I would have bought this instead of the 16-35 GM if it were available. 16-25 G + 24-105 G + 100-400 GM would be a great trio. I am currently using the 20-70 G + 70-200 Macro G II + 1.4 TC, so it does not really fit well in my arsenal right now. If I need wider, I add the 14 GM, or if I need longer I swap out the 70-200 for a 100-400 GM.
I HATE my 16-35mm f2.8 gm 1. I've always thought it was quite soft and focus never seems to hit very well. Would be very tempted to swap it out for this
I was planning on getting the Sigma mainly for real estate photography and some video. But with the smaller size of the Sony I’m now leaning toward that.
I have the Sigma 14-24 and I'll probably sell it for this lens. It's an great lens but I mainly shoot for travel. The Sigma 14-24 is literally double the weight of this lens. I'll sacrifice the 2mm on the wide end for a much smaller lens.
Hugh Brownstone, @3BMEP, just released his review of this lens, and he thinks the correction profile for the lens is not ready for prime time. He shoots a lot of urban landscape, and the distortion was noticeable and un-correctible, manually. If you're looking for a walk-around lens that's good for shooting architecture, you might want to keep looking.
I think Tamron 20-40mm 2.8 may be a better buy. With Tamron 35-150mm combo, one is pretty much all set. 20mm is wide enough for most situation and Tamron lens is small and light too.
the Sony w 20-70mm f4 is the ideal walking around lens, IMO. 20mm is wide enough for most things and you get a reach out to 70mm. The slower speed is fine for most occasions.
I’ve bought the tamron 20-40 f2.8 and have the Samyang 35-150 f2-2.8 for the longer end . Cheaper than tamron version . When I shot landscapes with my old Olympus I used 7.5mm Laowa and 7-14mm and always found my shots at 9 and 10mm so when I went Sony a7 full frame I got the 20mm prime tamron . Never feel I want wider . Hence why I went 20-40mm and as a carry around on holiday I did want longer zoom with me too. Maybe the Sony 20-70 would be better choice but it’s much more expensive ! .
10:03 Honestly I'm conflicted on getting this or not. Looks good on paper but..... I started using Sony in Q4'18 with a Zeiss 16-35 f4 (at wider end). Since then I added most of GM primes (all kept) and several zooms, many tried and sold. Restricting this just to w/a, I tried both a Tamron 17-28 and a GM 16-35. Tamron beat all at some points, but sold all my wide zooms bar the pretty good GM. Didn't always take that GM 16-35 as heavy, not so good at 35mm and overlapped my GM mkii 24-70, which often got paired with a 20mm or 14mm prime. So I then sold my 16-35 GM as I suspected a mkii replacement was in the pipeline. I bought the excellent PZ 16-35 f4 to 'tide me over' and it made for a lighter wide zoom experience. Plus I figured for landscape, architecture etc I usually stopped down from f2.8 so maybe couldn't justify the mkii GM. For astro I'd use a prime 24, 20 or 14 GM/G anyway rather than a f2.8 zoom I might yet buy a new mkii GM 16-35 to go with my mkii GM 24-70 and 70-200. But the 'trinity' set is a hefty travel package, with 2 bodies and a couple of fast primes so it's a rare trip when all 3 GM trinity zooms would go out. Hence my conflicted view about replacing my now sold GM mk1. When travelling I usually opted for a 70-200 plus either a 16-35 or a 24-70 and covered the missing range with one or two primes. If I got a mkii 16-35 then I might just pack a 50mm GM f1.4 or the still excellent lighter Zeiss 55mm f1.8. Light primes are a joy to use whilst the zooms are big but convenient and versatile. I currently own 15 Sony lenses and can't ever carry all on any one trip. So I'm still trying to decide if a 16-25 G would be wasted on me 🤔.
Tony, great review and has me thinking. I want to have a zoom I have the 50mm F1.4 GM already and want something as a walk around for my A7Siii and Sony A74. I just do this as a hobby, so another GM is not what I can afford. I am debating between the 24-50mm F2.8 G and this new 16-25mm F2.8 G. I just got the 20mm F1.8 G (though I have about a week to change my mind and send it back). I think I want one prime and one zoom as a lightweight travel kit for both video and photo. I have always loved the 50 over the 35, so that is why I wanted one GM lens in a prime, and went that way. I am trying to justify the 24-50 over this new one, but I think, as you said, more people are shooting wide now, I don't know that I need "faster" than the 2.8 at this focal range.
I already own the Tamron 17-28 lens so of course this lens makes no sense for me but I am always glad for more choice. I love that we have a bunch of different options when we go with Sony. I think if this lens was available when I was looking for a wide angle lens, I might've gotten it.
I wish someone would compare this lens with the 14mm 1.8 and 20mm 1.8. As I have the a7RV I can simply go into APSC mode to get a longer focal length so I’m really conflicted as to which lens to buy.
Hi Tony, great video indeed. How would you compare this lens against the much heavier Sony wide lense 12.24mm. Would it make sense to trade in my 12-24 for this new 16-25? Pros and cons?
The Sony 12-24 is in another world vs this lens… if you can live with this lens then do that! Why spend 3k if you don’t need to… if you are selling the 12-24 let me know, I’d love one
For a single walking around lens, what about the 20 mm F1 .8 G? It’s pretty close to the middle of the zoom range of the 16-25. It’s also faster. And cheaper. And a little lighter. And a little smaller.
Am considering buying this lens to replace the 16-25 GMI as the weigh is significant. Have the 24-70 so the loss of the upper end of the focal range is not a problem. Has been given good reviews by Petapixel and Gerald Undone too. However won’t be buying using Adorma to purchase as they don’t ship to the narrow but historical streets of the UK….Wont be using KEH either to trade in old gear either 😂 I did fin on my Sony R5 that using the handheld remote it would zoom in on a non powered zoom, guess it is using the crop factor to do that.
would love to see an comparison to the sigma 14-24mm? but didnt know this lense existed, shaperness is support important to me as a hybrid shooter, now i think i might go for this lens now...i need it for Long dress portraits
Hi, nice and informative video! Did you have the chance to get a lens profile for Lightroom yet? If not, do you use another lens's profile or correct it yourself? Thank in advance.
@@JACKnJESUS "surely" based on what assumption? Both the 16-35 and 16-25 are G lenses with f4 aperture. The 16-35 is a very recent lens, only 2 years old.
@@oriomenoni7651 For one, based on how this lens just bested two GM lenses...and the other reason would be...typically...if a lens starts at f/2.8 and is sharp (like this one), it will be razor sharp at f/4...easily. The other lens starts at f/4...it will be bested.
@@JACKnJESUS You haven't understood what I asked him, haven't you. I suggest you to re-read attentively. I asked him a comparison between two f4 lenses.
Hi, great video review. Please could you make an add on video for the 16-25 G with 24-50 G lenses from Sony and how they would work in terms of Zoom and magnification as decribed simialry in this video. Thank you for bringing great content.
Great review! Would love to see a video comparing the 3 Sony lenses most people are now going to consider: 16-25 f/2.8 + 16-35 f/4 PZ + 16-35mm GM ii. They all seem to have their unique strengths from a usability and practicality standpoint.
This is a... strange lens from Sony because the 16-35mm f/4 G lens exists and is awesome for outdoor vlogging and occasional low light shots. I used it to vlog my trip to Scandinavia and I loved the light weight and great optical performance. I don't have a good reason to get this. I wish they would've made it a 10 or 12-25mm range. That extra mm doesn't sound like much but it's a noticeable difference when it comes to ultra wide focal lengths. That would've been nice for vlogging.
Sony Zeiss 16-35mm f4 OSS is what I got. Its beat up, cost me like $300USD and its really good for the price and for a guy who does not shot a ton of wide shots. This is a cool lens though! Nice review Tony.
I have a quistion for you. I have just bought a Canon R7 (much from watching you two). I do a lot of wildlife-photography of mostly deer and smaler animals and I have a Sigma 70-300 1:4-5.6 on the camera now. Sometimes I need to take pictures from 200-250 meters and that lens wont quit make it then. What lens would you recommend for such distance (without ruin a persons economi totally) ??
Tony and Chelsea, I have had 2 Sony A1's in a row that eventually end up having severe issues shooting birds over water. The focus either gets obsessed with the water, or just can't get anything in focus, or looks like a distorted filter. If I am not shooting over water, no problem. After 2 cameras having this same issue, only after using each for a few months, I don't know what to do. Have you heard of this issue? MPB refuses to acknowledge the problem for warranty. Thanks
It should work great on the A7ii since this is a full frame lens designed for full frame cameras. The A6600 is crop sensor camera, so while this lens will work, it will give you a focal range of 24-38mm....so maybe not as useful. Bottom line though is that it is "compatible" with both cameras.
Because Canon is not Sony. Go figure. Sony is the company making lots of moves. Might be time to join them. I love their cameras. I also love my Nikon F2, but that is from another century. Sony FF cameras have a similar feel of the old Nikons and that is a good thing.
Sooo, nothing visible, but it has a built-in profile that automatically corrects the distortion. So if there's optical distortion you don't see it in the results.
Great video. I am impressed by the sharpness of the new Sony lens. Would you place the Sigma 14-24 in the same category as the new Sony 16-25, or does the weight difference separate them too much?
Please stop uploading HDR videos, somehow my youtube app doesn't display the colors right when the video is in HDR. Also, I can't turn the HDR off in the settings.
Might be the ultimate boat lens. As a fishing writer/photographer I do a lot of stuff in small boats (15' to 20'). A wide-angle zoom is a no-brainer, but anything over 24mm is an overkill for that work. But Tony, the narrow streets of Europe?
Please release a zoom with a USEFULfocal length... 16-50mm is available for apsc.. Why not full frame... 16-25...what reach does 25 give anyone... Nothing.
these new series of G lenses are really nice for the C series cameras.
These new compact lenses are a great complement to the new A77CR and A7CII. You can now build a great travel system with smaller lighter gear.
Great on the A7IV too. I’m happy for the C cameras and lighter lenses. Made for you used by me 😅
This lens re-defines the holy trinity concept: 16-25, 24-70, 70-200 @ f2.8
I would have bought this instead of the 16-35 GM if it were available. 16-25 G + 24-105 G + 100-400 GM would be a great trio. I am currently using the 20-70 G + 70-200 Macro G II + 1.4 TC, so it does not really fit well in my arsenal right now. If I need wider, I add the 14 GM, or if I need longer I swap out the 70-200 for a 100-400 GM.
Sharper than my 24GM? Jeez :( I just got it. At least i still have 1.4!
I HATE my 16-35mm f2.8 gm 1. I've always thought it was quite soft and focus never seems to hit very well. Would be very tempted to swap it out for this
exactly my thoughts.
I want to see a review of a sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 vs the new 16-25mm f2.8 .
I was planning on getting the Sigma mainly for real estate photography and some video. But with the smaller size of the Sony I’m now leaning toward that.
14mm vs 16mm is a big difference
@@RicanStudioYeah but I think I can make the 16 work.
I have the Sigma 14-24 and I'll probably sell it for this lens.
It's an great lens but I mainly shoot for travel. The Sigma 14-24 is literally double the weight of this lens. I'll sacrifice the 2mm on the wide end for a much smaller lens.
@@duvalpenny100 That's not true. The Sigma is 248g more but also has 2mm more wide angle which is a lot in that range. The GM II is nice though.
The F2.8 is so much better in museums than F4.
Hugh Brownstone, @3BMEP, just released his review of this lens, and he thinks the correction profile for the lens is not ready for prime time. He shoots a lot of urban landscape, and the distortion was noticeable and un-correctible, manually. If you're looking for a walk-around lens that's good for shooting architecture, you might want to keep looking.
Great video! I’d love to see a comparison of this lens and the 16-35 f/4 PZ.
Again, another great video. Would like to see the sharpness comparison of 12-24gm vs this new lens😊
Tony, but isn’t the Sony 20mm f1.8 a better choice?
I think Tamron 20-40mm 2.8 may be a better buy. With Tamron 35-150mm combo, one is pretty much all set. 20mm is wide enough for most situation and Tamron lens is small and light too.
I've got the sony 12-24mm gm and tamron 35-150mm combo.
the Sony w
20-70mm f4 is the ideal walking around lens, IMO. 20mm is wide enough for most things and you get a reach out to 70mm. The slower speed is fine for most occasions.
All set... until u try to shoot over 15fps
I’ve bought the tamron 20-40 f2.8 and have the Samyang 35-150 f2-2.8 for the longer end . Cheaper than tamron version . When I shot landscapes with my old Olympus I used 7.5mm Laowa and 7-14mm and always found my shots at 9 and 10mm so when I went Sony a7 full frame I got the 20mm prime tamron . Never feel I want wider . Hence why I went 20-40mm and as a carry around on holiday I did want longer zoom with me too. Maybe the Sony 20-70 would be better choice but it’s much more expensive ! .
@@RyanREAX 95% Sony users don't shoot A1 or A9.
Still happy with my 24 1.4
how would this be for real estate photography on the sony a7iv?
@4:30 f1.4 example does not look clearer. It's obviously not clearer
Rather just keep my 16-35mm GMii. Better glass. Please do a 16-35 vs 16-25 comparison video
10:03 Honestly I'm conflicted on getting this or not. Looks good on paper but.....
I started using Sony in Q4'18 with a Zeiss 16-35 f4 (at wider end). Since then I added most of GM primes (all kept) and several zooms, many tried and sold. Restricting this just to w/a, I tried both a Tamron 17-28 and a GM 16-35. Tamron beat all at some points, but sold all my wide zooms bar the pretty good GM. Didn't always take that GM 16-35 as heavy, not so good at 35mm and overlapped my GM mkii 24-70, which often got paired with a 20mm or 14mm prime.
So I then sold my 16-35 GM as I suspected a mkii replacement was in the pipeline. I bought the excellent PZ 16-35 f4 to 'tide me over' and it made for a lighter wide zoom experience.
Plus I figured for landscape, architecture etc I usually stopped down from f2.8 so maybe couldn't justify the mkii GM. For astro I'd use a prime 24, 20 or 14 GM/G anyway rather than a f2.8 zoom
I might yet buy a new mkii GM 16-35 to go with my mkii GM 24-70 and 70-200. But the 'trinity' set is a hefty travel package, with 2 bodies and a couple of fast primes so it's a rare trip when all 3 GM trinity zooms would go out. Hence my conflicted view about replacing my now sold GM mk1.
When travelling I usually opted for a 70-200 plus either a 16-35 or a 24-70 and covered the missing range with one or two primes. If I got a mkii 16-35 then I might just pack a 50mm GM f1.4 or the still excellent lighter Zeiss 55mm f1.8.
Light primes are a joy to use whilst the zooms are big but convenient and versatile. I currently own 15 Sony lenses and can't ever carry all on any one trip. So I'm still trying to decide if a 16-25 G would be wasted on me 🤔.
Tony, great review and has me thinking. I want to have a zoom I have the 50mm F1.4 GM already and want something as a walk around for my A7Siii and Sony A74. I just do this as a hobby, so another GM is not what I can afford. I am debating between the 24-50mm F2.8 G and this new 16-25mm F2.8 G. I just got the 20mm F1.8 G (though I have about a week to change my mind and send it back). I think I want one prime and one zoom as a lightweight travel kit for both video and photo. I have always loved the 50 over the 35, so that is why I wanted one GM lens in a prime, and went that way. I am trying to justify the 24-50 over this new one, but I think, as you said, more people are shooting wide now, I don't know that I need "faster" than the 2.8 at this focal range.
I am curious if next time, for example, there will be a 50-100mm.f.2.8 lens in the same size as the first two in the series?
Quick question. Comparison with 24 1.4 was done at 1.4 or 2.8 aperture?
For sure f1.4. At f2.8 the corners of my 24mm are much better.
I already own the Tamron 17-28 lens so of course this lens makes no sense for me but I am always glad for more choice. I love that we have a bunch of different options when we go with Sony. I think if this lens was available when I was looking for a wide angle lens, I might've gotten it.
I wish someone would compare this lens with the 14mm 1.8 and 20mm 1.8. As I have the a7RV I can simply go into APSC mode to get a longer focal length so I’m really conflicted as to which lens to buy.
Hi Tony, great video indeed. How would you compare this lens against the much heavier Sony wide lense 12.24mm. Would it make sense to trade in my 12-24 for this new 16-25? Pros and cons?
The Sony 12-24 is in another world vs this lens… if you can live with this lens then do that! Why spend 3k if you don’t need to… if you are selling the 12-24 let me know, I’d love one
For a single walking around lens, what about the 20 mm F1 .8 G? It’s pretty close to the middle of the zoom range of the 16-25. It’s also faster. And cheaper. And a little lighter. And a little smaller.
Indeed, lots of advantages with the 20 mm prime.
LOL..then you lose the 16-20 benefit of the 16-25. A BIG nope for me.
Am considering buying this lens to replace the 16-25 GMI as the weigh is significant. Have the 24-70 so the loss of the upper end of the focal range is not a problem. Has been given good reviews by Petapixel and Gerald Undone too. However won’t be buying using Adorma to purchase as they don’t ship to the narrow but historical streets of the UK….Wont be using KEH either to trade in old gear either 😂 I did fin on my Sony R5 that using the handheld remote it would zoom in on a non powered zoom, guess it is using the crop factor to do that.
would love to see an comparison to the sigma 14-24mm? but didnt know this lense existed, shaperness is support important to me as a hybrid shooter, now i think i might go for this lens now...i need it for Long dress portraits
Hi, nice and informative video!
Did you have the chance to get a lens profile for Lightroom yet? If not, do you use another lens's profile or correct it yourself? Thank in advance.
How does it compare with Sony G 16-35 f4 ?
It beats the 16-35GM...it will surely best the 16-35 f/4.
@@JACKnJESUS "surely" based on what assumption? Both the 16-35 and 16-25 are G lenses with f4 aperture. The 16-35 is a very recent lens, only 2 years old.
@@oriomenoni7651 For one, based on how this lens just bested two GM lenses...and the other reason would be...typically...if a lens starts at f/2.8 and is sharp (like this one), it will be razor sharp at f/4...easily. The other lens starts at f/4...it will be bested.
@@JACKnJESUS You haven't understood what I asked him, haven't you. I suggest you to re-read attentively. I asked him a comparison between two f4 lenses.
@@oriomenoni7651 That's fine...sorry. head to head the sony f/4 is excellent
Hi, great video review. Please could you make an add on video for the 16-25 G with 24-50 G lenses from Sony and how they would work in terms of Zoom and magnification as decribed simialry in this video. Thank you for bringing great content.
Great review! Would love to see a video comparing the 3 Sony lenses most people are now going to consider: 16-25 f/2.8 + 16-35 f/4 PZ + 16-35mm GM ii. They all seem to have their unique strengths from a usability and practicality standpoint.
This is a... strange lens from Sony because the 16-35mm f/4 G lens exists and is awesome for outdoor vlogging and occasional low light shots.
I used it to vlog my trip to Scandinavia and I loved the light weight and great optical performance. I don't have a good reason to get this.
I wish they would've made it a 10 or 12-25mm range. That extra mm doesn't sound like much but it's a noticeable difference when it comes to ultra wide focal lengths. That would've been nice for vlogging.
Sony Zeiss 16-35mm f4 OSS is what I got. Its beat up, cost me like $300USD and its really good for the price and for a guy who does not shot a ton of wide shots. This is a cool lens though! Nice review Tony.
Sigma 20mm f1.4 splits the difference in focal length, is two stops faster, costs a lot less, but weighs a bit more at 620g
I have a quistion for you.
I have just bought a Canon R7 (much from watching you two).
I do a lot of wildlife-photography of mostly deer and smaler animals and I have a Sigma 70-300 1:4-5.6 on the camera now.
Sometimes I need to take pictures from 200-250 meters and that lens wont quit make it then.
What lens would you recommend for such distance (without ruin a persons economi totally) ??
Tony Technique : Take an exquisite wide angle shot and then put a beautiful Porsche in it just to flex 💪
Tony and Chelsea, I have had 2 Sony A1's in a row that eventually end up having severe issues shooting birds over water. The focus either gets obsessed with the water, or just can't get anything in focus, or looks like a distorted filter. If I am not shooting over water, no problem. After 2 cameras having this same issue, only after using each for a few months, I don't know what to do. Have you heard of this issue? MPB refuses to acknowledge the problem for warranty. Thanks
Is this lens compatible with A6600? Or A7 II?
It should work great on the A7ii since this is a full frame lens designed for full frame cameras. The A6600 is crop sensor camera, so while this lens will work, it will give you a focal range of 24-38mm....so maybe not as useful. Bottom line though is that it is "compatible" with both cameras.
@@tedbowling5036 Thank you :)
Is that a uv filter i see on your 16-35 gm?😏
Is that bad?
@@alphaandomega2709 not in my book, but tony made a video bashing all filters except polarizing filters.
Does anyone have opinions on this lens vs the Sigma 14-24mm F2.8 since they are very similar in price when the sigma is on sale?
This lens would pair great with the 28-70 f2 GM. This or the 20 f1.8 G.
IMO, the Sigma 14-24 or Tamron 17-28mm are better focal lengths.
I like the size but it doesn't cover enough of a range to be worth it to me. If it went up to maybe 28 or 30 at that size it might be the move
Great review! My first thought as a Canon shooter is ‘why don’t Canon have anywhere near the selection that Sony shooters get?!’ 🙈
Because Canon is not Sony. Go figure. Sony is the company making lots of moves. Might be time to join them. I love their cameras. I also love my Nikon F2, but that is from another century. Sony FF cameras have a similar feel of the old Nikons and that is a good thing.
did adobe just raise their prices? It wont let me on lightrrom
Why did I have to go and buy the 16-35mm F4 G :(
Another amazing video, thanks!
Distortion throughout its range?
Sooo, nothing visible, but it has a built-in profile that automatically corrects the distortion. So if there's optical distortion you don't see it in the results.
@TonyAndChelsea 👍🏻 Hugh Brownstone saw some crazy distortion shooting buildings in NYC. Stuff that he couldn't correct. Wonder if he got a wonky copy.
Great video. I am impressed by the sharpness of the new Sony lens. Would you place the Sigma 14-24 in the same category as the new Sony 16-25, or does the weight difference separate them too much?
Great video, Tony how would this lens be for Astro landscape photography.
I’m looking at upgrading my old rig.
Please stop uploading HDR videos, somehow my youtube app doesn't display the colors right when the video is in HDR. Also, I can't turn the HDR off in the settings.
Might be the ultimate boat lens. As a fishing writer/photographer I do a lot of stuff in small boats (15' to 20'). A wide-angle zoom is a no-brainer, but anything over 24mm is an overkill for that work.
But Tony, the narrow streets of Europe?
Tony, are you grading your HLG3? content? Did you make a video about HDR video? thanks.
Perfect for me..., I already own the Sony 35mm GM... 🎉
go for the 16-35mm, no reason fot this lens
Please release a zoom with a USEFULfocal length... 16-50mm is available for apsc.. Why not full frame... 16-25...what reach does 25 give anyone... Nothing.
If I don't have my 20 mm 1.8 I would definitely consider this lens.
Nice car Chelsea
...and they still shoot average photos.
That’s user error buddy
Prime lens is better option than this. Terrible focal length. It’s like getting a 91-100mm 2.8 😂.
At least Sony made it, look at the competition they have no good compact lenses.
Zoom range for clowns
16-25 F2 would of been enticing to switch from the 20G. This lens is a downgrade from the 20G. Need a 24GMII or 24mm F1.2
16 to 25 lol. I can cover that range in a few steps. Another useless G product. When is it gonna end?
My thoughts as well, 16-35 is great but 16-25 seems useless.