oKhaliD and Atow have Polar Opposite Playstyles
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atow plays like his team is winning 5-0, khalid plays like his team is winning by 1 with 10 seconds left
This is a really good comparison
8:00 Is the most satisfying player sync ever lol
glad i wasnt the only one that noticed that
Broo that was so crazy, I felt like I was trippin
lmao thats hilarious
lmao thats hilarious
Came here to make sure someone pointed it out for everyone! Incredible stuff.
KC is just so fun to watch. Atow makes it so intense and fast-paced, Rise is just the iceman with crazy sub 30 second goals, and Vatira is Vatira.
Why is rise good? Genuine question
@@jakebrowning2373 I'm definitely no analyst, but to me he just seems to clutch up at very crucial moments to keep the momentum in his team's favor. He makes some high risk plays and they can backfire, but they can also come through massive. I feel he is also just a well rounded player and can do it all with a very high game IQ.
@@jakebrowning2373rise is just a very efficient striker, compare his air dribbles to someone like joyo, or another more free style player, rise is almost always threatening goal, not wasting boost doing circus tricks. He is mechanical, but still very efficient when attacking with ball
@@ordinarilyirresistible6907 plus he's probably the best 2nd man in the game, he can always keep the pressure in the opponent's half, that is what changed in BDS, and now with KC, and his demo game is insane, always clutch demos, even if KC almost suffers a goal, Rise demoes the last man and if Vatira or Atow save it, it's an open net in the other end
When I saw that double air dribble bump I was like “uh oh this team is gonna be gross” like they have so much control they can do whatever they want
Thanks a lot Johnny for these more analytical videos, even if they may get less views and only interest a certain audience, that audience knows how to appreciate them at their true worth
Think these stats could be outliers because the final scoreline comes down to just a few seconds of play. Most of the game is stuck in a stalemate until there is a dramatic break. Only a 3 goal game, so the behavior immediately around those 3 goals are the most relevant to the outcome of the game, and the overall average is mostly stalemate.
That’s pro rocket league these days. I think performing better in the highlighted stat makes your team less likely to be the one who has a breakdown and loses the stalemate. I personally don’t believe it’s an outlier or unimportant stat because of that reason.
Man KC really plays with the biggest set of balls. Love these types of videos, Johnny.
8:00 bro's synchronised af
love the video hope to see more of these analysis videos
Very well made vid with a super intriguing perspective and great insight cheers john!
oKhalid looks like Gibbs 2015 in this gameplay. Lmao.
I can't wait so see the major
Both are legendary players I freaking love them ❤❤❤❤❤
When you said Falcons won, I thought that meant Okhalid won, because of course I did. lol
Good days
Chalked cast convo got us some analysis
4:08 Are boost pads coded to be a fraction more than 12 boost? Interesting to see two pad pickups added 13 then 11... Has it always been that way? 🤔
Has to do with how much boost you have in the tank. It essentially rounds your number, so the boost pad gives you 12, but you may have had slightly less or more than 1 when you picked it up.
@@keyton1928I've been playing rocket league for 8 years and I didn't know this??? Please elaborate now I'm curious
@@den93050 it’s just a visual thing. The game is pretty precise with how much boost you have. But it’s not going to show you decimal points. So you see the whole number on your screen; is the basic idea of it. You still have the same amount of boost when you see it do what the original commenter said, just a visual thing.
@@keyton1928 that can't be true. Even if the boost amount is rounded (I believe you), the small boost pad should have added 12 each time. Rounding doesn't explain it adding 13 vs 11.
@@keyton1928 for example, pick a starting boost amount, and add 12 twice. Now round each of the 3 quantities and you'll see that the rounded quantities are also exactly 12 apart. If you don't believe me then find a counter example
It would be interesting to delve deeper into the factors that produce a higher win rate for teams that are more behind the ball. Based on the factors identified, what conclusions will teams draw? By trying to have a style of play that maximizes this statistic, will their win rate increase, or is it another winning factor that produces this high rate behind the ball? Does having a high rate behind the ball correlate with a defensive or controlling team? How much of the current meta is about speed or control? I remember your video about Ahmad and his speed of play, notably thanks to his ability to manage his boost and keep his supersonic speed. You compared speed of play in your last video of the players on the GenG / G2 match and it didn't seem to be a determining criterion. Why didn't it? Is there a levelling out of playing and rotation speed between the pro teams, or do the differences in speed not imply higher win rates?
As coaches become more professional and analytical, aren't we moving away from a rocket league based more on pure speed and into a rocket league based more on a chess game model like KC's double airdribble bump? (If the theory of speed levelling is correct, then marginal performance gains must be found elsewhere).
Watching that Atow play, there was several solo plays that I just can't figure out how they were stopped. More impressed by the defense than KC's play. The passing interrupted the solo plays blocked, literally forced the air dribble bump play because nothing else worked. Insanely impressed.
Atow is one of the most pressurizing players in RL. Barely gives opponents space and challenges so well.
Would love to know Luminosity's ahead/behind the ball stat
4:41 feel like Okhalid didn't follow up nearly as quick as he could here and it cost them the goal.
Would like you to look into mena ROC team(nush,drknown,ops)
Chess Grandmaster Hikaru said in his recent videos "What Grandmasters learned from the computers that it is okay sometimes to not have a plan"
I feel like Rule 1 need to play around Nwpo style which is Modern other than what is Khalid and Ahmad is used what I mean by that is prioritize aggressiveness and involvement more than traditional plans that are slow but it feel safe, it is hard to explain but Khalid and Ahmad rely on their conscious decisions instead of trusting their inner confidence, one type of play you see a lot in EU also in the new Falcons is try to challenge and beat the opponent to the ball most of the time and what I think is the one who is challenging is trying to call out the direction where the ball he think it will go to therefore you see someone ready to receive it also I believe EU top teams has insane awareness to their opponent positions that most of the time they might not need to call it as they aware of it.
Modern RLCS is all about who can be better in directing the play at all times specially around challenges which is tricky to read, sometime I believe some aerial attacks are just distraction for the team to reroute and be prepared to the outcomes of any aerial challenge and carry on the attack, another theory I have is sometimes a team would attack not to aim to score but waste opponent boost and make them position weirdly and prepared to predictable clears
Moist London Major against Falcons they literally took control of everything, it got to the point where even they would allow falcons to retrieve the ball without any pressure!! AND you see Moist in their half prepared to Falcons attack?!, it felt like Moist did that intentionally making falcons coordination bad and having not enough boost to stop the moist counterattack.
RuleOne need to really understand it is okay to not half a 100% clear plan.
I love how Atow plays the game
What's the name of atow's black trails?
I think it's black painted lightspeed
I wish you had another game for khalid because this was G7 GF so he was playing very carefully as a third man .. thanks johnny we love these videos 🙏
Okhalid's playstyle is textbook positioning. How goldenlight teaches it.
Okhalid is Gibbs?
I see Atow, I click
Kc has everything... hear me out. Atow has to be the 2nd best offensive player in the world (monkey would be the other arguable for that) rise is the best disruptor and 2nd man in the world and vatira is the best defensive player in the world (in 3s). They have it all and they all can switxh roles too both vati and atow can become disruptor and all are great defensively and offensively. They are all so impressive and truly my favorite players in the scene even when all separate last season. Its so great to see the reunion of rise and vati and then mix in atow and have it actually work in EU of all regions. Great stuff.
4:45 - 5:00 why okhalid needs to be replaced.
Do I need to tell you how zen own goaled at worlds. Or how many mistakes Vatira made. Mistakes happen. I am a GC3 and sometimes shitty awkward ball bounce occurs.
@@swat2788 bro thats two continuous mistakes and khalid has been lagging behind for many games not only one. He is so far away from the play.
Bro I might puke. How do yo u even say that.@@solo_wing_pixy_fan7367
Wow atow makes Khalid look so slow
Khalid has 2 really good mechanical players he doesnt need to be the 3rd he needs to be back and defend. He defends really nice. If you give him 2 normal players he would have gone upfront.
It’s kinda boring to watch a third man icl but it’s also really cool to see how defensive some players are
Great Stat. Playing devil's advocate I would suggest that correlation isn't necessarily causation.
When a team has tremendous pressure, bumps, demos, and boost steals, that team would naturally be behind the ball when they have 80% of the field behind them as they maintain offensive pressure.
When you're on defense hungry for boost and only 20% of the field to work with, you'll likely push out to grab boost.
Of course you could argue if they just stayed behind the ball and stayed on defense they would have a better chance to save the ball with zero boost than 100 boost in front of the ball.
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Khalid plays like its 2016. Being nothing but a defensive 3rd man doesnt get you anywhere anymore
I think the playstyle of the current rule 1 roster is not gonna be successful against international competition. It often feels like nwpo is the only rly dangerous player on offense. Khalids mechanics fell off a lot. Everything he does looks so readable
Yeah that traditional 3rd man, like torment/fireburner/ferra doesn’t work in today’s game. All 3 players need to be threatening or else it does get too predictable. Watching Khalid’s gameplay here didn’t look good. He would keep giving away possession and rotate back. Their strategy looks like 2 high level players carrying their low level player, that just tries to fill in the gaps
Somebody clearly hasn't been watching rule one play lol. Have you seen some of the shots that Khalid has already hit this season? His mechanics are WAY better than they have ever been. When he was on Falcons he never even got the opportunity to show his mechs he was always stuck playing defense.
@@grapesunkistboxing458 i personally have watched every r1 game so far this season. Sure khalid got better mechanically, but not as much as alot of the other pros.
not really, guys okhalid is a very similar player to Rado and before you say I'm bronze or whatever I consistently run into both of them in my 2s games. Rado alone is not exactly the most threatening player but within the vitality system they work very well together. The current RL meta doesn't allow for 3 Nwpos or 3 Zens on one team because of how teams have improved upon passively stealing boost and removing players from the game
To say Nwpo is the only dangerous one on ball is ridiculous. Khalid clearly has made massive improvement in mechanics and has shown some incredible passing ability. Ahmad has always been a serious on ball threat just seems he doesn't know where to be sometimes. Once things really click with this team they will be deadly
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Wow okalid is washdd
Then what does that make Ahmad and nwpo if they are on the bottom of the scoreboard? You don't know what you're watching
you are a plat
@@grapesunkistboxing458 points mean shit dude
@@swat2788 im french so that makes me a better player than you
@@swat2788 and no im diam 2