril were located caudally, then the nasal passage would house a lot of narial apparatuses, which I'd argue would also improve their sense of smell.
I remember in the early 2,000s watching the original version of King Kong and seeing the sauropods being depicted as aquatic dinosaurs. They were constructed, scientifically speaking, so badly that I remember thinking to myself "Oh look! They added the lock ness monster to King Kong!" This nostril rediscovery really helps explain why the film makers had initially put the sauropods underwater. Thanks for another great video!
Yeah, dinosaur depictions in movies actually plays a very important rule in shaping the general public's view about them. The aquatic sauropods never actually held on after the mid 20th century within the paleo community, but modern cinema still sometimes get that wrong.
I like to imagine Sauropods like brachiosaurus having inflatable air sacs above their nose, which is why the nasal opening is larger.
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You should do a video on what is the biggest sauropod dinosaur.
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Do you have any videos on Brachiosaurus v. Giraffatitan by any chance?
4:06 the Brachiosaurus and Giraffatitan skulls are swapped.
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I wasn't pissed, more annoyed like, "this has to be addressed because they keep getting it wrong in pop culture" 😂
I think the massive holes in the head were possibly used as air sacs that could inflate.
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Makes me think of the soft tissue on the heads of beluga whales.
Regardless, I certainly don't think we should morphologically project a Sauropod's nostril position to that of most animals today; the later members were unique and to themselves alone.
Comparing extant animals to extinct ones is half of how we do paleontology actually, the other half is analyzing discovered remains.
The forehead nostril position is the remnants of incorrect old dinosaur reconstructions
@@FactorTrace Certainly not. There are some terrestrial animals with nostril openings positioned closer to the eyes. Let's not assume all Sauropods weren't the same either. Based on noses work, it's seems plausible enough the nostrils were positioned at the front of their cavity as suggested with reconstructions of Camarasaurus.
Je ne suis pas très sur que les dinosaures Sauropode pouvaient respirer les feuilles des arbres comme les mammifères herbivores je crois qu’on devrait vérifier avec les tortue
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2:06 the difference is that giraffes and paraceratherium have well developed lips that can prevent debris from entering, also brachiosaurus most likely fed on conifers with small needle shaped leaves, so they could be a hazard, while modern day giraffes feed on broadleaf trees, also a sauropod's way of feeding is shearing leaves off with its teeth which produces way more debris than a giraffe licking the leaves off a branch
just my point of view by the way
That's a good argument bestuan. However, I still don't think it justifies the nostril placement on the forehead enough. I think sauropods also had lips that would have contained the debris inside the mouth as they were eating.
Sauropods. Didn't exist as far as I'm concerned.
Btw. I'm not saying all dinosaurs just saurpods
An elephant eats 150 kg per day and spends 18 hours eating per day
An Argentinosaurus needs 850 kg per day
So please explain how many hours it would need to be eating per day? Because upscaling it would seem like 100 hours eating per 24 hours period
So what am I missing?
Did vegetation back then contain 10 times as much nutrition?
Please explain. Because based on what I know about elephants. Saurpods seem impossible. Biologically.
I have not found an explanation so far🤷♂️🤷♂️😊
Sauropods ate way way faster than any elephant. Elephants have to chew before digesting.
Sauropods just rake all the leaves off of trees and swallow without chewing. They skip chewing and spend their time filling their stomach, while stones help their huge digestive tract.
Basically elephants chew and then swallow and digest, but sauropods swallow and digest at the same time
@@MastaBaitaAmbatukam saurpods have a harder time digesting. Chewing and saliva break down food before entering the stomach . This means it would take way way longer than an elephant for the gut to break down food. Your defence is flawed and speculation
@@davepegington9066 Do you know that there are many herbivores that don't chew? There isn't anything their digestion lacks. The food gets plenty of saliva the way down its throat and is ground up by rocks and acid in the stomach. And big sauropods have a way bigger digestive tract than elephants that can absorb more nutrients.
So the sauropod doesn't lose anything from not chewing, it just chews with its stomach with the help of rocks. And it still swallows more food at the same time
@@MastaBaitaAmbatukam i know c there are many dinosaurs that c are SPECULATED not to chew. But they v don't need the gigantic of food a saurpod does either.
I don't buy that swallowing stones helps either. That does with small animals like birds. But wouldn't with an animal with the stomach the size of a car .
Not chewing doesn't take anything away? Don't talk such rot. The first animals evolved to bite and then chew before they even left the sea.
For no other reason than it was an advantage.
For example saurpods. SPECULATED not to raise their young. But. eggs then abandon them, as one of the consequences for constantly needing to be on the move and feed.
The mortality rate of baby saurpods was absurdly high. Even worse than sea turtles. (According to David Attenborough)
So YES not chewing IS NEGATIVE
@@davepegington9066 Search up gastrolith. Then you'll understand
Also, you are wrong. Tetrapods are ancestrally unable to chew. The only tetrapod group that generally can chew are mammals. Other tetrapods lack horizontal jaw mobility. The only dinosaurs, extinct or living able to chew were hadrosaurs, and even they couldn't chew side to side. Only grinding tooth batteries together vertically.
Also, if you actually believe "sauropods" are real, then how is that possible? In science, researchers are awarded for criticizing and debunking other people's work. No ideas are beyond scrutiny. I know sauropods were real, because if they weren't real, then some scientists would've made work explaining how they aren't real to respond to other scientists.
Also, you realize that not all sauropods are giant, right? Some dwarf sauropods were buffalo sized as adults. Are they real? What about the early, bipedal sauropods that were much smaller? Like plateosaurus. They are in the sauropod clade as well. Your view doesn't make sense
Regardless, though nostrils are not sauropods, are still awesome animals
What do we learn from that? (Well most people do not learn anything from anything...)
Science means questioning and not obeying to experts. They have no clue most of the time and it takes decades of stressful criticism for better ideas to push through.
Most of the time it's one or few people who are right. But people will follow the crowd anyways, so...