How to Make a Rotary Reliable | RX8 Build ep. 2
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Can rotary engines be reliable?
Well, in this episode, Gels attempts to extend the life of his 13b powered Dorito machine. By installing the SOHN adaptor, the engine can now take advantage of all the improvements synthetic oil gives. Hopefully the RX-8 will survive what we have coming for it with help of this improvement.
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#rx8 #mazda #rotary - Авто та транспорт
What mods would you like to see done to the RX-8? 🤔
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BIG CHROME JAPANESE WHEEL!
Some Enkei RPF1 rims would look pretty sleek on it
Let’s see some HKS Coilovers!
4 rotor you won't
What’s that song around the 530 time mark?
Donut media vs fitment industries build battle
Make it happen
Donut media all day
Zach jobe would definitely win
MOST DEF
Y’all have no faith in Fitment industries cmon
Donut media is the UA-cam equivalent of drawing with big crayons
Rotary engines are like 6 year old kids in the store wanting everything and when you say no they get mad and don't cooperate
Not really, I semi-daily one
Similar to a BMW. They just want 1 thing. You give it to them. Then they thing they can get anything from you and compound how much they want from there. That's why if a BMW needs 1 thing, ignore it and it won't ask for more.
@@Dcc357 totally bro I feel you
@@MilesPrower1992 i see what you're saying but you usually always have to do something to make it reliable
@@josephburkhalter1985 what, like change the oil on time and not overheat it? So hard to do
How to make a rotary reliable = CALL THE VARGAS BROTHERS 👍
Was looking for this reaction 💯💯
Everyone knows that the onlly true way to make a rotary reliable is to swap it with an LS..........
@@corvette_jake7225 what a clown 🤡
*Insert bugs bunny "NO" meme, here"
Angel doritos spinning all day!!!
When you unplug a battery on these, you have to :
1. Turn it on & off a few times for the DSC light to disappear;
2. Fully turn the steering wheel each way until lock.
Keep doing the above until it goes 👌🤣
What he said^
Or after connecting back the battery just turn on the ignition without turning on the car, stomp on the brake pedal about twenty times til you see the needle on the oil pressure do a full sweep and back, then turn on the car and turn the steering wheel all the way to the left and all the way to the right and that will make the DSC light go away and stop flashing. This procedure is for the ecu to relearn without having to drive it for several miles.
You really only need to turn it lock to lock, turn it off, and turn it back on. This is based on my own experience with the RX8 I currently own.
My rx8 does not have DSC. the brake pedal thing is false. No need to do those things. But the car does need to relearn fuel trims.
Next thing you’ll tell me is that I need to sacrifice a rooster every full moon while chanting ‘madza madza madza’. But If I make the mistake of chanting madza two times instead of three then a coolant seal will explode.
Wow, never thought I would hear “Reliable” and “Rotary” in the same sentence
When you make them reliable the emissions get fucked that why they are like that
Same
You do hear them in the same sentence, rotary not reliable! Lol I do miss my Rx8 thooooo
Only in hypotheticals
There's not such thing as a reliable engine 🤣😂 grow up
I premix and beat on my car.
A redline a day keeps the rebuild away. . .
I have over 200k miles, still original motor and still going strong
is this on an rx8 motor?
Lies.
Guess i forgot to clarify, i own an FC Rx7 1988
@@86surge90 no, i didn't mention it but i own an FC Rx7 1988.
Cap
Love the video but you guys should show us what you’re actually doing inside the engine bay what your taking out and what things are
Rotary life=dedicated life, love the rotary cars
I just rotary swapped my Jeep Renegade manual. Very fun rally car!
What?
Excuse me??????
I just front wheel drive swapped my RX7 to make it better at drifting
@@brianj7787 lol, it is a awd vehicle btw. Very good off-road. Low toque. Probably should turbo it.
u did what?
Buying a new set of tools at Harbor Freight>>> looking for the old ones
I just got an RX8 a while ago and so far have done Sohn Kit, AEM Intake (there are intake haters out there but this one is the best), BHR Midpipe, Magnaflow Exhaust, Headers (don't go cheap, basically, buy Racing Beat ones), BennetBuilt LS coils, air pump delete, and double din kit. Really changes the car, though its reliability has plummeted :) . BHR and TREX are great places to shop for stuff. BennettBuilt has some good stuff. And then mazdatrix/mazmart. Good luck!
Where did you find the sohn kit I’ve been looking for one
Last time I came this early, she told her friends in their group chat😂😂🥲
Copied comment.
But I couldnt care less
Same bro
Philosophy behind rotaries:
You can wether do it terribly wrong or you can do it really good
The DSC is because of the battery disconnect, Just turn the wheel all the way to left lock and right lock a few times
My understanding of rotaries is so long as they are treated properly they are a lot more reliable than a subaru headgasket :o
Dude, I'm trying so hard to convince my wife that we (mostly me) need an RX-8. She is like ,"we need to save for a house". I'm like "I need a rotary in my life".
you dont own your place and you now want to buy an rx8? yeah id agree with her
@@Rory695 yep
An Rx8 costs 3k in my country i don't know about you but i can buy and sell in the same year :p
@@riosunlimited7413 ur married and don’t have a house? I agree with here you don’t need an unreliable 9mpg car
honestly you’re right go get that dorito
Well since the money pit miata is pretty much a finished build I will be using this as a replacement 👌🏿👌🏿
Just a heads up if you inhook the battery it "reboots" the ECU so let it idle for about 10 min so it can relearn AF value's. as for the dsc and traction turn your steering wheel all the way to the left then all the way to the right and it should turn off the dsc light, turn the car off and back on and the traction light should be off now too. (Yes you'll have to do this everytime you unhook your battery).
Love the vibes of this video, chill, not yelling at me all time lol. Great vid 👍🏼
I was digging the music in this video, very nice. Excited to see more RX8 content.
More to come!
Reliability tips from this random rotary fan:
Cooler thermostat for coolant
Cooler thermostats for oil (factory is 220 degrees, aftermarket is like 165 I think)
Phat radiator
Upgrade ignition (sakebomb garage has the best, d585 kits are a budget option)
Get rid of the cat
Change your spark plugs and oil every 3k miles ( recommend at least 10w 30 and (4) fd rx7 trailing plugs)
Spark plug ever 3k? ☠️
@@mrlee4579 I do, but I use rx7 plugs. theyre like 3 bucks a piece
Cats are a legal requirement in the UK for emissions. :'(
@@fdsamatt5763 same. my cat goes on one day every 2 years lol
@@squadmoves6194 Haha, going to be the same for me!
I HAVE BEEN WAITING AGES FOR THIS CONTENT.
*and its just in time for me to find my rotary project car*
Thank you.
I recommend an lrb aluminum undertray. Also water temp, oil temp, oil pressure gauges
Gels keep it up! Glad to see someone else trying to save an RX8. Even though you are second to installing elders on a RX8 😂. Photos will be in the gallery once my coilovers show up.
Watch plenty of your guys vids & Not sure why I never saw this series build, I love the kinda unpopular platform build, i think people in general love this car but would not want to own it due the cons , definitely a labor of love 👌💯
My neighbor an older lady (60ish) bought a 2004 model New and loves it still owns it to this day but she has definitely had to have it serviced quite a few times and seals rebuilt once and she babies the car doubt she even or rarely opened that throttle up too.
digging the build episode!!!
Excited for this series 🔥
ive always thought the rx8 is cool & very under-appriciated... true its no last gen rx7, but its a cool little car, & no "bro-tax" ...cant wait to see where u go with this thang
good content, great filming, good music, a great video, as always
Very cool series!
I love all the videos you guys make. Keep it up!
Appreciate the love fam!
Good video. I love the RX8, I have one. Disconnecting the battery will cause the DSC and traction control lights to come on. Reset DSC by turning the steering from lock to lock. The T/C will reset itself after a couple of starts.
Look forward to seeing the rest of the build. 👍🏻
My 88 FC seems pretty reliable. Hasn't blown up yet, and I've owned for 33 years now.
Gutless turd... shit the apex seals out 32 years ago
hyped for this build
Love the new series!!!!! Btw ur cameraman is A1! Great shots and b-roll
Thanks so much!!
nice looking forward to seeing how its going to turn out
I AM FUCKING LIVING FOR THIS SERIES! The RX-8 is my dream car; I wish I didn't have to sell mine. Thank you for giving me new, refreshing RX-8 content. (I'm on the spectrum not gonna lie, so it's really important to me as a special interest. Thanks for pushing against the status quo on this one :) )
You have to be very gullible and dumb to buy an RX8.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Or go in with an open mind and do your research to know if you want to have an RX-8 despite the flaws inherent to the Renesis engine. Let people love what they love, even if it's a time bomb with an 80k mile detonator. The only person that's gullible and dumb is the one who takes people that are ill-informed at their word, and treats that word as gospel.
@@AdDelayed Well, its pretty obvious you are not a car guy... are you even old enough to drive a car yet?
@@sandervanderkammen9230 plus, you're on the second episode of this series, so I don't know why you're invested in content about a car you see as an invalid vehicle.
@@AdDelayed The Mazda RX8 was a $3 billion dollar failure that killed off the entire RX brand... you don't know much about cars do you?
Thank you Sean, very cool
The Rotary Bum kit is so convenient, and it fits in the smuggler boxes on the FB ✨
This series is going to make me want a RX8! XD
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSS!!! EPISODE 1 LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!
I subbed for this build
🙌
“Because that’s what guys do…” then it shows me a commercial on washing dishes lol
You guys have some phenomenal cameramen, great shots throughout!
Glad you enjoyed it!
When rebuilding engine, widen Rx8 rotor apex seal slots to fit the Rx7’s 3mm unbreakable seals and the respective corner seals and any other seals to fit the new 3mm apex seals setup... use the stronger 3mm apex seals instead of the stock Rx8’s 2mm seals. More reliable and when the time comes to add boost.. your Apex seals would be ready to handle it. Make sure to get highly accurate machine shop to modify Rotors for the extra 1mm. Or some guys use the Rx7 Rotors instead and modify them to fit the MSP exhaust scrapping seal which is there to clean the exhaust port on the side plate housings on the Rx8.
You are gonna save me in the future like seriously
I hope this series lasts I really enjoyed this vid
I just want his garage lol seems like a pretty good size!
Funny that this video pops up in my feed as I’m sending out my injectors for a rebuild for my engine that has 3k miles on it since it’s been rebuilt for my FC :)
Do a crossover and get Zac to help you for an epic episode!
Wish i coulda showed this to my friend... he bought and sold an Rx8 the same day 🤣
SAME day??? For how much did he buy it for and WHY??? 😂
Lol my man explained why a sohn adapter is a good idea the best why I've ever heard
thank you for another great episode, can we see it beeing bridgeported in the future?
Cant wait to see proper mods like vag ignition coils, better radiator with hood exit, etc
once again i gotta point out that the SOHN adapter is not a replacement for premix its still not injecting enough oil into the rotor housing and its a series 1. the sohn adapter only increases bearing life not apex seal life. for a s1 you should premix 6-8oz per 10gal premium gas even with a sohn adapter and premix more if your doing a track day. good luck on your project i daily drive an rx8 and its a riot.
Don't know why, but that RX-8 fits you just perfectly.
Of course it's your car, and I'm not gonna tell you what to do.....
But man you REALLY don't need to run Idemitsu premix. I've been running walmart premix for years now and when I opened up my engine to refresh it, it looked beautiful! Just remember that Mazda had us use dirty sump oil to lubricate the apex seals. So that mean ANY oil will be fine. I do like Idemitsu when racing though ✊🏿
Good luck and welcome to the Brotary Life
To make myself feel better, my Wife "Originally" wanted one of these RX-8's to replace her 1996 Acura Integra GSR Sedan (because I did all of the work on it with almost 200K Miles on it), but I chose the 2015 MAZDA3 Hatchback...
Best Car EVER!
That jeep is clean af, i want a white wrangler now holy f
Y'all should make a video with the chevy Cruze. oh man, a driver to driver would be funny as hell.
for normal bolts get a 1/4 impact driver. dac dac gun is soooo good!
Omp is Oil Metering Pump. Uts the oil injection system for a rotary
Not sure if it's been suggested, but a couple things I've heard that you can do to increase reliability and decrease friction on moving parts in the engine are 1) WPC treatment, and 2) cryo treatment. Both of these procedures change the structure of the metal at a molecular level to essentially make it stronger, more durable, and more slippery. Definitely some things to look into.
Yess
RX-8 is very nice car
For the DSC light to be off, just turn the wheel all the way left then all the way right and tada :) (once should be enough, the skiddy marks will stay, but those will be gone after restarting the car)
I need to do the Sohn/CoF adapter change on mine.
In this situation (after battery removal), I'd recommend on the first start to let the car warm up without touching the throttle and let it run for a bit more, until it re-learns how to fuel the car.
Love the music
This show is the chill version of The Money Pit.
He so needs to wear the mighty car mods guys shirt 1 step is to Jack up your car. When he said that I bust out laughing
i saw part three dropped and didnt realise part two dropped, and i was in the bathroom and put it in my pocket while i was pissing at exactly 3:52 it was scary
Man, when I was 17 I had my heart set on a metallic blue rx-8 as my first car and I'm so thankful I didn't make that choice lmao
So your saying I shouldn’t have bought a crystal white rx8 as my first car and my daily driver
@@kylerpowney9771 I guess not, unless you don’t mind constantly fixing it and paying for high fuel costs and insurance premiums 🤣
@@XxDrWuSiJixX honestly the insurance isn’t awful the gas hurts and in my short ownership of it it really hasn’t been that bad I am generally decent with a wrench tho and like working on cars so the mild issues that pop up from age haven’t bothered me it’s just maintenance stuff
@@kylerpowney9771 More power to you man, I respect that. Meanwhile, I am driving a Honda Accord lmao. You definitely get cool points for that, enjoy her bro.
@@XxDrWuSiJixX will do man I try and take good care of my things so hopefully it doesn’t end up as another trashed first car. I did my research I knew what I was getting into now it’s just time to see how bad I am at math with this calculated risk
This makes me want to buy an rx8
This thing would look sick wrapped in like Jeep Q2 paint code
I remember my first time working with a Rx8 😂🤣🤣
I've been looking at RX-8's, this video was kinda sign to send it and get one lmao
Fucking *SEND IT*
Mate you don't need to remove the PMC to remove battery tray. Just use an open-ended spanner for the hard to reach bolts! 👍
Also, guys don't go out and buy new sockets etc. when they can't find their old ones; they just find their old ones!
“So you want a 2nd gen Lexus IS”
The only reliable thing about a rotary is that it will *reliably* breakdown
Lucky 7 Racing!!!!!!
My RX8 was super reliable. All I did was upgrade the ignition and run premix lol. The engine only died when I turbocharged it and lost control of my wastegate. 😬
Liar....
I love this car and i really enjoyed the video but i’m still not sure what you were installing and why - can we see more of the reason for installing the part and the effect that it has mechanically?
i felt the same way but the description says it's to able to use sythetic oil.
Great car to do a LS swap.
To reset your stability control and creature control you need to turn your steering wheel for lock multiple times both ways, and if you actually want to turn the computer off 100% hold down the button for 10 seconds when it is working , As the dam system is almost killed me
do a series on making unrealible motors good next one should be the northstar engine
Donut's money pit Miata is normal survival Minecraft, and the RX8 is Ultra Hardcore.
Good video! Audio needs a little love but other than that good job!
The traction control light is on due to the dsc light being on and the dsc light might be on due to the abs sensors malfunctioning or just being bad so i would check those 💪🏾
don’t want to believe and won’t let myself believe this
Where did u buy the SOHN adapter for the omp deleted!?
I really want an rx 8
any way you can drop links to the parts you installed? looking to get what you installed
U need a cat deleted if u got the sohn adapter,
If u got the cat already deleted
U don't need the secondary air vacuum.
And now that u have a sohn adapter u can go full synthetic oil.
And u might want to check transmission oil and diff oil too,
I recommend using
Red Line (50304 MT-90 75W-90 GL-4 Manual Transmission Gear Oil - 15 oz. U going to need 2 quarts for the transmission.
And for the diff u need 2 quarts of
Red Line 57904 (75W90) Synthetic Gear Oil and NO THERE NOT THE SAME OIL! DON'T MISTAKE THAT!!
The dsc flash, you basically need to turn the steering wheel all the way full lock from left to right and it will disappear
OMG i was literally searching for this today wtf
Now I can buy an rx8 for my first car.
Yo April fools is over. (Jokes... jokes)
Keep in mind, the Sohn adapter only affects oil quality not quantity. If the Oil Metering Pump fails to inject enough oil the engine can still see increased wear.
There is really no good way of knowing if an old OMP is working properly or not, it is just one of those things you should look at if an engine comes out of a car. Otherwise keep an eye on the new Sohn oil level which can atleast tell you that the OMP is working in the first place. To further increase the oil injection quantity, a flash tuning software like MazdaEdit or Versatune can be used.
Also the plastic pieces in the engine bay are made in a way to direct airflow through the engine bay to help cool the exhaust.
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The rx8 is a hard car to really mod, since mazda already squeezed every bit possible out of the car. Most mods will do more harm than good...seen plenty of +30hp hot air intakes on rx8s
-A cat delete is usually the biggest reliability improvement (no heat buildup around the exhaust ports)
-Swapping to an LS d585 coil kit helps avoid failing ignition issues in the future
-New oil coolers with chicken wire protection added to the front bumper will help against overheating your rotors, seals, and bearings
-A set of gauges for water temp+oil temp+oil pressure are useful since the rx8 has dummy on/off gauges
-Some people swap to series 2 rx8 transmission and differential, which have more aggressive gearing and more robust parts.
-Heat shielding on the Lower Intake manifold can help since the Exhaust manifold is right below it
-For intakes only the AEM or Racing beat intake systems show around +3 HP increase
-Most aftermarket headers provide no gains.....the rx8 engine has no overlap = no scavenging = no use for tubed headers
-The rx8 hood is already aluminum and weighs just as much if not less than most carbon fiber versions.
-Already has a kevlar-carbon fiber driveshaft
1. Sohn kit
2. Decat racing midpipe
3. Racingbeat catback or exoticspeed
4. Versatuner
5. Stock air box w/ afe filter, aem cai, or racingbeat
6. Oil catch can from oil neck to can to vent to atmosphere. Plug hole on intake
7. Oil pressure upgrade racingbeat
8. Wrap A/C lines with heat shield
9. Ryan rotary ign coils n wires new ngk plugs
10. Clutch pedal bracket reinforcement
11. Brakes brakes brakes
12. Air pump delete
13. Upgrade electrical grounds maybe relocate battery
14. Koyo radiator, mazmart upgraded waterpump, only fl22 coolant
15. Trex performance hose kit many colors
16. Now you can do everything else
When you are ready to tune go to versatuner.net or message here and I will send you tunes. Flame tunes, crackle pop, performance, whatever.
I pulled those artisa for mr gels
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There is a certain pomeranian that knows how to make a rotary reliable