Im looking forward to more videos with these synths! I’ve been having a lot of fun with my POM 400! The one difficulty I have found is that the oscillators key scaling gets a little off over time if using a keyboard or the OP-Z! Thankfully, there is a small pot that can be adjusted with a screwdriver near the control knob on the PCB board for the Oscillators. I have drilled a hole into the front panel of each of the oscillators which has made it much easier to adjust them without having to take apart the synth!
Thanks for watching! Your fix sounds like a great idea… but I don’t trust myself to perform a surgery like that :) Let’s see what I can tickle out of the 400 in future. Waiting for a MIDI to CV module to give me some more power!
This is the POM video I've been waiting for, as I now also have both of these. Especially appreciate the deep dive into the 170 sequencer- it's a complex beast. Many thanks!
Thank you! Yes, the price is very reasonable. For learning these are really great. If you just want a semi modular mono, there might be other options, but most have the patch points all bunched together, which can be more difficult to understand.
Ich hab erst vor wenigen Tagen so richtig gecheckt dass es Synthesizer gibt und schau schon stundenlang Videos dazu an. Sehr unterhaltsames Video… weiter so!
@@SONWU Danke für das Video, es gibt leider sehr wenig Content und ich hab jetzt alle 3 Devices und hab kein Plan von der Materie :D bitte mach noch npaar Videos dazu, hilft allen - wir freuen uns, danke vorab. BTW gibts den POM16 gerade für 90€ bei Thomann, wenn du dein Set noch erweitern möchtest ;)
Awesome video. Do you know if you can use the OPZ line module with these? All of the PO modular videos with OPZ seem to be using the OPLAB. Keep up the good work
Great overview -- thank you! Question: did the 400 come with enough cables to make advanced patches? And if no, did you find yourself reaching for the short/reds or long/yellows? Info on the website is not clear as to what comes in the box.. Cheers!
Hey! I thought it didn't come with enough cables to be honest. If you haven't purchased yet, I recommend checking out the Bastl Softpop2 if you are looking for a semi modular unit. I know the teenage engineering unit is a good deal for the current prices. But in the long run, the Softpop 2 is more versatile.
@@SONWU wow that was totally off of my radar.. I just watched Loop's review (his outtro jam, NICE) -- a very interesting and perhaps very challenging investment. I can see it working well in my very new studio (Polyend Tracker, MiniFreak, MiniLab3) with that MIDI interface, compared to the 400. I was also thinking about pairing the 400 with an OP-Z, which may address some of the 400's larger weaknesses -- but that's a lot more ¥! Thank you for the great idea and suggestions!
While the PO400 is nice, simple and raw, in the end it's just not as useful if you want to get something going. The Bastl Softpop is completely different. It get's you making music immediately, while still offering a lot of options in terms of modularity. I definitely recommend it if modular is something you want to try.@@crtzmo
Hardly the best budget modular unless you consider that TE is blowing them out now: the PO series develops metal fatigue and falls apart, has weird filters and bad designed controls, and can't be extended. My vote is Tangible Waves's AE Modular. A similarly configured system, plus MIDI, 2 CV in/outs and 2 audio in/outs, and an additional LFO, will run almost exactly $500. It's easily customized and modified. And it can be extended with over 100 modules from several different vendors.
I actually got the POM-16 (the standalone keyboard sequencer) after the recent TE price-drop so I could use it to control my eurorack gear. It has a great selection of CV outputs for the price, and previous sequencer competitors (like the Korg SQ-1) don't look as good in comparison in terms of price vs features. Plus it was fun to make ;)
Hello Oliver! I could get a used POM-16 for cheap and want to use it to sequence my 7U eurorack. Are you happy with yours? I had a SQ64 and a Beatstep Pro, but wasnt happy with the workflow really... I also got a Yarns for Midi In from Ableton, but I want some haptic external controller for Eurorack sequences and arps. How nice is the POM-16 for creating CV sequences?
@@neuzethmusic131 I am happy with mine but if you're looking for something with haptic feedback I'm not sure the POM-16 will satisfy you - the knobs are fine but the pads are not satisfying to push and I often find myself pushing on them much harder than I need to just to be sure the press has registered. My favourite things about it are the connectivity (lots of CV outs) and the size (it's very portable). Being battery powered is great too, I've not had to change the batteries that came with it yet. Those features over-ride everything else (for me). It's fine for creating CV sequences bar the pad responsiveness issue. Hope that helps!
I agree the 400 is a great bargain. Here's a piece I did using the 400, along with some acoustic instruments emulated by Dorico + Note Performer: ua-cam.com/video/P2c3jll0tMI/v-deo.html
Now it could be considered as appropriate buy because price dropped about 50%. Before it was overpriced and it would be better to buy Tangible Waves AE modular.
hope you don't mind me being a bit picky but you do say in the video that you only used it for a few hours, so. to rush to your judgement is a little strange in my book. Surely the Behringer Neutron is a far better option for the lower-end of the market? I also think it's quite telling that PO-400 videos are few and far between, and there could be a valid reason for this.
I am sure the Behringer Neutron is a very good instrument for a similar price, but they are quite different. I think the fact that the neutron has a patchbay, whereas the PO 400 has separate modules with patch points makes them quite different…especially for people learning modular synths. I personally like the patch points being directly by the modules they are actually affecting. It makes more sense to my brain. I would agree that the Behringer is probably a better instrument in itself, but to learn patching the PO 400 might be a better option.
Lol I would say it's a worst possible modular 😂 It couldn't be "the best modular rn". We have AE Modular which is real cheap modular and much better that te junk. TE making controversial products some of them are really good like OP1 OPZ or tx6 but some of them are cringy junk like robots choir or this "modular".
You mean the paper modular with the wires for patching? Yeah fuck that shit, a metal chassis and patch cables wins any day. The 400 is $290 now, can’t beat that price for all you get
Alter! Richtig geiles Video! Und das Stop-motion Intro war der Hammer!!!
Vielen Dank, die machen immer Spaß!
Im looking forward to more videos with these synths! I’ve been having a lot of fun with my POM 400! The one difficulty I have found is that the oscillators key scaling gets a little off over time if using a keyboard or the OP-Z! Thankfully, there is a small pot that can be adjusted with a screwdriver near the control knob on the PCB board for the Oscillators. I have drilled a hole into the front panel of each of the oscillators which has made it much easier to adjust them without having to take apart the synth!
Thanks for watching! Your fix sounds like a great idea…
but I don’t trust myself to perform a surgery like that :)
Let’s see what I can tickle out of the 400 in future.
Waiting for a MIDI to CV module to give me some more power!
This is the POM video I've been waiting for, as I now also have both of these. Especially appreciate the deep dive into the 170 sequencer- it's a complex beast. Many thanks!
Thank you very much! Yeah the sequencer certainly warrants a good old RTFM ;)
Great video!
With the price drop these two systems are a steal tbh.. thinking of getting these as a way to get my kids interested in synthesis
Thank you! Yes, the price is very reasonable. For learning these are really great. If you just want a semi modular mono, there might be other options, but most have the patch points all bunched together, which can be more difficult to understand.
Fantastic overview. I'm excited to see what you sounds you continue to design and make with these!
Thanks, we’ll see :)
Ich hab erst vor wenigen Tagen so richtig gecheckt dass es Synthesizer gibt und schau schon stundenlang Videos dazu an.
Sehr unterhaltsames Video… weiter so!
Dankeschön und viel Spaß auf deiner Reise durchs Synth-Land!
Voll fein, freue mich auf weitere Videos!!! Super interessant!
Wunderbar! Mehr Videos werden folgen ;)
@@SONWU Danke für das Video, es gibt leider sehr wenig Content und ich hab jetzt alle 3 Devices und hab kein Plan von der Materie :D bitte mach noch npaar Videos dazu, hilft allen - wir freuen uns, danke vorab. BTW gibts den POM16 gerade für 90€ bei Thomann, wenn du dein Set noch erweitern möchtest ;)
Stop motion on point 👌🏼
Thanks, I always enjoy this part of "unboxing"
Thanks for showing these. Would've liked you demonstrate the capabilities of the 400 and 170 or 16 more, show us how you hook them up and play them.
to be honest…I sold them pretty quickly, when I got more Eurorack modules ;)
Nice to find a TE fan. Am I the only one who likes the TE table and would pay £ 1200 for it? 🙂 PO400 is a must have.
Awesome video.
Do you know if you can use the OPZ line module with these?
All of the PO modular videos with OPZ seem to be using the OPLAB.
Keep up the good work
Thanks! The line module won’t do much good here. And overall, if you are looking for a semi-modular synth…these days I’d recommend SOFTPOP2 by Bastl!
Great overview -- thank you! Question: did the 400 come with enough cables to make advanced patches? And if no, did you find yourself reaching for the short/reds or long/yellows? Info on the website is not clear as to what comes in the box.. Cheers!
Hey! I thought it didn't come with enough cables to be honest. If you haven't purchased yet, I recommend checking out the Bastl Softpop2 if you are looking for a semi modular unit. I know the teenage engineering unit is a good deal for the current prices. But in the long run, the Softpop 2 is more versatile.
@@SONWU wow that was totally off of my radar.. I just watched Loop's review (his outtro jam, NICE) -- a very interesting and perhaps very challenging investment. I can see it working well in my very new studio (Polyend Tracker, MiniFreak, MiniLab3) with that MIDI interface, compared to the 400. I was also thinking about pairing the 400 with an OP-Z, which may address some of the 400's larger weaknesses -- but that's a lot more ¥! Thank you for the great idea and suggestions!
While the PO400 is nice, simple and raw, in the end it's just not as useful if you want to get something going. The Bastl Softpop is completely different. It get's you making music immediately, while still offering a lot of options in terms of modularity. I definitely recommend it if modular is something you want to try.@@crtzmo
@@SONWU thanks very much, Ken! 👋
Hardly the best budget modular unless you consider that TE is blowing them out now: the PO series develops metal fatigue and falls apart, has weird filters and bad designed controls, and can't be extended. My vote is Tangible Waves's AE Modular. A similarly configured system, plus MIDI, 2 CV in/outs and 2 audio in/outs, and an additional LFO, will run almost exactly $500. It's easily customized and modified. And it can be extended with over 100 modules from several different vendors.
I agree, for me now it is the Bastl Softpop 2 ;)
I actually got the POM-16 (the standalone keyboard sequencer) after the recent TE price-drop so I could use it to control my eurorack gear. It has a great selection of CV outputs for the price, and previous sequencer competitors (like the Korg SQ-1) don't look as good in comparison in terms of price vs features. Plus it was fun to make ;)
Nice, glad you are enjoying it!
Hello Oliver! I could get a used POM-16 for cheap and want to use it to sequence my 7U eurorack. Are you happy with yours?
I had a SQ64 and a Beatstep Pro, but wasnt happy with the workflow really... I also got a Yarns for Midi In from Ableton, but I want some haptic external controller for Eurorack sequences and arps. How nice is the POM-16 for creating CV sequences?
@@neuzethmusic131 I am happy with mine but if you're looking for something with haptic feedback I'm not sure the POM-16 will satisfy you - the knobs are fine but the pads are not satisfying to push and I often find myself pushing on them much harder than I need to just to be sure the press has registered. My favourite things about it are the connectivity (lots of CV outs) and the size (it's very portable). Being battery powered is great too, I've not had to change the batteries that came with it yet. Those features over-ride everything else (for me). It's fine for creating CV sequences bar the pad responsiveness issue. Hope that helps!
I agree the 400 is a great bargain. Here's a piece I did using the 400, along with some acoustic instruments emulated by Dorico + Note Performer: ua-cam.com/video/P2c3jll0tMI/v-deo.html
Nice, thanks for sharing!
I need thiss🔥
As an alternative, check out Softpop 2 by Bastl. I would recommend it over this!
Now it could be considered as appropriate buy because price dropped about 50%. Before it was overpriced and it would be better to buy Tangible Waves AE modular.
Nice!
hope you don't mind me being a bit picky but you do say in the video that you only used it for a few hours, so. to rush to your judgement is a little strange in my book. Surely the Behringer Neutron is a far better option for the lower-end of the market? I also think it's quite telling that PO-400 videos are few and far between, and there could be a valid reason for this.
I am sure the Behringer Neutron is a very good instrument for a similar price, but they are quite different. I think the fact that the neutron has a patchbay, whereas the PO 400 has separate modules with patch points makes them quite different…especially for people learning modular synths. I personally like the patch points being directly by the modules they are actually affecting. It makes more sense to my brain. I would agree that the Behringer is probably a better instrument in itself, but to learn patching the PO 400 might be a better option.
@@SONWU excellent points!
at $250 it definitely seems a bit more attractive
True…I'd still rather have a Softpop2 though ;)
"i dont want to attract too many dogs to this video" hahaha
;)
Definitely not the best. I'd argue that Ae modular is way, way, waaayyy better than this! And actually a real modular system ;)
Lol I would say it's a worst possible modular 😂 It couldn't be "the best modular rn". We have AE Modular which is real cheap modular and much better that te junk. TE making controversial products some of them are really good like OP1 OPZ or tx6 but some of them are cringy junk like robots choir or this "modular".
I’m sure if te would release the AE Modular most people would call it a toy too ;)
Plus its not really modular as it is fixed together,,and you cant change modules..
AE modular is the best budget modular...hands down....teenage engineering gear is over priced garbage.
I’d probably say (after trying more alternatives) that the Bastl Softpop 2 might be the best entry into modular
You mean the paper modular with the wires for patching? Yeah fuck that shit, a metal chassis and patch cables wins any day. The 400 is $290 now, can’t beat that price for all you get