Peculiar review considering my own experience with my RDB. It’s easy enough not to touch the hot parts you know are hot. Simple as hell. Got a couple 1000 rounds through mine with no issues. Don’t know what to think of his review
First time I'll disagree with you on the gun review. I use the RDB20 in Canada for 3-gun competitions, and train with it twice a month on the weekends (lots of mag dumps), and I use the same handguard you have there. It definitely gets hot, and yes I know you're talking about the 2 retaining pins near the safety lever and along the front handguard, but after the one initial "Ow that's hot" - it's easy to just.... not do that again. As firearms enthusiasts, we learn pretty early on not to touch the barrel of a rifle after use, and adding 2 additional pin areas to the list of no-no areas is not a deal breaker in my opinion. I've also never gotten burned by hot brass coming out the ejection port, but I have found lots of brass (20+ casings) in my cargo pants pocket one time when I didn't button down the flap. The downward ejection makes it so much easier to clean up the range afterwards. I've got 3500-3800 rounds through my RDB, and I clean it every 500-600 rounds. The only failures I ever had was in the first 10 rounds, when I was adjusting the gas block. That gas block adjustability is why it also functions much more reliably than a Keltec SU16. I did buy a couple of spare firing pins because I read that they have a tendency to break, but I haven't had any issues with that. I shoot surplus 5.56 and match ammo, and can hold 2.5 MOA and 1.5 MOA respectively all day long. The trigger is as crisp as my AR15 safe queen. The balance is fantastic (I haven't tried an LPVO, just a dot + magnifier so I can't comment on LPVOs), and I can shoot it from the shoulder with one hand and not feel any fatigue for a long time. The 2nd place winner at the IPSC International Rifle competition in 2019 used an RDB, in a field of 175+ international competitors who were all using AR15s. My only recommendation is that if you do review a rifle, you won't do it justice if it's a gun whose history you don't know. It sounds like you are basing your whole feedback on a rifle that may have been abused or improperly maintained, and it's concerning that you're a third-hand user of it, with no idea how it was initially used or how many rounds it has already seen. I'm still a big fan of your reviews though. We can agree to disagree on it - I'll edit my comment if or when I run into any issues with my RDB, but for now, it's my main competition rifle and hasn't let me down against other competitors with Bren 2s, Ravens, B&Ts and X95s. In my opinion, it's one of the most underrated rifles available to us Canadians.
We will certainly agree to disagree. My main qualms with the rifle are not the reliability, that's why it was not the main focus of the review. All the other problems I had were. If you use it thoroughly and have no problems, that's fantastic! There's no such thing as a rifle that suits everyone. If you watched long enough there was bound to be a review you didn't agree with :)
Also a Canadian. Also have a similar set up. Similar. I find it to be the best for transitioning around my range. The best ambi rifle I have currently. Ambi is a deal breaker for me. If I can't shoot both shoulders with a cheek weld I don't want it. Also, I have a raven, siberian and wk 180. I wouldn't give you 10 cents for a truck load of wk180s. Trash. The bcl isn't that bad, it has some issues that need to be sorted out from a manufacturing standpoint. They're great to deal with. Love them. Don't love the semi autos yet but I will. My mrx bison and trx howitzer are pretty nice. The cz trail or scout whatever is a bit more refined because it's cz. These are cheap guns. I mean cheap. All of my cope rifles added up don't equal one of my cadex rifles. I dunno. They're toys and some people take this too seriously. If youre spending less than 3 grand and relying on it...well. that's not the rifles fault. It's like buying a used k car and hoping it will keep up to the corvettes. The boomer came out there.
I have the RDB and Tavor X95. I love my RDB even though it's been back to the factory twice. The trigger is sweet and it fits me well because I am a Lefty.
How is your gas system set? The RDB has a longer bolt travel than most 5.56 rifles. Closer to an AK. Except unlike an AK that ejects the spent case in the first half of it's bolt travel and then everything after that is just extra travel for no reason. The RDB's bolt, because of it's whole downward ejection behind the mag well, HAS to go ALL THE WAY BACK to reliably eject and feed. If it short strokes for whatever reason (typically because people set the gas adjustment too low), you're gonna have jams. Turn the gas system up. Also am I the only one that doesn't get bothered by ejected brass? Like I've literally caught 5.56 brass coming out of an ejection port in my hand, and sure, if I just hold it for a couple of seconds it starts getting pretty hot. But having it simply hit my skin momentarily and bouncing off? It's never caused me any discomfort. Except for a Mini14, that thing shoots brass out about as hard as it shoots the bullet. The danger zone on those is everything sort of, but not directly in front of the muzzle (Mini14 accuracy joke) and everything to the right of the ejection port. LOL
The gas system was tested on every setting. The whole gas system was fucked and needed to be replaced. My friend got replacement parts, I'm not sure if he's installed them yet or not.
I bought one on a whim on a Saturday, several weeks ago, cancelled it on Sunday's sober second thought. I wasn't sure if I wanted to take the chance on keltec and further oic etc. I wanted a centrefire, but I guess I should look to the Raven.
Literally anyone can learn the proper manual of arms for any gun, no matter the design. The Sten gun is not a design masterpiece by an stretch, but people were still effective with it. The flaws that I perceive in the video are in comparison to other firearms that are available and do not have those same flaws or learning curves. When we are talking about spending large sums of money, these are things that might drive some away. Thus are important to mention. Also, the gun completely breaking and requiring parts replacements after less than 2k rounds without cleaning is not "operator incompetence."
was looking at 300 dollar red dots last night for my own keltec, an su16, when i stumbled across an old reddit post you made saying youve had a feyachi on all these guns you've put thousands of rounds through between all of them. so i ordered one on amazon. and here we are the next day and you post a vid of a keltec with a feyachi on it. funny coincidence.
I hope it works well for you. I've run thousands of rounds of 7.62x39, .223, and 9mm across 3 optics and they've all been great. But who knows, maybe I won the cheap red dot lottery. If it doesn't work out, amazon's got great return policies lol.
Most everything you covered in this video isn't make or break so long as you can adapt your manual of arms, but the downward ejection is kind of a deal breaker, for me personally. Sure, a truly ambi bullpup is a nice idea in principle, but in practice that's going to be nothing short of a bitch and a half if you wanna do any sort of competitive shooting, tactical shooting, malfunction drills, or larping. I know, I know, these are all things that can be worked around. After all, there are some really high speed units out there that loved the P90 but the last thing I personally wanna worry about in the middle of shooting a match or having fun in the woods with the boys is having to take a knee and flip my rifle upside down whenever I have a stoppage.
Idk man, I feel like most of the complain you've had are mainly comfort issues. Wearing gloves, adjusting grip, and buying 1 or 2 extra spare firing pins (for 10$ each) would fix 90% of your complains, and saying that it's as reliable as the wk180 or the siberian is just wrong. Great video none the less
Peculiar review considering my own experience with my RDB. It’s easy enough not to touch the hot parts you know are hot. Simple as hell. Got a couple 1000 rounds through mine with no issues. Don’t know what to think of his review
First time I'll disagree with you on the gun review. I use the RDB20 in Canada for 3-gun competitions, and train with it twice a month on the weekends (lots of mag dumps), and I use the same handguard you have there. It definitely gets hot, and yes I know you're talking about the 2 retaining pins near the safety lever and along the front handguard, but after the one initial "Ow that's hot" - it's easy to just.... not do that again. As firearms enthusiasts, we learn pretty early on not to touch the barrel of a rifle after use, and adding 2 additional pin areas to the list of no-no areas is not a deal breaker in my opinion. I've also never gotten burned by hot brass coming out the ejection port, but I have found lots of brass (20+ casings) in my cargo pants pocket one time when I didn't button down the flap. The downward ejection makes it so much easier to clean up the range afterwards.
I've got 3500-3800 rounds through my RDB, and I clean it every 500-600 rounds. The only failures I ever had was in the first 10 rounds, when I was adjusting the gas block. That gas block adjustability is why it also functions much more reliably than a Keltec SU16. I did buy a couple of spare firing pins because I read that they have a tendency to break, but I haven't had any issues with that. I shoot surplus 5.56 and match ammo, and can hold 2.5 MOA and 1.5 MOA respectively all day long.
The trigger is as crisp as my AR15 safe queen. The balance is fantastic (I haven't tried an LPVO, just a dot + magnifier so I can't comment on LPVOs), and I can shoot it from the shoulder with one hand and not feel any fatigue for a long time.
The 2nd place winner at the IPSC International Rifle competition in 2019 used an RDB, in a field of 175+ international competitors who were all using AR15s.
My only recommendation is that if you do review a rifle, you won't do it justice if it's a gun whose history you don't know. It sounds like you are basing your whole feedback on a rifle that may have been abused or improperly maintained, and it's concerning that you're a third-hand user of it, with no idea how it was initially used or how many rounds it has already seen.
I'm still a big fan of your reviews though. We can agree to disagree on it - I'll edit my comment if or when I run into any issues with my RDB, but for now, it's my main competition rifle and hasn't let me down against other competitors with Bren 2s, Ravens, B&Ts and X95s. In my opinion, it's one of the most underrated rifles available to us Canadians.
We will certainly agree to disagree.
My main qualms with the rifle are not the reliability, that's why it was not the main focus of the review. All the other problems I had were.
If you use it thoroughly and have no problems, that's fantastic! There's no such thing as a rifle that suits everyone. If you watched long enough there was bound to be a review you didn't agree with :)
Also a Canadian. Also have a similar set up. Similar. I find it to be the best for transitioning around my range. The best ambi rifle I have currently. Ambi is a deal breaker for me. If I can't shoot both shoulders with a cheek weld I don't want it.
Also, I have a raven, siberian and wk 180. I wouldn't give you 10 cents for a truck load of wk180s. Trash. The bcl isn't that bad, it has some issues that need to be sorted out from a manufacturing standpoint. They're great to deal with. Love them. Don't love the semi autos yet but I will. My mrx bison and trx howitzer are pretty nice. The cz trail or scout whatever is a bit more refined because it's cz. These are cheap guns. I mean cheap. All of my cope rifles added up don't equal one of my cadex rifles. I dunno. They're toys and some people take this too seriously. If youre spending less than 3 grand and relying on it...well. that's not the rifles fault. It's like buying a used k car and hoping it will keep up to the corvettes. The boomer came out there.
Thanks for you contribution @jarvisadams2797. Will definitely consider it. Not the first time people disagree with Bats888.
Do they make the rdb in a pistol calibre for ipsc?
No. Kel-Tec makes the S2K PCC and that's it.
I have the RDB and Tavor X95. I love my RDB even though it's been back to the factory twice. The trigger is sweet and it fits me well because I am a Lefty.
Had mine for 6 years now and it's actually still holding up. But my x95 is still my go to
I want one because it looks like the DMR from halo reach
How is your gas system set? The RDB has a longer bolt travel than most 5.56 rifles. Closer to an AK. Except unlike an AK that ejects the spent case in the first half of it's bolt travel and then everything after that is just extra travel for no reason. The RDB's bolt, because of it's whole downward ejection behind the mag well, HAS to go ALL THE WAY BACK to reliably eject and feed. If it short strokes for whatever reason (typically because people set the gas adjustment too low), you're gonna have jams. Turn the gas system up.
Also am I the only one that doesn't get bothered by ejected brass? Like I've literally caught 5.56 brass coming out of an ejection port in my hand, and sure, if I just hold it for a couple of seconds it starts getting pretty hot. But having it simply hit my skin momentarily and bouncing off? It's never caused me any discomfort.
Except for a Mini14, that thing shoots brass out about as hard as it shoots the bullet. The danger zone on those is everything sort of, but not directly in front of the muzzle (Mini14 accuracy joke) and everything to the right of the ejection port. LOL
The gas system was tested on every setting. The whole gas system was fucked and needed to be replaced. My friend got replacement parts, I'm not sure if he's installed them yet or not.
Ill be VERY interested to hear your thoughts on the ASR.
Hey bats do you know if the sks adapter will let you use normal ar 15 7.62x39 mags in the gun if u have the adapter?
Yes, there is an adapter that allows you to do exactly that.
I bought one on a whim on a Saturday, several weeks ago, cancelled it on Sunday's sober second thought. I wasn't sure if I wanted to take the chance on keltec and further oic etc. I wanted a centrefire, but I guess I should look to the Raven.
Bad choice. Should have kept the rbd on order. Watch reviews. 2..3..4K rounds without malfunctions.
@@victoriousvictor7978 Mine get malfunctions every few hundred rounds
This screams operator incompetence all around.
I am no gun expert but I came to the same conclusion just based how he speaks. Umm..um I just don't like it ummmm...
Literally anyone can learn the proper manual of arms for any gun, no matter the design. The Sten gun is not a design masterpiece by an stretch, but people were still effective with it.
The flaws that I perceive in the video are in comparison to other firearms that are available and do not have those same flaws or learning curves. When we are talking about spending large sums of money, these are things that might drive some away. Thus are important to mention.
Also, the gun completely breaking and requiring parts replacements after less than 2k rounds without cleaning is not "operator incompetence."
was looking at 300 dollar red dots last night for my own keltec, an su16, when i stumbled across an old reddit post you made saying youve had a feyachi on all these guns you've put thousands of rounds through between all of them. so i ordered one on amazon. and here we are the next day and you post a vid of a keltec with a feyachi on it. funny coincidence.
I hope it works well for you. I've run thousands of rounds of 7.62x39, .223, and 9mm across 3 optics and they've all been great.
But who knows, maybe I won the cheap red dot lottery. If it doesn't work out, amazon's got great return policies lol.
These things sell for around $700 here in Ky...its definitely budget
Most everything you covered in this video isn't make or break so long as you can adapt your manual of arms, but the downward ejection is kind of a deal breaker, for me personally.
Sure, a truly ambi bullpup is a nice idea in principle, but in practice that's going to be nothing short of a bitch and a half if you wanna do any sort of competitive shooting, tactical shooting, malfunction drills, or larping.
I know, I know, these are all things that can be worked around. After all, there are some really high speed units out there that loved the P90 but the last thing I personally wanna worry about in the middle of shooting a match or having fun in the woods with the boys is having to take a knee and flip my rifle upside down whenever I have a stoppage.
As someone in Canada, who owned one before, save up and buy an X95.
why is that
@@spashirongenerally speaking Kel-Tec makes cheap quality stuff but unfortunately in Canada it’s expensive pricing
@Dingleberry345 2500k rounds threw mine so far without a single malfunction. And that's more so the case then not.
Idk man, I feel like most of the complain you've had are mainly comfort issues. Wearing gloves, adjusting grip, and buying 1 or 2 extra spare firing pins (for 10$ each) would fix 90% of your complains, and saying that it's as reliable as the wk180 or the siberian is just wrong. Great video none the less
mine was very unreliable, i had atleast 1 malfunction every 1-200 rounds
Well, this review didn't change my mine on my distaste of bullpups. LOL
It's all you "brother"...gun works fine...Get a Lucky Irishman 20 inch hand guard and you'll be happy with the extra length!