I've gone away from short rods in the last couple of years. With roomier shanties, there's just no reason for me to handicap myself with anything shorter than 36" or so. The longer rods are especially nice for fighting some of the deeper water fish we chase in depths of 75-110 feet. As always, thanks for the educational video, Tom. Good luck out there on the ice.
Tom, I'd like to thank you For all the informational videos and showing me how to fish I am starting to outfish my buddies! I have been doing really good with the acne hyperglides on perch When I can't get them to bite on live bait Weird.
In my area we jig without electronics. I’ve become quite a good line watcher and this means holding the rod still. No question, a longer rod excels AFTER the fish is hooked but to detect and stick ‘em, I’d recommend around 28”, give or take 4”, at least for targeting fish under 4 pounds. My two cents.
Great info Tom. Maybe another idea for a Tom Talk is flasher vs camera? Or maybe a demonstration of how to set up and use a flasher. (New to ice fishing) Enjoy your videos & content.
Best videos by far Tom …love all the information you give out ..growing up older guys always seemed to try to keep what they are doing and why they are doing it as a secret …thanks to your videos you literally helping me put more fish on the ice and in the boat all year round ..many thanks …
Thanks for the great info Tom. I’m a custom rod builder from Minocqua, WI. I’ve been trying to lean my customers into longer rods - the benefits are really clear. The main drawback I see at this point is that transport of the longer rods is not easy. Limited commercial options outside of the 2B long rod case. Most of my builds are in the 32-40” range, for all the reasons you mentioned.
Hey Tom! Happy Holidays! Thanks for all the great info. You have taught me a ton of great stuff over the last few years and I can't thank you enough! Always looking for your next video to learn more. Stay well and tight lines!!
would love to see a video of summer fishing rods and how u choose each rod for a specific presentation keep up the great work Tom always looking forward for your videos very informative and great content
Hey man I love long rods. I use to fish the old glass noodle rods. This year I’m building a 51” carbon rod. So freaking light with a cerecoil followed by regular ice recoil guides. I’ve had one for 10 years and figured I’d build some for friends. Maybe you’d like to try one? It’s made for a 4 mm tungsten so you can still pound it and honestly you don’t lose fish if you hook them. Very fun rod. I’d use 1 or 2lb flaurocarbon and still land nice pike on it in the mix. Let me know I don’t fish with anyone else’s rods they don’t compare. Mine are called jrods. 🤙🏻
Lol. I was just about to mention the ht blue ice. But I agree, I like the longer rods especially for running and gunning. I had a ultra light 30" walleye series made by Gander I still use for panfishing but been looking for an upgrade. These all look like great choices.
Thanks for all the videos you put out,it's alot of hard work,and happy newyear. Love the actions on the rods but I just can't get past the fact you gotta tape on your reel to 100$ plus dollar rod bro,it just cheapens up the whole set up,hope to see them come up with rods with reel seats goodluck stay safe
Custom rods don't have reel seats cause they add weight to the rod and weight takes away sensitivity. There is nothing wrong with taping your reel to a rod they even have tape they sale for that purpose in different color options
Bought a new camera Marcum 5 my 13 yr old loves that thing on clearer lakes we saw a huge cat fish sitting at the bottom of the basin while fishing for crappies I really bought it to learn more about my presentation to the fish and practice jigging and lifting thru the hit But it does affect my electronics I have a garmin striker vivid 5 ice not sure if I can turn down the gain but the camera does interfere with the ducer even when several feet away from the camera But the camera is amazing
You could do videos of looking at contour lines and describing how you dissect new lakes. Maybe dive into how to read fish surveys. Even if they are repeat topics a lot of us could use a refresher. Even if you aren't on the ice catching fish just listening to things in this video provides awesome info. I bought my new Elliot rod for dead stick based on your video and I smashed them the other day. I watched your tip up videos on how to set them up and my buddy who has never caught anything on tip ups brought up a 28 inch northern (Not huge and wrong species we wanted but still cool to see). On the ice or not on the ice your videos with educational stuff like this is always wanted. Keep it up.
Watching this looking at my three rods just thinking wow I need to upgrade got a 24" ht iceblues rod a 24" frabill and 26" frabill ice hunter signature series lol
Tom, How often do you change out old line on your ice fishing set ups.. I bought two new beaver dam rods you recommended to different lengths to see if I want to get into the long rod game but I found I’m farther from my ducer so getting more fish wrapped in the ducer cord easy fix but not ready to buy all new 44” rods plus expensive when the old ones work fine for now but good info for the guys want to start adding to the rod collection I got a mixed bag of favorite rods already hard to replace the memories of out fishing your buddy for a longer rod just my thoughts 💭
Tom new to northern wi just curious if there is a decent lake near ladysmith that produces decent walleye want my son to get into them thanks great videos man keep it up
I am one of those who actually IS interested in the fishery aspects... why is the fish population so low at 1.1 to 1.2 fish per acre? Is this due to low natural reproduction - minimal spawning habitat? Or is it a stocked fishery and the stocking rates are low? Or some other reason? Thanks.
Tom , I like a really good feel rod I don’t really care for Sight rods , I really want to feel the fish breathe on it, what is your best recommendation for the best all around Feel rod??
Cause cheap good don't go together no such thing as a cheap good rod just spend the extra little money for a good rod believe me you will be happy you did
Define cheap. You want a heavy action rod and a solid reel with a good drag. The piscifun 1000 is a decent reel for 60 bucks. Another 40-60 on a rod and you got a setup for 120 bucks. If you’re looking cheaper than that, go to Walmart and get a beaver dam tip up for 40 bucks or even worse, a prepackaged rod/reel combo that is too soft for a big laker.
I use a double Plano guide series spinning rod tube. Works good, i just sling it over my shoulder. But I only have 2 Elliot evolution rods. I think 2B makes a longer case as well that holds more.
@@pb-ki3nx so is the second rod the 44UL , he wasn’t clear on that one . Heard him say 42” then 44”. Curious as I already have the model and the 44L. Thanks
I mainly fish 5mm tungsten and small 1/16-1/8 spoons, #3-4 ripping raps and jigging raps. Which rod would you recommend? 44UL or 44L? Or does a guy get both?
I have both but love the 44L for jigging small lures such as 5mm tungsten jigs, small spoons, and the #2 #3 raps. The 44UL is a glass rod so it is not as sensitive as the 44L. I use that mostly as a dead stick with live bait.
IM A VERY HARDCORE ANGLER & AM JUST GETTING INTO ICE FISHING THE PNW. WELL,... ADD ANOTHER $1,000 MINIMUM TO MY RODS & REELS! THERE IS NO SINGLE ROD THAT DOES IT ALL!
I've gone away from short rods in the last couple of years. With roomier shanties, there's just no reason for me to handicap myself with anything shorter than 36" or so. The longer rods are especially nice for fighting some of the deeper water fish we chase in depths of 75-110 feet.
As always, thanks for the educational video, Tom. Good luck out there on the ice.
Might I suggest a video about different lines and the advantages and disadvantages of them?
Tom, I'd like to thank you For all the informational videos and showing me how to fish I am starting to outfish my buddies! I have been doing really good with the acne hyperglides on perch When I can't get them to bite on live bait Weird.
DESIGN THE "HOLY BOLEY " ROD!!!!!!!!
In my area we jig without electronics. I’ve become quite a good line watcher and this means holding the rod still. No question, a longer rod excels AFTER the fish is hooked but to detect and stick ‘em, I’d recommend around 28”, give or take 4”, at least for targeting fish under 4 pounds. My two cents.
Very good explanation of the different types and actions. Have been listening to you and starting to increase my rod length when I can
Great info Tom. Maybe another idea for a Tom Talk is flasher vs camera? Or maybe a demonstration of how to set up and use a flasher. (New to ice fishing) Enjoy your videos & content.
Have the 44.. and the 45.. love the feel..
Someday the 42
Best videos by far Tom …love all the information you give out ..growing up older guys always seemed to try to keep what they are doing and why they are doing it as a secret …thanks to your videos you literally helping me put more fish on the ice and in the boat all year round ..many thanks …
Thanks for the great info Tom. I’m a custom rod builder from Minocqua, WI. I’ve been trying to lean my customers into longer rods - the benefits are really clear. The main drawback I see at this point is that transport of the longer rods is not easy. Limited commercial options outside of the 2B long rod case. Most of my builds are in the 32-40” range, for all the reasons you mentioned.
Hey Tom! Happy Holidays! Thanks for all the great info. You have taught me a ton of great stuff over the last few years and I can't thank you enough! Always looking for your next video to learn more. Stay well and tight lines!!
I think the 2nd rod Tom talks about is the ES44UL-XF. Easy slip of the tongue :)
I was trying to figure out he said 42” than 44” … wasn’t sure if 42” Medium or the 44” UltraLight.
Love the info you give thank you!
Great job tom
It just makes sense. Thanks Tom
Dam 🎣 good info on selecting ice rods.
would love to see a video of summer fishing rods and how u choose each rod for a specific presentation keep up the great work Tom always looking forward for your videos very informative and great content
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Hey man I love long rods. I use to fish the old glass noodle rods. This year I’m building a 51” carbon rod. So freaking light with a cerecoil followed by regular ice recoil guides. I’ve had one for 10 years and figured I’d build some for friends. Maybe you’d like to try one? It’s made for a 4 mm tungsten so you can still pound it and honestly you don’t lose fish if you hook them. Very fun rod. I’d use 1 or 2lb flaurocarbon and still land nice pike on it in the mix. Let me know I don’t fish with anyone else’s rods they don’t compare.
Mine are called jrods. 🤙🏻
Great informational video. Already loving the Elliot 44" light. Very versatile rod. By the way you calander in the background says March lol.
Lol. I was just about to mention the ht blue ice. But I agree, I like the longer rods especially for running and gunning. I had a ultra light 30" walleye series made by Gander I still use for panfishing but been looking for an upgrade. These all look like great choices.
Great info tom love to know where to find those rods!!!
Great informational vid!
This is great information and thanks for sharing.
Thanks for all the videos you put out,it's alot of hard work,and happy newyear. Love the actions on the rods but I just can't get past the fact you gotta tape on your reel to 100$ plus dollar rod bro,it just cheapens up the whole set up,hope to see them come up with rods with reel seats goodluck stay safe
Custom rods don't have reel seats cause they add weight to the rod and weight takes away sensitivity. There is nothing wrong with taping your reel to a rod they even have tape they sale for that purpose in different color options
Just buy the rubber bands to put your reels on
Great video you mention links and what kind of rods down below which I don’t see thanks cliff
Bought a new camera Marcum 5 my 13 yr old loves that thing on clearer lakes we saw a huge cat fish sitting at the bottom of the basin while fishing for crappies
I really bought it to learn more about my presentation to the fish and practice jigging and lifting thru the hit
But it does affect my electronics I have a garmin striker vivid 5 ice not sure if I can turn down the gain but the camera does interfere with the ducer even when several feet away from the camera
But the camera is amazing
You could do videos of looking at contour lines and describing how you dissect new lakes. Maybe dive into how to read fish surveys. Even if they are repeat topics a lot of us could use a refresher. Even if you aren't on the ice catching fish just listening to things in this video provides awesome info. I bought my new Elliot rod for dead stick based on your video and I smashed them the other day. I watched your tip up videos on how to set them up and my buddy who has never caught anything on tip ups brought up a 28 inch northern (Not huge and wrong species we wanted but still cool to see).
On the ice or not on the ice your videos with educational stuff like this is always wanted. Keep it up.
He made a contour video a year or so I believe.
@@vikingslayer34 Right on thanks! Has he done one on how to read fish surveys the DNR puts out at all? I vaguely remember he did but cant find it.
Watching this looking at my three rods just thinking wow I need to upgrade got a 24" ht iceblues rod a 24" frabill and 26" frabill ice hunter signature series lol
Love. The. Channel is. There. Any. Way. You. Could put the. Description of the. Elliot rods in the video. Thanks
I just got a tickle rod and a ghost reel hoping it works for what I was wanting.
Hi Tom! My 9 year old son loves learning all things fishing from your videos! He is curious to know - What is your favorite spoon rod for ice fishing?
Tell him thanks for watching! My favorite is a Elliot Rods Evolution 42m
@@TomBoley hi tom what is your favorite crappie rod for hyper rattles and tungsten jigs?
Cant beat a 15-20 dollar dock runner or dock demon, 30-36 in long mini spinning rod.
Tom, How often do you change out old line on your ice fishing set ups.. I bought two new beaver dam rods you recommended to different lengths to see if I want to get into the long rod game but I found I’m farther from my ducer so getting more fish wrapped in the ducer cord easy fix but not ready to buy all new 44” rods plus expensive when the old ones work fine for now but good info for the guys want to start adding to the rod collection
I got a mixed bag of favorite rods already hard to replace the memories of out fishing your buddy for a longer rod just my thoughts 💭
Put a leader on all size rods ?
If I were to have two walleye rods it would have to be my 35' rogue and my 30 inch gold digger from JT
Tom new to northern wi just curious if there is a decent lake near ladysmith that produces decent walleye want my son to get into them thanks great videos man keep it up
Dairyland flowage
I just bought the eliot 42" noodle rod, how do I attach my reel to it?
NFQ??
Nice
I am one of those who actually IS interested in the fishery aspects... why is the fish population so low at 1.1 to 1.2 fish per acre? Is this due to low natural reproduction - minimal spawning habitat? Or is it a stocked fishery and the stocking rates are low? Or some other reason? Thanks.
My guess fishing pressure
What is the 2nd rod he shows?
Still have a minnow head on the spoon lol.
Are Elliot rods made in the USA, couldn't find any info on the website?
Minnesota
Any TB video is fine with Me
Tom , I like a really good feel rod I don’t really care for Sight rods , I really want to feel the fish breathe on it, what is your best recommendation for the best all around Feel rod??
How are you attaching reels to your rods?
Electrical tape
Hockey tape
What part of Wisconsin are you from and where are you ice fishing
How do you protect these rods? Rod tube or case
Do they come with the things to hold the reel on the cork?or do you have to buy those separately?
What did you use to hold your reels on on these rods?
What’s a good “cheap” ice lake trout rod and reel set up? Trying to find one is a bit difficult
Cause cheap good don't go together no such thing as a cheap good rod just spend the extra little money for a good rod believe me you will be happy you did
Define cheap. You want a heavy action rod and a solid reel with a good drag. The piscifun 1000 is a decent reel for 60 bucks. Another 40-60 on a rod and you got a setup for 120 bucks. If you’re looking cheaper than that, go to Walmart and get a beaver dam tip up for 40 bucks or even worse, a prepackaged rod/reel combo that is too soft for a big laker.
Frostbite Fishing rods might be worth looking at
What rod case are you using to carry these longer rods?
I use a double Plano guide series spinning rod tube. Works good, i just sling it over my shoulder. But I only have 2 Elliot evolution rods. I think 2B makes a longer case as well that holds more.
Second that... What are you using?
I just bought the Otter 48 Deep… perfect fit… not heavy for what I was thinking was going to be … built solid. Liking it a lot
A list of the rods would be helpful.
Its the whole evolution series of elliot rods
@@pb-ki3nx thanks
No prob
@@pb-ki3nx so is the second rod the 44UL , he wasn’t clear on that one . Heard him say 42” then 44”. Curious as I already have the model and the 44L. Thanks
I mainly fish 5mm tungsten and small 1/16-1/8 spoons, #3-4 ripping raps and jigging raps. Which rod would you recommend? 44UL or 44L? Or does a guy get both?
I have both but love the 44L for jigging small lures such as 5mm tungsten jigs, small spoons, and the #2 #3 raps. The 44UL is a glass rod so it is not as sensitive as the 44L. I use that mostly as a dead stick with live bait.
@@nickbreit438 hey I appreciate the input!
Is it true that you need a swivel above your spoon for line twist?
Yes it makes a huge difference in line twist. I use a swivel above my panfish jigs too.
@@lukem2492 I use swivels too above all my spoons and jigs. I just never knew if they helped you catch more fidh
One more time for the guys in the back, what does 'NFQ' stand for?!
IM A VERY HARDCORE ANGLER & AM JUST GETTING INTO ICE FISHING THE PNW.
WELL,... ADD ANOTHER $1,000 MINIMUM TO MY RODS & REELS! THERE IS NO SINGLE ROD THAT DOES IT ALL!