Learn how to CARVE - 3 EASY DRILLS
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
- Hi
On request I have decided to release the beginner chapter from my highly acclaimed "3 LEVELS OF CARVING" video in hopes to teach as many of you as possible how to carve. Note that even if these are so called basic beginner carving drills our top racers practice these drills almost on a daily basis to get dial in. Get balanced. Get in tune. So can you.
Note, carving is easy but at the same time it is also hard. The hard bit is letting go of your urge to turn your skis. Let the skis turn you instead. You need to relax and be confident. In order to do so you first need to learn how to wedge and do basic parallel turns. Check out my videos "3 levels of wedging" and "3 levels of parallel skiing" for the correct and safe pathway to CARVING. Also, check out many more of my videos on skiing technique. It is a great sport and it's for life. And it is a family business. A holiday and a trawl business. I'm in, hopefully you are too :)
Remember that this also serves as a great warm up at the start of the season.
reg.
Tom
TDK SkiRacing / Triggerboy62
Thank you! 'it's not you turning the skis, it's the skis turning you' - the key, to understand carving.
Absolutely! Glad you picked up on that statement. Kind of the secret to carving :)
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@@Triggerboy62 Thanks from me, as well. It definitely changed my perspective. Before that, I tried to turn skis with my feet. Later I told my life long skiing friends about this, and they mocked me as if that's complete nonsense. I didn't take them seriously. They have a habit now. They don't even know how to explain what they're doing. :D
This has to be the simplest explanation of carving ever thank you so much
Thank you very much for watching and your nice comment. Much appreciated.
Straight forward and simple instruction...well done and thanks!!!
Thank U for watching. Tom
OK, will follow this for practicing. Thank you
Best of luck!
I'm going skiing in January, and after lessons at my own pace I'll try this out on the green runs.
Great ide. Yes, dont be turned off by practicing on green runs. Hopefully you will have a great ski-trip. Cheers Tom
I believe this is the best video on carving for the beginners. Thank you for sharing!
Wow, thank you!
Your skier is such a good skier. Clean and stable technique
Thanks, and yes, solid as a rock :)
Thank you for the step by step, it simply unlocked my carving, I could only parallel skid before. Thank you very much!
Wow! Excellent! Incredible. Thanks for watching and good luck with your new skill. Happy Holidays, Triggerboy & Team
Excellent! Step by step in big letters. 45 years ago was a experienced and good skier, but carving is all new to me. This was as simple as I needed it. Thanks a bunch!
Very welcome! So nice of you to drop a line and that the lesson was easy to understand. The thing with skiing is that there are a few key elements you need to nail be it carving, weding or parallel turns but then its all just applying your own style to your skiing. Own style and own moves. No one skier looks the same.
Great video!! Thanks! I love railroad tracking and I teach straight to parallel very often because this type of skiing is so fun and effortless.
Thanks for watching. Yes, RRTrax are addicting. Cheers, Tom
Cant wait to practice this. Keep up with this simplified and understandable content. Thanks!
Awesome! Thank you! I will try to do my best. Cheers, Tom
Simple explanation love your teachings. thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Ah it looks so easy and smooth for you! I will these drills and hope one day I can ski this smoothly.
Thanks for watching. It looks indeed easy but it is actually not that hard. You just need to get the fundamentals right. Start with these drills and you will surprise yourself. Cheers, T
I can't even begin to explain how much this helped me my second time on the slope. You're a legend.
You are too kind. Thank you very much for watching and enjoying my videos :)
Perfect. Simple. I can always remember this. You dont turn the skis. The skis turn you. Thank you!
You're welcome!
I cannot wait to try this out in st. Anton this March! Second time skiing and I was skidding a lot more than carving so hoping this helps! You are a genius!
Thanks for watching and good luck in StAnton. My favorite ski place. But if you are just starting out, be careful, carving makes you go fast. Cheers, Tom
Great video for beginners. Very easy to digest. Thank you!
You're so welcome! Thank you for watching, reg Tom
Great motivational system for faster and efficient transitions
Wow, thanks and thanks for watching. Cheers, Tom
I'm going to try these drills this weekend when go skiing
Great, please let me know how it went. Please let someone take a few video clips with a phone and send me. I will give you my comments. Cheers, Tom
@@Triggerboy62 I tried drill #1, #2, #3 and #4 multiple times today, could not get clean track on a green run, got very frustrated. I could get down from black runs easily, but obviously I dont get some fundamental technique right. Both inside and outside ski track is wide with skidding and they are not even. Are drill#1 and #2 very easy to do? I dont understand why I cannot do these.
@@judychen7074 Hi Judy and thanks for trying the drills and getting back to me even if you did not manage to make those clean tracks. First of all, its not easy. Actually it is once you learn it but it can be frustrating at first because carving is so different from normal skiing. You really have to let the skis do the turning. You need to relax and let go of the urge to "turn your skis". It could also be an equipment thing. If you have any video please send me a link or the clip to tdk.skiracing@gmail.com. Together we will get you carving. And yes, not nailing it is no sign you are a bad skier or that you cannot ski blacks. It is just different. Cheers, Tom
@@Triggerboy62 Thank you so much Tom. I sent you an email with link to videos from my hotmail email address. Look forward to hearing from you from there. Soooo appreciated.
@@judychen7074 thank you, got the email and the videos. I will reply asap.
Been watching videos after videos about carving, failing everytime I was trying. You can find the simplest explanation in this video, I will try these drills next time I will go skiing. Thank you!
Thank you for watching and for giving my method a try. Remember that if you do not balance over the outside ski you will instantly fall to the inside of the turn. Thats why the "banana" position is so important. Been teaching it to my students all winter and its really important. Really try to nail the double pole push and fish hook drills before attempting railroad tracks and linking carved turns.
@@Triggerboy62Hi, you say put weight on the outside ski but lets say you are turning left yet the outside ski is right, wouldnt you go right?
Great video with theory and practice.
Thanks!
I watched it although I can already carv but it's a very good tutorial👍
Thanks for watching and for leaving such a nice comment. As I mentioned in the description field and also on the thumb nail, these drills can be performed by skiers that already can carve as early morning warm ups, for tweaking technique or as season starter drills.
Thank you for these instructions!
You are so welcome!
This is a suberb tutorial. Thank you very much for putting this together. It's so well explained, especially the railroad analogy.
Glad you enjoyed it! Takes time to make these videos and its always nice if people find them helpful. Cheers, Tom
Great material..Thanks..many of what you teach is very much inline with the fundamentals I picked from Harb...
Great to hear!
I’ve been skiing for 3 years now but i never really tried carving (I consider it the hardest tehnique). Instead I’m using skidding. Next time skiing i will try those drills, they seem fun to try and really well explained. Wish me luck
Good luck of course. And thank you for watching. The hardest part with carving is to let go of the urge to initiate every turn by manually turning your legs and skis. Just like I explain in the video. Just tip the skis on edge and let them carve. First master the double pole push. Then the fish hooks. Then rail road tracks. For the rail road tracks use a very easy slope and stay close to the fall line as students usually do the mistake going out too wide to the side and running out of speed or slope to turn on. Turning is at first veeeeeeery slow and with a big radius. That is normal, you will soon get used to it. reg. Tom
@@Triggerboy62 Woah, thanks for the reply, I will try my best. Wish there were more youtubers like you. Keep up the good work
@@ciocanfilip3873 Thanks :)
@@ciocanfilip3873 Did you carv?
@@davidn.2555 It took me some time to get over the fear of carving, since you don’t control the skies, they control you. But I managed to learn it, and it is so much fun and interesting. I’m still trying to control the speed and when exactly I turn, because now I’m basically going sonic every time I carv😅
very very good and simple, thank you!
Thank you for watching. T
I can't wait. I hope to start carving ASAP. Colorado here I come
Hi, good skiing in Colorado. Hope to ski there one day.
@@Triggerboy62 I just hope to carve properly by one week.
Good luck 🤞
So David, how was skiing this year in Colorado? Did you get to carve?
@@Triggerboy62 I'm actually in colorado now for a 5 day spring break skiing. Can I call you on video or something? I know I would have problem with the level 2 parallel skiing (up and waiting) carving is my ultimate goal. And I have binged your videos of the different levels of skiing Over 100 times.
simply and clear. thanks👌
You are welcome 😊
Excellent video, well done.
Many thanks!
“It’s not you turning the skis, it’s the skis turning you” I think you have me the key
Great tips!! Thanks!
You are so welcome! Cheers, Tom
I am just binging carving tips before i go skiing lmao 😭😂
Yes, these are good drills to memorize before you go skiing and then you try to do the same. Have someone make a video and send me a link and I can comment. Cheers, Tom
Thanks so much! It is an amazing video. Very helpful.
You're very welcome! Thank you for watching :)
@@Triggerboy62 I have just subscribed!
Thanks :)
Good stuff.. Im a skidder.. will try these drills. Thanks
Hi, thanks, do the drills and get back to me with how it went. Reg Tom
Many thans maestro! Great video!
My pleasure!
I think the most common misstake we beginners make is that we try to learn these moves on steep slopes.
This is a very good video man thank you. I will give carving a try this weekend on the beginners slope. Greatings from Austria the skiing heaven 😃🤙⛷
Thanks for giving it a try. Yes, Austria is skiers heaven. Thanks for pointing that out to me at times we are unable to trawl there. Lucky you, ski for both of us :)
@@Triggerboy62 i sartet skiing this january and am able to ski red slopes without crashing. Shure im not carving the slope down but mostly drifting. But i realised its pretty dangerous to drift on bad slopes. Its ok if its prepared but as people ski down and the sun loosen the snow your skis can stuck in the snow because your skis are diagonal to the loosened deep snow. So therefore its way better to carve the deep snow and cut your way through it. The problem is the increased speed you are not used to as a beginner. There is a big chance to panic and crash. Thats why i think its better to train on beginners slopes until your body and muscles do the right moves automatically. (Muscle memory) (Excuse my bad english man we speak german) I hope i was able to explain what i mean.
There are sooo many ski areas in my surroundings (Vorarlberg) and yeah i will ski for both of us 👍 keep up the good work. Subscribed and liked....
Hope you had fun skiing this past week in Voralberg. I used to ski there a lot. I usually stay in Partenen and ski in the Gaschurn area. Ive also done the Madrisa tour over to Klosters and then back. Great off piste skiing. That is however maybe 30 years ago. Time flies. Maybe next year.
By the way, you are absolutely right. Drifting diagonally on a very worn out piste can be uncomfortable and difficult. However carving is too fast. Usually there are also bumps at the end of the day so that makes everything much more difficult. Both drifting and carving. So build on your overall skills. Thats exactly what you should do. Start carving on very easy slopes and learn to ski bumps. By the way, Nova Stoba used to have the best bump slope ever before it got groomed for tourist to drift on.... Thats where I learned to ski bumps.
@@Triggerboy62 thanx for your tips i really appreciate that. O yea i was at Mellau Damüls resort practicing carving. It was the first time i felt that hopping up each end of the curv when you wanna change direction. I dont know whats that called sepecifically. Like you feel the pressure while carving and that release for the next turn doesnt feel nice and smooth but like if something pushes you up real hard in a split second. Its a very good feeling to keep that rhythm. This weekend i will be at Sonnenkopf resort. This season is almost over i have to take every chance to practice.
What i have realized watching people ski is that they just ski. They dont do conscious skiing like ok lets practice that short turns or lets increase the angle or whatever. They just ski down the slopes and hope for natural improvement. People getting on blacks and show off like o look im skiing black slopes but what they do is they ski very slow and diagonal from one edge to the other of the piste. I dont wanna do that i really want to practice and improve my technic so i can ski reds and blacks pretty sporty and fast if you know what i mean.
Im enjoying your content man thanx for the good work. There are tons of german videos but i like to watch yours because of your simple explainings👍
@@jdmislove that pop at the end of the turn is called "rebound" :)
Simple and clear, thanks!
You're welcome!
The shorter the ski, the harder it is to carve smooth turns. That's why I ski on 190s and I am just 5/10".
Thanks for watching. Ski length is individual but I like both short and long. Longer skis make wider turns and run faster. My SG skis are 210 I think and on a closed practise slope they are scary as heck but sooo much fun to ski on. Shorter skis I find easier for intermediate skiers as they turn easier when you tip. The better you are the longer you can use.
I'm very sorry for the late thanks.
I really appreciate the lesson. It pulled me back to slope. And it's very effective.
Believe this man, he has culture.
At the end of last season, several hours after carving (sliding actually, but I thought I'm carving at that time) through blue slope with my own first skis and boots, I thought, maybe I overesimated the fun of ski.
As the pain getting worse on my navicular bones, I thought maybe I'd like playing cod. Fine, I will take a last run and
put them on ebay.
During it, I thought maybe I can exercise those drills that I watched last night(yes, these 3 drills in the video),
So I pulled over, took my cellphone out, umm, the 1st drill seems too easy, I'd like try the second.
It's smooth, I thought. After about 5 rounds of the drill, The "last run" came to the last half and the slope is soft, I was confident to get some speed. Then, at that time, just that time:
Tight, tight, tight, adrenaline, dopamine, norepinephrine, whatever, this is carving, this is sking, I love sking.
All the rest of that day, I enjoyed the silky feeling of carving and forgot the pain until the lift stopped.
Thank you man. Let's keep grinding and enjoying
👏
What a nice story. Thanks for sharing and I feel so grateful I could be of some help. Check your boots at a boot fitter before hitting the slopes again and you will enjoy it even more. Regards, Tom
So jealous of that snow! It doesn't usually get that cold in the PNW of the US so gentle run like that would be MUCH slower. Luckily the ski area I grew up had a ton of night skiing but really hard to find fresh groomers at that point.
Conditions in Levi are outstanding. Hope you get to ski on snow like this upcoming winter. Cheers, Tom
Here in Pennsylvania it’s supposed to be cold here, but this winter of 2022/2023 hasn’t been very much of a winter, barely any natural snow, and it’s also been very warm, hitting upper 60s and low 70s sometimes in January and February. Our ski resorts make their own snow but it hasn’t been quite cold enough to do this often and many trails are closed because of it enough snow. Conditions are sluggish and soft or ice now.
It's very helpful
Thank you for watching and glad it was helpful :)
Thanks this helps im going to ski:)
Good luck!
I am a simple skier, i see TriggerBoy video, i click Like
Thanks :)
tnx man... nice tutorial video !!!
Thanks :)
Hi Tom. Great and useful video, thanks. Please consider to issue a video regarding how to improve the balance on the outside ski.
Great suggestion! I have to do that. Cheers, Tom
@@Triggerboy62 For me this the base of Alpine skiing and a really key point.
@@Triggerboy62 thanks !! Can't wait.
Thanks
Welcome
Beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
This is probably the best video on the net,easy explained and for me who stood on skies for the 1st time this is a much appriciated help that u gave me.I have just one question,iam 192 and everybody says that i should take skies around 168 for better adjust and learning.now i have around 180 i think.any tips?
Thanks for watching. Yes, 180s are too long. 168s are much better. Turn radius should be at 12-14m.
Hi great video. May I use you youtube link to our ski club in Geneva, as a reference?
Hi, of-course! That would be an honor. Please send me a link to the ski club page! Or email me on tdk.skiracing@gmail.com :)
Hi, could you please make video showing only short slalom carving turns with your music, as it can be seen in short introduction of your videos. It is joy to watch it, but is to short.
What a great request. I will do one :)
@@Triggerboy62 Thank you very much.
Ok, this video is next in line. Hopefully tomorrow :)
@@vedadramovic1649 Mission completed, be sure to also watch all the way to the end ;)
Wow
Wonderful
But it's been talked about separation,
Can you also make a video about what's the parts in separation, is it upper body and hip or hip and legs, is it in tilting side to side or fore and back?
Your videos are great👍👍👍
Will try, let me get back to this later :)
This is called decorative carving, but what about carving on a hard slope or steep slope? It's totally different story;
True, but the basic technique needs to be trained on easy slopes. Since we race @ FIS level we know all about carving on ice as most races are held at water injected and racing prepared tracks. Cheers, T
Thank you for simplifying the carving technique for everyone to understand. PS. Was that short footage from Swinghill?
Thanks for watching. Yes, some of the footage is from Noux :)
Cheers, Tom
No - carving is bad - slalom is great!
I'm 64 and got carving skies last year. Have been doing slalom in my youth, but got a break for 25 years. I was ok to do slalom,. Loved to do black pistes both in Norway and the Alps in Austria / Suisse / France.
- But carving,... it is dangerous!
This season; I gonna sell the carving skies and hope to find old fashioned SLAOM skies...Carving is dangerous!!!!
Greetings from Norway!
Thank you for watching and for leaving a comment. Good to hear that you are back on skis even if carving do not really suit you at the moment. But you can ski and enjoy it every bit as much without carving. Just check out my other videos on parallel skiing. Lots of them here on my channel. Im actually going against what is considered modern skiing as I advocate old school wedging, stem Christie's and parallel Christie's. Check out the video "3 levels of parallel skiing".
However, you don't have to have old school carving skis in order to make skidded turns. All my brushed parallel skiing videos I have made with state of the art 165 cm SL racing skis. Or you could try 175 cm long GS skis. Those are easier to skid with as their turn radius is greater and the skis don't hook up as easily.
Hope this helps.
Tom
@@Triggerboy62 Thank you. Very good advises. I'm used to long skies. I'm 185 cm tall and my old slalom skies where at least 10 cm. taler than me.
Felt much safer with longer skies. which I and not the skies decided when to turn..
The crazy carving skies they live their own life on the sloaps. I'm just a passenger.... afraid passenger
My Atomic carving skies are about 175 cm. long
Best regards from Norway
@@1MrErling sorry for late reply. Take it very slowly at first. Stay on very easy slopes. European Blue slopes are good. Carve only when there are not a lot of traffic on the slope. Check out my video tips on safe carving. reg. Tom
Do you offer private ski instruction? It would be a great reason for me to visit Finland
Please drop me a mail at tdk.skiracing@gmail.com
What skis and ski boots do you have?
I have been using Atomic Redster S9 FIS SL 165cm skis for the last 5 years or so. I had a couple of shorter 157cm for ski instruction use but mostly the men's model. Most of our skiing we do on the SL skis. Both me and Chris. We have GS and SG skis also but mainly for racing and training. We do not own any off-piste or wide phat skis or freestyle skis. The green boots are Dalbello Scorpion 130. I had 3 pairs and they were great boots. However, I did not get hold of new Dalbello's so I shifted to Atomic last year. So in my new videos I will be using Atomic Redster 150.
I was skiing for a bunch of years now. Im currently 25 and ive just started to learn how to carve. I have fischer race carvers 175cm length.
It is really easy to get into carving but takes a ton of training to become a good carver.
Im getting there slowly. Looking forward to buying an allmountain ski. I guess its way easier to carve with all mpuntain than with an race carver.
And the best thing he said in this video is you have to trust the ski and hope that it turns. Its s big mind game leaning into the hill going 70km/h.
But when you realise that the ski follows and is doing what you want then the real fun starts. Always keep learning on the slope.
Btw do you think its will be easier for me to carve on all mountain skis? The RC wants pressure and speed. A ridiculous radius.
Depends on the ski. I was out carving today with my Atomic S9 165's and they turn really well. You really have to try different skis. GS skis with turn radius of over 20 meters are very difficult to ski on because they need speed and wide open space. Race Carvers could be a better option in such case but nothing beats good SL skis for carving safely at low speed on slopes with other people around.
@@Triggerboy62 i wanted to go this season to try out different skis on a test day but unfortunately c is everywhere.. at least we are able to ski with masks..
Under my leg my rc is 64mm wide.
The all mountain ill buy has 84mm. I wonder how it feels.
Cheers mate you are absolutely killing it on skis!!
Hi Yisakii. Where are you from? Over in Finland we have been able to ski all winter. With some minor restrictions such as keeping distance and only with friends or family members in lifts. Restaurants serving food outdoor.
It really depends on your RC. What radius is that? My SL skis have a radius of 12m. My GS skis have a radius of over 20m. Both are nice but on my SL skis my speeds stays better under control. The wider all mountain ski might be ok on softer snow but it will not be as quick edge to edge. It will also be slower to react to tipping. However, if it is a good ski with a good plate and binding setup and a good tune it might be even more enjoyable than your RCarvers. Please tell me how your new skis felt!
@@Triggerboy62 hey! Im from austria. Its the same like you described here. I didnt get to use allmountain skis yet. Waiting for the next season.. but im hyped and i will keep you updated. Cheers mate
Brill 👍🏻
Thanks :)
Damn whoever this is in your videos, just tell him, his carving looks so fucking good
Thanks for watching. I will tell him. That is Chris. Check out the video MyStory for the whole story :)
@@Triggerboy62 thank you 🙏 and btw amazing video that just gives the information straight on. Really great work!
@@spozzikossi9253 thanks :)
You MUST look uphill before you set off across the slope!!
You are perfectly right about that. But I did mention it in the video as well.
Any drills you recommend for improving going through hairline and flush in slalom?
Thanks for watching. Great question. One of the most important things when skiing hairline and flush gates is to have a narrow stance. It is also important to be able to quickly move your feet and legs from under a stable upper body. We set up brushed gates in a long straight line also with lots of different rhythmical variations. One important thing is to be able to anticipate the last gate. In which direction it leads out of the section. You should be "falling" in that direction at the end of the flush in order to have sufficient edge hold. Did you see this video: ua-cam.com/video/X0Mn2iSb_Tc/v-deo.html
Its great for building up simultanious leg movements. Imperative in flush and hairpins. Hope this helps. I will put a lesson on this topic on my request list :)
Thanks
Thanks a lot ! I have one question : can you apply this technique to longer, faster skis with smaller side-cut ( higher radius skis , for example 190 - 200 cm lenght ) ? BRGDS
Yes, absolutely! Just that you need to be more patient because your skis turn so slowly and you usually need a much wider slope. We were racing GS a few weeks ago and I had Chris go through these same drills on his FIS GS skis with a turn radius more than 30m. It worked great. Cheers, Tom
As i remember, in carving instructors always told me the boots should be beside each other, and the uphill boot can be little more front.
But always i had this question that in transition how should body, specially upper body, hand and arm and waist and hip should turn till keep both boots beside each other.
Do they tell the correct methods?
What's your idea as a professional coach?
And how????🤔😁
Great question. Correct, keep the uphill ski a little bit pushed forwards. Keep that same angle in your hips and at your shoulders. As you come into transition you can "square up" with your upper body or you can hold onto your "upper body counter" as you start to transition onto your new edges. That is called "anticipation". So it depends on what your intent is. When carving clean tracks its better to square up, if you want to pivot or start your turns with a slight brush, use anticipation. Check out my video on Line Selection. There is a bunch of useful information on this topic. And ofcourse I will answer any of your questions right here :)
@@Triggerboy62 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@Triggerboy62 Thank you! I've been watching so many videos - this one is awesome - but almost no one talks about the positioning of your skis front-back when turning. This is the only time I've seen someone mention it, right here. If you look super carefully, you can actually see the uphill ski a bit more forward during a turn (when the good people are doing it), but it's pretty difficult to see unless you're direction above someone. Can't wait to try out these drills!
Sorry for late reply but UA-cam hides some comments and some comments not. This one was hidden. Anyway, since the skier is turning all the time its hard to make a video so that all angles would be covered. Glad you picked up this detail. Reg. Tom
Don’t know why when turn ,my upper feet will lift . Only Lower foot on snow , how can I fix this?
Are you trying to make any of the drills in the video or are you just generally asking? If you have a video taken with a phone of your skiing I would be more than happy to give my comments. If the inside ski comes off the snow it can mean that you are not engaging it enough. It needs to be tipped on edge and given some weight. Could also be a ski thing. Skis and boots play a major role.
How can I make my skis parallel to each other ?
Great question. Many times it is your gear. I once forgot my ski boots and had to rent. Crappy ones. Holy sh*t what a horrible experience. Not asking you to go and by very expensive gear, just that it could be a ski boot issue. You might also need a boot fitter to set your boots up in such way that parallel skiing is possible. A few years ago I taught that I could use my sons twintips for teaching beginners. Turned out I could not even wedge with them. So equipment is important. With good equipment my drills should be possible to perform. You can also e-mail me a video clip and I can comment. Cheers, Tom
Thanks for your tutorial. I have one question, is it recommended to have ski like yours, the slalom fis ski to start learning carving turns ? thanks a lot.
Thank you for asking. No, it is not necessary. I can recommend FIS SL skis if you are a ski racer or pro skier wanting to ski very fast or on race courses but any normal carving ski if it is well tuned and waxed will be sufficient for carving. Most suitable for recreational skiers are skis with a turn radius of 12-15 meters and 155-175 cm of length. The wider the ski is the less it is suitable for carving. I would say 75mm is the widest you should go in a carving ski. Our race skis are 65mm wide. Hope this helps. Cheers, Tom
@@Triggerboy62 Thanks for you reply, I have already ordered a stockli sl laser FIS. since we have a good off season price in our region, even a bit cheaper than the recreational one. I hope it will not be too stiff, too difficult or even too dangerous for learning for carving. Anyway I will be very careful when trying new skis, I will give you some feedbacks later about my impression of using fis ski for the first time as a no-racer :)
Where's this, Scandinavia? 😎
Levi, Finland :)
@@Triggerboy62 Come to Balkan one day, we like to ski as well, Ivica Kostelic aso ;) Also amazing food and mentality!
Cheers from Montenegro!
@@F1GradPrixMontenegro thank you for the invitation. I'm planning a trip to eastern europe and balkan. As soon as this covid 19 pandemi is over with I'll be on my way :)
hi i am 185 cm and i buy new baby rossi hero carve 167 , do you think the size is suitable for carving ? I tried it 2 times and I enjoyed it very much. The video is very educational thanks
Hi, I am 190 and I ski on 165cm SL skis. The ski is not too short. All the male WC ski racers ski on 165cm SL skis. A longer ski will give you better stability and longer turns but once you get used to the shorter ski you are going to like it. Cheers, T
Which ski resort is this?
Levi, Finland! Thank you for watching, Cheers :)
My legs\skiis are always far apart in the swing :) i always loose control if keeping the skiis\legs together. It is really difficult :D
Did you see my "Booty Band" video?
I am having trouble linking turns. I have been working on initiating my edge with good angles, using both skis, and trying to get the good constant width railroad tracks. But it seems like I either angle the skis not enough (they do not generate enough turning, and I get off balance because my center of mass is too far inside, and the skis are not pushing) or too much (the skis turn so much that I get off balance the other way). It is like a light switch...either too much edge at initiation, or not enough....
Here is a tip for you. The BANANA stance is important. On a gentle slope, carefully lean out over your outside ski while your hips go into the turn. When you do this there is no danger of loosing your weight to the inside of the turn and at the same time you have more weight on your outside ski. As soon as the skis start turning and turn forces are created, compensate the centrifugal force trying to pull you out in the turn by even more decreasing weight on your inside ski. This way you will be able to balance between both skis and stay in balance while your skis are turning without loosing your balance to the inside. Hope this helps. Cheers, Tom
So how does an instructor apply this to a student on a 106 under foot?
Sorry, not quite understanding what you are saying. Could you explain a bit more in detail please!
@@Triggerboy62 As an instructor I have had many students who are intermediate or above who have been sold these "fat" off piste skis. In the class when working on carving turns on groomed slopes I am finding it difficult to get them to make a turn using the arc of the ski. Any ideas?
Absolutely! Not possible with wide powder skis. I hate these new wide skis by the way. They might be great in powder, especially if you are not a very good skier, but on a groomer everything over 80 is just nonsense. Even 80 is wide by my standards. Or the absolute maximum for nice carving on a groomer. While we are on the topic, same applies to park skis. No shape, no edges, centered mounted bindings, no plate, snow spraying tail, for the most times the graphics ;)
Typically some overly optimistic blue eyed mother with a Tesla drops off her precious teenagers wearing baggy pants, huge 200+ goggles and wide tip and tail rocker offpist skis and expects you to teach them how to ski in an hour before sending them off to St Anton for a week and expecting them to come back in one peace :) (wish it was me hahahaa)
Awesome video thanks! Question: Is carving meant to replace skidding completely or there are situations when it's better to go skidding?
Hi, excellent question. Yes, there are situations when it's better to go skidding. In fact there are situations where your only option is to go skidding. Actually it is more important to be able to skid your turns than to carve them. How else could you wedge, ski powder, bumps, ski slowly, down narrow corridors, in crud, in bad weather, short turns, when its crowded, on course inspection in the WC etc. etc. etc. I have lots of videos on the topic of skidding turns. Check out 3 Levels of Parallel Skiing. If you cant find what you are looking for or have any questions shoot. That's what I'm here for, for you. Thanks for watching and waiting to hear from you :)
@@Triggerboy62 thanks! BTW I see that you are often in Levi. Any chance being there end of March?
Hi, I was supposed to be there at the end of March but now everything is going down the drain again.... with restrictions and whatever.... sorry for not replying earlier. Great of you to ask.
@@Triggerboy62 next season then, I'll be interested in some lessons if you do that
@@SirDawar yes, lets do that. My email is tdk.skiracing@gmail.com
This is a stupid question, but I've seen so many different versions of the answer. I know for skidded turns the outside ski dominates the entire turn. However, for carving, does the inside ski have as much pressure as the outside ski when starting the turn, and it's the curvature of the edge that turns both equally? Or is it the same as any other turn where the outside ski has all the weight and the inside ski just glides along?
There are no stupid questions. Your question is great. First, in my opinion when skidding turns the weight should not be entirely on the outside ski. It should be on both. Not 50/50 all the time but depending on the situation maybe 40/60. The faster you go the more pressure on the outside ski. And if you skid your turns you will not be going very fast so basically always weight both skis in normal parallel skidded turns. When you are carving and going faster like in Down Hill races there are situations where you have to put all your weight on your outside ski but not at slower speeds. The inside ski needs to be active as well. See my "how to rid A-frame" video for a good way to activate the inside ski. But there is a gray zone. That nobody can explain very clearly. The inside ski needs to turn at a tighter radius than the outside as it is closer to the center of the turn. At the same time you are putting more weight on the outside ski to really bend it. Mostly however, it is a matter of how much you tip your skis on edge. If you look at nice carved tracks you will see that they are wider at the apex of the turn and more narrow when going through edge change. Hope this helped. Reg Tom
Dear Triggerboy! Thanks for good lessons! Will You advice me on the following matter. I am 75 years old. Height 170 cm, weight 71 kg. Physical conditions are good. I have a decent skiing experience, but I mostly own a "classic" turn ("brush-type" or "skidding", as You like). I bought the Head WC Rebels islr 165 cm carving skis. I seem to follow the rules necessary for carving. But the skis stubbornly do not want to go "on the rail" track, one way or another they slide. And it doesn't depend on edging, body setting, etc. At least crack! It is especially bad on a steep and hard slope. Could the reason lie in the bad choice of ski model? Has anyone else encountered such a nuisance?
Hi, thank you for watching and for asking a question. The best way for me to help you would be to send a video clip of you trying to carve to tdk.skiracing@gmail.com. Your skis should be more than ok. However, if they are not tuned right it could cause you problems. And they would get worse the harder or the steeper it is. An other thing could be your boots or your alignment. There are lots of variations. And carving is not easy, especially at our age and with a long history of brushing our turns. Practice drill #1. I do that all the time. Also fish hooks. Hope this helps.
@@Triggerboy62 Many thanks! Tuning of ski, too low hardness of boots (95) and long-term "brushing" might be the reasons. Video clip is a bright idea! L'll try.
@@williamspostoronnim9845 Try the video clip. I have helped lots of people that way. The boots are not too soft for carving. Maybe for carving at very high speeds if that is the case.
Notice that his ski are really just shoulder width apart; more important, though, is to understand that he is coming at this from a racer’s perspective.
Thanks for watching and for leaving a comment. Yes, from a racer's perspective but also from a ski-instructors perspective hoping to reach out to skiers of all levels :)
An area of controversy in teaching is the ‘cowboy’, wide-leg stance. Many people don’t understand the spacing of the legs/skis in the horizontal versus vertical plane. Ski racers pass through the wide stance in a very quick transition (as they are traveling at 100kph+), and this is far from what a rec skier encounters. Also a wide horizontal spread on steeps will be dangerous. I just like to clarify that with my students, who tend to be older.
Great explanation. Thanks. Good luck with your student. They are really lucky to have an instructor like you :)
@@Triggerboy62 We're all still learning! Your stuff is such good video/visual reference. Since I am 'old', I have always gone back to the photos and videos of Harald Harb and Lito Tejada-Flores as examples of 'best practices'. With the advent of UA-cam, I can send links to a student who might not absorb everything when we're out on the hill, and 'grok-able' chunks like your videos helps in an age of shortened attention spans!
And forget about pole planting LoL
Hi, thanks for watching. Are you missing info on pole planting in this video?
Очень хорошее видео,жаль не владею Английским 😞
Thank you for watching and sorry not to be able to provide these videos in Russian. Maybe some day.
Looking at your feet wont make you ski better. Try tipping and steering. Not just pushing you heels to the side!
Looking down on the skis is kind of hard not to do once you get used to it. Bad habits so to speak are hard to break. In my book, looking at the skis is not a big deal even if it is a big NONO in ski instruction and you can never pass a level test if you do. I have traced it back to spending all summers walking bare foot and watching out for cones, stick, stones, glass, snakes etc. Actually I think robot like staring far into the distance is not as functional as looking where you are going. I watch the terrain where I ski and at the same time I look around and forwards. So far I have not run into anything or anybody other than on purpose hahaha.
What do you mean by "tipping" and by "steering". TIP - In the videos I "tip" the skis on edge by bringing my knees and hips into the turn while I angulate at hip for a leveled shoulder line and proper outside ski pressure. STEERING - In this video we learn how to CARVE, lock our edges into grooves into the snow and run along the edges with no side slipping. Not STEER. Not brushing our skis sideways over the snow. Or do you have other definitions to to TIP and STEER?
why are you skiing in shorts ??
Exellent question. And thank you for watching and leaving a comment. We use shorts when we are in our speed suits training. We often ski in out speedsuits with shorts and jackets as they are padded and gives good mobility.
Sorry Tim, but I do not really like this rule you present here. It is you who must make the edgings of the skis, so it is always you, who makes the turn, not the skis. Of course you can use the caving shape of your skis, but you must be in charge, you must prepare the ski-turns, otherwise your skis will not know what you want them to do. You have also forgotten to mention how you edge your skis. The "banana" (shoulder angulation with hip-drop) is only one way to create and increase the edge angles. There are other ways that are more basic and important. It is the differently flexed knees and the edgings by ankle movements that should be an important target of little more advanced ski-turns.
Thanks for watching the video that carefully. When you drive a car, it is not you turning the car its the car turning you. You do that normally by turning the steering wheel. Same in carving, you tip your skis on edge to make them turn. There are of course many ways of tipping your skis on edge but I have found that working primarily with your ankles and knees will not produce a good foundation for carving. You need to look at the big picture. You need to work in conjunction with your CoM. Simply tipping the skis by using your ankles and knees will disrupt your balance as your CoM remains unaltered while turn forces pull you to the outside. Dont carve like a tram. Carve like a tiger :)
Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 But your comparison is false! The mass of a car is about 10 times higher than your body-mass, so the car can turn your body. But the mass of your skis are about 10 times less than your body-mass, and so the skis cannot just turn your body easily. And the result will be that if you create too low edge angles you will only be able to pivot the skis and the skis will skid down the slope. If your edge angles are even lower you will only be able to brake, like a hockey-stop. Understand this: the skis will turn around your body during a ski-turn, even if they create the outer border of the turn of your body at the same time. But your body will never turn around your skis, because they have much less mass than your body-mass.
Also your way of thinking about your rule is dangerous for beginners and less experienced skiers, because it makes them to believe, that you can just let your skis work, you don´t have to do anything else but creating some edge angles. And this results in overloaded inside skis, harmful skidding, lost balance and so on.
About the different kind of edging. Just take a look at your video once more. You say nothing about ankle edgings or edging by the knees or edging by your whole body mass. The only edging movement you talk about is this "banana".
@@JanosKoranyi good points but.... I still think the biggest difficulty when teaching people how to carve is the urge to turn/twist the skis in the direction they want to turn.
@@Triggerboy62 Yes I agree. But why do you think, that these people are unable to edge their skis instead of pivoting them, even if you ask them to edge the skis? In my opinion it is so, because the edgings must be prepared, and if you do not tech them how to prepare, they will be unable to edge enough.
If you edge only by your body mass, creating different ski-pressures, you must make a body projection to prepare this.
If you also want to make edgings by your ankles you need a high speed or a very low distance between your skis. But intermediate skiers should refuse both these suggestions. So instead of them, you need more advanced tools, like dorsal flex of your ankles and speed modifications of your skis, pulling back your new inside ski before the edgings can be started...
The carv fine,
But why you're dressed up like hockey player? Short pants?
Kind of claunish.
Yes, sorry for that. It's just that racers need to prioritize how they spend their money. We try to have the best skis and boots and training conditions available and sometimes less focus is put on for example training pants. However, this season Chris got new shorts as a generous donation from a fellow Master ski racer Hanski. Problem solved :)
However, ice hockey is a very serious sport in our country and maybe it was a tribute to WC GOLD in 2021 ;)
And yes, we are used to look and act like clowns :)
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I am sorry, but that sentence "it's not you turning the skis, it's the skis turning you" is one of the worst thing I've ever heard in the whole ski world ever!!! Please think before you say something like this! Some people might get confused and ruin their own skiing by this statement...
Hi Franc and thank you for watching. Always glad to get response to my videos and yours is as valid as anyones. The reason it did not show up earlier was that my spam filter picked it up as "likely spam" LOL. But I want to be open and let people ventilate their thoughts even if they are other than mine. However, a discussion about it would be more productive. Maybe you could explain why you think its the worst you ever heard in the realm of skiing. I myself picked it up from the PSIA. It builds on the concept of you tipping the skis on edge while gliding forward causing the skis to start turning. Opposed to turning your feet causing your skis to pivot and skid and turn due to the friction between the edges and the snow. Both are valid but only the first one will produce a carved turn. The latter will produce a skidded turn. Like an open parallel turn. Parallel Christie. Used on pist, off pist, bumps etc. What are your thoughts?
@@Triggerboy62 Hi, all good, I didn't mean to attack you. Good, that you are trying to do some videos for people. But the sentence, that the skis are turning us, is just not right. It is always us turning the skis obviously. We are the drivers, not the passengers. To say that simple, it is always the skier making the skis turn. No matter if you turning them with your feet in to a skidded turn, or if you tilt them on edges with your ankles sideways to carve... Most of the time it is combination anyways, but It is always us doing those certain moves. If you "let the skis do the job", then you are passive skier doing nothing locked in some kind of posture. Many people do that on slalom skis - 30m radius turns...
I believe you know all this, it was just the interpretation of that sentence.
@@franchaugen4798 hahahaa I hear you. You can of course think of carving the way you do. I actually did not invent that slogan, its a PSIA slogan. But I liked it and still stand by it. But anyone can have a different opinion. Take care, Tom
Great tips!! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!