Laser Cutter for Any Skill Level - Glowforge
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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I tried preordering a few and their customer service was piss poor. Thy never provided a contact number that worked and e-mailing resulted in zero support other than the only answers being "we don't know" (when asked about how long the preorder special would run, what shipping would cost, how long until items would be shipped, maintenance options, etc). Needless to say I abandoned all hope in the task and was disappointed to find out that due to a web app, if my internet goes down then the device just becomes a paperweight (not to mention the sketchy possibility that you might need to pay to use the online app - can't be sure as no one could answer that question). My advice is let other people be the guinea pigs and make a plan for something tried, tested and lest lurk-in-the-shadows-y.
I canceled my pre-order a year ago because they kept pushing delivery back and back, and kept adding new features I wasn't looking for. I was disappointed after waiting 16 months past the kickstarter, but at least I got my money back quickly.
You can buy a MUCH more powerful, MUCH bigger, MUCH better built, NON-cloud device for HALF as much from China, and have money left over for a LOT of upgrades and consumables.
Look up "K40" and "Bluebox" laser cutters, there's a large community built around hacking and improving them.
They start at around $500 delivered, and $2000 will easily get you 200, maybe 300W of laser power.
I have mine. it works great.
My condolences for your wasted money.
cool story bro
This is cutting edge technology..
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Maybe 40 years ago.
Whoosh
Hah
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Oh look more things I can't afford
I think this about every video released by every techtuber haha
This seems more a thing that is marketing to things like Libraries and Schools and such for public use.
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You cant be that poor, if you are. I am really sorry for you. Maybe you should go think about how you could change that.
Lachlan A the thing costs 4k minimum. If you can buy this without a loan you are in the 10% of the richest , in Europe
laser... printing... I wish Glowforge didn't popularise this term. It's laser cutting. It has a cutting area.
Shouldnt they be focusing on sending units out to people who bought one YEARS ago and still haven't received them?
DELICIOUS CHOCOLATE PIE RECIPE
2 cups white sugar
5 tablespoons unsweetened cocoa powder
1/4 cup all-purpose flour
1 (12 fluid ounce) can evaporated milk
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
4 egg yolks
1/4 cup butter
1 recipe pastry for a 9 inch single crust pie
4 egg whites
1/4 cup white sugar
-Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
-In a saucepan, whisk together 2 cups sugar, cocoa and flour. Blend in evaporated milk and vanilla. Beat egg yolks, and stir into pan. Add the butter or margarine. Heat, stirring constantly just until butter is melted. Pour filling into unbaked pie shell.
-Bake in preheated oven for 35 to 40 minutes, or until pie is not "wobbly" when shaken.
-Beat egg whites until soft peaks form. Gradually add 1/4 cup sugar, beating constantly, until stiff peaks form. Spread meringue on pie.
-Return pie to oven, and bake until meringue is golden.
ENJOY!
Instructions unclear, laser cutter a penis into pie crust.
Codewow Oh fuck mate
CES looks great this year! That is a really cool Laser!
2:50 Because an air filter and a pass-through slot definitely cost an extra $4,000.00 to manufacture.
Glowforge are gonna make a lot of money from people who don't have a clue. It's cheaper to outsource it.
yeh if you have like 2 things to laser etch lol
But engineers can't wait money for prototypes they designed but built somewhere they can't get to right after the idea.
Also, outsourcing has its own risks, including control of intellectual property and quality. There are still people who prefer domestically manufactured goods.
Jonathan I have a laser and do jobs with it and you would have to buy ALOT of engraving and cutting before you could afford even $8k. My typical laser job labor is $20-$30 to do award plaques, 20 names tags is $35 + cermark if it's not anodized aluminum. Hope by "a few" your talking like 4000 name tags or award trophies. Material cost is not counted because you have to buy that too. It ends up Much cheaper to just buy it from someone with a laser unless you are doing ALOT of cutting. Places like ponoko and emachineshop or similar charge a small fortune 5-10x or more what a small family owned laser business will charge you. TBH I don't know who buys from them because it is so expensive.
Aereto Aereto outsourcing does not always mean out of the country it can just mean down the street. Most shops are willing to sign NDAs on projects if their large enough. Quality of parts in the laser cutting/engraving world is based on the files provided to the company doing the laser cutting. If you use a local shop you could get stuff done same day. Hell sometimes I do while you wait on simple jobs that the artwork is sent in ahead of time.
Having used a couple normal laser cutters, they are already easy as hell to use. Only things you need to do differently is use CorelDraw instead of an online web app and focus the laser before cutting. It's real simple.
nice now you have one
But can it print crysis?
James Grant I don’t know you might need michaelsoft binbows 96
Nope, but it can CUT crysis
How does this compare to the laser kit you guys got and spent all day playing with the mirrors?
Luke needs to drop something for once
Well, you can pay for it now, but it's still a pre-order. Their estimate is June of 2018, but I mean, they planned to ship in December 2015 originally and are still being delayed, so who knows when, or if, we'll ever actually see these things.
Zzyzx Wolfe they are just slow but we are seeing them now. I own a pro model.
I'm going to ask (read in a polite tone)....why?
For $8k you could have picked up a number of equal and or superior cutters on the used market and or built you own.
Example: buildyourcnc.com/blackToothLaserCutterAndEngraver.aspx
This kit fully loaded is $2k and has everything you need to adapt the build for multiple use cases (4'x8' setups, fixtures, ect).
I would understand if the whole time is money thing was at play, but at 4x the cost of a DIY option and 2x a used industrial cutter, I don't see the savings.
MorRobots well I didn't pay that much for it because it was cheaper during the kick starter. Also it can do more things than they talked about here that no other lasers can do. Biggest thing for me is it's hassle free. I have a diy cnc mill so I'm pretty confident I could have made a laser too but with this I took it out of the box and it just worked. My guess is they want to be like apple. Most people who buy a Mac get it because it just works and that's what this is.
I have had mine since Aug 2017
Tobiah Adam I got my unit in September.
CES is where famous techtubers come together and say hi
I love how their promotional video (glowforce) has comments disabled
1:25 it is not possible to use fibre optics with a CO2 Laser since the wavelength of a CO2 laser is different then the wavelength of for example a solid-state laser (which can use fibre optics). So using mirrors is the only possibility to direct the beam.
I am sorry but you are misinformed. A fiber can be made for different optical wavelength. Fibers that can carry CO2 laser wavelengths are very common in biomedical.
Really? Never heard that before. All the books I read and also at work I only was told you need mirrors for CO2 Lasers. Can you give me an example for such a machine? Couldn't find anything on google when I searched for CO2 Laser with optic fibres.
there is this one
www.lumenis.com/Solutions/Surgical/CO2-Products/CO2-Laser-Fibers
you can't really pick do you want to use mirrors or fiber optics, it depends on the type of laser you can put in, and that choice is a bit complicated.
2 years later and pro without air filter is just over what the basic use to cost
The pricing shown here is not what's on the glowforge site. It's actually cheaper by a few thousand. For the Pro it's not $8,000 but $6,000. For the basic it's $2,500.
For any skill level but not for every ones bank account
If the price was a -little- *lot* more consumer friendly or if I had the money I would definitely buy one. I've always wanted to put my own logos on stuff.
Equally powerful 40W laser cutters are all over eBay and Aliexpress/Alibaba.
Oh, and they're ~$400-500. And they even give you a FREE EXHAUST OPTION(a $1000 option on this piece of junk, lol).
For the price they want, you can buy an industrial, 200W+ machine that will cut thick wood and acrylic, even do lithopanes on glass.
That looks great, BUT extraction is much more important than you might think. If cutting materials that produce noxious smoke then just venting out of your window might not be enough.
Last i heard they were not shipping and its more vaporware, They have kept tight wraps on their demo units which may be overpowered compared to the actual final product. I would love for glowforge to live up to their own hype, but seeing as they are more than a year behind their original shipping date, I don't trust them.
Its not Vaporware I know because I own a pro model. They are just really slow because they are super strict with quality control.
Did you see the watch that the glowforge employee was wearing? Thats where the preorder $ went to from the kickstarter! Want a laser badly and NOW, BUY A MUSE!
BurninGems actually they never spend the Kickstarter money because they where smart and got investors before hand. If you want your money back just ask and they give it to you.
So with the two most important features I was looking for, how does it handle 1/4 inch plywood and passthrough on the pro model? Some of the rest I could give them, and for thin pieces of wood, sure, but those two were where I was very skeptical on.
Epic Sauce 1/4 hasn't been a problem for me but for what I do with it I almost never cut anything that thick. As far as the passthrough that's all in the software which they aren't done with yet so I haven't tried it out. But I will say just having it there is really nice because you can stick stuff in that's way too long without having to cut it.if you want one now the muse is great but this does have some great features. I will also say being able to engrave on curved surfaces has been amazingly easy.
I like how most of them add this "most popular" tag on the most expensive or middle priced option. Yea I believe You...
dam, the end-line when you connect the sponsor to the rest of the video is getting progressively worse.......
Love it!
Kinda glad I got mine on the initial run, works great.
1000$ for ventilation !? You can buy not one, but two AC units for that price. How can ventilation for this little device be so expensive ? Are filters made of gold ?
but does your AC unit dump the heat into your house? no it dumps it outside. laser cutters give of some seriously toxic chemicals, so its probably contains stuff more valuable than gold! (not to mention the likely 20%+ extra fee for convenience of not having to do research)
Yea 1k is redonk
+rcj0234 So, if they offered a simpler ventilation system where you had a tube that you put through a window like you do for portable AC units they could lower the cost dramatically. Or is that illegal and they MUST use expensive filters because of the chemicals ? Do those filters have to be disposed in special facilities when they are not usable anymore ?
Most of the cheaper laser cutters use a vent tube like you would find with a portable AC unit. Even more expensive ones just dump the fumes outside with ventilation piping though these are generally permanent fixtures. There are though units that act like a portable welding fume hood which uses sets of filters to extract toxins generated by the laser cutting process.
Well, that's then a problem that they even sell the 1K cheaper model that DOESN'T have that vent system. Obviously it's not all materials that release toxic fumes when laser cut/engraved, but I sure wouldn't like to be on a room with the 4K model doing acrylic.
I would guess that they forbid/don't advise you to use it with some specific materials then
*This company still hasn't shipped all their units from their crowd-funding campaign from 2.5 years ago*
This thing is really awesome. I could use something like this to engrave all my tools for work, make custom measurement tools and interesting home hobbies as well. Very exciting to see a consumer laser cutter finally hit the market.
$5000+ for a machine that only works with a cloud service? NO THANKS.
I 100% agree this web-app/service trend need to stop, especially for software that can run perfectly well on my machine .
"Oh gee, sorry costumers, but it seems you guys are too few to justify our costs of keeping servers running. Sucks to be you, enjoy your 8K paperweight or go program/deal with it"
this so much.
fuck cloud
They did promise to release offline firmware as well blog.glowforge.com/we-ll-release-a-gpl-licensed-firmware-for-glowforge/
Wait wait wait... You have to have a subscription service for the software?
I want one of these. I cant wait to start my engineering job to buy one with my first or second paycheck. That and a Prusha mk3 I3, and maybe a GMax Xt. Later on I might get a SLA and a SLS 3D printer as well. I really want my own makerspace so that any crazy idea I come up with I can develop and maybe, just maybe, start my own business from it.
I saw a laser cutter in a video and I wanted one but the price is an issue. Also I want sure if it is noob friendly. I mean I want something simple. From my side, I only want easy maintenance, like a normal printer.
3D Printing is a good thing but sometimes you need something better. Printing large objects are not cheap and you need a bigger printer. Wood is a good choice. Small details are hard to do by hand, when you're not good. I made a Hyrule Crest into a wood log and it was not easy. I didn't went that deep and even used a dremel. I made some mistakes but it still looks good. I mean you can build something that looks handmade or you can build something that looks perfect.
Did i just watch a YT-Ad, then an Ad, then a long ad and then anothet short ad?
it is fresh books man! your cloud accounting manager !
abdulrahim almethiab i just wish i could secure my internet traffic with a simple to use software :/
Ad-ception?
Just had a look and it is $1047.00 for shipping to Sweden. Even if it was within my budget I wouldn't buy one out of principle just because of shipping costs. I found some on Aliexpress that are cheaper and even have free shipping.
A more CONSUMER FOCUSSED at $8000
I guess then that I am a pretty poor consumer...
Thats extremely cheap for what it does, insane they can make them at such a competitive price
Barnacules needs this ASAP. Someone get one of these for Jerry !!!!!
Would rather have a retina smelter 9000
Some people will understand the reference
Hopefully william can make a retina smelter 10000
retina smelter 9000 was straight fire
some will understand this
it burned along with house.
it is gone now...
RIP Retina Smelter 9,000. You will be missed but you will return one day; bigger and better...
Are these things actually shipping? last info was they were sorely behind and kept pushing the date out
Well, I pre-ordered one over two years ago, asked for a refund a year ago since they kept announcing delays.
I would have still been waiting if I hadn't cancelled ...
^Same
According to their webstie they are currently shipping out the kickstarter units from their 30th day supporters (it was a 30-day kickstarter), so they would start shipping out actual non-kicksarter orders soon...?
My friends received a tracking number for his. I wasn't patient enough so I cancelled my order over a year ago.
I wasn't in the Kickstarter, I pre-ordered mine on 16th of October 2016. Not sure in what batch I should have been. It was just so disappointing to receive delay after delay, so I decided to cancel.
Also I got more experience with more high end lasers, like a trotec. Currently using a shared one in a makerspace, so I'm satisfied for now. Maybe one day I will buy one for myself.
I had this thing on preorder for nearly 2 years before I decided to cancel and get my money back. They still wouldn't have shipped it to me yet, so honestly I don't trust them anymore. There is another company that sells basically the same thing, but I'm pretty sure they can actually deliver.
I bought one of these around the 5 week mark of their preorder and still haven't gotten it...
The filter is not built into the pro version. It’s still a separate unit that goes underneath and is still not ready for the consumer. I have a pro and we received ours a few months ago without a filter as of yet. Still waiting.
if you want to do just basic etches and engravings you can buy/build one for about 200 bucks
Funny how this ‘new idea’ of it being simple is apparently a new thing.
Thank you Linus Tech Tips for being the only reviewer to mention prices. I am tired of youtubers that are too stupid to realize that is the most important part of a review...CO$T. When I first heard about Glowforge the estimates where $2000 to $3000. Well I guess Chinese lasers will continue to be first buying choice for the rest of us.
Just like 3D printers; it is $8000 now, but will be under $1000 in a couple years.
Danyal A. They will drop in price but not that much. Laser cutters have been around for a lot longer than 3D printers, the price on them stabilised a long time ago. This one is overpriced but has a lot of new features that Luke did not mention... It also sounds like a lot of these new features are not working yet.
More use cases, more manufacturers, more supply, lower price. I would expect it to be $4000 or less in 5 years.
You can buy a slightly less feature-rich machine, with the same or more powerful laser tube, a more robust mechanical system, proper ventilation(and exhaust that isn't a $1000 extra option) for around ~$500 on eBay or Ali(express or baba, doesn't matter).
Just search for "40W CO2" or "100W CO2", and so on.
They've been around for years.
Luke...you can't use fiberoptics with CO2 lasers... The 10μm wavelength would be absorbed in those
You are not William Osman >:v
He could use one of these
I work with laser cutters daily that can melt through 25mm (1 inch) thick steel like it's butter. This is child's play
you could probably get all the features of the pro version for the price of the mid tier if you did the mods yourself on the low tier!
luke from floatplane
My mom actually just bought the Glowforge Pro. Talk about a mid life crisis.
Some of the features seem cool but this is a severely underpowered laser. 45 watts means that you will be limited on the material that you can use. Pretty sure that thing will have trouble with 1/4" and thicker acrylic. I woodman with the Trotec Speedy 300,and while it's way more expensive, it's more flexible with what you can do with it.
I would like to design and make watch pointers/hands. This is ofcourse very tiny. Is the glowforce precise enough? It would need to be 0,1mm differences.
so cutting edge
Umm... Buy CNC mill (Like shapeoko 3 or x-carve) and buy a laser to replace the router... just bit cheaper and you have a cnc mill as well. Just my thoughts on the mater
Mine is scheduled for delivery next week, can't wait!
I love the outro👌👌👌
Not for your home, but it is very appealing to architecture & engineering schools.
Does it work on wrists too ?
What music sources does the stepper motor support? And does it have Alexa support? It would be great to say Alexa play Ode to Joy on the Glowforge.
WOW!!!! Freshbooks add front and back of video ...unreal
Hey it’s Luke from floatplane
jacky li Yeah, with that outro we're very sure he's a Float Plane guy
Speaking of which, we are waiting for the part 2 of that Holy Sh!t about doing your own Laser cutter
Thanks for covering a laser cutter! Very refreshing!
And so, the recruitment began.
I'll probably buy one
Fiber optics are not the way to go. They don't work as well for infrared as for visible light, and after the light comes out it's no longer that nice collimated beam.
10.4um fibres exist, but they're not cheap and not really useful at this power level.
They're used for much larger machines, where you have many, many diode stacks with knife-edge combiners and a long delivery cable to a large cutting head(say, 5x5m cutting area).
Speaking of which what about yours
Oh hey, they just bought this for their workshop lmao.
Thanks Freshbooks
Pretty awesome. I have no clue what I would use it for but for some reason I want one lol.
All well and good, but glowforge have a horrible reputation for not delivering their product to people that have paid for it
Is there a laser cutter/engraver that is much cheaper than this?
(its fine if its harder to use/slower)
We love our Glowforge, it was worth the wait!
Have they started shipping by now?
I was about to order one but told myself to wait until they ship and that took forever
Time for another installment of sketchy heat sink.
I love ur vids linus
If you wan't a laser engraver/cutter and you came to this video because your researching glowforge, let me give you some good advice. Buy a used industrial unit and or build your own from a good kit. Glowforge is over priced for what it is. Everything Glowforge is designed to do is easily achieved by a little bit of research and or practice by the use. Chances are you want one for a small business or serious hobby, trust me a used industrial unit and or a good kit build will be well worth it. If you do a kit build, you will also learn a lot about the unit and can service anything that can go wrong and or modify the unit to meet you particular use case. The only issue I have with Glowforge is the price point, it was intended to be a consumer level product yet has been priced at professional levels. At the current price offerings, its not worth the money.
Nice cutter!!!! I need one @ home!
40 watt range! What out for skynet taking over this machine!
I've considered one of these, but I don't want to buy something for $8000 which will turn into a brick if the manufacturer ceases to trade and the Internet service stops. Processors are dirt cheap nowadays and the logic should be built into the machine.
Just bought it.
How long until my House burns down now?
:(
ask william osman
Dis is good, just think a few years ago 3d printers that any jo blo could use where easily a few thousand dollars, now you can get them for a couple hundred.
Nice. I love me a good laser cutter
I just imported a 120w laser direct from China.....$5000 delivered to my garage. work area 1300mm X 900mm, will cut and engrave without taking 4 hours, has pass through so it is more like 1300mm X Inifinity (and it wasn't a $2000 upgrade LMFAO) and before anyone says anything, importing a laser into the US means it HAS to pass FDA laser safety guide lines. But people still fall for these hyped kickstarter things because it will supposedly do some fancy what not with its barcode reader and cameras......lmao, if you are spending 8k on a 40w laser you probably shouldn't be buying a laser.....stick with your cricut machine and collection of rubber scrapbooking stamps
i am honestly really confused about luke's work... Is he employed in ltt? is he not? if i recall he said in a wan show that he was leaving... and in a video of another company he apeared there working, i am comfused, plz send help
1:25 you can't use fiberoptics with a co2 laser.
Why is webapp and advantage? It just means that if the company goes under, my device is useless (unless somebody cracks it, then it means it will probably have very limited software support), if the company is sold, my device could become useless or lose some functionality, if my internet goes down, same thing.
None of this is user friendly or non-professional friendly.
These videos look better than the normal ones!!!
Lots of moneyz, great, i rather just order some custom work it's way cheaper but in the
long run for small specific projects might worth it for some people, but i'm out :D.
why a web app tho? is it a subscription?
Ackara they wanted to make it as easy to use as possible and they wanted you to be able to use it from your phone or laptop with no cables. Its fine if you have WiFi but that's the only downside. I own a pro model.
Still hasn't shipped out the original 30 day preorders, still has fundamental functionality missing from the software (no 3d autofocus like was described in the video, STILL no passthrough support for the pro). Camera tracing and alignment, a FUNDAMENTAL FEATURE DESCRIBED IN THE ORIGINAL VIDEO, still does not work well beyond dead center of the bed.
for 8k, you can get a half dozen other far more professional laser cutters from rabbit laser, full spectrum laser, redsail, etc.
who is this guy CLEARLY NOT WORKING FOT LMG???
For $8,000 you'd imagine that shipping is free, not an extra $175
What was the handbag covered in blood for?
Mirror is standard for laser cutter, not really common thing to see fiber I think?
I have this, and it's pretty good. Anxious to see what happens with the software for V2
Why you only lying....
imgur.com/gallery/aOTon
Nice virus.