@@ZZmeyka и правильно делает, потому что знает, что в случае "серьёзной семейной ссоры" Тав может его прикончить, так, как прикончил Казадор своего мастера. Удивляюсь, почему многие негодуют по этому поводу
@@Nirraart я не негодую, скорее делаю выводы. А то мне тут некоторые пытались доказать, что вознесшийся вампир все еще "любит" тав.. ну ну XD Я бы на месте Астариона вообще бы всех сопартийцев обратила бы. Эти "люди" разносили всех, кто вставал у них на пути. Нельзя такими кадрами разбрасываться.. Ничего личного, только бизнес )))
@@ZZmeykaиз того, что мне всё-таки довелось видеть, делаю выводы: Тав для для вознесенного Астариона важна/важен, а вот можно ли это назвать любовью? Одержимостью скорее всего. Что там с чувствами и положительными/отрицательными качествами после вознесения происходит? Удваиваются-утраиваются и приобретают (ещё)более мрачный окрас? Ну так вот, если до вознесения Аст испытывал к Тав некие чувства/любовь, то сейчас он будет Тав одержим. Не знаю, осмелюсь предположить, что да, вознесённый Астарион "любит" Тав только в весьма извращённой, собственнической форме. Цветочков и конфет не ждите, хотя, если, по его словам, Тав его попросит он всем готов её обеспечить 😅 А что касается сопартийцев, думаю, да - надо всех под своё крыло.
Yeah, they need to make kisses with Astarion a LOT longer and more passionate. Or enable you to choose between a kiss and a peck. Also the hug needs to be a permanent option and a lot longer too.
Well, if you succeed the insight check when he turns you, you discover that he thinks of you as degrading yourself by choosing to be his spawn. So, to some degree, he probably thinks you're into being lovingly talked down to.
@@dmsviola1 В одном из первых диалогов Астарион четко говорит : если просто укусили - отродье, если укусили и дали своей крови - то полноценный вампир. Так почему Тав отродье, если кровь Астариона она получила (по его словам). Не понимаю.
А что, минуточку! Можно отпить его крови? Я просто не делаю его полноценным вампиром (ага, хрен ему, а не вознесение, наделает делов, потом разбирайся 😂), поэтому думала до сего момента, что максимум - он укусит Тав и сделает отродьем. И все.
I didn’t even know this until I saw someone else mention this and started my second character. It’s so cute for the taller races, the whole this time he kisses you. My first character was a gnome, so I didn’t even know that. They ask and he always comes down to kiss them lol. Difference just being the asking then.
I REALLY loved that detail, especially with his story line it really shows he's more comfortable with you, and has processed some trauma, and it's especially meaningful bc he says he doesn't know how to be in a relationship, but in the end he finally pursues you!
Yes! I was looking for that comment. This absolutely does not count as "the last kiss before we might face the end of the world". And what about "making it count"?
Ascended Astarion is hotter, but the fact that his personality changed overnight makes me uncomfortable. I much prefer Astarion spawn's sweet and humorous way, it's his true personality.
There are moments when he acts the way he used to. It seems like he may be trying to act more regal to feel more like he fits the title of "vampire lord" imo since based on what Raphael says about the ascended vamp, he should still have his normal human emotions
@@viktoriahelgeland7324Exactly, he is just himself after the ascension Astarion never became a "true vampire" he didn't drink Cazador's blood, he is now a "living vampire" can do all that what mortals can, and has all the emotions, with the benefit of having all the powers that a true vampire has, Raphael explain this in detail. Denying him this is evil and selfish, also why are people suprised at how his acting Astarion never was a good person. The only person he ever cares for is romanced Tav.
@@mellowgray8589nah. Hardly disagree. I mean yes he does have his chaotic evil personality but there are more than a few scenes where you see that he cares for the Group. Heck sometimes he even cares for the quest npcs in act 2 and 3. Read into his tone and expression and not just the things he says. F'course he'll never be a twilight character which he defenitly doesnt need to be lmao- but he's not an evil/corrupted only character as well.
I just want to say, keeping Astarion as a spawn doesn't doom him to a life in darkness. In D&D 5e (which is the edition the game is based off) there's actually quite a number of ways vampires can walk in the sun. Wish, items of protection from radiance damage, taking on a pact with a god for literally saving BG and asking for immunity to radiance damage, all being just some. The epilogue that was just released shows a truly happy and optimistic Astarion (if you have gone down the route of supporting him, loving him etc) and he seems quite hopeful that he'll be able to sort it out. But he's also realised that being in the sun is only a bonus, not his main source of joy.
На самом деле такие поцелуи в игре разочаровывают, прям не верится, что это последний перед битвой. Две секунды и всё, даже в Драгон Эйдж Ориджин было лучше.
Putting "its the same" in the upper left IMMEDIATELY so I technically don't have to watch your whole vid is SO BASED. I watched the whole thing anyway.
"good" Astarion kiss : "I never want to stop doing that" "evil"Astarion kiss: - Doesn't worry about not being able to do that - because he knows for sure that he has you "forever", so what else is there to say, other than you taste sweet :p ..lol
"Good route" is whatever is works for you. Everyone claims that "good" route is refuse to ascend him, when in the final scene he lierally starts to burn in the sun and run away in pain, forced to live in shadow and misery all his immortal life - is this good? Bad route is him getting more possessive and "evil" but becoming a "living vampire" that no is no longer need to fear sun, who will "enjoy the luxuries of the living", "arousal and appetites of a man will return to him", as Rafael says, it is essentially a new evolution branch for vampires - is this bad? What I'm saying - there is no black and white, good and bad in this scenario.
@@Deadpan_Snarker Yeah I get that, though I also heard that his ascension leaves him without the remainder of his humanity, but it was more just to know in this context of the video lol
@@Deadpan_Snarker Ascention is bad because instead of breaking the cycle and healing he repeats it. Astarion pretty much becomes just like Cazador and will just end up making more Astarions. He can never be happy like that. He's also straight up abusive to Tav, not allowing them to break up with him at the end of the game, and saying that he only won't use his ability to control spawn-Tav because he won't need to since they'll be obedient anyway. I actually find the spawn ending very optimistic. I don't like the running away from the sun being used as something humorous, but the end conversation is incredibly sweet, especially with the starting to trust that Tav will always be there for him bit, and it really feels like he is on the road to healing and like he has an actual shot at real happiness.
Cmon maaaan that's barely a peck! Make it count my ass, even dragon age let you get a proper lil smooch in, not this bird tap. Also makes me sad how abruptly tav ends the hug between them RIGHT as astarion is embracing it. His shock of her just being like YEP YER DONE is what most of us feel too... HUG HIM LONGER!
he gives you a little of his blood to let you walk in the sun and all that, with a interaction where he says nothings changed other than you gaining some vampire powers
Спасибо за видео. У меня ужасно горит жопа, потому что в третьем акте Астарион почему-то решил послать меня при высоком уровне одобрения. Чаво уж сказать, я его отправила на верную смерть к Казадору и билась уже с возвышенным, приблизительно так меня это выбесило. Причем я не понимаю, что ему не понравилось. И сейчас, оказывается, даже нормального прощального поцелуя не было бы? Ну все, я вся разочарование, съем червячков и буду любить императора, вместе мир завоюем. Не могу словами описать весь гнев, у меня Тав после этого из хаотично доброго персонажа стала хаотично злым👺 Сердце ото мне разбили, вампира не выдали. Ррррр
@@Nirraart В третьем акте при разговоре в лагере есть вариант спросить "мы так ни разу и не спали с того раза". На что последуют довольно обидные реплики про то, что это был просто секс по приколу, и вообще, я сама себе всё надумала. У меня были все сцены романтические с ним первого и второго актов. Сцена после празднования тифлингов - чек Помощь с рассмотрением шрамов - чек Комплименты на сцене с рассматриванием себя в зеркале - чек Потом чёт сдулось всё, что сильно меня разочаровало. Паралельно ни с кем отношения не вела Я вся ярость, могла бы заромансить Гейла или Вилла, они прям просились
@@Nirraart Честно говоря, после этого я захотела его вывернуть сама наизнанку. Так и поступила. Ещё никогда отношения в видеоиграх не поджигали во мне варварский рейдж
@@StarMasterUA по-моему, это случается, когда вы сцену в лагере перед самой встречей с Арай(дроу в лунных башнях) пропускаете, либо пропускаете сон в лагере после встречи с Арай.
No dialogue. "Why not?" - 1: Oversight on Larians part. 2: MAYBE - you are already a full vampire, but because he is Ascendant - he will always be able to control you, you will never become an Ascendant, no matter how many times you bite him.
-Hello, my sweet little spawn.
OMG :D
и тем не менее он не делает тава равным себе ( хотя бы вампиром), оставляет подконтрольным отродьем.
@@ZZmeyka и правильно делает, потому что знает, что в случае "серьёзной семейной ссоры" Тав может его прикончить, так, как прикончил Казадор своего мастера.
Удивляюсь, почему многие негодуют по этому поводу
@@Nirraart я не негодую, скорее делаю выводы. А то мне тут некоторые пытались доказать, что вознесшийся вампир все еще "любит" тав.. ну ну XD Я бы на месте Астариона вообще бы всех сопартийцев обратила бы. Эти "люди" разносили всех, кто вставал у них на пути. Нельзя такими кадрами разбрасываться.. Ничего личного, только бизнес )))
@@ZZmeykaиз того, что мне всё-таки довелось видеть, делаю выводы: Тав для для вознесенного Астариона важна/важен, а вот можно ли это назвать любовью? Одержимостью скорее всего. Что там с чувствами и положительными/отрицательными качествами после вознесения происходит? Удваиваются-утраиваются и приобретают (ещё)более мрачный окрас? Ну так вот, если до вознесения Аст испытывал к Тав некие чувства/любовь, то сейчас он будет Тав одержим. Не знаю, осмелюсь предположить, что да, вознесённый Астарион "любит" Тав только в весьма извращённой, собственнической форме. Цветочков и конфет не ждите, хотя, если, по его словам, Тав его попросит он всем готов её обеспечить 😅 А что касается сопартийцев, думаю, да - надо всех под своё крыло.
@@Nirraart это абьюзивные отношения.
Yeah, they need to make kisses with Astarion a LOT longer and more passionate. Or enable you to choose between a kiss and a peck. Also the hug needs to be a permanent option and a lot longer too.
Agreed!
Yes to all of that.
this
Yes!!
YEEESSS 😊
The fact that we can't be sappy and tell our love interest that we love them at the very end IS INSANEEE
Crazy how he hated being reminded he was a spawn, and now he uses it as a pet name for you
Well, if you succeed the insight check when he turns you, you discover that he thinks of you as degrading yourself by choosing to be his spawn. So, to some degree, he probably thinks you're into being lovingly talked down to.
@@dmsviola1 В одном из первых диалогов Астарион четко говорит : если просто укусили - отродье, если укусили и дали своей крови - то полноценный вампир. Так почему Тав отродье, если кровь Астариона она получила (по его словам). Не понимаю.
@@АнастасияЧура-д7квидимо, нужно больше одной капли
А что, минуточку! Можно отпить его крови? Я просто не делаю его полноценным вампиром (ага, хрен ему, а не вознесение, наделает делов, потом разбирайся 😂), поэтому думала до сего момента, что максимум - он укусит Тав и сделает отродьем. И все.
@@bhkillus ну нам не показывают, но Аст говорит, что дает нам одну каплю крови
"Better make it count"
-is barely a peck
they updated itttt 😫😫😫
I do like that after the whole game of approaching him for a kiss, he approaches you for this one!
Yes! Now we get watch him "saunter over"🫠
I didn’t even know this until I saw someone else mention this and started my second character. It’s so cute for the taller races, the whole this time he kisses you.
My first character was a gnome, so I didn’t even know that. They ask and he always comes down to kiss them lol. Difference just being the asking then.
Omg yes! That was my first thought too when I played it! I was so happy, what a perfect change for a last kiss!
Jep, when I saw he coming to me I was stunned, I was so happy.
I REALLY loved that detail, especially with his story line it really shows he's more comfortable with you, and has processed some trauma, and it's especially meaningful bc he says he doesn't know how to be in a relationship, but in the end he finally pursues you!
i like how this is the only time where astarion approaches YOU instead of you approaching him for the kiss
They need to make the kisses more passionate
In a moment like that, yes absolutely 100% yes
Yes! I was looking for that comment. This absolutely does not count as "the last kiss before we might face the end of the world". And what about "making it count"?
Ascended Astarion is hotter, but the fact that his personality changed overnight makes me uncomfortable. I much prefer Astarion spawn's sweet and humorous way, it's his true personality.
They both are awesome, each in his own way.
There are moments when he acts the way he used to. It seems like he may be trying to act more regal to feel more like he fits the title of "vampire lord" imo since based on what Raphael says about the ascended vamp, he should still have his normal human emotions
@@viktoriahelgeland7324Exactly, he is just himself after the ascension Astarion never became a "true vampire" he didn't drink Cazador's blood, he is now a "living vampire" can do all that what mortals can, and has all the emotions, with the benefit of having all the powers that a true vampire has, Raphael explain this in detail. Denying him this is evil and selfish, also why are people suprised at how his acting Astarion never was a good person. The only person he ever cares for is romanced Tav.
Same. I mean I get the point he's acended and evil but I love his teasing in a humerous kind of way personality. :(
@@mellowgray8589nah. Hardly disagree. I mean yes he does have his chaotic evil personality but there are more than a few scenes where you see that he cares for the Group. Heck sometimes he even cares for the quest npcs in act 2 and 3. Read into his tone and expression and not just the things he says.
F'course he'll never be a twilight character which he defenitly doesnt need to be lmao- but he's not an evil/corrupted only character as well.
I just want to say, keeping Astarion as a spawn doesn't doom him to a life in darkness. In D&D 5e (which is the edition the game is based off) there's actually quite a number of ways vampires can walk in the sun. Wish, items of protection from radiance damage, taking on a pact with a god for literally saving BG and asking for immunity to radiance damage, all being just some.
The epilogue that was just released shows a truly happy and optimistic Astarion (if you have gone down the route of supporting him, loving him etc) and he seems quite hopeful that he'll be able to sort it out. But he's also realised that being in the sun is only a bonus, not his main source of joy.
Where can I read more about this? I want to explore options for my story 😊
Just one more reason to ascend Gale to godhood. Now he owes you a favor. =P
Bit pathetic for making the most of a kiss...
Как же пожадничали Ларианы на поцелуях🤧Они должны быть дольше, а уж тем более - перед битвой, чтоб прям в дёсна🤣
Ну хотя бы перед битвой чтоль😅
What was that retirement home kiss???
HAHAHAHA
На самом деле такие поцелуи в игре разочаровывают, прям не верится, что это последний перед битвой. Две секунды и всё, даже в Драгон Эйдж Ориджин было лучше.
Putting "its the same" in the upper left IMMEDIATELY so I technically don't have to watch your whole vid is SO BASED.
I watched the whole thing anyway.
"good" Astarion kiss : "I never want to stop doing that"
"evil"Astarion kiss: - Doesn't worry about not being able to do that - because he knows for sure that he has you "forever", so what else is there to say, other than you taste sweet :p ..lol
Their outfits are incredible!
Thank you! I kove it too 😭
You only get a friggen peck for the end of the world kiss? lol Also is good the non ascended Astarion?
Yeah, good route is non-ascended. Bad route is ascended.
"Good route" is whatever is works for you. Everyone claims that "good" route is refuse to ascend him, when in the final scene he lierally starts to burn in the sun and run away in pain, forced to live in shadow and misery all his immortal life - is this good? Bad route is him getting more possessive and "evil" but becoming a "living vampire" that no is no longer need to fear sun, who will "enjoy the luxuries of the living", "arousal and appetites of a man will return to him", as Rafael says, it is essentially a new evolution branch for vampires - is this bad?
What I'm saying - there is no black and white, good and bad in this scenario.
not the above comment 😬 anyways.... Good route is non-Ascended and Bad route is Ascended
@@Deadpan_Snarker Yeah I get that, though I also heard that his ascension leaves him without the remainder of his humanity, but it was more just to know in this context of the video lol
@@Deadpan_Snarker Ascention is bad because instead of breaking the cycle and healing he repeats it. Astarion pretty much becomes just like Cazador and will just end up making more Astarions. He can never be happy like that. He's also straight up abusive to Tav, not allowing them to break up with him at the end of the game, and saying that he only won't use his ability to control spawn-Tav because he won't need to since they'll be obedient anyway.
I actually find the spawn ending very optimistic. I don't like the running away from the sun being used as something humorous, but the end conversation is incredibly sweet, especially with the starting to trust that Tav will always be there for him bit, and it really feels like he is on the road to healing and like he has an actual shot at real happiness.
Cmon maaaan that's barely a peck! Make it count my ass, even dragon age let you get a proper lil smooch in, not this bird tap. Also makes me sad how abruptly tav ends the hug between them RIGHT as astarion is embracing it. His shock of her just being like YEP YER DONE is what most of us feel too... HUG HIM LONGER!
acsended Astarion does seem hotter but he seems somewhat distant? idk
Yes and he actually explains why
@@Nirraartthe part where you read his thoughts and he thinks you're dfgrading yourself by being a spawn?
That is the most awkward looking game kiss I’ve ever seen.🧐
What armor and dyes are you using on Asterion? Love the look and the video!
For both used Studded Leather Armour +2,
for Good Astarion - Sinful Red on Bone White dye, for Evil Astarion - Black and Furnace Red dye
"Then we better make it count" 😏 *light peck* where is the passion 😩
Could you please upload what happens in the pier if you're a spawn? I'm wondering if Tav starts sizzling in the sunlight like "good" Astarion does.
he gives you a little of his blood to let you walk in the sun and all that, with a interaction where he says nothings changed other than you gaining some vampire powers
All I want to know is why can't we have a longer kiss goodbye?😢
1:43 ❤️🔥❤️🔥I can’t❤️🔥❤️🔥
0:34 amen to that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Спасибо за видео. У меня ужасно горит жопа, потому что в третьем акте Астарион почему-то решил послать меня при высоком уровне одобрения. Чаво уж сказать, я его отправила на верную смерть к Казадору и билась уже с возвышенным, приблизительно так меня это выбесило.
Причем я не понимаю, что ему не понравилось. И сейчас, оказывается, даже нормального прощального поцелуя не было бы? Ну все, я вся разочарование, съем червячков и буду любить императора, вместе мир завоюем.
Не могу словами описать весь гнев, у меня Тав после этого из хаотично доброго персонажа стала хаотично злым👺 Сердце ото мне разбили, вампира не выдали. Ррррр
После какой конкретно сцены? Не после обращения?
@@Nirraart В третьем акте при разговоре в лагере есть вариант спросить "мы так ни разу и не спали с того раза". На что последуют довольно обидные реплики про то, что это был просто секс по приколу, и вообще, я сама себе всё надумала. У меня были все сцены романтические с ним первого и второго актов.
Сцена после празднования тифлингов - чек
Помощь с рассмотрением шрамов - чек
Комплименты на сцене с рассматриванием себя в зеркале - чек
Потом чёт сдулось всё, что сильно меня разочаровало. Паралельно ни с кем отношения не вела
Я вся ярость, могла бы заромансить Гейла или Вилла, они прям просились
@@Nirraart Честно говоря, после этого я захотела его вывернуть сама наизнанку. Так и поступила. Ещё никогда отношения в видеоиграх не поджигали во мне варварский рейдж
@@StarMasterUA по-моему, это случается, когда вы сцену в лагере перед самой встречей с Арай(дроу в лунных башнях) пропускаете, либо пропускаете сон в лагере после встречи с Арай.
@@StarMasterUA Была с цена, где он признаётся, что он намеренно вас соблазнял, но в вас влюбился, даже если это не входило в его планы?
what's the armor you're using for your character? it looks great!
Armour of Moonbasking
Has anyone used Bite on astarion after he makes you his spawn? does it trigger something about becoming a full vampire? if not...why?
No dialogue.
"Why not?" -
1: Oversight on Larians part.
2: MAYBE - you are already a full vampire, but because he is Ascendant - he will always be able to control you, you will never become an Ascendant, no matter how many times you bite him.
What’s the armor Astarion is wearing, it’s so coollll
Nice. What kind of armor is she wearing?
Armour of Moonbasking
What mission triggers this scene?
What outfit is Astarion wearing?
how in the 9 hells did you get that armor. I NEED IT
For my druid you mean?
no for astarion it looks amazing@@Nirraart
You can get it in the Act 3. Find any armor trader in the Baldur's gate
And dye it with the Black and Furnace Red dye
TYSM@@Nirraart
UwU 🥰