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- Road trip time again - this time in a Tesla Model 3 - can I make it from Minnesota to Wyoming to Visit Yellowstone National Park with some friends?
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Legend says you're still trying to drive through that stretch of 2 lane road through the forest.
I keep finding patches of leftover 3G to post replies... don't give away my secret!
Thanks for taking us along for the ride! I always thought it was weird that charge stations have nothing next to them... not even a vending machine
Right - seems like an opportunity!
I’m totally cracking up when you show the wipers just going once… on a dry windscreen!!! Sooooo Tesla!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahah
I'm only a little happier that it wasn't just me.
I just bought a model 3 a couple of days ago. I'm loving it.
Now to figure out where to put a dual band antenna at.
I'm putting a FT-8800r in it.
73
W8TLS
I've seen people use a lip mount where the windshield meets the hood. That would be my first attempt.
Great video, well composed, LOVED the windshield wiper device employed throughout...and agree with your point of view 100%
Thanks Saav!
A few points: adjusting mirrors ,according to the law, should be done while the car is parked, the masses do not have your life style of hitting the open road, the masses drive an average of 40 miles per day, all those nagging sounds ca be turned off if thats the way you like it, pressing the button on the charging cable opens the charging port, for charging you dont have to use only Tesla superchargers, its true they are the most dependable but there are other decent options out there. I liked the video, didnt like the title. Oh and EV haters refrain from commenting on this post, i enjoy both worlds, electric and gas.
Welcome Marc! This was purposefully a "blind" test. The only prep I did was "asking" tesla if I could make it and they said yes... as a full-time tesla owner you'd have many more options, but I have to say that the "non-supercharger" routing should have been on by default knowing that there are limited supercharger options in 2024.
Thanks for watching. I'm not an EV hater, but as you stated, they aren't for every lifestyle and I'm an edge case.
Good video. Almost every frustration you had would be eliminated within a couple of weeks of ownership. Just different than traditional cars. I eliminated all the lane keeping stuff that made the steering wheel vibrate and yelled at you when you change lanes without a signal on about day 2. But if the Tesla didn't have a gps or cell signal, neither would your cell phone I assume, so that's a problem for anybody who isn't familiar with the area. We have made several road trips (2000 miles or more) with our car and have become better at planning to reduce any stress. I prefer the car now but it takes some getting used to.
I was able to turn some of the stuff off, but personally have a problem turn off features that I paid for. I'd rather buy a car that didn't have them and use that money for something else.
Google maps will allow you to download maps and navigate in offline mode - and the original GPS systems didn't even have a concept that "online" would ever be a thing. I guess the software engineers are young 🤣🤣
There are more places to charge an EV than places to fill up an ICE with gas. Every house has a 240v outlet somewhere, overnight charging every day, with a few adapters and extension cord you're set. My wife and I took a 6400 mile road trip from CA to TN and back in our 2020 Model 3 Performance and it was a very pleasant experience. Let the car do the trip planning, charge a bit longer than it says if you might diverge from plans. Never had an issue, autopilot was nearly perfect, way more relaxing than other cars I've road tripped. (And I've done a lot of road tripping) I'm super satisfied with this car, the things that are different I've embraced and learned and appreciate. And I'm an old guy! 🙂 Lately, when I show FSD to friends their minds are blown and the acceleration shock is fun too. 🙂 I love all kinds of cars, got more than a few here, but my EV Tesla is my favorite.
If it was my car, I would have gotten all of the adapters for the trip... outside of that, I just plugged the address into the Tesla software and let it route... until it ran out of internet and that was where I got unhappy... the world has known about offline maps and rural areas forever. The rental didn't come with adapters and I wasn't about to buy them for the guy.
You can use your cell phone as a hotspot (yes that’s assuming it has reception too) for the map. You can also enable basically a google map view on it so it’s not a simple black and white map.
Zero cell service in the park. The moment I drove away from wifi, it forgot the route.
Interesting video, well made. I just learned that Tesla has offline map, but it doesn't contain ALL location names, just Addresses. So if you know the address of that National Park destination, then it can navigate fine with the offline map.
This is 2024... I'm too lazy to write down an address 🤣
Don't charge so much. The car's not telling you that you must charge. Clearly, you can discharge all the way to two percent because you did. I rarely go much below 20% in my Bolt EV, and I don't charge beyond 80% on road trips, and I've taken many road trips though never as long as yours. A half hour stop along the way is not a terrible burden. It's arguably a benefit after three hours behind the wheel. If I drove from Minnesota to Wyoming often, I wouldn't drive an EV but my Bolt (which charges much more slowly than a Tesla) is fine for 300 mile road trips.
Practically the entire video is a review of the charge planning app. It seems to suck. I don't know. I've never driven a Tesla. I use PlugShare with my Bolt. It only tells me where the stations are, and I plan my stops on a trip before I leave home. Works fine. If the Tesla app sucks, don't use it, but you didn't give me any reason to hate an EV or even a Tesla beyond this app. Pay less for an EV without the app, and you'll be fine.
I can't disagree with you - I rented it to try it out, the biggest issue along the trip was the charging - outside of that it "did the thing". I'm learning about options in the charging app and honestly, those should have been suggested/turned on by default.
Like when I use google maps it gives me choices for different routes by default - and it downloads offline maps. I'd like for the tesla to say "16 hours with superchargers or 17 hours with AnyChargers".
Especially when the car went into "panic" mode and didn't think I'd make it.
Thanks for stopping by, appreciate the comment.
Your Pano at Theodore Roosevelt NP was of lower quality. Still beautiful though. Your driving through the trees kept popping up, it started to make me laugh. Thanks for the stunning drive.
The windshield wipers kept coming on at random times on sunny days all throughout the trip... I wanted to share that experience as well. Thanks for watching!
If I never see the inside of a model 3 with the wiper on while going through the forest again, it will be too soon.😂
You and me both! The wipers just came on all the time for no reason.
It could be interesting to rent a Honda Prologue or Acura ZDX because they use built Google to plan trips. Since it syncs to your Google account all your preferences and destinations come on over which is a convenience.
Both of those vehicles are far quieter than that Model 3 you rented and both are set up for light towing, 3500 lb in the case of the ZDX. They also don’t suffer from all the weird things Tesla people love and everyone else just scratches their heads over.
Next Trip I'll look into it!
Awesome video! it was fun listening and you acknowledging some of your biases.
I'll probably never get a tesla for the same reasons but theyre good cars for some people
Thanks! It was a fun experience at the very least.
I plan to get a portable fridge and pack my own food so I don't have to also waste time going to a restaurant after charging.
That's a great idea! I use one in my regular car when traveling.
Have one in my MS.....all stocked. Refreshing and reduces stop times if you're in a hurry.
I mostly agree with your assessment. However, I completely disagree on the road-trip-ability of the car. Once you learn the car, particularly the right charging habits, you're golden (hint: you almost never need to charge to 100%). I've done several long trips in my Model X and 3, most recently a 4000 mile trip from FL to CO last summer.
I've also had it many times in remote camping areas and had no problem with the GPS mapping/navigation so maybe your rental was glitching.
I'd personally rather not road-trip in anything but an EV. Kudos for trying it!
4000 mile trip from FL to CO will will need many hours of time *wasted* at the chargers. So inconvenient.
@@DerekDavis213that’s very true, but if your goal is to enjoy your trip, you will appreciate the stops.
@@josephjoestar515 A Camry Hybrid will let you enjoy the the trip even more, and appreciate the stops even more.
Camry goes 630 miles on a tank of gas, then just 5 minutes to refill the tank. Camry doesn't have to search for a special supercharger. Gas stations are everywhere.
@@DerekDavis213 Yes, but then you're diving a shitty Camry.
@@SpottedSharks Camry has a much higher build quality and paint job, compared to Tesla.
Camry has a much nicer interior, a full dashboard, and a Turn Signal Stalk.
Camry has a *MUCH* longer range than Tesla. No range anxiety ever, in a Camry.
Great review. Super car if you only need to go to the gym, work and grocery shopping on the way home. Thanks. (You'd think it would use freaking Starlink since it works everywhere...???)
Thank! 100% agree!
That was a good video! I liked your honest assessment of the TESLA. I also liked the 'production quality' of your video. btw -- I am a Tesla owner and 'love' the vehicle but I understand that a Tesla is not for everyone.
If I was an experienced tesla owner the "problems" I had could have been avoided for sure - also if I had paid for the charge adapters myself, I could have charged on my friends gas powered generator at camp but that kind of defeats the whole purpose? Thanks for the kind words and for stopping by!
lesson learned. Get the long range model if traveling long distance, and use non-tesla chargers if need be. Or check the map for tesla chargers in-between.
I wish the map would tell you about non-tesla chargers in an 'emergency' even if you haven't turned on the option, where-ever it is.
@@livingforalivingRV Hun, its called planning when going on a road trip. It takes 10 seconds.
@@silvy7394 I let my MS plan the trip.....I'm surprised that my Supercharger stops are so short....15-20 min, but when the car is low, the Supercharger runs at the highest speed.....in and out fast. Planner has been the greatest. Never needed a non-supercharger for long trips, but my Long range has more miles. If you travel trips, just get the correct car with more miles. Too bad that decision wasn't made first here.
@silvy7394 Hun, looks like you missed the mission outlined in the video. Aside from there, the part where I mentioned that Tesla's provided tools told me it would be perfectly fine - you know, pre-planning.
@@livingforalivingRV Hun, looks like you missed the mission. We wasn't talking about pre-planning. We was talking about planning your trip while its ongoing.
You can control the car with your voice.All you need to do is press the right steering wheel button and say "I'm Hot". the car will turn on the AC and turn it down 3 degrees. Say "I'm Cold" the car will turn the heat up 3 degrees. Say "wipers on 2" the wipers will turn on at speed 2................... Say "Open Glove Box" the Glove box will open. There's dozens of voice commands so you never need to take your hands off the wheel or eyes off the road. There's a learning curve with these cars. Once you've driven a Tesla a few months, driving any other car will seem old fashioned. We gave our ICE car a new name "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" !
I played with the voice commands until I ran out of internet and they stopped working and then I forgot they existed. I'm sure this is a great car when its connected all the time - that type of envronment solves a ton of problems that I experienecd.
Model Y rwd gets 360 miles. I have a 270 mile model 3 and drive everywhere.
She made it out and back, but could have done a better job for sure.
@@livingforalivingRV you could've done too. Charging above 90% is simply ridiculous. Literally every driver recommends to not charge above 80% on long-distance road trips, as the charging slows down the full of the battery gets.
@@Not123Or I only charged above 90% when the trip to "bed" and back to charger was 102 miles and I might have wanted to go (anywhere else) while at Yellowstone. "Driver recommends" - but shouldn't the car tell you "full" is 80% and then you have "reserve" above that... how many people consider their gas cars "full" when they reach 80% at the pump? It a paradigm shift for sure and the knowledge hasn't reached the masses. Maybe its in the owner's manual, but that wasn't the mission I set forth to accomplish in the video. (That mission: "Can a complete newb make it on a roadtrip to a very remote location in an EV without much/any prior knowledge of how EV's work")
I'm sure it all gets better as you own the car longer and longer.
FYI the first charger you pulled into is for vehicles with trailers. You should back into one if you ever get the chance again.
Makes sense! I liked those the best. They weren't at all charging stations. If I knew they were for trailers that would have added to the fun.
I give this video about 2 more days before youtube takes it down for disparaging EV. Agreed with everything you said. Everyone I've ever heard speak highly of driving a Tesla never left civilization. Hard pass for now. Maybe in 10 years we'll be there.
Hey Mike!
Too bad you didn’t have the ability to charge at that campground. We charge our EV at electric sites and it’s pretty common practice. The key is having the right adapters and being able to adjust the charge rate down so that you’re being friendly to the electric circuit. Even if it’s only 110 V it’ll do a decent job refilling the pack if you’re camping for a couple days.
That would have been wonderful!
@@livingforalivingRV the same goes for being able to charge an EV at home. It’s both more convenient and generally cheaper to use 110 or 240 home chargers. You always wake up each morning with whatever state of charge you desire and in the vast majority of use cases for commuting that serves people very well and they spend essentially 5-10 seconds a day charging because that’s about how much extra time it takes to plug in your car when you park it.
There are a few things that I saw that you did oddly and some things you may not think clearly about.
1. Why did you set the charge limit to 100%? That car should push down automatically to 80% and you have to adjust it up to 100%. The time to charge is to the limit, but as you saw in one part you showed us, the time to continue the trip.
2. The arguing about the nanny. That is NOT a Tesla thing. That is actually a 2020ish and newer car thing. Those cameras that nag you for changing langes without a turn signal, those things that vibrate the hell out of the wheel when it senses you are drifting . . . those are in Ford, Chevy, Tesla, Porsche, Toyota, etc. They are there to help with those that are dozing when driving, and . . . drunk driving.
3. Charging locations vary by region. In CA, FL and CO, I have seen them at gas stations and malls. In Utah, I have seem them at office parks, food places and gas stations (Go GO Bever, UT!) In AZ, I have seen them at gas stations, food courts, and hotels. In NM, I have seen them in gas stations, and malls. In NV and CA, I have seen them at casinos as well! The issue you are describing is how these are built out. Tesla follows the same concept of gas stations. They want the prime spot just right off the highway. Now, they run into the issue of, is there real estate there that people will lease to them? And the next issue . . . dude, seriously, learn to back up. You have a camera, go back an extra foot.
4. The nav system is by no means perfect. It is a constant set of bugs be swatted away. You are correct, it does use cellular to get all the data and thus if you have no service, the car will not either. BUT, as you admitted, you shoulda, but didn't . . . :) One thing we have learned to do with the nav system is to put in the final destination. So if we are on a long road trip, we know what hotel we are going to that night, just put it in. Now, if we want to stop somewhere in between, put in that as 'add a stop.' Keep doing that for all the locations you want to stop at and that Yellowstone situation goes away :) The other thing that Tesla does NOT know is if where you are going is where you are going to charge! The nav system does more than just download a map. As it is a routing system, it works kind of like Waze in that it has traffic information, accident information, road closure information. So if you are 5 miles from an accident, it will re-reoute you to avoid it. That is what you can not download.
5. Learn about Tesla voice commands. Once you do that, all your complaints about 'looking' will go away. Honestly, I think it is something that is rarely talked about.
Now, you are correct about one thing, you are a slave to the charging network(s). But you are also a slave to the gas pump in an ice vehicle. There just happens to be more gas pumps out there for commercial use. But, ironically, there are more charge ports in the world by far than there are gas pumps. Think I am crazy? EVERY power outlet is a charge port. It may not charge as fast as you want, but if you took that car to a camp site that had a plug, if it was 110, you would get about 3-4 miles per hour charging. If it was a 220 outlet, you will get 30-40 miles per hour charging. That kinda kills the need for a gas station :) At a campground, if you are parked for 8-10 hours, you are leaving at 100% if you start at 2%. Something that you can't do in an ICE vehicle.
Thanks for watching:
1. The charge limits were set by the owner, I just followed the nav instructions until I almost got stranded at the park. That's when I did a full charge because it was 3.5hrs out of my way to charge up. After the park I learned that I need to tell the nav one additional stop to keep everything happy.
2. 100% agreed that its not unique to Tesla, maybe it didn't come across, but I don't like it in any car. I agree that its anti-drunk, but I'd submit its probably texters also. If we solve the human problem, humans find another problem instead of skilling up.
3. Regarding the backup camera - it sucked. It always yelled at me to STOP way before needed. I reversed into the parking space "properly" on more than one occasion and the cable didn't reach. That's on the designers of the system(s) in play... if you back into the parking spot and you're balanced between the lines and the cable doesn't reach... that's pretty stupid.
4. I learned to put in the destination AFTER the final destination. It should evolve for sure, and I have faith that they will.
5. Voice commands don't work without internet connection. I used them at first, then once they were unavailable I completely forgot about them.
I agree that everything is a charging port if you're patient enough... Yellowstone had zero electricity available to the campers and I (not being the owner of the car) didn't buy the adaptor to donate to the owner.
It was a fun trip, but I think that humans are losing skills every time something gets made/invented to solve their "problems". We should make stepping stones to bigger problems to solve... not to ways to lose our way. (not a Tesla specific problem)
Why wouldn't you rent a long range version? Not only would you have much more range but the long range charges much faster.
The renter didn't specify the version and the vin decoder I found online didn't know the car existed... also newb experience on purpose. I was totally in it for the adventure - whatever that might have been. Fully prepared to not make it to Yellowstone and "learn the lesson". Apparently there are options to allow non-supercharger stations, but they were disabled/not apparent to the "newb"
@@livingforalivingRV looked like a beautiful trip nonetheless. I agree with many of your niggles complaints but most of those features can just be turned off and you can get simple aftermarket devices like “sexy buttons” to dress things like the mirrors.
@leafnutz2341 Next trip!
I'm guessing the Corndog was NOT $18 right?
Correct!
We’re coming up on a similar situation needing a road trip back to Kansas from VA. Do you have a total cost on charging this car for your trip?
$249.85 for the "fuel" - EV fuel-up is cheap. $321.12 for 892 additional miles
Never go to the dark side!
Right! I had my fill.
I haven't watched the video, and tbh, I probably won't, but based on the name of the video: im sorry you didn't like it, I hope you find a car that you love(and hopefully it's an EV). Best of luck
Thank you - your comment is very refreshing and welcoming. I did mention there are good parts about the car. The problems I have are because I went way off-grid and the tesla isn't an off-grid car.
@@livingforalivingRV definitely a fair issue. I hope EVs can get there in the future, but theyre not there yet.
We have a Renault Zoe, tiny, quirky, VERY French electric car. It's mostly for my wife to run around town doing town stuff. It's perfect. It's also OK on long trips but England is not the USA and a long trip here is only a couple of hundred miles! I would not have a Tesla, because Elon. Lots of choice for electric driving in Europe, I would not go back to an ICE car.
I am hopeful they get better/more useful as time goes by. It was a fun trip and I learned a lot.
@@livingforalivingRV It's surprising how many people who have never driven an EV tell me mine is useless and they won't get one.
I was surprised to learn that some people don't know that EV's don't take gas... and then I remembered: humans.
Did you put it in Ludicrous Speed and get to plaid mode? It was a learning trip. 73
This car didn't have any of the fun upgrades... A shame.
Next time don't do everything wrong and it will go more smoothly.
Thanks for the advice!
Mommy, why does that nice man in the Tesla have a portable generator in the trunk?
I saw that video. The generator couldn't keep up. He left it running overnight when the car was parked too.
Because he's making a stupid video.
Menu system by Yeasu.
Right!?
2 of my brothers own a Tesla. One is awaiting delivery of the cybertruck. But they both live in the SF Bay Area so there are a lot of charging stations. Me, I live in the country so no thanks.
I'm with you! I wouldn't mind a stripped down race car model for fun, but no outlet for that right now.
You don't have electricity in the country?
@leafnutz2341 - not at Yellowstone
Questions from someone who has and still drives a 2008 (180k) and a 2012 (120k) vehicles. Will anyone be driving their 2024 Tesla in 2036 much less 2040? Wondering time wise how much longer your road trip in the ev vs fossil? But it looks like the “fuel” cost may have been significantly less? But road trips are the best thanks for taking us on the ride! Lot of pine trees on your route right?
I currently have a 99 and an 08, I prefer older cars with less broken tech. I don't think any of these EVs have lasted longer than gassers. My record is over 400k original motor (the odo broke). I'm waiting to see an EV with high mileage and it's original battery at 20+ years.
@@livingforalivingRV I’d place a wager that likely hood is pretty close to 0%
Yeah, I am not quite sure I would bet any modern car to last that long, but sure, we can focus on the EVs as the issue. Mileage for EVs is not the problem, as well documented by now, but the age might be, there's just not any EVs older than 15 years out there.
why would a 2024 Tesla not drive in 2036 if the Teslas from 2012 are driving in 2024?
@@badbasic What about the EV-1 and the Insight? they should be about 30 years old now.
Somehow I think the Tesla is not the issue here. Just saying...lol
Thanks for watching - Honest question: Do you think an inexperienced EV driver should arrive at a programmed destination without the ability to leave it with on-board "intelligent" mapping?
I'm mainly speaking to the "generational knowledge" that a gas station is pretty much always within "low fuel alert" range of a gas vehicle... 100% agreed: we have become soft for sure. I solved the problem, but either go all the way with the tech or don't go at all... having zero mapping and knowing you won't make the destination is unacceptable in 2024 - the car should have come from the factory with a default set of maps. (like all modern gas cars do) Maps that work offline and have update-ability as time goes on.
Don't get me wrong either, I hate modern gas cars because of the broken software in them as well. Next time I'm renting a Viper -- with no software.
One should not pay extra for broken software.
@@livingforalivingRVI think the Tesla tried to warn you, but you ended your trip and restarted. Many times I navigate to a campground it is out of range of superchargers, but I plug into the RV outlets and fill my car back up. The car doesn't know if you are going to charge at your destination or not.
@@ModestMuse3 I agree it tried to warn me, but it didn't have any less information when I started the trip, when I got the "error" and when I re-started navigation. If it was a "real" issue (which it later turned out to be), the truth would never have changed throughout the trip. My biggest/only complaint is about bad software - as a long time developer of software, things like that really bug me because they are easily noticed, should have been planned for and after 12 years of tesla dev (or 20+ years of navigation dev, or 40+ years of range dev) should have been noticed by at least one of the drivers/devs/qa/dealers/techs/sales/etc. Its not just tesla either, its all over.
@@livingforalivingRV Oh, the joys of modern technology! It's like we've traded our trusty old maps for a treasure hunt, where the treasure is a working charger, and the map is... well, kind of a suggestion.
As for whether an inexperienced EV driver should end up at their programmed destination only to realize they can't leave? That sounds like the plot twist in a bad horror movie: "Escape from Charge Station Zero."
You’re right about the generational knowledge. With gas cars, you know that when that little "low fuel" light comes on, there’s probably a gas station around the corner or just down the road. It's almost a comforting reminder that you’re never too far from help. But in an EV, when that battery meter starts dipping into the danger zone, it feels a bit more like playing a high-stakes game of "Will I Make It?"
It's 2024, folks! We’ve got AI that can write poetry, cars that can (sort of) drive themselves, and yet we’re still facing the digital equivalent of getting lost in the woods because someone forgot to pack the compass. The car should indeed come with a built-in, up-to-date map that doesn’t require a connection to the internet gods. This is the basic stuff - like making sure your fancy new smartwatch can still tell the time when your phone dies.
I completely get your frustration. You shouldn’t have to pay extra for a navigation system that’s about as reliable as a paper map in a rainstorm. And I love your solution: renting a Viper with no software. Sometimes you just want a car that goes vroom without all the extra beeps, boops, and potential meltdowns.
And yes, there's a certain appeal to the simplicity of a car like a Viper with minimal software, but the benefits of advanced technology, when implemented correctly, can greatly enhance the driving experience. Hopefully, EV manufacturers will continue to improve these systems to meet the expectations of all drivers.
Hey Mark, its very refreshing to see somebody fully understand the video. I see a lot of others with confirmation biases in the comments. You're response was refreshing.
This is why I bought an EV6 over a Tesla.
I have been really happy to see the improvements/growth of Hyundai/Kia over the years. Its coming up on time for a new small/econo car company to make an entry level no frills car now.
Wow, I'm surprised... you never struck me as the Musk Derangement Syndrome type.
I think you missed the point of the video
Having been an EV driver for seven years I can tell that you are a new EV driver. Most of your problems stem from driving a Tesla though. A proper car would probably make your experience much better.
100% agree. Also the destination is an older campsite that doesn't have electric hookups at all, let alone EV chargers.
@@livingforalivingRV That's real camping 😎
if Elon only owned a satellite based high speed, Internet provider, he could solve the problem you had…
See... you get it! Also storage is really really cheap these days, no reason it couldn't have downloaded the entire US highway system and all kinds of chargers.
Is it a Model 3 Long Range? They have games you can play on your car monitor ;) I am looking at a Model 3 Long Range or a Ford Mach-E. The Model 3 I want to get used.
They have a few models and not much badging, the renter didn't say what model this one was.
Go with the Tesla. I have gone from Houston to Orlando and back without issues. Best car I have ever owned.
@@That-Guy_ I am watching Brooks Holt's VLOG channel which is a behind the scenes of his mini golf channel. He drives all over the country and has a Tesla Model 3. He has been documenting his journey. He really likes his which is why I am leaning towards the Tesla. My boss bought a Mach-E and really enjoys it but I am torn because I don't really know the eco system of a non Tesla.
@@don_n5skt
You can get an adapter for the Mach E that will let you use a portion of the Tesla Supercharger network. I really like the Tesla phone app as I can look at the security cameras, location and turn on the A/C so I never get into a hot car again. Not sure if Ford has that. My Model 3 rwd is better now than the day I got it because of the free software updates as well.
@@don_n5skt Something to note, the CEO of Ford himself as said that their EVs are not good...
How does billing work for supercharging when you're renting it on turo?
The rentor sends an invoice at the end of the trip. I very much went over my allotted miles, but checked in ahead of time and paid up on the back-side.
Ha ha Nova traffic
I don't miss it!
At 2:30 the Tesla screen reports 416 mi/hour charge rate. That is highly misleading, as the charge rate slows down dramatically as the battery is charged.
Exactly - but that's how a normal battery charges as well - the closer to full, the harder it is to shove more in there.
It's not "misleading" as it's just a translation of the charge rate from kW to mph according to EPA consumption. I guess it's there to give people a better understanding of what "charging with 137kW" means in terms of driving distance.
Total agreement, not a long distance vehicle. My Mother has a Model Y in Florida she just goes to grocery store and Dr. office.
Works great for her. The car is FUN to drive. Would I have one, no.
I enjoy road trips in my Tesla. Houston to Orlando and back no issues.
It was fun, but after 5 solid days BIC, the fun wore off.
Two big cities, and lots of urban between. I've made that drive. Would be no problem. The 102mi round trip from the campsite to the nearest charging station was a problem.
Camry Hybrid is a long distance vehicle.
630 miles on a tank of gas, then just 5 minutes to refill the tank. Gas stations are everywhere.
Entire West coast - LA to Seattle road trip - easy peasy. You are allowed to manage and customize the settings - not to mention think for yourself. Your total lack of knowledge and preparation is entirely on you. I’d take the same trip and have zero problems. Clearly came into the endeavor with an agenda.
Big beautiful country out there! No EV's for me! Nope! No way! I'll be the only one (besides you) with a gas vehicle one day.
Windshield wipers use battery. Applying emergency brake and off use battery. Everything on the car uses battery. Ugh!
Try running the heater!
Why didn't you rent a Ferrari Supersport and try it at rocky offroad trip? Then you can complain, how bad is the vehicle. Electric cars are for the city, for people who driving to work 3km / 25 minutes, with average speed 6km/h. Then, there is a point to have electric vehicle, just for "jumping" in heavy traffic. If you go trans-European tour, rent grand tourer. 20 years old BMW can make it with 5.5 L/100km. And not need to make "horrible" video how EV's are "horrible".
I am driving 3Km/25 minutes trip to work, 4 times a day, with lunch break. It's really painful to feel all that gears, hydrodynamic clutches, pistons and turbo pumps, how they are moving my car 2-3 m to the next car back, stop & go, again, again. I want EV for this !!!
I love old BMWs... At the end of the video I did mention that the EV would have been amazing for urban life. Honestly driving from MN to WY shouldn't be out of range of a charger, they've had over a decade to make progress on charging stations/technology and now that the governments are trying to force us to go with EVs, they are going to need to see the problems that need to be solved before requiring adoption - especially at their own facilities.
The "driver assist" features are on the 1984 model.
It's happening!
You think all that is fun; wait till the battery goes dead and you have to find the emergency door handle to open the door.
The emergency door release is just below the open button. Also why would you let it go dead?
@@That-Guy_ you will be surprised at how many people let their Tesla go dead and are in the car when it happens . Not knowing that the emergency door release is right where you said it is. They freak and call 911 for help. We have had 4 calls in the past couple of months of this happening.
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Some people are lacking brain cells. I have never worried about my Tesla going dead, I pay attention.
I did some research before the trip - some people don't know that Tesla's don't take gas. These people vote.
Total agreement with your assessment.
Thanks Larry!
Nice video of your trip. Now you understand why so many people do not like tesla . YES too much tech is a problem. A good solar storm and your stuck. Ant it is too easy for someone to track you and know all you are doing. NOT for me ! I like the EV I have now. Just a battery gauge and normal scooter stuff. The Electric golf cart is fun as well. Keep it simple.,less to BREAK ! I like EV's and know a lot about them. but Tesla not for me. Too much into my private life . I go camping with my girlfriend to disconnect from the world. The EV I use now have a battery disconnect switch . Tech is great but we have a problem. We dependent on it too much ! When SHTF so many lost . I want to go to Yellowstone with my girlfriend for the hot springs and mud bath . Just turn off electronics and enjoy . You could charge from Chuck RV Generator if you had the cord. I can see getting charged extra because of a bathroom break . and the call having a fit because you took too long in bathroom. The trip was great. The car not so great !! 73
Right on all accounts!
I'm a busy guy. I can't waste time, waiting for a stupid car to charge up. 🤨
Idk why you would rent an EV. Always rent a gas/hybrid (at least until charging performance improves).
Agreed, but where's the adventure in that?
It saves you time on oil change, spark plug, brake pad, transmission oil change. oh and Gas station and emissions test.
The modern world sucks. Thank you for showing me the wisdom of my distaste for EVs. By the way, I hate your cars radar setting off my police radar detector.
Why don't you like EVs? I love mine.
Luckily it's not my car - can't blame me.
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So don't buy one, No one cares.
Good idea! Thanks for watching!
I dont care
Thanks for watching!
ROAD TRIP
My Man is ON IT!
@@livingforalivingRV ARE WE THERE YET 😂 People that never had children will never savor those words 👋
I taught my kids early on: "Is the car still moving? then we must not be there yet" and they stopped asking.
@@livingforalivingRV all of yours are down south , looked like the ones you made the radio video with wasn’t old enough to be cut loose yet , may have been an old video 👍
@@cornbread-KO5RN Its an old video... I got 3 grand kids now.
Those cars are horrible.
I disagree, after 100k miles driven my performance model 3 is the best car I've ever owned. By a wide margin. Including 263 km/h on German Autobahn.
Thanks for watching!