I have grown to heavily dislike the reason "there's no reason to go there" because the same could be said about the cherry groves, the meadows, or birch forests. There is no reason to go to those places besides wood or decorative blocks
I wish this was official, this is such a cool addition but the pale pumpkin reminded me of MCSM so that was something. Another cool idea for the grave would be to have the sword spawn with a lower durability and have a special item that makes it look like the sword is stabbed in the dirt and if you take the sword or things in the grave it spawns some kind of undead mob (A vex, Skeleton, or Zombie would make the most sense)
These are all great ideas--and well implemented! I really liked your take on the pale pumpkin as well. For the gravestone, I'd suggest the chest has an axe instead of a sword (the axe would be more helpful against the Creaking), and the chest should be buried two blocks instead of one because it would feel more realistic that way
' Or buried six blocks deep to make it more realistic. But to make it a shallow grave can really add to the horror, along with finding a half-destroyed log house in the middle of the forest with a chest that contains some loot... And also a book that was used as a journal by someone who was before the player, with the final words in the book "I am sorry, it was the only thing left to do to save you... Forgive me." with an axe with very low durability and an Oxeye daisy next to it. There would be only one singular log house in one pale garden biome. Any other pale garden biomes would have only the graves to imply the significance of the structure and the tragic lore tied to it. Rather than always appearing like a Village that you can loot without consequence. ' - Chrome
Awesome video!!! Also I subbed :) I got my list of Ideas for the new Biome/Mob List: - The Pale Gardens get moved to the Caves, since it's more spooky down there. - No other Mobs spawn in the Pale Garden except for the Creaking for the same reasons why the Warden is the only Mob that can spawn in the Deep Dark - The Creaking would attack any mob it sees, so if something like a Sheep or a Cow is looking at the Creaking while it is stalking them, it would stand still, but once they turn away, the Creaking would go after that mob, but the only mob it would not go after could be the Creeper because they explode.
I feel like creaking shrooms should grow on trees too, mostly three blocks above the ground to mimic the creaking the most, looking more like the shrooms that usually grow on trees than the four mushrooms already in the game to feel weirder, more different.
this is actually a great concept!! i love the white rose, the ruin garden, grave, fog and the white pumpkin idea!! it sounded more eerie and more exciting of reasoning to explore!
I love all the things, I do believe that the eyes on the mushrooms would work well along with the garden ruins. also the thought of intense fog that makes you isolated from outside of the garden is such a neat concept! I think what would be col to add that will not only make the player freak out and be on guard, but also fulfill a wish so many players wanted is to add fireflies that only spawn in the garden, they would be similar colors to the eyes, plus they will be moving constantly which in turn will make the player have a more difficult time discerning which is the creaking and what's not. we also could do with more plant life I think, so defiantly more foliage! I don't know why, but when I think of the pale garden, I think about a maze, and bushes, so if there was a structure that implemented that plus the creaking, that would be extra scary and fun!
' The Creaking Heart being similar to a fungus could be a cool idea, slowly infecting the tree with each night. Until it becomes a giant boss variant of The Creaking that has the entire Pale Garden as its body, even with combined Creaking Hearts if present during the time. The amount of Creaking Hearts combined into the Giant boss variant buffs their stats. Also, The Creaking Garden (Boss name) would become invulnerable to fire as the necrotic magic contained within the Creaking Hearts has reached a zenith point of power. The ability to infect mobs/monsters/players with a fungus similar to cordyceps would be terrifying, what could be more terrifying is that you won't know if the boss is there until you attack one of the hearts to destroy its avatar. The avatar would appear faster and stronger than the normal Creaking monster. These avatars could also spawn during nighttime while also fighting The Creaking Garden as an added threat. Upon killing The Creaking Garden, the pale garden would return back to normal within where it perishes (Keep it away from your base unless you want a tree house). And one of the many possible drops could be a pale mushroom that can brewed into a new potion of Confusion that can make monsters become passive, mobs become aggressive, making mobs/monsters attack one another or to cause monsters to accidentally hurt themselves. This potion could also affect players as they could get hurt by their own weapons while attacking (The Mace would one-shot you if you tried to one-shot a monster/mob with the potion effect still affecting you) And cause illusions that can intensify by potency and duration of potion of Confusion. These illusions can be harmless in very weak potions that don't last longer than 2 minutes, but can become harmful if constantly applied in large potent amounts of high durations. (Jumpscares are just not scary enough... Get them psychologically, really test their wits on their reality around them as it tears apart in front of their eyes with some things in the peripheral vision that are getting closer...) Hope this idea is a good one and can be used within the next video ' - Chrome
The big shroom is like a combo of the red and brown shrooms. I love that. A brand new shroom is a fantastic idea. Along with the rose bush. Top notch ideas.
i think we need multiple different creaking like the original design nice it's asymmetrical and overall not part of life but you see multiple of them that is the same the vibe you get from the creaking's body shape kinda goes away so you need multiple different types of creaking to make it look even more diverse and creepy with some even having cool abilities to scare the crap out of you.
Hello dear Tarmon, I have a mod in progress named The Pale Gardens Plus! (And I would LOVE to use these concepts and ideas for my mod). May I PLEASE 🥺🥺🥺 use them??
I have an idea of my own, what if the creaking switched back and forth between having to look at it, and avoiding to look at it. while approaching, but not attacking.
lets be honest they wouldn't add loot to the graves because ya know the parrot incident they dont want their impresonable children to go grave robbing lol
I think the name "pale shroom" sounds better than creaking mushroom. Cool stuff u got here though. I'll cheak out your other stuff. I wanna make a video with my pale garden ideas too. What additional I'd like to see, how I think creaking biology works, and how they might be connected to the illagers in the woodland mansion. I've never made a video longer than a few minutes. I'll try something though
Gostaria que a abóbora clara fosse usada pra criar golens malignos que caçam o player e aldeões. Imaginei o golen de ferro tendo a aparência igual a do Golden normal mas com as vinhas escuras, rosas brancas e olhos laranja. O golem de neve só mudaria a cor da abóbora mesmo.
I don't know why people think we need to add 1000 things to a small biome getting added in a game drop. Like, it's stupid to think they should add a fricking variant of every block (pumpkins, mushrooms, flowers, bushes...) to a SINGLE biome. This is meant to be a fun challenge to take at night, not for it to be the next big biome you can encounter in a big update. If it was like that they would've hold onto it for 1.22 not for a small game drop coming in December. Seriously, why do people want to see a different pumpkin JUST for this biome?? White pumpkins exist, well ok sure, green pumpkins also exist and I dont see them adding them at any moment. Just because the biome turns out to be pale it doesnt mean you just drop a new pumpkin for that and be like "ok cool". I also hate the idea of adding fireflies just for them to be confused with the creaking's eyes. Not only because it wouldn't work at all, like the creaking is standing still and not moving literally everytime you see him and fireflies are literally always moving, like who the hell would actually confuse anything there, but also because its just like what I said earlier. Why the hell would we just go on and add fireflies to this biome specifically to his biome and having them not be anywhere else and having their purpose just be to be confused with the creaking's eyes. Also, not only for fireflies but for any block trying to be confused with the creaking; it wont ever camouflage at all. Like night is so bright nowadays in Minecraft, you would have to be absolutely blind in order to confuse the creaking with even the trees, which is what the mob was made to camouflage with. Also, fireflies or any block trying to imitate the creaking's eyes would suck even more because if the whole point of the biome is that everything is pale, and then you have many blocks with yellow and fireflies all over the place giving color to the place, then what would be the point of it being a pale biome at all??? The only changes to the pale garden I favour are make the creaking faster and have way more damage, having the dirt be also pale, because right now it contrast too much with literally everything else (and adding fireflies would only make this a hell of a lot worse), adding fog and maybe having some sort of main structure if it's possible (it doesn't have to be very big, maybe just an abandoned house).
Why are you so against more content? Also, its not like this guy is complaining about the lack of anything in this new biome (it is actually really empty), he was just showing the potential with some simple additions, which would take the devs minutes to add. Its fine if you're happy with it, but most people think it could be expanded on a lot more.
@@Oscar-ek2jx it's about consistency between biomes and the content that is added. If one biome gets a whole set of block variants all for itself, you know what it would start to feel like? A mod. And that is exactly one thing Mojang is concerned about. They want to keep the game as vanilla as possible and adding so much to this single small biome would make it feel too separated. Like, if you're going to add a new pumpkin variant, add it for more biomes. If you're going to add a whole new different type of mushroom and mushroom blocks for this biomes, then add it for more biomes.The problem is that these features sound too centered on this biome specificaly, basically as if it was ignorating the rest of the game, which is what non-vanilla mods do. I haven't said I wouldn't like for some of these features to be added, I have said they wouldn't fit and would cause consistency issues. Also, no, it wouldn't take the devs only minutes to add these. Not gonna bother explaining why Mojang takes so much time to add things to the game as I'm sure i've explained it more times than enough in other places, and I'm tired of it, but no, not minutes, maybe like 2 or 3 months, which is basically around the time the game drop is releasing anyway so I guess it doesn't matter.
@@nega-guythe problem is that the pale garden is a biome with a gimmick, and what's the point of adding a biome with a whole new mechanic with no incentives? Sure it doesn't need a billion new content. But currently the pale garden isn't unique or different from any biome because it's just a retextured dark oak Forest. New plants would add a more unique appearence to It.
@@KattyKitten69 New plants aren't gonna make you wanna fight the creaking more let's be honest. And still, why should you be that incentivized to do what essentially is a minigame at all? If you like it, just go there at night and try to survive if that's the fun for you. You dont need to have a GIANT reason to go to a biome.
I especially love the thornbushes to make backing away hazardous, would really add to the panic
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i feel like this fixes the issue the pale garden had where it had no reason to be explored in game until now
I have grown to heavily dislike the reason "there's no reason to go there" because the same could be said about the cherry groves, the meadows, or birch forests. There is no reason to go to those places besides wood or decorative blocks
I wish this was official, this is such a cool addition but the pale pumpkin reminded me of MCSM so that was something.
Another cool idea for the grave would be to have the sword spawn with a lower durability and have a special item that makes it look like the sword is stabbed in the dirt and if you take the sword or things in the grave it spawns some kind of undead mob (A vex, Skeleton, or Zombie would make the most sense)
ooh that could be cool!
These are all great ideas--and well implemented! I really liked your take on the pale pumpkin as well. For the gravestone, I'd suggest the chest has an axe instead of a sword (the axe would be more helpful against the Creaking), and the chest should be buried two blocks instead of one because it would feel more realistic that way
oh yeah good idea!
' Or buried six blocks deep to make it more realistic. But to make it a shallow grave can really add to the horror, along with finding a half-destroyed log house in the middle of the forest with a chest that contains some loot...
And also a book that was used as a journal by someone who was before the player, with the final words in the book "I am sorry, it was the only thing left to do to save you... Forgive me." with an axe with very low durability and an Oxeye daisy next to it.
There would be only one singular log house in one pale garden biome. Any other pale garden biomes would have only the graves to imply the significance of the structure and the tragic lore tied to it. Rather than always appearing like a Village that you can loot without consequence. ' - Chrome
Awesome video!!! Also I subbed :) I got my list of Ideas for the new Biome/Mob
List:
- The Pale Gardens get moved to the Caves, since it's more spooky down there.
- No other Mobs spawn in the Pale Garden except for the Creaking for the same reasons why the Warden is the only Mob that can spawn in the Deep Dark
- The Creaking would attack any mob it sees, so if something like a Sheep or a Cow is looking at the Creaking while it is stalking them, it would stand still, but once they turn away, the Creaking would go after that mob, but the only mob it would not go after could be the Creeper because they explode.
May I use this list to create my mod, The Pale Gardens Plus??
@@plant_king_eli sure :)
uh why would something like this be in caves that's just a stupid idea but the rest you got something going.
I feel like creaking shrooms should grow on trees too, mostly three blocks above the ground to mimic the creaking the most, looking more like the shrooms that usually grow on trees than the four mushrooms already in the game to feel weirder, more different.
this is actually a great concept!! i love the white rose, the ruin garden, grave, fog and the white pumpkin idea!! it sounded more eerie and more exciting of reasoning to explore!
I love all the things, I do believe that the eyes on the mushrooms would work well along with the garden ruins. also the thought of intense fog that makes you isolated from outside of the garden is such a neat concept! I think what would be col to add that will not only make the player freak out and be on guard, but also fulfill a wish so many players wanted is to add fireflies that only spawn in the garden, they would be similar colors to the eyes, plus they will be moving constantly which in turn will make the player have a more difficult time discerning which is the creaking and what's not. we also could do with more plant life I think, so defiantly more foliage! I don't know why, but when I think of the pale garden, I think about a maze, and bushes, so if there was a structure that implemented that plus the creaking, that would be extra scary and fun!
' The Creaking Heart being similar to a fungus could be a cool idea, slowly infecting the tree with each night.
Until it becomes a giant boss variant of The Creaking that has the entire Pale Garden as its body, even with combined Creaking Hearts if present during the time.
The amount of Creaking Hearts combined into the Giant boss variant buffs their stats. Also, The Creaking Garden (Boss name) would become invulnerable to fire as the necrotic magic contained within the Creaking Hearts has reached a zenith point of power.
The ability to infect mobs/monsters/players with a fungus similar to cordyceps would be terrifying, what could be more terrifying is that you won't know if the boss is there until you attack one of the hearts to destroy its avatar.
The avatar would appear faster and stronger than the normal Creaking monster. These avatars could also spawn during nighttime while also fighting The Creaking Garden as an added threat.
Upon killing The Creaking Garden, the pale garden would return back to normal within where it perishes (Keep it away from your base unless you want a tree house). And one of the many possible drops could be a pale mushroom that can brewed into a new potion of Confusion that can make monsters become passive, mobs become aggressive, making mobs/monsters attack one another or to cause monsters to accidentally hurt themselves.
This potion could also affect players as they could get hurt by their own weapons while attacking (The Mace would one-shot you if you tried to one-shot a monster/mob with the potion effect still affecting you) And cause illusions that can intensify by potency and duration of potion of Confusion.
These illusions can be harmless in very weak potions that don't last longer than 2 minutes, but can become harmful if constantly applied in large potent amounts of high durations. (Jumpscares are just not scary enough... Get them psychologically, really test their wits on their reality around them as it tears apart in front of their eyes with some things in the peripheral vision that are getting closer...)
Hope this idea is a good one and can be used within the next video ' - Chrome
4:00 the peering block
ooh great name!
awesome
The big shroom is like a combo of the red and brown shrooms. I love that. A brand new shroom is a fantastic idea. Along with the rose bush. Top notch ideas.
Nice skin man, I also made a Creaking skin for halloween :D
3:57 Perhaps maybe the "Watching Creaking Mushroom Block"?
i love the abandoned garden idea
I need big mushrooms in the pale garden since dark oak has big mushrooms
thats what i was thinking haha!
Oh I adore the ruined garden
Cool!! This might help me for my first experimental update!
1:46 Mojang has granted your wish :D
i think we need multiple different creaking like the original design nice it's asymmetrical and overall not part of life but you see multiple of them that is the same the vibe you get from the creaking's body shape kinda goes away so you need multiple different types of creaking to make it look even more diverse and creepy with some even having cool abilities to scare the crap out of you.
@@Theredknight-y6y ooh yeah that is a good idea :)
Hello dear Tarmon, I have a mod in progress named The Pale Gardens Plus! (And I would LOVE to use these concepts and ideas for my mod). May I PLEASE 🥺🥺🥺 use them??
that would be sick, as long as you put credit somewhere absolutley!
@@Tarmon_ you got it
@@Tarmon_ I will send you updates from every once in a while too! (If that's okay)
Hey will you make videos about it?@@plant_king_eli
@@DOGEKB Yes!
Ok I am taking notes 🧐
Great ideas!
Arlo said its too scary
Need these in the game
soul fire pale pumpkin
oooh thats such a good idea, i was actually just thinking of that this morning!
@@Tarmon_ Thanks!
I have an idea of my own, what if the creaking switched back and forth between having to look at it, and avoiding to look at it. while approaching, but not attacking.
lets be honest they wouldn't add loot to the graves because ya know the parrot incident they dont want their impresonable children to go grave robbing lol
I think the name "pale shroom" sounds better than creaking mushroom. Cool stuff u got here though. I'll cheak out your other stuff.
I wanna make a video with my pale garden ideas too. What additional I'd like to see, how I think creaking biology works, and how they might be connected to the illagers in the woodland mansion.
I've never made a video longer than a few minutes. I'll try something though
@@zephdan those are some good ideas, appreciate it!
@Tarmon_
U appreciate me commenting? Not sure what u'r aiming it to
I don't now maybe a new ore?
Oh here we go a guy saying he is a creaking!
@@Witchyelfpeach11512 hah nah I’m not a creaking it was just a skin I made specifically for this drop.
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Gostaria que a abóbora clara fosse usada pra criar golens malignos que caçam o player e aldeões. Imaginei o golen de ferro tendo a aparência igual a do Golden normal mas com as vinhas escuras, rosas brancas e olhos laranja. O golem de neve só mudaria a cor da abóbora mesmo.
Did you quit microwave dinner?
MINECRAFT BEDROCK NEEDS PALE!!!!!!!!
I don't know why people think we need to add 1000 things to a small biome getting added in a game drop. Like, it's stupid to think they should add a fricking variant of every block (pumpkins, mushrooms, flowers, bushes...) to a SINGLE biome. This is meant to be a fun challenge to take at night, not for it to be the next big biome you can encounter in a big update. If it was like that they would've hold onto it for 1.22 not for a small game drop coming in December. Seriously, why do people want to see a different pumpkin JUST for this biome?? White pumpkins exist, well ok sure, green pumpkins also exist and I dont see them adding them at any moment. Just because the biome turns out to be pale it doesnt mean you just drop a new pumpkin for that and be like "ok cool". I also hate the idea of adding fireflies just for them to be confused with the creaking's eyes. Not only because it wouldn't work at all, like the creaking is standing still and not moving literally everytime you see him and fireflies are literally always moving, like who the hell would actually confuse anything there, but also because its just like what I said earlier. Why the hell would we just go on and add fireflies to this biome specifically to his biome and having them not be anywhere else and having their purpose just be to be confused with the creaking's eyes. Also, not only for fireflies but for any block trying to be confused with the creaking; it wont ever camouflage at all. Like night is so bright nowadays in Minecraft, you would have to be absolutely blind in order to confuse the creaking with even the trees, which is what the mob was made to camouflage with. Also, fireflies or any block trying to imitate the creaking's eyes would suck even more because if the whole point of the biome is that everything is pale, and then you have many blocks with yellow and fireflies all over the place giving color to the place, then what would be the point of it being a pale biome at all??? The only changes to the pale garden I favour are make the creaking faster and have way more damage, having the dirt be also pale, because right now it contrast too much with literally everything else (and adding fireflies would only make this a hell of a lot worse), adding fog and maybe having some sort of main structure if it's possible (it doesn't have to be very big, maybe just an abandoned house).
Why are you so against more content? Also, its not like this guy is complaining about the lack of anything in this new biome (it is actually really empty), he was just showing the potential with some simple additions, which would take the devs minutes to add.
Its fine if you're happy with it, but most people think it could be expanded on a lot more.
@@Oscar-ek2jx it's about consistency between biomes and the content that is added. If one biome gets a whole set of block variants all for itself, you know what it would start to feel like? A mod. And that is exactly one thing Mojang is concerned about. They want to keep the game as vanilla as possible and adding so much to this single small biome would make it feel too separated. Like, if you're going to add a new pumpkin variant, add it for more biomes. If you're going to add a whole new different type of mushroom and mushroom blocks for this biomes, then add it for more biomes.The problem is that these features sound too centered on this biome specificaly, basically as if it was ignorating the rest of the game, which is what non-vanilla mods do. I haven't said I wouldn't like for some of these features to be added, I have said they wouldn't fit and would cause consistency issues. Also, no, it wouldn't take the devs only minutes to add these. Not gonna bother explaining why Mojang takes so much time to add things to the game as I'm sure i've explained it more times than enough in other places, and I'm tired of it, but no, not minutes, maybe like 2 or 3 months, which is basically around the time the game drop is releasing anyway so I guess it doesn't matter.
@@nega-guythe problem is that the pale garden is a biome with a gimmick, and what's the point of adding a biome with a whole new mechanic with no incentives? Sure it doesn't need a billion new content. But currently the pale garden isn't unique or different from any biome because it's just a retextured dark oak Forest. New plants would add a more unique appearence to It.
@@KattyKitten69 New plants aren't gonna make you wanna fight the creaking more let's be honest. And still, why should you be that incentivized to do what essentially is a minigame at all? If you like it, just go there at night and try to survive if that's the fun for you. You dont need to have a GIANT reason to go to a biome.
Listen bro i’m just here for the white pumpkins