Why Did I Sell 9 Off-Road Vehicles in 8 Years?
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- On this episode of Coffee One Take I share with you if I Regret Selling 9 Off-Road Vehicles? Over the years I've had the pleasure of owning several offroad vehicles to include a Ford Bronco, a few Jeep Wrangle, Ram Power Wagon, Jeep Cherokee and more. Over time some of these vehicles just ended up not being a good fit for my off-road adventure use and I've let them go. In this video I share with you some of the reasons they have moved on.
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0:00 Intro
1:17 1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ
4:00 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ
5:50 2019 Jeep Gladiator
9:15 2006 Jeep Wrangler TJ
11:18 1974 Jeep Cherokee Chief
14:38 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Diesel
17:14 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe
19:25 2021 Ford Bronco Badlands
22:06 2020 Ram Power Wagon - Авто та транспорт
What vehicle do you miss the most and think we should bring back to the channel?
Power wagon
It would be awesome to see another Power Wagon! I was so excited to see you had one and have missed it. The power wagon is just such a cool and unique truck and one of the best looking trucks on the road in my opinion. OR you could step into a different segment and add a TRX to the fleet. You have the standard Wrangler, the 392, so having something to get you going it a little faster and make some different off road content would be awesome.
I would say the Power Wagon as well I am sure it was fine with that shell on it but that overhead camper seems to be a bit much so, yes more power wagon.
Or the jeep gladiator would be my second pick.
The Powerwagon
Grab a Cummings and build it up with lockers. Loved my power wagon too, but the mpg was a huge drawback.
I miss the Gladiator most of all. Your build inspired me to pull the trigger on buying ours. Glad to hear you may have another one in your future!
Yup, its how and when we found you Brad. We love our 2020 Gladiator Rubicon. We use it for towing and truck stuff. Due to Warranty we are still under we haven't modified much. But, we still love it and plan on some great camping adventures with our UEV-90 trailer camper. So, in closing ; BUY ANOTHER GLADIATOR! :)
A strong rumor that a 4xe Gladiator is coming for 2024.
I would put my stock Bronco Sasquatch Badlands two door (hardtop, manual) up against any stock wrangler. Don’t forget, many wrangler folk compare modified wranglers to stock broncos - it’s not an honest comparison. I’m totally fine with the vinyl and plastic in the bronco ; it’s a truck, not a beauty queen.
HOOAH!
Thanks for taking the time to put together all the video clips and stories behind each of your vehicles. You have built a lot of memories and experiences in such a short time. Big thumbs up to what you do!
Thank you! For me, this was a fun video to edit pulling up all the old footage and being able to look back on some great experiences.
Thank you Brad for the updates on your vehicles, and all the stories that go with them. Great video.
I may be biased because I have one myself, but the XJ is my favorite and that's why I bought it. Also, it is excellent for the sometimes very narrow European forest trails. I enjoy every ride.
XJ's are great and there is still massive aftermarket support for them.
Great wrap up on your vehicles. We appreciate all your hard work with the channel. Keep up the great work. Fair weather and following seas
Brad, the Mr. Rodgers of Overlanding. Would love to catch up with you on a trail one day Brad. You've provided so much pertinent information that has helped me tremendously on and even off the trails. We appreciate you and what you bring to the community. Cheers!
Excellent recap Coffee 1 Take style. Well done balance between brevity and comprehensive. Worth the wait. This family is turning into the Sabol’s of outdoor adventuring.
Brad thanks for being open about the reasons you bought and sold your various vehicles. I did hear the word regret a few times which shows your honesty. Good reasons to keep following your channel.
I came here for the gladiator and I’ve stayed for the great content…and frankly the great people! After watching a few episodes, now my 3 year old daughter points out Jeeps everywhere we go
One aspect I really appreciate about this channel is all the different vehicle content and the honest opinions. I’m planning to switch to a Jeep in a year or two but it’s got to be reliable for my situation. Your experience has both given me confidence to make the switch and insight into what to chose. (Probably won’t go diesel with a giant trailer over a 9k ft pass anytime soon)
One of my all time favorites is actually the suspension shootout you did in Moab. I realize there was likely a huge amount of work to pull that off by you and partners but hopefully we can see one or two more episodes like that in the coming years!
Thanks for the videos, I have learned a lot from you over the years. I am now enjoying my 23 Wrangler 392!
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Great video! You inspired us to get a gladiator, and we have had it for a year and love it! I was sad when you sold yours, but it’s all about what you want to do so keep up the good work!
I am so glad you shared this! I love your passion and attention to detail!😊
Love your content. Don’t be afraid to share the negatives of your rides before you sell them.
You’ve gotten so good and frankly comfortable doing these coffee on-takes, it’s like I’m just there hanging out talkin’ shop. Great opinion piece and insight, always look forward to more…the one I miss most, the Gladiator for sure!
Thanks for joining me!
Some great reviews in practicality regarding what works for your lifestyle. Great content for people considering vehicle types and what works and what doesn’t. Keep up the great content!
I love this channel, thanks for bringing me along for the adventures! God bless
Thanks for the update and sharing your thoughts!!
Well I'm glad you bought the Bronco because that is how I found this channel. I happen to own a 2023 2-Door Wildtrak, and I still always look forward to your next video. No matter what vehicle you happen to be driving, sharing your adventures and projects with us is what keeps me coming back.
I have the 2024 4-Dr Wildtrak, I absolutely love it! Hard top by the way.
You’ve had so many cool vehicles, love hearing the retrospective on the ones you’ve parted with. I’ve got a 2022 Rubicon 4xe lifted on 35s and I think your comments when you sold it were bang on - it’s perfect for someone with a 25 mile commute who wants to do cool stuff on the weekend but isn’t over landing hundreds of miles at a time. Your review clinched it for me and I’ve loved every minute so far. It can do everything a Jeep should and day to day driving I can go 3 weeks on a tank of gas… 2 weeks if I wheel on the weekend 😂
thanks for the recap on the all the whips ! wishing you a beautiful memorial weekend. thank you
Great update vid Brad. I, too, miss my '01 XJ but thankfully, our eldest grandson owns it. The only stipulation I made in selling it to him was that when he was done with it and wanted to sell it, I got first dibs on it. I think we'll always keep that Jeep in the family. Always enjoy all your vids and thanks for the Shift Autowerks recommendation. Jerry and the guys are now my go to mechanic.
I found your channel many years back when you were beginning, and although I still haven't acquired a Wrangler yet, it was nice to see all the decisions one must take into account when purchasing any vehicle you want to go exploring with. I hope I will be able to find my "silver JK" in the near future as I'm 10 years into retirement and am well aware that Time waits for no one. Here's to enjoying your videos and to that awesome yellow 2-dr your wife has. cheers lefty
Note on the bronco: I think your experience is due to the 4 door soft top model. I got a 2 door manual hardtop and absolutely love it. The footprint is great and the handling is phenomenal. I think the bronco was designed to be a 2 door manual all along.
I got a 2 door hard top and my wind noise was just as bad as a soft top and wayy louder than a jeep. It was a dealbreaker. Ford’d build quality is lacking.
@gogators043 interesting. I sold my 2021 JLU willys hardtop before I got the bronco and I'd say wind noise is about the same. Way less tire noise however
I have the four-door soft top Bronco and it’s less noisy than the four-door soft Rubicon.
I had a jk for a long time, been out of it for a couple years, and just started to shop again. I really thought the Bronco was going to be the better clean sheet Wrangler, but I have heard the same opinion as Brad's from a few people now. On top of that, the factory options for non-sasquach builds seem lacking, and online owners are having issues...man, back to shopping for JLs for me! I love the look of the 2 door, though, so here's hoping for some midcycle updates.
@@gogators043it’s a new vehicle. Those kinks will get worked out.
The new Supra has wind buffing issues also.
Great video! For one who is in the market for a Jeep and so many options, this was super helpful!
I wish you made more content on the Bronco before you sold it. It was the vehicle that brought me to this channel.
Great update on your adventure vehicles!
Enjoying the ride with you.. thanks
Great review and reflection on all the off road vehicles for us. Its such a trial and error process. I am on my 3rd one and I can see, for me. An access cab with a long box (6 foot) to sleep in the back does it for me. I am currently driving the 2021 Rubicon Gladiator. Its great I love it and I see your points. Thanks again Trailrecon for all the videos and reviews.
Thanks for all you do for this community and thanks for the great recommendation at Overland West ... I was an audience member who asked where to go in Sedona ... been following you for years ... you were swamped with ppl there but someday I hope to meet live -- I hope to get my son into it just as yours have ... all the best ... Bravo Zulu
GREAT video. The exhaust clip was quite interesting to me. The retro gear is pretty sweet ... recently I helped clean out my parents’ garage and was able to collect quite a bit of the camping gear that I grew up with in the 70s and 80s.
Great content as always Brad. I just bought an 05’ LJ Sport. They’re cool vehicles but they also remind you quickly how far Jeeps have evolved. The newer platforms have so many more creature comforts and they’re just more refined. I also have a 21’ Gladiator diesel overland. I considered towing the LJ with it. After this video and hearing about the overheating issues while towing I may very well forgo that experiment. Thank you for sharing the ups and downs of each vehicle with us
Great review of your vehicles. I enjoyed the pluses and minuses description of them.
Thanks for joining me!
my favorite episode ever on TR. Great work Brad. BTW, we have a Bronco soft top as well, wife loves her Bronco but the soft top is too loud for long trips and we will definitely take the Ram 1500 Limited next time!!
Brad, nice meeting you at the expo on Friday before the rain. Great channel and content. I hope you make it to southern Arizona sometime.
You found out the "hard way" what others had told me when I was looking for a Ram 4x4 for a camper. So I stopped looking at Power Wagons and concentrated on 2500HDs. Even that hunt stopped as we decided to get a trailer (camper) that we could easily tow. Thank you for the whole update about past vehicles. And until next time.... You and Regena Travel safe.
Good info Brad. I have to agree with your opinion on the Bronco, although I think they improved the soft top for 2022. After waiting for almost two years and changing my order from a 2 dr to a 4 dr, some of the excitement had worn off when I got it last November. Although I like it, I will be getting something else in about a year. However, we will keep our 2 dr 2022 Wrangler. Thanks again., and happy trails. 😎
The funny part of this Video is that I have had 3 of these vehicles. I also had a firecracker red Rubicon Gladiator and sold it for my Bronco and after a few months with Bronco I regretted it for the same reasons. We recently picked up a 4xE Wrangler and I love it. My wife who’s never been a truck person absolutely loves the 4xe and she does most of trips all in electric plus a combined 32mpg. Great video.
It’s so awesome to watch your analysis and how level minded you are about the decisions you made. I just listened to an interesting book called “mistakes were made, but not by me”. While I disagree with some of the writers political comments, there were some very good lessons. Especially how once people make a decision that on balance it was close, they spend the rest of their time finding evidence to support their decision and not wanting to accept evidence that may support that they were wrong.
You made decisions you felt were right and you regretted and never worried much about supporting your ego.
I wish I never sold my 1991 2door manual black XJ! Couldn’t have kept it at the time but such great memories from that rig.
Awesome channel. Thanks for putting this out.
Awesome content and memories Brad! Your video editing skills are off the charts BTW....
Thank you!
Powerwagon is why I came to this channel years ago and now I own a 2022 PW. Wish it was still around but I'm doing my own adventures now. :)
Same here. I have a 2024 Ram Power Wagon. Currently building it and taking it offroad soon.
Thank you and your son for serving…I have a SeaBee CM2 at Port Hueneme, and his wife is an HM1 recently moved over to the reserve side.
The gladiator was sad to watch you get rid of because you're the reason I bought one, 3 years later I still love it. It's on 37's and has been all over the country with my family and I.
Great compilation for those who couldn't attend! Thanx you
I’ve been watching since the JKU and I’ve built my very similar to yours and still drive mine with now 220k course with new axles and a 6.2 10 speed swap but it puts a smile on my face every time I take it out.
Great content, love the back stories on each of your vehicles. I had the pleasure of being one of your many fans who got to meet you at Overland Expo. It is refreshing to hear your opinion on these vehicles. It's not about bashing any particular brand it is about a car guy giving his honest opinion. Last couple years I was in the market for an off road/over land vehicle either Bronco or Jeep and when you got your bronco I was hoping to see and hear more about it but, I soon realized it was no longer in your fleet of vehicles so I assumed you did not much care for it. Then I stared reading more about the Bronco and soon noticed more UA-camr's were ditching theirs as well. So I ended up getting a Jeep Rubicon XR in April and absolutely love it. I am glad I chose the Jeep platform over the Bronco. In a round about way you helped me with my decision without saying a word. Thank you for your service and for the content you put out....Keep it up, I enjoy watching.
Thank you so much and so glad we got to meet at Expo!
The power wagon was the reason I subscribed to this channel because I bought mine and was looking for off road videos and was excited to see all the upgrades. Now I want to overland it too. Sooo 😢
Greetings from Puerto Rico🇵🇷 we always watch your videos, success 🤙
WOW! Interesting story,Thanks a lot!
I ready enjoy your channel. I’ve had three grand wagoners, a wrangler as well as a scrambler.
My favorite part of your garage is the ega’s on the wall. Semper Fidelis brother 🇺🇸
Ever consider a Bronco Raptor? Most of the reviews indicate it solves all of the problems you talk about and mentioned.
Not for the price range
Haven't watched TrailRecon in awhile (busy) so this was a nice recap of the past few years!
That Bronco feedback....ooooof. They still haven't fixed the soft top? Did NOT expect to hear you say 4runner possibly over the Bronco!
21:22 not sure how the 4 runner is a better off-road option. The Bronco bests it in every off-road metric and feature. 4Runner doesn't have a sway bar disconnect, front locker or many other specs. The top may be better but that's a given for the obvious. The plastics comment yeah they do feel cheap. But who keeps touching their dash or other plastic parts other than the handles?
Well waiting to see the next one.
My dream is the 2 door 4xe gladiator they built - it's my perfect vehicle
That was very interesting and engaging Brad. Thank you so much for sharing. If you get another diesel I hope they're not banned too soon in Cali.
Wow, that was quite the list of vehicles. The Bronco..... such hype for that vehicle!!! Interesting to hear your point of view. Thanks!!
I’ve got a 04 WJ that I have lifted 2” on skinny 32s. It is regeared and has front and rear lockers. I need bumpers, sliders, and a winch. It has a little over 250,000 miles on it and keeps purring. The simplicity of it and it’s lightweight feel is so nice. I’ve driven it all over the West hunting and it just keeps going. It goes pretty much anywhere as long as it doesn’t get hung up on something.
I know I’ll have to get rid of it and upgrade someday, but I don’t know if a JK or JL can get into the same places I get with that little WJ.
I do think I will end up upgrading to a JL 4 Door Rubicon (V6 w/ 6 speed) in the semi near future, but it’ll sure be hard to watch my WJ go down the road.
Keep up the great content!
come back to the GLADIATOR side!!!! Fun update Brad.. thank you! Can't believe we watched the boys grow up so fast!
I have the exact same Powerwagon as yours because of this channel........only mine is not going anywhere. It's just too damn good of a truck.
Great video - thanks Brad! If I made a video about the number of bikes I've sold within the last 9 years, I'd have to make sure my wife never saw that video. :)
49.5k trouble free miles on my diesel JT. I think you’d like having one 😊
Man I wish you would consider the 2024 Toyota Tacoma trail hunter to the channel that would be awesome for current viewers and new viewers as well. 🙏🤞
For the things I cherish but are underutilized or won't be used, I take some great pictures and note some thoughts down on the back. Far less space and money is taken up that way. Thanks for taking us down the path.
Just swapped Gladiator with Bronco first edition. Gladiator definitely is an awesome platform but they have to either add turbo or bigger motor. So far loving the bronco at it drives fantastic in city and highways. I am looking forward to see refreshed 4runner. Keep us posted. Great seeing you in overland expo.
Missed yall at OX, but I did buy a deluxe fire can and growler from you. Great price! I'm downsizing and going to a Gladiator from a F550 with camper. Great video, thanks!
Keep up the good work chief!
Thank you!
Nice video, well said.
Now time to make a video of why u kept the other vehicles. 😊
I’m bummed you didn’t keep the Bronco. You have the best over landing channel and I respect your opinion more than any other UA-camr. I would have loved to see you tinker and build up the platform. However, as a soft top owner, I completely understand your position.
Bimini top and a wool blanket on top made a world of difference with the road noise. Made me love my bronco again because the noise was too loud.
Yeah wish there was some diversity in the channel and was happy to see the Bronco. And like you wanted to see it built up. But it's just another Jeep channel unfortunately.
Thanks Master Chief. I have bought and kept my 21 Rubicon and it is all stock. The only thing I have added is the winch on the front. So far, good to go. We wheel all over southern New Mexico. Later this year we will be towing our Rubicon Trailer to a few locations north of here. Looking forward to that.
Was good meeting you and Regina at the overland expo in Flag! I'm sure you were randomly spoken to by fans all day, but military to military, I actually felt the need. Glad to hear you honestly miss your PW as I'm kind of going through the same emotions currently. I've got a 12 2500 6.7 6 speed Ram on a 3" lift with 40's right now. Lockers, the whole nine. Just rebuilt the engine, too! I'm torn because I'm wanting to go smaller, wanting to build our 08 LC200... wanting the new taco. Most of all, I just got orders to NY so deleted diesel + NY = no bueno. But... I know I'd regret selling it. In saying that, it DOES have a for sale sticker on it, lol. Big, beefy trucks are ALWAYS enjoyable... but so are the smaller ones! It seems that the right vehicle just doesn't exist for some people. Apparently you, Regina, my wife, and I, are all cut from the same cloth in that aspect!
That was a bitter sweet video... I had a 1500 Eco Diesel that I wish I had not sold. It was such a great vehicle.
I have a JLU and every time I see a nice Gladiator I think what could be. I love my JLU but I think of the usefulness of that truck and the looks and have a bit of envy.
Thanks. I enjoyed this one
Thank for sharing. My favorite vehicle that you have had on the channel that you don’t have now was the Power Wagon. My least favorite was the EV jeep, but I definitely appreciate them all.
I love all your videos . Great info in here . My husband and I thought hard about a slide in truck camper . But decided a off road trailer is better because we can use it with both vehicles . Chevy trail boss or my jeep .
Good to finally hear why you ditched the PowerWagon, I was excited to see someone else defy the masses and use a PowerWagon with slide in :). I have 20k HARD miles on my 2018 with a heavier camper (Northstar 650SC) , and I absolutely LOVE IT!, will never go another route for camping/overland rig. However, I did not lift at all, just added Bags, Bigwig sway, and 37X13.5 Geolander X-AT (E rated) and run 65 PSI on the road, and 35 on the trail. Rides better than any overloaded SUV I've had. I have a couple vids on my channel if you want to check it out.
Love your content! You're the best! This is my obligatory comment to enhance your UA-cam algorithm performance.
I started watching TrailRecon with a story about your experience with some tires on a red Jeep. It was your daily driver to a job. T gave a really practical review in several videos.
We have a Hawk model 4wheel popup camper on our Ram 2500 Cummins powered pickup. I installed Bilstein 5100 shocks on the back, with Eibach shocks on the front. Since that truck is really my wife's. I was forbidden to lift the truck. But that shock combo improved the truck quite a bit until the camper was installed. I will consult with Bilstein before changing shocks.
My wife prefers cooking outdoors too. But really likes the inside stove when the wind howls real strong. We have a travel trailer, but the camper fits in every campground. And at only 8ft in height. We are allowed to travel in high winds, everywhere we go.
We love our 2018 Power Wagon! Its the big brother to the Rubicons. Sadly the aftermarket is so sad when it comes to the power wagon. We are currently waiting for skid plate options that match what is available for the wranglers & gladiators
Excellent again Brad. Oil burner is the way my Grenadier is fab!!!
" Buy high. Sell low and make up the difference in volume " as my late brother Darrell used to say regarding his buying oatterns.
I luv ❤your show!!! I’ll all ways be supporting you long as you keep throwing all this killer content!! And with that said my dad passed last 4th of july😢 and as said as it is my wife is from Arizona! Which is pretty close to ya ! My dads farm sold for 960000$ all together and we plan on taking 2 weeks once the money comes threw in the next 2months and I’d luv to actually meet up with u guys and do a trail or 2 !! That would be awesome! Me and the wife been watching for years but even my 3 and 4 year old actually sit and watch these videos with me!!! And my son loves trail riding 🎉!!!!!! I would just need a list of dates so we could meet up!!! It would be my honor to breakfast for ya out on the trail one day!! Love show keep the content coming bub!!!
Always neat to hear someone else’s perspective.
Though you had the 4xe I remember the video of you going out with your son and bunch of lights on the dash came on. What was the final repair for that?
Kinda bummed the Bronco didn’t work out for you.
A fun conversation would be… list of vehicles you’d build up for under 25k?
I know what you mean about the Power Wagon. I have a 2019 1500 Limited with 106k miles. Zero trouble. The air ride levels it out when towing, which makes it a great towing vehicle.
A 392 gladiator would be pretty awsome! I think it's amazing that you've gotten to show us all of these vehicles revealing the pros and cons with each. Honestly when it comes time to getting me a new jeep you had me sold on you're sons TJ in all aspects really.
Yes it would be awesome but many just wanted Jeep to offer the 5.7 Hemi as an optional engine in the Gladiator.
Stupid government regulations have to screw up the supposedly free market. I wish that the diesel JK Wranglers were allowed to be sold here as they were in other countries. I love my 2 door JK but a diesel would have been sweet especially with a tune for better mileage.
Love your channel, but bummed you got rid of the Bronco so quickly. In retrospect, I think you might have enjoyed it more if you hadn't switched your order to a soft top and waited for the hard top, but I get that you wanted to take delivery faster to get new Bronco content out. It took two years of waiting for my Badlands Sasquatch with hard top to be delivered, but it was well worth the wait for me. I also understand that you had issues with finding a winch bumper that wouldn't interfere with the ACC sensor and wouldn't require relocating it. Thankfully, that option is now available on the aftermarket. As you found with your Gladiator purchase, with new models, it takes time for aftermarket support to catch up. Happy Memorial Day weekend, and thank you for your service!
I've been building a 04 WJ into our family expedition vehicle. We like to get out to the ozarks and rockies a few times a year. I agree with you in that it is a good option for a budget overlander, with the 4.0 and selectrac transfercase being the preferred option for overland travel.
I'm currently involved in a lemon law suit over my 2022 Diesel JTR. Full engine replacement at 17k miles and the shop that replaced the engine fried the starter and power steering pump, now it needs a third power steering pump before 20,000 miles. Like you and Casey, I also run into oil temp problems while towing a meager 2600lbs loaded teardrop.
I wish you would have had more videos about the Ram truck. That is a cool rig.
Bummed about the Powerwagon…. I was wondering what happened to it.
Loved that build because I have a 2500 and it was nice seeing you put it to good use, maybe get an AEV Prospector XL for the channel…
I agree with what you say about the 4xE, it is a good daily without looking like you're driving a bubble.
Diesel gladiator it’s what you need!!! I’d love to watch you build one!
Thanks for all your sacrifices to bring us an overland channel that is all about human changes. we all do this if we like healthy hobbys cars your's Thanks Hugh
I am a car guy too. We have been “car poor” at times because I am a car guy. I definitely agree with your Mustang Mach E comment. The Bronco seems good on the surface; however, I think Ford cheaped out a little and they are WAY overpriced considering all of the crazy dealer markups.
Yeah, because Jeeps are none of those things...🙄🙄
I’m not sure Broncos are overpriced compared to Jeeps, but if they were, you can’t blame Ford for dealer markup.
They literally forced Jeep to make upgrades, and changes, but they cheaped out? Make it make sense.
I had the ram tradesman with power wagon package. I live in Southern Utah. It was an amazing truck. It was around $55,000 or just below that instead of $65- 70k for an actual power wagon. It had a front bench seat so you could actually take six with you. It was not leather. Love that truck. Wish I didn't sell it, But you are right, it is just big. It is heavy too. I have a couple Jeeps and a gladiator and they got around in more places with the four-wheel drive. Just because they are lighter and narrower. But for safety and comfort. That power wagon was awesome. Keep up the good content.
Jeep needs to be called out for all of these reliability problems. As soon as you go away from a basic 3.6 auto Wrangler or Gladiator you open up a can of worms.
Great video Brad! Couple of questions on the diesel engine if you don't mind. I've wanted a gladiator diesel for a long time but have been afraid because of the mixed reviews online. I don't tow much, did it only over heat while towing or going up steep grades in general? Also what upgrades would you make if you had one now to keep it from over heating. Thank you
Wow...we have a 99 XJ just like the first one you sold. Great SUV! It's got over 300,000 miles and going strong...she's a tank!