My friend the reason why we had SO many mythical creatures in ancient Greece was because Dias(Zeus) was horny that day, and we have so many anecdotes of him because of it!
2 inconsistencies worth mentioning: 1: “Heracles” is a name that he took on later in life in order to please Here. His original name was Alcides. 2: He didn’t die from the poison. He made a funeral pyre and used that to kill himself because he was in horrifying pain and couldn’t remove the clothes containing the poison.
“Deianira you bitch why did you coat the blood of that centaur asshole what the fuck did you think would happen! Fuck it I’m immortal but this shit fucking sucks peace” - actual quote drone herc Source: trust me dude
I have Heracles as one of my first servants in FGO when it was launched in the first week! His lore is amazing (unsurprisingly) hut really got me of this Servant is how far he will go through to protect the little girl who suffered too much. After all, the pain and suffering they went through because of their families gives them common ground to bond over a short period of time before the start of the grail war.
I have him and he's my favourite servant in all the fate series paired with iskandar... His lore is sad in life as is sad in the fate series, truly an unlucky character, that'why i Like him a lot
Heracles' 12 labors, kill/ capture a bunch of legendary creatures, retrieve legendary artifacts, sometimes from the possession of gods... Oh, and also clean these stables lol.
You also missed out the bit where his face got caved in by some bald angry man who is currently in Norway with his son. He often calls him BOI! Guess the reference everyone.
Would love to see Heracles as an Archer or Saber servant! I am under the impression that a servant's appearance becomes somewhat warped when the y are summoned into the Berserker class (citing the difference between Lancelot in Berserker mode vs Artoria's flashback). Is there any art of what Heracles looked like in life or otherwise when he's not hulked out?
Your impression is correct. Each class has certain modifiers to give the heroic spirit certain advantages and drawbacks against its competitors. The Berserker's modifier is called "Madness Enhancement", which boosts all their physical stats at the cost of higher brain function often to the point of blind rage and inability to speak. I do not believe there is any official art by Type Moon of Heracles as any of his alternative classes or in life, though I would wager there are a few fans who gave themselves artistic licence when drawing or writing about him in this what-if scenario.
I really like your format, it was a damm smart and great idea. As for Hercules, i really like the dinamic between. The one who was "aboneded" protected by the madman, that, just for her, is able to keep himself in check. Is it is about power however, his alternate version, Alcides or True Archer, is a monster even beyond Hercules in my oppinion. He could even be the Grand Archer, for all i care
Shirou Tokisada Amakusa Kotomine grand doesn't necessarily mean powerful (although that's usually the case) it's often a skill that is associated with the servant that can qualify them for the class
The Title of Grand certainly doesn't seem to be nothing. That's why i said he could be, because it's a pretty big thing. WARNING, POTENTIAL SPOILERS FOR GRAND ORDER We know only of two Grand Servants so far (as far as i know). Grand Assassin King Hassan and Grand Caster Solomon of Israel. Both were stupendously powerfull, even compared to other outstanding examples of their classes. King Hassan was able to block Excalibur Galatine from Gawain, while he was empowerd to his highest through numeral of the saint *with his cape*. Which isn't even a Noble Phantasm. Solomon has complete control over magic itself, can call upon 72 Demons, whom each have enough power to annihilate multiple servants. And all of that are just his skills. ENDING OF POTENTIAL SPOILERS Hercules in the form of the Archer/Avenger Alcides hasn't appeared yet in Grand Order. And while there are other potential candidates for being the Grand Archer, he is one, if not the most likely character for it in my oppinion.
If that happens, it better be freaking kickass because we need more of Herakles as he should be, not as a constant reminder if the worst days of his life, nor as a hate-filled caricature of himself, but as a true hero whose greatness is unforgettable and is what comes to mind when one thinks of great heroes of antiquity
Gil was fucking lucky that Heracles was brought into the berserker class in Stay Night cuz the Gil in Fate Strange basically lost his shit when he saw Alcides (Heracles Alter but he doesnt want to be called that) who is completely sane and full on anti-god with him throwing away his divinity cus of his sheer anger towards gods and this is a series with Enkidu, Gil's only rival that can match him in power and just so much more absurdly broken servants with Pale Rider the manifestation of pestilence itself and the idea of Who is Jack The Ripper into a physical form to be anyone or anything
I believe that was his Battle Tenacity or Continuation skill taking effect there sort of like Cú Chulainn who supposedly fought Gilgamesh for hours in one of the routes. They're different heroes and one is under the influence of being a berserker so I think that's what makes the difference there. Some really good heroes in Stay/Night that are just overshadowed by GG Gilgamesh, Baber, and I am You, and You are Me.
@Min Ex The moment Gilgamesh opened his mouth in Fate Zero, the number one thing I wanted was for Berserker to punch him in his smug face, but I didn't get that. Then I hoped that the Berserker in Fate/Stay Night would get to punch him, but I didn't get that either.
J Double C Well his mortal side dies and his soul is accepted among the gods. When summoned as a servant it's his demigod form. God's themselves normally can't get summoned.
Fate/strange fake anime when?? I want to see True Archer!!! Seeing that one makes you realize that having him as a Berserker in the original FSN was just Nasu's way of nerfing an overwhelmingly OP character. How would you even kill him??
A servant of Fate/Strange Fake in layman terms...SPOILERS SPOILERS... STOP READING IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS. His true name is Alcides, the human side of Heracles, when he hasn't come to be insane However, prior to being summoned he shrunk and lost his divinity. But, he makes up for it in various ways.One of...if not the strongest Archer in the Fate Series (theorized to be capable of going toe to toe with FP Gil for 12 weeks). "He can accurately shoot arrows from his bow at a target over twenty kilometers away, their speed surpassing the speed of sound and releasing powerful enough shock-waves to shatter any glass in the nearby area. Even when Archer uses the gauntlet of his Golden Armor to defend himself from an arrow, it still cracks the gauntlet and causes chips of it to fall away. His bow is strong enough to knock away weapons from the Gate of Babylon, and he can somehow survive an all out attack from all directions without receiving a single scratch by using his Nemean Lion Pelt Noble Phantasm. He states that Archer requires Ea to make them equal in a clash, producing a mysterious cloth Noble Phantasm. He also possesses Reincarnation Pandora. His Battle Continuation can allow him to continue fighting even with wounds that place him on the verge of death. An ability representing his strong will to stay alive on the battlefield. Bravery is a skill that brushes aside mental interference and increases melee damage. The divine curse lodged inside him has be brought out by the Command Spell. The score has decreased considerably. Forced Distortion of the class he was originally called forth in. He has received the other class's specialty as proof. Conversely, either of the class skills has declined. In his case, Independent Action has dropped to C rank. Eye of the Mind (True) is an insight fostered through training and discipline. In his case, having his god given abilities thrown away, the techniques he accumulated as a human make their appearance." His Hydra bow has enough power to match 5 of the beams of light from Ars Almadel Salomonis.(Which basically means he can match 5 Excaliburs). He's virtually invincible.
Looking back at the stories of the Greek mythical gods, I grow to love God of War III for very personal reasons. In fact, I take great pleasure in playing it.
Battle against Gil in the anime, while definitely a good visual one, really lacks when compared to Heracles's real achivments in the VN. Though I don't fault the anime for not doing it justice, due to animation limitation, what Heracles portrayed in the VN was far more impressive. How many people can claim that you defied the laws of life, death, and the world itself just to give comfort to a 'small' and 'fragile' girl? The Man is a Legend beyond normal means, beyond his tragedies, beyond his sins the Man deserves the best of respects. A tale that will go down in history for ages to come.
You know after watching this and actually knowing the backstory of Heracles I kinda feel like a dick now. I loved (and still do) the books Rick Riordan wrote on different pantheons and whenever he was brought up Heracles/Hercules was always made to seem like a bad guy, a "sorry excuse for a hero" and etc. I kinda feel like an asshole now and sure different universes means different people (and slightly different histories) but I feel bad now.
parker maisterra Very true indeed different universe mean different people with slightly different history this could be said same for Hawkules (He is the spirals version of Heracles/Hercules), I’m not quite sure if they mentioned megara and his kids.
Thanks to these lore videos I'm learning more about these characters than I knew before. Heracles, a man driven to rage and killing his own wife and child used that same rage to selflessly protect a (sort of) child that was under his care. I like to think he was trying to make up for his mistake with his family with Illya and protect her, not because of their pact but because he didn't want to be the cause of losing someone he holds dear. In the end, they both died in peace, blessed by each other, or at least I think of it that way lol Screw Gilgamesh though for what he did! No one does that to best girl Illya! lol
exactly! he didnt even need illya's heart in that route too because they decided to use Rin or Shinji thats what pissed me off the most Hate how in all the anime adaptions minus Stay Night she always gets killed she's one of the characters that deserves a happy ending the most next to Sakura
I didn't roll for Hercules when Fuyuki Pickup Summon was on in FGO. I have every FSN Servant except him and having been burned badly from Sakata Kintoki Pickup Summon where I was unable to get Jeanne d'Arc or Waver Velvet due to horrible E rank Luck, I had shied away from trying to roll for Hercules
2:41 [spoiler for HF] So that's where Shirou's name for "Nine Lives Blade Works" originated from. You gotta kill something faster than it can regenerate if you want it dead, and corrupt heracles (or alter, I don't know) is no exception.
OtakuDaiKun there's also Penthesilea in Nasuverse but most of time in Fate Grand Order Epic of Remnant, theres even a fanart of her with Hippolyta together. The bad news... she's a Berserker with Mad Enchantment EX rank and will go nuts if Achilles is around. Hippolyta as Rider appeared in Strange Fake but thats about it other then she punched a messed up version of Heracles into a mountain and erupted.
Well, tecnically his name is Alcides, foremost the only one who can kill him, is him self, independent of the version of the hydra poison made for himself, or the auto funeral, the unique one who can kill Alcides are his own weapons or himself
It's really a sad story of a warrior that seems to have no remorse for his enemies but fights to protect his master. Too bad at first that Illya is a yandere loli.
+OtakuDaiKun sorry meant to reply to this but was caught up with christmas stuff and looking into fate apocrypha as i prepare a full review in both anime and light novel to cover my basis in what's good and bad about the story in particular. anyway on the topic of Heracle's name I feel that while Nasu took it upon himself to do what I usually assume is deep level research on his part and I'm not really sure if the japanese even say Heracles since looking on some subs and dubs of fate stay night which were official had his name as "Hercules" so I can only surmise the reason why the name change to some extent is controversial on a small scale but not really. I think we mainly owe it to main stream media in how they chose to go about using the name Hercules over Heracles. since at least when it comes to looking back on American media we've had our fair share of greek mythology movies, shows, and games that have defaulted to using the name Hercules which over time became the more popular known name while still telling those exact same stories you brought up in the lore. I mean hell I don't know if they changed it but I recall my old literature books when i was in school from elementary to high school they called him Hercules. honestly as easy as it would be to simply say "Blame disney" it's really not their fault at least not entirely. I know disney took a friendlier concept of greek mythology but I still love watching that movie so I don't want you or others to get the wrong impression. the main point I'm trying to say is primarily everyone in the US at least myself included are so used to hearing this hearing this myth and used to seeing and even hearing his name be Hercules so it's understandable why most would feel off put if this is their first time hearing it that way. whether you decide to bring this up in a future discussion video or not or you may have already in one of your videos but I think it's a good topic to discuss on why certain heroes of myth have had name changes in some way or form since Hercules/Heracles isn't the only one since we also had that with Jeanne D'Arc translated to Joan of Arc, and probably the only other name that upset the fate fanbase was FGO's official english translation of Artoria to Altria even though previous dubs have said Artoria. anyway that was meant to be my reply to you on that and i think it may be more of a discussion point to bring up in the future when you think it's appropriate or even worth a good 5 minutes to talk about since I have seen comments and even the official FGO and Typemoon Wiki made a note about how the fan base got upset about the name changes.
Gil's plan never made any sense to other than to provide some pointless violence: Illya already WAS the vessel for the lesser grail, but then after killing her they still needed someone to put her heart into so for it to work, meaning killing her was a waste!
Derek Bates That's a fantastic point. I'd love to hear his internal monologue. He could have used Illya herself, Rin, or Sakura as vessels, but settled on Shinji. It's probably a bit of his lust for drama and ego that provoked his decision. He is overconfident after all.
He didn't have any interest in the grail besides its curses so he intended to create a defective grail just to spill mud everywhere, you could make a point of him avoiding Angra incarnating or something, but Kirei did intend to complete the grail and Gil doesn't use Shinji after Kirei is dead so maybe he still was thinking on using a good vessel till that point and then Illya death was just because he wanted to fight Herc and had no interest in taking care of Illya afterwards, because he could have just waited to the end to go after her
Speaking of Heracles,can you explain something for me DaiKun?It's said in the wiki of Type-Moon that Divine Spirits can be possibly summoned with their full Divinity and that Demigods are applicable as servants and i got confused with all of that so can you explain to me what Divine Spirits are?
Axels Santoso He’s a demigod. You’ll find a lot of those. I guess it’s assumed that, technically, they aren’t even at their full power as servants compared to how they were in life.
Honestly if it was a fair fight between gilgamesh and heracles and you watched fight between gilgamesh and shirou [ and replace him with heracles ] , you know exactly who would have had whose head in his hands
it's where he's best characterized IMO. In Fate he gets six lives shaved off by EMIYA off-screen, then another one by Rin, and then gets finished off in one hit by Caliburn, but no real heroic deeds as in UBW, just gets defeated in a straight forward fight. In Heaven's Feel ***spoilers*** he gets swallowed by the Shadow after fighting the Shadow and Saber Alter to the end to allow Illya to escape ***end of spoiler*** while this makes it sound pretty similar to fighthing to the end with Gilgamesh, I find the tragic ending of Illya dying and Heracles' Battle Continuation triggered after her death to be much, much more powerful
lol... when you name yourself that I feel like I'm actually speaking to Arcueid. Pretty much every servant has multiple stories to tell, so I choose the one I feel is the most dramatically potent. He's a great opponent in Fate, but we don't learn much about him in it, and in HF he gets pwned by Shirou's Nine Lives Blade Works. The UBW route adds a much better dramatic touch to his story, or so I feel.
Somethings bug me out extremely like when the fate lore for a character is changed . Kinda makes like its not the actual hero when the story is changed
The thing is Hercules was the legitimate child of Zeus and Hera and not one of Zeus's "hide the banana" escapades with other Greek women in his movie and animated series. So in a way Hercules was always the more favored son over Heracles the Berserker...
hmm but why didnt he just take the loli and run i mean i get it hes a great warrior but still (and the gate of babayon is hack) after awhile they could have ran nothing really stoping him from picking her up and getting the fuck out
yeah but he is pretty dam fast i mean he could have sacrificed himself so she could escape but she stayed i mean i get it its to the story but when you just sit down and think about it they had other options plus as you said he was mostly protecting her is she woudl have goteen out of harms way the fight could have went differently but since he was using all his power to keep the loli safe (pledge to protect) it back fired
"Zeus, finds himself overcome with lust" Ahh Greek myths why must so much of you start in the same way
clement goh Either that or someone abandoning their child in a mountain or by a river.
having a raging boner 24/7 is pretty much the only thing zeus is known for so how else could it start?
My friend the reason why we had SO many mythical creatures in ancient Greece was because Dias(Zeus) was horny that day, and we have so many anecdotes of him because of it!
@@uteriel282 ROFL, LMAO. Hilarious and true. Zues was a horny bastard wasn't he?!
Even the gods have human lust because they're always lusting over humans lol
What's there to know, he's a freakishly large and muscular man who follows around a cute little girl... Zeus would be proud
God in Reverse That statement has a lovely afterthought when it all comes together.
thanks
lol
2 inconsistencies worth mentioning:
1: “Heracles” is a name that he took on later in life in order to please Here. His original name was Alcides.
2: He didn’t die from the poison. He made a funeral pyre and used that to kill himself because he was in horrifying pain and couldn’t remove the clothes containing the poison.
Depends. Some sources say that Centaur blood was the problem and it did kill him
“Deianira you bitch why did you coat the blood of that centaur asshole what the fuck did you think would happen! Fuck it I’m immortal but this shit fucking sucks peace”
- actual quote drone herc
Source: trust me dude
@@Alernategem her name literally means husband destroyer
Lucas Tobias I am aware
some of fate lore is oddly different from the actual legends. i don't know why though.
I kind of like the thought of herc protecting illya because she reminds him of his kids
Cake# Yeah, that moment was where I saw the most actual character development for him.
OtakuDaiKun Hmph Berserker is truly the strongest in the world.
Did you get the news about okeanos coming on the 28th?
Yup. Buffing up my servants for it^^
I've ALWAYS thought of that parallel. Fate servants tend to be so much more interesting the more you know about their legends/life stories.
OtakuDaiKun. i wish Frankenstein was that caring for me.
Berser-car
Waiting till Guts is summoned as Berserker
Wrong show. XD
cant wait for jesus to join the holy grail war
@@iquoteeverythingisay4627 ruler class
@@iquoteeverythingisay4627 we have Buddah in saviour class, so why not Jesus.
Guts could be a berserker, saber and even an archer as backup.
Ah heracles aka berserker ! Another fascinating tale
Heracles, a kind berserker with a creative and a strategic mind.
I have Heracles as one of my first servants in FGO when it was launched in the first week! His lore is amazing (unsurprisingly) hut really got me of this Servant is how far he will go through to protect the little girl who suffered too much. After all, the pain and suffering they went through because of their families gives them common ground to bond over a short period of time before the start of the grail war.
lucky i haven't been able to get him at all
I have him and he's my favourite servant in all the fate series paired with iskandar... His lore is sad in life as is sad in the fate series, truly an unlucky character, that'why i Like him a lot
Heracles' 12 labors, kill/ capture a bunch of legendary creatures, retrieve legendary artifacts, sometimes from the possession of gods... Oh, and also clean these stables lol.
KTS News and Politics Yeah. Those had to be some nasty ass stables.
Yeah I think they were so overcome with filth that the smell alone would rot someone’s lungs if they breathed in the stench to long
You also missed out the bit where his face got caved in by some bald angry man who is currently in Norway with his son. He often calls him BOI!
Guess the reference everyone.
Now that would be a twist
Ahh, a fellow man of culture
After Infinity War, that bald angry man should've caved in Thor while he's in Norway.
5:59 otakudaikun talks about Heracles’s tragic death while showing us a picture of berser-car
Would love to see Heracles as an Archer or Saber servant! I am under the impression that a servant's appearance becomes somewhat warped when the y are summoned into the Berserker class (citing the difference between Lancelot in Berserker mode vs Artoria's flashback). Is there any art of what Heracles looked like in life or otherwise when he's not hulked out?
Aaron Woodruff Archer Herc appears in Fate strange fake.
And your pretty much right, Archer Herc is much more thin compared to his berserker self.
Your impression is correct. Each class has certain modifiers to give the heroic spirit certain advantages and drawbacks against its competitors. The Berserker's modifier is called "Madness Enhancement", which boosts all their physical stats at the cost of higher brain function often to the point of blind rage and inability to speak. I do not believe there is any official art by Type Moon of Heracles as any of his alternative classes or in life, though I would wager there are a few fans who gave themselves artistic licence when drawing or writing about him in this what-if scenario.
Cu culain should have been berserkar
Artoria should be lancer
Emiya should be saber
Hercules should be archer the rest was okay with there place
I really like your format, it was a damm smart and great idea.
As for Hercules, i really like the dinamic between. The one who was "aboneded" protected by the madman, that, just for her, is able to keep himself in check.
Is it is about power however, his alternate version, Alcides or True Archer, is a monster even beyond Hercules in my oppinion.
He could even be the Grand Archer, for all i care
Shirou Tokisada Amakusa Kotomine grand doesn't necessarily mean powerful (although that's usually the case) it's often a skill that is associated with the servant that can qualify them for the class
The Title of Grand certainly doesn't seem to be nothing. That's why i said he could be, because it's a pretty big thing.
WARNING, POTENTIAL SPOILERS FOR GRAND ORDER
We know only of two Grand Servants so far (as far as i know). Grand Assassin King Hassan and Grand Caster Solomon of Israel. Both were stupendously powerfull, even compared to other outstanding examples of their classes. King Hassan was able to block Excalibur Galatine from Gawain, while he was empowerd to his highest through numeral of the saint *with his cape*. Which isn't even a Noble Phantasm.
Solomon has complete control over magic itself, can call upon 72 Demons, whom each have enough power to annihilate multiple servants. And all of that are just his skills.
ENDING OF POTENTIAL SPOILERS
Hercules in the form of the Archer/Avenger Alcides hasn't appeared yet in Grand Order. And while there are other potential candidates for being the Grand Archer, he is one, if not the most likely character for it in my oppinion.
Shirou Tokisada Amakusa Kotomine sorry, i didn't get this notification.
How do you get youtube to notify you on comments again?
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You know what I like? Despite Hercules being a berserker and whatnot, his twelve labors shows his intelligence and strategic mind
clement goh It'd be cool to see an ova with him performing the labors.
If that happens, it better be freaking kickass because we need more of Herakles as he should be, not as a constant reminder if the worst days of his life, nor as a hate-filled caricature of himself, but as a true hero whose greatness is unforgettable and is what comes to mind when one thinks of great heroes of antiquity
Basaka wa dare ni mo makenai. Sekai de ichiban tsuyoi dakara!
Alex Park feels
Stop the tears.
fuck you
Out of all of the many anime lore videos I have ever watched, yours is up there with some of the best I have watched.
Thank you so much!
Well done video Daikun. You virtually covered everything important to better understand his character. Your Lore videos have been improving gradually.
Well my favorite is my Artoria reprise but I'm glad to hear it^^
OtakuDaiKun Oh that was one one if it your best lore video. But I'm talking generally.
Really enjoyable as always, Keep up the good work.
This just make me more hyped for the Heavens feel movies coming this fall.
Gil was fucking lucky that Heracles was brought into the berserker class in Stay Night cuz the Gil in Fate Strange basically lost his shit when he saw Alcides (Heracles Alter but he doesnt want to be called that) who is completely sane and full on anti-god with him throwing away his divinity cus of his sheer anger towards gods and this is a series with Enkidu, Gil's only rival that can match him in power and just so much more absurdly broken servants with Pale Rider the manifestation of pestilence itself and the idea of Who is Jack The Ripper into a physical form to be anyone or anything
Just pulled Heracles after watching this video, now your channel will be the catalyst for my pulls.
But doesn't he almost defy his own legend when, even after his 12 lives are exhausted, he returns for a brief moment to almost kill Gilgamesh?
He even broke free of Enkidu and made Gil shit himself! That was the best part!
I believe that was his Battle Tenacity or Continuation skill taking effect there sort of like Cú Chulainn who supposedly fought Gilgamesh for hours in one of the routes. They're different heroes and one is under the influence of being a berserker so I think that's what makes the difference there. Some really good heroes in Stay/Night that are just overshadowed by GG Gilgamesh, Baber, and I am You, and You are Me.
@@merlink.7287 your comment is too good for everyone
@Min Ex The moment Gilgamesh opened his mouth in Fate Zero, the number one thing I wanted was for Berserker to punch him in his smug face, but I didn't get that. Then I hoped that the Berserker in Fate/Stay Night would get to punch him, but I didn't get that either.
Went with the Unlimited Blade Works route for this one, pretty cool.
Can't wait till you get to Iskandar.
I have a friend who studied Alexander the Great in college so I too am excited.
Awesome
I know for a fact this Hercules ain’t truly dead he’s just back in Olympus honored by the Gods
J Double C Well his mortal side dies and his soul is accepted among the gods. When summoned as a servant it's his demigod form. God's themselves normally can't get summoned.
Fate/strange fake anime when?? I want to see True Archer!!! Seeing that one makes you realize that having him as a Berserker in the original FSN was just Nasu's way of nerfing an overwhelmingly OP character. How would you even kill him??
PaulNBlack true archer? Could you explain I'm confused.
Probably when the novel series is actually over. I think it's still ongoing
A servant of Fate/Strange Fake in layman terms...SPOILERS
SPOILERS...
STOP READING IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS.
His true name is Alcides, the human side of Heracles, when he hasn't come to be insane However, prior to being summoned he shrunk and lost his divinity. But, he makes up for it in various ways.One of...if not the strongest Archer in the Fate Series (theorized to be capable of going toe to toe with FP Gil for 12 weeks). "He can accurately shoot arrows from his bow at a target over twenty kilometers away, their speed surpassing the speed of sound and releasing powerful enough shock-waves to shatter any glass in the nearby area. Even when Archer uses the gauntlet of his Golden Armor to defend himself from an arrow, it still cracks the gauntlet and causes chips of it to fall away. His bow is strong enough to knock away weapons from the Gate of Babylon, and he can somehow survive an all out attack from all directions without receiving a single scratch by using his Nemean Lion Pelt Noble Phantasm. He states that Archer requires Ea to make them equal in a clash, producing a mysterious cloth Noble Phantasm. He also possesses Reincarnation Pandora.
His Battle Continuation can allow him to continue fighting even with wounds that place him on the verge of death. An ability representing his strong will to stay alive on the battlefield.
Bravery is a skill that brushes aside mental interference and increases melee damage. The divine curse lodged inside him has be brought out by the Command Spell. The score has decreased considerably.
Forced Distortion of the class he was originally called forth in. He has received the other class's specialty as proof. Conversely, either of the class skills has declined. In his case, Independent Action has dropped to C rank.
Eye of the Mind (True) is an insight fostered through training and discipline. In his case, having his god given abilities thrown away, the techniques he accumulated as a human make their appearance."
His Hydra bow has enough power to match 5 of the beams of light from Ars Almadel Salomonis.(Which basically means he can match 5 Excaliburs). He's virtually invincible.
Yharnam It has a very low chance of being completed sadly.
The Nasuverse has always been about Overpowering enemies with stupid strong power.
Looking back at the stories of the Greek mythical gods, I grow to love God of War III for very personal reasons. In fact, I take great pleasure in playing it.
Battle against Gil in the anime, while definitely a good visual one, really lacks when compared to Heracles's real achivments in the VN. Though I don't fault the anime for not doing it justice, due to animation limitation, what Heracles portrayed in the VN was far more impressive.
How many people can claim that you defied the laws of life, death, and the world itself just to give comfort to a 'small' and 'fragile' girl? The Man is a Legend beyond normal means, beyond his tragedies, beyond his sins the Man deserves the best of respects.
A tale that will go down in history for ages to come.
Chadest man ever
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6:00 BERSERCAR!!!
You should do a video on Chiron and the other Apocrypha heroes. That would be interesting to learn.
You know after watching this and actually knowing the backstory of Heracles I kinda feel like a dick now. I loved (and still do) the books Rick Riordan wrote on different pantheons and whenever he was brought up Heracles/Hercules was always made to seem like a bad guy, a "sorry excuse for a hero" and etc. I kinda feel like an asshole now and sure different universes means different people (and slightly different histories) but I feel bad now.
parker maisterra Very true indeed different universe mean different people with slightly different history this could be said same for Hawkules (He is the spirals version of Heracles/Hercules), I’m not quite sure if they mentioned megara and his kids.
Heracles here was the first Servent i summoned in FGO and he has yet to let me down
Thanks to these lore videos I'm learning more about these characters than I knew before.
Heracles, a man driven to rage and killing his own wife and child used that same rage to selflessly protect a (sort of) child that was under his care. I like to think he was trying to make up for his mistake with his family with Illya and protect her, not because of their pact but because he didn't want to be the cause of losing someone he holds dear. In the end, they both died in peace, blessed by each other, or at least I think of it that way lol
Screw Gilgamesh though for what he did! No one does that to best girl Illya! lol
exactly! he didnt even need illya's heart in that route too because they decided to use Rin or Shinji thats what pissed me off the most Hate how in all the anime adaptions minus Stay Night she always gets killed she's one of the characters that deserves a happy ending the most next to Sakura
Maybe Heracles my someday be an Assassin class servant. The idea was inspired from History Channel's "Clash of the Gods" on "Heracles(or Hercules)".
firedrake burst Interesting. I know he gets a different class in FGO but not assassin.
he is confirmed to be a candidate for asassin, as strange as it sounds. And dai, so far we only have zerker herc in fgo, alcides is in strange fake
Zeus, of course it's that guy, the entire reason behind things ranging from a PS2 game to an anime.
Heracles is probably one of my personal favorites in Fate.
I did not expect Berser-car
I hope you keep making these Lore videoes and that you'll eventually expand into other Heroes not seen in the Holy Grail War of Fate/Stay Night :D
You should do a lore video on Shirou Amakusa.
Owen Ahlquist Yes! Please Daikun!
His lore is basically the same with real life history
Pff I can't be bothered to study "real life history." So I figured, he's in the fate series, and Daikun does lore on fate, so I might as well ask him.
Ah Heracles when Cu doesn't deal enough damage and Cu Alter dies too quickly
Could you do Angra Mainyu? Even after reading the wiki I still find his story hard to follow (the pseudo holy grail inside the Irish woman's mind)
jesus alberto armenta olivares My current forecast is Kojirou Sasaki, True Assassin, then Angra Manyu.
Basaka wa darenimo makenai
Sekai de ichiban tsuoi dakara!
This Boy here demands respect by merely existing. Don't dare disrespect the homie Herc
Hercules? More like, HUNKULES!
Berserker Heracles' weapon should have been the lyre
Voivoda Dracula He'd just bash people with it.
It would be a one-hit noble phantasm
.13 to .21 pretty much sums up Greek mythology
Xavier Zeus' untamed libido...
Heracles is best dad
I didn't roll for Hercules when Fuyuki Pickup Summon was on in FGO. I have every FSN Servant except him and having been burned badly from Sakata Kintoki Pickup Summon where I was unable to get Jeanne d'Arc or Waver Velvet due to horrible E rank Luck, I had shied away from trying to roll for Hercules
our voice really works well with this kind of storytelling
TheRichmaster Thank you^^
He then goes on to break the Enkidu like its a fucking twig and makes Gilgamesh shit his pants for the first time
I feel bad for him now ... 😖😭
2:41 [spoiler for HF]
So that's where Shirou's name for "Nine Lives Blade Works" originated from. You gotta kill something faster than it can regenerate if you want it dead, and corrupt heracles (or alter, I don't know) is no exception.
@OtakuDaiKun Hercules can be summoned as Archer in Fate/Strange Fake he was summoned as archer known as True Archer
Thats pretty good on the Twelve Labor part of Heracles (Hercules) Lore OtakuDaikun and also that Amazon Queen Hippolyta Rider and the freaking Hydra.
I was surprised to see Hippolyta had a Nasuverse image^^
OtakuDaiKun there's also Penthesilea in Nasuverse but most of time in Fate Grand Order Epic of Remnant, theres even a fanart of her with Hippolyta together. The bad news... she's a Berserker with Mad Enchantment EX rank and will go nuts if Achilles is around. Hippolyta as Rider appeared in Strange Fake but thats about it other then she punched a messed up version of Heracles into a mountain and erupted.
Lol, I didn't expected to see actual historical paintings XD
Guess Berserker's fandom isn't that big...
I could have filled it with lots of him just screaming and standing there but there’s hardly any art of his past.
Can you please do Karna or Jeanne? I love your videos btw. They make legends of Fate character so much more interesting.
Thank you^^ I'm working my way outward from the classics. After Stay Night I'll be able to jump between Extra, Zero, and Apocrypha.
Do a Lore video of Hektor prince of troy
I will but he'll be after the classic servants as I work my way out.
OtakuDaiKun good good, nobody gives hektor the respect he deserves. Even Achilles stated they were rivals, and he wouldn't want 2 fight him again
I'd love to see how one of Zeus' other demigods would be like a Servant and what they would do as one. I am of course talking about Kratos
Kraros is not a son of zeus in mythology, he is the son of a Titan and his friend with Zeus.
Basaka wa darenimo makenai!
Well, tecnically his name is Alcides, foremost the only one who can kill him, is him self, independent of the version of the hydra poison made for himself, or the auto funeral, the unique one who can kill Alcides are his own weapons or himself
Please cover Shirou Kotomine soon! Or Kiritsugu Emiya!
Can you do karna or Arjuna, or even Jeanne d arc
I'm going to try and cover all of them, but I'm working my way out from FSN.
OtakuDaiKun ok, I like fate/stay night to, so who's next?
OtakuDaiKun
is it pronounced Berserker,BaSaKar, or Berser-car?
Jamal Davis berserker
Yu Homura
it was meant as a joke.
It's really a sad story of a warrior that seems to have no remorse for his enemies but fights to protect his master. Too bad at first that Illya is a yandere loli.
Tdull1993 Well they're both misunderstood which makes them an ideal match.
Women : "exist"
Zeus: "begins to boink"
still seems odd how popular media goes with Hercules over Heracles. you'd think certain groups would make a bigger fuss over that small detail
Freddy Gutierrez There's actually meaning behind Heracles so it's definitely odd.
+OtakuDaiKun sorry meant to reply to this but was caught up with christmas stuff and looking into fate apocrypha as i prepare a full review in both anime and light novel to cover my basis in what's good and bad about the story in particular.
anyway on the topic of Heracle's name I feel that while Nasu took it upon himself to do what I usually assume is deep level research on his part and I'm not really sure if the japanese even say Heracles since looking on some subs and dubs of fate stay night which were official had his name as "Hercules" so I can only surmise the reason why the name change to some extent is controversial on a small scale but not really. I think we mainly owe it to main stream media in how they chose to go about using the name Hercules over Heracles. since at least when it comes to looking back on American media we've had our fair share of greek mythology movies, shows, and games that have defaulted to using the name Hercules which over time became the more popular known name while still telling those exact same stories you brought up in the lore. I mean hell I don't know if they changed it but I recall my old literature books when i was in school from elementary to high school they called him Hercules. honestly as easy as it would be to simply say "Blame disney" it's really not their fault at least not entirely. I know disney took a friendlier concept of greek mythology but I still love watching that movie so I don't want you or others to get the wrong impression.
the main point I'm trying to say is primarily everyone in the US at least myself included are so used to hearing this hearing this myth and used to seeing and even hearing his name be Hercules so it's understandable why most would feel off put if this is their first time hearing it that way. whether you decide to bring this up in a future discussion video or not or you may have already in one of your videos but I think it's a good topic to discuss on why certain heroes of myth have had name changes in some way or form since Hercules/Heracles isn't the only one since we also had that with Jeanne D'Arc translated to Joan of Arc, and probably the only other name that upset the fate fanbase was FGO's official english translation of Artoria to Altria even though previous dubs have said Artoria.
anyway that was meant to be my reply to you on that and i think it may be more of a discussion point to bring up in the future when you think it's appropriate or even worth a good 5 minutes to talk about since I have seen comments and even the official FGO and Typemoon Wiki made a note about how the fan base got upset about the name changes.
Freddy Gutierrez Tracing that trend all the way back would be difficult. It's the same way for Odysseus right? That's his roman name.
Can you do Li Shuwen(Fate Extra Assassin)lore.
Finally a youtube video that doesnt call heracles hercules
It's important to his entire myth after all.
I'm amazed there isn't any artwork of Fate Hercules doing the 12 labors
I know, right? Hippolyta was the only one I saw a manga pic for. Pretty sure it's from strange fake.
that..that cant be possible request everyone for pics...
but si-
*EV-E-RY-ONE!!!!!!!!!!*
How Op would Zeus be if he could become a servant.
He'd have to find a way to limit his God status in order to fit into a servant form. Perhaps he could claim a human vessel like some other gods.
Weakness any female servant...
Genderbent Zeus?
But still has Zeus's lust for wamen
A hero to the end ...
Gil's plan never made any sense to other than to provide some pointless violence: Illya already WAS the vessel for the lesser grail, but then after killing her they still needed someone to put her heart into so for it to work, meaning killing her was a waste!
Derek Bates That's a fantastic point. I'd love to hear his internal monologue. He could have used Illya herself, Rin, or Sakura as vessels, but settled on Shinji. It's probably a bit of his lust for drama and ego that provoked his decision. He is overconfident after all.
Personally, I think he likes killing ppl.
He didn't have any interest in the grail besides its curses so he intended to create a defective grail just to spill mud everywhere, you could make a point of him avoiding Angra incarnating or something, but Kirei did intend to complete the grail and Gil doesn't use Shinji after Kirei is dead so maybe he still was thinking on using a good vessel till that point and then Illya death was just because he wanted to fight Herc and had no interest in taking care of Illya afterwards, because he could have just waited to the end to go after her
Speaking of Heracles,can you explain something for me DaiKun?It's said in the wiki of Type-Moon that Divine Spirits can be possibly summoned with their full Divinity and that Demigods are applicable as servants and i got confused with all of that so can you explain to me what Divine Spirits are?
Basically a divine spirit is a full on god. In order to be servants they have to considerably limit their divinity.
@@otakudaikun So,like for example,if Athena from Saint Seiya who is a goddess was summoned,she would be less than than god?
Heracles is perhaps one of the best well know heroes of ancient mythology but still people forger Greek tales,....well not always a happy ending
What would've happened if he went against lancer(Cu Chulainn)?
I dunno. Cu might have to use his NP for every life.
@@otakudaikun Thanks a lot for replying, I really like Hercules but I do feel Cu would've won. In the novel Cu battled against Gil for more than a day
Holy shit that was deep
Its sad that out of all the Fifth Holy Grail War Servants, Gilgamesh is the one with the happy ending when he died in his life.
Plazoblock12 I'm sure he still misses his play-dough.
Plazoblock12 You can't be a hero without a tragedy
Cake# Did Shakespeare have a tragic death? He's a servant.
OtakuDaiKun No but he wrote tragedies so it works out.
_B A S A K A ! !_
A man worthy of his title
Though how filthy was that house he was cleaning?
They were huge horse stables.
OtakuDaiKun whoops must be daydreaming at that section
horse stable, yeah it is pretty filthy
Horse stable that had never been cleaned before
Good hero Herc still wish we got to see him an anime aside from his berserker form in Fate universe. Fate strange fake please.
Please, do fate lore of karna
I wanna see Saberles now
Soo.. Is heracles considered as a divine spirit (god)? Because if he is, then how can he be summoned in the grail war?
Axels Santoso He’s a demigod. You’ll find a lot of those. I guess it’s assumed that, technically, they aren’t even at their full power as servants compared to how they were in life.
@@otakudaikun so heracles is even more stronger when he is at his prime? Damn and he was already one of the toughest servant in fsn
Will you be doing lore videos about the Servants of Red and Black?
I will, but after the Apocrypha anime. Mordred is one of my favorite characters after all.
Alright, cool. Frankenstein('s monster) is one of my personal favorites, and I'd love to see her story done in your style.
Wait a sec!! Gate of Babylon.
pls do fate lore for karna
@Otakudaikun, can i know the anime where the characters from your opening came from? Thanks.
God Eater, Tales of Xillia and Vesperia, Inuyasha, Fate Zero... I think that's most of em.
Honestly if it was a fair fight between gilgamesh and heracles and you watched fight between gilgamesh and shirou [ and replace him with heracles ] , you know exactly who would have had whose head in his hands
Fights in Fate are always contextual.
Only speaking of the UBW route Hercules?
it's where he's best characterized IMO. In Fate he gets six lives shaved off by EMIYA off-screen, then another one by Rin, and then gets finished off in one hit by Caliburn, but no real heroic deeds as in UBW, just gets defeated in a straight forward fight. In Heaven's Feel ***spoilers*** he gets swallowed by the Shadow after fighting the Shadow and Saber Alter to the end to allow Illya to escape ***end of spoiler*** while this makes it sound pretty similar to fighthing to the end with Gilgamesh, I find the tragic ending of Illya dying and Heracles' Battle Continuation triggered after her death to be much, much more powerful
lol... when you name yourself that I feel like I'm actually speaking to Arcueid. Pretty much every servant has multiple stories to tell, so I choose the one I feel is the most dramatically potent. He's a great opponent in Fate, but we don't learn much about him in it, and in HF he gets pwned by Shirou's Nine Lives Blade Works. The UBW route adds a much better dramatic touch to his story, or so I feel.
Don't get why there's only one version of Heracles, would be cool to get Heracles as a servant in another class.
mlal89 Archer Heracles appears in Fate/Strange Fake, and he's super overpowered.
But archer heracles gets altered
Tsukihime part 2, please
Don't worry, that's coming^^
OtakuDaiKun ok
Who put the "glad" in "gladiator"? Not Heracles because he was Greek!
Just Some Guy with a Mustache Oh Disney... teaching kids the wrong information when they're still so young.
Artoria - Check
Cu Chulainn - Check
Emiya - Check
Gilgamesh - Check
Medea - Check
Medusa - Check
Heracles - Check
Sasaki Kojirou - In progress (hes not the real Sasaki right?)
Well thats major SPOILERS but essentially he is the concept of the Heroic Samurai created by "Caster=Medea" from what i gathered from Fate:GO.
Correct.
Somethings bug me out extremely like when the fate lore for a character is changed . Kinda makes like its not the actual hero when the story is changed
Usually the changes they make are to have them appear more sympathetic.
How come you only included UBW for the FSN portion of the lore?
I always tell their back stories, but when it comes to summarizing their on screen time I pick the route I feel is most dramatic and relevant.
Ah. I was just curious. I noticed it before but didn't really think much of it.
Make an pharaoh ozy lore videos
I am actually.
OtakuDaiKun thanks bro I’ve been waiting for a while and he’s my favorite servant
do Shiro Kotomine
What's the name of the first song ?
Alcides&Sétanta It's from the 2006 Fate Stay Night anime.
Thx
insert Disney's Hercules reference here
The thing is Hercules was the legitimate child of Zeus and Hera and not one of Zeus's "hide the banana" escapades with other Greek women in his movie and animated series.
So in a way Hercules was always the more favored son over Heracles the Berserker...
You mean HUNKules!
Did Gilgamesh disliked?
Is that lelouch with a beard?
OtakuDaiKun Yes
OtakuDaiKun Are you questioning my facial hair?!
hmm but why didnt he just take the loli and run i mean i get it hes a great warrior but still (and the gate of babayon is hack) after awhile they could have ran nothing really stoping him from picking her up and getting the fuck out
coolchrisable Well he is a berserker... not the sharpest tool in the shed. If he tried he'd probably get caught by enkidu.
yeah but he is pretty dam fast i mean he could have sacrificed himself so she could escape but she stayed i mean i get it its to the story but when you just sit down and think about it they had other options plus as you said he was mostly protecting her is she woudl have goteen out of harms way the fight could have went differently but since he was using all his power to keep the loli safe (pledge to protect) it back fired
c
True, Heracles is a LOT faster than Gilgamesh (if he doesn't use his ship)
MySpaceBarBroke Never mind, i fixed it That would be an odd scene. Heracles on the run in the forest being chased by a golden ship.