This is my friend's second Kindle. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOnUR4NaproSbBbD2sdI4XcDZ58Jz8GOx The first one which is about 5 or 6 years old quit charging because the bottom connector went bad. When I saw they upgraded to a USB C connector I knew it was time. I think the old USB Micro connectors are a PIA. Her new one is great. It synced right out of the box and connected to WiFi immediately. The thing is perfect! Sooo mine will arrive tomorrow. (Been reading off an old Fire) What bugs me are the reviewers that give this product one star because it didn't work out of the box or they were too dumb to figure it out. If it doesn't work send it back and get another one. It couldn't be easier with Amazon. Giving it one star because it didn't work says nothing about a good one that does work. I bet a bad one is one in a thousand or more. Give it a break...just get another one.
I have a kindle scribe and with the recent excessive remarkable advertising I thought I’d trial the remarkable. I found the remarkable a nice paper feel but the back light on the kindle is a deal breaker. I like reading and writing in bed and to be able to do that without putting the room light on and getting the evil eye from my sleepy partner is a deal breaker. Remarkable does have more paper choice like sheet music paper but I’ll never use half the options. All in all the remarkable has more options but the Kindle has enough choice for pens, note taking and planning for a variety of tasks, and is also an enjoyable experience to write with in all lighting conditions. If remarkable had a back light I might have another go.
I've owned both and for me prefer the Kindle Scribe. I use for note taking/reading 50/50% and the lack of being able to read on the Remarkable is a deal breaker for me. Maybe some can download books on the Remarkable but if you do read the Scribe is hard to beat.
I just did the same few days ago. The only (really the only) thing I less like about the Scribe is the greater distance between where you put the nib and where you actually see the ink. This distance is nearly zero in the reMarkable, thing I love. On the Scribe is not zero... but ok, I got used to it very fast, and overall the experience is great. Higher resolution, much much faster and smooth device, the new pencils work like charm, I use the backlight to read in bed before sleep. Yes, up to some extent the Scribe feels more "cheap". But I think with the coming software updates it will become an amazing device (which yet it is so, in my opinion).
@@davidmarzi7380 Good to hear that you like the Scribe. I guess the larger distance between the tip of the pen and the e-ink is due to the extra layer where the lights are, then again this brings us extra functionality. Well, I'm really looking forward to receiving mine next week. I liked the reMarkable, but I got disappointed with their customer support.
@Zoide Haven't been using it a lot, as I'm taking a break from work, but first impressions are ok. Like David, I don't like that extra distance between the tip of the pen and the display, but it's not a massive problem. Really, the only thing that I'm missing right now is the ability to cut and paste selections - something I use often when organising my notes. Hopefully this will be added with one of the next software updates.
I'm currently in the process of choosing between those 2 and I'm leaning towards the remarkable 2. I don't know why this is such a big factor for me, but the low profile magnetic case and the slick minimalist aesthetics are so appealing, I tried a friend's remarkable 2 and it's just such a tactile and pleasant, premium experience. The scribe, while objectively better in so many ways, just feels more like a boring and practical device. How much do you weigh this more emotional difference between the two? - For me, I struggle to stay focused and I think (hope) having a device that's really sexy that I want to grab will mean I journal and note take more. This certainly worked with my Fujifilm camera which is such a beautiful object and the Remarkable2 seems to be that too. The scribe on the other hand just looks a bit "cheap". Separately, I send all my books to my Kindle in ePub format which the Remarkable also understands (no DRM), so the Amazon store/ecosystem offers no benefit to me. The backlight may be nice, but not at the expense of a worse writing experience.
@@jayvansickle7607 I do. It runs just like the android app does on my other devices. I don't have a dedicated Kindle, so I don't know how else that may differ.
@@mikelowden477 Thanks... The supernate does seem to be the best Kindle alternative...and probably the best Enote taking device for Kindle users. Simply b/c the Note Taking is so much more robust. Kindle would need to make allot of changes/updates to match Supernote.
@@jayvansickle7607 I did a lot of research on E-Ink type products and am SO glad I settled on the SuperNote. It's probably the device that's improved my life the most. It's just so much more feature-rich, and the dev team always shows a runway to show that more is coming. I couldn't recommend it enough.
@@mikelowden477 Thanks again for the rec. I'm really tempted...but, the price is hindering (not that its a bad price at all...for what you get). This may be my next reader (when I'm in the market again)0-0
While I found the video to be informative, I wanted to point out a couple of important factors that were not highlighted: 1- The Kindle Scribe allows access to Kindle Unlimited books, which is not possible on the Remarkable 2 in any way. 2- Reading PDF ebooks on the Remarkable 2 can be a suboptimal experience, whereas the Kindle Scribe is better suited for this. It's important to note that the Remarkable 2 is primarily a note-taking device, while the Kindle Scribe offers more versatility with access to Kindle Unlimited and better PDF reading capabilities. Therefore, comparing the two devices would be unfair since they serve different purposes.
Personally I only use DRM free ePub books which I currently send to the kindle, so the Remarkable 2 should have a similar reading experience (minus the backlight)? (I'm currently leaning towards getting a Remarkable2, I don't have one yet). As for reading PDFs, that does sound like an important difference, can you please comment on what is subpar about reading PDFs on the Remarkable? - is it just the latency or anything else?
@@DigiDriftZone While the Remarkable 2 offers a great note-taking experience, it's worth noting that I have found the reading experience for PDF and ePub books to be less optimal.
In the case of ePub books, the page zooming and flipping functionality is slower compared to other devices, which can affect the reading flow. Additionally, adjusting the page view for PDFs can be challenging, and there is some latency or slowness when moving between pages. It's important to consider these factors if your primary focus is on reading eBooks. However, if you're primarily interested in note-taking capabilities, the Remarkable 2 excels in that aspect. Cheers!
Just sent the reMarkable back, having no front light was a much bigger deal than i expected, hardware performance was poor with handwritten lecture notes imported (you can watch the page render in blocks ), and crazy basic features are also missing from this devices note app even though the community has been asking for them for years. It does look nice though, better looking than the scribe. But I gave the scribe another ago as they surpassed remarkable in pen tools in this update and Amazon are doing trade in + an extra 20% off any kindle so it was over £110 cheaper with a pen and a much better reading experience and better hardware.
Interesting to hear your thoughts. I think if you're someone that is precious about the light, this will be a game-changer to have the Scribe. For me, I do sort of find it difficult but I think it goes against the concept of "should I be working at night" message that RM put out... So a strange one. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
What basic (or non basic) features would you say are missing in the Remarkable 2 for you? - I'm currently leaning towards this device and would appreciate your thoughts :) Also assuming your book is in ePub, what is subpar about the reading experience in good light? (I agree the backlight is a significant change, but I also don't like the idea of there being a gap between the stylus and the screen).
Great comparison. I am looking for a device for handwritten note taking and task and to do list tracking. I like to write with a pen and I prefer the experience of note taking and list writing in books rather than typing. I like distraction free as well. Is the Remarkable 2 still the most likely best choice for me? Unfortunately, it is not possible to try these devices out where I live in Singapore. Thanks
Kindle scribe (light) remarkable (no light) Do I really want to read with no back light (no) Keeping the kindle scribe for everyday use. My son now plays with the remarkable
While watching this to compare the two I saw that the Kindle Scribe is currently on $279 with the premium pen versus the Remarkable 2 at $450. Amazon made the choice for me lol.
Saying that remarkable has better quality hadware is only true to the design and build quality. Scribe has better display, back light, and for sure faster hardware itself.
Is the remarkable 2 a good option for sitting at your desk and writing notes rather than using Paper and Pen? Can you upload those notes to a file on your PC?
Can you read in dark environment on remarkable 2? That is about hardware. Can you read epub books on remarkable 2? That is about software. Upgrade your Kindle and ditch remarkable 2!
Remarkable 2 supports ePub, I don't know if this is a new feature, but one of the reasons I'm considering one! - backlight is a bit of a double edged sword as it drastically reduces the writing experience by introducing a gap, personally I would rather have no gap.
He definitely could have added a quick explanation for that in the commentary. £279 is for the price of a refurbished model, without a pen. If you buy new it’s £299, then additional £59-109 for the pen. So that’s £358-408. But really, if you go like-for-like, kindle scribe starts at £330. At these prices that 8% extra might not matter as much for some people
I found the kindle more money. I got a refurbished Remarkable with a referral code for £239. All these work with the same EMR pens so I got a nice Lamy pen for £35 but could have got the basic Amazon pen. So under £300 with a third party case. Kindle scribe is £410 but you can got 20% off with a kindle trade in so £328. Paper like connect service is currently better than kindles, but costs £3 after the first year. So first 3 years plus the pen and paper like would be £360
You just ruined your review when you said the screen quality on the remarkable 2 is better than the scribe. Clearly the scribe screen is better (for reading). Not debatable. But you are correct (or have a valid opinion) in everything else in the review. That one bit proves your review is a bias one.
@keepproductive For reading only or listening to audio books the scribe is significantly better (better/crisper screen text with back lighting options). For everything else the Remarkable 2 wins (build quality, note taking experience, etc). The Scribe is cheaper too. So it all depends on why you are using them. Both have advantages and disadvantages over the other. Good reviewers state the truth of these things. You just killed me when you said the Remarkable has a better screen for reading. I'm like, "why are you bleeping lying". I'm compared both screens and you are flat out wrong. And I don't recommend anyone get any of those devices. I'm a devout galaxy tab s9 user. That's what I recommend.
@@keepproductive I don't understand. If the screen looks BETTER for reading then why isn't it better quality? The text looks simply better. So I don't understand what you mean.
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The recent Kindle Scribe updates finally had multiple pen types and it works great.
This is my friend's second Kindle. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOnUR4NaproSbBbD2sdI4XcDZ58Jz8GOx The first one which is about 5 or 6 years old quit charging because the bottom connector went bad. When I saw they upgraded to a USB C connector I knew it was time. I think the old USB Micro connectors are a PIA. Her new one is great. It synced right out of the box and connected to WiFi immediately. The thing is perfect! Sooo mine will arrive tomorrow. (Been reading off an old Fire) What bugs me are the reviewers that give this product one star because it didn't work out of the box or they were too dumb to figure it out. If it doesn't work send it back and get another one. It couldn't be easier with Amazon. Giving it one star because it didn't work says nothing about a good one that does work. I bet a bad one is one in a thousand or more. Give it a break...just get another one.
I have a kindle scribe and with the recent excessive remarkable advertising I thought I’d trial the remarkable. I found the remarkable a nice paper feel but the back light on the kindle is a deal breaker. I like reading and writing in bed and to be able to do that without putting the room light on and getting the evil eye from my sleepy partner is a deal breaker. Remarkable does have more paper choice like sheet music paper but I’ll never use half the options. All in all the remarkable has more options but the Kindle has enough choice for pens, note taking and planning for a variety of tasks, and is also an enjoyable experience to write with in all lighting conditions. If remarkable had a back light I might have another go.
I've owned both and for me prefer the Kindle Scribe. I use for note taking/reading 50/50% and the lack of being able to read on the Remarkable is a deal breaker for me. Maybe some can download books on the Remarkable but if you do read the Scribe is hard to beat.
hi, dave, which would be better for reading PDF screenplays and write notes on page?
@@lannisterlodbrokremarkable likely the kindle scribe is a little klunky
Which of the two has the greatest latency?
I'm planning on replacing my reMarkable 2 with the Scribe and hopefully Amazon will catch up with the software soon.
I just did the same few days ago. The only (really the only) thing I less like about the Scribe is the greater distance between where you put the nib and where you actually see the ink. This distance is nearly zero in the reMarkable, thing I love. On the Scribe is not zero... but ok, I got used to it very fast, and overall the experience is great. Higher resolution, much much faster and smooth device, the new pencils work like charm, I use the backlight to read in bed before sleep. Yes, up to some extent the Scribe feels more "cheap". But I think with the coming software updates it will become an amazing device (which yet it is so, in my opinion).
@@davidmarzi7380 Good to hear that you like the Scribe. I guess the larger distance between the tip of the pen and the e-ink is due to the extra layer where the lights are, then again this brings us extra functionality.
Well, I'm really looking forward to receiving mine next week. I liked the reMarkable, but I got disappointed with their customer support.
@Zoide Haven't been using it a lot, as I'm taking a break from work, but first impressions are ok. Like David, I don't like that extra distance between the tip of the pen and the display, but it's not a massive problem. Really, the only thing that I'm missing right now is the ability to cut and paste selections - something I use often when organising my notes. Hopefully this will be added with one of the next software updates.
I'm currently in the process of choosing between those 2 and I'm leaning towards the remarkable 2. I don't know why this is such a big factor for me, but the low profile magnetic case and the slick minimalist aesthetics are so appealing, I tried a friend's remarkable 2 and it's just such a tactile and pleasant, premium experience. The scribe, while objectively better in so many ways, just feels more like a boring and practical device.
How much do you weigh this more emotional difference between the two? - For me, I struggle to stay focused and I think (hope) having a device that's really sexy that I want to grab will mean I journal and note take more. This certainly worked with my Fujifilm camera which is such a beautiful object and the Remarkable2 seems to be that too. The scribe on the other hand just looks a bit "cheap".
Separately, I send all my books to my Kindle in ePub format which the Remarkable also understands (no DRM), so the Amazon store/ecosystem offers no benefit to me. The backlight may be nice, but not at the expense of a worse writing experience.
The Remarkable feels like I can break it easily where the Scribe feels more sturdy. I’d hesitate to take the RM outside, not so much the Kindle.
Beware, as the new update comes with a bug where I am forced to restart it when it tries to wake up. It’s prone to just going blank.
I ended up deciding on a SuperNote A6X and it's AMAZING. May more robust software and features than both of these.
Do you use the kindle app? If so, are you able to compare it to the dedicated Kindle experience?
@@jayvansickle7607 I do. It runs just like the android app does on my other devices. I don't have a dedicated Kindle, so I don't know how else that may differ.
@@mikelowden477 Thanks... The supernate does seem to be the best Kindle alternative...and probably the best Enote taking device for Kindle users. Simply b/c the Note Taking is so much more robust. Kindle would need to make allot of changes/updates to match Supernote.
@@jayvansickle7607 I did a lot of research on E-Ink type products and am SO glad I settled on the SuperNote. It's probably the device that's improved my life the most. It's just so much more feature-rich, and the dev team always shows a runway to show that more is coming. I couldn't recommend it enough.
@@mikelowden477 Thanks again for the rec. I'm really tempted...but, the price is hindering (not that its a bad price at all...for what you get). This may be my next reader (when I'm in the market again)0-0
While I found the video to be informative, I wanted to point out a couple of important factors that were not highlighted:
1- The Kindle Scribe allows access to Kindle Unlimited books, which is not possible on the Remarkable 2 in any way.
2- Reading PDF ebooks on the Remarkable 2 can be a suboptimal experience, whereas the Kindle Scribe is better suited for this.
It's important to note that the Remarkable 2 is primarily a note-taking device, while the Kindle Scribe offers more versatility with access to Kindle Unlimited and better PDF reading capabilities.
Therefore, comparing the two devices would be unfair since they serve different purposes.
Personally I only use DRM free ePub books which I currently send to the kindle, so the Remarkable 2 should have a similar reading experience (minus the backlight)? (I'm currently leaning towards getting a Remarkable2, I don't have one yet).
As for reading PDFs, that does sound like an important difference, can you please comment on what is subpar about reading PDFs on the Remarkable? - is it just the latency or anything else?
@@DigiDriftZone While the Remarkable 2 offers a great note-taking experience, it's worth noting that I have found the reading experience for PDF and ePub books to be less optimal.
In the case of ePub books, the page zooming and flipping functionality is slower compared to other devices, which can affect the reading flow. Additionally, adjusting the page view for PDFs can be challenging, and there is some latency or slowness when moving between pages.
It's important to consider these factors if your primary focus is on reading eBooks. However, if you're primarily interested in note-taking capabilities, the Remarkable 2 excels in that aspect.
Cheers!
Just sent the reMarkable back, having no front light was a much bigger deal than i expected, hardware performance was poor with handwritten lecture notes imported (you can watch the page render in blocks ), and crazy basic features are also missing from this devices note app even though the community has been asking for them for years. It does look nice though, better looking than the scribe. But I gave the scribe another ago as they surpassed remarkable in pen tools in this update and Amazon are doing trade in + an extra 20% off any kindle so it was over £110 cheaper with a pen and a much better reading experience and better hardware.
Interesting to hear your thoughts. I think if you're someone that is precious about the light, this will be a game-changer to have the Scribe. For me, I do sort of find it difficult but I think it goes against the concept of "should I be working at night" message that RM put out...
So a strange one. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@keepproductive Nothing precious, poor light can happen at any time of the day ;-)
Me too.
What basic (or non basic) features would you say are missing in the Remarkable 2 for you? - I'm currently leaning towards this device and would appreciate your thoughts :)
Also assuming your book is in ePub, what is subpar about the reading experience in good light? (I agree the backlight is a significant change, but I also don't like the idea of there being a gap between the stylus and the screen).
Most of the time indoors, the Remarkable was hard to see. I had to turn the light to be able to see what I was writing.
Amazing review! Which one would be best for a study notebook?
Great comparison. I am looking for a device for handwritten note taking and task and to do list tracking. I like to write with a pen and I prefer the experience of note taking and list writing in books rather than typing. I like distraction free as well. Is the Remarkable 2 still the most likely best choice for me? Unfortunately, it is not possible to try these devices out where I live in Singapore. Thanks
Which is more suited for full page two-column research articles?
Kindle scribe (light) remarkable (no light)
Do I really want to read with no back light (no)
Keeping the kindle scribe for everyday use.
My son now plays with the remarkable
Where do I find the K Planner store you mentioned?
We'll add that soon.
What does "mvp" as a pejorative mean?
Minimum viable product, ie just good enough to ship.
I looked them both up and it seems the scribe is more expensive than the remarkable two, am I missing something?
Add the pen "plus" and the folio case :)
While watching this to compare the two I saw that the Kindle Scribe is currently on $279 with the premium pen versus the Remarkable 2 at $450. Amazon made the choice for me lol.
Where did you find that price? :o
@@pieroperez9814 during an Amazon sale for Mother’s Day. They dropped the price significantly a couple of times a year around holidays.
Great comparison! I’ve seen reMarkable just launched a keyboard and stand… for anyone still weighing up the two devices :)
The new keyboard from Remarkable 2 is WAY TOO expensive for what it is... a keyboard.
Didn't even mention the remarkable 2 doesn't even include the pen. Which both options are quite expensive.
Great review
is goodreads available on remarkble 2
No
Saying that remarkable has better quality hadware is only true to the design and build quality. Scribe has better display, back light, and for sure faster hardware itself.
Is the remarkable 2 a good option for sitting at your desk and writing notes rather than using Paper and Pen? Can you upload those notes to a file on your PC?
It is. Your notebooks are synced with the remarkable app on your computer, so you can view the files there and export them as pdf.
Can you read in dark environment on remarkable 2? That is about hardware. Can you read epub books on remarkable 2? That is about software. Upgrade your Kindle and ditch remarkable 2!
Remarkable 2 supports ePub, I don't know if this is a new feature, but one of the reasons I'm considering one! - backlight is a bit of a double edged sword as it drastically reduces the writing experience by introducing a gap, personally I would rather have no gap.
This video is misleading. Scribe has a backlight and its screen resolution is higher. This makes Scribe's hardware superior compared to reMarkable 2
We cover this in the video. The hardware might be stronger in areas, but the software doesn’t match up.
Ok but how can you show one as costing over 300 and then say you'll spend a lot more on the other one, which is shown at under 300..... Like, wtf?
He definitely could have added a quick explanation for that in the commentary. £279 is for the price of a refurbished model, without a pen. If you buy new it’s £299, then additional £59-109 for the pen. So that’s £358-408. But really, if you go like-for-like, kindle scribe starts at £330. At these prices that 8% extra might not matter as much for some people
I think I did? :)
I found the kindle more money. I got a refurbished Remarkable with a referral code for £239. All these work with the same EMR pens so I got a nice Lamy pen for £35 but could have got the basic Amazon pen. So under £300 with a third party case.
Kindle scribe is £410 but you can got 20% off with a kindle trade in so £328.
Paper like connect service is currently better than kindles, but costs £3 after the first year. So first 3 years plus the pen and paper like would be £360
You just ruined your review when you said the screen quality on the remarkable 2 is better than the scribe. Clearly the scribe screen is better (for reading). Not debatable. But you are correct (or have a valid opinion) in everything else in the review.
That one bit proves your review is a bias one.
Aha. I state the bias of being a remarkable user, but worth getting them yourself - the Scribe screen is only better in function, not quality IMO.
@keepproductive For reading only or listening to audio books the scribe is significantly better (better/crisper screen text with back lighting options). For everything else the Remarkable 2 wins (build quality, note taking experience, etc). The Scribe is cheaper too. So it all depends on why you are using them. Both have advantages and disadvantages over the other. Good reviewers state the truth of these things. You just killed me when you said the Remarkable has a better screen for reading. I'm like, "why are you bleeping lying". I'm compared both screens and you are flat out wrong. And I don't recommend anyone get any of those devices. I'm a devout galaxy tab s9 user. That's what I recommend.
@@keepproductive I don't understand. If the screen looks BETTER for reading then why isn't it better quality? The text looks simply better. So I don't understand what you mean.
Remarkable is just an expensive digital notebook not that impressive