Sonic Mania Day: November 23, 1993 - Sonic CD, Sonic Spinball & Sonic Chaos Released On One Day!
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- In 1993, Sega followed up Sonic 2sDay with a triple threat, delivering THREE games on one day, November 23rd, 1993: Sonic Mania Day!! (Chapter markers and more below…)
0:00 GTV ID “… you shall be the true Maestro of Dreams”
0:07 Act 1: From Day to Day
2:07 CM 1: Sonic Mania Day (U.S., 1993)
2:24 Act 2: Sonic Boom Can Do Anything
10:03 CM 2 Sonic CD from Mega CD (Japan, 1993)
10:35 Act 3: It’s Sonic, It’s Pinball…
15:09 CM 3: Sonic Spinball for Genesis (U.S., 1993)
15:36 Act 4: Sonic & Tails & Chaos
21:21 CM 4: Sonic Chaos for Game Gear (U.S., 1993)
21:54 Act 5: The Mania is Running Wild!!
Episode Information
GTV 157 "Sonic Mania Day" Season 8 Episode 14
Original Airdate: November 15, 2023
Produced November 6-13, 2023
Recorded at Butsudan Studios and edited on my 14” MacBook M1 Pro! Edited and produced with Photoshop, Final Cut Pro, and Topaz AI. All paid for with Gainful Employment™
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Partial Transcript
At the end of 1992, Sega found itself on the winning side of its recent battles with Nintendo over control of the American video game market. The year began with Sega Genesis leading the 16-Bit wars with a 60% market share over Nintendo, the former market leader.
The sea change came about from a few key decisions made under the leadership of Tom Kalinske at Sega of America. Sonic The Hedgehog was made the face of the company. His original game, designed specifically to outshine Super Mario World on the Super NES, was designed in Japan with a fair amount of American input. A broader campaign positioned Sega as the alternative for older gamers. The cool place to be, the underground, where things could get a little crazy!
Sega cut the price of the Genesis to $149 with Sonic included, forcing Nintendo to stand out as the more expensive choice, until Nintendo was forced to cut the price of the Super NES as well, losing $50 for each sale.
Sega then doubled-down in 1992 by delivering Sonic The Hedgehog 2! The game was bigger, faster, more colorful and introduced Sonic’s new sidekick, Miles Prower, AKA Tails.
To really bring things home, Sega did something unprecedented: Sonic 2 was released everywhere around the world on the same day! Sega celebrated with a huge media event! Making the day like a holiday. Sonic 2’s Day! November 24th, 1992!
Sonic 2 was the best selling game that year in many markets, with millions more Genesis and Mega Drive sets going home to happy gamers.
Going into 1993, the big headlines continued to follow the battles of Sega and Nintendo. Could Sega three-peat in ’93? Tom Kalinske, and everyone at Sega came up with a plan outdo Sonic 2’s Day, A three-pronged attack called Sonic Mania Day!!
Clips furnished by Vampire Robot, KATU-TV, MTV, RGTV, Longplay Archive. Some clips were reused from Sonic 2sDay but I think you knew that. - Ігри
My birthday is on November 23rd and I turn 21 in 1993 and yes I got all the Sonic games that day and still have them.
Happy birthday 🎂🦔
Thanks sadly we wont be going to Japan this year maybe next year if we're lucky@@GTV-Japan
I’d say now is the time. The yen is super cheap. It will stay low a while but who knows for how long
@@GTV-Japan Right now many debt and bills need to be fully paid first before I could save up to get any retro games there and also my roommates time from work to be there longer than a week if it's all possible. But lets hope the yen stay super cheap next year.
@atariboy9084 I understand. Put yourself in order first then you can truly enjoy things over here. Some have speculated the yen will dip to 160-165 next year before the government intervenes, when they magically declare the rate to be whatever they want it to be and consequences be darned!
Back in 93 I wanted Sonic CD and Lunar SOOOOOO badly. I ended up getting my mitts on my Sega CD early in 94 and loved it everyday until the bitter end.
The WD games were all great
I remember my neighbors getting Sonic Spinball Christmas of '93 and everyone basically being like "I GUESS this is fun" but everything feeling off
It’s different for sure. I think it takes time to learn what to do. Honestly if you can just keep mashing it clears itself. 🦔🦔
Those were some truly special days.
Those were the days 🎹
Sonic Chaos on the Master System is my favourite Sonic game on that system, I really enjoyed this episode once again. Fantastic work mate
Cheers Ken! I think Chaos is the best of the 8-bits!
Unfortunately the Master system was dead in the water here in the states, so I was relegated to playing Chaos on my blue Sonic edition GameGear, would have killed to play on something that had a wider screen and didn't take $15 in batteries to operate 😅
@@michaelmanning9028 yeah it’s too bad it didn’t catch on over there, the Master System was more popular here in Australia than the NES and would continue with the MegaDrive also. I had the Game Gear back in the day, battery life was a major issue but now we have rechargeable batteries I’m thinking if I could find a GG at a good price in mint condition I would consider getting one
@@GTV-Japan I also picked up Sonic Triple Trouble on the Master System, someone actually converted the GG version to the SMS
@KenzGamesCollection definitely! I've regretted selling the blue GG I had back in the day, but when you're a kid and you don't have a job you'll do dumb things like sell your current games/systems for new ones 🤦♂️
This is how you start a weekend! With a new drop from GTVJapan. Well done as always man
Thanks Cam!
A GTV video drop day is a good day indeed!
man your yearly sonic videos had been amazing to this point 👍
i am already excited for your hedgehog day / sonic 3 & knuckles retrospective 😅
It’s going to be a fun one🦔🦊
People can say what they want about Sonic Spinball, but I really enjoyed it, as well as Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine. They were both really good for wasting time when you had nothing else to do as a kid.
Christmas came early this year! Two videos of yours that i haven't seen in one day! My parents refused to buy me a Genesis or SNES since we had so many NES games, so while most kids my age were playing Mortal Kombat, Super Mario World, and Sonic, I was still rocking Chip and Dale, Little Nemo, all 3 Mario games and a ton more on the NES, of course these days it doesn't bother me, but as an 8 year old I was incredibly jealous of my classmates, on Christmas of 96' I woke up to find my Sega Genesis packed with Sonic Spinball under the tree....while most of my friends were getting and asking for Playstation's or N64's 😂 I was still thrilled with the upgrade and by that time the games had become much cheaper and were new to me so I didn't mind!
Sounds nice! I knew a guy who had only an Atari 2600 until 1991 for the same reason!!! I still have 2 more vids for the year so let the Xmas roll on
What I love about the opening of sonic CD is that toei animation did the opening for this game which was fantastic as someone who loves dragon ball and saint seiya.
The one sketch in the video gives direction and says something like make an American cartoon look like Japanese anime!
@@GTV-Japan yeah which would have been so cool atleats in the end there was a sonic OVA that came out after sonic CD came out but yeah it was so cool.
As always an awesome video. I do remember kids being more stoked about Sonic in 1992/93 than Mario, maybe that was my age at the time.
Hey pixel vixen! Hope you’re doing fine! I think more people were into Sonic, it was just plastered everywhere. Honestly Nintendo’s slow drip policy hurt them in the 90s I think
Everyone was. Sonic was definitely way more popular than mario between 1991 and 1996. Especially un europe were Nintendo was never really popular and sega was
@@GTV-Japan I'm doing rad thanks, wrist all healed, skating again and doing my bit to eat all of Family Mart's chocolate pastries and coffees lol. Hope you're doing great too. I think at the end of 1993, everyone was all about Sega in the UK, though some friends did have a SNES, and I got one myself at the end of 1994. But I do love classic Sonic, and I really want to try Sonic Chaos now, looks like a blast.
@FutureSaviors that’s good! I try to stay away from the konbini these days. Too expensive
What is the odds that 3 sonic's games in one year and Sonic CD is awesome. 😀👍🎮
The Sonic 2 Game Gear Aqua Lake level theme might be my favorite music to ever be on the GG/SMS. What a fantastic tune that was!
One of the best levels in the game too. Being able to skip across the water while in ball form was a really cool touch!
It's definitely a tune that makes you think of a water park in a way, doesn't it? Did you know you can hear a bit of Aqua Lake in the first level, Underground Zone's music? Listen to it and see if you can pick it out! ^_^
I happen to be a Sega Fanboy at heart. I once found an old Sega Mega Drive at a local Charity Shop. It only cost $5AU, and it worked perfectly. I was able to get a Mega CD and 32X to add onto it, and given the cheapness of the items at the time, I'm proud I achieved such feats. Nowadays the Charity Shops are focusing on selling items for premium prices. A $5 deal like the Mega Drive or the Atari Lynx would now cost many times that amount.
That’s great! Thanks for sharing your story.
This is a great "sequel" to your Sonic 2sDay video! It's awesome that three different consoles got a great new Sonic game simultaneously. What a time to be alive!
Thanks friend! Now I have to get to work on sonic 3 which also has a great story to it! I wonder how many kids got all 3 for Xmas? I actually don’t get a cd until 94 because it was still expensive
I remember how much of an event that used to be...especially the Sonic and Knuckles cartridge and how something you have kept in your closet for years could open to something new. "Those were the days." Indeed my friend
It was magic that sonic 2 could be replayed that way
@@GTV-Japan For realz, I played the heck outta Sonic 2... but to play through it as Knuckles was unreal!!!
Out of the three, we only got Sonic Spinball on Christmas that year. Didn't have a Sega CD nor a Game Gear that time. I enjoyed it for what it was though.
It was fun! It just wasn’t sonic 3🦔
@18:51 Just to point out that Green Hills from Sonic 2 8-bit is the first and more closer to the "You can do anything" song. Mecha Green Hill feels more like a remix of that original theme.
Yes. Certainly.
Another dose of GTV goodness 🇯🇵 👌🏼
Thanks! The next one is always in the works 🦔🦔🦔🦊🦊
I remember seeing that commercial during an episode of Satam and getting super excited, and that Christmas I got Sonic Spinball & Chaos. Sonic Choas was the first Sonic game I ever beat without mine brothers help, though Spinball kicked mine butt...alot!
Gotta say 93 had to be Sonic's golden year, receiving two cartoon series, comic book and being the first video game to get a balloon in Macy's Thanksgiving parade.
Thanks for sharing your story!!
Sonic Chaos on the Master System was my first Sonic game!
I was literally just looking up sonic mania on Google to see what that staff is making now as I missed playing it and just saw this video lol, nice.
Hey nice timing! Let the mania run wild
The fans divided over/fans who loved both of the soundtracks of sonic CD would get a nice surprise with the ps3 rerelease of the game which bundled both soundtracks into the game. My favorite aspect of that port.
Those little tidbits about Sonic being able to do a hadouken in Sonic Chaos and there being a gg port for sonic spinball are super surprising. Good work as usual!
Thanks I’m glad you like it! There are actually many Easter eggs in sonic cd but I thought everyone knew about them. Oh well! I like how all the rereleases now have both sound tracks. Nice option! Thank god we live in the future!!
I have a VHS recording of the news I made on Sonic 2s Day in 1992!
Get out! That would be neat to see
@@GTV-JapanI’ve sent it to you on discord!
Always stoked to see new gtv videos, and one on every sega fans favorite blue blur. Many thanks and kudos again to you good sir. Ive said it before and ill say it again, keep up the good work. And like my last comment, always love seeing the old adverts and your ability to gather top notch info and deliver in a very digestible and pleasurable viewing manner. Thanks again and best wishes for your continued success my guy.
Thanks for the kind words and support! I hope I can continue to deliver as long as possible. Have a good weekend 🍺🦔
I only found out with the advent of internet that a lot of people hated sonic spinball. For me it's among the best sonic games ever made. I also love pinball games in general
It’s funny how opinions can differ like that. The reviews were ok but it was mainly because the game wasn’t sonic 3. On its own it’s great! I can understand a dislike of it but not hate.
Phantasy Star III is another game like that. At the time review scores were 8s 9s and 10s but here comes the internet and suddenly the game sucks!!!
The _Past_ music tracks aren't Red Book CD Audio like the others, but rather PCM sample-based sequences played on the Ricoch RF5C164 chip.
Doh!!!
So many great memories back then as a kid with my Mega Drive console with Sonic 1 / 2 👍🏻 thank you for the great video
That’s great to hear. You’re welcome!
So much nostalgia in these videos. Good video!
It's surreal how Sonic was so popular and the games could compete with Mario only in the 90s on the Genesis. While I loved the Adventure games and thought that was a great direction for Sonic to go in 3D the fact that the Dreamcast undersold did not help with Sonics staying power.
Fall 2001 feels a bit bittersweet with the launch of the Xbox and Master Chief becoming a bigger icon that generation than Sonic.
I thought the Dreamcast was selling well. Just that it would never be profitable enough no matter how many were sold. Besides it’s better now. Let someone else pay 5 billion dollars to make the hardware, just focus on games which is what matters. 🦔🦔🦔
@@GTV-Japan Would love to see Sega make a proper return to hardware.
Sega really did a bang up job back then! I loved everything they brought out, including ALL the Sonic games on Game Gear! I had a Game Gear growing up & absolutely loved it! I ended up getting every single Sonic game that came out for it & enjoyed every one of them.
I was a pretty skilled gamer as a kid, so my personal fav has actually always been Sonic 2 for Game Gear. I know most hate it because they find it too difficult, but I have always loved it! The level design & music are unique & amazing imo!
I was somehow able to find every Chaos Emerald as a 10 year old kid with no Internet & no guide of any kind. I was the only person I knew to be able to do that! Although I admit it took me about a YEAR to FINALLY find the Emerald in World 2. I pretty easily found all the others but took me a long time to find that one. I remember one day saying to myself that I was going to explore EVERY EDGE of the map to try & find it, and I got lucky being able to spot it JUST up in the top corner of the map in the clouds!
So I had just barely spotted it, but now I had to figure out how to actually get up there to get it. I used the Pause button a LOT while falling thru the clouds, to try & look for what I figured was probably a hidden spring in a single round shaped cloud, since I KNEW the level had those in other spots & figured that might be the way to get to the emerald. Ended up being right about that. After scouring the cloudscape I was finally able to find the single random round cloud that had the hidden spring allowing me enough height & distance to get the Emerald.
I felt quite accomplished & always considered that my greatest gaming feat as a kid. I can't imagine many kids finding all of the Emeralds completely on their own.
Growing up, Sonic 2 and Road Rash were the only Game Gear games I owned. So I found the emeralds mapping the whole levels in my head with each playthrough. It was a satisfying feat; few can say they did it back then! So, congrats on that fellow 8-bit Emerald Hunter! I streamed the game a few years ago and could still find them after all this time, much to my surprise! In Sky High Zone Act 2, you could also use the hang glider at the beginning of the Act to reach the Emerald, but in the stream, I failed and had to fall back on the cloud spring in the end! 😅
@@RamuneRabbit Funny cus I vaguely remember seeing someone do it w the Hangglider online & had no idea you could do that. But yeah it felt like I had done something really tough to do when I finally accomplished it as a youngster.
is the game gear version like the master system version?
i loved finding the emeralds on the sonic 1 for master system as a kid. The jungle zone one was classic
@frankkkbard0n315 they are the “same” but have a few differences. Not just the viewing ratio. In sonic 1 some of the emeralds are in different places
Another wonderful video, thank you! Your coverage of 90s Sega is unparalleled. Such fond memories of the Genesis era, which to this day remains pound-for-pound my favourite console ever.
Thanks! Next up is phantasy Star 4!!
Sonic CD, Sonic Chaos and Sonic Spinball are truly good for being a great player in the 90’s. Next year in February you should make a video of the 30th Anniversary of Sonic 3 “Hedgehog Day”!
Come back on February 2 to see what happens!
I remember my xmas that year - i had spinball and CD... good times!
Awesome! Good to hear
Another awesome and well done video. Great job GTV and thanks!
Cheers and thanks 🍺
Man... you guys make bangers!!
Thanks! I appreciate the support!!
But I am only one man, making videos on my downtime at work.
Man I love your videos, especially the Sega stuff!
More Sega is on the way
I didn't realize they had another specific Sonic Day, but that's awesome. Great video!
It gets kind of lost in between sonic 2 and 3. Thanks for watching!!
I’m gonna wait till th 23rd of November to watch this video
Knowing that Mario and Sonic’s popularity is increasing following the release of “Sonic Superstars” and “Super Mario Bros. Wonder” respectively sure gets me excited for more of their upcoming movies!
The latest news I’ve read is that Sonic might surpass Mario, but I like both of them tbh.
Sonic already surpassed Mario in 1992!
On of my favorite channels...not just because the content is great but because I know my comment will always get a reply!
It would be cruel not to acknowledge those who took time out of their day to watch the channel! Have a good mania day next week 🍺🦔🦔🦔
Another great episode! My bday is 24 Nov. I remember getting a Genesis with Sonic 2 that day. My friends and I were ecstatic. Best Bday ever!!! Thanks Sega!!!😂
Happy birthday 🎂
18:53 the green hills zone from 8-bit sonic 2 does have the more accurate rendition of said song though, also the strike dash you mention in 18:38 i think sonic cd used the term super peel-out for that one
I guess it depends on what region but yeah🦔
I love these videos. I'm a sucker for games marketing and how companies would roll out events, or even small elements like how they market the games in commercials.
Another great video. Thanks for sharing!
Me too! Sega did marketing the best by far.
I remember those days, when i had a NES and my cousin had a Master System 2, here in Spain the MS was huge, i knew a lot of people that had it and eventually i had mine too. I loved Sonic, near my parent's house there was a video store that had the Mega Drive running with Sonic 2, and i dreamed having it, every day i sat there seeing the game demo running non stop. My aunt then bought Sonic Chaos to my cousin for his birthday present and i was amazed, i went to his house and played Sonic like every day hahaha oh and played Alex Kidd too! good times.
That’s a great story! I’ve heard the sms was big in Spain. It must have been fun times
I had no clue that these games were connected this way. I remember enjoying Sonic 2 on the Game Gear a lot back then, it's amazing how different it is from the original 16-bit version and a great game in its own right. I also like Spinball but its soundtracks are too short and loop constantly, but it's still fun to play.
While I remember playing Sonic CD and how amazing the animated intro is, it's a bit nostalgic too but I don't like this game, I feel it's a chore to play and honestly the level design seems to have been made by amateurs, sure it has its qualities in visuals, FMVs and soundtrack but that's it for me. Also, why SoA decided to redo its entire soundtrack is quite ridiculous, instead of focusing on bringing quality titles, spending resources and wasting time on something that had nothing wrong with it comes to show the first signs of a divided company. I know Shinobi X/Legions has a improved soundtrack in Europe, but maybe this is a case where the redone work is objectively better than the original.
A tip for those who want to try the 8-bit Sonic games is to always go for the SMS versions, as they have the proper resolution, while the Game Gear games suffer from zoomed in areas due to its lower screen resolution.
I missed this in my notifications!
Dohhhh!
Damn I feel old...
i got spinball and chaos as holiday gifts. I only beat Spinball 30 years later, this year playing it on NSO. (Rewind helped a lot 😂)
Still can't complete that savagely hard game.
Ps did you know the sound was meant to be so much better...can't remember the reason, but the option screen sound, was awesome before they changed it to the GEMS driver.
Wish I knew the vid/channel I saw it on now. Probably gamehut.
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP Rewind helps a lot, more than saved states, lol. I was actually surprised I beat it. It is a pretty harfd game to do legit.
@@thecunninlynguist ahh I get ya
I remember all the hype for Sonic Spinball and Sonic CD in the magazines at the time. However, I'm not a fan of any of those games. Sonic CD is a good game, but in my opinion, it was a step backward from Sonic 2. The game required more exploration, and I loved the faster pace of Sonic 2. I don't like Sonic Spinball at all. It was a good idea, but the game is not on the same level as most other Sonic games of the time, quality-wise. But I cannot deny the power of those special Sonic launch days in the 90s. Thank you very much for publishing another excellent video.
Honestly sonic CD is like Sonic 1.5 but awesome music! So I can see that. Also no tails and no touched up graphics like sonic 2. But hey they did what they could.
@@GTV-Japan Sonic CD is a really good game. A lot of people love it. As you say, however, is more of a Sonic 1.5. I like Japanese soundtrack more, though.
Great research and video👍👍👍
Thank you 🦔🦔🦔🦔
@@GTV-Japan anytime
I'm ALWAYS down for more Sonic or Mega Man content from GTV!!!!! .............................SEGA!!!!!
Sega!!!! I’ll be doing the Megaman 5 manga around Christmas 🎅
Sonic Chaos rules.
It does! The best of the GG Sonics🦔🦔🦔🦔
23:33 $39.99 for Sonic Chaos on Game Gear. That’s almost 90 dollars when adjusted for inflation. Games were expensive back then.
Yeah how did inflation jump up so suddenly? For us though it’s more about enyasu than anything.
I knew about Sonic 2's day before but Sonic Mania day was new for me, I've never heard anyone and I mean anyone mention Sonic Mania day.
I like how you write it 2’s Day in the possessive. I think it’s cooler that way. In the comments it seems like some remember mania day but not all. I think being us only is part of that but it wasn’t given the same push, it feels like. Not sure. Thanks for watching 🦔🦊
Sonic 2 (8-Bit) has You Can Do Anything as the theme of Green Hills Zone.
Yeah it does!
So it was the American studios that did the Game Gear Sonic games? I did not know that!
Glad to know this considering how much Nostalgia I have for them. Watching this vid is causing all of it to come flooding back! I REALLY want to go try Sonic Chaos on the SMS now! Looks like it would be a LOT of fun with the improved screen resolution!
Only Sonic Spinball was done by Americans. Sonic Chaos and the other Game Gear Sonic games that followed were handled by Aspect Co., Ltd., A COMPLETELY Japanese game studio.
@@RamuneRabbit Ah I see, fair enough.
That's awesome. Now I want a video on the holiday season of 1994 and Donkey Kong Country. Let's see if Sega still comes on top...
Sure. Let’s make it happen
@@GTV-Japan Your channel is really good and you always answer the commemts. Thank you and keep up the great work!!!
I’ll try to! I already have sonic and knuckles vs donkey Kong county on the drawing board. Looking back it was pretty interesting to see Nintendo punch back. Of course I reply to comments! The only time I don’t is like if someone leaves 5 in a row and I just reply to the longest one or if it’s nonsense and I can’t understand it 😂 but I have read every comment since I started and even the negative ones I let stand. If it’s so awful then UA-cam won’t let it through anyway but that’s a different story. I appreciate every viewer because you took the time to watch and the time to comment, it would be wrong to just ignore that!! When I started I swore I’d never be the channel that ignores comments. ALL the big channels do that. Sure there are videos with 1000s of “great video” I can understand skipping some of them but then I’ve seen genuine questions that will never go answered. I don’t care if I have a million subscribers and it takes 4-5 hours a day to get through comments. I will never let those comments go by. Never!!! 😃
After watching this I don't remember hearing anything about Sonic mania day in 1993? Probably because I was too busy playing on my SNES ;)
Yeah, I don't recall Sega doing any advertising in SNES games.
This is interesting from an American perspective since you only mention the Master System as a footnote with Chaos. The original Master System version is really the best way to play Chaos and I can't imagine playing that on a Game Gear with that resolution. 😂
You did forget to mention also that Spinball was later released for the Master System, not just the GG.
Yes it was also on the sms of course but it was only a 27 minute show.
@@GTV-Japan Oh okay.
I read an article on Time Extension that talked about the creation of the Sega Menacer, and that article also mentioned the tension that existed between Japanese and Western Sega employees.
Certainly there was. I mean which was the 'real' sega? I think a lot of 'tension' though is just pressure to success. When it doesn't happen, bad things follow. I am certain every company of every type would say there is some tension always going on. Well, the home office of Japan got their way in the end....
Got Sonic Chaos on Game Gear and Sonic Spinball on Genesis!
You the man!
Did someone mention Johnny Turbo? ZARK!
That darn Feka!!
I would love for Sonic Day to be in its pre-existence like Mario Day and Pokémon Day.
But wouldn’t pre existence mean it never happened ?
@@GTV-Japan yes. I meant exist for real.
I feel like we are in a other sonic mania wra
If there is a link between "Sonic Chaos" and "Sonic CD" you forgot there is already one between "Sonic" and "Sonic CD" with its ending music.
Yeah there’s that too! Nd sonic 2 on GG
Sonic Spinball may well be my second fav Sonic game right after 3. I've put so many hours into those 4 levels and love how is featured cameos in the bonus levels of characters from the cartoon series (the darker one, not the kid-friendly idiotic one)
Oh yeah that’s right!!
18:50 - That's not quite correct. The earliest version of "You can do Anything" was first used in the 8-bit Sonic 2, specifically the Green Hills Zone from that game. A full year before Sonic CD even existed.
And for all intents and purposes, those first three 8-bit games were designed for the Master System first. Screen crunch problems came when porting them to Game Gear.
Doh.
This was on my 2nd birthday!
Happy birthday young man!
My older brother David turned 14 on this day
Happy birthday 🎂
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the last minute panic over Sonic Spinball. The first copies made had music from Dreams come True (The title and Game Over tracks).
Just before Sonic Mania day, a pre launch party for Spinball had a representative from Japan ask "Hey, did you get permission to use Dream's music?" A big OH FUCK moment happened as the team raced to change the music and recall all copies of the game before launch. Those sold before Mania day still exist but it's hard to tell the difference between the versions just from the cartridge. Even then, the price difference between the two versions aren't worthy outside of a few dollars or so.
That will come up in sonic 3
Those tracks are labeled Beta Tracks if you download the GYM files. Howard Drowsin composed the music to Spinball. I think he used those Tracks as placeholder and forgot to remove them.
The only way to tell is from the title screen music.
Sonic Chaos is pretty fun, but my favorite gg sonic is Sonic Drift 2
Is that sonic? Well yeah I guess so
@@GTV-Japan I like to pretend that Sonic Racing All-Stars is Sonic Drift 3
@greenkoopa nice
Hey uh what about dr. robotnik's mean bean machine that came out along with them?
That came out on Nov 26!
@@GTV-Japan I'm aware but maybe on the sonic 3 video and you can also talk about the 8 bit version of sonic spinball?
@JaxTheEpic I don’t know I’ll have to see where the writing takes things. I’m sure it will be a mention if I run down the list of all the games of 94
Fantastic🧑🍳💋
The thing that always struck me about Sonic Spinball was that it was the ONLY officially published Sonic game to acknowledge the characters from Sonic SatAM, though it was their prototype Archie Comics versions. And it was adapted (very loosely) into an episode of Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog.
Also, I know it's from the Ren and Stimpy era, but those 90's video game commercials are gross. Just, almost puked when that guy's eyeballs slid out of his mouth.
Someone else said that too. Unfortunately I never saw the cartoon. Long story short
I never understood what was Yuji Naka’s beef everywhere he went. He has many great titles to his name but it was never enough I guess.
Some people are happy being unhappy I guess.
I know Sonic Spinball gets a lot of hate, but I always enjoyed it back in the Genesis days! I think it's better than ppl give it credit for, and I even liked the music which everyone seems to hate! I think they did a pretty decent job considering it uses the GEMS sound driver.
No, it's not a masterpiece, but I think it's solid enough & fun to play! I also really like the boss encounters.
I really like the music
@@GTV-Japan Ha, same. Glad to hear there's at least one other person that does. I especially loved the Boss & options menu music.
Gotta go fast.
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Sonic CD has always been my favourite Sonic game…and Sonic Spin-ball is just no.
I never had access to Sonic CD, so I picked it up in GameCube when it was re-released, I know a lot of people really love CD, But I was not a fan, I could never get into a flow, I always ran into stuff trying to go to the past, future, etc. It almost seemed to me they were drunk when they made CD, the zones at least to me were a jumbled mess, love the music both the English and Japanese tunes are classic Sonic all the way, but man I think you had to grow up with CD to like it as much as some do. love Chaos, spinball was ok, I'll listen to the soundtrack when I want my CD fix 😅
I think this is a common complaint. You have to know where time travel then often backtrack in an all new stage to find the machines to destroy. It is a little counter to what sonic is/should be, running and tearing it up!
@GTV-Japan I would love to see the same concept in a more structured environment in the same style as Superstars or Mania. The the idea/gimmick of CD was really cool.
@michaelmanning9028 yeah it was pretty cool. I guess the series wasn’t ready for that much deviation. As evidenced by how some people hate spinball too
STI is such an unfortunate acronym.
Well it’s better than SIT!
I still remember Sonic Mania day!
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I would love to hear more about Yuji Naka's story about vowing never to work with the American devs again. I bet this is very much out of context based on this video... I'd bet it had a lot to do with language barrier, being in a different country, and other things that are probably the opposite of what a lot of ppl are thinking after watching this video. This topic needs more coverage & clarity.
When I get to sonic 3 I’ll go more into it. Yes language barrier but he doesn’t come off as a very well liked person by those who worked with him.
@@GTV-Japan Yeah, sorry. I just meant that the video made it sound like there was some sort of animosity between the teams & just thinking about it I figured there had to be more to it. I am sure it must have been a nightmare for Naka trying to adapt to a foreign place like that, specially when having to work with devs who don't even speak the same language as yourself. I can just imagine that was a nightmare for all involved.
But you say Yuji Naka wasn't well liked? I didn't know that. I would love to see a video going more in depth into these topics for sure!
Ah! So THAT'S why Sonic CD doesn't feel very nice to control, cus it's based off Sonic 1! The improvements in the control of Sonic 2 while subtle were a huge improvement!
Yeah and it used the sonic 1 sprite which felt out of place.
@@GTV-Japan I like the premise behind Sonic CD but I could never really get into it. It just felt awkward to play as did the level design. It just wasn't for me.
But at least it wasn't as bad as Knuckles Chaotix! Now THAT game was awkward! It was the first game I got for the 32X & I did not like it AT ALL!
So, Sega wins in the 16 bits war at 1991, 1992 and 1993.
And Nintendo only in 1994 and 1995?
I think so.
I will come back to cover Sonic 3 and Donkey Kong Kong Country, the results will be very interesting to see!
the console wars back then had so much more character
True but I much prefer today where basically you have a vcr style setup that plays almost everything and you don’t have to worry much about it. Oh and the graphics are much better today too 🦔
@@GTV-Japan of course, i just said the console wars back then had more character, means nowadays its just about who has what eclusive, who buys what studio, but no "spice" in the war like back then, no counter advertisement like the one in the tvads in your video. today they would be afraid to be sued to name the competitor directly in a tvad.
@ot4_retrogaming oh yeah. Well who even watches tv anymore? 😂 Sega’s ads were always the best! I love how they were on the offensive
Sega could've had it all back then. But they forgot that the race aint won until you reach the finish line. The rift that developed between SOJ and SOA had serious ramifications in the upcoming next console generation.
They could have stayed on track but it didn’t matter. Nothing was stopping Sony. They were going to steam roll over everything regardless
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I recently came across a Kanlinske interview about Sony also offering Sega the Playstation tech. Kalinske had finalized it with Sony execs but Nakayama turned it down. They could've continued their Western success since there was a 2 year delay on the N64 versus the PS1.
@AMurder0fCrows44 yeah that’s a well known story but I think if Tom had his way and there were no PlayStation he would have run the Genesis out as long as far as possible. Just like Nintendo did
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Huh? 4 screens at once?
Just a way to shake things up
@@GTV-Japan No, I mean, the subtitles had a description of the visual part of the video for a few frames
@marx4538 oh. That was to remind me to put that in there. Haha
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Oh, I see, my bad
@marx4538 I should erase it. But hey some old CC have funny messages in them. Why not look for more 😂
SEGA!!!
That is how I know I got a good Sega game.
I'm not a Sonic super fan, but I was surprised to see what looks like an alternative design for Amy Rose at 9:12 for a few frames. Never seen it and a casual google search showed nothing.
Oh really? Then it’s good it made the final cut. 🦔🦔
That is not Amy Rose but Tiara Boobowski a character from the scrapped Sonic Xtreme.
@@GTV-Japan They’re wrong. That’s Tiara Boobowski. She was going to be in Sonic Xtreme, a scrapped Sonic game.
@DumuziTheOriginalGod ohhhh
@@DumuziTheOriginalGod Ah, thanks!
When the sti teams were...segagrated......
They were. Sonic 3 and spinball
@@GTV-Japan Sega...grated, see what I did there? :-).....I'll let myself out
@gr8sienyman11 I wonder what they did over at interplay
Question have you played donkey kong country
A few times.
Do a video on it pls
@uroskesic6117 oh sure. But the next video will be on phantasy Star IV the greatest game of all time
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Is it Super Sonic warror or Toot toot Sonic warior. I say it's Super.
It’s Chuu chuu like a train
Not gonna lie, between the stuff he pulled with Sonic X-Treme and This, Yuji Naka comes off as quite the d-bag.
There’s that word again!
0:00 My eyes don't thank you...
Is Miles called Kilometers outside the USA? LOL
Only where metricfication happens
Kilometers The Fox
@EWOODJ decimeters per ghurry
The one good thing to come out of the Sega of America tampering was Sonic Boom. That was a fantastic opening track I must say!
Other than that I wasn't really a fan of the Sonic CD's music here in the States. They should have left it alone.
I thought i was the only one! However the stage clear music in the us was also much better. The Japanese one just sounds like noise and doesn’t have any meaning to it
@@GTV-Japan Agreed. They did do a couple things right. Sonic Boom will forever stick with me, & I usually can't stand lyrics in my game music!
Yuji Naka was such a d-bag.
Man I hate using the R card, but from how you described Yuji's behavior after Sonic 2... makes him sound racist.
So you have a hard project, do you say that you hate all Americans and demand your company to create a discriminatory work space that bans people because of their ethnicity afterwards? That sort of racist behavior shouldn't have been tolerated. The correct company response should be to fire said individual.
I already suspected he held grudges against the USA division when he went out of his way to block Sonic Extreme from working out, but wow... yeah. What a racist douche and a inside trader too. It's good that he at last got some karma for his racism, helping crash Sega out of the console space and said inside trading.
I don’t know what the R card means. But it is true that Yuji did not get along with the Americans because of language barriers and because of differences in how work was done. He seems like the kind of guy who doesn’t like working with anybody regardless of but it is still true that he worked on sonic 3 with Japanese staff at least until the project got so big he had no choice. But these videos are meant to tell a story arc so this will come up more in the Sonic 3 video which is more about him and his work. In this video I did try to paint the image of all that was going around while he was locked away doing Sonic 3. Thanks for your comment and opinions!🦔🦔🦔
Also I think insider trading is a process crime and should not be “illegal.” It’s not fair that if you own stock in something you worked on you have to just sit there and watch the value fall to zero. Why is it a “crime” to sell that off and try to recover your losses? It makes no sense to me.
@@GTV-Japan It's a good video and it told the tale well. I was a kid then with no Internet. So a lot of it breezed by me then.
R card=racist card, not my reference. I guess some card player came up with it.
Yes Indeed it sounded like he also didn't like working to other peoples deadlines. But when it came to Sonic Extreme and him blocking SoA from using his game engine, it all paints a nasty picture of him (in my opinion.) His actions harmed the company employing him and ultimately helped Sega exit the console space.
@ReinMixTape the thing is when you move to Japan you’re kind of frozen in time. You stop having natural English conversations with people and especially 20 years ago you were cut off from most media. The only people you get to converse with are also people like yourself who are frozen in time and you talk about the things going on here, or just business. So you end up not hearing new words or phrases. I jokingly call this “20th century English” but it’s true! And so I hear things sometimes in comments that I have no idea what they mean. English in 2023 is mostly incomprehensible to me 😂
@@GTV-Japan I hadn't thought about that before, then again I've not lived in a country where English isn't the primary language... yet. 20th century English... I like it.