That was hands down the single most beautiful solid rocket exhaust trail I have ever seen. If it wasn't for the thick white and black smoke before and after you could have convinced me it was hypergolic fuel.
E90_Boris right, except this one. Because it says “solid rocket motor” a “motor” means solid rocket propellant. A rocket engine, is liquid fuel and it also says “solid” in the title. So this comment is confusing to me lol.
@@eeuumm2128 I agree , also as the specific impulse of the SRBs is very low compared to liquid fuel engines , It won't make much sense to carry them in higher altitudes and use in vaccum with the added weight of an aerospike nozzle , still it's pretty cool stuff
@@necaton I'm not sure what you were replying to... me saying what??? or me saying I watched this over 50 times. I know I'm taking this way more seriously that I should but I'm curious.
Aerospikes/Plug-Nozzles (created by Aerojet) have the advantage of maintaining opmtimal expansion throughout it's flight regime. Bell Nozzles are generally designed to be optimized for a given altitude range, and can suffer from over (loosing effective thrust) or under expansion (loosing thrust and damaging the nozzle). In liquid fueled engines, they are much more compact, and can be made to vector thrust by trottling individual combustion chambers, dispensing with heavy hydralics.
Professor Emeritus - it amazes me to no end that this successful nozzle configuration is not commonplace. Lockheed Martin's venturestar program would have proven this hands down!!
Why does everyone bitch about Taco Bell giving them “the shits”? I’ve never had an issue with Taco Bell making my butthole angry. Only McDonald’s does that
@@intothevoid5074 Same with Puff monopropellant engine. It's just the AJ-10 OMS engine from the Space Shuttle, minus the OMS pod. That's also why it's angled like it is, so it can be attached at the top of the Mk3 engine mount while still pointing roughly through the CoM, or at least close enough to where the gimbal can take care of getting it to point through the CoM
Fun fact: The AJ-10 is also the most efficient hypergolic engine currently operated by the US, and 3rd most efficient operational hypergolic engine in the world
As a concept they have potential, given that aerospikes are projected to perform really well in atmospheres, with the raw power of an srb format they might be able to work.
The "single stage to orbit" shuttle type vehicle that was been developed in the early 90s used an aerospike. The drawback to normal engines is the nozzle. It only has one outside air pressure where it is at peak efficiency. At liftoff, the high air pressure at the ground "pinches" the plume and reduces thrust. At high altitude the very low pressure allows the plume to "bloom" or over expand, also reducing thrust. This is really visible in a Saturn V launch, and also Shuttle launches viewed from the ET cam. Near MECO, the SSME plume fills the whole screen it's so expanded. Aerospike uses the air pressure as the nozzle. So it's always at peak efficiency no matter the pressure altitude.
Along *Zoomer30's* line: The perfect balance is when the pressure of the exhaust as it exits the thrust chamber (the bell of a conventional engine) is equal to the ambient air pressure. If exhaust pressure is too low, the exhaust flow will separate from the wall of the thrust chamber before it exits. There are clips of this if you look long enough.. A good place is the SDASM UA-cam channel, the early Atlas tests. Because the engine was designed to have the hot exhaust touching the whole way out, when it does not touch it can become unstable. At the other end of the flight is something that cant' be avoided: Venting into a vacuum, the gasses simply cannot equal the extremely low pressure of a vacuum, so some gasses can be seen as exiting apparently perpendicular to the flight path. But the pushing of the thrust takes place somewhere inside the thrust chamber, maybe even at the last plane inside the he bell. The gasses venting away are simply not contained by ambient air pressure like they were a couple of minutes later on the pad. My thought on aerospike is: If it had proven superior, it would have found an application, big or small. This clip made me think of maneuvering thrusters.
A full aerospike with isentropic expansion would deliver this. This is not possible in reality, however, as the nozzle would be ridiculously long, and the tip would break off. With a truncated aerospike, it never quite reaches the peak efficiency of a bell nozzle, but it is much more efficient over most of the burn, so overall efficiency is markedly better.
Yep, that is true with perfectly designed aerospikes. Here, the cone is not "curved", meaning it doesn't get more pointy at the end (if you know what I mean😅) that causes the flow to not be pointed straight at the end of the spike. This however makes it cross the flow from the other sides of the spike. And that's why it causes shock diamonds. (The flows cross each other behind the tip, then go away from each other, but that creates a low-pressure zone (aka the shock diamonds) in between them that pulls them in again which causes them to cross again and then it repeats)
@@generationedge6699 umm no that's not the problem. There are aerospikes that don't create shock diamonds. The point is, it's difficult to build one in this size since the tip would get way too hot if it was designed to avoid shock diamonds. So you'd have to cool it and/or use expensive materials and I guess these people here didn't have the resources to do so.
@@janpenner2002 Exactly. Because aerospikes have about twice as much surface area to cool than their casual bell counterparts. Virtually, the biggest advantage aerospikes have over bell shaped engines is just optimization at any altitude or pressure. Other than that, in our atmosphere, they fall pretty close to bell-shaped . Bell shaped engines are way easier to cool. Thats why no aerospike has ever made it onto a rocket. Plus, aerospikes are very heavy. So it's disadvantages outweigh its advantages.
Aerospikes have been around for years. Advantages? They work better for efficiency at all altitudes. Downsides. Typically lower thrust, heat up wayyyy too much, much more complex, still very very cool engines tho. Similar to the rotary engine in cars. Very cool engine, but a bitch to manage in real life.
It is very sad the X-33 never flew, with it's utterly simple and superbly efficient linear aerospike motor. :( Why are no launch vehicles using aerospikes?
This is very impressive! i really like the Aerospike nozzle and think that it should be used in more applications. Is this the same nozzle design that is used on the bigger 12 and 19 inch rockets?
And +1337fraggzb00N Stole the comments from CLayaway1 4 years ago looks like my ass after the last time I had taco bell... Or Taco Bell is still as bad as I remember....
There's obviously no improvement between that and a bell nozzle at normal atmospheric conditions the improvement comes within changes to those pressures, where a bell nozzle will be optomized for the "mean atmospheric conditions" that its going to be working its hardest through. Regardless to say you need to be able to do alot of physical research into this to understand.
My immediate thought once the flames appeared, which I verbalised, was "Holy Sh*t!"... I've wanted toroidal solid fuel aerospike engines for a while, and this was aesthetically (and audibly) the best flame I have ever known.
Can someone kindly explain to me what's going on? How does it have such a powerful, long stream of fire? This is amazing looking and I imagine it's very fast too.
H2+O2+Energy(heat) -> 2 H2O. In other words, hydrogen and Oxygen makes water when burnt. It's very simple chemistry. However I do think that it is possible to synthesize kerosene from bio-matter (much like Bio-ethanol can be synthesized or rather fermented using straw from grain production).
*The solid fuel is burnt quickly due to a igniter that burns all sides at once and suddenly all the fuel is burnt quick then cools down fast causing a burst of pressure to the nozzle making a blue flame and a black surge.*
That was hands down the single most beautiful solid rocket exhaust trail I have ever seen. If it wasn't for the thick white and black smoke before and after you could have convinced me it was hypergolic fuel.
Max Kopstein There are No Aerospikes that uses Solid fuel
E90_Boris right, except this one. Because it says “solid rocket motor” a “motor” means solid rocket propellant. A rocket engine, is liquid fuel and it also says “solid” in the title. So this comment is confusing to me lol.
@@E9X330 Are you able to use solid rocket fuel with aerospikes?
solid but dust, very small solid grains, thinner than coffe powder.
@@metrez4537 apparently yes and I doubt you can use liquid fuel, that's only in ksp for now
When you are trying to fart slowly in public ..
@@OrionCrusader LIFTOFF
Capitão Explosão We have liftoff of human fart gas
@@docnathan3959 basically the raptor engine, cuz it runs on methane. It must smell really bad around it
buahahhaha
@@Fred_the_1996 brasileiro é foda
Where can I get one of these? I need to take care of some wasps.
you cant, it would blow off your arm.
worth it
true
Elon Musk was selling it, sadly it has sold out :(
Those wasps are going t have a bad day and I will be smiling the hole time me and wasps don't get along well to say the least
I didn’t know those existed... It’s cool to have a SRB whose efficiency is conserved in all layers of the atmosphere.
Almost all SRBs are used in the first stage , hence at the sea level
@@aniketrawat8734 yeah, but having an aero spike makes it efficient at all levels of an atmosphere (I think)
@@eeuumm2128 I agree , also as the specific impulse of the SRBs is very low compared to liquid fuel engines , It won't make much sense to carry them in higher altitudes and use in vaccum with the added weight of an aerospike nozzle , still it's pretty cool stuff
@@aniketrawat8734 yeah, you’re right. It’s still interesting what the engines of the future will look like.
@@aniketrawat8734 SRM's are very common in upper stages too, see Antares, Minotaur, and kick stage motors like the STAR family of motors.
Exam supervisor: 1 min left. Pls hurry up.
My Pen :
youtube: how about Aerospike Nozzle Solid Rocket Motor
Me: YES!
Y E S !
I dont even know what it is but *HELL YEAH*
YES YES YES
I love when its at full thrust and the camera shakes. Too cool!
Thats what she said...?
Me: You ok babe?
Her: Yeah, I'm fine
Her 5 seconds later: 0:08
iliketrains0pwned XD
I don't know what this comment means but this is accurate
Bold you assume we have a gf
Happy Egg when you ask your gf is fine and she says she is but she actually isn’t
Me: ⊙_⊙
Gotta love those shock diamonds!
Plumes
Saf
What are they?
@Carp oh thanks :)
Those aren't any good for the engine, it reduces efficiency
Incredible how much power this can put out
mach diamonds. Damn good.
Robert Palmore Shock diamonds, not mach diamonds.
TactileCoder Your right. Shock diamonds. Mach disks.
Difference?
technicality.
Ah
Now that's an impressive rocket motor! Those mach diamonds are incredible!
Yo did know you would be here. I mean considering it IS a rocket video I'm not suprised
The shock diamonds reduce efficiency.
I watched this for over 50 times by now.
Congratulations
@@ELPlop What???
@@PBlague Same
@@PBlague What?
@@necaton I'm not sure what you were replying to... me saying what??? or me saying I watched this over 50 times. I know I'm taking this way more seriously that I should but I'm curious.
This is what your eyes feel like when your mom randomly turns on your light while your sleeping
At higher altitudes, this would vastly improve the performance of SRB's at higher altitudes.
What are the computational models suggesting??
I wish I knew...
How many fuels do you want?
Aerospike: yes
Aerospikes/Plug-Nozzles (created by Aerojet) have the advantage of maintaining opmtimal expansion throughout it's flight regime. Bell Nozzles are generally designed to be optimized for a given altitude range, and can suffer from over (loosing effective thrust) or under expansion (loosing thrust and damaging the nozzle). In liquid fueled engines, they are much more compact, and can be made to vector thrust by trottling individual combustion chambers, dispensing with heavy hydralics.
Professor Emeritus - it amazes me to no end that this successful nozzle configuration is not commonplace. Lockheed Martin's venturestar program would have proven this hands down!!
*Something something Taco Bell*
Walk in
🤔 Which diarrhea do I want
Why does everyone bitch about Taco Bell giving them “the shits”? I’ve never had an issue with Taco Bell making my butthole angry. Only McDonald’s does that
Yo quiero
@@daddyplankton5855 Spicy Doritos Locos Tacos
@@oxide9679 you got a strong stomach man
This video singlehandedly showed me exactly how aerospikes work
Very cool, I can see why it has heating problems on the spike :D
wait, you sayin' the aerospike is real, and not just a silly game developer fabrication thing for KSP?
oh my god...
Most things in KSP are real, but they're usually prototypes that haven't been fully tested.
@@hmmyou2544 such as the KS-25x4 Mammoth is real, as it is just 4 RS-25 engines stuck together
Aerospikes are a type of nozzle
@@intothevoid5074 Same with Puff monopropellant engine. It's just the AJ-10 OMS engine from the Space Shuttle, minus the OMS pod. That's also why it's angled like it is, so it can be attached at the top of the Mk3 engine mount while still pointing roughly through the CoM, or at least close enough to where the gimbal can take care of getting it to point through the CoM
Fun fact: The AJ-10 is also the most efficient hypergolic engine currently operated by the US, and 3rd most efficient operational hypergolic engine in the world
"5..4...3..2..." "Huh what the?" "1..." "Huh? whhaaa.. ahhhhhAHHHHHHHH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK" -Rocket
Beat comment
Hi.
Nobody:
UA-cam 9 years after this was made: wanna watch this?
same
Yup
I can confirm that.
Indeed
Same same
The engine just went supersaiyan!
Omg yes 🔥
Even the noise is as loud as their yelling lol.
Cringe.
*Seeing shock diamonds in the exhaust is always a good sign!*
Solid rocket aerospike...
This breaks me as a kerbal player.
As a concept they have potential, given that aerospikes are projected to perform really well in atmospheres, with the raw power of an srb format they might be able to work.
Woah, I've never seen an areospike solid fuel
True
why does everyone use that guy with black glasses and black background as their profile pic
Based Bidoof i looked in the comment section to that video and everyone has it
That's my cigarette lighter...
это зажигалка моей газовой плиты
хз тожхз"это моя зажигалка для сигарет",идиот
значит мы покупаем зажигалки в одном магазине, кретин
thats dope
you must be an animal
Fun fact: Every legendary video is less than a minute.
The "single stage to orbit" shuttle type vehicle that was been developed in the early 90s used an aerospike. The drawback to normal engines is the nozzle. It only has one outside air pressure where it is at peak efficiency. At liftoff, the high air pressure at the ground "pinches" the plume and reduces thrust. At high altitude the very low pressure allows the plume to "bloom" or over expand, also reducing thrust. This is really visible in a Saturn V launch, and also Shuttle launches viewed from the ET cam. Near MECO, the SSME plume fills the whole screen it's so expanded.
Aerospike uses the air pressure as the nozzle. So it's always at peak efficiency no matter the pressure altitude.
Along *Zoomer30's* line: The perfect balance is when the pressure of the exhaust as it exits the thrust chamber (the bell of a conventional engine) is equal to the ambient air pressure. If exhaust pressure is too low, the exhaust flow will separate from the wall of the thrust chamber before it exits. There are clips of this if you look long enough.. A good place is the SDASM UA-cam channel, the early Atlas tests. Because the engine was designed to have the hot exhaust touching the whole way out, when it does not touch it can become unstable. At the other end of the flight is something that cant' be avoided: Venting into a vacuum, the gasses simply cannot equal the extremely low pressure of a vacuum, so some gasses can be seen as exiting apparently perpendicular to the flight path. But the pushing of the thrust takes place somewhere inside the thrust chamber, maybe even at the last plane inside the he bell. The gasses venting away are simply not contained by ambient air pressure like they were a couple of minutes later on the pad. My thought on aerospike is: If it had proven superior, it would have found an application, big or small. This clip made me think of maneuvering thrusters.
Jeasus f***ing Christ that is the shortest comment I have ever seen
A full aerospike with isentropic expansion would deliver this. This is not possible in reality, however, as the nozzle would be ridiculously long, and the tip would break off. With a truncated aerospike, it never quite reaches the peak efficiency of a bell nozzle, but it is much more efficient over most of the burn, so overall efficiency is markedly better.
This is the cleanest aerospike i have ever seen!
I thought aerospikes weren’t supposed to form shock diamonds due to their high efficiency
What do you mean? I know litrle about the subject but am interested
Yep, that is true with perfectly designed aerospikes. Here, the cone is not "curved", meaning it doesn't get more pointy at the end (if you know what I mean😅) that causes the flow to not be pointed straight at the end of the spike. This however makes it cross the flow from the other sides of the spike. And that's why it causes shock diamonds. (The flows cross each other behind the tip, then go away from each other, but that creates a low-pressure zone (aka the shock diamonds) in between them that pulls them in again which causes them to cross again and then it repeats)
Bro. There has not been enogh research on aerospikes. That's why they form shock diamonda
@@generationedge6699 umm no that's not the problem. There are aerospikes that don't create shock diamonds. The point is, it's difficult to build one in this size since the tip would get way too hot if it was designed to avoid shock diamonds. So you'd have to cool it and/or use expensive materials and I guess these people here didn't have the resources to do so.
@@janpenner2002 Exactly. Because aerospikes have about twice as much surface area to cool than their casual bell counterparts. Virtually, the biggest advantage aerospikes have over bell shaped engines is just optimization at any altitude or pressure. Other than that, in our atmosphere, they fall pretty close to bell-shaped . Bell shaped engines are way easier to cool. Thats why no aerospike has ever made it onto a rocket. Plus, aerospikes are very heavy. So it's disadvantages outweigh its advantages.
Thank you. I did not know the COANDER Effect worked at these speeds.
You actually would have seen this happen sooner and on a smaller scale if you have tocobell
Starting to look like science fiction depiction of space travel movies. Almost there boys
Far from it.
Still not even close to reach only Mars...
Aerospikes have been around for years. Advantages? They work better for efficiency at all altitudes. Downsides. Typically lower thrust, heat up wayyyy too much, much more complex, still very very cool engines tho. Similar to the rotary engine in cars. Very cool engine, but a bitch to manage in real life.
Yo! That thing looks really small! Shock diamonds on such a small thing is really impressive!
It is very sad the X-33 never flew, with it's utterly simple and superbly efficient linear aerospike motor. :(
Why are no launch vehicles using aerospikes?
I'm almost a decade late, but mainly cooling and weight
@@innacrisis6991 yeah lol
Cool, i've never seen a solid rocket aerospike!
HOLY FUCK Shock Diamonds ?!?! thats SICK !
That was a hell of a lot more awesome than I expected. lol
This is very impressive! i really like
the Aerospike nozzle and think that it
should be used in more applications.
Is this the same nozzle design that is
used on the bigger 12 and 19 inch rockets?
Yup. Just like the fireworks I buy every year. Congratulations.
Uh, no, really not.
*Finally, a lighter I can use when I want to go from new York to San Francisco in 3 hours*
Something that looks powerful
Looks like my ass after Taco Bell.
+1337fraggzb00N GG
+1337fraggzb00N Best comment I've seen all day.
+1337fraggzb00N Fuck. You stole the words from my mouth!
And +1337fraggzb00N Stole the comments from CLayaway1 4 years ago
looks like my ass after the last time I had taco bell... Or Taco Bell is still as bad as I remember....
TheOldGuyPhil i did not read older comments. I do not have a lot of time while eating at das Tacko Bell.
looks like the aerospike thrust nozzle works pretty good
How much thrust was the original engine? what was the original efficiency? how much did the areospike improve it?
There's obviously no improvement between that and a bell nozzle at normal atmospheric conditions the improvement comes within changes to those pressures, where a bell nozzle will be optomized for the "mean atmospheric conditions" that its going to be working its hardest through. Regardless to say you need to be able to do alot of physical research into this to understand.
I'm using headphones and it sounded like you just shoved that rocket into my ear
This video...
ADDED TO MY FAVES!
8 years passed
Im replying to an 8 year old comment
When my brother doesn’t get out of my room, I show him this video, then I show the engine
When the ketchup is not coming out of bottle so i squeeze it hard.
The ketchup:
My immediate thought once the flames appeared, which I verbalised, was "Holy Sh*t!"...
I've wanted toroidal solid fuel aerospike engines for a while, and this was aesthetically (and audibly) the best flame I have ever known.
When you eat too many beans...
Nigga u eating bean
*Dramatic Camera Shake*
xD
taco
You ate all my beans nigga
This is going to be in your recommended
I use this engine all the time in KSP for my Space Shuttles and testing other space planes. :3
Wow this design is awesome
Boy: 0:06: Babe, cant go to your place, I am busy
Girl: Theres no one home, babe
Boy: 0:08
Vou traduzir esse meme e depois eu volto pra rir...
Dad: hey son what are you watching.
Me : aerospike nozzle solid rocket motor static firing.
Can someone kindly explain to me what's going on? How does it have such a powerful, long stream of fire? This is amazing looking and I imagine it's very fast too.
The spike on the end combines the flow and creates a longer plume
Also there is an ungodly amount of pressure behind that nozzle
10yrs back... Still more satisfying
0:05 "IMA FIRIN MAH LAZER" 0:09 "WHAAAAAAAAAAAA"
0:05 0:09
Lmao, old memes is gold
lol
@@papyfun5097 good times
@@dsimoncic yoo you're still alive
Here I am getting this in my recommended 10 years later
H2+O2+Energy(heat) -> 2 H2O.
In other words, hydrogen and Oxygen makes water when burnt. It's very simple chemistry. However I do think that it is possible to synthesize kerosene from bio-matter (much like Bio-ethanol can be synthesized or rather fermented using straw from grain production).
It’s not h2o it’s hho or oxyhydrogen
Me: it's too windy to light the joint.
My buddy's crack lighter: *WOOOOOOOOSH!!*
I didn't understand what the title meant, it looked like a cluster of scientific words, so I clicked to check it out.
The UA-cam channel Everyday Astronaut has a video explaining Aerospikes
It's a new tipe of propulsor
The new australian candle look so cool
That's some dragon ball z masenko shit.
That was some serious fire power
Interesting exhaust velocity surge around 0:09. Any explanations?
Rate of fuel burn goes up these are just tests not meant to be perfect running engines
I don't think its a surge. Could actually be slowing down. The exiting gases are as a result cooler and lose pressure hence the expansion.
It takes a second or two to come up to full pressure/thrust once lit, those are just pressure oscillations until its burning stable.
*The solid fuel is burnt quickly due to a igniter that burns all sides at once and suddenly all the fuel is burnt quick then cools down fast causing a burst of pressure to the nozzle making a blue flame and a black surge.*
Fact this is 10 years ago and recommended now
Imgur brought me here.
same
Field Trip!!!
aka the file cabinet of reddit
reddit brought me here what are you doing.
finally, jet engine for your rocket both visually and literally, at least in it's efficiency or something
0:07 Literally Everyone that has Saiyan abilities in Dragon Ball Z
lol this made me laugh.. idk why
That looked very efficient
I wonder if Estes will ever sell these...
*GASP* OMG THEY SHOULD
Never seen Mach diamonds in a a solid fueled motor before. That’s frickin awesome, my dudes.
But can it melt steel beams?
but can it melt steel memes?
allahu akbar
I can melt Chuck Norris
All jokes aside
That actually looks badass
at first i was like -.-
But then I was like O_O
gatta love those super sonic exhaust diamonds.
0:05 ignition sequence start
0:08 ignition
This is next gen right here. This could send people to the moon
Is this kerbal space program?
Toroidal aerospike engine, yes they have it in ksp
Good to see the menu from Taco Bueno has a better use.
Looks like a freaking Laser Beam
BURNING LASER*
Thank you for the shock diamonds.
interesting and beautiful!
Hi are you still there...
After 9 years
@@Ashwini_SK he married a lady and has 3 kids each above 20y/o now
I don't know why it put's a smile on my face
anyone else on a random video spree?
Looks like about three millimeters of the cone tip just burned away. Good demo on why we aren't using these yet.
They should make a new light sabre out of this
Yeah!!!😂
+boomchacle Truong If it wasn't dead screwed to the floor with massive bolts this light "sabre" would rip your hands off when ignited.
+Spirit haha not so "light" saber
*****
I feel like it could make a mounted turret flamethrower or something
boomchacle No.
We need more aero spikes!!!
Never seen an Aerospike on an SRB.
holy shit i jsut realized it was an SRB.
my awe of this video just incresed 10fold
The plume is so clean for solid fuel
David Willis oh hey David
Nobody:
Airplanes after they hit a bird:
Little baby rocket almost deafened me :
i would try to convince the guy running the lab to let me roast marshmallows on that
its a flame sword
Intel!🥺
Cool to watch it 10 years later!
Ha it's only smoke and won't hurt if I put my face a little bit clos-
I've to admit that....
UA-cam, a decade ago was something else....