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The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs | The Backstory | The New Yorker
I've been taking Seroquel 150mg-250mg (increased gradually over the years) for 4 years. The last couple of weeks my heart has been literally freaking out at night. I absolutely have to taper. It has helped immensely over the years but I feel my mind and body no longer need it. I started with 250mg to 200mg, no withdrawal symptoms. Now I'm on 100mg and notice severe insomnia. I'm admittedly nervous about more side effects. I'm staying in prayer. LORD JESUS, HELP all of us through this time 🙏
Hello everyone, this comment was made 3 weeks ago! I successfully tapered off by April 28th. I noticed that my insomnia only lasted a day or two so I continued to taper every 3-4 days and noticed no other withdrawal symptoms! I feel better and my heart is always beating peacefully. I stayed in prayer and Jesus walked me through it 🙌
You have done well
How are you feeling today? My husband is 7 weeks off this poison Seroquel he was on 500mg for 22 months he started having seizures at the beginning of the year so in March we started weaning him and he took his last medication July 24. Sadly seven weeks off he has depression I think he’s hearing voices so I think he is having withdraw psychosis possibly. Omg this is stressful. By the way he was put on this poison because of severe alcohol withdrawal.Never before in his life he ever experienced anything like what he went through after he quit drinking alcohol
@@cindywright14 Yes Seroquil has ruined my liffe, my son thinks i'm a loser and I can't get a grip socially, it's like i've been in a coma for 12 years
I got on it when my wife wouldn't quit cheating on me and i couldn't handle it
@@jordanplathstone7373 you will get through this so DONT give up. Take it slow wean slow and NO Caffeine especially when you get off it can make you manic. My husband takes TONS of vitamins B Vitamins are good. Praying for you.
People are having their rights taken away and are being forced to take mind altering drugs against their will. It’s a violation of our basic human rights
@Amber Walters nope, incredible amounts of people are getting shafted by the legal system and the psychiatric system in the modern day, by the excessive marketing of big pharmaceutical company tactics of inventing an injectable anti-psychotic, and now there are entire communities chalk full of these blooming number of unconsenting adults who are forced, against their will, to take drugs that aren't even proven to improve lives over the -long- term as opposed to the same day listed effects of the drugs such as in the DSM V
@Amber Walters They can court order it
conspiracy theorist... part of the problem.
The problen is that people don't understand, that a young, sometimes not adult person, that has a psyche destroyed by her family system, that is dependent on them and doesn't know what's happening to him/her is being put in a psychiatric hospital, as maybe an alternative to being homeless or being put in jail, is de facto being forces to take those medications. And throught the rest of her life nobody helps her to find a way to heal and nobody helps to reduce those drugs, but encourages her to take them or even sonehow forces to.
@@hol-upLIL-bit do some research and youll see the truth about antipsychotics
My wife has been in and out of the mental hospital 5 times in the past year and a half... We made the decision to stop the psych meds and I took her to a hormone specialist and boom what do you know hormones.... She's back to her normal self after 3 months with no psych meds and hormone therapy...
The psychiatrist should have checked her hormone levels. This is common protocol.
Psych medics, doesn't erase root problems. They usually worsen the situation, create even more imbalance in the brain, and make a loop by doing that.
Is OBGYN qualified to check your hormone levels? Can you write more about it please?
@@MrAvaraa Can anti psychotics make psychosis appear I mean does it actually increase it
You should taper of them, how long have you been with the med?
There's an article in the Belgian newspaper right now that says 1 in 3 elderly people in retirement homes are prescribed anti-psychotics *off-label* . You know, to calm them down or for sleeping problems. Absolutely disgusting.
Yes , I've even seen a video on UA-cam where a nurse claims haloperidol shots are helping them to "pass easier"
Off-label?
They can lead to sudden death in elderly. It's in the papers with medication.
Better to never get on them!!!
YES!!!!
Too late to say
It's a really well written, well-researched article on this phenomena. All too prevalent in this society, the idea that pills can fix all that ails us psycho-emotionally is a dead end street for many people.
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But they help this article is dumb
@Guy Whose opinions will offend you Yeah you can say that, i'm damaged by just taking 4 weeks of antipsychotics.
These drugs are the final bastion for someone who's potentially become a psychopath in future, not for bipolar nor even depressed person, on the other hand schizophrenic might be the perfect candidates, but they should've given them the risks and benefits information before taking the meds.
@@jl1695 How do psych meds help?
@@billybandyk0720 also its not like a covid vaccine that took under a year, these psych meds took 20 years at least to get fda approved and studied by doctors scientists and chemist.
Getting off Paxil almost killed me. That drug and Effexor drop out of your system SO FAST that withdrawal symptoms can be brutal. (Prozac stays around long enough not to do this) PLEASE, if you want to quit psych drugs, learn about how to taper off safely! A great article BTW.
And Zoloft ! I'm tapering now it's brutal . I never had this on Prozac .
@@debbietaylor20 how are you now? I still have these symptoms after a year. I only took Zoloft for only 3 month (+1 months tapering off).
I was withdrawn quickly after 11 years on it. I still live with the symptoms 13 years later!
How do you feel now that you are off medication?
@@adams546 how do you feel now that you are off medication?
Doctors who prescribe these drugs should be in prison.
They really should. They are criminals who torture and kill people with these drugs for money.
Yes and no. If it's given to people forcefully then yes. If it's done by their will, why? They dont know any better. We cant be lazy on our minds these days. We have to check informations given to us. We're not longer children to listen to others without being responsible for who are we listening to
@@kolarz2128 so I'm supposed to trust the internet over my doctor of 25 years?
Yessss so true. I have the awful experience 😢😢
@@kolarz2128 Most people are mislead and tricked into taking them by their doctors. Doctors are responsible for telling them of the risks and pseudoscience behind these drugs not the patients.
I got off of antidepressants, and now am having some issues dealing with it, physical, a year later. So the suggestion is, to try another drug...I'm really hesitant about that
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How do you feel now that you are off medication?
I’m planning on going off my psych meds soon 16 years is too long
Did you?
Same
23 years of meds I hate it
I just stopped taking my meds and all my symptoms went away tonight so here’s hoping
I live in Indonesia. One day I wrote a comment on Medicating Normal's UA-cam channel or was it Mad In America?, asking how to quit Depakote and Risperidone, not expecting anything just because I was desperate, but the admins replied with the link to Laura Delano's website for tapering psychiatric meds "The Withdrawal Project". Tremendously helpful. Life saving.
Why isn't there an interview with her? When I was watching this video the vibe I got was that she took her own life. Just found this format odd....
Yes, I expected it to end with an announcement of the woman's suicide. Maybe some deep googling is in order.
Read the article if you have the time, it's totally worth it and you get to read a lot of her inner thoughts throughout the years and up to present day.
yeah i thought the same thing-- she kept being referred to in past tense exclusively
Yes i think she ended her life
@@Lanja1991 no she didn't
Laura is awesome. I've been using The Withdrawal Project for about a year. My son is on olanzapine & he needs to come off
I was on olanzapine for four years and sometimes I think of how different life would be without it. It’s a difficult drug.
I went off of it cold turkey and it’s very challenging.
Olanzapine should be taken only if you have schizophrenia. It can cause diabetes, high cholesterol and weight gain
I want to get off meds and do psychedelic therapy
Going on Zoloft changed the course of my life -- for the worse. I let my psychologist pressure me into it.
Dont trust these people, they destroy lives. They're criminals who want to turn normal people into patients for profits. Psychiatry is not science.
I know the feeling and, yes, antidepressants and antipsychotics ruined my life.🥺
Me too
I feel like Laura Delano's story is happening to my daughter. I tried to warn her but she trusts the psychiatrist more.
That’s a shame. I hope she’ll see the light soon. To her, mom “doesn’t know anything”, I used to be like that, then I grew the heck up.
My only comment is that sometimes you got to let your kid go and suffer through their metamorphosis into an adult, just be patient and they’ll come back like the prodigal son. Wishing you the best
I’ve been off my meds for a couple of months and had zero withdrawal issues or problems. I’m bipolar but honestly have been better both physically and mentally without them. I know this won’t be true for everyone but we need to seriously consider medication as a secondary option.
You are a blessed one,God is in you
@@radhul463 no he is not. Because there is no god.
Don't label yourself as something.
@@FoxinTaiwan I can label myself how ever I want. I might suggest not telling other what to do.
How did you do it , because i am taking risperdal for 4 years , and i have tried to stop taking the drug i get always horrible witdrawal symptoms and the worst one is that i cannot sleep
Too real.
1:50 - (Allen Francis) The reporter doesn't mention that the DSM-4, 5, whatever has BigPharma execs on its editorial board. It might have been outside the scope of her report.
She does talk about it in the article.
I read the article yesterday, I wish it was published last year, when I was trying to taper off.
Avoid psychiatrists and the so called mental care systeme. Its evil medicine
@@clausmehl8731 omg yes, they are literally just experimenting on people. I’m reading this book called Mad in America by Robert Whitaker and it’s talking about the history of what they do to people with mental illness in America. Medications are not natural and there should be a focus on more natural ways to treat mental illness.
Thank you, Laura Delano.
God bless u Laura and her friend advocating for her and love for thy self ty ps I have anxiety n everyone always tells me I won't live a good life unless I'm on anxiety meds. But why so I can b tired ?
I'm coming off of 30 years of psych meds very slowly
I am on two anti psychotics which I need for my bipolar disorder but I do feel like our modern society is over medicated. This was very interesting.
Bipolar is trauma.
You don’t need to be on antipsychotics for bipolar disorder and maybe you’re not even bipolar. People get misdiagnosed by psychiatrists all the time. They have to put something down on your insurance billing form to get paid. A diagnostic code. They really don’t care care what they put down on there as long as they get paid. And then they’ll give you a drug to go along with the diagnosis just to make it all look legit and to make more money by getting you to come back regularly for prescription refills. And by the way, it’s already been medically documented that if you take antidepressants that can easily make you hypomanic which is exactly what happened to me and it happens to many other people. And after that happens they put you on the really heavy duty drugs like lithium carbonate for example which is a drug that destroyed my entire life. So even if you were bipolar it might have been caused by the other drugs they gave you in the past. Just for your information. I’ve done a lot of research on all this
I agree. The people I know who are type 1or 2 or whatever nonsense they want to call it have been through traumatized childhoods. Environmental issues need to be treated in a way without inducing chemicals into the human brain and altering the structure we've been blessed with.
Medications save lives wat u talking about
@@urbansetter1 …and?
I decided to quit cold turkey. Seroquil, trazadone, veneflaxine, bupropion. I can’t eat, if I drink anything other than water, I throw up. But I know this will pass.
I have tried many times to get off risperidal i failed because i cannot sleep , i have been taking them for 4 years , my doc gave me valium and risperdal i stopped taking valium 5 months ago and i succeded it was very hard though , but i am stil on riperidone 2 mg in the morning and 2 in evening , i really dont know how to stop taking them
@@baicamarian I don’t know about you, but I’m more upset that I wasn’t told about how bad getting off my meds was going to be. It’s worse than drug withdrawals! It sounded all fancy, take these pills and live a normal life… but to me, it was way worse. Always sedated, not being able to process emotions like sadness or grief or joy. Just a monotone life…
It’ll be worth it. You’re better off without the poison.
Been there done that, now i have problem with my bowel movement and mild akathisia
I quit taking aripiprazole after I feel suicidal and spend money on Xbox One Series X. I fought my feelings and didn't go to the hospital.
11years off, still not myself, I wish i never took them
what symptoms remain?
@@capresti3537 alot I name a few now. burning pain,tense, numb in the middle brain somewhere. memory imparied, emotional numb somedays, somedays upspeeded like adhd, down and up depression caused of numbness. anger easy, cognitiv reduced, brain fog. somedays difficult to communicate lost social life cause of that. pssd, tiredness but better now doe. all the negativ thougts and emotions attacks.
@@puramuk I am 10 years off, my head squeezes like a vice like grip and i got weakness all over, vision problems and more. These so called doctors ruin a lot of lives with their pseudoscience. They should be in jail.
@@capresti3537 yea my head too, always burning,tense, then numb
@@puramuk Have you tried anything that helps?.
I hate antidepressants so much omg my life got worse. I wish I never took them
its often cptsd
It's a prison like decades of solitary
well after taking effectin i started to have spasms, or tremors and i have it all the time, (althought i dont use it for nearly 5years) when i think or see something bad. You fix something, you broke something.
The scientologists' pharma-phobia is not nearly as irrational as it first seems.
(This is not an endorsement of scientologists or their views.)
Yes, that Tom Cruise interview about Brooke Shields.
where can i find that website?
Thanks for sharing....so is Laura completely off meds now? I've tried and managed a year but then ended up crashing again so I'm really curious to know. I'd like to not be fixed on meds like i've been but I'd like to know how to stay in check and maybe reach out for meds 'intermittently' as I might need them. I don't feel like it has to be an all or nothing situation...hmm
Yoga, meditation, journaling, becoming aware of how the people around you treat you that might not be good… just become aware… of everything that affects you. Pay attention. How to bring yourself peace, calm. Walking. Self expression- write, sing, art
This is my story exactly.
Im on Abilify Maintena injection of 40 milligram. How long until my side effects go away? (Akathisia)
7:00 a self fulfilling prophecy for sure. 100% agree
I am weaning off Buspar, started it in February life sucks more n more
I got off of buspirone and am now doing yoga, deep breathing and taking homeopathic supplements like ignata amara and gelsemium to manage my anxiety.
Hei!, I try to get off risperidone too😅Im taking 0.5mlg morning 0.5 mlg at nigh but when im on just 0.5 at night ,I cant sleep,i have insomnia ,so im currios ,i need to stay up all nigh for some days a d then it will bee ok ?
My daughter took 2mg Risperidone for a year then tapered off for a month and she felt bad even months after that. Maybe the tapering was too fast for her, I don't know. But it's different for every "body".
I’m bipolar : Been on meds for 25 years and I’ve attempted to live off them as well. I find it better on medication.
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Which meds? I'm thinking maybe it's better to be on Seroquel than off.
My healthy, mind and life are ruined because of these drugs 😭
I have literal cortico-subcortical atrophy that doctors refuse to treat because they are backing each other up
Currently coming off quetiapine i want my raw self back
update pls
How did it go, Lauren?
@@fburt100 really well actually! No anger or anything like that! Lost weight however, struggling with the blues! How are you?
@@BulletLauren how are you getting on now if you don't mind me asking ? Currently in the process of reducing my quetiapine also 🙏
whats the link for the withdrawal website?
The Withdrawal Project - Inner Compass Initiative
I have a similar story
I can't believe the way you advertise these drugs in the USA like their candy although in the UK they prescribe then like candy , I'm Tapering off of zoloft now oy six months on it three months trying to come off it took it for panic attacks and Anxiety.
They need to test your thyroid (full panel), look for autoimmune disease, etc. Changing one's diet helps, too. it's sad that so many people, like you, trust the person prescribing the medication.
It used to be illegal to advertise prescription meds here in the USA. The laws changed in the late 80's or early 90's if I recall correctly.
Some people like myself do really need them and at the same time I agree with this. I’m not against psychiatric medications, but I am against how Big Pharma operates in the US and they shouldn’t be able to air their cheesy commercials on tv to the general population who is uneducated about these meds. They should be decided on equally and carefully with a patient and their doctor, and there shouldn’t be an incentive to “push” any specific med.
Forced treatment must be abolished
what bs i have schizophreniia depression adn anxiety disorder i never took psych meds untill the age of 37 i was going to be homeless in order to get housing i had to go to the state psych hosptial and was forced to take psych meds against my will my father was also schizophrenic he never took psych meds he worked all his life painting housess my sister has mentall illness she is 54 she never took psych meds she works as a word processor my mom had mentall illness she also never took psych meds she was on ssi adn lived with my dad they did not get government housing at the age of 37 i called section 8 i tried not to go to the state psych hospital but section 8 told me there was a 4 years waiting list
spanish talking countrys dont talk about this... is too dificult to taper here in Argentina... doctors dont have a clue
How are drugs supposed to help with these mental disorders
I started taking off risperidone 4 mg for a week. I'm still on flupentixol once every two weeks. I try to update this comment every month and share my experiences on withrawal. I'm diagnozed with bipolar type 1 disorder!
10 days. So far so good. feel more happy and socialize better than before. more sensetive. less restless. Also taking anti-appetite stimulant pills. No problem.
No major problem. taking only valproate sodium 500 and lithium 300. تا حالا که مشکل خاصی وجود نداشت.
Lesson 1. Never Fight with any creature. درس اول: هرگز وارد نبرد نشوید
Lesson 2. Act normal
Lesson 3. Don't overload your mind with feedbacks
I have been on zoloft 200mg since 1993 for panic attacks ptsd n ocd etc now its removed not able to get it as of today ??????????????DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW SAFELY GET OFF THIS N BE OK I HAVE WENT OFF NOT BY CHOICE N HAD MORE PROBLEMS THEN WHEN I STARTED
Getting off it after long term use can be extremely difficult. Has to be done very slow, can take years to get off it.
tcmomcoffey
Ask for help in the surviving antidepressants org forums.
A good strategy will probably be to taper very slow the drug.
Best wishes.
some people have schizophrenia much worse then others with schizophrenia some have bipolar disorder much worse then others with bipolar disorder etc etc
There is no such thing as "schizophrenia" or "bipolar".
I've the half of my life anti psychotics and the last psychiatrist told me that politics isn't ready for me without meds. All I had was an American dream / psychosis / ego in the Netherlands.
Please Arjan, elaborate
Zorgmachtiging?
invega has ruined my life. im now infertile and emotionless. ive been off for 3 years now. will try and make it to 5 years before taking my life, but i am not hopeful
I'm so sorry!!! :'(
How long were you using that?
Jesus will heal you, ill pray for you. I am coming off latuda atm and it aint good, might have to switch back to aripirazole for a bit but hoping to taper off too. I know God will heal my though, im sure of it. Hang in there lovely!!!
Try cbd
I pray you get better ❤️
I’m getting off them idc.
Did you successfully get off?
My husband became worse after his shrink reduced his dosage.
There will be withdrawal symptoms if you taper off the drugs too fast.
I think they design them that way to keep people hooked. Evil.
I’ve been on psych meds since I was 12 and I still take them and when I’ve forgotten my withdrawals made me want to die.
How are you now, I hope you get off these or have gotten off by slow tapering
Beautiful looking girl x
Rachel Aviv oyyyyy
Thank god medical weed exists
@Togal rip to.you but I'm different
Yea weed eventually caused my anxiety and panic. I smoked it for years but it finally did me wrong. 🤷
There is a LOT of talk about coming off medication, but there is NOTHING said about how people handle their underlying condition once they are off their meds.
Or how they are doing 10 years down the road?
Why is this?
Because it's all nonsense that's why. People don't like to admit they have a mental illness, so they pretend it's all some conspiracy between psychiatry and the drug companies.
@@JohnSmith-ys4nl I believe a lot of that is true!
@@montesa9136 Yep. I have bipolar type 1 myself so I am not coming as some neutral observer. I know what it's like and I know it's dangerous for 99% of people to be off meds. If they don't commit suicide, then their lives are going to be a wreck.
@@JohnSmith-ys4nl My life was a wreck on the meds also. I developed dozens of serious medical illnesses while on the meds. I'm now just looking forward to physician assisted suicide .....
Check out, "Your Drug May Be Your Problem." It's a great read that may answer your question.
Why the creepy overtones?
Do not play music in the background.
Folks I have two adult children with mental challenges, one being coupled with ALS2 (Stephen Hawking) My son is rapid fluctuating bipolar disorder. My daughter with the dual challenges I believe has Schizophrenia. Based on her thought patterns! I have treated? them both with CBD oil and the results have been MIRACULOUS!!!! I first gave my daughter CBD and an hour later she wrote me this message, "Daddy my muscles feel very calm and at last MY RACING THOUGHTS HAVE CEASED"!!!!!!! My son's response after 30 minutes, "Dad Ive waited most of my adult life to feel this well in my mind"!!! Powerfull testimony!!!!
What cbd oil did you get for them? And what percentage did they start of at, particularly your daughter?
@@kerriesmith7903 Natures Nutrients CBD!!!!!!
Lmao
someone has to sell their house to buy a tiny bottle of CBD...
So what happened to her, did she recover off meds?
You don't always HAVE to come off. I've been on Sertraline (Zoloft) for 13 years and I never ever plan to come off. It's changed my life.
Did it give you erectile dysfunction?
We all think like you until something happened to our health and then we don't.
Actually these can kill a full grown dementor (colorised, pun intended)
Please add Greek to subs. Thanks
don't freak out. you are a good person, i agree w/ that FULLY. i also have good faith intent. but can this title change? your title does not even stay within the lines of the definition/s of Psychiatry - AND there is not 1 drug called a "Psychiatric drug",/yet ALL DRUGS AFFECT ANY PERSONS PSYCHY, thus the title/name "drugs" Water/Sugar/Table Salt/ Red Bull are all psychiatric drugs, including any atoms of matter whatsoever, that will/does change the physiology of any human (&/or animal/plant /or Fungi). so i am not sure what the title means "The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs". im not even going ( into/ nor against/ nor in favor) of the intended points, in this video, i'm sure your intent/s are the same as mine or yours or OUR/s, cool, i agree with those things. Take this as a HELP to Better me/us/or your, and no you are not bad, you are good. i agree w/ that too. although... take some sugar with this, cuz its... but its all ok & good.
Doctors shouldn't prescribe these antidepressants. They should prescribe a personal trainer for 3mths.
= Healings 2022=
= Me & My biologic=
The Challenge of Going Off?? dont look at.. concentrate on the words, Possible Challenge/s of Tappering w/ the intent of quiting, to quiting, drug/s that are some-times prescribed by psychietrists.. and then edit the sentence down to , so you don't have to "GO OFF" on my water "abuse", what i call me drinking water, BUT NOT TOO MUCH ALL "AT ONCE" OR AT THE SAME TIME.
These meds can actually save lives, the thing is, you are not talking about the side effects these meds can cause. As a person who takes them I feel what you have described in the video to be true. But if it was not for the meds I would not have survived.
@Targetta You're ignorant. The suicide rate with some mental disorders is extremely high.
You’ve been brainwashed Mohd. By the psychiatrists who are brainwashing you to make money off of you. You would have survived. In fact your chances of surviving are much greater if you’ve never taken a psychiatric drug in your entire life. Suicidal ideation and suicidal attempts are well-known side effects of many of the psychiatric drugs. But the psychiatrists will never admit that it was the drug that caused you to want to kill yourself. They will just try to make you think that that was something you would have wanted to do anyway. The only times in my life I was suicidal were the times I was on psychiatric drugs. When I wasn’t on any of these drugs I was never suicidal. Do some research. These people are lying to you. They are lying to all of us. They’re criminals. And killers.
The problem 2 things:
-The complete lack of informed consent in psychiatry.
-The routine drugging of people without their consent on psychiatry.
Your personal good experience does solve either of those problems.
Good for you they almost killed me.
It's like saying food is bad for you because the side effects lead to obesity
And obesity leads to death.
Medication ambulance hospital firbrigade police food drinks
10 years is nothing
why dose it make it seem like she died. is she I mean I don't even know lol
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Это конечно круто отказаться от всех лекарств и забыть о побочках. Но что делать психбольным которых родственники уговаривают буквально пить лекарства. И они в какое то время наконец то начинают лечиться? в моей стране нет ни аддерала ни других психостимуляторов. бензодиазепины получить очень сложно. Многие лекарства просто запрещены законом.
when u stop a dangerous uneccesary psych meds u have to gradually lower the dose ever week its very safe to come off psych meds
Its not safe at all to come off psych meds, its is extremely dangerous. You dont know what you're talking about and speak complete nonsense.
I can tell you have no idea what your talking about.
Its is you who has no idea what your talking about.
Take your meds Lauren.
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wtf
Wtf?
You should take some "meds" instead. Enough to make you a vegetable 🥦🥬🫑
She doesn’t need “meds” and she never did. What’s wrong with you?
Rachel has too much vocal fry...….can't focus...can't listen...I think I need meds.