Easy-Off Mosin Nagant stock refinish
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2013
- My Mosin Nagant M44 carbine stock finish was irregular and splotchy. So I used Easy Off oven cleaner to strip off the finish and remove cosmoline. This method does not require a lot of sanding, so there is little worry of changing the shape and contour of the stock. Linseed oil was used to refinish the stock. Watch the video and see how easy it was, and how it turned out.
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I watched this vid a few years back, and have done this process on several mosin/sks rifles and always comes out great! Most of the time i have to do the easy-off/rinse procedure twice to draw out all the cosmoline and impurities The only thing i do differently is use tung oil instead of linseed oil. My stocks are always pretty banged up, but i sand them down as well as possible and the tung oil fills in the deep gouges. Im in no way a pro, but my rifles come out so well after.
Finished product always leaves me smiling!
Jon with no H.. I refiinished my Dad's Winchester Model 12, 12 guage shotgun with linseed oil. we did everything you did and BAKED the stock in the oven at 150 degrees maybe overnight.. it came out awesome!!! Rick, Eagle River, Alaska
Great video. Never thought of using Easy Off. I had a hard time getting the old finish and oils off my Swiss AG42 rifle. It was not in bad shape but I didn't like the dark stain on the stock. Now after I lot of sanding 3 coats of the boiled Linseed oil, the stock looks so nice and feels smooth. I want to do the same thing with my other Swiss rifle the K31.
I used this method yesterday on my new mosin where the stock was caked. Worked really well with two applications rinsing and hand scrubbing between each application. I then followed up with formby's furniture refinish to get the rest out. 400 count sandpaper on the remaining wood. I'm applying several more coats of linseed oil today, but it already has a nice beautiful look and it is amazing. Thank you for this video.
That's great to hear yours came out so good. Thanks for confirming my experiment, and sharing your results.
Doing it NOW, your way with Easyoff. Thank you for the post. My project is working out well. I tend to be ... detailed so I'm sanding more for a finer, smother finish with out losing the stamps. Again ... thanks.! Great Vid!
I've been thinking of refinishing my M44 for years now but I've always been afraid to try, but you made it look so easy and it turned out looking very good I think I'll have a go thanks for the vid.
Good to hear bassistoftheyear , i hope yours turns out great,
stripped my mosin using this technique. It worked great. I just applied my first coat of boiled linseed oil. seems to be working just like in the video. If you let the easy off sit on the wood for 20-minutes it works great. I also used a plastic brush and water to remove the old finish.
Rainbowloom56 great advice, thanks for adding to the discussion.
Thank you friend! I'm starting my Mosin rebuild this week. I'm gonna use your method and thank you for the step by step process.
Dan Dan great , I hope it turns out well.
Easy off works wonders for removing finishes. I used to use it to remove anodizing from aluminum. The rifle looks fantastic Jon
This is about the simplest procedure I've found so far. I just bought a Chinese Mosin Nagant M-44 and hope to get half as good looking as yours. Thanks for the tips, I'll certainly be touching base before I start.
Good luck Chris Hunnewell I hope it works as well for you
Chris Hunnewell
looks like you have all the needed supplies. Good luck and enjoy.
Thanks so much for posting this, Jon. I have a 1942 Mosin-Nagant that I'm wanting to re-finish. I had thought about using Tru-Oil but I've changed my mind. Some dumby that had my gun before me tried to re-finish it with a paint brush. It just looks horrible. The work you did really brought out the natural beauty in the stock. Beautiful historic rifle!
Thanks for the compliment ***** , I imagine your stock will come out great too. Good luck.
Great vid! Your stock turned out really nice! Very informative with minimal amount of work. Thanks for sharing...
Thanks ErlefromVa I'm pleased with the results. I have had others comment that it has worked well for them too.
Im about to try this on my surplus rifle! Love this video, what a great way !
How did it go?
Thank you for the awesome video! I hadn't thought of using linseed oil to refinish my 91/30 but I see it's the way to go from your video.
I've been happy with linseed oil for many years, and it's easy to apply. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for posting this. I have been looking for an easier way to refinish my Mosin and SKS and bringing the look back to a some what Blonde look. You video really helps!
Thanks for your support. I believe it is easy to do, and results are great. Good luck on your projects.
So glad I searched this video up. Easy Off oven spray. Who knew? Excellent tip!
I want to do something like this with my Mosin Nagant but, I also like the finish that’s on it because it gives it that old stile look and feel.
Sounds like a great mix. I may try that one too. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
I did this to my Mosin and it did take all the varnish off . But I use a plastic putty knife to help it along. Haven't sanded yet as I don't have the right sandpaper. So Sunday. I will make a trip to home depot to get it. This was a lot easier then using other paint removers. I used the Easy Off that didn't have bad fumes to it. took a few more times till it all was off. It turned out ok. Still got a few spots that need sanding but that's for Sunday. Thanks for posting this. I will post a pic of the finished fully sanded stock when I am done.
You've just inspired me to do the same to my Mosin. I have my oven cleaner & linseed oil, and I'm about to get cracking. I hope it ends up looking as good as yours :)
Simon Cross Good luck with your project.
Thanks for the video! Your riffle turned out great! I hope to do this process within the next few months and I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks.
Good luck on your stock ***** It seems it works on most, but not all rifles. It certainly is worth a try, before you break out the sandpaper and get aggressive.
Great job! Now I am inspired to tackle my rifles.
Looks great. I never would have thought of easy off.
Just got my new Mosin in and have decided to refinish the stock, gonna give this method a try, your rifle came out beautiful;
I'd like to see yours when you are done The Texian Libertarian .Thanks for watching, Jon.
Trace..., learned this trick many years ago when surplus rifles were a lot more common, and diverse. I have not seen others on YT use this method, so I felt the need to share it.
I really like your method. I like the natural wood look as well. I’m gonna to refinish mine. Thanks!
Great job, love the wood grain on that stock. I have to refinish 2 of mine and the 3rd I'm customizing.
gonzalezfirearms I am pleased with how it came out, your results may vary , lol. Good luck on your projects.
Jon with no h shootology channel thanks! I just got done sanding it and prepping it for painting tomorrow. Can't wait!
Turned out great! Nice job
Glad you like it!
Bit late now. Started stripping and refinishing M1 rifles at Long Beach Marine Barracks. Have used Easy Off several times. Found that 2 or 3 coats of Linseed is a good base but for a better finish, use 3 or 4 hand rubbed coats of Tung Oil afterwards. It is a better and more durable finish. The linseed penetrates and refreshes the wood after the harsh Easy Off and age. Use OOOO steel wool between coats (wiping with a damp rag) then wax the whole rifle for better protection (all of the visible parts and areas). I enjoy cleaning up my Mosins as well. Thanks.
Sir,so strip,clean,linseed oil,Then tung oil as well? Then red mahogany 225 for my rifle. Another fella said he liked the wax finish better also. Thank you,Robert
I just finished mine pretty much using your steps. But I used Citiristrip instead of oven cleaner. It came out great!
Jriv193 I have heard of other folks using similar products to good effect. Thanks for sharing your experience.
To each his own. I too, live by the KISS theory. A really nice looking nugget you have there now.
J Sweatt Thanks, i like it too.
Thanks WP... glad to know you find it helpful.
Great vid man, never thought of using oven cleaner, last one I refinished I sprayed with carb cleaner.
I can see carb cleaner working, hope you give this a try and let us know how it compares Bob Boberson
Looks great. Going to try this on my Steyr M95...thanks!
that looks' great I will be redueing my 91/30 1935 stock it is black and red, so it is a restain job for sure a great post Brother we love our mosins'.
great video. i never thought of easy off. i'm not restoring a mosin-nagant, i'm working on an old marlin rifle stock, but as usual, i'm looking for the easiest way to get rid of the old finish. i'm gonna give your process a whirl. thanks. and as always:
semper fi, carry on!!
Thanks for your input John Hattabaugh I hope your Marlin comes out well.
I bought one from Big 5 and was cleaning the cosmoline off it and had the stock in some hot boiled water for 2 minutes...it not only took the cosmo off but the varnish as well...lol...it looked awesome so I went over it with pine tar and tung oil
Linseed oil is good stuff. Every time you clean the rifle just wipe the wood with another coat and it will last for ever.
Great info on Easy Off from all posters. Thanks.
I like the color. Great job.
Well done video, Jon. Thanks for sharing your process. I'm sure that took some time, so I appreciate it.
Sean O'Connor Thanks for your input. The whole project took a couple days between processes, but the total time working on it was not more than a couple hours.
Nice job!
Great job looks great!
Thanks docwilkey , I'm pleased with the results too. Thanks for watching.
thanks for the video,are stock came out really nice,,,also a nail brush works real good on oven cleaner to
+John Normile a brush is a great idea. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
It looks beautiful
Thanks chevy6299, that is a great idea to add linseed oil, periodically.
The red color in factory Mosin Nagant stocks comes from the fact that its usually a shellac finish. The Tula rifles have the most red color.
Great video. I might do this to my mosin nagant
Laj
looks great I might try this on my type 53 to make it not so ugly
Barbarossa..pine tar was a new one for me. Saw first video just weeks ago by Logcabinlooms. I like it, because it's old school. May give it a try some day. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
Thanks revolver8shot, I like the lighter color stock too.
plenty of videos showing HOW to clean the metal parts of a mosin, so few showing how to deal with the wood parts, thanks for making this video "jon with no h" or "john"
Richard Au Thanks for the kudo's, glad you approve. Thanks for adding to the discussion too. Jon
Beautiful job
Thanks shelley dupont for your kudos. Jon.
Jon-The Jon with no h Refinish Technique - with the EZ Off Oven Cleaner - nice!!
Thanks rls303, glad you found it enlightening.
gunnwild1, that's a good thing to know for aluminum. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
great job big change
Robert Beveridge Your stock sounds unusual , good look with your refinish, Jon.
stock looks nice.
I found after you use your stripper and it is ready to be removed. rubbing it with dry wood shavings really makes quick work of it.
That is a great tip, never considered anything like that. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
Very nice looking rifle you get there, I use Easy-off too...
Tommy Stone That's great, EO works like a charm on oily wood.
Jon with no h shootology channel
yep EO pulls all the cosmoline out of the wood and then I put a coat of Minwax red chestnut onto it...
This is a pretty ingeneous method. I wish I'd known about it a couple weeks ago. I did it the hard way. Mine looked like at some point someone had just slapped a coat of shellac over grease, dirt and everything already there. I had to apply a LOT of elbow grease. Then used tung oil instead of linseed, because it's what I prefer. You might also want to try Birchwood Casey's new Gun Stock Wax for a final finish. They've reformulated the wax and its results on top of a nicely oiled, rubbed & cured finish add an amazing deep but not overly glossy shine. Make sure to get the new formula.
Great video. Surprised me with oven cleaner. Beautiful job on the finish.
I use wife's old panty hose to spread and rub the oil. A man at the furniture shop (refinish) suggested it. Works great and does not leave any threads.
Looking forward to see your range time
That is a great tip Walter B Thanks for adding to the discussion, Jon
Hmmm. Can't walk in and out of target with just panty hose. maybe ill grab a mountain dew and a can of axe to look inconspicuous. thanks for the tip
I do, I buy new ones for her.
I used Cheese wrap on mine...it worked perfectly. You can but it really cheap at Walmart.
todd brooks that is awesome
Very very nice!!!!
Thanks. Starting the process sometime soon. I'll let you know how it turns out.
I'd be interested how it come out David Bilinski Thanks for adding to the discussion. Jon.
Just a quick tip for you; Don't use a rag to apply the linseed oil. Instead pour it on your bare hand and rub it in, using a fair amount of friction. The heat will help it soak in, then apply additional coats for a nice semi gloss finish. This is how we used to maintain the finish on M14 stocks in the service.
That's good info loboohio I used a glove to make cleanup easier, but I can see your method has been widely used for years. Thanks for adding to the discussion, Jon.
ive got 35 coats of boiled linseed oil one of my stocks and to does darken it up over time.
That's awesome Spelunker...I am curious if this works well with the Chinese stocks. i would like to see how it comes out, if you do a video. Thanks for adding to the discussion, Jon
Beautiful job! Thumbs up!~John (mine has an H lol)
Great great job
Looks great. There is a recipe on the CMP forum for "Gunny paste", its a mixture of BLO, bees wax and turpentine. Just rub it in and looks like original military.
Great mckwilly, I'd like to see how it turns out.
You did a an amazing job on that stock. What a beautiful rifle afterwards. Did you do anything to the steel parts?
good work bro, good information...
Thanks for stopping by and watching.
Nice job. Looks a lot better. I wonder if it does anything to the historical or resale value?
It’s quite the job to get the preservative off my 91/30 stock. I’m using hair dryer, and it’s a tedious process.
nice job!
Thanks +gunsandpigs
Jon, how long between applying coats of Linseed oil, an hour , overnight? Thanks in advance.
ColdWarWarriors I waited till next day for another coat. That allows time to soak in good, and cure a bit.
Liked the vid. Thank for the info.
Thanks for watching
Great tip with the Easy Off. I refinish all of my wood projects with the oldest and best preservative formula that is tried and tested. 1/3 Pine Tar, 1/3 Linseed Oil (I don't use Boiled Linseed Oil because of the toxic chemicals added), and 1/3 Turpentine. I heat up the wood first in the sun on in the car if it's cooler out and heat up the mixture too. I use this on all my axe handles as well and it looks amazing. This is the old Swedish recipe and what the Vikings used on all their ships.
i am a purist but i am fine with this change of the stock finish since the original is infamous for peeling off. just don't do any of those bubba tacticool crap, it's part of my country's history.
Glad you approve, my desire was to improve the finish, but not sand off markings or profile of stock.
Jon with no h
Fuck your country
@@allanragnarson7898 you ain't gotta be a prick, go back to your closet
Allan Ragnarson Someones a salty fuck.
The finish on my 91/30 is orange shellac ... most likely, so was yours. If you take it off with denatured alcohol, the grain doesn't raise. Wet a cloth, wipe it off, Keep using a clean surface for each wipe and continue until no more finish comes off. It is perfectly acceptable to simply rinse the cloth in fresh alcohol, refold it and continue working.
Shellac dries very fast and doesn't soak in very much at all. Sand only to smooth over scratches and remove dirt, being careful not to remove or lighten the stamped markings.
If you intention is to actually 'restore' a MN, re-finish with heavy cut orange shellac applied with a decent synthetic brush ... but move fast so as to leave brush marks deliberately. Slop it on ... in the run up to WWII, the guys in the factories were spitting these out as fast as they could. This is reflected in 1) the rough finish on the inside of the stock and 2) the crappy finish that was applied.
Shellac dries almost immediately and is field repairable, if desired. A brush, a box of the cheapest grade of shellac and a jar of alcohol are all the technology needed to apply it. Since it air dries in minutes, it was preferable to a more durable, but slower to apply and slower drying, oil or varnish finish.You could take anybody from behind a plow, hand him a brush and in 15 minutes completely train him.
It looks to me like you made a lot of work for yourself ... and those who follow your instructions.
Read the directions on the linseed oil next time. Working in a warm location SOAK the wood with the oil (thinned 50/50 with turpentine), reapplying wherever the wood absorbs all of it for about 15 minutes, then wipe off the excess and allow it to dry. If the wood is warm and the oil is warm, the pores of the wood will be more open and allow the oil to soak in deeper. Deeper is better. Same deal subsequent layers ... apply generously, wait till most of it has soaked in, wipe again with a wrung out rag just to pick up the excess and give it an even wet sheen. Dry again. Oil takes a long time to dry and build layers because each fresh application partially dissolves the previous application. But, in time and with care, you'll end up with a water resistant finish that moves with the wood (won't crack) and can be repaired simply by wiping with an oil-dampened rag over the damaged spot.
No ... I'm not a troll. I'm a hobby woodworker who takes great pride in putting a nice finish on a nice piece of work.
Thanks for adding to the discussion.
As a woodworker, what would you recomend for me to put a "grey" finish on it? like a light/medium grey on the wood, I think that would look awesome.
So, I'm in the middle of this right now got the stock set aside drying at the moment. Gotta say thank you for this video it really made it simple. hoping for a response about this, I'm try to choose between tung oil and boiled linseed oil which would you recommend?
+captindude I would use whatever you have on hand. I have used both. I like smell of linseed oil, and it is more old school.
Thanks, I did this to my 91/30 and it looks amazing now. I used less coats of oil as you but that is just a personal preference. But use gloves people! The easy off killed like 2 layers off skin on my hands and I was peeling off skin for a week!
OSU Bucks421 Gloves is a great idea, EO has some pretty potent chemicals.
+Jon with no h I used to use a lot of industrial oven cleaner when I had to clean a bunch of those grease filters/traps they hang above deep fryers in restaurants. Pay heed to Jon's warning; don't breath that stuff in - it will result in a coughing fit an I'm guessing its not good for your lungs in the long run either.
Oh my gosh this is gorgeous. Im gonna do this to my rifle all the same
I suppose EO will work on any wood gun stock? Like my 1970 Rem 870? Thanks, J
Surprised the BLO worked out as well as it did
the linseed oil will eventually turn red too. That's why the US switched to Tung Oil for their rifles. There are good articles on this on the CMP Forums and on Garand Gear.
Good info you have added, if my stock turns a bit more red, so be it , not a bother to me. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
Good job. I used furniture stripper rubbed with ,fine steel wool. Came off completely after 2 applications. Then I mixed linseed oil with turpentine 50/50. Put on about 3 coats. Make sure you let it dry well which may take a few days.
poochie49 sounds like a great alternative method. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
wouldn't that work also on cleaning the cosmline out of the bolt?
Great overview .... what a lovely grain ...... and I agree with your opinion on the original finish .......
Bit of Forrest Gump thing ..... you never know what you're going to get ?
Jack Wall Thanks for your kudo's , I am quite pleased with the results too
Informative video, I am glad I came across it. It did however leave out one important detail that left me asking; how long do you let it sit/soak with the Easy Off before you scrape?
10-15 seconds is usually all it takes. If you wait too long the oven cleaner will start to evaporate and the shellac will resolidify
@@jonwithnoh7 I finished mine, and I am thrilled with the results! Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
Generally the Russian rifles had shellac finishes...no need for using caustic easy-off, when you can easily strip the stock with plain ole' denatured alcohol. I think using DA is way easier.
Just got me a Mosin. Gonna try this when I get the tax money in. Thanks for this, cause right now, after cleaning off the gunk, the wood's original finish is peeling off. :/ Not pretty at all, but this makes it look pretty dang good.
Your rifle sounds a lot like my mosin as it came. Hope it turns out great, good luck , Jon
thanks alot, this will be very helpful for me. how long did you wait till you started scraping?
You can begin scraping within a half minute or so. If you wait too long, the solution will dry out, and have to be reapplied. Good luck.
I have a question for you what year is your m44 carbine I have one of the trial variants from 1943 and one more question do you happen to know how to get cosmoline out of a mosin nagant oil/solvent bottle because can not get the stuff to come out of the bottle
i have the 91/30 was just out shooting it today i would love to get the carbine hopeful soon
The shorter carbine just felt better to me than the full size rifle. Good luck
thats what my gun store had at the time but have seen them at a gun show for around 350
Thanks FC45LC, did not consider a name for it, just wanted to share my technique.
can you wipe the easy off off with a rag or anything else? or would you recommend just a plastic scraper
Just wondering if this changes the resale value since it changes it's original battle used look.
Thanks for the video! I want to redo my stock, bad. Looking into different ways but the scratched “red varnish” has to go!
I want my stock to smell like clove but oil. Would it be ok to give the stock 5 coats of clove oil?
Is there any other finishing oils out there that can make the wood dark again.. I've used oven cleaner on multiple rifles and man I just feel bad for the finish afterwords... the rifle is awesome with linseed but looking for another variant. Let me know. Thank you in advance!