So what kind of attack is the bombing of Nord Stream? Even if it was an attack by Russia, NATO would be helpless. Don't forget that the weapons NATO provided to Ukraine also killed many Russian soldiers. Does that count as NATO declaring war on Russia?
@@yunlan996 With that logic it means Iran, North Korea and China have attacked the Ukraine as well. Suppling weapons is not attacking someone. Perhaps if Russia stopped this senseless war of aggression this wouldn't be a problem.
I agree with both . Ukrainian people are bloody, proud men, and families are now broken apart it's horrible. All the children have been hurt , hospitals have been attacked, and not to mention the Russian army don't want this war either but the tiny little man needs some steps to stand on the stage . It will backfire at some point it did to Germany it will with russia. I wish everyone a merry Christmas
german should learn from klaus von don!! he is 200% right yr country and others put there own countrys into trouble because stand with usa as he said usa will pull every countrys into trouble as long usa get what they!!!! want not for countrys
@@darthfader733 Ukraine is not even Nato member state and had no chance to join. Putin needs excuses, not a reason. He wants Ukraine. He could invade non Nato Ukraine oly.
What happened to that Chinese ship that cut the communication cable in the Baltic Sea at the behest of Russia? Can someone answer me. Looks like I missed the sequel.🤔
@@nazistowskisnob543"The Germans are silly." Cutting edge debate? LOL. "Americans supervised the destruction of their Nord stream" And your evidence is? «Немцы глупые». Передовая дискуссия? Лол «Американцы руководили уничтожением их Северного потока» И ваши доказательства?
Kremlin bot, first of all it‘s called oreshnik, not oreshkin. Second, you‘re delusional if you think NATO can‘t counter, Russia can‘t even prevent missiles that are already striking its own territory, has to beg North Korea for menpower and has exposed itself to be an useless ally to Al Assad‘s regime. Stay in your bubble, it‘ll burst quicker than you learning how to spell your weapons right.
US already has missle defense that can destroy over 2 thousand nukes that's most of a Russian king range missiles. Not to mention US giant manta ray ship sup that can destroy entire Chinese and a Russian fleets with its drones.
As lord Ismay, the first Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), said the purpose of the Alliance is to keep the Americans in Europe, the Russians out, and the Germans down! DW doing their part to keep Germany down!
She is correct about not wanting to deal with it differently from other attacks (in the long term [now that the attacks are the current norm we need to make them not an ongoing thing first before we can deal with them with deterrance in the future]). Real damage (which happens, just usually not costing lives [though when hospitals have to shut down there are probably excess civilian deaths]) eventually needs to be answered in a way making them as impossible as invading a Nato member is. Attributation might be the real problem long term, as you cannot retaliate if you are not sure who did it.
Imagine sending all your money to one of the most corrupt country in the world. While you're country menn get 750 dollars after losing everything after a hurricane !! And left media don't report that!!
And your ability to spread false information is far superior than the left media. The entire $750 thingy is an absolute myth. And that has been proven over and over again. Stop drinking Kool aid and drink some coffee instead! And speaking of corruption, your going to love Trump's crony cabinet, they are going to do so much for us - most of it wrong!!
Old Vladdy-No-Shirt must be sniffing around the farm for new front line recruits... the under bridge dwellers are sounding more and more desperate in these comment sections.
Don‘t worry, with Trump as president your country men will get 751 dollars and Putin will have 4 free years to stock up again on ammunition and infantry so it can go for its next targets for the sake of restoring old soviet glory. You don‘t understand that the borders of the free world as you know are at stake, you don‘t understand how Russia works. The FSB is the ruling power and is up to no good, they make any critics disappear, oligarchs are killed in mysterious ways in order for Putin and Co. to seize control over their assets so they can fund their tsarist endeavors. Instead of getting rid of that cancer right now, it will have now 4 more years to grow into an incurable one. It‘s basic logic when you take all dynamics and details together. If you want to debate this, feel free to do so, I‘d be glad to elaborate further. But I ask you to bring arguments against my whole statement instead of just cherry picking points you think you may have arguments against. Don‘t be like Trump who‘s constantly evading tricky questions/situations 😉
@@fredrikhansen2387 Don‘t worry, with Trump as president your country men will get 751 dollars and Putin will have 4 free years to stock up again on ammunition and infantry so it can go for its next targets for the sake of restoring old soviet glory. You don‘t understand that the borders of the free world as you know are at stake, you don‘t understand how Russia works. The FSB is the ruling power and is up to no good, they make any critics disappear, oligarchs are killed in mysterious ways in order for Putin and Co. to seize control over their assets so they can fund their tsarist endeavors. Instead of getting rid of that cancer right now, it will have now 4 more years to grow into an incurable one. It‘s basic logic when you take all dynamics and details together.
"Stupidity..." That's a completely pointless comment as you don't state what it is that makes you dislike NATO so much. Wait - you are probably just a Putin fangirl.
@@Herodotus__ It is so typical from ex-colonised countries to support Russian imperial was on Ukraine. Apparently jealousy to a country that resists aggressor is so strong from those who did not.
I think it's time for a mandatory conscription applied for NATO countries' youth, so that militaries have significant backups for any distress situation
NATO should consider cyber attacks as military attacks
So what kind of attack is the bombing of Nord Stream? Even if it was an attack by Russia, NATO would be helpless. Don't forget that the weapons NATO provided to Ukraine also killed many Russian soldiers. Does that count as NATO declaring war on Russia?
@@yunlan996 With that logic it means Iran, North Korea and China have attacked the Ukraine as well. Suppling weapons is not attacking someone. Perhaps if Russia stopped this senseless war of aggression this wouldn't be a problem.
I agree with both . Ukrainian people are bloody, proud men, and families are now broken apart it's horrible. All the children have been hurt , hospitals have been attacked, and not to mention the Russian army don't want this war either but the tiny little man needs some steps to stand on the stage . It will backfire at some point it did to Germany it will with russia. I wish everyone a merry Christmas
The strategy of cowards
Thats called 'brainwashing'
Not at all. Just the way Teck works and always has
Who attacked Nord stream
Russia
@@Dani-mw2ws😂😂😂 common sense unavailable....
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Westron fox @@Dani-mw2ws
Russian insurance job (wouldn't be the first)
german should learn from klaus von don!! he is 200% right yr country and others put there own countrys into trouble because stand with usa as he said usa will pull every countrys into trouble as long usa get what they!!!! want not for countrys
What?
@@SammyJones-i2v Klaus doesn‘t know how Russia works, he talks into germans fears instead of giving them courage.
Pretending being blind for russian crimes will not help Germans either.
We are failing against Dictator Inc. Stop responding and start acting. Use your criminals to think outside the box and innovate.
If NATO didn't involve themselves in matters that don't involve them this wouldn't be an issue.
"If NATO didn't..." If Russia didn't invade its neighbours there would be no need for NATO.
Stop blaming Nato for helping a victim. We owe Russia nothing.
@@Blanka1100 NATO expansionism created the problem, Russia is not our enemy.
@@Blanka1100 NATO created the "victim".
@@darthfader733 Ukraine is not even Nato member state and had no chance to join. Putin needs excuses, not a reason. He wants Ukraine. He could invade non Nato Ukraine oly.
Going to be harder since absolute stupidity in America reelected the absolute fool trump.
That's true, let's hope European leaders actually manage to get this shi7 together and act.
What happened to that Chinese ship that cut the communication cable in the Baltic Sea at the behest of Russia? Can someone answer me. Looks like I missed the sequel.🤔
it is hard being an American vassal state. a good and once-prosperous nation that is being driven to the ground to further American interests.
Silly nonsense from a Putin fanboy.
@@evaluateanalysis7974 The Germans are silly, Americans supervised the destruction of their Nord stream
@@nazistowskisnob543The muricans and russians are silly for always having to compare their sizes.
@@nazistowskisnob543"The Germans are silly." Cutting edge debate? LOL.
"Americans supervised the destruction of their Nord stream" And your evidence is?
«Немцы глупые». Передовая дискуссия? Лол
«Американцы руководили уничтожением их Северного потока» И ваши доказательства?
Nordstream is majority owned by Gazprom. And russia did nothing except cry and moan about it.
😂 we will ignore the rest of BRICS members
India, iran, etc.
NATO do you have any strategy for countering the Oreshnik 🚀
So what would a NATO responce be to a nuclear superpower, a strong worded email to Russia? One oreshkin strike and NATO cant counter with nothing.
Kremlin bot, first of all it‘s called oreshnik, not oreshkin. Second, you‘re delusional if you think NATO can‘t counter, Russia can‘t even prevent missiles that are already striking its own territory, has to beg North Korea for menpower and has exposed itself to be an useless ally to Al Assad‘s regime. Stay in your bubble, it‘ll burst quicker than you learning how to spell your weapons right.
It‘s called oreshnik and Russia would get annihilated in a NATO counter, Russia can‘t even prevent missiles fired by Ukraine into russian territory.
@@ProudSwiss You know Russia has Dead hand system for Mutual assured destruction.
Western icbms aren’t any slower upon reentry than their Russian counterparts. Russia can’t defend against these either.
US already has missle defense that can destroy over 2 thousand nukes that's most of a Russian king range missiles. Not to mention US giant manta ray ship sup that can destroy entire Chinese and a Russian fleets with its drones.
As lord Ismay, the first Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), said the purpose of the Alliance is to keep the Americans in Europe, the Russians out, and the Germans down! DW doing their part to keep Germany down!
That's what you have to expect when involve somebody business. Those 3 chihuahua Baltic countries need to lower their warmongering, unless...
Here's an idea... stop antagonizing the other 90% of the Human race.
would usa allow military equipment and solders from 32 states on its Mexico border?
Why should Russia allow that???
too late… too late eu.. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🛸
The first step is to disable the comment section
Negotiate and end the war.
Sorry, is NATO at war? And with whom?
it's always the less-than-one-month-old accounts with a general computer-generated name.
@@anatolepa1306 I know right... but "Nigel"... bit unlucky to get labelled with that one.
Would you have advised Russia to "negotiate" with Germany to end WWII?
@nigelgarrett7970 it is. Indirectly with Russia
NATO tries to justify the existence 😢
Lean on me 🇨🇦
Artistcan lean on me
EUROPE & NATO vs RUSSIA , who's got the edge ? The ol man in Moscow 😅
I got drunk once and blew my cover but I never told my KGB boss 🤫
hybrids are better for the economy 🤓
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NATO has also an appetite to increase their attacks on Russia 😮
A European version of the 5 eyes. Interpol as a model. And funding for investigations.
Interpol has been long compromised, not a great reference point.
She is correct about not wanting to deal with it differently from other attacks (in the long term [now that the attacks are the current norm we need to make them not an ongoing thing first before we can deal with them with deterrance in the future]). Real damage (which happens, just usually not costing lives [though when hospitals have to shut down there are probably excess civilian deaths]) eventually needs to be answered in a way making them as impossible as invading a Nato member is. Attributation might be the real problem long term, as you cannot retaliate if you are not sure who did it.
Are you for real? you want to send an airstrike over a severed cable?
@@urbansenicar81 what practical difference is there between the WW2 merchant fleet attacks and severing cables?
Por evry in the Word US has a hand in it😢
NATO should talk peace. That is so now NATO fights Russia. If they talk peace will be different!
Imagine sending all your money to one of the most corrupt country in the world. While you're country menn get 750 dollars after losing everything after a hurricane !! And left media don't report that!!
And your ability to spread false information is far superior than the left media. The entire $750 thingy is an absolute myth. And that has been proven over and over again. Stop drinking Kool aid and drink some coffee instead! And speaking of corruption, your going to love Trump's crony cabinet, they are going to do so much for us - most of it wrong!!
Old Vladdy-No-Shirt must be sniffing around the farm for new front line recruits... the under bridge dwellers are sounding more and more desperate in these comment sections.
"750 dollars after losing everything" That nonsense was debunked weeks ago.
Don‘t worry, with Trump as president your country men will get 751 dollars and Putin will have 4 free years to stock up again on ammunition and infantry so it can go for its next targets for the sake of restoring old soviet glory.
You don‘t understand that the borders of the free world as you know are at stake, you don‘t understand how Russia works. The FSB is the ruling power and is up to no good, they make any critics disappear, oligarchs are killed in mysterious ways in order for Putin and Co. to seize control over their assets so they can fund their tsarist endeavors.
Instead of getting rid of that cancer right now, it will have now 4 more years to grow into an incurable one. It‘s basic logic when you take all dynamics and details together.
If you want to debate this, feel free to do so, I‘d be glad to elaborate further. But I ask you to bring arguments against my whole statement instead of just cherry picking points you think you may have arguments against. Don‘t be like Trump who‘s constantly evading tricky questions/situations 😉
@@fredrikhansen2387 Don‘t worry, with Trump as president your country men will get 751 dollars and Putin will have 4 free years to stock up again on ammunition and infantry so it can go for its next targets for the sake of restoring old soviet glory.
You don‘t understand that the borders of the free world as you know are at stake, you don‘t understand how Russia works. The FSB is the ruling power and is up to no good, they make any critics disappear, oligarchs are killed in mysterious ways in order for Putin and Co. to seize control over their assets so they can fund their tsarist endeavors.
Instead of getting rid of that cancer right now, it will have now 4 more years to grow into an incurable one. It‘s basic logic when you take all dynamics and details together.
Only way to stop these attacks is to simply consider them an act of war, and not just give a slap on the wrist in the name of plausible deniability.
NATO sux 🦆
You don't poke and provoke Russia in Ukraine you will be fine
Stupidity knows no bounds in NATO!😂
Stupidity is another term for the Kremlin circus that poor Russians have to endure 😂😂
"Stupidity..." That's a completely pointless comment as you don't state what it is that makes you dislike NATO so much. Wait - you are probably just a Putin fangirl.
NATO is a joke!!😂
Crybaby 😂😂🤣🤣
Let’s wait and see who will laugh the last.
@@ninaotan7811 Russia will laugh last or there will be no laughter at all
@@ninaotan7811 Certainly not Ukraine/NATO.😄😄
@@Herodotus__ It is so typical from ex-colonised countries to support Russian imperial was on Ukraine. Apparently jealousy to a country that resists aggressor is so strong from those who did not.
A VERY PRIVATE DOUBLE LIFE BOOK PRIME MINISTER MCKENZIE KING MAKE GENTLE THE WAY OF THE WORLD BOOK ABOUT ROBERT KENNEDY IM FREE SONG
I think it's time for a mandatory conscription applied for NATO countries' youth, so that militaries have significant backups for any distress situation
Would you go to war for a politician?
Ure situatiin is europe is more dramatic than syriaa m,and persistent 2
Yeaaai the bodybuilder of nato with graay pubity is comparable,,,2 shoes of our man
Noo the gymnasts of ASEAN without mossy banana are bluuue naughty is different,,, 4 hats of your woman.
Lol what are you saying
I see the Kremlin bots start to malfunction 😂
Russian bota shitting themselves