I have an ebike and recently got an EB150 that I charge with a few cheap solar panels. There's something so rewarding about doing most of your commuting with solely legpower supplemented by the power of the sun. I haven't plugged my ebike into the wall to charge once yet Love your idea about having the battery in the back on the crate with the small solar lid. Have that charge a spare battery while riding and ride forever!
Charging power limit of around 150W you mention about 5:30 in video, is not due to sun conditions, but it is because of EB70S charging limit of 8A. Solar panel is producing up to 9.7A at max power, and power station cannot use it. Solar panel by specs has 20.5V output at max power, so in perfect conditions EB70S can take up to 8A x 20.5V = 164W, so 150 and few watts is realistic maximum.
I charge my 2 motor, 2 battery, dual suspension E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown with an Off Grid TREK 220 watt solar blanket and an Elejoy adjustable controller. The controller with compatible cables and plug also comes from Off Grid TREK. the system weigh 14 pounds TOTAL! It easily fits in one rear pannier Not a cheap date but VERY reliable. I also have a BLUETTI AC200 MAX LPF battery for car camping and faster bike charging. .
I just rented a Rad Power e-bike. I like that it has regen charging when going down hill and using the brakes. It did recover a bar or two during the two hour ride I took. I am all fired up about getting a couple e-bikes for my off grid place and using solar to keep everything charged up. What is the range hit on these things when there are big hills to climb? I have hills a gravel roads to navigate….
Please look at a Lectric XP 2.0 ebike. Great build quality, service, and less expensive. Had mine for almost a year. Ride it everyday to work. Similar to this bike, but prefer Lectric.
I plan on a few over nighters with my ebike. I will be hauling a bicycle cargo trailer. In my cargo trailer I will have my tent, sleeping bag, camping gear a EB70S solar generator and a 120W foldable solar panel. My ebike presently gets about 80-100 mile range. When we stop for lunch, I will hook up my EB70S and my panels to my ebike, and do pass through charging.
Nice video, thanks! I have an older e-bike, and I recently got an EB3A. I haven’t gotten a solar panel yet, but I am experimenting with a dc power supply as a simulator. I plan to charge the bike, as well as my 60v Toro lawn tools from solar. The cumulative inefficiencies of the chargers and inverters kind of suck, but unavoidable at this point.
Pretty cool testing in this video! Creative application. Too bad you can't charge it while on the go :) Do you enjoy using an ebike? I have never tested one before.
I was surprised at how much I like riding this bike. I find myself going out for long rides now because it's just so much fun to go so far with so little effort. Definitely worth giving one a try!
Really interested in your planned milk-crate experiment with the Bluetti charging the bike while riding the bike and trickle charging the bluetti at the same time with a portable panel on the top of the milk crate. What was the explanation as to why you shouldn't do it? Was it their battery is the limitation or the controller or both? And what aspect or spec about them isn't rated for charge/discharge at the same time? I wonder what would need to be upgraded / replaced to do this?
@@todd.parker Thanks for the reply. Perhaps a battery that has better BMS integrated could handle it. I've seen a few youtubers do this experiment and it worked (though with different bikes?). If you decide to continue pursuing this experiment, respond back and i'll be interested to check it out!
You can trickle-charge your battery as you ride with it plugged into the EB3A. It will give you a longer range, just like having an extra battery. The companies tell you, you can not do it because they want to sell you another battery.I do not know how much it drains the EB3A but I know when I plugged my charger into the wall, then plugged into the bike and use the throttle only to try and drain the battery. The battery was still at full capacity after 30 minutes. I have the electric Expedition model, I just ordered the EB3A and can not wait to try it out
Why not just get an MPT-7210A Dc to Dc boost converter for $40 and charge directly off solar? That's what I use. I guess if you guys want to pay more money. Hey, it's all good.
It would really have been better if the EB70S displayed the charge in hours and minutes instead of the battery bars which makes me guess how long it will last.
I agree too, All SG's have short coming of some type (faults). I've spent the last month researching SG's. I just ordered a EB70s and a 200cv. All things considered (iron phosphate bat a Biggy) I'll live with a sub-par LED screen.
@@Allen-yv3ue Yeah, the EB70 is a super solid unit, just no frills. The new Delta 2 that was just announced is a big upgrade if you can afford it. I'm testing it now.
@@todd.parker Todd, my order is in. I've looked at Sooooooo many videos. Paramount is it's a ''solid unit'', in my world it's a lot of bucks - Hopefully well spent.🙂
No rear suspension would make it not so much fun after the novelty wears out. It looks like a tank and probably weight as much too. People who buy this type of bikes, like the look and don't care about the weight and efficiency. That's why you can only get ~20-30 miles from a 600Wh battery. But I can see how some will love it. It looks awesome.
You are wasting a lot of energy with a triple dc-dc-ac-dc conversion, you can improve efficiency by charging your bike battery with mppt buck boost set at 54.6volts. With this method you can directly charge the bike battery with the solar panel.
I have an ebike and recently got an EB150 that I charge with a few cheap solar panels. There's something so rewarding about doing most of your commuting with solely legpower supplemented by the power of the sun. I haven't plugged my ebike into the wall to charge once yet
Love your idea about having the battery in the back on the crate with the small solar lid. Have that charge a spare battery while riding and ride forever!
Whoa that’s impressive.
Thanks for the great review, nailing two complementary products in one. Really helpful news we can use. Happy trails 🙏🏼🐾🎶
Charging power limit of around 150W you mention about 5:30 in video, is not due to sun conditions, but it is because of EB70S charging limit of 8A. Solar panel is producing up to 9.7A at max power, and power station cannot use it.
Solar panel by specs has 20.5V output at max power, so in perfect conditions EB70S can take up to 8A x 20.5V = 164W, so 150 and few watts is realistic maximum.
I charge my 2 motor, 2 battery, dual suspension E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown with an Off Grid TREK 220 watt solar blanket and an Elejoy adjustable controller. The controller with compatible cables and plug also comes from Off Grid TREK. the system weigh 14 pounds TOTAL! It easily fits in one rear pannier Not a cheap date but VERY reliable.
I also have a BLUETTI AC200 MAX LPF battery for car camping and faster bike charging.
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This was a great review thanks also interested in the bike now even though I own two ebikes.
I just rented a Rad Power e-bike. I like that it has regen charging when going down hill and using the brakes. It did recover a bar or two during the two hour ride I took. I am all fired up about getting a couple e-bikes for my off grid place and using solar to keep everything charged up. What is the range hit on these things when there are big hills to climb? I have hills a gravel roads to navigate….
With a lot of terrain I’d guess 25 miles
Please look at a Lectric XP 2.0 ebike. Great build quality, service, and less expensive. Had mine for almost a year. Ride it everyday to work. Similar to this bike, but prefer Lectric.
Cool. Hoping I’ll get a chance to review some more ebikes
no suspenion and the battery is in the frame limiting expansion.
I plan on a few over nighters with my ebike. I will be hauling a bicycle cargo trailer. In my cargo trailer I will have my tent, sleeping bag, camping gear a EB70S solar generator and a 120W foldable solar panel. My ebike presently gets about 80-100 mile range. When we stop for lunch, I will hook up my EB70S and my panels to my ebike, and do pass through charging.
Cool!
I'm guessing you're carrying 2 or more batteries right?
Nice video, thanks! I have an older e-bike, and I recently got an EB3A. I haven’t gotten a solar panel yet, but I am experimenting with a dc power supply as a simulator. I plan to charge the bike, as well as my 60v Toro lawn tools from solar. The cumulative inefficiencies of the chargers and inverters kind of suck, but unavoidable at this point.
That’s great! The EB3A is a cool unit. Might be a bit small to charge bigger batteries but it if you add solar, might do the trick
Pretty cool testing in this video! Creative application. Too bad you can't charge it while on the go :) Do you enjoy using an ebike? I have never tested one before.
I was surprised at how much I like riding this bike. I find myself going out for long rides now because it's just so much fun to go so far with so little effort. Definitely worth giving one a try!
Not gonna mention the heibike's USB output being destroyed from the factory?
I saw that little bend while editing but the USB works fine. I wonder if I did that somehow?
I do like this power station except for the fact that it kinda charges slow when plugged in the AC outlet.
Yeah, it’s not super slow but this will be better once it gets the internal fast charger and new display from the EB3A
Really interested in your planned milk-crate experiment with the Bluetti charging the bike while riding the bike and trickle charging the bluetti at the same time with a portable panel on the top of the milk crate. What was the explanation as to why you shouldn't do it? Was it their battery is the limitation or the controller or both? And what aspect or spec about them isn't rated for charge/discharge at the same time? I wonder what would need to be upgraded / replaced to do this?
Unfortunately they didn’t give me details, they just said not to. I wish I knew more but cheaper BMSs can’t handle charging and discharging at once
@@todd.parker Thanks for the reply. Perhaps a battery that has better BMS integrated could handle it. I've seen a few youtubers do this experiment and it worked (though with different bikes?). If you decide to continue pursuing this experiment, respond back and i'll be interested to check it out!
You can trickle-charge your battery as you ride with it plugged into the EB3A. It will give you a longer range, just like having an extra battery. The companies tell you, you can not do it because they want to sell you another battery.I do not know how much it drains the EB3A but I know when I plugged my charger into the wall, then plugged into the bike and use the throttle only to try and drain the battery. The battery was still at full capacity after 30 minutes. I have the electric Expedition model, I just ordered the EB3A and can not wait to try it out
K. Watched to see the bluetti but I like the bike. Looks good. I have several ac200 models. Put bike in trunk n go for a spin looks great.
Yeah, I was very surprised at how fun the bike was. Just went for a 12 mile ride yesterday and had a blast
Why not just get an MPT-7210A Dc to Dc boost converter for $40 and charge directly off solar? That's what I use. I guess if you guys want to pay more money. Hey, it's all good.
It would really have been better if the EB70S displayed the charge in hours and minutes instead of the battery bars which makes me guess how long it will last.
100% agree
I agree too, All SG's have short coming of some type (faults). I've spent the last month researching SG's. I just ordered a EB70s and a 200cv. All things considered (iron phosphate bat a Biggy) I'll live with a sub-par LED screen.
@@Allen-yv3ue Yeah, the EB70 is a super solid unit, just no frills. The new Delta 2 that was just announced is a big upgrade if you can afford it. I'm testing it now.
@@todd.parker Todd, my order is in. I've looked at Sooooooo many videos. Paramount is it's a ''solid unit'', in my world it's a lot of bucks - Hopefully well spent.🙂
No rear suspension would make it not so much fun after the novelty wears out.
It looks like a tank and probably weight as much too. People who buy this type of bikes, like the look and don't care about the weight and efficiency.
That's why you can only get ~20-30 miles from a 600Wh battery. But I can see how some will love it. It looks awesome.
Yeah this isn’t a high performance machine but it’s super fun and goes as far and fast as I’d need it to
love your video thank you i have learn more about it
Glad it was helpful!
You are wasting a lot of energy with a triple dc-dc-ac-dc conversion, you can improve efficiency by charging your bike battery with mppt buck boost set at 54.6volts.
With this method you can directly charge the bike battery with the solar panel.
Can you actually bring this in a plane?
I don't think the battery can go on a plane since it's larger than 100wh lithium
Do you know if bluetti has upgraded there larger power stations like the eb3a
Not yet but hopefully soon!
@@todd.parker thank you Todd
@@todd.parker Thanks for answering me Todd.
Nobody cares about that what's bike? We just wanna know. Does the charge work for electric bike?
your usb looks broken
It kinda does but it works ok