Cardinal Cupich bans kneeling before Jesus!

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  • @thinkingoutloud7425
    @thinkingoutloud7425 2 дні тому +81

    Altar rails were such a respectful part of communion.

    • @56247
      @56247 2 дні тому +12

      A new Order of Priests, Pro Ecclesia Sancta, in our parish have instructed us to receive kneeling at the communion rail; it is so wonderful!

    • @johnfisher247
      @johnfisher247 2 дні тому +2

      They are also ancient with St Augustine of Hippo mentioning them.

    • @BenjaminHall-yt6kk
      @BenjaminHall-yt6kk 2 дні тому +4

      Go to the Traditional Latin Mass and you will kneel at altar rails to receive Communion every time!

    • @geoffreyk6229
      @geoffreyk6229 2 дні тому +2

      I wonder how my church is going to have the rails. Maybe only at the front? We already have communion given out on the sides and at the back at the 4 masses on sundays and the vigil mass. So maybe people can kneel at the front but not on the sides and at the back??

    • @geoffreyk6229
      @geoffreyk6229 2 дні тому

      My church is is not big enough to have rails on the sides and at the back. People just go up and kneel - those who can.

  • @leaverus
    @leaverus 2 дні тому +53

    If kneeling "draws attention," then have everybody kneel! Then no one will be drawing any attention

    • @stephanielane1821
      @stephanielane1821 2 дні тому +8

      Only with communion rail's can this occur, many don't have the balance to kneel and stand without the help of the rail's, especially elderly people.

    • @Desert-Father
      @Desert-Father 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@stephanielane1821Yes, bring back the communion rails. Works well in my parish.

    • @johnharkness6304
      @johnharkness6304 День тому +1

      👍🏻100%

    • @leaverus
      @leaverus День тому +4

      @stephanielane1821 not true. 1) most people can kneel and even those who have difficulty can make this effort for the Lord once a week. 2) if they really can't kneel, make the extraordinary ministers help them instead of letting non-priests handle the Body of Christ

    • @katydidd6321
      @katydidd6321 День тому +4

      @@leaverus Its weird this is a talking point, the very elderly and handicapped are only a small percentage of the overall demographic yet people act like that's the entire conversation.

  • @lisaevers3052
    @lisaevers3052 2 дні тому +58

    Kneeling is all about HUMILITY and reverence to our Lord… God’s honor takes precedence over any hireling’s edict. Amen! 🙏

    • @geoffreyk6229
      @geoffreyk6229 2 дні тому

      Absolutely. If you can kneel and receive communion then do it. If you can't it is okay because you can always go back to the pew and kneel. It would be better if we have a rail so we kneel but maybe there are too many people. We have at my church people giving out communion inside the church at the back and on the sides...

    • @maureenelsden1927
      @maureenelsden1927 2 дні тому +1

      Kneeling is all about humility, eh? That must be why Henry VIII on his deathbed hypocritically made such a thing about not being able to kneel.

    • @lisaevers3052
      @lisaevers3052 День тому +2

      @ for me (and many others) kneeling is a sign of Humility and Adoration. I have no idea what Henry VIII said/ thought as he was dying- that is between him and our Lord. Blessed Advent! 🙏

    • @maureenelsden1927
      @maureenelsden1927 День тому

      @@lisaevers3052 In a complete and total feigned humility, Henry VIII lamented that he was not only unable to kneel on the ground for Ye Holy Communion but protested that would to God he could be even lower than the ground, so humble was he - I do not think!

  • @nancywilschke5561
    @nancywilschke5561 2 дні тому +61

    My suburban Chicago parish actually began saying the St. Michael prayer after Mass, when Cdl. Cupich banned it. Take heart, you never know which woods may shelter partisans.

    • @jameswall6270
      @jameswall6270 2 дні тому

      @@nancywilschke5561 that's wonderful. Imagine banning a prayer especially one to St Michael in these times. It's almost like they want the church to die.

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 2 дні тому +8

      He banned the st Michael prayer? what a tool.

    • @Herdingcats1917
      @Herdingcats1917 День тому

      @@nancywilschke5561 I try to take heart knowing that all this virulent apostasy from the top is ultimately all part of God’s plan but watching it unfold in real time is really quite stunning to see. Our daily mass congregation recites the Saint-Michael prayer after mass, then the Divine Mercy chaplet , then a rosary.

    • @katydidd6321
      @katydidd6321 День тому

      @@sliglusamelius8578 My bishop banned it too, and we're nowhere near Chicago.
      We do it anyway.

    • @drizzle8482
      @drizzle8482 День тому +2

      We can say prayers in a low voice, each one individually. If some priests have passed on satan's side, we can remain faithful and do things on our own and so we become priests. Jesus said that to Maria Valtorta. Whatever happens, each one of us has a free will, we do not depend 100% on the priests.

  • @stephanielane1821
    @stephanielane1821 2 дні тому +19

    Without the communion rails, many older prople can't kneel for communion.

    • @DeliaGibbons
      @DeliaGibbons 2 дні тому +8

      Exactly. Some of them would find it very difficult to get up from kneeling on the floor

  • @rushthezeppelin
    @rushthezeppelin 2 дні тому +19

    Bishop Vasquez of Austin (who is currently running Bp Strickland's diocese) did this five years ago several weeks before i was confirmed and took first Eucharist as an adult convert. I found out because I kneeled at the rehearsal that morning with unconsecrated hosts and my God father simply informed me of this. I didn't know the limit of the bishop's authority and received on the hand. The gravity of the Eucharist hit me on the way back to the pew and i bawled the rest of the mass. I had been to the TLM (the only one in that diocese) once while I'm rcia and remembered that you only kneel there. I started going the next week and continued with a fssp parish when i moved to Denver a month later.

  • @katherinehales1206
    @katherinehales1206 2 дні тому +22

    At Shrewsbury cathedral UK on the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception at lunchtime Mass, the two priests very diffidently (as if concerned the congregation might react negatively) suggested that we kneel at the altar rail to receive my sense was that the congregation far from being dismayed were thrilled to be permitted to show greater reverance. After Mass there was I real buzz and joy, I don't know if anyone expressed this to the priests, I was passing through and had to rush away but very interesting.

    • @CurrabegOb
      @CurrabegOb 2 дні тому +3

      Exerlent

    • @drizzle8482
      @drizzle8482 День тому +1

      How great. I live in UK, I want to come to Shrewsbury at least once.

    • @marklambert5232
      @marklambert5232 День тому

      Wow that's wonderful! Thanks for sharing!

    • @adrianjohnson7920
      @adrianjohnson7920 23 години тому

      @@drizzle8482 I am with the UK Ordinariate (Manchester area -- St Margaret Mary parish, New Mostin) and we kneel normally, all the time in every Ordinariate parish in the country.

  • @fredsimon6640
    @fredsimon6640 2 дні тому +26

    I attended a funeral mass recently and was the only one to kneel for communion.

    • @williammurphy3766
      @williammurphy3766 2 дні тому +4

      I attended my cousin's funeral Mass a couple of years ago and was one of the very few to go up for Communion. It was obvious that most of the congregation were clueless about the actions at Mass.

    • @paultyrrell9497
      @paultyrrell9497 День тому +1

      So why are you special

    • @mrbaker7443
      @mrbaker7443 День тому +1

      @@paultyrrell9497Because they were the one who had the courage to?

    • @paultyrrell9497
      @paultyrrell9497 День тому +1

      @@mrbaker7443 so everyone else is wrong. Arrogance personified

    • @ninaluz8710
      @ninaluz8710 День тому

      @@paultyrrell9497because our King is the King of the Universe “of All things visible and invisible” and yes! we are “special” because of our King, praying for conversion of poor sinners🙏

  • @johnfisher247
    @johnfisher247 2 дні тому +20

    I knew of Cupich when he was made Bishop in Rapid City on his way up. He was a little thug who caused his clergy great anxiety because of his bullying, yelling and intimidation. I met some of his diocesan who complained of being bullied by Cupich because they were conservative. In the year 2000 the FSSP had a parish in Rapid City are Fr Irwin was the priest. A very good priest in his late 60's at the time. He used to help out hearing Confessions at the cathedral on Saturdays. Cupich asked Fr Irwin to come to his office. Fr Irwin went and on his return told me what happened. Cupich asked him "do he hear Confession?" Did he use the traditional absolution in Latin. Irwin said "yes because I am an FSSP priest and we must use the 1962 usage". Cupich then yelled at him telling him to use the new rite of Confession and absolution.Irwin said to him "I have been a priest for over that 40 years and went to the FSSP after seeing people undo all the good work I tried to do. Please show me some respect". Cupich yelled get out of my diocese and so the FSSP were forced to leave Rapid City. Bishop Robert Carlson of Sioux Falls remarked to me he had little communication with Cupich on the other side of South Dakota and he did not know who the backers of Cupich were. He knew he had a bad temper and fancied himself a liturgist because he studied at St Anselmo in Rome.

    • @maryharrington8983
      @maryharrington8983 2 дні тому +5

      How sad for that parish. Nary a concern for the laity. Lord have mercy.

    • @po18guy-s4s
      @po18guy-s4s 2 дні тому +2

      Some priests in the Spokane Diocese considered him to be intimidating.

    • @johnfisher247
      @johnfisher247 2 дні тому

      ​​@@po18guy-s4sWasn't he rector of seminary in Spokane".

    • @adrianjohnson7920
      @adrianjohnson7920 23 години тому

      Having studied at St Anselmo no more makes Cupich a liturgist than having been born in a stable makes one a horse. 😜

  • @drdelaur
    @drdelaur День тому +6

    So ladies and gentlemen, be brave, kneel, reverence the Lord, and you will be a witness on the day of resurrection
    “Well done, my good and faithful servant“

  • @Bluets023
    @Bluets023 2 дні тому +15

    They can say what they want I just don’t,t care anymore and will center my whole attention on God my Creator .

  • @desertrat1111
    @desertrat1111 2 дні тому +13

    This Cardinal needs our prayers

    • @russbianchi8120
      @russbianchi8120 2 дні тому +1

      Send him to Moscow, the high windows views are illulminating....

    • @adrianjohnson7920
      @adrianjohnson7920 23 години тому

      Yes, I pray he doesn't burn in hell.

  • @johnjoyce1958
    @johnjoyce1958 2 дні тому +10

    For the first time in 1,000 years my Diocese in Cork Ireland has no seminarians. There was one but he left half way through. So now it's zero! 🙏

    • @CurrabegOb
      @CurrabegOb День тому

      The Dominican is in Cork are still getting vacations thanks be to God

  • @ericlauridsen5193
    @ericlauridsen5193 2 дні тому +13

    This is what I like about Dr Chapp is that he can articulate well the situation like a strike of a lightning..

  • @MissPhoenix713
    @MissPhoenix713 2 дні тому +9

    Excellent discussion!! Thank you! 🙏🏻❤️✝️

  • @drdelaur
    @drdelaur День тому +5

    Under obedience to my confessor at my TLM Parish
    I kneel everywhere I go
    He said to be a witness to the true presence of Christ, no matter how inconvenient
    So I obey
    And believe it or not it’s like a small spark that catches fire to others and soon reverence is spreading

  • @BernardStevens-vl3mz
    @BernardStevens-vl3mz 2 дні тому +17

    He is our God. Why can't I kneel before him?? Come on Bishop. 😢😢

    • @una1940
      @una1940 2 дні тому

      Not is the middle of a queue of 100 parishioners. It is not necessary to kneel to be reverent.

    • @una1940
      @una1940 2 дні тому

      The presenter is wrong and divisive trying to destroy and divide the Church. Who is behind his UA-cam video, Satan?

    • @mn17771
      @mn17771 День тому +3

      ​@@una1940
      'Philippians 2
      10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,'

    • @3ggshe11s
      @3ggshe11s День тому +1

      @@una1940 - ever been to a Latin Mass? Everybody kneels. And the line moves along just fine.

  • @marygr8064
    @marygr8064 День тому +6

    I will always only take Communion kneeling and on the tongue even if I have to kneel on my garden cushion and ask someone to help an old woman to stand up. Cupich makes my stomach turn!!!

  • @jroff7475
    @jroff7475 День тому +3

    Thank you chaps, for an endearing conversation. Liberalism is suffocating our ancient Church.

  • @tf8066
    @tf8066 2 дні тому +4

    Thank you so much!! Loved this interview. Excellent discussion.

  • @rrickarr
    @rrickarr 2 дні тому +21

    HOW CAN KNEELING BE WRONG: For the first 1000 years people kneeled. How is it suddenly wrong!!!!

    • @melarrow6202
      @melarrow6202 2 дні тому +1

      Did the Apostles kneel before Christ at the last Supper ?

    • @cordasuenaviolin604
      @cordasuenaviolin604 2 дні тому +1

      This is false antiquarianism. There is a natural evolution of these things. Forcing people to stop kneeling after they have since the first centuries is banning it. Kneeling has been the Latin Church's custom since the Days of the Roman persecution. Romans always knelt before their emperor. God is ours, which is why we kneel.​@@melarrow6202

    • @maryharrington8983
      @maryharrington8983 2 дні тому +3

      They were lying down as was the custom in those days.

    • @Kjt853
      @Kjt853 2 дні тому

      Actually, as much as I personally prefer receiving on my knees and on the tongue, the fact is that in the earliest days of the Church, people received standing and in the hand. Of course, in the earliest days of the Church, Christians could own slaves, so just because the early Church did things in certain ways doesn’t automatically make those ways best or even desirable.

    • @melarrow6202
      @melarrow6202 2 дні тому +1

      @ Right

  • @tomm6423
    @tomm6423 2 дні тому +21

    These arrogant, liberal bishops. Even the pope doesn’t have the authority to ban people from kneeling before God. Yet Card. Cupich does nothing about that Fr. Phlager! I have really had enough of these people.

    • @carolherbert1042
      @carolherbert1042 2 дні тому +5

      Me too!

    • @una1940
      @una1940 День тому

      @@tomm6423 You should be obedient to your pastors. God has placed them there to guide you. You need to be humble.

    • @kevinlents9545
      @kevinlents9545 15 годин тому

      So if one kneels in the Adiocese of Chicago one is disobedient? Hmm… no, not buying it. He was careful in his wording, but the Cardinal did not ban kneeling for Holy Communion.

  • @orarerosarium
    @orarerosarium 2 дні тому +9

    Many in my Annapolis, Maryland parish bow before taking communion. We usually bow while the person in front of us is receiving. It makes me feel more reverent. All of the Eucharist Ministers bow when they are up at the altar. More and more parishioners in this large parish are bowing. 24/7 Adoration is strong.

    • @susand.8905
      @susand.8905 День тому

      Yes, they are suppose to bow before receiving the Eucharist!

  • @sharoncrooks7881
    @sharoncrooks7881 2 дні тому +9

    Too many of us in New Zealand have been denied Holy Communion kneeling and on the tongue, or worse, yelled at in the middle of Mass for attempting to receive Our Lord respectfully. We might be a small country but too many of our bishops would be applauding Cupich right now. We’ve been told at various times over the years that we must not kneel in the Mass at all (we are a resurrection people), so little do they like it when we kneel for Holy Communion. We have whole parishes now that will not bend a knee to Our Lord, period!

    • @Herdingcats1917
      @Herdingcats1917 День тому +1

      @@sharoncrooks7881 Resurrection people(???). LoL!!! Not so sure of that! Most people need to learn how to walk before they can fly.

  • @de362
    @de362 2 дні тому +14

    Who cares what Cupich says? Just do as you always have. Don't worry about it.

    • @susand.8905
      @susand.8905 День тому

      That's right, stand up to this bully, as that what he seems to be!

  • @ggarza
    @ggarza 21 годину тому

    Excellent conversation, gents! Thank you Fr. Z for the recommendation!

  • @donaldlippert6374
    @donaldlippert6374 2 дні тому +9

    Thanks Mark. It’s so concerning how the divide seems to be widening. Perhaps we may find solace in the fact that those who idolize the ‘60’s are slowly disappearing from the scene.

    • @Rocketninja200
      @Rocketninja200 День тому

      That's why they're getting so loud. Young people want traditional mass. They're having a hard time coping with the fact that their entire legacy was just a fashion. Good bye bell bottoms....

  • @po18guy-s4s
    @po18guy-s4s 2 дні тому +9

    In the Spokane diocese, some of his priests described him as "intimidating." THAT I have seen.

  • @eagle-t4g
    @eagle-t4g 2 дні тому +13

    How long will God endure this mockery?

  • @pitapocketortwo
    @pitapocketortwo 2 дні тому +11

    I have knelt 2x since learning of this new ban and my pastor has not "corrected" me. Cardinal Cupich may have over-reached here.

  • @sheilagraham8543
    @sheilagraham8543 2 дні тому +7

    Unfortunately, my parish in West Vancouver stopped praying the St. Michael prayer after Mass a while ago - I miss it. Our Rosary group still pray it at the end of every Rosary🙏.

    • @BenjaminHall-yt6kk
      @BenjaminHall-yt6kk 2 дні тому +1

      Go to the TLM and you will find all that you long for. You may have to travel long distances to find it but the effort will be worth it..

  • @GenevieveLheureux-ch5zv
    @GenevieveLheureux-ch5zv День тому +6

    Thank you for this brilliant analysis of the current situation. Writing from France, where we also knew the worst excesses of V2, but things have been radically changing recently. More and more people kneel from the Sanctus to the Our Father, genuflex or kneel for Communion, and receive the Blessed host on the tongue, especially young people. Attendance at weekday masses is regularly increasing - we were about 60 this morning at the 7 o'clock Dawn Mass. Adult Christenings are at an all time high. Cupich's generation is on the go. At long last. Young priests know how essential it is to love, revere and adore Our Lord before any other consideration. God bless His Church and grant us the grace to serve His Beloved Son.

    • @drizzle8482
      @drizzle8482 День тому

      Merci, très encourageant. Vous pourriez aider si vous vouliez faire Adoration chaque jour devant le Tabernacle (meme si le Très Saint Sacrement n'est pas exposé) ou tous les jours où vous pouvez, au moins une demi-heure.

    • @marklambert5232
      @marklambert5232 День тому

      Thank you very much!

  • @jroff7475
    @jroff7475 День тому +1

    Thanks

  • @chrisschoonmaker4068
    @chrisschoonmaker4068 День тому +3

    The Spirit of 1789 prevails. Karl Rahner would be pleased. All this illustrates where the lines are drawn as it relates to the Protoevangelium. The enemy is very much disciplined and militant. I am sure he very much appreciates wishy washy Liturgies.
    Pax Christi

  • @sheilagraham8543
    @sheilagraham8543 2 дні тому +6

    Thank you for this conversation: we need to view the Mass as Supreme Sacrifice.

    • @56247
      @56247 День тому +1

      YES! It is so humbling to think that we are invited to the Last Supper!

  • @PaulTurner-tw1yd
    @PaulTurner-tw1yd 2 дні тому +8

    Merry Christmas everyday ❤️ ✝️🙏🙏🕊

  • @Raymond-d2l7n
    @Raymond-d2l7n 2 дні тому +7

    It would be unlikely then that Cardinal Cupich believes in the Real Presence? The Eucharist embarrasses him.

  • @BenjaminHall-yt6kk
    @BenjaminHall-yt6kk 2 дні тому +8

    No scandalous thing that Cupich does would surprise me!

  • @maeve5378
    @maeve5378 2 дні тому +5

    It does draw attention. To Jesus.

  • @Helen-wk8sy
    @Helen-wk8sy 2 дні тому +8

    I will continue bowing/kneeling before Our Lord until the day I die. Sounds like the bishop, along with other bishops, have a hidden agenda. Sad. IMO

  • @gerrymcdonnell1946
    @gerrymcdonnell1946 2 дні тому +7

    Pope Paul neither initiated nor designed the new Mass, nor did he abrogate the old Mass. He allowed the new Mass as an indult for those who wanted it and never gave bishops the authority to restrict or forbid priests from saying the Latin Tridentine Mass.

  • @hyeminkwun9523
    @hyeminkwun9523 2 дні тому +7

    Dragon's tail swept away 1/3 of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth (Rev 12:4). Stars in the sky stand for cardinals, bishops, and priests. The swept away are those who lost their mission and became Satan's servants. We are seeing them now before our own eyes.

  • @elainemgardens874
    @elainemgardens874 2 дні тому +21

    If I should ever be in a situation where kneeling and receiving on the tongue is not feasible, I would simply refrain from Communion and say the prayer of Spiritual Communion. Of course I am a 69 year old Traditionalist and have literally been through the mill since Vatican ll and have flushed it!! We did the kneeling at St Peters Cathedral in Scranton before Bishop James Timlin who to his credit never refused us. And years later, to many people’s joy, he allowed the FSSP to operate in the Diocese. Also, the SSPX has had a Parish ( Child Jesus Church) in Pittston, PA for the past 43 years! So we are richly blessed to have these locations to attend the Traditional Mass.

    • @una1940
      @una1940 День тому

      @@elainemgardens874 So you would refuse to receive Jesus rather than follow the teachings of Vatican II. The Pontiff has been appointed by the Holy Spirit and all we are asked to do is follow his guidance. If he guides wrong, which I have not seen any sign of yet, he will be held accountable. But if we do not follow his guidance and teachings of the church we will be held accountable.

  • @pl8154
    @pl8154 2 дні тому +5

    Thank you. The 'order' was to bow. People did for a few months, then nobody did.

  • @thomasmccafferty8203
    @thomasmccafferty8203 2 дні тому +10

    Where is Cupich coming from ? the blessed sacrament has been totally downgraded and people line up to take it as a sweetie in your hand. We should be kneeling to receive the host out of respect. The quicker he is put out to pasture the better.

  • @jameswall6270
    @jameswall6270 2 дні тому +8

    Let's just say it's a mess. Only the restoration of the latin liturgy and strict adherence to the rubrics will sort this out. In my opinion.

  • @gerrymcdonnell1946
    @gerrymcdonnell1946 2 дні тому +8

    The offertory prayer of the new Mass is taken from the Talmudic Sedar meal, the Passover meal. That meal was a commemororation of the Passover, not a sacrifice. It was established after the destruction of the Temple in 70AD. It has nothing to do with sacrifice. It was the Protestants who made their service a remembrance of the Last Supper, the Catholic Mass is not a remembrance of the Last Supper it is the Sacrifice of Calvary re-presented.

    • @greybone777
      @greybone777 2 дні тому +1

      Maybe because Jesus himself said this do in remembrance of me.

    • @maryharrington8983
      @maryharrington8983 2 дні тому +1

      Maybe he had more to say about it to the Apostles between His glorious Resurrection and His Ascension; as well as the Holy Spirit on Pentacost and beyond. Tradition is as important as Holy Scripture.

    • @bruno-bnvm
      @bruno-bnvm 2 дні тому +1

      @@greybone777 That's nothing to do with what the post said, pay attention.

    • @una1940
      @una1940 День тому

      @@gerrymcdonnell1946 Jesus said “Do this in remembrance of Me”. What was the “this” . What had He done? He had changed the bread and wine into His Body and Blood.

  • @GaryStewart-ml1mu
    @GaryStewart-ml1mu 2 дні тому +7

    Not all Catholic parishes in Chicago are like this!

  • @DeliaGibbons
    @DeliaGibbons 2 дні тому +9

    The arrogance of the man is mind blowing

    • @una1940
      @una1940 День тому

      @@DeliaGibbons He has to think of all his parishioners, the majority of which are elderly and very devout. If I knelt down I would not be able to get up. And most of the congregation would be the same. It is not feasible in a crowded church. The times to kneel are at the Consecration and “Behold the Lamb of God” . It is what is in your head and heart that matters when receiving Christ’s Body and Blood.

    • @DeliaGibbons
      @DeliaGibbons День тому +1

      @una1940 I understand that. I have difficulty getting up from kneeling on the floor but not from the altar rail

  • @teresamiller1701
    @teresamiller1701 2 дні тому +4

    THEY CAN NOT CHANGE THE WORDS OF CONSICRATING The Bread and wine; INTO THE BODY , BLOOD, SOUL AND DIVINITY!!!

  • @stephenkeay1868
    @stephenkeay1868 2 дні тому +3

    The documents of Vatican II were written ambiguously specifically to allow the "ecclesiology" we see currently. Sooner or later Vatican II will need to be sidelined.

  • @maryharrington8983
    @maryharrington8983 2 дні тому +8

    The Priesthood is not even the priest's, it is Christ's Priesthood. Jesus would not bless sin.

    • @una1940
      @una1940 День тому

      @@maryharrington8983 Jesus accompanied sinners. He would not bless sin but he sought out the sinner.

  • @Gman-j6p
    @Gman-j6p 2 дні тому +3

    We kneel at the high altar rail in my Anglican church.

  • @caterinemasak2193
    @caterinemasak2193 День тому +2

    Cupich is on his way out and he knows it. Long Live God and the Holy Spirit. Viva Cristo Rey!

  • @anniesue4456
    @anniesue4456 2 дні тому +3

    Tradition is so important

  • @timfronimos459
    @timfronimos459 2 дні тому +29

    Cupich is just another poser w a crosier. He preaches and teaches by example the faith that Bergoglio wants. Apostasy from the top.

    • @jamesdewanca
      @jamesdewanca 2 дні тому

      Poser with a crozier is hilarious

  • @danielkelly9678
    @danielkelly9678 2 дні тому +15

    I’m sorry, but Cupich shows no evidence of a supernatural faith. He is pure ego!

    • @marklambert5232
      @marklambert5232 День тому +1

      Exactly, this is the problem!

    • @adrianjohnson7920
      @adrianjohnson7920 23 години тому

      @@marklambert5232
      "The wicked man flourishes like the Bay tree; but I passed the next morning, and it/he was gone."

  • @marlelarmarlelar9547
    @marlelarmarlelar9547 День тому +1

    I used to be part of the NO, and 20 years ago I was chastised by a priest because I genuflected before receiving. He waved the "host" in my face and said he never wanted to see me do that again! Left the NO parish for tradition after that happened.

  • @mysteryoffaith3999
    @mysteryoffaith3999 День тому +2

    Absolutely disgraceful!
    I pray I will always bend the knee to Jesus Christ the King of Kings. And the Holy Spirit gives me the strength to even accept death (Life) when kneeling before Christ!
    Pain is temporary Christ is forever!

  • @alison4547-o8t
    @alison4547-o8t 2 дні тому +2

    I also ❤ the city of Rome and speaking of Rome as an Anglican 'Rome' is the destination to go.Thanks for the chat guys,as always.

  • @kerrysmc86
    @kerrysmc86 2 дні тому +5

    I went to Mass in downtown Chicago a few months ago and their work-around to deny communion on the tongue was a card placed in the pews saying we should not approach to receive on the tongue because the ministers were old and had shaky hands and were worried they would drop the hosts if we didn't allow them to place it in our hands. 🙄

    • @DeliaGibbons
      @DeliaGibbons 2 дні тому +5

      God help us!

    • @melarrow6202
      @melarrow6202 2 дні тому

      @@kerrysmc86 The priests didn’t want to stare down everyone’s unappetising gullet. Can’t blame them.

    • @PadraigTomas
      @PadraigTomas День тому +4

      Paten?

    • @mn17771
      @mn17771 День тому

      ​@@melarrow6202
      If people are kneeling while receiving, then the priest is above the level of their mouths and cannot look down their gullets!

    • @kerrysmc86
      @kerrysmc86 День тому

      @PadraigTomas exactly!

  • @lisaevers3052
    @lisaevers3052 2 дні тому +5

    Yet the USCCB had no problem spending $20 million for the Eucharistic Revival- I’m not seeing ANY increase in Eucharistic Adoration since July ‘24. Not a very good ROI… 1:1 with Jesus is what moves hearts!

  • @MaggieGrace-td1qs
    @MaggieGrace-td1qs 6 годин тому

    Excellent video.

  • @56247
    @56247 2 дні тому +5

    I believe it is time to do as St. Luke urges: "But when these things begin to happen, have courage, and lift up your heads; because your salvation is at hand." We humans may not know everything, but Satan knows much more and he knows his time is very limited so he is pulling out all the stops. Likewise, this Papacy and his minions know their time of terror and apostasy will be soon ending and they, too, are doing all they can to remove all tradition.

    • @una1940
      @una1940 День тому

      @@56247 No people who attack the Church and Pope Francis are doing Satan’s work.

  • @mn17771
    @mn17771 День тому +2

    Even at the mention of the Name of Jesus, Paul and Timothy instruct us to kneel.
    It is even more important therefore, to do so when in His Presence and at the privilege of receiving Him into our bodies.
    'Philippians 2
    10 That at the Name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God His Father.'

  • @angelina2ish
    @angelina2ish День тому +2

    Bring back the altar rails.

  • @bahreh.7807
    @bahreh.7807 2 дні тому +1

    The worst & harmful enemies are home grown. History has taught us.

  • @marylangdon5840
    @marylangdon5840 2 дні тому +2

    The word " Benedicet ", ie " Blessed it " in the Consecration of the Holy Sacrafice is left out of many transactions of the Consecration of the bread and wine. This was first omitted at the Protestant revolt because Protestants do not believe, in their own theology, of Blessing inanimate things. This why their prayer before meals is God is great and good. Let us THANK HIM for our food....and Catholics say BLESS U😮 41:26 😊S O LORD, AND THESE THY GIFTS WHICH WE ARE ABOUT TO RECIEVE. ETC

  • @jeanw9160
    @jeanw9160 2 дні тому +5

    Could it possibly be that the cardinal does not believe in the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist ~ just a thought. 🤔

  • @johnfrancis4809
    @johnfrancis4809 День тому +1

    How i miss the ability to kneel at railing and receive although about a year ago i found myself at Mass in a church that had reception while kneeling at the rail.
    Much more respectful than being rushed in line and the chaos of too many EEMinisters trying to hurry up everyone to get it over.
    Wonder why reverance has declined?
    And chance for sacrilege so much greater standing in a line.
    I've seen people walk back to pews at funeral Mass with Host in hand...

  • @russbianchi8120
    @russbianchi8120 2 дні тому +3

    Joseph Fessio, SJ, remains correct.

  • @mn17771
    @mn17771 9 годин тому

    I'll take my cue from the Angel of Portugal, during his third appearance at Fatima.
    This Angel who administered the Sacred Host on the tongue to Lucia, and gave the Chalice to Jacinta and Francisco to drink the Precious Blood. These children who were kneeling in reverence to the Eucharist, and to their Heavenly visitor.
    This is the prime example of the correct way to receive the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @timfronimos459
    @timfronimos459 2 дні тому +8

    Tell Cupich to mind his own danged business, especially since He is no longer interested in he Catholic Faith😊

  • @AggieArko
    @AggieArko 11 годин тому

    This is the Body of Christ!

  • @johnjoyce1958
    @johnjoyce1958 2 дні тому +2

    I agree with your guest Mark about 'Fiduccia Supplicans' not being sacramental.
    There is not such thing as an unsacramental blessing.
    This means that if a priest gives a blessing to a gay couple and their union, he is blessing their sinful life, which is a sacralidge by him and a sacralidge for them.
    The Priest also neglects his duty for a call to repentance by the couple to end a sinful relationship.
    So really there is a whole host of sins being committed by giving these blessings.
    It condones that lifestyle which is a mortal sin in itself. 🙏

  • @Herdingcats1917
    @Herdingcats1917 2 дні тому +8

    When I go on a trip, I wait to see if anyone is kneeling. If nobody kneels or receives on the tongue, I make a spiritual communion instead because I just can’t bring myself to compromise on this.

    • @maeve5378
      @maeve5378 2 дні тому +3

      I went through the same thoughts when visiting a parish. Everyone standing receiving on the hand. I prayed for help and just before it was my turn to receive, one man in the line knelt. I took that as Jesus telling me it's ok. It's not me drawing attention to myself. It's doing the right thing. And you never know who may be positively effected by the witness.

    • @una1940
      @una1940 2 дні тому

      @@maeve5378 How would the elderly getup of the floor? Did the apostles kneel to receive the Eucharist from Jesus?

    • @maeve5378
      @maeve5378 2 дні тому

      ​@@una1940Hello Una. You have made a very good point about the elderly. I am not suggesting kneeling should be obligatory. Some are unable to kneel. Both ways are acceptable and we must not judge. As Mark suggested, it's something that requires discernment and is very personal. This is simply my own experience.

    • @Herdingcats1917
      @Herdingcats1917 День тому +1

      @ it’s just so tragic that we even have to be subjected to that kind of stress within our own “sanctuaries”. Anxiety and uncertainty should be the last thing we should feel at such a critical moment of our devotion and that is to my mind clearly the smoke of satan in our churches.

    • @56247
      @56247 День тому

      In France the times I have been there no one knelt during the consecration; I did and now I have read a post from a person from France who says many are kneeling now in France during the consecration. I am not saying what I did had an influence, however, adoration and thanksgiving will eventually bring many more to follow.

  • @michaeltres
    @michaeltres 2 дні тому +2

    I'm Eastern Orthodox and we never kneel to receive communion, so some of this debate seems a bit odd to me. We also never kneel on Sundays for any service, and we never kneel on any day in Paschaltide. But we do kneel on weekdays outside Paschaltide, although not for receiving communion, as I mentioned. The shocking part to me is that RC bishops do as they please with no repercussions. In the East, know-it-all bishops lose their jobs. The laity do not sit around while the hierarchs run roughshod over the faith.

    • @Desert-Father
      @Desert-Father 2 дні тому +1

      It's an East v West liturgical difference. In the West to stand before a king is to show contempt for him. Hence, why Latin Rite Catholics traditionally kneel from the Sanctus through the Roman Canon (Liturgy of the Eucharist) until after the 2nd ablution. In the East, they do not have the same cultural stigma about standing and so their liturgical posture more resemble the practice among Eastern Orthodox.

    • @michaeltres
      @michaeltres 2 дні тому

      @@Desert-Father More to the point, Canon 20 of the Council of Nicaea forbids kneeling on Sundays and on all the days of Paschaltide (called Pentecost in Greek, meaning the 50 days after Pascha, not just the 50th day of Pentecost itself). The Orthodox view Latin kneeling with suspicion specifically because of Nicaea.

    • @Desert-Father
      @Desert-Father 2 дні тому +1

      @michaeltres A disciplinary liturgical posture based on cultural differences. Not a matter that would be grounds for a definitive teaching. A disciplinary ruling that has been superseded by centuries of liturgical practice in the West and missals requiring that posture promulgated by the hierarchy of the Latin Church.

    • @michaeltres
      @michaeltres День тому

      @@Desert-Father That's fine. RC practices have no bearing on my own life. I was just pointing out that the Orthodox would never agree with any ruling that superseded Nicaea.

    • @drizzle8482
      @drizzle8482 День тому

      Oh, please, do not talk. I was born orthodox and I converted to Catholicism. Orthodox cannot give any lessons. Orthodox Church is not even the Church of Christ. "You are Peter and on this Rock I will build MY CHURCH..."
      "My Church", NOT "My churches" !!!
      Jesus Christ only founded ONE Church and the Rock=Saint Peter was martyred, died and was buried IN ROME.
      The Catholic Church is being put to test by Jesus Christ right now, that's all.
      Jesus continued His sentence "...and the gates of hell will not prevail over it." What did He imply? "They will try."
      And, when satan tries, he doesn't joke.
      The Eastern Orthodox church is based on lies and it's full of scandalous priests who cannot be an example for anyone !!!

  • @lauracook7608
    @lauracook7608 День тому +1

    He doesn't have the authority to ban reverence for Christ in the Eucharist. Bring back altar railings.

  • @albertito77
    @albertito77 2 дні тому +2

    It is the most Catholic thing in the world to look up to our shepherds. How sad that this shepherd is proving himself so scandalously un-bishoplike.

  • @whiteheatherclub
    @whiteheatherclub 2 дні тому +3

    Cardinal Cupich reached the age of 75 in March 2024. Has he submitted his resignation to the Pope, yet?

    • @lorih9182
      @lorih9182 2 дні тому +3

      It's rumored that he did, and Frankie has summarily disregarded it.

    • @adrianjohnson7920
      @adrianjohnson7920 23 години тому

      @@lorih9182
      Why am I not surprised. 😝

  • @lauracook7608
    @lauracook7608 День тому +2

    the 1970s were so bad for the reverence for the Mass. Horrible music, horrible architecture, the removal of beautiful statues and wonderfully designed altar railings, liturgical dance; all of it was terrible!

  • @CigarMode-4good
    @CigarMode-4good 2 дні тому +1

    Is anyone else getting a YT commercial interruption about every three minutes or so?!

    • @thomass.4890
      @thomass.4890 2 дні тому +1

      They don’t want you watching this

  • @johnfisher247
    @johnfisher247 2 дні тому +1

    What about his forbidding the Institute of Christ the King from offering Mass in the church they are restoring in Chicago.

  • @Rennyteam359
    @Rennyteam359 День тому

    Altar rails were removed to remove the feeling of separation . I grew up practicing Catholic and went through the changes of the 60's with no problem. There is much beauty and love in worship. When in a Catholic church I found a wonderful closeness to God, a serenity. It is still there, but over time, the ordained leaders became more like the Pharacies where rules became more important. Seems to be getting worse.

  • @seansheehy6725
    @seansheehy6725 День тому

    The Holy Mass is a sacred meal that completes the Sacrifice which begins with the preparation of the victim followed by the sacrificing of the victim that concludes with the consuming the victim. It is a complete lack of understanding of the Mass to reduce it to a meal.

  • @philiphumphrey1548
    @philiphumphrey1548 2 дні тому +4

    Fascinating discussion. I don't entirely agree with ultra traditionalists like Mr Chapp, but he does have a point about some of the abuses. I don't like the direction Francis is trying to take the Church in, as an ex Anglican, I've seen where that leads (total disaster). There must be some middle ground.

    • @timobrien72
      @timobrien72 2 дні тому +3

      Yes I fund myself drawn to tradition (I never thought I would but then again I never thought about I at all). I was more to the left say 2 years ago and beyond. Now I se the absolute beauty in the Latin Mass etc. There is division but it never seemed that it was terminal at all just; "oh OK you like traditional themes and I'm more drawn to the modern but we can worship together.
      Like you say look what's happened to the Anglicans.

    • @56247
      @56247 2 дні тому +10

      Careful! The 'middle ground' as you say, is what has opened the door to relativism. Labeling Dr. Chapp an ultraconservative seems very strange considering is all he has defended are the teachings of the Catholic Church!

    • @Kjt853
      @Kjt853 2 дні тому

      Chapp is certainly orthodox in his theology and opinions, but “ultra traditionalist”? He doesn’t even attend the Latin Mass!

    • @philiphumphrey1548
      @philiphumphrey1548 День тому

      @@56247 I said ultratraditionalist, not ultraconservative. There is a difference. Much as I dislike most of what Pope Francis says and does, I think he is right about the rigidity of ultratraditionalists and the danger of turning Latin or the Tridentine mass into idols. I've seen that happen with some Catholics. The devil sets many snares, and they apply equally in both liberal and traditionalist camps.

    • @56247
      @56247 День тому

      @@philiphumphrey1548 Sorry I did mean ultra-traditionalist- same problem though- the Catholic Church is founded on Scripture AND Tradition- if it is troubling to some, there are many Protestant churches that also believe that Tradition is a road block to Jesus. Consider iconoclasts over the centuries that view statues and pictures as 'idols'! How many stripped our churches of their beauty because people idolized the statues, stained glass and stone and woodwork! Based on your thought, we should probably do away with money, food and drink as Western civilization has largely turned those into idols.

  • @JEAN-c9c2t
    @JEAN-c9c2t 2 дні тому +6

    Kneel anyway.

  • @drdelaur
    @drdelaur День тому

    And pray for her!

  • @3ggshe11s
    @3ggshe11s День тому +2

    America's worst bishop strikes again.

  • @stevezettle3212
    @stevezettle3212 18 годин тому +1

    My only comment is bring back altar rails.

  • @deniscurless7809
    @deniscurless7809 2 дні тому +2

    If you meet a royal you suppose to bow as a sign of respect. In communion you kneel as a sign of respect to a true king. How dare anyone say he slows down communion. When I was a kid the priest alone gave communion and it took 15 minutes. Now people want quicknservice with no respect for God. This why our churches are empty - no real respect for God and priests and bishops counting money loss rather than loss of souls.

    • @una1940
      @una1940 2 дні тому

      Our churches are not empty. Mass would have about 100 people on Sunday at two of the Masses. And there are five churches in the town.

    • @deniscurless7809
      @deniscurless7809 2 дні тому +1

      I live in England and trust me catholic churches are more empty than ever before.

    • @una1940
      @una1940 День тому

      @@deniscurless7809 You are so arrogant! How dare you think that other communicants are less devout than yourself. How could any elderly person kneel and get up by themselves?

    • @mn17771
      @mn17771 День тому

      ​@@una1940
      Elderly people, or any disabled person, who are not physically capable of kneeling are not, or never were expected to kneel.

    • @drizzle8482
      @drizzle8482 День тому

      @@una1940 On how many inhabitants in all?

  • @lhetzel101
    @lhetzel101 День тому +1

    I live in the archdiocese of Chicago and have to drive 60 miles for 1st weekends to attend the TLM--he’s the biggest P.O.S

    • @marklambert5232
      @marklambert5232 День тому +1

      Hopefully it will be over soon. He has made himself look very stupid with this escapade as well!

  • @cherylfangman4066
    @cherylfangman4066 2 дні тому +2

    A Catholic priest has far more responsibilities than a protestant pastor and a family takes away from the parish flock. True priests serve ...since V11 I cannot believe some of the things people think.

  • @veganandcatholic
    @veganandcatholic День тому +1

    Folks just need to IGNORE him surely ??

  • @markoneill771
    @markoneill771 2 дні тому +2

    Sometimes I wonder if some of these bad priest put unconsecrated hosts up for Eucharistic adoration. Sad that I have this fear.

    • @drizzle8482
      @drizzle8482 День тому

      We must pray Jesus and Mary not to allow us to be deceived. I'm sure Jesus will never reject such a prayer.

  • @patriciarocco2610
    @patriciarocco2610 День тому +1

    Cardinals cannot ban a religious practice. The problem with Catholic Churches is architectural. The Anglicans kept their communion rails which makes it easier to kneel. The communion rails that have been retrofitted are awkward. I watched a priest practically fall over because he had no room to walk.

    • @RC_Zak
      @RC_Zak День тому +1

      The Anglican churches were originally Catholic churches so you need to learn history properly before commenting rubbish

  • @tomthx5804
    @tomthx5804 День тому

    I KNEW I saw Cardinal Cupich in the Wizard of Oz. He hopped around in front of the Wicked Witch and then flew off to attack Dorothy.

  • @GB-fv4fb
    @GB-fv4fb 6 годин тому

    Kneeling is act of adoration of God in HIS House in reception of Him. It is between God and the recipient, NOT the "community"

  • @Knight-s2o
    @Knight-s2o День тому

    A priest told us that MacDonald's was invented by two brothers named MacDonald who watched Catholics take communion. Ask Cupich if he would like fries with his Takeaway communion.

  • @DeeStewart-oj2zj
    @DeeStewart-oj2zj 2 дні тому +3

    Plenty of Cupich’s in Ireland!