the masculine urge to humiliate and control women
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2023
- what are your thoughts on the keke palmer usher situation? should I make a video about therapy speak and the jonah hill situation?
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you don't know a man until you've seen him angry.
this
or when you tell him ‘no’
Can't you say the same for women?
@@emilyrogue8251u need to go back to school. Women are and can be violent when they want u love to play victim but at the the same time act like ur strong and independent ur the type to expect a man to open the door 4 u because he’s a “man” but then act like u don’t need to do anything for him
@@morganyu812If you speak about toxicity yes, but not wild violence like with men.
“Don’t you think it will affect her son, to have his mother humiliated online?” fucking thank you when men bring these things up it is only about their fear of losing control over their partner, they’re not actually thinking about the well-being of the partner or the people they claim they’re trying to protect. i always love hearing u talk about stuff ty ty i personally would love to hear an expansion on weaponizing therapy speak
Same thing I thought. This could’ve been addressed in private as keke is a private person. But she deserves to feel beautiful especially after she gave birth.
Both can be true.
I tapped the Like so quick after hearing her say that! ❤
@@MegaTheman25 if it was both he wouldn't have posted Keke in a similar light online. This is pretty much only about his ego and control.
I empathized with him until I found out he did the same. He lost whatever moral ground he had to stand on when he did that.
These dudes care more about what their friends think of them than they do their partner. Shaming her was to save face.
All these men talking bout traditional values, but wont commit to a woman, won't build a house with his bare hands, won't go overseas to war and die... like omg stop
Right. Meanwhile in this relationship keke is playing both roles, provider and caretaker. Shaking my damn head, this is the modern relationship
@@manderly109 it’s the modern relationship? Than why do most woman refuse to “settle” for a man who makes less ?
@@krypt6065the woman LITERALLY TALKS ABOUT this in her video... Wtach the video first, men often don't want to date rich women. They are intimidated by them.
@@thesevenkingswelove9554I saw her take an unfortunately I don't buy her reasoning. She says it's because most men who date a woman more financially successful than them get insecure.
@@krypt6065there aren't enough to go around, and the ones around know they can have a dummy 12 yrs younger who live being trapped because they "choose" family instead of career. Jonah Hill tried it and she picked herself and her surfboard and she's better off for it
What bothered me most was the idea that because Keke Palmer is a mother she should cover up. That her body is then a product of her baby and baby daddy and a representation of her family and not just her own. That’s fucking dumb. Her body is just her body. It doesn’t belong to anyone else but her.
Be a parent is also....lowkey....super sexual anyway.
Like having biological children, we know someone was busting it down.
I always kind of found it ironic that after having bio children the person is suddenly expected to be prudish.
Bio children is literally physical evidence that someone is having an orgasm.
And this is exactly why so many young women have a strained relationship with the idea of motherhood- the erasure of their identity that tends to come with it.
As a mother to two children, yeah after you have them your body, your time and your life is no longer your own. It’s now devoted to the little humans you have to grow and raise. So yah actually the way we decide to model being a woman is exactly what you teach your children. No it’s not always one to one but acting as a single childless person (mother or father) when being a parent usually has a negative effect on the children whether resolved or unresolved as an adult. If y’all wana do whatever y’all wana do then people should stay single and childless because it’s a sacrifice you kind gotta be willing to make.
@@nonnieJ94 so a mother can’t dress hot ? Lol. She’s an adult
@@manderly109girl shut up you know what they mean
Feeling insecure is only human. Feeling insecure is ok. What is not okay is going on a public platform to humiliate your partner and showcase what a misogynistic little man you truly are. However, at least Keke knows what she’s dealing with, and can now act accordingly.
Didn’t keke publicly embarrass him first?? If the roles were reversed a Nikki Minaj or Cardi B grind on her bd and and he flirted backed it would be a different situation
@@x8vior lmfaoooo so u rly think usher(!!!) is wants to get down with Keke and she is somehow embarrassing him 😭💀💀💀💀 y'all males stay idiot moronic and lewsers
@@x8viornah
@@Lima_Lima_LimaYes, lol.
But it's okay for her to publicly humiliate him by griding on another man in public?
the fact that a gender’s whole foundation is to ensure that any other gender is unable to surpass them in any shape and form has always been weird to me. i dont know what enabled that but whatever it is, it really got these men at a chokehold for centuries
The patriarchy enabled that.
i thought u said cuckold 😭
boys rule, girls drool, boys go college to get more knowledge and girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider. This is a mans world and don't you forget it. -Ice Cube
@@growing.flowers Lmao. That too, though. 😂
@@luishp3 without the *patriarchy* u wont have a house or anything
Boundaries are not meant to control the way your partner dresses, acts or who they speak to. They are meant to be a way for partners to say “hey, this hurts me and I would prefer if you could avoid this thing”. They aren’t an excuse to police women’s bodies or who they speak to. That’s just controlling and messed up. They also aren’t like rules. You can’t enforce them blindly like a dress code.
Men really out here trying to say that their insecurity is their partners problem calling shit like this a moral thing or a boundary. 😂
Seriously! A boundary is not an ultimatum. Boundaries don't prevent someone from merely speaking to someone else. Boundaries are "we've talked about how it's hurtful when you say/do x to me before, I've asked you to stop, and you aren't. If you continue to habitually act in x way towards me, I will remove myself from the situation in y way."
Like, I've had to tell family members that if they are going to berate me over the phone, I will hang up on them and will be happy to talk later when they are willing to speak kindly.
OH GOSH THISSSSSSSSSSS
Unfortunately, multiple religions/religious institutions made it socially and legally acceptable to police women for anything they go, globally. So it’s not surprising that people think boundaries = rules = control
This is the best comment
Yes they are, there literally a way to tell your partner, I'm not okay with this action. When enter into a relationship you voluntarily choose to put controls on each other.
i'll never understand how men think everything women do is for men like??
They view the world only from a man’s perspective, and since we live in a patriarchal society that reinforces that on the daily and tells them everything IS actually only for them and the way they’re behaving is “correct” and “masculine”, it kind of just reinforces that shitty worldview and just reinforces their misogynistic behavior I’m afraid. 😭
And then when women tell them they’re wrong, and not everything we do is for them, they laugh and find it absurd because pretty much everything has been a man’s world for them that majority has only catered to them, and it only confirms and validates their warped worldview. It’s fucked up, and just becomes a viscous self fulfilling cycle. I find it’s not worth your time trying to convince someone like that. Let them find out how wrong they are over time lol 😂
I think dressing in a scandalous fashion is definitely for the benefit of Usher. You denying that is downright gaslighting.
@@morganyu812 Why would you assume that?
@@Paula-zt9ol Because it is. She without a doubt did in fact dress like that to impress Usher.
If she wants to do that then fine. But don't pretend that she all of sudden was dressing in a provocative way out of the blue because she just "felt like it".
@@morganyu812 But really that is just your interpretation of the situation/and an assumption on your end. You don’t know Keke Palmer personally, nor are you in her brain to know what her thought process was. And neither do I, for that matter. But it seems like your take on this is perhaps Influenced/biased by your own perspective and worldview on why women dress up.
I’m a straight woman and many times have dressed in a way that other people might have seen as provocative or attention getting (shorter dress/skirt, heavy makeup, etc.) just to meet up with my girlfriends to get brunch, or have a day at the beach, etc. No men even present. And it was because dressing in that made me feel cute in general, or I thought the outfit looked good on me. It was for me to feel confident in how I look and was presenting, and make me feel good about myself internally, for my own self confidence. The way a man dressed in a really nice suit might feel, or even his favorite sports jersey. It’s just men aren’t sexualized in the same way women are.
I think if you assume women only dress in a way that men also happen to find attractive, that means they are dressing that way FOR men is a mistake, and a misinterpretation. Men may also be attracted to women who dress in revealing outfits, but that doesn’t mean women dress that way for them. Sometimes they do, but in majority of cases they do not. In fact in a lot of instances the attention dressing like that gets you from men isn’t positive at all, and is often times undesired/unwanted advancements, and is not something women are seeming out. It is something we are trying actively to avoid. Keke has a child and whole other life with Darius already. To assume she was trying to throw it all away to be with Usher, who is also in his own relationship…all over what, an outfit she was wearing? It’s just highly presumptuous and such a leap to conclusions that doesn’t even really make sense. And it just really seems like a highly misinformed presumption based on a projected worldview of some sorts. But idk, that’s just my take. 🤷🏻♀️
IMO I felt he should've kept it off social media and talk to her about it in private if he felt some type of way about it
Tossing the phone to the bed out of frustration would have saved him.
Yes privately. I can understand that. I don’t get why he did that. I know that was a low blow for her. But they can work it out,if they can get past this.
Ikr!!! Would a text not have sufficed ?!
@@NadiaPinkbut wasn't the disrespect public? She grinded on usher. So that's when people started tweeting him.
@@NadiaPink lmao. You're pretending as if attending an usher concert was an acting job. Nah. She knew what she did. If the roles were reversed they would drag the guy. Especially if it's Keke palmer
I don't really think Keke Palmer's outfit was really all that crazy. Seems like he was just being insecure.
Right like she was going out to a concert… I think this was a very normal thing for her to wear. It’s a beautiful outfit!
Idk it seemed pretty "unique" to me. I wouldn't expect to see that outfit in a grocery store, a children's playground, or a sit down restaurant. "Normal" places. This is my first video on this channel tho, and I'm probably not the target, hoping to broaden my perspectives on things tho.
I'd never let my momma, sister, or daughters out the house in something like that. Some men are dumb and lack impulse control, don't attract sexual attention to yourself, that's my thought. Can y'all enlighten me on how this is fun?
@@Adhanks91 the outfit she was wearing was not inappropriate for the environment she was in. She was having a night out! Seems like she was with some girlfriends too and ladies love to look glam when they go out. No way she’d wear this to a grocery store haha. I think madisyn was trying to make a point against your last comment like. It’s not really your place to dictate what a woman wears. You can tell her all you want but at the end of the day. If she wants to wear a glamorous outfit out with her friends like that’s her choice and you as her partner need to respect that or not be in a relationship with someone who’s choices don’t align with your beliefs. It’s really not anyone else’s business and the bf in this situation publicly shamed her when this probably should’ve been handled one on one.
@@thescarediest She leaked a private convo in this case
He also posted her nudes himself, so it clearly wasn't about the outfit.
Apparently it’s news to *some* men that you do not cease to be a person once you become a mom.
Another mom for the streets.
Women who think it's OK to slo ber all over other men when you're already in a relationship deserve to be alone and deserve no respect because you cant even respect yourselves so why should anyone else. And if you're a mother, your child with be embarrassed and ashamed of you.
@@racheljames7 And disappointingly, some women as well.
@@racheljames7no they would be ashamed of their father for treating their mother like this
@@Jeremy-wp4yhYet funny how most homeless people are MEN
“I resent the idea that she’s doing this for OTHER people” *snaps* KEKE is beautiful and deserves to feel confident within herself
I would love to hear your perspective on the weaponization of therapy, couple therapy, and use of “therapy words”
❤
it really is disheartening to see how ready they are to humiliate and subjugate the most important women in their lives
Fr and its the men that if they leave their woman their on the street 😂
So true. It's insane how they all are obsessed with being traditional yet have no problem with degrading and publicly defaming their own partners. Wtf is traditional about basically calling the woman who had ur child a sl*t
not flirting with other men doesnt make you subjugated
That’s because they don’t value women.
@@samiyoddinmohammed1202shut up
It’s nothing wrong with having standards, but you have to also follow those standards. I don’t know why he thought that didn’t apply to him💀
Does he dress in a very scandalous way?
@@morganyu812 He got mad at Keke for wearing revealing clothes and showing her body, but he has no problem showing off her body on the internet. It’s also stupid to get into a relationship with someone based on who they could be. He knew she dressed revealing and still decided to date her (only to try changing her and controlling her). Why not go after a modest woman who shares your values instead of trying to change a grown ass woman???
@@canaidavis8573 Her comment is kind of implying that he doesn't also follow his own standards. Now if you say the twerking video than yeah
@@morganyu812He literally has a shirtless pic of himself in only boxers on IG. He's a fucking hypocrite. Besides having standards it's not about you. It is about what actions from a potential partner you are comfortable with
@@morganyu812he was naked on instagram talking about "dad bod" showing off his abs. so yeah he is very hypocritical
This is what happens when you settle for less Ladies.....
To be honest, people tell me that I may be a misandrist or die alone, because I am single with standards...
In reality, I am being cautious, because many people can be toxic these days.
Any guy probably would have done this but a man of means that actually cared would have called and not done it on social media. That’s why I believe he was looking for attention
Settle for less? What does that even means? Yall make no sense.
@@afrosamourai400 A man that doesn’t commit fully I’m guessing in this case and doesn’t pick up a phone to call when you have issues
What are you saying? Jonah hill is rich and he did the same to his girlfriend.
insecure people want you to be insecure with them
Misery loves company
This is a good quote, I’m going to have to remember this one 🙏🏻
Insecure men will always stay mad that they can't literally control every aspect of "their woman". He's literally a nobody and they aren't married. He really thought he did something by showing his ass. 😂 Hopefully Keke Palmer leaves his ass and sues him for defamation. Gurrrl let him catch a case so you can collect some coins.
As a sidenote - Madysyn is on point with her analysis about cis-hetero gender roles for men and how their ego derives value/approval from being "the provider", to apoint where if "their woman" is making more money he somehow has devalued himself and his own "masculinity". Like damn, can these men just not be happy that their boo can buy shit for them. They really out here trying to create problems out of nothing. Shaming your woman will do nothing but drive a huge wedge of resentment/volatility into your relationship, and for what exactly?! You ain't getting no social approval for being an asshole to your lover. Also, is the short lived ego-trip from trying to embarrass her really worth it?
I’m still dying over the fact that he claims to be a traditional man yet hasn’t proposed to her and calls her out on Twitter like an emotional loser😭😭
Not to mention he doesn't even support financially that much anyway like u can't say shit LMAO
@@AUGHHHHHBBGand how would you know that? You don’t even know them your damnself
As everything for men, it would be easier if we didn't have to think about what other MEN have to say.
Think about it, he probably wouldn't care if there wasn't all of these ideas about women wearing something or doing something portrayed as an embarrassment for men (partners, brothers, fathers, even w their kids, ask s3x workers).
Not defending him, what he did is really pathetic
Sluts will always want to behave as if still single even when there in a relationship, no self respecting men would be cool with girl and mother of his children, dress like that griding on another man.
Why did she publicly humiliating him like that first, is that something you do to your man, you dress like that and grind on other dudes, and he has no right to be upset?
Hopefully he dumps her cheating ass, she can be a stereotype, miss strong independent single mama 😅
The child won't be effected by the sight of its mom in a bodysuit and tights. It will be affected by the public humiliation of its mother, by its father, that is now displayed to the entire world and preserved for all time on the internet.
No. See now you're picking and choosing. A child will be effected if she's looks scandalous in public.
If Keke and her boyfriend discussed her not dressing this way in private and she went against that then she is in the wrong. But if they never did then the guy is completely in the wrong.
@@morganyu812 how tf will the kid be affected by her dressing a certain way???? plus her kid is literally still a baby not even old enough to know whats going on lmao
@@morganyu812Their not married. The baby should be affected by the lack of man who think they can claim women with a baby but not marriage. Have a seat.
@@morganyu812Fair but he need to actually be in Kekes life and committed to have such say.
@@anushkakulkarni112 Bish are you high? If people are talking about your mom looking like a whore then that definitely effects the child. You asking insanely obviously questions right now
It should have humbled him and made him thankful that Keke chose him, but instead it made him angry.
That's the problem with insecurity, it focuses outward instead of inward. Humility says "I am responsible for how I feel" whereas insecurity says "It's your fault for how I feel."
For real. Keke could’ve listened to Steve Harvey’s advice and get a better partner financially. However, Keke went by his looks, and personality (I believe). So, he should be grateful in my opinion.
Humbled him because she was basically flirting with another man? Do you say the same thing to a woman who’s man has just been flirting with other woman in front of the entire world making her look like a dumb ass? ‘Yeah you should feel humbled because your man could get anyone he wants, just take the disrespect’
Why be grateful? Because she’s pretty and successful? Nah, character is what makes a person respectable. Not the looks, fame or money
@@antonia9464 of character is what makes a man, he should have been confident enough within himself to not feel insecure over his girl dancing at a concert. Come on now
@@justhearmeout3959 confident enough not to take disrespect.
@@antonia9464 confident enough to not see disrespect in an innocent thing
Man really got with THE Keke Palmer and thought we would let this fly, in her own words, I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS MAN IS
Yes THE Keke Palmer and you go and do this?!?!? (Not that it would be ok to do to anyone, but I mean, to KEKE????) Sorry to this man.
I am currently pregnant. My husband is the exact opposite of these men. He loves when I wear revealing clothing (in an appropriate context) and supports it. This video made me extra grateful for him.
Awwww 😍
He sounds very lovely 🥺
So would you consider keke's context appropriate or inappropriate? And is grinding on usher okay?
@@Jeremy-wp4yhShe was not grinding on Usher loser. You men will see whatever you want to prove your point and it’s childish
@@Jeremy-wp4yhshe didn't grind on him
what really bothers me about the jonah hill situation is how people will explain it away. i see these men on the internet acting like this level of insecurity is normal, and that makes me worry about how they treat women in their own lives and relationships. why is the burden of proof so high for abuse victims?? do we need ring camera footage to fully denounce someone, à la steven crowder???? its the banality of evil i fear, and its sickening
It not about insecurity in my opinion, because the way I see it he try to set boundaries in his relationship. And she didn’t agree with it so he left.But I can also see some of them been controlling, I see both of them in the wrong.
@@ebrimajallow9631 A boundary is not demanding that your partner quit their career that you knew that they had before they were with you. She is a professional model and surfer. He decided to date her knowing that she is a professional model and surfer.
She leaked their private convo for the whole world to see and gets no flack. I honestly dont think yalls are being fair to guys with this topic
@@ebrimajallow9631she did nothing wrong except leak the texts, but truly it was a public service considering how Jonah is seen in the public eye
@@TheRealDarth_Vaderit's the shock also the fact he is more famous and TWELVE years older. A whole decade and some change older should know better than to try to control a twenty something while pushing forty. Also no NDA, no fault at hand. Ask Leonardo DiCaprio he has probably done worse but has legal coverage
I think it also comes down to loving yourself as an individual. I’ve noticed men tend of have more of a lack of personal identity when they’re in a relationship too. If you have different or separate interests compared to the other person, that doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t work out. You have to keep yourself entertained and not be reliant on others for happiness. It’s easy to see the more successful person as less of a person if they make way more than you. You have to ground yourself.
Just want to say the concept of “hypergamy” doesn’t fix misogyny. Men can still be possessive and antiquated with their ideas about how women should conduct themselves.
Exactly. Rich men do the same to their partners.
Hypergamy is dumb ass goldigger crap..and they sound stupid because they think rich suckas have the right to be misogynist..
Misogyny doesn't exist just in men, it can also exist in women as well. But with women it's just not as exposed as with men outside.
I ALWAYS felt uneasy about Jonah Hill. Surprise, surprise. I know that people can be socially awkward or non-neurotypical, but sometimes you can sense this "uncanny valley," aura in people that are toxic and fake.
This! I think it’s so important that Sarah exposed the truth because it helps us to confirm those uneasy feelings we have as accurate.
She is posting texts years later to get attention. And he is right. If you don't respect each other, just end it. Now she is also attacking Jackson Hinkle, her ex before Jonah Hill.
@@JJS_11…so because it was a while ago, that makes it all hunky dory?
Is this how males get away with abusing women? They bury the secret for a few years and it just magically disappears?
I would love to be informed about the weaponization of therapy speak/ men+therapy
Same
out of context but i just wanted to say im happy i can FINALLY watch all of your age restricted videos that are about rlly important topics bc yayyyy finally turned 18 💖 love u madisyn
haha happy 18th! thank you :)
@@MadisynBrown tysm 💛
As someone who underwent emotional abuse from a partner who based their abuse on "boundaries" and "expectations" to control and gaslight me, I would love to see that video you outlined about the weaponization of therapy speak! (Also Jonah Hill released a documentary on Netflix about his therapist called Stutz and im so shook but not surprised he is like this)
I've been interested in that topic for a bit now! also sorry you went through that I hope you are doing better now ♡
@@poetrait941 thanks! I am :) I'm now with a partner who treats with so much love and respect
omg i had a controlling boyfriend once who was afraid of every producer, every photographer and it got in the way of my career path... and it was like why would you get in a relationship knowing who I am and what I do (be a singer and model) and then try to get me to be some hidden at home girlfriend god... and they all say it's their "boundaries" but to yell and scream and punish a woman for interacting with other humans for their work is fucked up. It's like some men just want human dolls that they dress and tell where to go and with who. eff that, so much happier being single and 6 years of no sex... im so done with these misogynists claiming they want a "traditional wife" while expecting her to make enough money + be controlled in every way. so done.
Ooooohhh men really sound horrible to exist with.🙊
The only lesson anyone should take from this is handle your relationship problems in-house. (Not talking about extremes here. Obviously)
I agree with you👏🏾!
This advice should go to the girl who leaked the messages with Jonah
The way she said in a interview if there’s problems we don’t take it online like wtf is he doing
Keke followed Beyonce's Formation lyrics perfectly: Always Stay gracious, Best revenge is your paper.
Crying bc it’s the usher boondocks episode all over again 😭😭
I worked in sales at a matchmaking company that primarily catered to successful women and omfg...the number of *high earning straight women who said they HAD to date a man who makes more money* was WILD.
Even more so the reason why: they all had previous relationships fall apart because the man they were with realized he was not, in fact, okay dating a woman who makes more than he does.
*So even rich women have been engaging in hypergamy for years simply because most men do not have the self esteem to be with them if they don't make more money than she does.*
I think you got it backwards. Most women are not okay dating a man long term who makes less. Long term all the relationships I've seen the women resent their spouses making less.
@@morganyu812 tell it to the thousands of women I talked to about their romantic lives 😂
@@morganyu812That is the reason tho. Also the way some men mooch off of you and don't ant to improve their lives for anything.
Normally why would you try to enter a relationship as a grown adult thinking about marriage but you aren't financially secure. No insurance ,no savings, no investments nothing. Like if you want to have kids how are you going to pay their school fees bruh
@@eliza6971 I would if I somehow get into contact with them
@@ayomidedareabel5525 Guys can still do that. Women just don't like dating men who make less than them
he better leave keke alone istg
@@stargirIll no
He really should
We will always support you no matter what. You have great insights.
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i third this
Someone made a great comment on tiktok that I 100% agree with
"You knew what she was wearing before she left the house...so is it REALLY about the outfit?!"
Precisely
I agree with everything you said in this video girl
I just find it so aggravating because THIS COULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN AN EFFECTIVE AND ENLIGHTENING DISCUSSION IF HE WAS MATURE ENOUGH TO DO SO!! 😑
I know. They should have just had a private conversation between one another. What a dummy.
coming from a 6 year long relationship where it took me a while to realize i was too much of a woman to an insecure man who project his insecurities on how I dressed and behaved, this video was very refreshing to watch and i feel validated 💗
Same, I feel validation when I walk into my girls' salon in my gym clothes (sleeveless shirt and short shorts) my girl hurries over to me and grabs my arm to claim me in front of the other women. If she didn't like it she would leave. I have freedom of expressing my hard work and 🍆 print. No woman will control me
The keke palmer baby daddy and jonah hill shit happening in the same weekend truly a chef kiss moment. Just back to back controlling men clownery.
The whole problem was usher grinding on her then the man comes on the internet aggressively and moans the most stupid thing and villainizes himself
yup thats exactly what I said as well
That’s a fair point, but I did not see too much grinding going on in the clips I saw. They were close, but not in a way to get mad, and act a fool online. This could’ve been resolved if they talked about the situation privately. Besides, Keke Palmer, and Usher are entertainers. Both are in relationships and friends too. Just my opinion.
There was no grinding!! I don’t get why people keep saying this. They were literally just swaying side to side
@@biancamcflurry9206 i saw the video just because there was grinding on the front or side and not the ass doesn't mean there wasn't grinding and you can clearly see usher getting a good handful of ass meat in his hand changing the wording doesn't change what happened
Me personally as a gender fluid individual who is pansexual, I don’t really get gender roles like this in relationships 😂. My response to men freaking out about not being in their “ masculine” is something that they have to get over or they’ll never have a good and honest relationship. And my response to women is to leave, but often I find my personal response to be too simple due to my background, I kinda would shrug it if if my partner disrespected me and move to greener pastures, like disrespectful people are replaceable.
To the left, to the left. 🎶😂
There's no such things gender fluid, you're mentally deranged
I'm almost 100% conviced that Keke's dms are blowing up rn 😂
Him and usher is like that one boondocks episode where Tom was worried usher was gonna take his wife 😭😭😭😭
we don’t shame dads for walking around outside shirtless
Only if they have a 6 pack n not a dad bode
Be sharper and Try better next time b…….h
Yes! And they ain’t got body like Keke 😒
And honestly, we should. I don’t wanna see your hairy ass chest
And we don't shame boys for harassing women either.
And we don't shame boys for harassing women either.
I haven't watched the whole video yet, so I don't know if this is covered or not. But perfect timing considering Jonah Hill's text messages to his ex were just leaked, where he was essentially giving her a list of things she can and can't do in the relationship. Insecure much??
He's not insecure
Those are boundaries and why did she leak the chats
He was giving her a rundown of the reasons why he would no longer be with her. She crossed his boundaries, and he decided to end the relationship. How much more healthy communication do yall want?
@SMHAnimations "Healthy communication" isn't the issue. It's the sense of entitlement to the person he is with that is the concerning factor. To say you're uncomfortable with your partner having friends with the opposite sex is one thing. I find that to be extreme, but I can see how someone who isn't confident within themselves would feel threatened by that. But in Jonah's case, not only was his ex not allowed to have friends of the opposite sex, she wasn't even allowed to conversate with the opposite sex!!! He even had their therapist remind her of this. That's not healthy, that's controlling.
@@HeyItsDarci nowhere did he say that. He said specifically he didn't want her having inappropriate or boundaryless relationships with men, or friendships with women who are unstable. If she was able to form healthy, appropriate relationships with men, then this wouldn't even be a story.
Ultimately, it's not controlling if he just leaves when she doesn't abide by his standards. It would've been wrong if he had these issues and stayed with her, continuing to give her an ultimatum that he'd leave if she didn't change. He simply moved on and found somebody who checked all his boxes. I wonder why his new partner, the one he has a child with, hasn't leaked any of their texts. Hmmm
@SMHAnimations no, it was controlling the second he stated his ridiculous demands expecting her to just agree to them. Just because they eventually broke up, doesn't mean the relationship itself wasn't controlling. As for his new girlfriend, who knows why. It could be because they have a kid together and she would rather not paint the father of her child in that light publicly. It could be that she's fine with being micromanage in a relationship. If she is, good for her. But I get this underlying feeling that having nearly every aspect of your relationship controlled by your partner (someone who is supposed to be your equal) is somehow supposed to be considered healthy, when it's not. Especially if it's not a consensual dynamic.
Once, I had a guy bully me cause he felt like he couldn't afford me. not cause he's poor, were both from a middle class area. but because he had bad work ethic. he felt emasculated by me and I hurt his ego so instead he wanted to bully me and hurt me. and it worked, he made me cry
Can we also talk about how he probably watches naked girls online and gives his sexual attention to other women? Has even possibly been to strip clubs when they were together? Maybe even was thirsting over some instagram models in their dms? I know I’m just speculating but it’s happened to me and a bunch of other women, men get so anal about what you wear and post and the whole time they were thirsting over other women. I’m over it!!
But why are you making these assumptions if you don’t know him lmao they’re both in the wrong
@@Unknown2345girl I said I was speculating but it’s something a lot of women go through
You make a valid point on this discussion. It definitely is a jealousy thing with Darius. I hope he gets himself together. I do not think Keke’s separating anytime soon, so hopefully he gets himself together. Lastly, Usher is in a relationship too, and not married. So, Darius needs to chill out. They’re entertainers and just friends. It’s not like Keke and Usher were overly sexual with one another.
P.S. - Yes, do a Jonah breakdown. I just found out about this mess. It needs to be dissected more online🫡💯
Thank you for talking about important topics/issues this way
The Jonah Hill situation annoys me so much because of how people are responding to it. The amount of men (and some women, disappointingly) who are defending his behaviour, claiming that he is not controlling her is astounding. He IS controlling her! Telling someone, regardless of gender, how they can dress, who they can talk to etc, is controlling behaviour. You have no authority to police someone’s personality, and the way they live their life (unless it’s harmful). Jonah Hill wasn’t setting boundaries with his ex, he was projecting his insecurities onto her and using therapy talk to justify his insecurities.
He said if she disagrees then he is not the person for her. She could leave and she did. It's not abuse. It's not controlling. It's someone's boundaries
@@Jeremy-wp4yhtelling someone to delete their bikini pics, let go of friendships, quit their job etc is NOT setting boundaries. Setting boundaries is something personal to you like invasion of privacy for example. What Jonah Hill was doing was literally being controlling in a way.
@@Im_bor3d0 you should read the message. It was very eloquently phrased. She was given the option to walk away and no hard feelings if she disagrees and they won't be a match. This was in no way forced. And you're leaving out alot of context. The friendships were previous toxic female friends she had and male exes. There was history
@@Jeremy-wp4yh Just because he gave her an out does not mean that his intentions were not to control her. Why did he date her in the first place if there were so many things he didn’t like about her and the way she lived her life? She made him insecure (not her fault) and he responded by enforcing “boundaries”. If he was a secure man, who she was friend with, or the way she dressed wouldn’t be an issue to begin with.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhLmao he was trying to guilt trip her. It's crazy how y'all didn't see it
this whole situation just makes me think of the Usher episode of Boondocks 😭
men getting angry that women are more successful nowadays is like women getting angry that more men are taking care of themselves (makeup, fashion, hygiene), learning to keep a house and be more emotional. the latter doesn’t happen as much as the former if at all, and it really shows you that men are the only ones fighting invisible enemies for absolutely no reason. being insecure is completely fine but being insecure and making it everyone’s problem is stupid and childish. feeling like your manhood is being threatened by women having a life, as if that has anything to do with you is literally so embarrassing, and again that’s like a random women tweeting about men who are better at makeup than her (very dumb ik) and demanding that these men cease existing…
I don't know what success has to do with this...
10000000000000% Agree!!
No woman is angry that men are taking care of themselves😂😂in fact they are happy
@@ayomidedareabel5525True😂
I wouldn't say she was "publicly humiliated", he just embarrassed himself and she was unbothered. He tried and he failed.
Homie unironically pulled a Tom DuBois from the boondocks. he saw his gf with usher and lost his shit lmao.
omg i totally forgot about that lol
Not Mr. DuBois 😂
Every man is scared of Usher 😂😂
Keke looked absolutely stunning in her outfit
It was elegant while still being sexy
It shows deep insecurity and a total lack of respect when a man cannot appreciate a woman’s right to express herself through her fashion
Her vivacious and sexy self expression is what attracted him in the first place!
“you a mom” and u a flop.
Right like nobody knows who he is LMAO
This comment is funny...😂
@@AUGHHHHHBBGso a man should have no boundaries just because he's not as famous as Keke? Yeah just making sure we on the same page
@@morganyu812 he can have boundaries but u calling it out on the internet isn't finna being ur favor especially cus she is famous. If I went online and said slurd about Beyonce nobody finna be on my side either
@@AUGHHHHHBBG I agree he should have done it in priviate
your case for hypergamy falls apart with jonah hill since he's more successful than she is. also, this presupposes that wealthy men aren't insecure or controlling. it's funny how people will call out misogyny or racism but will then turn around and just be blatantly classist. zoomers gonna zoom, though.
no coz the second i saw his ‘think piece’ tweet start with “We live in a generation where…” i thought oh god, hereeee we go 🙂 but dude really dug himself a deeper hole with that one my goodness
That Janet clip chile...🥵. If my partner got touched like that by miss Jackson I'd be pissed because IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME 😭
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I usually don't agree with you on everything, but you ate this up!!!! The amount of black men I've seen just on youtube calling her out her name is disgusting.
even if she was tweaking so? (Nick's baby daddy is trash and definitely shouldn't open his mouth lol)
Also, Jonah is getting support which is mind-blowing but also not surprising.
What did Jonah do wrong?
@@morganyu812personally, I don't think it's cool to get together with a woman who is a surfer, and model, and then tell her that she has to stop modelling, and sharing photos in swimsuits online (when she wears swimsuits to surf) if she wants to remain in the relationship. To present this as just "boundaries".
He knew who she was and what she did when he got together with her. It's not cool to try and change a person this hard after knowing all this stuff about them before you get together.
If you realise after you've gotten together with a person that actually you aren't cool with their profession, or the way they conduct themselves in person or online, then you can decide to end the relationship. If the issues you discover once you enter a relationship are things you and your partner both want to work on that's different. But it's not cool to get together with someone and then after the fact tell them to take down all their posts you dislike (that you didn't have an issue with when you got together) and to change large parts of who they are.
The up close....Let's not bite the hand that feeds us. So true. He definitely let his insecurity show. Idk her relationship but I have different life experiences and that would definitely be a serious conversation for one and maybe something more severe if behavior didn't change for two.
The fact what he really thought he could do something with this… Like hun ur fired ❤ Keke isn’t a woman who gonna eat his shit
His fragile male ego was shook
My whole thing about it was this: . He was ALL the way wrong on this 1. He was tweeting about how he has “ morals and beliefs” ok. Fine. Why is she not your wife then? Like… Itdoesntevenmakeanysense!!! - Kendall from succession voice-
and just cuz a lady dresses provocatively ( which is HER choice) that doesn’t automatically mean that she’s a “wh0re” or she’s part of “ wh0re culture”. Dudes like him need to get outta that thinking/ mindset/ mentality. cuz it just screams insecurity
so…yeah that was my take on it.
Love the video btw. Keep those insightful takes coming 😎
But his keke a babymomma? If that’s the case
No. Cuz married or not she’s still a mom and she still has a child.
@@greenmatrix30sevenso?
Whadaya mean “so”?
What is the point of dressing provocatively when you have a man?
Like yeah her husband is in the wrong but posting a whole video about that and then using NICKI as a “good example” is fucking crazy when the woman is married to a rapist and defends him and his crimes.
Like wtf lmfao..thank you for saying this!
Just finished watching and I love this video!! Thank you so much for talking about this subject! Love you Madisyn!!
If the roles were reversed women will defend keke, the same women who won't want their men to dance like this with keke, the same women who don't see the problem with jonah ex sharing private convos while saying keke's ex should have kept his feelings private!! The hypocrisy is realllll!!!
calling out an abusive and controlling ex online is NOT the same thing as humiliating an ex online because you didn't like 1 thing they did.
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u always have such a nuanced perspective on every topic. I know that I may not always agree with what you say but I come to watch ur videos because I know u have common sense. Even though our life experiences are different, your words always find a way to resonate with me. Breathe of fresh air.
Please make a video on the weaponization of therapy speak.
REAL TALK, because a lot of men are doing that in this very comment section talking about "sO mEn CaN't hAvE bOuNdAriEs???"
The amount of truth and facts ur speaking got my head feeling huge 🤓 amazing video, as usual👏
I dated someone who was deeply insecure and it was hell.
I didn't know that he was deeply insecure whilst we were dating as a result I didn't understand his behavior.
What he claimed to be, modern man that respects women, and how he bahaved were two different things. Everytime I'd point that out he would gaslight me and it didn't help that the man I was experiencing at was completely different from the man everyone knew.
Anyways, I healed from that and now I can tell when anyone is deeply insecure under the mask they put on in public. Keke your man is deeply insecure and you need to run.😅
Lmao dude is not insecure because he doesn’t want his girl flirting with other men the shit that you women are trying to normalize in this generation is insane lmao
just wanted to say that your skin is GLOWING. skincare routine please and thank you 😭
So what he was mad at Keke for having a good time? All he achieved is making himself look dumb.
I would like your man to have such a good time with keke in public while your cheer for it..ok?
This kind of mindset is underrated.😮
There's two things I see in these situations
1) society doesn't work the same when it comes to men's clothes, there really isn't a lot of "he's dressing slootty"
2) men have a higher probability of not knowing how to handle their emotions
What the 2 things make is this dumb case where men don't build that trust w others (happens more w women) cuz communication bad or smth and they really don't get this "feeling sexy" thing like women do.
TL,DR: Men struggle being vulnerable, "cheat" culture is fckn w their minds and misogyny (as always).
He wants to be with the closest thing to perfection he’ll ever be around and usher to be no where around so she can’t notice how less impressive he is
I have to be re-reminded of this man’s name every video I watch about this and I’ve watched 3 today.
I'm so here for your commentary
i was waiting for you to talk about this! loved the video
He's definitely not worthy of her and he knows it. Look at him with Keke vs A$AP Rocky with Rihanna, the difference is night and day.
Just discovered your channel & its so refreshing to hear a point of view that I completely agree with❤
so obsessed with ur channel omg
yes please do the therapy video, it’s a super interesting topic and i’d love to here your thoughts
Keke literally said she wanted to handle their issues in private and he overstepped that boundary
That's lack of respect
If you do a video on the weaponizing of therapy speak, please mention NPD!!
I was LITERALLY just looking up what happened with this your timing is impeccable
your title is just so spot on and hilarious
Love you beautiful woman! ❤thank you SO much for talking about this! These men have deep insecurities and a woman will never be able to save them, they need Jesus 🎉
So do women. Goofy
madisyn is so cool i wish i had friends like her
Omg ur pumping out so much new content lately get it sis, organised queen
Absolutely love your closing thoughts on insecurity and I could not agree more. I think conversations about insecurity often focus on how it impacts our perception of ourselves and misses how much it blocks healthy relating to others.
If your man isnt doing better, emotionally, mentally, spiritual how can he lead?
Keke's baby daddy, and Jonah Hill can start a club or support group or something.
People try to tell me that feminism has gotten out of control, yet this man tried it against this woman because he felt very comfortable and justified to do so. And he has been awarded with some agreement and solidarity, which I'm sure he will use as a lauchpad out of the financial ruin he will face talking himself out of being Keke Palmer's boyfriend.
SHE POSTEDDD YAYYY
He was upset that Usher was all in her face and he just didn’t wanna seem like a hater 💀💀 It’s that scene from Boondocks all over again lol.
you didnt mention about jonah hill being publically humiliated. double standard when its woman doing the humiliting?
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@@m.z1256 So, his ex came out with his alleged abuse only after a year they broke up, and directly after his new partner gave birth. Bitter and petty.
@@MegaMilenche how? that's a crime if its real
@@m.z1256 So, again, she waited until he moved on, found a new partner, became happy, his new partner gave birth to a child... To? Well, not report a crime, actually. She didn't report any crime. She thought she did a gotcha.
honestly i don't have anything to add at this point, but your videos are so insightful
UR POSTIMG SO QUICK MADISYN
Men that are talking about how they don't like how their woman dress is a turnoff for me.