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Is Epsom Salt Beneficial for Organic Gardening?
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Can Epsom salt fix Magnesium deficiencies?
Can you Fight Diseases by the Foliar Application of Epsom Salt?
Does Epsom Salt help Increase Nutrient Absorption and Yields of garden Plants?
Will it help me Grow Tastier Tomatoes and Sweeter Fruit?
Dr. Linda Chalker-Scotts paper on Epsom Salt
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If your into Organic Gardening and a part of one of the many online communities you have no doubt come across claims surrounding the use of Epsom salt in the garden.
As you know I have been putting garden practices and claims to the test to see which ones are supported by science and which ones are not.
For example the science behind the use of coffee grounds in the garden is supported whereas the use of cold coffee to fertilize and lower the pH around your blueberries is not.
Today we are going to see if Epsum salt really good for your garden?
Epsom salt is made of magnesium sulfate (MgSO4) when dissolved in water it releases Magnesium and Sulphur.
Magnesium and Sulphur are both essential elements for plant growth and production. Magnesium playing a key role in chlorophyll and sulphur plays a key role in amino acids. [2][3]
It would seem logical that more Magnesium and Sulphur in the soil would help your plants and support these claims right?
Lets talk about a few of these claims and for the purpose of discussion focus on Magnesium.
Magnesium Deficiencies
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Stephen you were one of my favorite youtuber You need to get back into making videos Your work is very helpful to the garden community
The answer is: It can be beneficial... There are other options stated in the video but they really do work and help. My plants are always happy to get some Epsom. Your main concern is making sure the plants get what they need and Epsom gives them what they need, regardless if they are Deficient or not. Sprinkle some and water.. You will see your plants smile. 👍🏼
Is Epsom Salt Beneficial For Organic Gardening? Lets take a look at the science behind it to see if the claims are true.
Can Epsom salt fixed Magnesium deficiencies?
Can you Fight Diseases by the Foliar Application of Epsom Salt?
Does Epsom Salt help Increase Nutrient Absorption and Yields of garden Plants?
Will it help me Grow Tastier Tomatoes and Sweeter Fruit?
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Every time you guys come up with results of things that aren't required in garden( I know this applies to gardening in the ground), I get anxious as to whether I will ever be able to have a successful container garden with the limited organic fertilizer resources I have at hand in my balcony setting.
A lot of rooftop gardeners have tremendous success here in India with our local resources and full sun. My garden is an extension of my home space, so I can't use many things that other gardeners use and I do love to use epsom salt, sea weed foliar spray and organic amendments like neem, castor cake and Indian beech hoping I may have a better harvest but it's been partial success.
By the way it was great to see you in your backyard without the white grass!!! Have a wonderful growing season ahead.
My friend containers are a different beast all together and they are much more prone to deficiencies. All I am trying to do is show the evidence as I see it with respects to raised bed gardening. Change one factor and the story is different !
Are there any specific problems you are having ?
Take what I say and apply what you like ! I'm not preaching my way or the highway here. I hope just to help people cut through the noise !
Yes I do try and implement things from what you guys say in my container garden, but it has been really tough, I put in a lot of effort in doing everything possible to make it succeed( and its tougher to do all of this indoors in an apartment , composting , vermicomposting, storing all of it ) but I guess I need more time to understand what works and what doesn't .Bottom line for me is things don't thrive as they should, takes a really long time for plants to grow. I plan to talk on my experience regarding this in my concluding garden tour of my growing season Aug14- April 2015.
Ofcourse I know you aren't preaching and if one can grow organic with little or no expense that would be an ideal situation!
Make sure to tag me in your post I'll do my best to help where I can !
Since you mentioned raised beds, Id like to ask - are the nutrients in the ground still available to the plants in the raised bed through the weed block? Some folks even use plastic sheets as weed blocks and then the roots cant use nutrients from the ground, so then how is a raised bed different from a container ? I see it as a large square container with more surface area and lesser depth.
Please treat this query like its from a total newcomer :)
Okay - this is the channel I've been looking for - like the scientific approach - I think I will learn a lot !
your video just inspired me to write this:
"Welcome to the rusted garden, dancing in the sunshine.
if we're to change it one yard at a time, we've got work to do.
So, welcome to this garden of knowledge, and keep on growing y'all
and i hope your having fun and I've enjoyed spending time with you.
Jack Straw S/O to Gary P(rusted garden)....ray from, praxxus55712, one yard revolution, john kohler, & Alberta urban garden.
That's a neat way to put the things we often say together !
Fantastic information Stephen! When you think about gardening and growing small scale food many years ago there wasn't any need for fertilisers and other brought ammendments. There still isn't a need when organic matter which is always in abundance will do the job! Great information on Epsom salt thank you
I completely agree for unground and raised bed gardening. there are places for containers and hydroponics that allow people to grow in other situations however at home I chose to enjoy the free and local resources!
It is just so ingrained in us that we need to add chemicals to the soil for our plants. Bad habit we all need to break. It truly does come down to SOIL TEST before adding anything. No more overdosing my soil. Keep spreading the word with your great videos!
The more work i do Sher the more I realize the same thing! Its about balance. thanks by the way for the conversations on Garden Professors. I was working out the last of this script through that conversation!
Did you figure out if your phosphorus level was too high?
Probably a touch high but I have work to do:)
Sher Thom some of us ha e become so good at recognizing plant symptoms that the plant itself is the soil test.
I love your sound logic! I personally have experienced no difference in my garden's performance with compost tea or magnesium but have found I need to be more vigilant at growing my soil's health with less tillage, plenty of mulch and more cover cropping.
We grew our garden using epsom salts (just spread on the soil around the base of the plants) and banana peels buried between plants. Our garden went nuts. We only had one cucumber plant but there were so many that we were giving them away And the cucumbers were gigantic. And so tasty. We had tomatoes, celery, basil, parsley, peppermint, spearmint, kolrabi and marigolds that all went nuts. Our green and red peppers and our onions did not do so well,,,they stayed tiny but edible. Here it is Octobe
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Great explanation on the use of MgS04. Sometimes it's just hard for gardeners to give up something that they have been using since they started gardening. Thanks for researching and giving us your findings, great video Stephan.
***** Epsom salt has its place in agriculture but for the most part your compost is doing the hard work for you ;)
I don't feel like you directly answered the question in your title, "Is Epsom Salt Beneficial for Organic Gardening?" You talked about some useful stuff, but skirted around actually answering.
wow look at those numbers for the bio-char soil. very impressive. the little work i have done with biochar looks good as well. i like to add it to tree holes when i plant a new tree.
I use Epsom Salt to aid in blooming which obviously increases my yield. Once my tomato plants start producing they continue throughout the fall. I always have fresh tomatoes in abundance on Thanksgiving and, depending on the temperatures, into December. I attribute this to my application of Epsom Salt every six weeks, once the plants are mature.
thanks so much guy I appreciate your comments I am from Trinidad / Tobago an love gardening hope some day I can visit your garden guy
+dev bach Wow I had no idea I had a friend in Trinidad and Tobago! I think I would rather visit you down there right about it! its quite cold and nothing is growing anymore!
Great Job on the video Stephen, the information is very helpful to the gardening community.
I am glad you enjoyed it Wess!!
Everyone should test their soil in order get an idea where they stand so they don't have to spend unnecessarily on amendments when growing their food. Thanks for the information. We all need to keep doing it better.
I am starting to believe it's a good idea to test your soil so you know what's going on!
Thank you, that is reassuring. I was also surprised to see so many leaves on your soil. I always understood that you make leaf mould over a couple of years by layering soil and leaves and making a "soil" to mulch or dig in- crumbling leaves would be so much easier if that does the job.
+Tony Ford it does the job wonderfully well! I put 3-5 inches on every bed in the fall and by spring most of it is gone and the worms do the rest during the growing season!
I have used Epsom Salts when my tomato plants aren't a rich green or show some yellowing and they always bounce back. My determination, without a soil test, is a deficiency. Anecotal, but proof enough for me.
Your results may vary. ;)
Jim S You are right unless you have soil tests its hard to say.
What I hope to promote collecting your own results so you can decide yourself.
i have had a garden on and off since 78(mostly off) i had a very good reason for a sudden interest in a garden(mom is 87, loves tomatoes from the garden) this is the first time with additives, i always had fair results with just dirt...... but 2 weeks ago i knew we were getting a storm(im in CA, we dont get rain after april)so i put some 5 ft stakes in the ground and plastic tarp with a lot of bricks around the bottom, it stayed on a week... because the weather report said rain on and off, it stayed on for a full week, from wed to wed, 10 days ago, when i took the tarp off i almost lost my breath(i could see a little, that the leaves were branching out)they are 2 feet tall then, i had just given them Epsom salt and worm castings before i put the plastic on them... still not getting a lot of sun but they have not grown at all in 10 days and i have not given them any add ons at all, so my conclusion is Epsom salt and worm castings is the way to go, but dont over do the salt....
I use a "knifepoint" added to a 12ltr bucket (2.6 Gal) when opening new ground for gardening before I can incorporate organic matter / mulching systems ...100% agree that it offers no benefit when locked out or already in decent concentration ... I believe many of the "disease" alleviation claims are simply IF plants are stressed due to deficiency application is a quick fix..... Strong plants don't get sick ... a 1 off application is far cheaper than running a soil test
I think your right. if your plant is stressed its more likely to show damage.
I really like your channel. Showing information based on actual science and controlled tests (vs wives tales an gimmicky trash) is so helpful. Thank you.
Wow, amazing informative video! Thanks!
I've been following this practice I see some gardeners do, by placing a couple tablespoons of Epsom Salts in the hole when setting a young tomato plant in the ground. Good results, so far.
Nice video! I tend to add a very modest amount of epsom salts to my soil mix outdoors. I understand that it's probably not necessary. My current house had in ground garden beds of unknown origin and they were terrible the 1st growing season. I amended with Epsom Salt and they did much better. This is was many years ago before I learned about compost being the way to go. Maybe coincidence but maybe not. There's too many other factors to be certain, but I add I little bit to my soil mix just in case.
You know what might help now is a soil test or at least a side by side comparison. do a little area with out treatment and one with. Plant the same veggies in each and see how they do over the season.
I am not trying to state this is the only way to do things rather bring you the evidence and let you decide ;) you know I am a minimalist gardener when I can be anyways!
Last summer we had so much rain everything turned yellow and started dying I treated my whole garden and all my fruit trees with fungicide every week and a small dose of epsom salt every other week. When the rain finally let up at the end of July everything began to thrive although I had a late summer harvest it was better then nothing. A lot of people I talked to they just gave up and let their gardens die off because they thought it was hopeless. Last year I treated all my trees with epsom salt until winter set in it is now March and my fruit trees already have at least 80 fruit buds on them I can't believe how much they have already started blooming I will have to pluck 3/4 of them off but I am expecting a good harvest this year.
After watching a video from another youtuber I tried Epsom Salt last year. I threw the epsom salt into a hole and it hit a worm. The poor worm writhed in pain (and probably died). Given yourinfo, my own experience, and since it is unlikely I have a deficiency as I add lots of OM to my soil, I am not going to do this again. Thanks. You are AWESOME.
I am glad you enjoyed the video. I think the practice can cause harm like in your garden and if nothing else a practice that has limited to no benefit.
Great info and scientific. I'm going with leaf mulch and compost with no animal products. So much stuff they want us to buy.
+Potato Strong Really at the end of the day it would seem patients and compost are equal to the task! that said more research is required!
Great information on the use of Epsom salts in the garden, Stephen! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the support and assistance on this one! The evidence did lead us to an interesting result!
Wow you guys are doing great work. Thanks for your dedication to quality posts.
Thank you Kyle Parks I am very glad your enjoying the work!
youtube is crying out for more scientific and practical gardening information ... thanks
justgivemethetruth I hope I can help you out my friend! I usually post one true science video a month!
Thank you so much. I appreciate the science behind this study. I often watch market place to find results similar to this on different subjects. I have subscribed and look forward to future videos.
I am glad you enjoy the videos I produce. I too enjoy market place :)
Been using Epsom Salt my tomatoes for over 30 years from 260 plants to 120 plants -- 120 plants this year. 60 Better Boys 30 Early Girls and 30 Rudgers, all doing great planted Good Friday every year
I am glad you have had many years of success !!
amen! no Epsom Salt ever and never a magnesium deficiency on my soil test. Please, if you can do a video on lime, in particularly the application without a soil test and why it's not usfull at planting time. A good composting program take care of most issues!
+Robert L. Fallin that is a great idea ! I will put it on my list for sure.
Thank you.
0:45. Well actually, when you dissolve magnesium sulfate, you get the Mg(2+) ion and sulfate (SO4(2-) ion). I assume that in gardening, you guys call it sulfur, instead of sulfate.
Awesome information. Even though its not expensive, its nice to be able to cut costs when and where its possible.
Thats my thought process as well Rob!
I really like the thorough explanation in what appears to be a myth buster episode.
Thank You for a very educational video on the use (or not the use) of epsom salts in the organic garden. Just wanted to let you know that i clicked on the link for Dr Linda Chalker-Scott's paper on Epsom Salt and got an error 404 not found.
Jessy H Thank you Jessy. I will fix the link right away. I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Please come back. You are loved here.
Love your videos. Thank you for the clean clinical approach to hype of other channels. Keep up the good work.
+steelcyclist it is my pleasure! Glad I can help!
I'm sticking with epsom salts!
Not true that epsom salts do little to help unless your soil has a clear magnesium deficiency.
For 25 years I added a couple tablespoons to the bottom of the hole when transplanting tomato and pepper plants - in three different living locations so it's not something related to my specific soil. Last year I didn't have any epsom salts on hand and planted without it. This was the FIRST year that I not only didn't get my usual bumper crops, but my tomatoes and peepers all developed brown and curling leaves - and ultimately they got end rot which was irreversible. I lost both crops - harvesting about 3 tomatoes and peppers each for the year.
I realize end rot is usually associated with calcium deficiency, but perhaps, just like in humans, magnesium is synergistic with calcium. There's probably a lot we don't know when it comes to synergies in plant growth.
My tomatoes also tasted far better with the Epsom salts.
Great video. So I probably don't *need* Epsom Salts, but what if I don't want to test my soils. Will it hurt to continue using this product? Will there be any negative effects from adding it to the plantings even if it isn't needed?
In areas like Texas salt build up can become an issue that can cause damage to soils and impede plants abilities to absorb water especially in the hot dry part of the year. So yup there is some risk .
I am glad you enjoyed the video my friend !
Good explanation. I think its all about balance If growing in pots I think it would help or if you have poor soil to start with for the magnesium.
I think your right pots are more prone to deficiencies and if you do have one then yes Epsom salt is good ! If your in soil gardening or raised beds its probably a good bet the nutrient cycle has your back!
This makes perfect sense. Dogs eat and grow but feeding a dog 24 hours / day does not produce a giant animal. There are limits to all organisms. I (and many others) have said it a zillion times - good soil = good crops. Adding compost and mulch will do more than all the Epsom salts in the world.
smb123211 I believe you just summarized the entire video in a paragraph ;) I just hope to help people save time and money while getting good results for the right reasons!
***** I see folks at Home Depot buying $15 dirt bags and wonder what is wrong. At Loews recently, I passed a seminar where the speaker encouraged questionable (and expensive) steps - no GMO (I asked if he ate seedless watermelons. corn or rice lol), get expensive drip equipment, special mulch. soil, additives, feeder, etc
The main plant I have noticed a large difference when using epsom salts in our garden is any citrus plant. Yes our soil was poor but have been fixing it over the years, still with all this fixing I see after appling epsom salts to all my cirtus trees and a week after that I see a large bloom of new leaves. it is incredible to see the difference in a week.
I do wonder if those leaves are just sitting waiting for their boost in magnesium and the second they do, boom new growth.
I do use dolomite but do not see this burst of new growth like epsom salts, i do know epsom salts dillutes fast compared to dolomite.
Always informative and helpful my friend! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you my friend !
All of my plants respond quite well to Epsom salts added to the soil through watering. They produce wonderfully healthy leaves and fruit and seem stronger than the were. I have used this successfully for three years now, with consistent results.
Tc Anderson you know what might be interesting to do is leave one plant with out and compare to one that you have treated. I would love to see the results of that!
Interesting analysis on the benefits of Epsom salt. Thanks for sharing!
OhHowHappyGardener I am glad you enjoyed it my friend!
Great video thank you, although i would wonder if the same applies to Australian soils, it seems the only way i can grow a decent crop of tomatoes, beets, corn, and in particular green leafy vegetables is by adding quite a lot of Epsom Salts, havn't carried out soil testing as yet, more to come, keep up the very informative videos, they are a great help.. Queensland, Gods Country, Australia
Thanks for the info. I think that if I were to get my soil tested, it would be because I'm curious about the PH. That seems like the most important thing; if your PH is off, many nutrients won't be available to the plants.
If you don't have plant stresses there is limited Benefit to testing :)
That makes sense. My test is "do my plants grow" lol
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Happy 420 Steve. I've been growing Cannabis since the mid 70's. It wasn't till about 5 years ago that I hung up my exterior tools and parted ways with soil. Now I grow indoors with Coco Coir and Perlite. With Coco i use Cal Mag with every feeding due to Cocos inability to retain some nutrients. With Coco you have Flush days. And this is where in my question lies. My feeding goes like this. Feed. Feed. Flush .Feed. Feed. Flush. For my Flush I use 30 ml of Epsom salt per 5 gallons of RO water and 30mls of Lemon Lime Gatorade. Only Lemon Lime Gatorade per the same 5 gallons of RO water. Not RED or Blue and for sure no Powerade. The stuff works and works well. But i can not get an answer out of anyone i know as to why the Gatorade. They just do it. And the plants Love it.
Good for soaking your feet in though..
Used it on the tomatoes one year & really didn't notice any benefits at all..
RobBobs Backyard Farming it is really useful for soaking feet or any other part of your body you have hurt ;)
I have to agree. I used it a few times and just was not convinced. Well now the science tells me the same thing ;)
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I asked the same question with magnesium for the severe lack of calcium also! And I feel the same about it ! ***** made a wonderful video with research to prove their was no real benefits!
Thanks
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Empirical evidence is awesome thanks for the cideo
I agree with your take on the benefits of Epsom salt in a regular garden but what about the plants that are grown in containers? IMO the soil will be depleted of magnesium quite fast and its my opinion a foliar or direct application would be helpful... Your thoughts on this?
I have some thoughts on container gardening and will be putting it in Fridays video ;)
Your channel is like the Myth Busters of the garden community. It's awesome. Wow, I'm surprised though. Over the years, I've heard many folks swear by Epsom salt. Mama Nature doesn't use Epson salt, so neither do I. :)
I have had a lot of fun doing this series. Lovingly known as the Myth Busters :) some have held up some have not!
Your right I always find it amazing how quickly I want to complicate things and have to step back and look at what Mother Nature is doing and remind myself she is as lazy as possible :) Extra effort does not always mean extra reward!
Thanks for the information, i had always wondered about things like this and you put my mind to rest about using compost and other natural resources. A great series !
+rain coast I am really glad I could help. There is so much information out there on the online community and some times it circulates again and again and no one asks why.... well I feel compelled to ;)
+Alberta Urban Garden Simple Organic and Sustainable So true, that's how old wives tales come about, we just heard something or it's something we have always done. Sometimes it's good to just get down to plain old objective science.
Thanks.
That is why I do this work! Some are correct while others are not !
It would be extremely interesting to see a side by side comparison of miracle-gro vs organic. I'm sure you'd win a lot of people over, if the organic competition showed greater yield, and/or higher nutrition. -Eric
+mygreenzebra that would be an interesting trial! I wonder if it has been done in the past!
I'm not sure that it's been done to the extent that you take your trials to, with the same rigor, and objectivity.
I would have to dedicate some resources to it. I will put it on the list but likely with all of the other experiments i have going will need to push it to 2017. Thank you for the great suggestion!
I seen a lady do it and the organize stuff looked way puny compared to miracle grow how harmful can using miracle grow be every once in awhile?
In a ridiculously narrow test, when I installed some new raised beds a couple of years ago, I started the beds with two different mixes. Both mixes were about 1/3 sphagnum peat moss (dry bagged stuff) and 1/3 vermiculite. One mix was rounded out with Kellogg Raised Bed and Potting Mix; the other was rounded out with Miracle-Gro All Purpose Garden Soil. The difference was astounding: the plants in the all-organic beds grew well enough, but looked positively anemic compared to the ones in the Miracle-Gro mix. Two years and multiple additions of homemade compost later (to all beds), and the difference is *still* remarkable. I'm guessing the paucity of good, plain *dirt* in the organic beds has something to do with it (and probably an inferior mix in the Kellogg bags to begin with), but, as much as I would like to stick to all organic methods, I must confess that I still grab a couple of bags of Miracle-Gro each spring to fill in where I come up short on homemade compost. I know, I know... there are other ways to get there organically, but the Miracle-Gro is so reliable and easy, I still reach for that crutch now and then. Through more effort at mulching and composting, I'm getting there. Besides the raised beds, I have what once was a poorly drained garden plot with extremely heavy clay -- and now is vastly improved. It really takes time to do it all naturally. Until the soil can be improved naturally, I don't see the harm in straying from organic techniques if that's what it takes to grow superior vegetables to the store-bought ones, which are mostly non-organic, anyway. (We ate our first home-grown organic Big Beef tomatoes over the past few days. They certainly weren't very big -- maybe 2½" in diameter -- but man, were they _tasty_! (It was an impulse buy at a local nursery. I very rarely grow hybrids.)
I have found that my vegetable plants grow better, faster, and a healthier green color by using Epsom salts. This may be because we have a red clay soil here in South Carolina.
I bet if you got some good compost I there a few times you would see the same !
Great info Steve re: comparison to natural amendments
I've never understood why the "no chemicals" community is incredibly against typical salt based fertilizers, but Epsom salt has somehow made it through the cracks. At it's base, Epsom salt is a highly soluble salt fertilizer, which damages the soil just as much (relative to the amount added) as any other salt fertilizer. I think the difference here is that typically you don't add as much, but the concept is the same.
So generally the only place I use it is with peppers. Because we grow peppers so far outside of their comfort zone, they are Mg hogs to establish themselves in this area. I grow them in pots (mostly so they can be put in the best area) but this also lets me control their inputs whereas other neighbors may not need as much Epsom salt.
It was interesting to me that in the organic world so many people have advocated for its use. Salts in the soil always cause issues.
as for you peppers the containers are likely a place where you might fight deficiencies and it could help.
@AlbertaUrbanGarden are you sure about that. All amounts of salt "always" cause issues? What evidence do you have to support that
I use it specifically for blossom drop in my peppers and tomatoes. It works great. This could just be my soil no clue but i do not apply it to everything wholesale just my tomatoes and peppers. Interestingly.. Last year when i used the deep mulch method on my tomatoes and peppers i had no blossom drop. My two cents.
You may have had a deficient state prior to using mulch. once the mulch was there you had a source of nutrients that could replace the product and save you some pennies!
I've heard that taking an Epsom salt bath is suppose to help remove toxins from your body...
Great information, thanks for the video!
I don't think it really takes toxins our however it does encourage balanced performance the cells in your dermis and blood system. basically helps you reset the osmotic pressures :)
I have blackberry plants grow throughout my yard. one of them is right underneath a pellet stove exhaust pipe plenty of ashes are dumped on this plant all winter this plant is out growing all of my other blackberry plants I'm beginning to think that the wood ash are affecting the growth of this plant it is so far ahead of the another blackberry plants they were planted at the same time using the same method.
Thank you for another great informative video. I did soil tests for my field bed, but did not do soil tests for my container plants. Do you think container plants could benefit from epsom salts since much of the nutrients would be washed away during watering over time more so than my field bed?
This is an amazing video packed densely with scientific information, thank you!
Melvin Wei I am glad you enjoyed the video! I wanted to properly discuss the issue but not spend 30 minutes doing it :)
all any Gardener needs is good compost, made from a variety of sources and/or woodchips from a variety of sources. Nature ain't stupid. Remember that. you don't need to micromanage. even for composting, it can be as simple as piling anything and everything into a pile, in any order and nature will break it down. Fiddling with it only changes the timeline, but most sane Gardeners operate on yearly time cycles and aren't obsessed with making compost in 18 days or less or whatever wacky claim some peddler of information is making.
My soil tested short on the stick with magnesium; clay, gumbo, modified with wood chip compost. Do not use much but add more calcium as it is needed also. Test the soil; it will tell you a lot.
I could not agree more. test your soil find out whats going on and work from there.
Thank you for taking the time to inform us..... everyone says different things about Epsom salts..... but it's mostly anecdotal
You stated that magnesium absorption time would be too slow for the plant to be poured into the ground? I had 2 pepper plants that I thought were nearly completely dead but I watered them anyway. I actually watched them soak up the water and come back to life in real time.
The same thing happened to my bush beans when I forget to water them a day late after transplanting them.
1Nature Lady Water absorption into roots is a different much quicker process then any nutrient absorption.
that would be neat to see the plants "wake up"
***** It was really cool to see them wake up so fast. :) I felt so terrible that I allowed them to dry out like that. I always have a hard time with my pepper plants.
The peppers are either misshaped or maybe I am picking them too fast. I am learning and I really like your channel. :)
I am really glad I can help you out! If you like peppers make sure to check out the playlist I have on my main page about pruning and management ;)
***** Oh yeah. That will be my next video. I can't wait to watch them all.
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Well I know that my peppers leaves were yellowing and wilting and there wasn't much leaf production. After watering with a couple of applications of Epsom Salt they started not only producing deep green leaves but more of them, so for me I have to say I do see a benefit.
thelmarrie You know what might help moving forward is using more compost to help build your soil and avoid the issue in the future!
I am glad your gardening and things are looking up my friend!
Thank you very much! I have been composting with kitchen scraps as well as leaves, coffee grounds and paper. I will increase my efforts!
I am glad my friend! Keep up the efforts !!
Correction: you definitely can overdo nutrients using compost and manures. Especially in small home gardens.
JonFrumTheFirst I agree. It is less likely than using synthetic products however it can be done. in fact imposed nutrient deficiencies I believe could cause some of the issues home gardeners face!
Good information Stephen. I really should get my soil tested. ;)
Id only recommend that if your having trouble ;) If things are working then keep up the good work!
GOOD INFORMATION, THANKS A LOT.
I am glad you liked it !
A word of caution: if using MgSO4 or dolomite lime without a soil test and analysis to first determine the Ca:Mg saturation in the soil. When Mg is in excess, flocculation is defeated and the soil will compact into clods frustrating your efforts to work up a fine seedbed in spring and reducing the soil's air supply, starving the roots of Oxygen.
See Steve Solomon's The Intelligent Gardener page 129.
Thats a great point and I look forward to reading that book! Thank you very much for bringing it up I had not heard of it before!
***** Available at Amazon.com US$15.40 with Prime. Hi explains, in detail, soil testing and all about growing a nutrient dense crop in your garden.
Very informative. I find (as you mentioned) nutrient lock-out from over using amendments tends to be the biggest cause of magnesium deficiencies. In this instance, it wouldn't matter how much Epsom salt you added, excess of other nutrients would prevent the plant from absorbing the magnesium. Less is always more with organic gardening. Also, I only add magnesium when I am prepping an area for the very first time and for certain plants in the flower stage whether they're showing a mag deficiency or not (light foliar feeding of 2 tbsp/gallon solution). In my opinion, Epsom salt is beneficial however, only when it can be used effectively.
Your absolutely right. Unless you know the issue it's generally not going to be useful.
I am very glad you enjoyed it my friend !
i have a cold brewed coffee business and i used the coffee grounds in my garden. i find cold coffee grounds works better for my garden.
i also use MSM powder
Thank you for debunking this for us
I'm glad you enjoy it Anna ! I have a lot of fun making these videos ! How is spring out east ?
Its tip toeing into spring this Wednesday I don't care if its snowing or raining I'm cleaning out my garden beds lol
Lol I often work in the snow this time of year
Another great video, Stephen!
Thanks man!
Thanks. Very useful video.
I have had Athletes foot for about 20 years until recently, then I started a 2 to 3 times a week foot bath in Epsom salts and the problem has gone.
However, this left me a problem of disposal of the grotty water. So I have been pouring it on my plants that looks below par.
There is no science to support my view that they look better, (my Cacti look magnificent) but my feet are definitely better.
Looking for more of your vids.
Great video like always. Love your channel because it gives lots of information but I don't know why it unsuscribe it self. I think that is UA-cam since they are adding new things here on UA-cam.
+nery colon 1 I am glad your back my friend!
Very interesting! thank you!
+Cosas del Jardin my pleasure thank you for commenting!
Very interesting Stephen! Another myth busted.... I must admit that I used epsom salt on my garden too. Soil test time. Thanks for sharing.
Your probably one of the only eco zones that the heavy rain and soil type might in fact cause a natural deficiency. test your soil and see what it has to tell you!
Huw. Your presentations are always practical, as you actually walk your talk. Very easy learning, for me anyway. Thank you.
Good video. I've never tested my soil, always use as much compost and fertilizers that I can get my hands on, and always have a really good crops. But I would not hesitate on using Epsom Salt, it is so cheap ($1 or $2 for 4-6kg at a dollar store) and easy to apply and its hard to over do it unlike other fertilizer, so use it with you're hearts content. Did I mention that its the cheapest Nutrient/Mineral that you can buy? Thanks for the Education thou, keep it up!
even though the money is not a lot for the most part your compost will have more than enough time and you can save enough for a coffee and enough time to enjoy the coffee in the garden!
Wow. Another myth bites the dust. Thanks for the information, my friend.
My pleasure :) I am glad you enjoyed the video.
+Alberta Urban Garden Simple Organic and Sustainable
I am not certain that you tested weather or not Epson salt is good for plants that have a deficiency. Your soil is obviously not showing any signs of deficiency, but, showing plants that are deficient and then applying epson salt would seem to be a more practical test to determine if epson salt is effective at increasing the bioavalibilty of magnesium and correcting the deficiency. You simply showed that your soil did not need it.
Later in the video I do mention if you know there is a deficiency caused by low levels of magnesium this is a short term measure you can use however it is not a long term solution I would use.
Soil tests are the only way to know if that is the case or if you have an imposed deficiency caused by high phosphorus or potassium causing the deficient state. This is called and imposed deficiency and can not be solved by adding more magnesium.
Great info having problems with my tomatoes yellowing thanks for these useful videos.
Glad I could help and I hope our tomatoes recover quickly
Sorry but I didn't understand, so what was the conclusion. Is it beneficial or not ?
like all his videos the answer is: if there's a deficiency use it, if not then don't
@@lolshatter 😁😁😁 Thanks
Just watched another one of your videos and answered my own question. Wish I could find comfrey leaves.
+Elissa S Most people grow their own after purchasing roots from an online source. I recommend looking for a bocking 14 that is sterile.
You are the only person I saw on youtube that is against Epsom Salt.
How do I get rid of powdery mildew on my plants my friend name some methods I'll shout you out on my Livestream! Thank you in advance man love yur show!
Great video. I use epsom salt in my garden if it appears the young plants are not appearing to grow as quickly as I think they should. I simply put the epsom salt in my hand and cast it around the plants. Rapid growth always follows and production is heavy. My garden is rabbit manure compost and I'm here in Texas.
Did you ever try applying epsom salts to some of the plants and not to others?
I did not use it last year.This year I did so far big difference.
I am not sure if you got to the end of the video but a good compost is much more sustainable and long lasting.
You have said, our home garden soils are usually not deficient in magnesium. Humans are most deficient in iodine and magnesium. What are your thoughts on "Do these two have anything to do with the use of Epsom salt in our foods growing soil"? Also, can atmosphere, altitude, plant stress have anything to do with the affectiveness of Epsom salt usage? I would think the deficiencies depends on the original souls used in raised beds, and how that soil is upkept as well as the demand on the soil of those plants in those beds. How can we attribute the obvious quality of results from Epsom salt home trials, to the actual usage of Epsom salt itself. There can be so many variables in these experiments, yet home Gardner's are finding good results when using Epsom salt. Thank you for the info.
The two issues are fairly separate but much like dietary iodine you just need to make sure your compost has magnesium and sulfur. Luckily most food scraps have plenty.
Thanks for the video.
I was wondering what you thought about blood, fish and bone meal? I'm new to gardening and bought a 10kg tub of it last year. I'm only using a tiny amount of it in coconut coir for planting seeds in my greenhouse. At the rate I'm using it I've bought a life time's supply of it! I'm a little concerned about using it for any other purpose now.
It's fine to use. Unlike epsom salt it takes time to break down and release the nutrients. Most commonly it is used when planting perennials you mix in a hand full or two with the soil below the plant and it will slowly release over time.
I don't use it anymore but it you have it there is no use in letting it go to waste. Epsom salt on the other hand is better for baths :)
I made the mistake of possibly putting to much bone meal on my cucumbers I think. We have also had a tremendous amount of rain here and could also be stressing the cucumbers. Leaves are yellow and leaves are dying off. I was told to put epson salt on the soil to quickly correct problem. This is my first year of gardening so I am a bit lost. I have them planted in a raised bed garden. Any help is appreciated.
How about disolving aspirin into a gallon of water, and applying that aspirin water to your tomato plant, when they are first planted, to protect against disease?
I will take a look my friend.
***** Thank you, and looking forward to the results and Science behind it!
Stephen I was hoping you would do an anaerobic compost tea analysis's Come on it's time to make some more garden videos
In this video you were adding mulch and coffee grounds to your beds to add nutrients to the soil. I assume you did this when it was close to winter time so that the material could break down during the winter and be ready during the spring. Is that correct? Also did you just leave the leaves and coffee grounds on top of the soil to break down or did you mix it into the soil? If you did leave it on the surface I would be worried about the wind blowing away your leaves.
I add mulch all year long to my garden beds and keep it on all year. I don't mix it in the soil as I find the worms eat it fast enough I don't need to worry.
Yes I do have some leaf blowing but usually just in the spring :)
So is that method of adding mulch and coffee grounds and allowing the worms to break it down, thus releasing the nutrients via their castings, is that your way of enriching the beds? Do you find a need to add other amendments beyond that? Also is wood chip mulch that you use or is it leaf mulch?
Yes that's the method and I use wood chip and leaf mulch the hat ever I can get my hands on really.
I rotate in nitrogen fixing cover crops once every 2-3 years as well. Outside of that I don't do anything ! Completely product free.
i grow some tomatoes an sweet potatoes an hot peppers also in my garden guy
What about magnesium in hydroponics. General Hydroponics Maxi Grow and Maxi Bloom feeding guide recommends adding CalMag+ to the nutrient solution. Is that overkill?
Hydroponics is a completely different game as your growing in an inert medium and having to supply everything the plant needs to survive. So right of the bat you have a deficiency of all nutrients.
it would be then a question of knowing exactly how much you need over time so when you discard the water there is little to nothing in there.
Have you ever thought about doing a test on the Back to Eden garden method using woodchips
I have thought about it but the method is very similar to the methods I use and would have similar results. I also lack the space to do it myself ;)
You really should try it. Its quite mental.
A combination of great compost, varieties of green manures, rock dust, beneficial micro bacteria from teas, fungal from hot composting with the break down of the wood chips set my vegie garden literally out of control.
I have never seen anything quite like it.
The really interesting side benefit from it was the almost immediate reduction / destruction of a large number of common vegetable pests such as slugs, snails, ear wigs and many more (including their eggs and larvae) from the wood chips. The large predators were unable to crawl across the wood chips while the removal of the easily accessible well ventilated straw and loose leaf material also reduced their numbers.
My system involves heavy nitrogen manures plus excellent composted soil to begin with. Constant over layering with chicken fertiliser (from the chook pen) aided in break down and of course fertiliser.
After six months the break down activity really takes off and my foot high garden beds disappeared beneath the accumulating soil. I was placing wood chips on the paths beneath the beds to prevent weed growth. Literally - my garden beds were almost under ground in about a year.
Went from barely growing much - to supply three or four house holds almost ALL their requirements within a few months.
Have recently moved houses and put down five trailer loads of wood chips into three small beds.....
Just try it out.
I will see if I can make it work somewhere !
Great video, thanks. I'm convinced Mg adds value to my crops. I've read Asprin sprayed on tomato plants boosts immunity, prevents end rot and strengthens the plant overall. Why is this and is it true of other fruit bearing plants like blue berries etc?
+Liz Willson magnesium does work. it is just not nearly as effective long term as compost.
asprin is something ill be looking into as well. it should be interesting!
Excellent video but you don't offer any solutions for lousy tomato yields. Southern Ontario has huge tomato farms but across the border here in Michigan I struggle to grow a handful of decent tomatos. What's up with that? Are you folks just nicer to your tomato plants?
Just found your video and subscribed. very informative. Can you please tell me what was the third ingredient in the soil you were testing, autumn leaves, used coffee grounds, and comfrey? looking to start my own garden.
+Elissa S here is a playlist with the other free and local resources that I have tested and found to be effective for building healthy soil.
ua-cam.com/play/PL5mfR-r4BXH2W285QZm4mdsdKo6l98zRK.html
Excellent video as ever. I know that I get cramps in my legs cycling if I haven't had enough magnesium. :)
Most magnesium deficient plants I've seen don't show much reduction in leaf/stem growth, though their stems may look spindly and leaves unsightly. I don't see how Epsom salts would cause large increases in growth here unless it helps with plant immunity to pest/disease attacking it. Taste is subjective too, they might taste better to some people being magnesium deficient! Now I'm wondering what magnesium itself tastes like... other than my favourite way to consume it... dark chocolate. :) mmmagnesium.
Plants I've seen with sulphur deficiency do have stunted growth, likely because it's needed for some proteins and other building blocks like those you mention, so I could see Epsom salts helping here with growth in any deficient medium, and may explain why some people swear by it.
I find plant deficiency diagnosis fascinating. Like calcium deficient leaves that want to curl up at their ends and yellow stem-first. Or iron for holding up new stems, as without it they and the veins on new growth turn yellow and seem to wilt. Potassium is a tricky one, as it can look like magnesium deficiency at first glance, however it's yellow/dead spottiness can give it away, possibly indicating dead stomata aka pores where the plant breathes in and out carbon dioxide and oxygen needed for photosynthesis.
Epsom salt can have a benefit however you really do need to have a deficient state for it to be effective.
diagnosis of deficiency is tough in the absence of soil testing. while your plants may present a certain way it could be a side effect of a number of different conditions!
I agree its a fascinating science that I don't have much experience about as I build my nutrient cycle up and leave the rest to nature!
Howdy, I made a mistake in planting blueberries before amending the soil. what can I do to help them?
Will this work with inorganic gardening? I'm the guy who grows all that plastic fruit you see at the Dollar Tree. I also raise inorganic beef. You've seen my plastic steaks on grills for sale at Lowes and Home Depot.