It's important to remember - in the Nordic - specifically in Norway - they have a different living standard. People in their country are richer and live better than those imprisoned, even with these "luxuries" for prisoners (because honestly, I believe it's bare minimum for a "normal" existence away from home). I live in Denmark, a fellow Nordic country, and at the poverty line (disabled pre-retirement, cannot work) in a cute 2-room house/apartment. I still have a better home and luxuries than those in Halden prison. It's a part of living with a welfare state, where the many support others that need it in their society; so most of us may "meet" somewhere in the middle - with basic utilities as well as vital amenities. So, I would say it's only one part because of the rooms that Halden is a success - the bigger part would be the social/therapeutic work with the inmates with the rehabilitation aspect. A person doesn't commit a crime because they want to be criminal. Something inside them is either convinced or desperate that doing such is the only step forward to a better existence: Once you look at that "something" and address the trauma behind it like a wound left to fester - given medication or stability or therapy and time (away from environment that would encourage the memory of old habits and the safety of certainty within those), then there is no need for crime going forward. On another note: It feels really good knowing my country and government has my back. If I was born anywhere else I probably would have been homeless or dead - but here, I may live and be content with my lot in life. I wish everyone would have that same chance.
I understand that this must be incredibly difficult to grasp for anyone viewing from "3rd world" conditions, however, you have to remember that this "IKEA" standard is truly bottom of the barrel in Norway. Here this is not luxury, but the lowest standard possible without being cruel on purpose, which would be unconstitutional, and also against the point of the whole thing. You want these people back as healed productive citizens.
It only comes back to the question What kind of neighbour do you want? Prisoners in Norway, when they have served their time and are released again, can move wherever they like. So they can become everyone's neighbour. So what kind of neighbour do you want?
I'm guessing you're American. In case you didn't notice, Norway has the lowest re-offence rate in the world. Would I want an American released from prison as my neighbour? Hell no. But Norwegian, why not.
Shocking that so many people are shocked to see that treating people with respect and dignity, amongst other things, reduces recidivism rates and creates a safer society. The aim should be creating a safer society and not solely focused on punishment and revenge
I am curious about thr other angles... What do the parents of Breivik's victims think and say, especially as recently he has started complaining about the violation of his rights and dignity?
@@withoutshadowww I have not heard any of them speak out about his constant complaining, most likely because there's no violations of his rights. He's in solitary, and will be incarserated for life. That's a grim future no matter how good the facilities are.
My father was in prison for 3 years of my childhood for drug related incidents and when he came out he has been clean for 15 years and completely turned a new leaf
This is actually a maximum security prison where the most dangerous prisoners are held. Reaction videos like this is interesting, but perhaps you need to put in a little more of yourself, more talking about what you think perhaps? In the more popular reaction channels, there's usually a lot more content from the "reactors" themselves. Just a tip :) And do learn from the big ones :) I wish you all the best with your channel.
As is commented in the video, in Norwegian prisons you have access to more stuff than free people in a lot of countries around the world. But in Norway equality between the rich and the "poor" is quite close, so nobody would consider prison as a place to be just to have access to all you get there. I guess in lots of countries, this exact prison system wouldn't work, but at least the principles could be worked towards in other parts of the world too.
it works in Norway for 3 reasons. 1. ethnic homogeneity 2. money 3. sparse population in other words, oil and few people, who share the same genetics and religion.
why i don't work in norway. I don't like them to dominate all winter sports except ice hockey ofc. That feud is with Sweden. I have nothing bad to say about Norway. Even ppl i know and just met in travels...fantastic ppl. + we all make fun of Sweden 😉
Found your channel a couple of days ago and I subscribed right after I watched one of your videos! And I must say I really enjoyed this one too, you two seem like a really nice couple! :) Its so great to get someone else's perspective on Europe and Scandinavian countrys. Keep up the good work you guys!
We have no lifetime sentences in Norway, so every convict will, at some point, be released back into society. If you take away someone's humanity for a decade and then release them back into suburbia, it will not go well. We as a society want calm, happy, balanced people to get out of prison, not rabid animals.
Det er ikke helt korrekt. Those who get forvaring can I reality end up never getting out. With Forvaring the sentence can be prolonged with 5 years each fifth year until the day he/she dies. Behring Breivik for example will never be released. Prosecutor Bejer Engh said in the press conference during the July 22. Trial that there are people in Norwegian prisons today who have killed 1, 2, or 3 people who will never get out because of the manner they committed the killing, the circumstances, or the mental condition of the killer. She ended with “Here we are talking about a man who killed 77 humans in one single day.”
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Ja, det var vel nettopp det jeg skrev med andre formuleringer. Men skal love deg at det ikke er folks sinne eller hevnlyst som bestemmer hvilken straff folk får. Ikke graden av sinne, og ikke hvor mange eller få personer som er sinte på vedkommende. @@BizzyX78
----- @themetricsystem7967 ----- - "Ja, det var vel nettopp det jeg skrev med andre formuleringer. Men skal love deg at det ikke er folks sinne eller hevnlyst som bestemmer hvilken straff folk får. Ikke graden av sinne, og ikke hvor mange eller få personer som er sinte på vedkommende." Hæ? Det var ikke det jeg sa i det hele tatt... Forskjellen på det du skrev og min kommentar til det var at du antyder at han aldri vil komme ut av fengsel, men som jeg sa/hintet til så finnes der en vag mulighet for at han slipper ut i fremtiden. Men som jeg sa så kommer det helt og holdent an på om faren fortsatt er der for at han vil komme til å gjenta en lik gjerning som sendte ham i fengsel i utgangspunktet. Og eller om han på generelle grunnlag er fortsatt anset som en trussel for samfunnet... Om dem i fremtiden bedømmer at han ikke lenger er en trussel/fare, da er dem lovpålagt å slippe han ut av fengsel. Uavhengig av hva familiene til offerene hans måtte mene og føle om det... Men som jeg også påpekte så er han en svært forhatt person, så det ville ikke ha kommet som en overraskelse om noen på det tidspunktet ville ha tatt det på seg å tatt ham av dage. Så han ville nok ikke ha levd som en fri mann så fryktelig lenge... -----
after the 21 years is served, you can be re sentenced. videos like this is sponsored by the Norwegian state in order to give Norway good PR. and it works, every foreigner and most Norwegians think prison is like a vacation. It might not be as bad as Mexico or even the US but prison is prison. We have drugs, rape, assault, bad prison guards just like everyone else. we dont have crips, bloods, AB or woods, but we have Kurds, Somalians, Bosnians, Pakistanis etc. I spent 2 months in prison with pedofiles, rapists etc for possession of 2 grams of hash, prison is no place to be.
They even say welcome to new prisoners, or clients as they are called. The principle is to take away their freedom, as they cannot take a car and drive, or take a walk in the city etc. Re-integration is the point. They may move in next door to you later, and you want a neighbor that has been treated like a human being. And this actually works.
The prisons in Norway is really good, its way way way way better then any country in the world. Im proud to be Norwegian, and im proud to be a norwegian prisoner, believe it or not. Its salvation, not punishment. The world needs to learn
I'm a product of Finnish system. I was on my way to prison but was given many chances, until i took one of them. I was asked to be a candidate by three major parties in two elections and i do volunteer work, that is the scale of change. It truly works, to give second chances and to rehabilitate people. I was given a reason to love my country and i truly feel like i'm part of society, which i never felt in my life before.
It's the courts that decide the punishment; you don't go to prison for being beaten up by other inmates or guards; that is never the sentence. Take your freedom away for a while, and that's it. When inside, you can educate yourself for free, and when you get out, you can return to a normal life and work; you have served and are now forgiven by the state at least.
When something appears incredible, you should probably expand more on the contrast. Rather than merely saying it is very, very different, give an example of what the expectation would have been in your country in a similar situation. As prison systems go, Norway's track record the last decades with low recidivism rates and low rate of violence inside prison (after employing the principles of reintegration discussed in the video) show it is clearly a better way than the punishing treatment I suppose is the norm in most of the world. On the one end, there are definitely costs involved in making this happen. Guards need a lot of training, the facilities cost a fair bit more to build and maintain than minimal cells. But on the other end, you get a more stable and safe society, which is hard to measure but surely worth a lot.
You not only get a more table and safe society, you also get fewer repeat offenders, which means fewer victims. Fewer repeat offenders means fewer trials and trials are really expensive. Likewise, you get fewer repeat offenders in prison, which means you don't have to pay for that prison time, neither in building nor in staffing the extra facilities. Norwegian prisons are, in many ways, like investing in slightly more expensive yet significantly sturdier furniture - you don't have to replace your chair set after your heavy friend breaks one of the chair, because the chairs are built to support the extra weight. The table doesn't get miscolored by spilled liquid, because there's a proper varnish in place. A bit extra cash up front, but in the long term, you will have saved money.
This is what a human-ethical attitude can do to a justice system. NO Old Testament with "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". You're free to be religious, but religion doesn't affect norwegian society. We're fine with everybody - and of course that includes members of society who have tripped in life... 🤝
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And in Norway society give you a second chance! Once you are out of prison, you are free and can do what everyone else does. So you don't lose your right to vote or anything like that. Getting a job is rarely a problem, the same with renting an apartment. We can all do mistakes, the question is what you do to the chances you get now. But I don't know your story, so I can't judge what you did before. The fun part is that you can bump into famous criminals on the most random places. I think it was a year ago when a Norwegian TV channel invited Norways most famous bank robber in as a chess expert and to comment on chess games 😅
in the nordic countries we have our eyes on resocialization to try to make the inmates better citizens and more ready for the life after their jail time .. and as the correction officer said .. it not up to the jail to judge or punish.. the judge has already done that with a sentence of X amount of days/ years aso . from that point on it's all about gretting the inamate prepared to re enter society .. it's really not rocket science .....
I am not sure if the parents of the Breivik's victims think and say the same as you do, especially as recently he has started complaining about the violation of his rights and dignity.
@@withoutshadowww That's why justice is not dealt out by the victims, and why society takes that responsibility. Breivik can complain all he wants, that's his right, but he will never be a free man again.
@@withoutshadowww He is not comming out of prison for some long time. 21 + + + years He have somrhing called custodial sentence. As long its not safe to let him out he is not gone comeback out
Re the "Humanity" section: When you are in prison you don't lose all your human rights. You have a key because you still have a basic right to privacy (the guards can of course open and check in on you). You also have the right to vote. Foreign citizens who meet the criteria for residency can vote in local elections only; only Norwegian citizens can vote in parliamentary elections too. Polling stations (or the practical equivalent) will be put up and the votes will be collected by election official.s For pracrical reasons, early voting may be required. [You can lose your right to vote for certain crimes, like treason, but that has to be specified in the sentence. As far as I know, this has not happened since the post World War II trials, not even for people convicted of spying for another country.]
I'm sorry to critique the video, but it felt almost like the youtubers were afraid to say something negative about the current handling of prisoners. They were100% "this is incredible". Never: "maybe we should change or try how we do things". I still don't know where you guys are from, but you should consider treating your inmates as if they will move next door to you tomorrow. Like 99,9% of the world dosn't btw. They deem them lost/ruined goods.
react to more from Norway! I am from Norway, so to see reactions from 3world people. Gets my thinking of how lucky I am to live in this country, but also gets me to reflect on other parts of the world. Even though I am well traveled and lived in Malaga, Spain for a year. Like your videos, keep it up!
Not sure what the parents of Breivik's victims think and say, especially as recently he has started complaining about the violation of his rights and dignity 😂
@@88Wern3r Nope. I think that parents, relatives and friends of those victims think that it's not funny at all... and that the Norwegian legal/court/prison system is far from fascinating. While Breivik is playing on-line games in the oil-rich prison, many young innocent socialdemocrats are dead forever.
A tip: your channel will grow faster if you do not overreact. For instance, opening your eyes very widely for a long time is usually not a normal response to a video, even if it is a shocking video. And people know that. People just want to watch you look at a video, and just want to hear your true thoughts. But when people see that you exaggerate your facial reaction, then it is less interesting because people are interested in *you*. Best tip is to try to and watch a video as if there is no camera in the room at all, and have a discussion about the video as you would do naturally. Being real is what makes your channel grow. :) You seem like very nice people. Greetings from the Netherlands :)
----- @squarecircle1473 ----- - Their reaction may or may not be exaggerated... Keep in mind that people react to things differently. But I do agree with you on one point though, and that is that genuine reactions do keep people coming back for more. -----
Homicide rating in norway is pretty low. But for some reason suicide is high, long and dark winters, hard to make new friends, cuz ppl stick to friends from young age. These are our biggest problems imo. I just wanna sleep through the winter it sucks!!!
Matter of opinion. I love fall and winter, and hate spring and summer! And people don’t commit suicide due to “long dark winters”. It’s more complex than that. I should know, I have no friends and battle anxiety, and depression whilst being suicidal yet I’m still here…
@@kilipaki87oritahiti It is LITERALLY PROVEN that polar nights/mørketid gives severe depression due to lack of sunlight. Your subjective experience is not representative.
These videos are so silly. These are one of a kind prisons - we have the good old standard run down rotten danger-to-your-health prisons as well. With the same boring concrete 4 walls and all the usual luxury as in other countries.
its really about the philosophy behind it more than the building. imagine replacing whoever runs a run down norwegian prison., with staff from some prison somewhere where the staff thinks its their god given duty to beat and starve the devil out of you. and we would probably want the chubby smiling norwegian guards back pretty quick
It's important to remember - in the Nordic - specifically in Norway - they have a different living standard. People in their country are richer and live better than those imprisoned, even with these "luxuries" for prisoners (because honestly, I believe it's bare minimum for a "normal" existence away from home).
I live in Denmark, a fellow Nordic country, and at the poverty line (disabled pre-retirement, cannot work) in a cute 2-room house/apartment. I still have a better home and luxuries than those in Halden prison. It's a part of living with a welfare state, where the many support others that need it in their society; so most of us may "meet" somewhere in the middle - with basic utilities as well as vital amenities.
So, I would say it's only one part because of the rooms that Halden is a success - the bigger part would be the social/therapeutic work with the inmates with the rehabilitation aspect.
A person doesn't commit a crime because they want to be criminal. Something inside them is either convinced or desperate that doing such is the only step forward to a better existence: Once you look at that "something" and address the trauma behind it like a wound left to fester - given medication or stability or therapy and time (away from environment that would encourage the memory of old habits and the safety of certainty within those), then there is no need for crime going forward.
On another note: It feels really good knowing my country and government has my back. If I was born anywhere else I probably would have been homeless or dead - but here, I may live and be content with my lot in life.
I wish everyone would have that same chance.
I understand that this must be incredibly difficult to grasp for anyone viewing from "3rd world" conditions, however, you have to remember that this "IKEA" standard is truly bottom of the barrel in Norway. Here this is not luxury, but the lowest standard possible without being cruel on purpose, which would be unconstitutional, and also against the point of the whole thing.
You want these people back as healed productive citizens.
It only comes back to the question What kind of neighbour do you want? Prisoners in Norway, when they have served their time and are released again, can move wherever they like. So they can become everyone's neighbour. So what kind of neighbour do you want?
I'm guessing you're American. In case you didn't notice, Norway has the lowest re-offence rate in the world. Would I want an American released from prison as my neighbour? Hell no. But Norwegian, why not.
Shocking that so many people are shocked to see that treating people with respect and dignity, amongst other things, reduces recidivism rates and creates a safer society. The aim should be creating a safer society and not solely focused on punishment and revenge
I am curious about thr other angles... What do the parents of Breivik's victims think and say, especially as recently he has started complaining about the violation of his rights and dignity?
@@withoutshadowww I have not heard any of them speak out about his constant complaining, most likely because there's no violations of his rights. He's in solitary, and will be incarserated for life. That's a grim future no matter how good the facilities are.
@@withoutshadowww he is anoying, but it his rights to complain. Thats his biggest loss. We didnt change any laws because of him.
My father was in prison for 3 years of my childhood for drug related incidents and when he came out he has been clean for 15 years and completely turned a new leaf
This is actually a maximum security prison where the most dangerous prisoners are held.
Reaction videos like this is interesting, but perhaps you need to put in a little more of yourself, more talking about what you think perhaps? In the more popular reaction channels, there's usually a lot more content from the "reactors" themselves. Just a tip :) And do learn from the big ones :)
I wish you all the best with your channel.
As is commented in the video, in Norwegian prisons you have access to more stuff than free people in a lot of countries around the world. But in Norway equality between the rich and the "poor" is quite close, so nobody would consider prison as a place to be just to have access to all you get there. I guess in lots of countries, this exact prison system wouldn't work, but at least the principles could be worked towards in other parts of the world too.
it works in Norway for 3 reasons.
1. ethnic homogeneity
2. money
3. sparse population
in other words, oil and few people, who share the same genetics and religion.
why i don't work in norway. I don't like them to dominate all winter sports except ice hockey ofc. That feud is with Sweden. I have nothing bad to say about Norway. Even ppl i know and just met in travels...fantastic ppl.
+ we all make fun of Sweden 😉
Found your channel a couple of days ago and I subscribed right after I watched one of your videos! And I must say I really enjoyed this one too, you two seem like a really nice couple! :) Its so great to get someone else's perspective on Europe and Scandinavian countrys. Keep up the good work you guys!
Its quite simple... Treat people as animals, and they become animals.
Treat them well, and they become well.
Try and explain that to most other countries.
We have no lifetime sentences in Norway, so every convict will, at some point, be released back into society. If you take away someone's humanity for a decade and then release them back into suburbia, it will not go well. We as a society want calm, happy, balanced people to get out of prison, not rabid animals.
Det er ikke helt korrekt. Those who get forvaring can I reality end up never getting out. With Forvaring the sentence can be prolonged with 5 years each fifth year until the day he/she dies. Behring Breivik for example will never be released. Prosecutor Bejer Engh said in the press conference during the July 22. Trial that there are people in Norwegian prisons today who have killed 1, 2, or 3 people who will never get out because of the manner they committed the killing, the circumstances, or the mental condition of the killer. She ended with “Here we are talking about a man who killed 77 humans in one single day.”
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- The definition of the term 'Forvaring' states that for heinous crimes, if there is even a slim chance that they would do what they have been sentenced for again if set free at some point in the future.
Or they are otherwise deemed as still a threat to society in general, then they can and will by law be kept in prison as a life sentence.
Breivik is such a hated and despised person by pretty much everyone, so if he ever got out at some point, he wouldn't have lasted long, anyway.
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Ja, det var vel nettopp det jeg skrev med andre formuleringer. Men skal love deg at det ikke er folks sinne eller hevnlyst som bestemmer hvilken straff folk får. Ikke graden av sinne, og ikke hvor mange eller få personer som er sinte på vedkommende. @@BizzyX78
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- "Ja, det var vel nettopp det jeg skrev med andre formuleringer. Men skal love deg at det ikke er folks sinne eller hevnlyst som bestemmer hvilken straff folk får. Ikke graden av sinne, og ikke hvor mange eller få personer som er sinte på vedkommende."
Hæ?
Det var ikke det jeg sa i det hele tatt...
Forskjellen på det du skrev og min kommentar til det var at du antyder at han aldri vil komme ut av fengsel, men som jeg sa/hintet til så finnes der en vag mulighet for at han slipper ut i fremtiden.
Men som jeg sa så kommer det helt og holdent an på om faren fortsatt er der for at han vil komme til å gjenta en lik gjerning som sendte ham i fengsel i utgangspunktet.
Og eller om han på generelle grunnlag er fortsatt anset som en trussel for samfunnet...
Om dem i fremtiden bedømmer at han ikke lenger er en trussel/fare, da er dem lovpålagt å slippe han ut av fengsel.
Uavhengig av hva familiene til offerene hans måtte mene og føle om det...
Men som jeg også påpekte så er han en svært forhatt person, så det ville ikke ha kommet som en overraskelse om noen på det tidspunktet ville ha tatt det på seg å tatt ham av dage.
Så han ville nok ikke ha levd som en fri mann så fryktelig lenge...
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after the 21 years is served, you can be re sentenced. videos like this is sponsored by the Norwegian state in order to give Norway good PR. and it works, every foreigner and most Norwegians think prison is like a vacation. It might not be as bad as Mexico or even the US but prison is prison. We have drugs, rape, assault, bad prison guards just like everyone else. we dont have crips, bloods, AB or woods, but we have Kurds, Somalians, Bosnians, Pakistanis etc. I spent 2 months in prison with pedofiles, rapists etc for possession of 2 grams of hash, prison is no place to be.
Love to Brasil from Norway. Brasil is an incredible country.
They even say welcome to new prisoners, or clients as they are called. The principle is to take away their freedom, as they cannot take a car and drive, or take a walk in the city etc. Re-integration is the point. They may move in next door to you later, and you want a neighbor that has been treated like a human being. And this actually works.
The prisons in Norway is really good, its way way way way better then any country in the world. Im proud to be Norwegian, and im proud to be a norwegian prisoner, believe it or not. Its salvation, not punishment. The world needs to learn
I'm a product of Finnish system. I was on my way to prison but was given many chances, until i took one of them. I was asked to be a candidate by three major parties in two elections and i do volunteer work, that is the scale of change. It truly works, to give second chances and to rehabilitate people. I was given a reason to love my country and i truly feel like i'm part of society, which i never felt in my life before.
i worked on building that prison! sorry for any water leaks XD
It's the courts that decide the punishment; you don't go to prison for being beaten up by other inmates or guards; that is never the sentence. Take your freedom away for a while, and that's it. When inside, you can educate yourself for free, and when you get out, you can return to a normal life and work; you have served and are now forgiven by the state at least.
When something appears incredible, you should probably expand more on the contrast. Rather than merely saying it is very, very different, give an example of what the expectation would have been in your country in a similar situation.
As prison systems go, Norway's track record the last decades with low recidivism rates and low rate of violence inside prison (after employing the principles of reintegration discussed in the video) show it is clearly a better way than the punishing treatment I suppose is the norm in most of the world.
On the one end, there are definitely costs involved in making this happen. Guards need a lot of training, the facilities cost a fair bit more to build and maintain than minimal cells. But on the other end, you get a more stable and safe society, which is hard to measure but surely worth a lot.
You not only get a more table and safe society, you also get fewer repeat offenders, which means fewer victims. Fewer repeat offenders means fewer trials and trials are really expensive. Likewise, you get fewer repeat offenders in prison, which means you don't have to pay for that prison time, neither in building nor in staffing the extra facilities.
Norwegian prisons are, in many ways, like investing in slightly more expensive yet significantly sturdier furniture - you don't have to replace your chair set after your heavy friend breaks one of the chair, because the chairs are built to support the extra weight. The table doesn't get miscolored by spilled liquid, because there's a proper varnish in place. A bit extra cash up front, but in the long term, you will have saved money.
This is what a human-ethical attitude can do to a justice system. NO Old Testament with "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". You're free to be religious, but religion doesn't affect norwegian society. We're fine with everybody - and of course that includes members of society who have tripped in life... 🤝
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- Religion does indeed affect the Norwegian society...
Just not to the same extent as the likes of other countries like f.e. some countries in the 'Middle East' where religion is the backbone of the judicial system and the laws it abides by.
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hello from norway ! hope you all have a nice and good day :)
And in Norway society give you a second chance! Once you are out of prison, you are free and can do what everyone else does. So you don't lose your right to vote or anything like that. Getting a job is rarely a problem, the same with renting an apartment.
We can all do mistakes, the question is what you do to the chances you get now. But I don't know your story, so I can't judge what you did before.
The fun part is that you can bump into famous criminals on the most random places. I think it was a year ago when a Norwegian TV channel invited Norways most famous bank robber in as a chess expert and to comment on chess games 😅
in the nordic countries we have our eyes on resocialization to try to make the inmates better citizens and more ready for the life after their jail time .. and as the correction officer said .. it not up to the jail to judge or punish.. the judge has already done that with a sentence of X amount of days/ years aso . from that point on it's all about gretting the inamate prepared to re enter society .. it's really not rocket science .....
I am not sure if the parents of the Breivik's victims think and say the same as you do, especially as recently he has started complaining about the violation of his rights and dignity.
@@withoutshadowww That's why justice is not dealt out by the victims, and why society takes that responsibility. Breivik can complain all he wants, that's his right, but he will never be a free man again.
@@withoutshadowww He is not comming out of prison for some long time. 21 + + + years
He have somrhing called custodial sentence.
As long its not safe to let him out he is not gone comeback out
Re the "Humanity" section: When you are in prison you don't lose all your human rights.
You have a key because you still have a basic right to privacy (the guards can of course open and check in on you).
You also have the right to vote. Foreign citizens who meet the criteria for residency can vote in local elections only; only Norwegian citizens can vote in parliamentary elections too. Polling stations (or the practical equivalent) will be put up and the votes will be collected by election official.s For pracrical reasons, early voting may be required.
[You can lose your right to vote for certain crimes, like treason, but that has to be specified in the sentence. As far as I know, this has not happened since the post World War II trials, not even for people convicted of spying for another country.]
I'm sorry to critique the video, but it felt almost like the youtubers were afraid to say something negative about the current handling of prisoners. They were100% "this is incredible". Never: "maybe we should change or try how we do things". I still don't know where you guys are from, but you should consider treating your inmates as if they will move next door to you tomorrow. Like 99,9% of the world dosn't btw. They deem them lost/ruined goods.
You should watch the video about life in Finlands open prisons
react to more from Norway! I am from Norway, so to see reactions from 3world people. Gets my thinking of how lucky I am to live in this country, but also gets me to reflect on other parts of the world. Even though I am well traveled and lived in Malaga, Spain for a year.
Like your videos, keep it up!
Not sure what the parents of Breivik's victims think and say, especially as recently he has started complaining about the violation of his rights and dignity 😂
@@withoutshadowww very funny huh?
@@88Wern3r Nope. I think that parents, relatives and friends of those victims think that it's not funny at all... and that the Norwegian legal/court/prison system is far from fascinating. While Breivik is playing on-line games in the oil-rich prison, many young innocent socialdemocrats are dead forever.
@@withoutshadowww Breivik does not have access to internet. That'd be crazy
@@withoutshadowwwcompers to other prisinors like Breivik in other lands, i think that breivik has a good life in prison.
yes criminals are humans to so treat them as one -norway-
Greetz 😊
A tip: your channel will grow faster if you do not overreact. For instance, opening your eyes very widely for a long time is usually not a normal response to a video, even if it is a shocking video. And people know that. People just want to watch you look at a video, and just want to hear your true thoughts. But when people see that you exaggerate your facial reaction, then it is less interesting because people are interested in *you*. Best tip is to try to and watch a video as if there is no camera in the room at all, and have a discussion about the video as you would do naturally. Being real is what makes your channel grow. :) You seem like very nice people. Greetings from the Netherlands :)
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- Their reaction may or may not be exaggerated...
Keep in mind that people react to things differently.
But I do agree with you on one point though, and that is that genuine reactions do keep people coming back for more.
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You should try the norwegian prison. is a great experience . cable tv 24 hours .cake and icecream on sundays. i just love it
Homicide rating in norway is pretty low. But for some reason suicide is high, long and dark winters, hard to make new friends, cuz ppl stick to friends from young age. These are our biggest problems imo. I just wanna sleep through the winter it sucks!!!
Mørketid/polar night is a killer. Therapy light helps a lot.
Matter of opinion. I love fall and winter, and hate spring and summer! And people don’t commit suicide due to “long dark winters”. It’s more complex than that. I should know, I have no friends and battle anxiety, and depression whilst being suicidal yet I’m still here…
@@kilipaki87oritahiti It is LITERALLY PROVEN that polar nights/mørketid gives severe depression due to lack of sunlight. Your subjective experience is not representative.
Norway does not have an especially high number of suicides.
@@magnusbe We are pretty damn high up there of western countries, with an 11.7/100K.
These videos are so silly. These are one of a kind prisons - we have the good old standard run down rotten danger-to-your-health prisons as well. With the same boring concrete 4 walls and all the usual luxury as in other countries.
its really about the philosophy behind it more than the building. imagine replacing whoever runs a run down norwegian prison., with staff from some prison somewhere where the staff thinks its their god given duty to beat and starve the devil out of you. and we would probably want the chubby smiling norwegian guards back pretty quick
as an ex inmate in norway, all i can say about the prisons here. its like a summercamp.