He's dumb-as-fuck! There is a lot of omission & reductionism & inconsistency, this video is about agenda-setting. More specifically, going dark AWOL primitive with his neuro-linguistic programming with the addition of the subtle dehumanization and demoralization campaign. He's creating a hierarchy of survival of the fittest for his audience blaming me them. It's also economic, ecological and psychological. Really, you never learned that you can't build a relationship on dishonesty or is it futilitarianism because that makes more sense. I'm unsubscribing anyway, only joined in because of the arch content. There's plenty of that elsewhere. Boundary & representation matter idiot, you're crossing a line when you start creating trauma around it.
A brilliant mathematician who advocated for living well. God damn it TK, why did you have to turn to violence. Such an underhanded, short-sighted maneuver that completely undermined his message.
He could’ve brought attention to himself and his message without killing innocent people. He made some good points, but Ted was a narcissistic sociopath who rationalized his murders with philosophy. He was always mentally disturbed.
well he was stupid to think he could fix it by interacting with it. it can only be cured through total destruction, which is inevitable. he was doing the right thing by ignoring the cancer that is the matrix. he should just have kept doing that and gotten a wife and kids. only land and wombs have any value. that is the only things that count as wealth.
It's interesting how most scifi stories/movies will depict an advanced civilization where the people are in full control of technology, & use it to face adventure & challenge. When in reality, humans are too easily controlled by our own technology that instead we use it to escape from real adventure & challenge. With things like Nueralink, I fear that many will choose to "resolve" these issues through a transhumanist philosophy. That our human nature & desire will be judged as inefficient, & thus redundant, in the pursuit of technological progression.
I think it is ultimately how these technologies are constructed are aimed at disempowering the user. Perhaps I am wrong on this however I suspect this started with the Apple Macintosh as the OS and the hardware was locked down and no changes or modifications could be done by the user compared to the earlier Apple II computer. Given how successful Apple (and with hardware particularly which is a tough nut to crack compared to software solutions) has been and how other public companies want to follow its model. We have the ability to create the digital library of Alexandria where everyone can be able to find, locate and research/enjoy anything thanks to things like advanced search algorithms, cloud computing, advanced/fast networking systems. However these things are walled off requiring payment and how these systems work are intentionally left vague and hidden. Ultimately we have become dependent on these systems and these systems have amazing potential to truly revolutionise how humanity lives and can augment our abilities to incredibly heights. However these companies profit off of us wasting our time as well as locking down the software/hardware we use. I see hope in the Free Libre Open Source movement and hopefully this philosophy spreads elsewhere into academia. I am not delusional to think this is the panacea for us however I am confident it can push humanity into the right direction.
Not to mention that the sense of "ownership" is disappearing, no longer things belongs to you directly, increasing the sense of powerlessness. Such things as CDs are replacing by cloud, "Smart" products can be useless by any typo in code from jerk Devs, even smart cars, for "security", can leave yours inoperable at companys will.
its not the technology. its the goals of the society creating the technology. at the moment, all our technology is basically aimed at one ideal. MAKE MONEY. we are sold little trinkets, baubles, to keep us entertained, and not despair so much as we waste our momentary existences on working for some nameless entity to buy things that we are brainwashed to need... if we had a society that actually believed , and attempted to achieve food for all, roofs for all, clothes for all... raised to not fight, argue, but agree, work together... but we dont. we have arbitrary lines in the sand. imaginary borders that we fight over, snarl at each other over. we covet that little bauble we worked so hard to get, hide it away, mine mine minnne! make land mines... yet also make artificial hearts and kidneys. try to "prolong life" and tell us we "live longer than ever" yet fill more and more retirement homes with unwanted uncared for lonely people with dementia, alzheimers, cancer... "oh but we will cure that..." as long as you have money. will pay. have family that will pay. and its never cured, its just long drawn out death, series of operations ad treatments... all very expensive... and why is this long life so precious, other than for unknown, un-named, faceless entities to... MAKE MONEY? naw. this society in itself just has the wrong morals, the wrong mindset. technology is great when used properly.
@3zzzTyle commonality isn't technology Medival society was miserable for all but a few there are so many things wrong with his theory that people who don't take 2 seconds to open a history book seem to parrot
I highly recommend you "Technological slavery", a compilation of in-jail writings of Ted. In there, he doesn't condone surrogate activities at all, he criticizes that people use them as their ultimate goal in life, because "is not enough"
sounds cracked ngl. like he would go up to socrates and say "you're engaging in a surrogate activity. that's bad". or say that reading the iliad is bad because it's s surrogate activity.
@@intenzityd3181 how is reading the iliad a pursit of a great artistic work? a pursit of a great artistic work just means making something. not just consuming it.
I discover Ted's Writing in 2021, and it changed my life since. He hit me during my quarter life crisis. And now, my life goals is to become less dependent to the Industry. But sure, I'll still code, but I'll use my coding skill in ethical way.
One thing that I'd argue is part of it: the idea of utopia itself. Many have assumed it's some perfect society, or even better than that, if it was even possible. However, if we look at the literal meaning of the word, it translates as "no place" or "nowhere." Apparently, Thomas More wrote the book Utopia, which is where most of us find the concept, as a satire. Plus, there are some really unusual concepts in the book, the first being that Utopia is an actual physical place; atheism is still frowned upon, because it's seen as saying that neither punishment nor reward exists; a universal passport is required to live in Utopia, and not having one can lead to serious punishments, especially considering there are no lawyers. Also, there's little to no privacy in More's vision; almost everything is in plain sight. There's more, but I won't get into it. Keep in mind too that More was a devout Catholic priest, which I'll let you make your own judgments on, but the more I think about it, I think he was basically saying that not only is the idea of "Utopia" likely impossible, it's probably not that desirable either.
I've often thought that what most people think of utopia is not something that would be good. this makes much more sense that it was originally satire.
I disagree that city living is necessarily soul numbing. Maybe in some cities, but I've never been as happy as living in Wien. A walkable city, that has many local communities gives you a lot of freedom and fulfillment.
@@wersabwersab6923While these cities are better designed, they still lead to super low birth rates and the collapse of the extended family structure. It's ironic that urbanisation, which brings people together, drives families apart.
I am someone who comes from the Tech world and I can positively say that the general population would be much better off without tech. Although some technology is good, too much is detrimental. Good technology is essentially being used as a trojan horse to get people hooked on detrimental technology.
You probably going to end up on a watchlist but thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on this essay with us. My old man had a saying (it’s translated to English but you’ll get the point) “When you eat, do not eat the silverware nor the plate but only the food” It’s the same with everything, take only what you find useful from something, and of course take the time to digest it ;)
It isn’t technology it’s a people and personal problem imo. Theirs always going to be people that don’t like to go outside even before computers and electricity. Yeah technology may have exasperated the problem but it’s not like your iPhone is physically stopping you from putting it down for a hour or two and go for a walk. I spend a lot of time outside not connected to the internet you just gotta realize it’s not a big deal.
i think its just that modern society is making technology more and more compulsory so we get used to using them in normal life rather than choosing a healthy choice; ipad kids are really a product of bad parenting where the parent gives their kid an ipad rather than actually talking to their child. Or using Discord as a means of socialising rather than actually socialising irl.
I think one of the contributors to the problem of our mental state now a days is the meritocratic mentality. People of the past would've taken care of people with disabilities, old people and people with illnesses, despite they may not ever prove useful to their community. This behavior also can be seen in animals with social structures as they also tend to take care for weak among themselves. They share mentality of no one left behind. But now we tend to think of billionaires as a hard workers and people who haven't been that fortunate or successful in live as a losers as if they deserve their situation.
Ted also mentioned this, an industrial society HAS to break down nuclear units such as families to be efficient. If big families and communities stay together, they will have to forget about the system's efficiency in exchange for the community. Noticed how big families suddenly broke down, members going to the city until they are all separated?
Yeah you want to know why nowaday peoples biggest problem is mental health it's beczuse we discovered it existed and in the past unless you where upper class you would be fucked if you where disabled
Technology actually started great, no DRM, open standards Once people realized they could monetize everything, they decided to go haywire We once again ruined something that could have been great
@@EricMurphyxyz We let a bunch of psychopaths ruin and run everything. That is the problem. Even if we were to revert to pre industrial revolution. If people do not stand up they will mess that up too.
idk, primitivism or anything like it ends when the tooth pain begins. or more apt when people start smelling the shit. these types of videos and books are good for people how haven't heard differently or who have never thought about these things before. but if you've put in more than a passing thought into this topic then I don't think what the book has to say is that meaningful. and dare I say what he's saying is wrong. like ancient cultures absolutely feared aging and death. it just wasn't in the forefront of their mind that much since they had a bunch of other shit to worry about. you think the people during the black plague didn't fear death? you think the people who where first colonizing america and died due to the cold didn't fear death? And I don't even disagree that tech has had a lot of negatives for us as a species. but these negatives where always there to begin with. they just weren't as obvious as they are now. I think what you said about having more independence is good and is something I've started to realize about a few months ago. but I don't think the primitive stuff is the way to go either. modern life has taken away freedom but it's not like the primitive life doesn't do that either. if you're spending all day trying to survive, find shelter, and find food then you no longer have the freedom to explore or have ambition/aspirations. I just think you can still get a lot of fulfillment from modern life with out having to embrace the primitivism stuff.
Video was great until the end, when you confirmed an idea which all the video was criticizing: Capitalism, you stated that by getting a job you could evade the system and boila, You're free! Couldnt be further from the truth, because high skill involved jobs exist for a reason, and as someone that encourages online privacy so much you know that information is money... So while you make a penny boss makes a grand. This mere fact has made this time the most unequal. The solution is not to propagate lib propaganda, the solution is to help more people realize of the current state of things in data era. So besides the fatal flaw at rhe end it was a good startig video for people to investigate more into politics and social studies.
I view human history as a Greek tragedy, where two equally valid but opposing views never get really settled except by a deus ex machina. This issue about technology is a perfect example of us needing it (even if it's just a simple arrow to hunt) but also needing to curtail its effects, and there being no universal criterion on how to do so. Once we've admitted the arrow, we will try to improve upon it and will (eventually) end up with Chat GPT. We can definitely spot the harmful effects of some technology, and will perhaps put a temporary cap on it, but as long as there is no universal agreement on what good and bad technology are, there is no stopping this. We all know that the nuclear bomb is of no benefit to human life, and yet here we are with thousands of warheads ready to go off as soon as someone makes a stupid decision. I think these remedies you mention are great for the individual (just make sure your hobbies require real physical effort and not just clicks of the mouse/keyboard), but there is no remedy for mankind. Our innate instinct to be a part of the pack/machine is the main reason for this. Sadly, there is no deus ex machina to come down and solve this for us.
life under nature rather then technology is as out of your controll and seeing your loved just die without having enough food or die of cold or get ill of some poisoned shroom. you either live in tech civilization without privacy or live in primitive society without your loved ones because they died of bad hygiene and or starved to death or is died of cold. so idk sounds like you have skill issue tbh
Lmao, that's why they're schizos at their best. Getting the benefit of technology but still wanting to get rid of it; they don't even offer any alternatives to replace technology. How hypocritical are they?
To be fair the unabomber grew up in the hippie generation where experiments with communes were springing up everywhere. However I bet he even couldn't imagine how much environmental damage could be done in a single generation. I agree living off the land would be impossible now unless there was severe drop in population.
TK and others like him are essentially eco-fascists because their ideal world is only possible with the mass death of billions of people. There's no putting the genie back in the bottle with 8 billion people, so his ideology, while containing some interesting philosophical points, is ultimately a practical dead end
this is precisely how I think, I don't think he's fully wrong but at the same time I don't think we should be quick to swing one way or another, its the same how I thought when others did a video on the unibomber, I think there is a very healthy balance between the two which I think he doesn't take into account, a great first step would be to quit relying on tech for everything. brew your own coffee instead of having a coffee maker do it every morning for example. instead of buying bread or noodles, make your own. grow your own vegies and fruits, I also don't think having hobbies is that bad which is also slightly contrary to his ideas. I mean ever since we could, kids and adults would invent games and dances and such and hobbies is just a full extension of that. its just we should start seeing hobbies as "fun things we do" rather then "replacement for fulfillment" and that's only where I think he loses people a little(including me), you can still enjoy technology, video games, other hobbies but also remember some of those things can also be a detriment. understanding that already gives you more power and freedom. the first thing to fixing a problem is understanding that there is a problem, after all. another question i have to ask is is technology really the problem or is our obsessive use of it the problem?
i think you can get fulfillment from stuff like video games. it's just not in the way most would see it. it comes from things around the game usually than the game directly itself.
I bless people that make real book summary + resume like you. I don't have time to read entire books but I still would like to do so. And even so, I would never have known the books and it's idea without you talking about it. Thanks.
No matter the downsides, from my point of view technology was never a mistake. You can never imagine the satisfaction a man can ger from successfully building a retro handheld console feom scratch using raspberry Pi or being able to build and fly a RC Aircraft from scratch or being able to make your ownpaintball or airsoft from scratch using 3D printers or making amateur rockets or going the extra mile and making those rockets computer controlled (again using Raspberry Pis) or designing and tinkering with your own self-designed PCB circuits. The fun and ecstasy a man gets from doing all this is just unimaginable. And all of this also leads to further advancement of society at large in fact
"How about another joke, Murray?" "What do you get, when you heat water and use steam pressure to move pistons, generating energy?" "YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE." **Civilizational collapse**
I think impossibile goals can be achived in my opinion ted manifesto depends is alf right and alf wrong in othet ways it dipends on different subject prespective because every one of us is different in goals , emotion ecc
Enough to where we can still use our own brains and interact with each other face-to-face, right? Also, I think the only advance tech I could somewhat accept, or at least review and debate, would be tech for surgeries or something along those lines. Like instruments scientists, like chemists and such, use to take measurements. More accurate measurements, you know? Correct me if I am wrong. But tech like internet, tv, and all that, yeah. 2008-2021ish.
I strongly disagree with some of your comments in the section starting in 12:56. Your videos are targeted at the laptop class with email jobs, and dismisses away the people with jobs in the physical economy that make your lifestyle even possible. Your digital nomad life is dependent on hundreds to thousands of people doing other jobs that don't allow them to be digital nomads. This is why, fundamentally, this techno-libertarianism view of the world is a dead end and will not result in liberation for ALL the way that socialism would
The thing Ted ommit was aesthethic dissinterest, the one Raymond Bayer recognized in pre historic artifacts' remains, so survival instict, and the instrumentalization of the surroundings are not the only inherent human being characteristic
Technology isn't the problem, it's that we were too clever and developed it much too quickly, thus not allowing our nature to adapt to it. Had it been a thousand, or ten thousand years instead of roughly a century, we'd be in a much better place, mentally and emotionally, with our technology. As it is, we're just apes with smartphones; smart apes, but just mere apes, barely containing outdated instincts. As it stands, while one can rail against the decadence of modern life, the very fact that you can even sit here and complain about it is the height of decadence. You are so freed from just trying to survive, be it from hunger, disease or somebody trying to off you for any number of social/political/tribal reasons, that you can sit there and ponder "gee, maybe all of this was a mistake". No, it wasn't. Having the sum total of human knowledge at your actual fingertips isn't a mistake. Learning more about the universe in the last few months than had been learned since the rise of man until a hundred years ago isn't a mistake. Having a society that has enough free time to talk to people across the planet in real time because you're not trying to not be eaten by some predator isn't a mistake. If you can afford to sit there and complain about how technology has freed you, you can better spend that time doing literally anything else that isn't trying, in some foolish way, to destroy it for everybody else. Despite the blackpilled doomer nonsense, nobody is forcing you to be isolated and alone. That's your own doing. You need social connections that are in real life? THEN DO IT. You need to burn energy? Then do it. The problem isn't technology. It's you, as a human. So do what humans are best at; adapt and make your own happiness.
LOL. The problem has _always_ been humans, "adapting" to "make their own happiness." The issue here, _now,_ is that we've effectively snared ourselves into a technocratic dystopia, super-charged with the crystal meth of Neoliberalism, of Profit At All Costs, hyped as a moral imperative. Technology in and of itself is neither good or bad, but in the hands of damaged apes cursed with an oddly-advanced neocortex and a hard-to-control Amygdala (pre-programmed from earlier epochs), well...this is the world that you get.
you know what? I just realized that what you where talking is something I've heard from Dr.K and Destiny (Steven Bonnell). They've both mentioned how people nowadays feel way more mentally depressed even though they have a lot of their physical needs taken care of. They even mentioned the fulfillment point. But where they differ is the solution. they said that people need to have more problems/conflicts that they choose in life vs ones that are just thrusted on to them (active vs passive). that if you have more active challenges you start to feel better and more fulfilled. vs if you just have passive ones. it's why some rich kids can still feel extremely fulfilled while other ones feel empty.
You missed the entire fucking point. You are so oligophrenic and intellectually stunted that you should be put in a zoo -- as an example of what not to be.
@Ek-up6ut it can actually. Your worth (economically) is determined by your skill in a field, if you're better than others in that field, you're worth more. As simple as that.
No, Capitalism is amongst many problems of which technology is the real root of. Most of the horrors Ted spoke of have exist set and will exist in socialist countries.
@@Krusader- ted literally doesn't understand what socialism is, his manifesto has a "this is why leftists are losers" section lmao And frankly, most of the problems he mentioned are a result of capitalism comodifying people into products, if there is no profit to be made, i doubt that this would still be a problem.
@@A_Box i mean any career is about climbing up, and secondly there is a harsh competition between companies, and so basically it is hard to find good job. But thing is when people talk about jobs they mean jobs like doctors, teachers, scientist those people will be always demanded but thing is there is no career in such jobs, it means you won't raise anywhere. Jobs where career is possible are painfull as f...k. The question here what you want. If you want career, prepare your a55 to stressful situation, learn to survive. If you want stable job and beneficial for society then be a teacher, engineer, or professor etc
@@Hoonter101 Thankfully I do have a job but the situation is still absurd. Also, if you ever tried to get a menial job while also having qualifications, get prepared to be rejected as well for being over-qualified. There is really no assurance of anything anymore.
great video. always good to hear these points again as a refresher. funny but i believe the lack of religion comparatively has or will have some bad effects on society. its funny because im not religious or spiritual
how strange people so bright and intelligent commit such stupid actions to prove their point.. it's not first time and actually Ive seen quiet a few times that is incredible to something as dumb as me, in one hand is brilliant on the other hand he became a dumb ass in way he choose to make a point to others
There is a very thin line between me and Ted Kaczynski because i do not feel hopeless nor powerless, i feel as powerful as a great general or a world leader because i have gotten to the idea that scaring people out of comfort and shaking the world awake can be done by a single man with dedication even before hearing of him. The only difference is that i wouldnt pick my targets as sloppy as he did
When I was in ninth class, my English teacher said "Mobile phone has destroyed human values" I remember I was be like in mind "Hey, what nonsense you are taking about" It was about seven years ago, the things are more worst, now in India Internet is more cheaper, every family have own phone, everyone busy in phone.
I wish I had a skill that enabled me to work from home or remotely, I am a tradesman truckdriver and HVAC air pump repair / installer so I am locked into the grind so to speak, I wish I had tried IT but then again I often hear people say if you didn't have a natural curiosity and interest for programming and did x projects before starting to study you will not go far from junior positions but oh well I can dream about it at least.
This guy has evolved from doing web dev tutorials to enlightenment
Literally son of Luke Smith
Honestly I think anyone in this game goes through this phase 😅.
He's dumb-as-fuck! There is a lot of omission & reductionism & inconsistency, this video is about agenda-setting.
More specifically, going dark AWOL primitive with his neuro-linguistic programming with the addition of the subtle dehumanization and demoralization campaign.
He's creating a hierarchy of survival of the fittest for his audience blaming me them. It's also economic, ecological and psychological.
Really, you never learned that you can't build a relationship on dishonesty or is it futilitarianism because that makes more sense.
I'm unsubscribing anyway, only joined in because of the arch content. There's plenty of that elsewhere.
Boundary & representation matter idiot, you're crossing a line when you start creating trauma around it.
A beautiul thing
Dark Enlightenment?
A brilliant mathematician who advocated for living well. God damn it TK, why did you have to turn to violence. Such an underhanded, short-sighted maneuver that completely undermined his message.
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution
But thus he drawed a lot of attention to him and his message, which, otherwise, most likely wouldn't be noted.
He was a subject of mind-control experiments. (I'm not making that up. Check it out.) This is what screwed up his decision-making.
He could’ve brought attention to himself and his message without killing innocent people. He made some good points, but Ted was a narcissistic sociopath who rationalized his murders with philosophy. He was always mentally disturbed.
Because he was an egoist.
Plain and simple.
He was right and I’m tired of pretending he wasn’t
committing domestic terrorism is never right.
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@@anonemoose102fuck society
It is @@anonemoose102
well he was stupid to think he could fix it by interacting with it. it can only be cured through total destruction, which is inevitable. he was doing the right thing by ignoring the cancer that is the matrix. he should just have kept doing that and gotten a wife and kids. only land and wombs have any value. that is the only things that count as wealth.
It's interesting how most scifi stories/movies will depict an advanced civilization where the people are in full control of technology, & use it to face adventure & challenge. When in reality, humans are too easily controlled by our own technology that instead we use it to escape from real adventure & challenge.
With things like Nueralink, I fear that many will choose to "resolve" these issues through a transhumanist philosophy. That our human nature & desire will be judged as inefficient, & thus redundant, in the pursuit of technological progression.
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great.
I think it is ultimately how these technologies are constructed are aimed at disempowering the user.
Perhaps I am wrong on this however I suspect this started with the Apple Macintosh as the OS and the hardware was locked down and no changes or modifications could be done by the user compared to the earlier Apple II computer.
Given how successful Apple (and with hardware particularly which is a tough nut to crack compared to software solutions) has been and how other public companies want to follow its model.
We have the ability to create the digital library of Alexandria where everyone can be able to find, locate and research/enjoy anything thanks to things like advanced search algorithms, cloud computing, advanced/fast networking systems. However these things are walled off requiring payment and how these systems work are intentionally left vague and hidden.
Ultimately we have become dependent on these systems and these systems have amazing potential to truly revolutionise how humanity lives and can augment our abilities to incredibly heights. However these companies profit off of us wasting our time as well as locking down the software/hardware we use.
I see hope in the Free Libre Open Source movement and hopefully this philosophy spreads elsewhere into academia. I am not delusional to think this is the panacea for us however I am confident it can push humanity into the right direction.
Oh don't worry about it it, with an incompetent shitstick like Elon at the realm, neuralink isn't going anywhere
Sci-fi has generally been written by transhumanists who have a warped and degenerate understanding of man and nature.
Not to mention that the sense of "ownership" is disappearing, no longer things belongs to you directly, increasing the sense of powerlessness. Such things as CDs are replacing by cloud, "Smart" products can be useless by any typo in code from jerk Devs, even smart cars, for "security", can leave yours inoperable at companys will.
That's why we should all encourage downloading Linux torrents
@@THApeanutMagician how can i do it ?
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
@@THApeanutMagician A good move but not enough :(
@@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob The first one is really nice
its not the technology. its the goals of the society creating the technology.
at the moment, all our technology is basically aimed at one ideal. MAKE MONEY.
we are sold little trinkets, baubles, to keep us entertained, and not despair so much as we waste our momentary existences on working for some nameless entity to buy things that we are brainwashed to need...
if we had a society that actually believed , and attempted to achieve food for all, roofs for all, clothes for all... raised to not fight, argue, but agree, work together...
but we dont. we have arbitrary lines in the sand. imaginary borders that we fight over, snarl at each other over. we covet that little bauble we worked so hard to get, hide it away, mine mine minnne!
make land mines... yet also make artificial hearts and kidneys.
try to "prolong life" and tell us we "live longer than ever" yet fill more and more retirement homes with unwanted uncared for lonely people with dementia, alzheimers, cancer... "oh but we will cure that..." as long as you have money. will pay. have family that will pay. and its never cured, its just long drawn out death, series of operations ad treatments... all very expensive...
and why is this long life so precious, other than for unknown, un-named, faceless entities to...
MAKE MONEY?
naw. this society in itself just has the wrong morals, the wrong mindset. technology is great when used properly.
USSR didn't try to make money and still poisoned land and people, inside and outside its borders.
The common factor is technology, not muh capitalism.
@3zzzTyle commonality isn't technology Medival society was miserable for all but a few there are so many things wrong with his theory that people who don't take 2 seconds to open a history book seem to parrot
Really interesting video. The antidote to an aimless existence is to set difficult goals that take a reasonable time to complete. This is so true.
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
I highly recommend you "Technological slavery", a compilation of in-jail writings of Ted. In there, he doesn't condone surrogate activities at all, he criticizes that people use them as their ultimate goal in life, because "is not enough"
I've been meaning to read that eventually as well
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
sounds cracked ngl. like he would go up to socrates and say "you're engaging in a surrogate activity. that's bad". or say that reading the iliad is bad because it's s surrogate activity.
@@weirdo3116 No because that's not how he described surrogate activities. The pursuit of great artistic work isn't a surrogate activity.
@@intenzityd3181 how is reading the iliad a pursit of a great artistic work? a pursit of a great artistic work just means making something. not just consuming it.
I discover Ted's Writing in 2021, and it changed my life since.
He hit me during my quarter life crisis. And now, my life goals is to become less dependent to the Industry. But sure, I'll still code, but I'll use my coding skill in ethical way.
In what ways, just for curiosity, are you going to code in an etichal way?
reject soy dev, embrace minimized technology
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution
Reject technology, embrace survivalism.
Vim + terminal
Typed on a iphone* you people preach this stupid shit and don't even do jt
Based
One thing that I'd argue is part of it: the idea of utopia itself. Many have assumed it's some perfect society, or even better than that, if it was even possible. However, if we look at the literal meaning of the word, it translates as "no place" or "nowhere." Apparently, Thomas More wrote the book Utopia, which is where most of us find the concept, as a satire. Plus, there are some really unusual concepts in the book, the first being that Utopia is an actual physical place; atheism is still frowned upon, because it's seen as saying that neither punishment nor reward exists; a universal passport is required to live in Utopia, and not having one can lead to serious punishments, especially considering there are no lawyers. Also, there's little to no privacy in More's vision; almost everything is in plain sight. There's more, but I won't get into it. Keep in mind too that More was a devout Catholic priest, which I'll let you make your own judgments on, but the more I think about it, I think he was basically saying that not only is the idea of "Utopia" likely impossible, it's probably not that desirable either.
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
I've often thought that what most people think of utopia is not something that would be good. this makes much more sense that it was originally satire.
I disagree that city living is necessarily soul numbing. Maybe in some cities, but I've never been as happy as living in Wien. A walkable city, that has many local communities gives you a lot of freedom and fulfillment.
It's mostly an American problem, mostly in modern cities not like Viena and Budapest.
@@wersabwersab6923While these cities are better designed, they still lead to super low birth rates and the collapse of the extended family structure. It's ironic that urbanisation, which brings people together, drives families apart.
I am someone who comes from the Tech world and I can positively say that the general population would be much better off without tech. Although some technology is good, too much is detrimental. Good technology is essentially being used as a trojan horse to get people hooked on detrimental technology.
You probably going to end up on a watchlist but thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on this essay with us.
My old man had a saying (it’s translated to English but you’ll get the point) “When you eat, do not eat the silverware nor the plate but only the food”
It’s the same with everything, take only what you find useful from something, and of course take the time to digest it ;)
It isn’t technology it’s a people and personal problem imo. Theirs always going to be people that don’t like to go outside even before computers and electricity. Yeah technology may have exasperated the problem but it’s not like your iPhone is physically stopping you from putting it down for a hour or two and go for a walk. I spend a lot of time outside not connected to the internet you just gotta realize it’s not a big deal.
I think technology really enhanced our inherent nature.
i think its just that modern society is making technology more and more compulsory so we get used to using them in normal life rather than choosing a healthy choice; ipad kids are really a product of bad parenting where the parent gives their kid an ipad rather than actually talking to their child. Or using Discord as a means of socialising rather than actually socialising irl.
R.I.P uncle ted...
I think one of the contributors to the problem of our mental state now a days is the meritocratic mentality. People of the past would've taken care of people with disabilities, old people and people with illnesses, despite they may not ever prove useful to their community. This behavior also can be seen in animals with social structures as they also tend to take care for weak among themselves. They share mentality of no one left behind. But now we tend to think of billionaires as a hard workers and people who haven't been that fortunate or successful in live as a losers as if they deserve their situation.
Ted also mentioned this, an industrial society HAS to break down nuclear units such as families to be efficient. If big families and communities stay together, they will have to forget about the system's efficiency in exchange for the community.
Noticed how big families suddenly broke down, members going to the city until they are all separated?
Yeah you want to know why nowaday peoples biggest problem is mental health it's beczuse we discovered it existed and in the past unless you where upper class you would be fucked if you where disabled
Technology actually started great, no DRM, open standards
Once people realized they could monetize everything, they decided to go haywire
We once again ruined something that could have been great
Once the marketers discovered the internet it was over
@@EricMurphyxyz We let a bunch of psychopaths ruin and run everything. That is the problem. Even if we were to revert to pre industrial revolution. If people do not stand up they will mess that up too.
idk, primitivism or anything like it ends when the tooth pain begins. or more apt when people start smelling the shit. these types of videos and books are good for people how haven't heard differently or who have never thought about these things before. but if you've put in more than a passing thought into this topic then I don't think what the book has to say is that meaningful. and dare I say what he's saying is wrong.
like ancient cultures absolutely feared aging and death. it just wasn't in the forefront of their mind that much since they had a bunch of other shit to worry about. you think the people during the black plague didn't fear death? you think the people who where first colonizing america and died due to the cold didn't fear death?
And I don't even disagree that tech has had a lot of negatives for us as a species. but these negatives where always there to begin with. they just weren't as obvious as they are now.
I think what you said about having more independence is good and is something I've started to realize about a few months ago. but I don't think the primitive stuff is the way to go either. modern life has taken away freedom but it's not like the primitive life doesn't do that either. if you're spending all day trying to survive, find shelter, and find food then you no longer have the freedom to explore or have ambition/aspirations. I just think you can still get a lot of fulfillment from modern life with out having to embrace the primitivism stuff.
Video was great until the end, when you confirmed an idea which all the video was criticizing: Capitalism, you stated that by getting a job you could evade the system and boila, You're free! Couldnt be further from the truth, because high skill involved jobs exist for a reason, and as someone that encourages online privacy so much you know that information is money... So while you make a penny boss makes a grand. This mere fact has made this time the most unequal. The solution is not to propagate lib propaganda, the solution is to help more people realize of the current state of things in data era. So besides the fatal flaw at rhe end it was a good startig video for people to investigate more into politics and social studies.
I just love how Gilgamesh didn't have fear of death and didn't need go on a whole journey just to get rid of it.I mean so true
such a great video.
would love to see more philosophical videos like this.
start a farm like mental outlaw
EDIT: i made this comment a second before he brought up mental outlaw
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
I view human history as a Greek tragedy, where two equally valid but opposing views never get really settled except by a deus ex machina. This issue about technology is a perfect example of us needing it (even if it's just a simple arrow to hunt) but also needing to curtail its effects, and there being no universal criterion on how to do so. Once we've admitted the arrow, we will try to improve upon it and will (eventually) end up with Chat GPT. We can definitely spot the harmful effects of some technology, and will perhaps put a temporary cap on it, but as long as there is no universal agreement on what good and bad technology are, there is no stopping this. We all know that the nuclear bomb is of no benefit to human life, and yet here we are with thousands of warheads ready to go off as soon as someone makes a stupid decision. I think these remedies you mention are great for the individual (just make sure your hobbies require real physical effort and not just clicks of the mouse/keyboard), but there is no remedy for mankind. Our innate instinct to be a part of the pack/machine is the main reason for this. Sadly, there is no deus ex machina to come down and solve this for us.
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
Atomic bombs exist and would probably work great as a deus ex machina.
life under nature rather then technology is as out of your controll and seeing your loved just die without having enough food or die of cold or get ill of some poisoned shroom. you either live in tech civilization without privacy or live in primitive society without your loved ones because they died of bad hygiene and or starved to death or is died of cold. so idk sounds like you have skill issue tbh
Facts💯
Lmao, that's why they're schizos at their best. Getting the benefit of technology but still wanting to get rid of it; they don't even offer any alternatives to replace technology. How hypocritical are they?
Rise up real humans
Thank u i really needed this video in my life🤘
The first step to go into the forest is to switch to vim and ranger ;)
vim + ranger + gruvbox color palette!
Did bro said getting shelter is easy
I don’t know man, I feel like I’m living a very fulfilling life, and it is thanks to technology
could you elaborate?
Stockholm syndrome
As I watch this Firefox wants to update yet again, for the fourth time this month, and I sigh quietly
Uncle Ted was right smh
us while watching this on technology looking for entertainment
To be fair the unabomber grew up in the hippie generation where experiments with communes were springing up everywhere. However I bet he even couldn't imagine how much environmental damage could be done in a single generation. I agree living off the land would be impossible now unless there was severe drop in population.
TK and others like him are essentially eco-fascists because their ideal world is only possible with the mass death of billions of people. There's no putting the genie back in the bottle with 8 billion people, so his ideology, while containing some interesting philosophical points, is ultimately a practical dead end
this is precisely how I think, I don't think he's fully wrong but at the same time I don't think we should be quick to swing one way or another, its the same how I thought when others did a video on the unibomber, I think there is a very healthy balance between the two which I think he doesn't take into account, a great first step would be to quit relying on tech for everything. brew your own coffee instead of having a coffee maker do it every morning for example. instead of buying bread or noodles, make your own. grow your own vegies and fruits, I also don't think having hobbies is that bad which is also slightly contrary to his ideas. I mean ever since we could, kids and adults would invent games and dances and such and hobbies is just a full extension of that. its just we should start seeing hobbies as "fun things we do" rather then "replacement for fulfillment" and that's only where I think he loses people a little(including me), you can still enjoy technology, video games, other hobbies but also remember some of those things can also be a detriment. understanding that already gives you more power and freedom.
the first thing to fixing a problem is understanding that there is a problem, after all. another question i have to ask is is technology really the problem or is our obsessive use of it the problem?
i think you can get fulfillment from stuff like video games. it's just not in the way most would see it. it comes from things around the game usually than the game directly itself.
This was a very good watch 100% agree with the unabomber
I bless people that make real book summary + resume like you. I don't have time to read entire books but I still would like to do so. And even so, I would never have known the books and it's idea without you talking about it. Thanks.
Things you own ends you owning you -Tyler Durden
Music is incredibly hard and no amount of technology will help you. This is a satisfying and rewarding goal yet difficult to master. I recommend.
Uhhhh.... I'm pretty certain I've heard Britney "singing" without pitch correction, and it ain't pretty at all.
Very good video. I didn't expect this kind of content from a tech channel I randomly found while looking up stuff for Linux.
Luke Smith much? It's quite interesting btw!
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
No matter the downsides, from my point of view technology was never a mistake. You can never imagine the satisfaction a man can ger from successfully building a retro handheld console feom scratch using raspberry Pi or being able to build and fly a RC Aircraft from scratch or being able to make your ownpaintball or airsoft from scratch using 3D printers or making amateur rockets or going the extra mile and making those rockets computer controlled (again using Raspberry Pis) or designing and tinkering with your own self-designed PCB circuits. The fun and ecstasy a man gets from doing all this is just unimaginable. And all of this also leads to further advancement of society at large in fact
I personally blame democracy instead of technology as a whole
Blame corporatism
Software minimalism and then rejection of organization dependent technology is often the road taken by FOSS enthusiasts. Me included. 😀
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
@@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob Anti-Tech revolution is also a very good read. If you have the time, go give it a read.
@@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob Yeah, I get it. You read two of the Unabombers books, no need do spam it.
Technology (internet) about to change my country from a long 9 years of coup to democracy, is not bad after all.
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
Democracy ?? Deep state funded clown gonna bring democracy ?? 🤣
Rip uncle Ted
This video made me subscribe.
He is 100% right no one can be truly free and happy if they are not owners of their life, you cant just expect to live in a society thats unnatural
Great videos and one of the best selection of tasteful memes😂
"How about another joke, Murray?"
"What do you get, when you heat water and use steam pressure to move pistons, generating energy?"
"YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE."
**Civilizational collapse**
I think impossibile goals can be achived in my opinion ted manifesto depends is alf right and alf wrong in othet ways it dipends on different subject prespective because every one of us is different in goals , emotion ecc
Ideas of the top 1%s. Unveil poverty no tank you. We all have already seen this play out.
I agree, wish technology would have stagnated to the tech of 2018-2021ish
Enough to where we can still use our own brains and interact with each other face-to-face, right? Also, I think the only advance tech I could somewhat accept, or at least review and debate, would be tech for surgeries or something along those lines. Like instruments scientists, like chemists and such, use to take measurements. More accurate measurements, you know? Correct me if I am wrong. But tech like internet, tv, and all that, yeah. 2008-2021ish.
I strongly disagree with some of your comments in the section starting in 12:56. Your videos are targeted at the laptop class with email jobs, and dismisses away the people with jobs in the physical economy that make your lifestyle even possible. Your digital nomad life is dependent on hundreds to thousands of people doing other jobs that don't allow them to be digital nomads.
This is why, fundamentally, this techno-libertarianism view of the world is a dead end and will not result in liberation for ALL the way that socialism would
Nope, won't read the opinion of a spiteful murderer. Other people also tell that we need more social connection and more time outdoors doing stuff.
Keep up the good work, Eric. This is solid content, my friend.
Appreciate it!
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
Incredible video, thank you
... i shall wait for the next elder scroll series in order to experiment new life styles or i can always go back to skyrim until then
Imagine if money was specialized kind of like how different medical professions are. (when they shouldn't be).
I want a girl that uses archlinux, I would really love her
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
@@ResponsibleBee-qk4ob o.O okay, nice :D
@@chromeewoods5080 That person/bot is spamming that message on every comment.
I always wondered why the figth club guy didn't just went to visit his mom.
The thing Ted ommit was aesthethic dissinterest, the one Raymond Bayer recognized in pre historic artifacts' remains, so survival instict, and the instrumentalization of the surroundings are not the only inherent human being characteristic
Technology isn't the problem, it's that we were too clever and developed it much too quickly, thus not allowing our nature to adapt to it.
Had it been a thousand, or ten thousand years instead of roughly a century, we'd be in a much better place, mentally and emotionally, with our technology. As it is, we're just apes with smartphones; smart apes, but just mere apes, barely containing outdated instincts.
As it stands, while one can rail against the decadence of modern life, the very fact that you can even sit here and complain about it is the height of decadence. You are so freed from just trying to survive, be it from hunger, disease or somebody trying to off you for any number of social/political/tribal reasons, that you can sit there and ponder "gee, maybe all of this was a mistake".
No, it wasn't. Having the sum total of human knowledge at your actual fingertips isn't a mistake. Learning more about the universe in the last few months than had been learned since the rise of man until a hundred years ago isn't a mistake. Having a society that has enough free time to talk to people across the planet in real time because you're not trying to not be eaten by some predator isn't a mistake.
If you can afford to sit there and complain about how technology has freed you, you can better spend that time doing literally anything else that isn't trying, in some foolish way, to destroy it for everybody else. Despite the blackpilled doomer nonsense, nobody is forcing you to be isolated and alone. That's your own doing. You need social connections that are in real life? THEN DO IT. You need to burn energy? Then do it.
The problem isn't technology. It's you, as a human. So do what humans are best at; adapt and make your own happiness.
LOL. The problem has _always_ been humans, "adapting" to "make their own happiness."
The issue here, _now,_ is that we've effectively snared ourselves into a technocratic dystopia, super-charged with the crystal meth of Neoliberalism, of Profit At All Costs, hyped as a moral imperative. Technology in and of itself is neither good or bad, but in the hands of damaged apes cursed with an oddly-advanced neocortex and a hard-to-control Amygdala (pre-programmed from earlier epochs), well...this is the world that you get.
you know what? I just realized that what you where talking is something I've heard from Dr.K and Destiny (Steven Bonnell). They've both mentioned how people nowadays feel way more mentally depressed even though they have a lot of their physical needs taken care of. They even mentioned the fulfillment point. But where they differ is the solution. they said that people need to have more problems/conflicts that they choose in life vs ones that are just thrusted on to them (active vs passive). that if you have more active challenges you start to feel better and more fulfilled. vs if you just have passive ones. it's why some rich kids can still feel extremely fulfilled while other ones feel empty.
Im live in village and kids city is good thing and technology also they boost economy and do a lot good things
Yeah man.. Uncle Ted was right, except maybe for bombing campaign
(Just in case agent reading this doesn't get me wrong 🤣)
Kaczynski has written two books from prison, they're excellent: Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution
Technology isn't a mistake, capitalism is.
You missed the entire fucking point. You are so oligophrenic and intellectually stunted that you should be put in a zoo -- as an example of what not to be.
Nah it’s technology
Capitalism is the true root of most of our problems.
@Ek-up6ut it can actually.
Your worth (economically) is determined by your skill in a field, if you're better than others in that field, you're worth more.
As simple as that.
No, Capitalism is amongst many problems of which technology is the real root of. Most of the horrors Ted spoke of have exist set and will exist in socialist countries.
@@Krusader- ted literally doesn't understand what socialism is, his manifesto has a "this is why leftists are losers" section lmao
And frankly, most of the problems he mentioned are a result of capitalism comodifying people into products, if there is no profit to be made, i doubt that this would still be a problem.
@@kaantax8666 And he put that section in the beginning to shoo away drones who don't look further than capitalism when trying to solve their problems.
No way, that's why movies are so bad
"getting a job is easy"
Yeah, right.
Actually it is, but it is about bottom, but lets be honest you don't want to start from there, right?
@@UA-camModeratorsSuckMyBalls Bottom as in entry level/junior? Still pretty hard.
@@A_Box i mean any career is about climbing up, and secondly there is a harsh competition between companies, and so basically it is hard to find good job. But thing is when people talk about jobs they mean jobs like doctors, teachers, scientist those people will be always demanded but thing is there is no career in such jobs, it means you won't raise anywhere. Jobs where career is possible are painfull as f...k. The question here what you want. If you want career, prepare your a55 to stressful situation, learn to survive. If you want stable job and beneficial for society then be a teacher, engineer, or professor etc
@@A_Box You could get a job at a restraunt
@@Hoonter101 Thankfully I do have a job but the situation is still absurd. Also, if you ever tried to get a menial job while also having qualifications, get prepared to be rejected as well for being over-qualified. There is really no assurance of anything anymore.
R.I.P. Professor Teddy
The only views Ive ever had are from me watching my own videos eric murphy inspired me [Eric murphy inspired[ no cap eric = GOAT
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
great video. always good to hear these points again as a refresher. funny but i believe the lack of religion comparatively has or will have some bad effects on society. its funny because im not religious or spiritual
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
We will all be the Sheep Herd of the AI Mastercomputer (AM). But ...
Will it be the good shepherd?
See Roko's Basilisk
It would be cool to see a video explaining how you are able to freelance once you acquired your skills
sure we have no privacy, dont own anything, and are completely alone
but we have easier to get funko pops!
Exactly! We'll said!
how strange people so bright and intelligent commit such stupid actions to prove their point.. it's not first time and actually Ive seen quiet a few times that is incredible to something as dumb as me, in one hand is brilliant on the other hand he became a dumb ass in way he choose to make a point to others
Luke smith arc?
Next thing you know I'll be ranting in the woods
There is a very thin line between me and Ted Kaczynski because i do not feel hopeless nor powerless, i feel as powerful as a great general or a world leader because i have gotten to the idea that scaring people out of comfort and shaking the world awake can be done by a single man with dedication even before hearing of him. The only difference is that i wouldnt pick my targets as sloppy as he did
When will you launch your plan?
@@autopoietic When the time is right
if i was millionaire i would also be praising how wonderful is at moment, actually the more money the more wonderful the world would be
Quality video. What organized sport did you start?
Beach volleyball, it's great
When I was in ninth class, my English teacher said "Mobile phone has destroyed human values" I remember I was be like in mind "Hey, what nonsense you are taking about"
It was about seven years ago, the things are more worst, now in India Internet is more cheaper, every family have own phone, everyone busy in phone.
Maybe its the actual people fault ? Some use the phone while staying connected emotionally with eachother
Good topic to discuss, but a bit oversimplification on your part, and a bit of appeal to nature fallacy.
"let's take a look at primitive hunter-gatherer man"
*shows agriculture pic*
😆love the vid tho
Horse-and-buggy-punk
Ancient history/Tribalism has been glorified too much, when all evidence points to it being an actual nightmare. That isn't a life anyone would want.
I remember dude made hugo deploy on github vids. Gj.
wasnt he like experimented by cia by FBI under mk ultra
Guy had a hockey stick and nice CCM bag... so he's okay 👍
I wish I had a skill that enabled me to work from home or remotely, I am a tradesman truckdriver and HVAC air pump repair / installer so I am locked into the grind so to speak, I wish I had tried IT but then again I often hear people say if you didn't have a natural curiosity and interest for programming and did x projects before starting to study you will not go far from junior positions but oh well I can dream about it at least.
Rudolph Steiner had a thing or two to say about technology.
Technology of Information = Talpa Iadului ( = the foundation of hell)
Hey do you follow bugswriter? Both of you seem very similar to me
I've watched a few of his videos, he has some good content
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
I consider technology to be the Trojan horse from Hell.
Let's go Brandon
RIP King Ted
10:57 he died recently, I think he was dead at the time of this video's release too
UBI makes no sense. The only reason people want money is because it's a differentiatior.
I read Ted Kaczynski's two books, Technological Slavery and Anti-Tech Revolution, and they were great !
The great thing about technology is that it helps us do all the things we never had to do before.