Targeting call overturned on hard hit to Marvin Harrison Jr. | College Football Playoff
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Targeting is initially called on Georgia’s Javon Bullard for a hard hit in the back of the end zone on Ohio State’s Marvin Harrison Jr., but is overturned after review.
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Lmao there is absolutely no consistency with these calls.
True, I feel like this hit was the same as derwin james last week. IMO he should’ve been ejected
Should’ve seen the one TCU got away with at the end
Yes there is goes against the Buckeyes in favor of the SEC
Correct.
Correct if they can't call that targeting they can't call any of them!
Maybe they should hook up the sound with the video because clearly there was the sound of helmet to helmet contact.. I do not care if you open your eyes while you rerun it, open your friggin ears.. you will hear that helmet to helmet contact.. its pathetic they do not make a call here for targeting or at the very least defenseless player.. and then you take out their #1 WR on top of it for the remainder of the game.. its pathetic.. but hey, when games are rigged, then you do whatever you want to do to make sure the team you are promoting gets every advantage, ever call.. and this was not the only really bad call either.. was it refs.. Pathetic.. I hope TCU trounces Georgia after this game..
No skin in this game, the refs weren't going to let either Big Ten team win today.....college and pro sports is like watching pro wrestling anymore!
Helmet to helmet isn't in & of itself targeting. Otherwise, there would be targeting on EVERY play. gee. B10er is just a sore loser, always complaining about calls, every time. Reference TCU/Mich.
So you can tell that the sound was two helmets hitting and not two shoulder pads hitting? Just an everyday SEC hit 🤷🏾♂️
Shoulder to torso contact, good football play
I also definitely heard the helmet-to-helmet contact. It was targeting all the way. Marvin is knocked senseless so what else could it be?
Can anyone tell me why this want at least unnecessary roughness or pass interference. I am a Georgia fan and I still don't agree with the hit. I don't think it was targeting, but it definitely did not look legal.
It wasn't "unnecessary" because tackling a receiver to knock a ball loose before they are down with a secured ball *is* a necessary football action. MHJ had just caught the ball, so it was no longer pass interference, and per the rules he was no longer fully defenseless (so no unnecessary roughness call either.) He led with his shoulder, and while he hit at full speed, he didn't launch (his feet are only off the ground from the force of the impact), he titled his head to the side specifically to AVOID any contact with the crown of his head. It was a good, hard, clean hit. That's an NFL hit, and one MHJ is going to experience multiple times going forward in his career. The moment you catch that ball, you have to secure it before you go down, or else it's incomplete.
The call itself was a bad one from the PAC-12 ref, as it should have been a personal foul with targeting, not just targeting. But even a personal foul might have been overturned, as it was just a heavy textbook tackle. Bullard treated MHJ like a practice dummy. BOOM!
@@katarh thanks for the knowledge👍
The $EC crew just doing it's job 💰💵💰💵💰💵💰
I'm not a Ga fan nor O St fan. Just stating the obvious
B10er just crying about a legal vicious hit & losing. Same thing happening w the TCU/Mich vids.
Those were PAC-12 refs.
That was a bogus play compromising player safety. Those refs helped UGA and everyone saw that.
Nope. Defender did exactly what he's supposed to do. Use his shoulder (not the crown of the helmet) & make hit below the head/neck area: the hit was shoulder-to-shoulder, without question. Contact w the helmet was incidental to the primary hit. It's football & contact w the helmet is going to happen & in most cases isn't illegal. Otherwise there would be targeting on every play.
Nah, that was a legal hit.
Woman moment
Legal hit dude. Shoulder first
I agree. It was a dirty A$$ play on a player who was gouging and hurting Georgia.
You didn't see the helmet to helmet because you're blind. That was a dirty hit.
That’s on qb u don’t set up your wr like that throw the ball away and not up for grabs
@@ricardosanu5467no that’s on the db. You don’t put your head down and lead with your helmet.
@@ricardosanu5467 no that's totally dirty ain't no setup nothing. You just don't go spear someone like that.
@@ricardosanu5467 doesn’t make a difference. Helmet to helmet, forcible contact to head/neck area, defenseless receiver. Should’ve been 1st and goal at the 1.
Nah and y’all are soft lol
Pac-12 refs strike again. Two more booth reversals vs the buckeyes
It was the most relaxed unbiased game I've ever seen from refs. Ohio state only had 4 penalties for 24 yards and Georgia had 4 for 44 yards. It was a big hit so they are taught to call targeting and let the booth review it. Booth saw it was shoulder to shoulder contact and reversed it as it should have been. Can't remove big hits or fans won't watch and traditional players that want to hit won't want to play.
U mean SEC refs?
Ain't no home advantage here boss!
@@YooperHatesOhioState Nope, that was a PAC-12 officiating team. You can blame the SEC refs for Michigan's loss, if you want.
Just listen to the SOUND. That is helmet to helmet, not shoulder pad to shoulder pad. Refs were cowards.
Horrible officiating.
MAGAt alert 😂. Let me guess “rigged”
I’m just saying, if it was the other way around, the OSU player is ejected.
I guess that happened do 2019 vs Clemson ring a bell
That hit was clean stop crying
@@lantetv2951 go to the last 20 seconds of the video and listen to the helmets collide
@@eliasdangerfield4157 go to the replay and see it wasn’t targeting
@@autonomouspilgrimage6137 did u listen to it?
Done with college fb. What a political/money hungry sport. They don't want the best teams to play in championships. Just money making/good for ratings teams
He got knocked out, lol! How do you get knocked out without forcible contact to the head/neck area?
D1 nutrition, d1 strength coach, god giving athletic D1 ability, the other person not knowin u comin
Well said.
Too soft that’s why. And he wanna play in the NFL 😂 yea alright bud good luck with that. Hit was clean as a virgin
Easy ..u ever seen a boxer get him in the body lol
he didn't get knocked out
There’s no way you pick up that flag… rigged.
pure incompetence and ego. michigan td reversal was insanity
@@mortystraphouse5077 did you feel the same way after an uncatchable ball in the endzone was called a PI and Ohio state promptly scored a touchdown after?
@@Luke-oe2cl 100% or how about the 3rd and 1 where Ohio state had a false start but they called off sides on Georgia and they weren’t even offsides
How about that awful field goal attempt tho was that in the script ? 😂😂
@@coryrussell2085 and the two missed field goals from Georgias kicker? Was that in the script or does it only apply when Ohio states kicker misses?
Idk how anyone can reverse this hit on a defenseless receiver when there is head down helmet to helmet. OSU was robbed
Because the force was delivered by the shoulder to the shoulder. Not head or neck. The helmet contact was incidental. The whiplash from the hit caused the concussion but the hit was legal
1:06. It's pretty clear the defender lowered his shoulder to make the hit which was shoulder-to-shoulder. Targeting doesn't mean there can't be helmet-to-helmet contact, otherwise every play would be targeting. The defenseless receiver rule doesn't apply either, since primary contact wasn't above the shoulders - legal hit was shoulder-to-shoulder.
No it’s wasn’t shoulder to shoulder! He was concussed and last time I checked getting hit in the shoulder doesn’t cause damage to the head! OSU was completely robbed and this was some $ec reffing!
@@SeraphicThunder I can't tell you how many times I've seen incidental forceful helmet-helmet contact be called as targeting. There's absolutely zero consistency with how they officiate this rule...
@@tommydevine9993 can't be incidental if it's forceful. Watch the hit again and slow it down. Also watch it full speed. The force of the blow was delivered with the shoulder. Whiplash causes concussions too. There were missed calls in the game but they got this one right
The network that paid millions to host the CFP has a lot of interest making sure the SEC is in the finals. I'm not saying conspiracy, but I am saying bias. This is a repeat of the Clemson game where reviews favored Clemson to facilitate a come back.
which is why tOSU's OLINE was allowed to hold all game right? Or the reason that the replay officials had to straighten out how the game officials tried to screw UGA on multiple calls like this one.
@Neal McCorkle if you watched that hit and thought picking up the flag was the correct call then you obviously ate way too many boiled peanuts
@@egbluesuede1220 Shoulder to shoulder is never called targetting and if you really watched the play frame by frame, you will see that that is all it was.
@Neal McCorkle We all did Homer. You can see and HEAR helmet to helmet contact. Your obviously a georgia fan trolling for reactions
@@egbluesuede1220 how did you "hear helmet to helmet contact" when a frame by frame viewing showed that there was not direct helmet to helmet contact? There is a slight bit of incidental contact of the helmets but nothing that qualifies as FORCIBLE contact except to the shoulder.
Another rigged OSU game
He launched himself which is a penalty. Maybe next time they can play in the Horse Shoe and even it out. What a screw job.
No y’all get spanked at horseshoe michigan proved that
Nope.
@@rickybobby1659 once in twenty years to one of the premier programs in the history of college football. I'll take that. When was UGA last competing for titles, 40 years ago with Hershel Walker. See you in 2060...lol
@@williamdavis600 Back2Back # GoDawgs
Ohio state fans are such baby sissies I’ve quite literally never seen anything like it. The Yankees of college football.
Good hit
Even the announcers are inconsistent with these calls
That’s a clear load and launch toward the head, defenders feet literally came off the ground because he jumps into it.. launch toward the head is a target. Don’t care what the espn crew has to say about their conferences team
That was a clear, clean hit. It was not a launch. It was shoulder to shoulder initial contact.
@@84Tacos thanks, now that you explained it so clearly I’ve changed my mind
Dirtiest hit I've saw all year. 10/10 times that's called targeting in any other game in the country. Refs did everything they could to keep GA in it. Unreal.
Bro fr it was like they realized Ohio was actually going to win and went on a 5 min rampage
Vicious, yes. Legal, yes. Dirty, no. Targeting, no. There you have it. All cleared up for you.
When it comes to these call on targeting or helmet to helmet they just keep moving the goal post can't help but think if this was uga in they hometown bowl it would been targeting
Home field advantage IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!
@@gregj831 where’s the helmet to helmet? It was shoulder to shoulder.
@@TheBg29st they can't because it wasn't
@@TheBg29st He definitely led with his shoulder, but saying that there was no helmet to helmet contact is just completely untrue; seen very explicitly if you slow down the clip…
Was the crown of the helmet used to make forcible contact on the opponent, or, if the player was defenseless, do we have forcible contact above the shoulders?
It was an incidental concussion. Don't worry guys.
I'm a Georgia fan but that right there ain't right! Goodness
It was absolutely Right….my goodness. They went shoulder to shoulder with incidental helmet contact…..didn’t lead with the helmet. This is football not tennis
Hit was vicious but legal. Defender did what he's supposed to do: use his shoulder & made primary contact w receiver's shoulder.
I know Ohio State fans that believe that was targeting are accused of viewing the play with Buckeye tinted glasses. And that Georgia fans that believe it was right to overturn the call are also accused of bias. That said, I agree with you that it was definitely targeting. It met all the criteria. The problem is the utter inconsistency around college football in adjudicating the call. It seems that on the same play, half the replay officials in college football would come down on the side of targeting, and the other half would say no. I think the best thing at this point would be to allow the call on the field to prevail. No replay review. Either the NCAA is serious about player safety or they're not. The ambiguous interpretation says they aren't.
@@jeffmartin5338it wasn’t targeting. You just don’t like the outcome
@@lordjamon Agreed!
You can literally hear the crack of their helmets hitting at 1:16. Completely changed the game unfortunately.
Defender launched his body (see his feet off the ground), made contact with the crown of his helmet to Harrison Jr’s helmet and wasn’t trying to play the ball at all. An obvious attempt at headhunting.
That was shoulder pads you should clean your ears
@@paulburgess1574 hey moron, you can literally see their helmets collide
Paul, if you could not hear the reporter literally say “oh theres a head to head collision” then you’re the one who needs the ear checking
@@gluurb3611 I watched the video over and over I don't need a reporter to tell me anything I seen it
Ohio State haters…it was clearly targeting
It wasn’t lol
No it wasn’t! Lol!😂 It was shoulder to shoulder!
Rigged. If ohio state is down by 14, do they overturn that call? Not a chance.
Gotta say I agree. Only with Harrison out of the game did Georgia have a chance to make up their score deficit, and they knew it. They had to get him off the field by any means necessary, so they did.
It wasn't targeting. Good call. Another B10er just eating up the SEC conspiracy BS.
Keep crying 😭😂🍼
@@stevescruby1343 Same thing with Alabama last year. Alabama outscored Jawjuh 50-30 over both games until Williams got hurt, and only then were they able to slow us down enough to win the game. Jawjuh can't beat elite offenses without having their most important players besides the QB on the shelf
@@darthsaban8665 OSU can't beat elite teams period. Try to tell us that Georgia was at full strength
Screw the crooked refs and the SEC.
They called it back because ohio state would have won the game there. The reffs had to give Georgia a chance to come back or they wouldn't have gotten outta Atlanta alive.
Launched and made forcible contact to the head/neck area this was way more targeting than the one in the michigan/tcu game.
Cry more
@@UraPhag Oh my whatever will I do... this game was literally a who cares for the vast majority of the college football fandom outside of GA and Ohio, at least TCU and Michigan had some novelty in it.
@@Irishhaftf is the novelty behind a team in Texas that ain’t Texas? But yea Michigan is a novelty act… a has been vs a never was lol
It was blatant targeting in the TCU game
LOL he did not launch. Running into the guy because you are running full speed is not launching and he hit him with his shoulder. Good overrule on targeting.
I think it's time for the game officials to start wearing body cameras at this point. BS refereeing!!!!
Good ol' PAID OFF officials citing with the SEC again, never fails. This is the definition of targeting.
You’re soft or you can’t read because this is clean. Even Chris says “he hit him with the shoulder pad”
Nothing clean about that hit@@hiimpaul4654
1. defenseless player. The ball hung up in the air. The receiver was concentrating on it. The defensive player gets a 15 yard running start and slams into him. 2. helmet-to-helmet. You have to be blind not to see it. 3. Targetting. He clearly launched
Helmet to helmet was incidental to the legal hit using the shoulder to crush the receiver's shoulder, which is legal. B10er just doesn't want to be objective, just a sore loser. Defenseless receiver doesn't apply either & defender hit was below the head/neck area. Watch the video.
@@jky3889 At least you admit that there helmets made contact unlike most of the SECers that want to believe in the possibility that it was a shoulder concussion. But the review booth never made the argument that the helmet contact was incidental where a strong case would need to be made to over turn the ruling on the field. They claimed the contact didn't happen.
Tell me the moment he launched. Post a time-stamp. Because I keep watching it and all I see is a defender running through a receiver and having his feet planted firmly on the ground when they collide.
Wrong on all counts.
He didn’t even look at the ball, it wasn’t a play at the ball and he clearly launched himself
Why does every Ohio State semifinal game come down to a targeting call
I'm going to lose my mind
Happened to Michigan yesterday too and a robbery of a clear TD
@@floppy9532 Me too 😔
@@YooperHatesOhioState yeah, I'm in no way a Michigan fan, but their was some really obvious B10 discrimination last night.
It didn’t come down to targeting call. It came down to y’all missing a field goal. The target call was in third quarter
Definitely targeting. Even though he lowered his shoulder, he still hit him with the helmet.
incidental. helmet to helmet happens on every play might as well eject everyone
@@craigstevens9351 It doesn't happen to a defenseless player on every play.
@@michaelchandler8022 I swear people so dumb😂
Launching a shoulder is not an accident to the head or neck area
The little respect Ohio State gained with their play tonight is being shredded by their goofy fanbase. That was a hard nosed hit looking to bring so much havoc that the ball is jarred loose. He led with the shoulder quite intentionally avoiding using his helmet and avoiding striking Harrison’s helmet.
Be salty you lost a good game but save this big10 whining for your next conference game. Sheesh…
If that wasn’t targeting, he definitely hit him in the head area and he was defenseless as he was just looking for the ball, unlike the defensive back who was just head hunting. Cheap shot, if they didn’t knock Harrison out, we all know who won that game, really really
Hahahahaha you’re delusional
..kinda like in 2002 against Miami? We know who won that game too.
@@bundeswehr7676 that was up for debate (pass interference). According to the national media Ohio State shouldn’t of even been able to keep up with Miami’s “speed“.
Just looked up the score Georgia won. Looking at the replay he led with the shoulder. If the roles were reversed you would think it was a clean hit. Looking at the stats Georgia had more passing and rushing yardage as well as more yards penalized and they were a little better in the end. Ryan Day went conservative at the end and it cost him.
@@gregtimmerii4288 ..nonsense. The play predated instant replay. I’ve watched it over and over. No debate.
This is not targeting, per definition of the rule book
Agreed!
Bullard wasn't going for the ball. Bullard never saw the ball. This was an assault. People are seeing what they want to see. Worst call ever. The last replay from the goal post angle CLEARLY shows a shot to the head and at the very minimum a personal foul. Bullard new it too. Nobody was High fiving him because they saw what he did.
You don't have to play the ball to tackle a receiver. The reciever was actively attempting to make a catch. At that point, he is fully in play and can be tackled. So long as the defender does not interfere with the ability to attempt the catch, physical contact is legal. This contact came when the reciever was already in the motion of attempting to catch the ball, so it is legal.
That was a clean hit! Not targeting! So therefore, it was shoulder to shoulder!
If you just look up the targeting rule this is 100% targeting, per the NCAA rule.. just sayin go look it up
Didn’t launch, didn’t hit the head or neck area, didn’t lead with the helmet. How do you think this is targeting?
@@jamesdavies2739 He Clearly launched and hit a defenseless player in the Head. THATS. THE NCAA RULE. LOOK IT UP.
@@jamesdavies2739are you blind, clear helmet to helmet and he definitely launched
Initial contact was shoulder to shoulder. He has to lead with the crown of the helmet for it to be targeting. If his shoulder hit first, he lead with his shoulder...
Crown of helmet was also revised to only be top center radius of helmet. Along with other parts of the rule allowing for less confusion. Clearly some people didn't watch any other bowl games where guys were hit much harder and still targetting was overturned. Also the guy hit wasn't as soft and kept playing after.
He ran across the field, left off his feet, and made helmet to helmet contact on a defenseless WR. If it isn't targeting, what is? Then they should have let the play on the field stand. The review system should be used to only to reverse calls on the field when the evidence clearly shows that a bad call was made. Instead it just adds bias to the game. It also puts other players on the field in danger because a lot of teams would have responded by taking out GA's QB.
Hit was shoulder-to-shoulder. Watch the video where it's slowed down. gee. 1:06. Helmet to helmet was incidental to the primary hit. It was a legal hit: vicious, yes; targeting, no.
@@jky3889 LOL. You didn't have the right angle and apparently can't hear. He was off his feet, and it was helmet to helmet.
It sure helps though, to have home field advantage.
Absolutely!! Can let the big bad SEC look bad!! Not a true W!
Please tell me where the helmet to helmet contact is I keep seeing you idiots say helmet to helmet but after the hundred times I've seen this replay I've yet to see it nor has anybody else but ohio state fans so please explain
I am not sure why this wasn't just reduced to a personal foul. He aims high and makes contact to his head. A receiver is defenseless when they are in the process of catching the ball. The DB can hit him but not in the head. Why is it targeting or nothing?
Yes, unnecessary roughness or hitting a defenseless receiver, although it sure looked like helmet to helmet.
@@tmaz2701 Helmet to helmet - no. It was shoulder pad to shoulder pad. Slow down the video to 0.5 speed.
I was upset he wasn’t carted off the field on a stretcher. Overall that was a clean hit but was ultimately weak.
It was called targeting on the field (which it was not). They (refs) cannot make new penalties during a review except for when the review is initiated for that penalty (i.e. targeting or too many men in the field).
He was clearly aiming to knock the ball loose. It’s called playing defense.
Clean football hit!!!
Not according to the rulebook.
Must have been according to the overturned call!!!
*REFS in *BOOTH gave GA the Game on that Reversed-Call...Marvin was Concussed!
Doesn’t mean it was targeting , it was a clean hit u jus soft asl
@lantetv2951 launching to the head or neck area of a defenseless player is the rule. This is a clear shot of that and you guys had no answers to that point.
Buckeye Nation gets f**ked again.
I’m a Michigan fan and as much as I love to see an osu player get rocked… that was definitely targeting lmfao blatant missed call
No tf it wasn’t
Bro what do u know football targeting is when u leading with your head he led with his shoulder
@@fredhoward8014 you gonna tell me the ground caused the concussion two? Like all other clueless Georgia fans? & don’t worry I played in college & coached at a top HS program. That’s the kind of hit 25 years ago people would be jumping up & down! But into todays college football it’s a different story!
B1G cry together
No that wasn’t targeting!
This is exactly why marquee players have been opting out of these bowls. That hit also, most likely turned the game to Georgia's favor because prior to it, Harrison was really ripping them up. I've never before seen a team duck so many death blows as Georgia did last night. Does anybody have an injury update on Marvin or Cade?
You touch the football, you’re fair game.🎉
Shoulder to shoulder was where the initial impact occurred. The concussion came from the force. It’s football.
@@philmcrackinnow an example of a defenseless player is "A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier".
Receiver had not yet caught the ball nor had to time to protect himself from a hit that came to the head/neck area from a defender that was PLAYING THE MAN not the ball. It was a text book dirty hit
@@insertnamehere2746 CLEAN as a whistle. Plus he stepped outta bounds. Ineligible receiver before anything else 😂
If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Terrible call by the replay refs. This was the difference in the game. Head to head contact which both the view from the quarterback, and the view from the Georgia side clearly showed. This would have given Ohio State a first and goal on the 4 yard line. Ohio State had to settle for three points, instead of having a first and goal on the four. Ohio State scored touchdowns when they were this close every time. Georgia wins by one. The refs take away four points from Ohio State here. One of three calls in the second half in which the refs changed the outcome of the game.
And then, Marvin, Ohio State’s all-American, receiver is out with a concussion for the remainder of the game. Stroud had trouble finding open receivers after this point, including at the end.
The rule doesn't say you can't have helmet-to-helmet, otherwise there would be targeting on every play. gee. Legal hit was to the shoulder w defender using his shoulder as he's supposed to do. B10er crying about call every time. Same w TCU/Mich.
What were the other two calls? I had to work and missed the game.
Keep crying I love it 😭😂🍼
@@johnmusgrave7268 so be mad at Smith-Njigba for hailing on his team. Ohio St still would have had an All American in the game.
CLEAN HIT. Glad they got this one right, dont like it go watch soccer
Targeting is a stupid rule, but this does look like targeting to me. I definitely don't see how anyone could see enough to overturn it.
if that is targeting your soft af lmao
@@13hoursTillILand this dude is in the air reaching for a pass, gets it and this dude rocks him helmet to helmet. There shouldn't be any such thing as a targeting penalty, but Ohio State's been screwed on it so many times I'd like to see it apply to someone else.
@@lukyguy1240 He lead with his shoulder, their helmets hardly touched.
@@lukyguy1240 Georgia defense bailed with elite receivers injured again. Jameson Williams and John Metchie all over again
Led with helmet... I don't know how college football rules work but I've seen this play get called a foul in many NFL games this season. Changed the outcome of the game.
Not a fan of either team, but that looked like targeting to me.
It’s not targeting! Shoulder to shoulder! Clean hit!!
@@A.I.P519 Hmm.... I just watched it again. Hey, I really can't stand tOSU, so it's easy for me to agree with you. The defender's head was to the side, but there was helmet to helmet contact from what I saw.
THE PLAY THAT WON GA THE GAME
You're 100% correct. I've never seen a team duck so many death blows as Georgia.
uga fan and u probably right too bad it was clean
@@DS-nf1mm If you are trying to kill someone.
Isn’t it convenient that targeting calls are always taken away against anyone plying Ohio State! But if OSU targets anyone he is a piece of trash with second look on replay!
@@DS-nf1mm it wasnt clean, you’re stupid.
That was targeting...sorry!!!
No it wasn’t! It was shoulder to shoulder! So therefore, it’s not targeting!
How was this not "forcible contact to the head/neck area" on a defenseless receiver"???
Said it and showed it in the video, contact was shoulder to shoulder. The helmet to helmet was incidental and not forcible.
Shoulder to shoulder
It was shoulder to chest, not helmet-to-helmet.
Definitely helmet to helmet. You'd have to be blind not to see it!
@@kennyferrell2532 Georgia has won 1 title on 49 years! They beat TCU it’s 2 they are a great program now (but they don’t realize they got a long way to go before their franchise is ever considered the best blue blood that’s bama or OSU!
1:28 "I did not see his head spin back". I'm sorry, what?
then you are blind
Look again.. his head snaps to the right.
@@BrkAwa Did you not see the quotes?
If thats not targeting, I dont know what is.
Then you don't know what is. ha ha. Watch the video. The defender CLEARLY lowered his shoulder just before making contact & just as he's supposed to do & contact was shoulder-to-shoulder below the head/neck area just as it's supposed to be done. Any helmet-to-helmet was incidental contact which happens on every play. gee.
@@jky3889 screenshoted it at 1:02 and its definetly targeting Targeting, generally defined as leading with the helmet to make forcible above-the-shoulder contact with an opponent, continues to carry with it a 15-yard penalty and the ejection of the flagged player. Players ejected in the second half are required to sit out the first half of the following game.Aug 18, 2022 from ncaa
You clearly don’t know what is
@@OSUVSICHAGAN no tf it’s not
@@OSUVSICHAGAN your 1 millisecond frame of a blurry screenshot literally means nothing
Can anyone argue against defenseless WR and aiming for head or neck of the WR?
Sure their is no crown, which only removes ejection. But that is clearly 1st and goal.
Harrison is done for the game but it isn’t targeting? No reports. No coverage. Commercial break. Strange.
The crown of the helmet thing is not required for it to be targeting in the case of a defenseless player. The fact that the guy took a 15 yard running head start at a defenseless player and merely made contact with the head with the side of his helmet or any other part of his body is more than enough. "ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. "
@ARenTube It does have to be to the head or kneck area in initial contact. Contact first initiated was shoulder to shoulder.
@@brucejordan8777 He clearly hit Harrison in the head with his helmet it wasn't a little tap.
@@brucejordan8777 I believe you are incorrect in the case of a defenseless player.
@@bigboy_mocka9818 Defender used his shoulder. 1:06 mark. It's pretty clear he lowered his shoulder to make the hit. Helmet to helmet was incidental, albeit maybe "wasn't a little tap" but still incidental.
Clearly targeting and certainly no evidence to overturn it. The no call at the end of the TCU/Michigan game was just as bad.
Not true at all
It's worse than a no call. It takes more evidence to overturn a call. the video evidence clearly confirmed the call on the field, it certainly provided no where close to the evidence required to overturn the call.
Clearly shoulder-to-shoulder which is what the defender is supposed to do. B10ers always crying about 1 call. Same w TCU/Mich.
OMG…only caught the last 10 minutes on a stream in Canada. How is that NOT targeting? I agree with others, one point win this probably won Georgia the game
Forcible contact delivered to the shoulder not the head and neck area, incidental head contact between the sides of their helmets is not forcible impact being delivered
@@stevenclark1844 incidental helmet to helmet has always been considered targeting. Intent never factored until SEC and Disney demanded Georgia to get he calls.
Because it doesn't meet the criteria.
because shoulder to shoulder is never considered targetting.
Shoulder pad to shoulder pad. It's a contact sport.
Notice also that there is not a clear replay showing those two helmets do not hit. There really isn't a clear angle, and it was ruled a target on the field.
You can hear the click, that sound is not shoulder pads but plastic from the helmets.
Watch at 1:13.
It should have stood
Targeting call under review is treated differently then other reviews. They need to find the support for targeting which they didn’t find.
Also for those that have never played football. Shoulder pads are plastic also and make the same pop noise.
@@andrewwilborn4144 Shoulder pads? No way, that click was helmet to helmet. It is supported with other angles to the replay.
I don’t know why the ESPN broadcast booth was saying it was shoulder to shoulder lol. Clearly a launch and helmet and helmet to helmet hit. It’s the whole point of the rule.
He lead with the shoulder, hit with the shoulder. Clean hit. Made the right call.
Just a hard hit. Legal. Unfortunate about the concussion - I hate it for anyone. Dawgs move on - Buckeyes can watch on TV.
That was definitely targeting and I quote “ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the lelmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder.”
@@NickyGo22 Don’t bother. Terry doesn’t know the rules. And more importantly, he doesn’t care to.
@@scottfauber Quote Matt Austin "I agree with replay - it was close but not targeting". Sorry fellows. Better luck next year.
The targeting rule says specifically targeting is defined as: "taking aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or block or playing the ball." Unquestionably this was forcible contact beyond making a legal tackle, and was definitely not playing the ball. Further, Article 4 of Rule 9 Section 1 says: "No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head and neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder." Again, this was 100% forcible contact to the head and neck area. Lastly, the defender also launched himself at the receiver, with "an upward or forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact to the head or neck area." This play absolutely checked all the boxes for targeting. It's not even questionable.
If the hit wasn't to the head/neck area, how did he get a concussion?.....how could this call be reversed?
He didn't. He even said he wanted to come back into the game but the coaching staff kept telling him no, even though he had no symptoms.
The ground usually causes a concussion.. man was running all night without his mouth piece in...
Do some research he wasn’t concussed at all. He was just hurting after that hard hit. And medical staff/ coaches were just playing it safe.
@@Ace-mw9pm He was placed on concussion protocol said Ryan day after the game.
@@Ace-mw9pmhe was literally unconscious
That’s targeting and cost Ohio State the Game
It wasn't, but cope some more.
That wasn’t targeting!
I LOVE how LOUD u hear the helmets hit in the replay😂😂😂 it’s okay bulldogs y’all needed rigged calls to win on a shanked Fg 😂😂
Shoulder pads make noises too
Cry hard, Bullard owns you
So many salty OSU fans grasping for straws because they lost. This was a clean hit. #22 was running full speed and led with his shoulder. That was a hard hit #18 took and in real time when you see that its better to throw the flag and review the play. On review though you can clearly see he was not aiming for #18 head or neck. The contact was made to his shoulder and he got whiplashed really hard from that force.
Hey moron, launching yourself upwards at the head and neck area is grounds for targeting even with incidental contact. The defender didn’t even look for the ball and you morons are actively defending a kid landing a cheap shot and headhunting our best player. I don’t even know what to say except you are blatantly arrogant. There are mutiple angles of the call
@@SlowNSteady123 Classic salty OSU fan trying to make excuses for a clean hit in football and call it "headhunting". He did not launch himself upward, and he did not aim for the neck/head area. It was shoulder to shoulder contact. When they slowed it down you can see the main point of contact. You will don anything but admit you got beat by a better team.
Smartest Georgia fan
I am not a fan of either team. That said, this was clearly targeting. Bullard could've still made the hit without launching into Harrison. He was not looking for the ball. He was strictly making a hit. How does Harrison leave the game with a concussion? The people upstairs took a look and said, "We can't allow an OSU team that didn't even win their own division in the BIG, win this game and likely win the National title". I think there was far more consideration than the play on the field in overturning an obvious targeting call. Just my opinion.
He didn’t launch into him, His feet never left the ground.
@@gunpuppy3533are we watching the same video? Both feet clearly left the ground
@@fastball2111 pause the video at 1:02. Both feet are clearly on the ground as he’s making the hit. His feet only left the ground AFTER impact.
@@gunpuppy3533 he left his feet after launching at an opponent. If that’s not targeting idk what is
The refs blew this play (cheap shot) should have been a penalty. Targeting. Personal Foul. Pass Interference. Could have been any of these.. But a no call? The defensive player left his feet in a forward upward motion hitting Harrison in the head with his shoulder pad and helmet. That is Targeting. Hitting a defenseless player. That is a Personal Foul. Head not turned not looking for the ball and running into the receiver. That is Pass Interference. But a no call...That Bad Referring. Look at Smart's facial expression he even knew it was a penalty. Such a horrible no call.
It makes you wonder what's really going on here. Is this sports corrupt.
This is a defenseless player. He also without a doubt made helmet contact. He even slightly put his head down at the end. I have no reason to pick either team to win. I'm neutral. This is just so obvious that it makes me wonder what's really going on here... that was the definition of a defenseless player. Do they really care about these boy futures 🤔
If you watched the Michigan game, you would see the refs and playoffs are corrupt. The non-targetting call in the Michigan game, the kid clearly launched at the player with his head down. They also "missed" a facemask call when a michigan receiver slipped. And a few other things in that game.
I want to see the officiating crews Venmo accounts after this 😂 really stinks to watch a team get cheated out of such a good game…We all know who really won though 🙄 ! Georgia really wasn’t ready for the buck eyes and we all know it🤣
Thank YOU A REAL PERSON WHO UNDERATANDS
They weren’t but this also wasn’t targeting there was no helmet to helmet also y’all choked the game respect to stroud though
I know I can't believe they missed Harrison stepping out the back of the endzone. That was illegal touching, but they weren't going to call it. Instead they tried to bail Ohio St out with a targetting call. Thank God the replay official wasn't on the payroll.
What about the timeout that was granted after the successful 4 down play?! Officiating was terrible and totally influenced the outcome of this game in Georgia’s favor. I’m not a fan of either team but hate to see an outcome that wasn’t really based on the game play but officiating.
@@KinzuNight not even relevant. An illegal touching penalty wouldn't override a targeting penalty...
It is targeting because he lowered his head and made forcible contact. His head clearly was not up as his facemask didn't make contact. It wasn't textbook like the Michigan game no-call. That kid launched and led with his helmet down that was textbook spearing, and that by rule does not have to be helmet to helmet. But those refs missed a facemask on an earlier played where the receiver slipped and the defensive player grabbed the facemask. corruption clearly exists in the playoffs.
Kinda like the fact that Ohio State's Oline was holding uga's DLine every other play and it was NEVER called. Even some Buckeye fans that are friends of mine admitted this. So, if there was corruption, it was on both sides and it's a wash. UGA won the game and was the better team.
Same thing that happened in the Michigan game
Yes. I wasn't rooting for Michigan, but their lack of a targeting call on that last play was gutless.
no not the same thing, the Michigan player was not defenseless, he caught the pass turned and became a runner........targeting in that situation requires crown of helmet contact to his head.
No it wasn’t
@@garywascovich8436 Which is exactly what happened
The difference was that the Mich player was a runner and not a defenseless receiver.
1990s? Normal. But that’s exactly the type of man-as-missile hit causing injury that the rules have been trying to eliminate for 20 years. Zero attempt to make a play on the ball, tucks his arms in, and launches his whole body while the receiver is looking up to the ball. Textbook unnecessary roughness PF, even without helmet-to-helmet contact
sad. 20 years later since discovery of football brain injuries and associated suicides and referees/replay still haven't figured it out yet.
@@DL-iy3lf Only way to stop brain injuries in football is to end football, which is already slowly happening
@@christianorourke5877 I don't think that's ever gonna happen. Its America's favorite sport.
I mean anything can happen once the ball has been touched. Also what tf was he supposed to do let him catch the ball and get a touchdown. He was def trynna hit him hard enough to drop the ball or just push him out
It wasn't targeting & the defenseless receiver rule doesn't apply either. Hit, as vicious as it was, was legal: defender used his shoulder & didn't make primary contact above the shoulder. Helmet contact was incidental. Also, hit was after receiver touched football.
If this isn’t targeting, then what is? Bullard launched himself into a defenseless receiver, making helmet-to-helmet contact. 1:12. What is even the point of having a targeting rule if it is not enforced? I can guarantee you there will be more concussions because of non-calls like this. Why should defenders not target defenseless players if they know they will not be penalized, let alone ejected? This also changed the game. OSU gets 3 points instead of 1st and goal at the 3 yd line. And it knocked out the most dangerous receiver in the game.
Its forcible contact to the head or neck. The forcible contact was shoulder to shoulder and the helmet contact is incidental
@@AcidAdventurer by rule that shouldn’t matter
Good hospital ball by Stroud.
I guess He didn’t have to try to catch the ball either
Targeting is leading with the crown of the helmet and making forcible contact.
This penalty effects the player who is targeting more than the player being hit as if you you lead with the crown of your helmet, you are at much more risk of damaging your own head or neck, which is why you are ejected for the game in case severe damage is done. It can also do a lot of damage to the player being hit or targeted, but mostly to protect the player that is targeting.
In this case, the tackle was lead with the shoulder as you can see clear as day that shoulder contact was made first and then the helmets his after shoulder contact was made. Helmets are going to hit, that's why they have them. That does not make it an illegal tackle though
I’m not a fan of targeting, but this play is the exact reason targeting was created. The defender turned himself into a torpedo and went high on the wide receiver. What is the point of having the rule if you are going to overturn something like this. Furthermore, the reason it wasn’t helmet to helmet is because Harrison jr realizes a human torpedo is inbound and turns his shoulders to prevent himself from turning to Ryan Shazier.
Also, it’s pretty hard to get up to Harrison’s head height when he is standing straight up and you are much shorter than he is. The defender was knew what he was doing. Lastly, I see people calling illegal touching on Harrison jr, but he was forced out bounds by Ringo.
1:06. Defender used his shoulder & hit receiver shoulder-to-shoulder and did not use the crown of the helmet. The helmet-to-helmet contact was incidental to the legal hit. Targeting is above the shoulder & typically w the crown of the helmet. The defenseless receiver rule wouldn't apply either since the hit was shoulder-to-shoulder, not the head/neck area.
@@jky3889 he wasn't making a play on the ball and goes straight for the top. He was head hunting terrible over turn
No he did not. He ran right into him. he was not launching and made the hit with his shoulder. At no time did the defender make an upward motion. It was pure running motion.
It's a great read, but you're wrong. It's shoulder to shoulder.
Homefield call there.
PAC 12 referees
@@rickybobby1659 They missed every holding call on both sides of the ball, but they got this one right under review. Bullard was careful to lead with his shoulder and tilt his head to the side, but there was a whooooole lot of weight behind that tackle even if it wasn't targeting.
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The big picture that they don't want you to see is that all sports are RIGGED!!! That means professional and collegiate! Anyone that says otherwise is living in a fantasy world! If the officials had let that call stand, they knew the game was over for Georgia and they couldn't have that! Too much money in play! If Georgia was ahead in the game like OSU was and OSU got called for that penalty that call would not have been reversed! They wanted Georgia to win!!! In the real world, at that moment, after seeing the call reversed, the head coach of OSU should have forfeited the game and marched his players off the field because he knew the FIX was in!!!
Big facts I live bet the game as soon as they overturned the call
You are delusional to think football is rigged. It would actually be harder than faking the moon landing which I’m sure you believe also. Too many people would have to be in on it & keep their mouth shut which is impossible
@@treywilliams5400 it’s rigged
@@treywilliams5400 Dude, you sound like you were just born - not knowing anything!
One of these guys is going to be an NFL SUPERSTAR
The other one , eh, not so much! Lmao
i hope Marvin get better 💔 that’s some bs
Marvins a wuss
Clean hit tho
@@hokey8738 Yup, clean illegal hit to the head.
@@cssc5576 nah you trippin he's NICE frfr
Part of the game. It was a clean hit.
Its a defenseless receiver
ESPN didn't think so
Only defenseless if there isn't a play on the ball. Marvin was most definitely trying to catch the ball.
@@forbudt4u2 there was zero attempt to go after the ball
@@daniellee8162 the same espn that thinks everything is racist?
@the citizen What's your point? Marvin attempted to catch the ball. A defender has every right to hit a player hard to cause an incompletion once the offensive player touches the ball. Now, had he hit him BEFORE the ball touches Marvin's hand, you have a case. It was a good play.
That's targeting. Receiver was defenseless.
100%
It's not because he hit him more in the shoulder buddy
Was he just supposed to let him catch it lol
@@bj906he led with his flipping helmet. Put it directly into his face mask. That is the definition of targeting.
@@mattn5899 clearly shoulder to shoulder
Helmet to helmet worst call ever
Nope! Shoulder to shoulder!
Wow, pick up the flag, paralyze the receiver, and make it so the game isn’t over. Call timeout after a successful punt fake, overturn a 4th down stop that was too close to change. I’ll give Georgia credit for winning and playing hard, but cmon.
That bowers play was obviously a first down . You couldn’t get a better camera angle showing that was obvious lol
@@di114n2 True, but his point still stands. There are calls that don't go your way every game, but when the review booth takes the time to look at the game from every angle and overturns a clearly good call on the field, it shows some sort of clear bias. That call probably took 4 point off the board and changed the outcome of the game.
Every single one of Ohio State’s big plays came because their OL held like crazy
That time out was called before the play call. Watch again
I don't know why so many ppl say it was after. You can watch replays and you'll see
As a Ohio state fan I don’t think it was targeting
But I do think that player had some type of intentions to hurt him an he came from all the way across the field not knowing that ball was gunna even be close to him was an still hit him was like a bounty was on his head or sum but it wasn’t targeting but he sure did try to kill him but that’s football but I do think he had I’ll wil coming alll the way across the field to hit him like that
@@jeffreymiller3349 they should look into it. I kinda wonder that too same with the stover injury
You sound like you are willing to be objective. If you really do think that Bullard is a bloodthirsty madman just out there trying to injure other players, I’d respectfully ask that you go back and watch Bullard’s sack on Stroud from earlier in the game. Stroud never saw him coming from his blindside.
Bullard could have tuned him up good-fashion and quite possibly ended his night. Bullard is capable of knocking the stuffing out of a fellow, as we’ve seen. Please watch as Bullard at the last instant sidesteps and eases Stroud down to the ground instead of going for the kill shot in the middle of his back. If he’s out to injure, why not injure the opposing QB on that play when Stroud is teed up perfectly for exactly that?
Bullard turned his shoulder at the last second on this hit on the 6’4” Harrison, who took the shot in his shoulder from the (possibly) 5’10” LBOH, instead of in his ribs, because Harrison’s very last stride was quite long as he dragged his trail foot to try to stay in bounds, lowering his entire body several inches immediately before the arrival of LBOH, bringing his shoulder in line with the shoulder of the considerably shorter Bullard.
Hold whatever opinion you will on this, but objective evidence is just not there for your assertion that Bullard was playing with intent to injure Harrison.
That wasn’t targeting at all!!
Wow! so the crack of that helmet hitting Harris wasn’t targeting ? Unbelievable!
You understand that all players have plastic shoulder pads that pop when they hit each other hard too, right? It was shoulder to chest and that caused Harrison's injury, which was confirmed as more of a whiplash injury that a clear concussion. However you can get a concussion when your head moves so fast in one direction without direct contact, that your brain actually slams into the inside of your own head.
Lmao u obviously never played football
@@cragre28 you said that the shoulder pads pop when they hit EACH OTHER
then you say it was shoulder to chest
how would they pop then?
@@gluurb3611 The shoulder pads go all the way to just above the nipple on the chest and some go down below that. If you have rib guards on, they go all the way to your upper hips.
@@cragre28 alright but i still dont understand how he got a concussion, if the contact was shoulder to shoulder, how would that even happen?
it cant be from hitting the ground since hes hit the ground on his head many times before
Commentator said he did not see a the head bounce back from the hit. Well it was clearly seen in several angles. Game was rigged. Sad thing is it will never be ruled in reverse, they got away with it. So who was the Most Valuable Player?
Read up on college rules on hitting! He came in if you slow down shows him target him! How would Marvin Harris be knock out ? Bs call cost the game
That was not targeting. The initial hit was shoulder to shoulder. Because of the high rate of speed, the right side of the defender's helmet smacks the left side of the offensive player's helmet which is not targeting. It wasn't forceable contact with the crown of the helmet or shoulder to the head or neck area.
Read the rules fucktard, it was targeting
@@FadeToBlack740 Oh, we have an internet gangster. Yeah, read the rule and watch the play frame by frame.
Agreed!
The refs wants to keep it close to give georgia a chance to win. They don't want to make cheating look too obvious. Sick of the politics in sports. OSU just made a FG and now OSU up by 3. Who wants to bet that Georgia will now eat up the clock and win by a TD? If Georgia can't move the ball, the refs will help them.
They won by the touchdown you got it right. Should’ve done that on draft books could’ve got some money
B10ers every year. It's like a broken record (from back in the day). Probably believes the stolen election lies & other conspiracy stuff.
GO DAWGS‼️‼️
You are 100% right. Buckeye Nation is fed up with getting f**ked. First it was that abortion with the Refs during the Clemson game and now this.
Helmet looks like it slightly made contact but his shoulder absorbed 90% of it.
You don't get a concussion from being hit in the shoulder.
@@JBTG33 oh you diagnosed him with a concussion did ya
@@JBTG33 are you dumb do you know what a concussion is you don't need to be hit in the head to get one idiot look it up the sudden stop causes his brain to hit the skull which can cause a concussion 🙄🙄🙄you people make me laugh
@@JBTG33except he didn’t have a concussion and called it a good hard football play” himself 😂😂 apparently your coaches kept him out for their fear of his own safety but hey.. yall have a narrative to push 🤐
@JBTG33 did you see the impact his head made with the turf? That's what did it my guy. Face mask straight into it.
Why would an espn commentator disagree with the overturned call? The SEC and ESPN are in bed together.
Not targeting. Overruled because:
- Defender turned his body and led with his shoulder to deliberately avoid helmet to helmet
- Contact was primarily body to body, and if there was any helmet contact it was secondary and minimal.
Foolish pass by Stroud. Just about his only mistake of the game.
UGA had more passing yards, more rushing yards, more yards per pass, more yards per rush. UGA won fair and square.
Agreed!!
Translation: I'm a Georgia fanboy and I can't admit that we got ref help to win
Vicious hit!
So he’s supposed to let him catch the ball???😭😭
@@footballvidd2337 okay there’s this concept really cool, it’s called *swatting* if you haven’t heard of it that’s cool but it’s when you block the pass with that thing at the end of your arm called a hand, and he absolutely could have done that
@@darksunday3012 it’s football pal
Welcome to the SEC. It just means more.
@@TheMCJ2011You’re right. I should know better especially considering that I played SEC myself.
Harrison was in the end zone and you can not tell me that he had to run out from 15 yards away and drop his shoulder and helmet into him. Gave him a concussion and was out for the game. You can't get any more targeting.
It was a legal hit, not targeting & defenseless receiver rule doesn't apply either. Defender did what he's supposed to to: didn't use crown of helmet & primary contact was below the head/neck. Hit was shoulder-to-shoulder. 1:06. It's pretty clear.
@@jky3889 🤡🤡🤡
@@jky3889 If you watch the past what you marked you will see the defender running out from the red zone even after the other defender already took him down. OMG
Sorry the other defender didn't have him down but what was that hit gonna do? Push him out of the end zone there's no argument.
Yea no kap he not knocking him out like dat if it was shoulder to shoulder
A shoulder doesn't make a crack so loud it sounds like a tree branch snapping. This was definitely a referee making money.
Defender didn't lead w the helmet & didn't make contact w crown of the helmet. Primary hit was shoulder-to-shoulder. Receiver's head did hit the turf, so that may have compounded the original hit. ???
Reply the hit in slow motion, a shoulder to shoulder hit was the main impact. It wasn’t ruled tampering because the impact area was not to the head or neck.
These dudes work for ESPN and Sec. Come on man that was Terrible Bill polan
He’s knocked out. But no contact to helmet … okayyy
Contact with the ground. Just like Tua's injury in the nfl
@@zs2977 your dreaming. That was helmet to helmet
If it wasn't a hit to the head then why wouldn't the Ohio State medical staff allow him back in the game?
That was an SEC hit. Welcome to our world.
@@keithphillips3048 lol you know they soft up north
@@TheTaekwon3 And they don’t have any brains to hurt down south.
@@keithphillips3048 Child please. You mean cheap shots.
Because the contact to the ground is what causes brain injuries. Look at Tua's concussion hits. It was regular sacks but his neck just leveraged his head into the ground. Receiver also shoud've been wearing his mouthguard. His jaw rebounding shut on the hit definitely doesn't help
Riggggggedddd
He hit hit n the back and shoulder area head didn’t touch at all