Here's why there's a lack of drivers 1. Money sucks for being away from the family for 30 days at a time. 2. Companies have no respect for drivers. 3. We need more than 4 days off ever 30 days. 4. Over taxation and excess regulations. 5. Every DOT officer and state trooper will do anything and everything in their power to take away several weeks of paychecks with multiple frivolous citations. The list could go on for days...
well in the early 70's Hoffa sr. shut down trucking 13weeks nationwide,because truckers stuck together,you cant do anything split apart! WITHOUT ALL AS ONE AS THE MEN DID NEARLY 5 DECADES AGO,YOU GOT NOTHING! HISTORY NEED'S TO REPEAT ITSELF!
James Snead You are exactly right on that. It always seems that DOT is out to get us, when you figure a 5mph over ticket for a four wheeler at around $50.00 or $60.00 bucks vs $190.00 for an 18 wheeler you know something is up.
Koronswagg 17 I keep my trucks legal and cover myself very well with DOT requirements and also legally. I carry several types of legal help... They can try but it won't happen
There isn't a shortage of people willing to drive a truck. There's a shortage of people willing to drive a truck for the low pay and terrible treatment. In 1980, truck drivers were making 37k per year, according to OOIDA. When you account for inflation, that's 110k on 2018 dollars. The average truck driving job in 2018 earn around 55k. A significant decrease in driver pay. Add on being constantly lied to, forced into long, unpaid sitting hours at warehouses, increased regulations which result in even lower pay, and you've created this driver shortage.
Landrar ....I agree. I should since I also worked for a small company with one owner and no staff and no office. He worked out of his home. I drove a gravel truck while waiting to get hired by a semi company. Got an offer only a few weeks into my employment with him. He lied about full time employment as I quickly found out when he couldn't even keep me busy 40 hours a week. Had me purchase about $70 worth of fuel out of my own pocket in the short few weeks I was employed. My truck had some kind of slow oil leak he never fixed. When I got an offer to work for a big semi company, I actually told the company I want to give this guy a weeks notice despite all the red flags. Did he appreciate it? After I trained (yes, a newbie like me was training my replacement) he never paid me for the fuel I paid for. I was quite naive to the industry since this was my very first employer after getting my CDL. Found an article on the internet years later in a crime blog. His wife called the cops from a local restaurant/hotel bar due to a domestic violence incident between them. When I was hired, he even asked if I have a place where I can park one of his few trucks! Naturally, being new and needing any experience I could get, I put up with all these red flags. I didn't make it clear in my first comment but have seen first hand in such a short time all the crap that is so typical in this industry. I owned a tiny business and only had one employee at a time. Never once abused any of them. Even kept one guy on payroll for my 3 month slow season having him do easy customer data entering into my computer and preparing hundreds of mailers etc. I had every reason to lay him off since I never promised him full time. But kept him on payroll and he gladly stayed. My little budget easily justified laying him off since I could have done his work myself. There's more to his story but I'll stop here. So again, I understand your correction. What an industry!
I feel bad for the drivers.Im a manager of a receiving at my store and I unload the semis everyday full of product.Its sad to hear how companies treat the drivers,I always save the drivers good food and drinks when they come to my store.I always tell them it’s on the house and I unload the truck for them while they get to take a nap for 30mins to an hour.
Chris Morgan then wtf are you complaining about corporate. You arent a company driver. 43 cents a mile is company driver pay. If you own your own truck and you get 43 cents per mile. You might wanna switch with a different company.
The "shortage" exist, because of: 1. Pay is low for the work required. Pay stagnates quickly. 2. Time away from home 3. Lack of benefits 4. Being overworked and stressed.
I love driving a truck. Police harassment, road rage car drivers, heaviest traffic ever on the roads, months away from home, waiting hours or even days to be unloaded, camping weekends in truck stops or rest areas, being dirty and dirty laundry make it a life not worth living. To do this for low pay and a country that looks at you as just someone in their way isn’t worth it. I wouldn’t recommend long haul driving to anyone.
I abandoned my Lease purchase in 2013...got sick and tired of having my success governed by a "better then thou" desk jockey. The Nations Interstate system is WAY BEHIND on volume of traffic handling, and truckstops with adequate mandatory break/ parking space is also SEVERELY LACKING; ESPECIALLY in New England. Personally I BOYCOTTED New England area from VA, and NE to Maine; nowhere to park...ergo New England doesn't like trucks; I didn't serve New England.
Dan Jones exactly, any other respectable trade would have filed a complaint with the labor board and would have made changes. I understand that trucking is (different ) ya right, what a lie if I ever heard one. The people with the money and power have their thumb on the working man.
Truck drivers really should be making at least $90,000 a year hands down. There job is way more important than some other stupid jobs that make that. Our society is messed up.
Truck driving is also the 10th dangerous job to have. The hazard pay doesn't equal what truckers are making. They work 14 hours days and work 70 hours per week and constantly put themselves in danger of death. If you are an owner operator you can make $100,000 per year, but the starting wages are too low at $40,000. It's not enough money when you realize all the expenses that they have.
I agree and you should make more depending on what you are shipping. The guys who drive those 76 oil rigs, definitely have to be compensated as they are carrying such a hazardous material
Many do. Trucking is a vast industry. Take into consideration the myriad of things you can do as trucker- tanker, flatbed, dump trucking, house hauling, doubles, triples the list goes on. Factor in experience and countless companies that are willing to give reasonable compensation. Virtually, every company even if it's not a "trucking" company has their own fleet of trucks (e.g CVS, Dominos Pizza etc.). Dominos pizza and Papa Johns pay their truckers handsomely. Do the research and you'll see there is money to be made in trucking.
The American truck driver is leaving this field because of rules and pay....get the DOT out of the picture and pay the damn guys and you would have drivers.
Can't get rid of the DOT because Trucking is a job with many, MANY hazards and very high safety risks. However, they *can* increase the pay and will need to in order to draw more into the field.
@@AaronCMounts They won't get rid of DOT for sure. If I could get a higher pay or no DOT I might actually get interested in the job. I'm able to work at a warehouse and make pretty much the same amount of pay, more flexible schedule, and even no drug test.
I find it funny how truck drivers are referred to as professional drivers, but are afforded no respect or any other privileges that their experience and dedication should allow.
It's not strange though Mud Puddle it's just greedy bosses who keep the money. This is capitalism eating itself. What good is capitalism without control when the workers have no money to buy stuff, then everything dies. Henry ford knew that, he built towns and spread the wealth.
Yeah I'm a 22 year old. I drive a truck but my insurance on my personal vehicle is still really high even though I drive more safe and alert than 95% of 4 wheelers on the road. I feel like having an A class cdl and job should get me insurance benefits but no not for me.
the money is dogshit compared to the sacrifice made by the people driving. this should easily be a 6 figure job. it's also one of the most dangerous jobs. if you want people to be loners and not have a life away from work, you have to pay them substantially more than theyre making
jason hochheiser yeah, local driving is more hustle but I think being away from home and family should justify equal or more pay for otr. To anyone reading this reply, jb hunt is crap, 1 of the worst paying company for otr.
Hmm i think 6 figures is pushing it for just needing only a highschool diploma i would say starting pay at 50k n then with experience for your pay to increase every 2 to 3 years n if you want 6 figures i would leave that for moving hazardous materials and other highly expensive and sensitive loads
Absolutely there is no driver shortage, it is a shortage of pay. Drivers need not a Union, they need Commercial Driver Association only for drivers so they can hire Lawyers to protect drivers rights. Driver work for free about 20 to 30 hours a week for free, and what Government do about it. NOTHING!
As a truck driver your life can dramatically change from one day or another. You could get in a terrible accident and go to jail for man slaughter. Is it worth your 50k a year being away from home a month and getting 4 days off? Driving for 11 hours and once you sign off 10 hours later again for another 11 hours? No life no time to be on the phone. Truck drivers deserve a raise. This job can mentally break you.
Trucking Companies need to do MUCH MORE to retain current drivers and entice new drivers like myself. I'm in CDL school right now and doing OTR is totally unappealing to my wife and I. Not worth it at all. Looking to do local Hourly CDL work. Even that pays crap. Companies are far to GREEDY right now. Until there bottom line begins to suffer, they will stop toying around with puny incentives and get REAL by offering REAL PAY, BENEFITS and HOME TIME. The pigs at the top of the food chain aren't feeling the pain...... yet.
And having a E.L.D telling you when to sleep and drive and you can't forget that useless 30min break it's a joke what the government did to the industry.
@draxx them sklounst I understand where your coming from. Trucking companies pay us enough just to stay alive and KEEP us hungry. Sadistic greed is what is wrong with Corporate America. Trickle down economics is just like Chinese water torture !
Truckers and the majority of delivery drivers are being ripped off daily! That is the problem. There is tons of money in freight and there are a ton of parasites steeling that money from the drivers. Hence you have decline in drivers!
#1 parasite is Fred Smith of Fed Ex. He has done more to decrease the pay of truck and delivery drivers than the Elders of Zion have done to steal the world's available money.
Cute how they don't talk about the over regulations put on the trucking industry which has driven people away as well.... But that would be too much facts.
They also mention nothing about the Insurance aspect of it. It's very expensive to hire a new inexperienced driver due to high insurance costs. They instead make it sound like there is a massive shortage of drivers which is a predictable lead in to them saying we need automation or more immigration to solve it. No what they need is to just fix the Insurance racket, and the jobs will fill themselves with Americans already here even despite the crappy pay rates in this depression economy.
I've been driving 23 years and the rahl company wouldn't hire me said im over qualified. But they take people with no experience and pay them next to nothi g so they get rich.
I worked for Roehl. Very nasty company to work for. They would nail you for every little thing you did wrong. Even if you were being unloaded at the time, and you were on time, and you accidentally sent the being loaded message late, they would knock that against you. This was in 2007. I'm sure they haven't changed.
Paul Johnson dont forget the gutless truck micromanaging and treating you like a baby lol I was with them in 15 and none of that has changed still the same as 2007
yeah i drove for CRST which requires you to team...out for 3 weeks then home for 5 days and i just couldnt make any real money it was a joke...i quit and went with a company that only did short hauls mostly back the next day or same day...those who dont drive big trucks have no idea the stress truckers go through...stupid car drivers...weather...crappy roads all add to the stress...but hey our job is easy we just drive a truck....my wife said that until she went on a run with me....she never said that again...trucking is a rough life and burnout happens quite often and why there is a shortage
@@uuhhhmicrotone2435 40 years ago i made the decision not to pursue my dream of being an Owner Operator based on Reagan deregulating the industry. Glad i did as much as i wanted to own my own truck. I would have driven myself to an early grave.
I went OTR just for a short while, if you are married, it doesn't work too well, I just did it for experience, than went local, the OTR pay is lousy, cannot find a place to park your rig, TOO many Govt. Regulations, getting worse, cameras facing the driver, idiot nasty receivers, and shippers, low pay, the OTR companies LIE about everything, if your dispatcher does not like you, no miles for you, on and on it goes. Local Union LTL is the only way to go, home every night , no weekends, OT after 8 hours, hard work, 4 wheelers cutting off trucks, etc, etc. No wonder there is a shortage of truckers!!!!
Apocyl Doomer Uh, You Forgot About BAD WEATHER AND HIGH WIND WARNING!!!! 😠 THE NUMBER ONE KILLER OF TRUCK DRIVERS!!! 😠 Hmmm, Have You Ever Drove An EMPTY Truck On I-80 Inbetween Rawlins And Laramie Wyoming, Or I-10 Through Palm Springs???? Yep, You Forgot About WIND!!!! The Number One Killer Of Truck Drivers And The Very Reason The Trucking Industry Is The Number One Most Dangerous Profession In United States Of America And Canada! YEP, IT'S WIND!!!!
Richard Kaltenbach Yes, bad weather, and the wind, I.e. the Santa Ana winds, trucking is the most dangerous job, but there are so many drivers the percentage is low, something like that, Commercial Fishermen is the #1 most dangerous job, so they say..
•Overregulation •underpaid for the time put in and away from family •harassment from police, sheriff's, federal agencies, etc. •discrimination by cities and states against truck drivers for simply parking within their city boundaries and sometimes on deserted state off ramps •massively lacking parking spaces for the millions of truck drivers •abusive behaviors by trucking carriers and scheming to deprive their employees of their earned wages for any and every reason •shippers and receivers who do not value truck drivers work schedule and the unstoppable 14 hour clock and so they sit and wait as our work time is wasted away for free on their facility, and if you try to leave they call the police.
In a nut shell.. place where I work, as a local driver, they treat otr guys like trash, make them sit around and wait ect ect. When I have to interact with a OTR driver to move a trailer or what not, i treat them with the respect they and their valuable time deserve. Usually they are shocked to see someone be nice and courteous to them and that Pretty damn sad.
They sure do. I never forget i had to deliver to compton ca. 1 truck stop held 30 trucks. No spots so i remember seeing a closed down weigh station. I pull in shut down. 3 hours later. Fuzz come a knockin. Cali sux for parking. Hate going there its the worse.
I used to live with a truck driver and he was my inspiration to be a one but the issues man are like sacrificing yourself for a company that doesn’t respect you as a human being take a huge risk too.they don’t care if there’s a hurricane, apocalypse ..they literally care only about themselves
As someone who owns a small trucking business with my spouse I can tell you it is a tough industry. The equipment expense, maintenance, plates, fuel, fees, taxes, etc adds up rapidly and even if you make a decent amount of money on paper it gets eaten up very quickly. My husband loves driving and we work hard. I hope one day the money will match up with the amount of work and sacrifice you make when you work in trucking.
John J III he leaves for days when he gets home he busts her cheeks, while he's gone maybe she's getting her cheeks busted also , she looks like she has nice cheeks
Sara R It all pretty much comes down to what you guys are hauling. The rates just aren’t there to match the expenses anymore. I haul cars own 1 truck or should I say the truck owns me. Rates are still decent but other companies are also coming in at cutting rates. Money management is the key. Good luck to you and your husband.
dont matter that must only count for a finished product going to a store but what ablout the parts that were brought from around the country for that company to buld thier product that will eventually be shipped to a walmart or what not.
There is no shortage of drivers, just a shortage people willing to work 70 hour weeks for minimum wage. The companies can't keep drivers because the pay is so bad. Go ahead ask me how I know this.
No you're 100% correct, I drove for Werner who claimed that they have "competitive pay", well their starting pay for me was 0.32 cpm with no downtime pay or layover pay. Long hours and little money. I left after 7 months. Every other company was the same story, and all the good companies required AT LEAST 3 yrs experience. I'm going into the Navy where I can not only drive trucks but do all kinds of other things.
Low pay. Small trucks with a thin mattress. No money. No comfort. No drivers. If the companies made the driver want to be in the truck maybe the drivers would.
I was going to give the truck driving thing a shot. The company I was going to work for was going to pay for my schooling and everything involved. They were also nice enough to let me go on a ride along with a veteran trucker to show me how easy the job was....... this is where I decided not to be a trucker. We went and picked up our product, loaded everything... so far so good. Then we had to drop it off in some city in the mountains. I was sleeping in the cabin and suddenly we stopped. I am told to hurry up and get out of the truck. I do so, when I open the curtains I notice we are just... on the road.. we aren't exactly pulled over. Once I get out of the truck my heart drops..... the weight shifted going up the mountain and the trailer of the truck is hanging over a cliff. It was so steep I couldn't see down the bottom of the cliff. That was the last day that being a trucker ever crossed my mind... the fact that nothing anyone did was wrong and yet this trucker and I almost lost our lives... just the random chance that a pallet was a little to wet, cause the boxes to fold... and the pallets to topple to the side while on a curve. I have a huge respect for truckers because of this.... but my life is more than what they are paid
And the driver will get the blame at most big companies because if the load shifts it's obviously the driver's fault because he was going to fast around a turn.
Dealing with the Police State is another reason I gave it up years ago. Now more than ever, local Governments use Police forces to raise revenue, at the Driver's expense.
Truckers haven't got a pay raise since 1980. Time for them to make $100k or more per year plus benefits. $100k should make it so people want to make the career change. 100k should be the starting wage.
If there were a driver shortage, there would be piles of freight all over the country that can't get moved. The 'driver shortage' is a myth they've been promoting for 20 years so they can bring in people from other countries, who they won't have to pay as much. Seriously, walk into any truckstop and you'll see. Driver pay has not gone up since '03/'04 because of this. And it's 2017!
Timothy Adams are you in the industry? Huge shortage, just go look at the job boards at any truck stop or, Craigslist, or any local paper you will always see adds for truck drivers. Get a clue.
It's a pay shortage, which translates into a driver shortage. Insurance dictates who companies hire, and keep. Risk of huge lawsuits is a deterrent to any company , and who they hire.
Mr. Adams I'm an otr driver and trainer. Most companies are short 100 - 200 drivers that a lot of empty trucks not moving. I can tell you most companies are needing to replace 60% of there fleet every year. I have been out here for 10 years. I may stay 10 more. I don't know. But I will am amazed that some people that have never got behind that 21" wheel would give any opinions about something they have no clue!
Because companies don’t want to pay truckers what’s fair, plus long periods of time away from home! Owner operators should be paid no less than $3.5/ mile, and company drivers at least 0.75/mile.
Geraldo Moraes I personally have vowed to never turn another key until I'm paid 86cpm there national average speech has been heard in the same words of every trucking company I've talked to for the past 7 years 41 to 43 cpm these loads per truck pay enough to pay drivers experienced with clean records 86 cpm even easily pay .75 cpm but that cuts into there funding for there personal lives which is more important to them obviously
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@@breezethompson7818 Of course their personal lives are more important to them. So is everybody's personal life is more important to the individual living that life.
marzinjedi Take Away Respect For JACKED UP PICKUP DRIVERS And Give It Back To The REAL Truck Drivers! Real Trucks Have 18 Wheels, Not Pickup Beds!!! I'll Take A BISON Over Any SILVERADO Anyday, Or An LTL9000 Over Any F-150/Raptor, Or A BIG HORN 900 Over Any Ram, Any Day Of The Week. GMC GENERAL Too!
The trucking companies will lie to you about everything. Recruiters tell you what you want to hear. Then management will decide if you can go home for earned time off. Freight is what matters. Your safety is your responsibility. High mileage drivers, dictated what a safe driver gets. I worked for Marten, Interstate, Celadon, Swift and local companies. Not one company will care about your family well being. Your health is not important. Your just a number.
@Russ RV Freedom 37 I agree. Things would improve if companies weren't allowed to train their own students. If training was done by third parties under federal regulations they would be forced to pay proper wages. But the government doesn't care about companies abusing new drivers. That's why I believe we should let the freight rot and sit on the docks.
Drivers should be making at least 250k a year hands down the ends don't justify the means BS laws and regulations I hope nobody drive SHUT THE COUNTRY DOWN
I’m British and it’s the same here in the UK as it is in the US but it’s not all down to money that there is a shortage of truckers, it’s all the rules and regulations that come with the job, having said that I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any rules and regulations, governments and authorities have made it so hard that no one wants to do it anymore, too much crap involved.
Ireland is the same..and it is about the money ! You can't change the nature of the beast..so pay me and pay me well for my very valuable time and effort.
too many regulations honestly I'm considering letting my cdl go. It's just too much for not enough I could just drive a box truck local and make as much.
Robert Bradshaw oh yeah no doubt! I mean I was an otr driver for 4 years and worked for a really good company marten the big blue Smurf trucks. They are an awsome company! Really good benefits exalent pay! My dispatcher was top notch! But now I work for a local out fit home every night weekends off and still making right at 900$ a week after taxes. With 70% less responsibility.
@@muffs55mercury61 that's bologna... if you have to fear the camera, you're probably not doing your job properly. Have a camera in my truck, it's inaccessible by the company, only activates under certain circumstances, and can be blocked while not driving so there's privacy... best of all, these cameras have saved my career TWICE...
@@nahnah6765 not true. The camera in most companies cases has nothing to do with trusting their driver, it has to do with trusting other drivers around them. These cameras have saved my career twice already.
@@daviking-88 I've been out here for a long time. It has EVERYTHING to do with no trust. Do I blame them? No. Cause these new drivers are stupid. Playing with their phone instead of driving
I once had this idea that I thought would change the way freight was distributed. 1. We get rid of the otr positions. No one should be away from home for that long. 2. Companies could open up hubs all over the nation. Then drivers would just have to drive to a hub, drop the trailer, pick up another and then head back. They would be home daily. 3. Local driver would then take the stuff, and deliver it to it’s final destination from the last hub. I truly think this could work. Also it keeps drivers from getting stuck in some states with low freight.
Pay more and get more.... Is just that simple. I think they deserve it. They risk their life and they have to be away from their loved ones for weeks at time.
steve b so true I drive between Michigan and Laredo Texas and many of the people I meet are not very sharp I myself have over 10 years in the universities with no degree but grounded knowledge
steve b that's fine I'd rather get back to what I was doing for 30 years repairing musical instruments but nobody wants things fixed they just want shiny new Chinese crap
Between CSA, TWIC, HazMat, elogs, cab cams, dispatch and safety virtually riding in the cab with you, 10 hour rests, no wonder people are quitting. The only people willing to drive trucks nowadays are young people, they don't know how things used to be, so they accept the way things are today.
Over regulation buy states and increasing federal regulation along with a difficult job has caused many drivers to park their rigs. The brokers make all the money and they control the business end. The truckers bear the high maintence and fuel cost and trouble living on the road for weeks at a time earning often times less than minimum wage. Many drivers decide to work food service etc. And be home evernight in their beds with familly.
you're right 100 percent im in the foodservice industry and i made $94,000 last year its a tough job going up and down a ramp but im home 90% of the time and when i do layover its in a hotel the company pays for
But that's all part of free market capitalism, right? So it must be good for you, that's the great american conservative way! Suck it up, snowflakes, and be a patriot! Make America Great Again!
In 1979-1980 I was making $32,000 per year as a company driver. Home every week. Translated to today's wages, that would be equivalent to $110,000 per year. Yes, pay is the biggest issue. Pay sucks now. And the electronic logs are the 2nd biggest drawback along with elimination of the split break. The newer rules FORCE tired drivers to drive!
yeah the e-logs stink for drivers, no more having 3 different log books. Thank goodness DOT don't know how many miles from where you came from. I would have many violations. They are too many regulation for us. I can no longer drive because I had neck surgery which is not the cause of me obtaining my physical, but I have nerve damage from it and i have to take a drug called Lyrica to stop my burning and shaking. I still have my class A hoping that they will except it, otherwise I would be back on the road. I never really understood the split break, I tried it and almost had so many violation in the Oregon DOT pit stop. They just got frustrated with me and told me not to do it. LOL oh well.
no I hated it, but to get miles that was the only way to do it. Spending hours doing and redoing logs. No I hated it. I know my dispatch knew what I was doing, because they would have on my qualcom three loads at a time, not many other drivers had that, they actually was mad because I got miles. I drove some with a E-log and not to sure if I like them. I never took a break, I did stop to go to the bathroom, but not to eat. I had a whole kitchen in the back. And shoot, a DOT officer here taught ME how to legally do some of it, at least giving me extra time.
The difficult concept is that the profit margin is lowe enough as it is the owners get paid way too little think of mechanics fuel tires and so on the prices for maintenance and so on are way too much for 75 an hour which the owners get paid and than pay the drivers more? not possible the owners need better pay for higher wages for the drivers we need drivers!
@@hazard1371 Are you paying for your own training or is a big carrier paying you? You're better off getting a CDL on your own money and having the freedom to pick what company you work for. You could even drive construction equipment and make 16 to 20 dollars an hour while being home every night Or find a small company where you can have a personal relationship with your boss. I drive less and make more than some schmuck just starting out working for, say, CR England. It is possible to still make it in this industry, you just have to avoid the big carriers
I did 25 years and only ran just ONE LOGBOOK at any one time.. If I couldn't do " THE JOB " and do it legally, And still make a living with it, there would be no point doing " THE JOB " at all ....
Need more money, I used to drive truck and still hold a cdl. Got out of it because of the Money, now making 5 times what I was making. Truckers should be making between $100,000.00 and $200,000.00 per year depending on experience.
If you’re going to get into trucking don’t just settle as a company driver. If you want to make the big money become an owner operator or start your own business. The trucking industry is very lucrative if you navigate the smart way
Adrienna Mindyabiz I use to drive for years also. I’m making about 3x a year what I was making driving. I still hold my cdl and use it frequently at work. I’m a skilled laborer for a heavy highway road construction company in southeast PA and do all prevailing wage work.
@Adrienna Mindyabiz Do Car Carrier/Hauling work pays excellent start with a EZ4, Mini-5 or Max 6 and Do 2/3 Local Runs Per Day you will Profit Between $200-$300per Trip After Expenses and that depends obviously on your truck situation and how much you choose to Pay yourself
John Gallo Get Rid Of WIND, The CHP, LAPD, NHP, AHP, UHP, NMSP, KHP, Navaho Sherriff, Lyon Sherriff, etc. For Starters. Plus Those DAMN LAPD HELICOPTERS!!!!
The biggest problem is, if you compare average hourly rates (and consider time and a half for over time), truck drivers make about as much as burger flippers. It's just that burger flippers work 30 hours a week, and truck drivers work 60-70 hours a week. Really sad if you think about it.
Your employers organize so they can make more money and have drivers work under more difficult conditions. What are you going to do to change that? Probably nothing.
I quit driving after trucks after 20 yrs cause the pressure from eld watching my hours co slowing the trucks down I couldn’t even run 70 mph on the Ohio turnpike other bs, I got a job at stocking shelves at a membership store working 40 hrs a week and home every nite 5 days a week and make darn near as much money as trucking. Go figure!
John Wymer Hook up with the U.S Postal transportation service truck driver division. Great pay, health benefits, double time, vacation & personal time, savings & retirement plan, home every night/ day, relocation if available/wanted. No corporation greed or pressure.
Rachelle Joachim yes, but the pay scales & costs of living vary from state to state. Whereas a small apartment in W.virginia is 500/ month , in N.Y city it's 2000/month. Go to the U.S postal service web site & apply for a position to get your foot in the door. Government treats their employees very well ! Most private companies will stick it in your ear ,cheat you and terminate you if you look at them the wrong way. BELIEVE ME !
goldie mack, I use to count all the hours that past from when I get to the yard to when I and back at the yard to go home. I told my boss a few times that McDonald's people qould get paid more for those hours. My boss abuse me so much in so many ways, I eventually quit.
HI LO/LO . Sr. I make 168k a year.... let me give you the avg figures. 2,000 miles at 0.32 cpm. = 640$ working 7 days a week. That before taxes. McDonald's 9$ hr x 40hrs 360$ before taxes. Add 10hrs of overtime 135$ = 495$ before taxes.....look how close those numbers are. Truckers work 70hr wk MCD work 40 to 50hrs wk its the same money. Trucking is DANGEROUS.
I’m not blaming them it’s just that a lot of them are taking jobs that don’t pay as good and the companies are taking advantage of it and expecting older drivers like me with 35 yrs experience and a clean record to work for the same money a lot of foreigners think that 28 to32 cents a mile is great money because that’s what they were making over there but here that’s nothing, I’ve had companies offer me 32cents a mile and I walked out I told them I was making 28 cents a mile as a first year rookie back in the 80 s
In 2010, I went to the orientation for SWIFT thinking I was gonna get 36 cents a mile for the first year because that's what the paperwork I had received from the CDL school said. Instead, because so many people were out of work and becoming truck drivers they lowered their starting pay to 23 cents a mile for your first 30 days solo then 26 cents a mile for the first year with a 1 cent raise each year after that. Going to work for them would have been financial suicide and luckily I got a job driving a box truck making $15 an hour to start. Now I drive a tri-axle dump truck making good money and never had to go over the road. Yay!
$41k is the average eh. What you give up for that is your lifestyle. You’re working to pay for stuff you barely get to use. 30 days over the road for 4 days at home. You’re gone 10 or 11 months out of the year. Personal health deteriorates. The trade off is unjust. A trucker has to pay for their home life and OTR life. We get paid so little because every shipper wants to pay as little as possible to move the product so it’s cheaper for the consumer meanwhile we truckers are the ones who suffer in seclusion away from home.
We truckers should be more money why? Because we are risking are lives and others on the road. Most grown as men I speak with say they are scared of driving a rig and killing ppl and themselves. Very big responsibility.
mr. m Come to south texas. D.o.t. will stand by the scale light button with binoculars waiting for a truck they like then hit the lights to pull em in. From there, it's violation frenzy!
It's more complicated than pay and hours. There's a major lack of places for a truck to park when the driver needs to sleep. When you stop on a ramp or side of the road, police will make you move. That in turn screws with the legal hours you need to sleep and drive with. If you don't drive hard, often they will make you spend your home time in the loading yard in the back of a Walmart distribution center as punishment. If they don't dispatch you to a customer, you're stuck where you are. In the deepest cold nights, police will make drivers turn their trucks off (Some states it's illegal to idle your truck). So you have a choice, 1) disobey the police, 2) drive though you're legally not permitted because of hrs, 3) freeze to death (I know of one driver that did. I knew the man and his family). There's so much more. Bad equipment, not getting paid for miles. filthy truck stops. Truckers often are treated like animals. It's not the pay, it wasn't for me, I left because I had respect for myself and there's way to many people giving you orders. BTW, being an owner operator is risky and hard, but if you can make that work, that can be very fun because you plan for yourself.
i know a couple drivers that there company were screwing them like that....they parked the truck and called the company and let them know they need to send a driver to drive the truck and locked it up and flew back home..lol
is that why so many trucks are stopped on the side of the freeway on 680 in Sunol (CA) ? i usually do an early morning commute (i have work at 5am) and i always see sooo many trucks stopped on the shoulder. many of them are turned on . :0
I drove for 6 months and that was enough. I'd rather would work an hourly 40-50hr/week job, have the weekends off and be able to still make near the same amount all while 1. Actually having a social life 2. Being able to eat healthy and go workout 5 day a week 3. not deal with all the bs, regulations, bs fines 4. The winter months are 100% horrible for driving in many northern states (at least from my experience), my income was substantially limited by the weather/snow storms so you make way less while facing more dangers, and still committing to 70 hour weeks. However once spring/summer arrived driving became far more enjoyable + more miles.
No home time, harassed by cops, treated like garbage by dispatchers, treated like garbage by shippers, treated like garbage by everyone, nowhere to park, not being paid detention, rejected trailers, waiting 2 hours to take a shower, waiting 2 hours to get fuel, other drivers blocking you in, and that's just the beginning. Until companies start treating drivers better, they'll never keep the seats filled. I'm about done after 27+ years. I hate it.
I bet. I feel bad every time I drive by Home Depot here and the local cops have yet another truck pulled over. Like every time I've went by they have a driver pulled over. Extortion really.
Drive through Ohio lately , they pull trucks over just for fun... Give hard working innocent drivers just trying to make an honest living a fine , a bad day. That's why they can't find drivers.... They f*ck with us for no reason..
Maybe for the newbies. I average about 10.5 hours per day for $65k + benefits. (And only 5 days per week, home every night.) I've been at it a while and know where to make decent enough money. One of my friends works a little more but pulls in $85k and is also home daily. You can make money if you're a good driver and consistent worker.
AT ONE TIME A DRIVER WAS A DRIVER AND ALL PAID THE SAME,ROAD WORK PAID MORE BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT HOME AND COMPENSATED WELL FOR IT,UNTIL DEREGULATION IN 83'.
Chris Estabon I work 4 days a week (local home every night) off every wednesday and every weekend. And make 65k about 11 hrs a day. Its just you have to find the right job. Otr for a low life company like swift, pam or schneider you arent gonna make any money. UPS hires you in at 19 an hr after 3 yrs you make top pay 36 dollars and hr.. not bad at all. Actually its more than just about any other career that your not going to college for 6 plus yrs. The pipeline drivers usually are a part of a teamsters union and bring just under 4k a week home.
Truck driving is hard, even when driving local and to make matters worse they put way too much responsibility like paperwork and other things and the pay does not match the responsibility especially when you haul HAZMAT
It's quite simple. Truck driving is a "doing skill" and less of an analytical expertise acumen. I'm not disparaging truck drivers at all!!! In fact, in many ways, what they do is MUCH harder than what engineers or computer coders do. They have real time, real life consequences if they mess up. But compensation is never based on difficulty, it's based on societal changes. Your skill set has to be where society is headed. Driver-less trucking is most likely the future. Society and change is brutal. Nobody cares if one is the best at a skill that is being replaced. It's a sad fact. Well rounded individuals with both brains and brawn and/or good hand eye coordination are being replaced by emaciated beta super genius nerds bordering on the autism spectrum. Truck drivers should not be ashamed, and they should occasionally punch a nerd that spends all day on their computer. ;)
16 years ago I got into trucking because I thought I could bring my family into middle class wealth.. wrong I'm struggling every day. Need more pay and benefits.. and home time.
Brandon Boyden IF you want to LIVE in your truck, eat sandwiches and ramen every day, SAVE EVERY PENNY YOU CAN, and I mean every penny. Don't pay rent anywhere, I mean literally live in your truck you can make a little. If you can do it after a couple years you might have a decent bank account. Average pay is around 40,000 for a NEW DRIVER. Don't believe everything you see or are printed on those little cards at your local pilot by the bathrooms. The cents per mile suck, and you're going to have to get 500 miles a day, every day! If you drive hard it's not that hard. You can get 600 in a day if your lucky. There's A LOT that goes into trucking. I could go on and on. It's not black and white, there's a lot of grey area. I've only had my class A for 3 years and drove hard for 2 company's at a year a piece. It's NOT worth it.
I have about 12 years left to retire.. (if i can afford it).. driving since i was 19. seen alot of changers in regulation and the respect factor.. Made more money in 80s and early 90s then i do know. Todays truckers are not as glorified as much as we once were..we are told we are a dime a dozen. Its a real shame. Alot of good drivers out there and yes some bad.. The boat and the fishing poles look better every day.!! lol. Cant wait to rip up my CDL..
Start saving now .. I retired in 2012 due my health.. I'm getting by on $1280.00 a month.. it's not that hard to do but you gotta be real conservative and keep close track of every buck you spend each month.. What I'm getting is all the reward for 25 years watching that white line whizzing by at all hours of the day in the most horrid weather conditions imaginable ....
Swift or any other feudalists entity still live with 16-17 century way of exploiting the workers to the max irrespective of the drivers mental & psychological state. I'm a 3 million miler owner operater who quit in 2006. Give it shut and see bro. Good luck.
Spent most of 20 years OTR, just got tired of being treated like a 3rd class citizen, yeah... by shippers, receivers, and dispatchers... but overregulation and greedy government officials are getting worse and worse. I actually enjoyed the travel, the trucks, and most of the people. Companies are being incentivized to pick up "newb" drivers, even going out of country for new hires, and you can see the result at nearly any truck stop... CDL mill graduates who can't really handle the equipment, and are easily baffled when they run across lane markings they weren't properly trained to recognize. How often have you gotten stuck behind a Swift or PAM driver stopped in a merge lane, craning his or her head to see what should have been in their mirror... if they'd continued on to the acceleration lane?
Jak Conrad Or Being RUN OFF THE ROAD For No Reason By A TLI Driver (YES, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU, TRANSCO LINES OUT OF RUSSELLVILLE ARKANSAS AND BROKEN ARROW OKLAHOMA!!! 😠 I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU AND YOUR 140 MPH OUTLAW OUTFIT!!!)
Here is why it is happening. 1: Government legislation has ruined the fun in truck driving. 2: Declining buying power of U.S. dollar has made it not pay to work in truck driving. 3: Increase security has jacked up the sitting and not driving time. 4: Annoying truck scales. 5: Computer truck logs.
Stop paying with mileage calculator like practical, and other calculators, pay drivers door to door and pay the waiting time from the first to the last hour. That would be a huge step forward to keep drivers in the industry and bring new drivers on driver’s seat. Just these two points among many and many others.
Dylan Newell I agree with you 1000% I don't trust these m************ something is up with all this new technology coming out they have their think tanks already in place they know what they're doing you're right
Most of it is the government. There will always be a trucker shortage. From high tickets, to the rules of service, child support, to other reckless under regulated car drivers. Everything plays a part.
The trucking industry got rid of 90,000 truck drivers just last month.The industry wants to keep everything for themselves and not pay the truck drivers.Thats the real problem.GREED 😠😠😠😠😠😠
Trucker Snake They can always replace us with someone that's a sandwich maker at subway. In the promise of the open road and big money. Also instead of them making 300$ every two weeks and trucking can also pay them 500$ every week to them they're making big money.
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The problem is being paid by the mile. You don't get paid sitting waiting to load or unload. Plus you can only drive 11 out of 14 hours and you have to take mandatory breaks not to mention the idiotic E-logs, emissions standards and tins of regulations put out there by people who have never turned a wheel.
Aaron Sanborn when I started in this business I was told that I couldn't be paid by the hour because there was no way to keep track of the time. Well, with ELD's now there is. Hourly pay, with overtime after 40, and layover pay when there's no freight, or no log hours. That's the only thing that will fix it.
I am a car hauler and I had to work hard to learn my trade. I have 38 years experience. I made over $78K in 2006. Last year I barely made over $55K. Deregulation is what ruined truck driving. There was a time just before I started in 1980 that the rates were froze and adjusted annually but deregulation allowed companies to bid freight as low as they wanted to go and it has been downhill ever since.
Kyp Sunrider otr company 55k a year -did that oilfield- home everyday off every other weekend 160k a year- did that too Now Otr- booking my own loads Stay out 2 maybe three weeks Home for as long as i like I no longer deal with large carriers or smaller companies that pay a driver .35 to .45 cent a mile And believe me these companies are making money Example 2100 mile run i booked payed the truck 10500 Mysellf as a "company driver" made 2,625$ 1 pick 1 drop Emptied then booked a load 650 miles payed the truck 3900 I made $975 off that run My week began on a thursday Finished out the following Wednesday Do the math These big companies are making money Meanwhile paying the driver 30-40cent pm Or the local driver 15-20$ an hr And yes ive booked a LOT of short haul 65 mile runs that payed the truck 1800$ 100 mile runs paying 2300 to the truck
Chris Montreuil I wouldn't know how to answer that. My truck is turned down to 68 and I mostly Drive about 65. I know from my observation I'm the only one that's paying attention to the speed limit in construction zones. I've had so many drivers passed by me and slow down to look at me and put their hands up in the air because they don't understand why I slow down
With $9000 ( one of my drivers got for forgetting to put down a tag axle) tickets and more regulations than a hospital emergency room who would want to own or drive a truck!
Laurenzio GM I agree they/we need more respect on the road and from the companies we make rich with our labor, but I had many incidents with fellow truck drivers being the disrepectful ones to a fellow truck driver.
The trucking companies treat drivers like dirt, most keep drivers segregated from the office staff. Shippers and receivers treat drivers like dirt and mostly refuse to let drives rest on their property. And the general public treat drivers like dirt. Not to mention how all levels of government treats them. And for the whipping boys before you reply...................... You may have bought this on yourselves, but it wasn't I..........................
Here's why there's a lack of drivers
1. Money sucks for being away from the family for 30 days at a time.
2. Companies have no respect for drivers.
3. We need more than 4 days off ever 30 days.
4. Over taxation and excess regulations.
5. Every DOT officer and state trooper will do anything and everything in their power to take away several weeks of paychecks with multiple frivolous citations.
The list could go on for days...
well in the early 70's Hoffa sr. shut down trucking 13weeks nationwide,because truckers stuck together,you cant do anything split apart! WITHOUT ALL AS ONE AS THE MEN DID NEARLY 5 DECADES AGO,YOU GOT NOTHING! HISTORY NEED'S TO REPEAT ITSELF!
wally so Agreed
James Snead You are exactly right on that. It always seems that DOT is out to get us, when you figure a 5mph over ticket for a four wheeler at around $50.00 or $60.00 bucks vs $190.00 for an 18 wheeler you know something is up.
James Snead I agree 100% with what you said I hope a DOT officer is reading your comment.
Koronswagg 17 I keep my trucks legal and cover myself very well with DOT requirements and also legally. I carry several types of legal help... They can try but it won't happen
There isn't a shortage of people willing to drive a truck.
There's a shortage of people willing to drive a truck for the low pay and terrible treatment.
In 1980, truck drivers were making 37k per year, according to OOIDA. When you account for inflation, that's 110k on 2018 dollars.
The average truck driving job in 2018 earn around 55k. A significant decrease in driver pay.
Add on being constantly lied to, forced into long, unpaid sitting hours at warehouses, increased regulations which result in even lower pay, and you've created this driver shortage.
Landrar That's the real truth.
correction..."rich execs success"
...The fish rots from the head down.
jusayen so That's some, but it's a symptom not a cause.
These problems affect almost every company, even those that don't have super rich executives.
Landrar ....I agree. I should since I also worked for a small company with one owner and no staff and no office. He worked out of his home. I drove a gravel truck while waiting to get hired by a semi company. Got an offer only a few weeks into my employment with him. He lied about full time employment as I quickly found out when he couldn't even keep me busy 40 hours a week. Had me purchase about $70 worth of fuel out of my own pocket in the short few weeks I was employed. My truck had some kind of slow oil leak he never fixed. When I got an offer to work for a big semi company, I actually told the company I want to give this guy a weeks notice despite all the red flags. Did he appreciate it? After I trained (yes, a newbie like me was training my replacement) he never paid me for the fuel I paid for. I was quite naive to the industry since this was my very first employer after getting my CDL. Found an article on the internet years later in a crime blog. His wife called the cops from a local restaurant/hotel bar due to a domestic violence incident between them. When I was hired, he even asked if I have a place where I can park one of his few trucks! Naturally, being new and needing any experience I could get, I put up with all these red flags. I didn't make it clear in my first comment but have seen first hand in such a short time all the crap that is so typical in this industry. I owned a tiny business and only had one employee at a time. Never once abused any of them. Even kept one guy on payroll for my 3 month slow season having him do easy customer data entering into my computer and preparing hundreds of mailers etc. I had every reason to lay him off since I never promised him full time. But kept him on payroll and he gladly stayed.
My little budget easily justified laying him off since I could have done his work myself. There's more to his story but I'll stop here. So again, I understand your correction. What an industry!
Been driving since 2005 can't remember the last time Truckers got a real increase in pay...Only an increase in disrespect!
Robert Bradshaw Yelp I worked for FFE back in 2006 for 32 cent per mile most companies still pay the same and it's 2018 L.O.L.
Greed is what is going to collapse the economy. At least it's going to be one of the key problems.
Mandela Effect Residue how did you become a Christian
J Gamble , my dad made the same money back in 1984. Hope that helps you see how far back it's been.
I started driving in 1996, I was doing better back then!!
Underpaid and overworked.
SAD
Insurance rules says if you have not driven in 5 years or so you cant drive a truck again.
But they accept rookie drivers fresh out of school.
@@Johnkoth Whatever it takes to make the benjamins...
increase salary mean price for item increase too
@@Johnkoth foreal? Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard🤔
I feel bad for the drivers.Im a manager of a receiving at my store and I unload the semis everyday full of product.Its sad to hear how companies treat the drivers,I always save the drivers good food and drinks when they come to my store.I always tell them it’s on the house and I unload the truck for them while they get to take a nap for 30mins to an hour.
Too bad more receivers don't treat people with respect!
765kvline very true they don’t see the hard work and hours drivers have to drive and work
You are a rare individual IVS... thanx
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD Bless You and your family!!!
good man ...if everyone did something small like this a day for another...man i cant even imagine how vastly better this world would be
Greedy trucking companies making $3.00 plus per mile and then paying the driver 43 cents per mile. Corporate greed
Man, why don't you start up your own trucking company if it's that easy big money!?
Sami Valkonen
I have my own trucking company!
Chris Morgan then wtf are you complaining about corporate. You arent a company driver. 43 cents a mile is company driver pay. If you own your own truck and you get 43 cents per mile. You might wanna switch with a different company.
yes u are right
They get more,much more than 3.00 a mile,rest assured.
After taxes , gas,maintenance & citations You have peanuts left to show to your spouse
No wonder they leave
majid Ashif I couldn't agree with you more
The little dog too...
If u had a child and get behind in your child support they take your CDL so how u can get a heads
Peacock For Sale dam
You wouldn't get citations if you were legal and doing the right thing
There are no lack of drivers. Just a lack of pay.
There is a lack of drivers.........*that works for cheap*. There are hundreds of thousands of drivers who want at least a living wage.
Viet Lee he is correct there is no lack of drivers it’s a lack of pay.
Francisco Contreras What does the army have anything to do with truck driving?
no there isn't, average pay for commercial is not $30,000, it's $60,000
Guys don't accept the lie of shortage of drivers in America, We're easily doble trucks drivers Vs loads.
The "shortage" exist, because of:
1. Pay is low for the work required. Pay stagnates quickly.
2. Time away from home
3. Lack of benefits
4. Being overworked and stressed.
Kev Zen y
As well as the job requires high responsibility
I love driving a truck. Police harassment, road rage car drivers, heaviest traffic ever on the roads, months away from home, waiting hours or even days to be unloaded, camping weekends in truck stops or rest areas, being dirty and dirty laundry make it a life not worth living. To do this for low pay and a country that looks at you as just someone in their way isn’t worth it. I wouldn’t recommend long haul driving to anyone.
THIS
Same here, plus sleep apnea regulations.
I abandoned my Lease purchase in 2013...got sick and tired of having my success governed by a "better then thou" desk jockey. The Nations Interstate system is WAY BEHIND on volume of traffic handling, and truckstops with adequate mandatory break/ parking space is also SEVERELY LACKING; ESPECIALLY in New England. Personally I BOYCOTTED New England area from VA, and NE to Maine; nowhere to park...ergo New England doesn't like trucks; I didn't serve New England.
Dan Jones months on the road ??? Unload for days at a time ??? Wow who you working for ????
Dan Jones exactly, any other respectable trade would have filed a complaint with the labor board and would have made changes. I understand that trucking is (different ) ya right, what a lie if I ever heard one. The people with the money and power have their thumb on the working man.
Truck drivers really should be making at least $90,000 a year hands down. There job is way more important than some other stupid jobs that make that. Our society is messed up.
Truck driving is also the 10th dangerous job to have. The hazard pay doesn't equal what truckers are making. They work 14 hours days and work 70 hours per week and constantly put themselves in danger of death. If you are an owner operator you can make $100,000 per year, but the starting wages are too low at $40,000. It's not enough money when you realize all the expenses that they have.
Michael Huebner I know I just said they should receive at least $90,000 a year... okay.
I agree and you should make more depending on what you are shipping. The guys who drive those 76 oil rigs, definitely have to be compensated as they are carrying such a hazardous material
Sculpin
That's what I'm thinking. The people keeping everything rolling should earn more
Many do. Trucking is a vast industry. Take into consideration the myriad of things you can do as trucker- tanker, flatbed, dump trucking, house hauling, doubles, triples the list goes on. Factor in experience and countless companies that are willing to give reasonable compensation. Virtually, every company even if it's not a "trucking" company has their own fleet of trucks (e.g CVS, Dominos Pizza etc.). Dominos pizza and Papa Johns pay their truckers handsomely. Do the research and you'll see there is money to be made in trucking.
The American truck driver is leaving this field because of rules and pay....get the DOT out of the picture and pay the damn guys and you would have drivers.
Can't get rid of the DOT because Trucking is a job with many, MANY hazards and very high safety risks. However, they *can* increase the pay and will need to in order to draw more into the field.
@@AaronCMounts They won't get rid of DOT for sure. If I could get a higher pay or no DOT I might actually get interested in the job. I'm able to work at a warehouse and make pretty much the same amount of pay, more flexible schedule, and even no drug test.
I find it funny how truck drivers are referred to as professional drivers, but are afforded no respect or any other privileges that their experience and dedication should allow.
Ron Si hold it in a bit I think Mud Puddle meant funny strange not funny funny. Just saying mate.
It's not strange though Mud Puddle it's just greedy bosses who keep the money. This is capitalism eating itself. What good is capitalism without control when the workers have no money to buy stuff, then everything dies. Henry ford knew that, he built towns and spread the wealth.
@Silent Majority That's a very good point mate.
Yeah I'm a 22 year old. I drive a truck but my insurance on my personal vehicle is still really high even though I drive more safe and alert than 95% of 4 wheelers on the road. I feel like having an A class cdl and job should get me insurance benefits but no not for me.
We are only called professional drivers so they can blame us for anything that happens.
the money is dogshit compared to the sacrifice made by the people driving. this should easily be a 6 figure job. it's also one of the most dangerous jobs. if you want people to be loners and not have a life away from work, you have to pay them substantially more than theyre making
jason hochheiser yeah, local driving is more hustle but I think being away from home and family should justify equal or more pay for otr. To anyone reading this reply, jb hunt is crap, 1 of the worst paying company for otr.
jason hochheiser I agree, My family don't even feel comfortable when I'm home cause I'm never there
Hmm i think 6 figures is pushing it for just needing only a highschool diploma i would say starting pay at 50k n then with experience for your pay to increase every 2 to 3 years n if you want 6 figures i would leave that for moving hazardous materials and other highly expensive and sensitive loads
adjusted for inflation, truckers should be making 6 figures based on wages thirty years ago...……...
I agree 100%. I just said the same thing; it ought to be a 80- 100,000 dollars a year minimum! Preferably , 100,000 to start.
The shortage isn't a driver shortage its a pay shortage.
Absolutely there is no driver shortage, it is a shortage of pay. Drivers need not a Union, they need Commercial Driver Association only for drivers so they can hire Lawyers to protect drivers rights. Driver work for free about 20 to 30 hours a week for free, and what Government do about it. NOTHING!
Exactly!
Thomas ohman Yep
Facts
Marek Bielesza how do they work 20-30 hrs for free?
As a truck driver your life can dramatically change from one day or another. You could get in a terrible accident and go to jail for man slaughter. Is it worth your 50k a year being away from home a month and getting 4 days off? Driving for 11 hours and once you sign off 10 hours later again for another 11 hours? No life no time to be on the phone. Truck drivers deserve a raise. This job can mentally break you.
Trucking Companies need to do MUCH MORE to retain current drivers and entice new drivers like myself. I'm in CDL school right now and doing OTR is totally unappealing to my wife and I. Not worth it at all. Looking to do local Hourly CDL work. Even that pays crap. Companies are far to GREEDY right now. Until there bottom line begins to suffer, they will stop toying around with puny incentives and get REAL by offering REAL PAY, BENEFITS and HOME TIME. The pigs at the top of the food chain aren't feeling the pain...... yet.
And having a E.L.D telling you when to sleep and drive and you can't forget that useless 30min break it's a joke what the government did to the industry.
Louie J how come we could it get this back in 60 and 70es
Louie J sorry boys my bed was the Sterling while one eye open one eye close it's a outlaw thing you new driver no nothing about
@draxx them sklounst I understand where your coming from. Trucking companies pay us enough just to stay alive and KEEP us hungry. Sadistic greed is what is wrong with Corporate America. Trickle down economics is just like Chinese water torture !
Truckers and the majority of delivery drivers are being ripped off daily! That is the problem. There is tons of money in freight and there are a ton of parasites steeling that money from the drivers. Hence you have decline in drivers!
#1 parasite is Fred Smith of Fed Ex. He has done more to decrease the pay of truck and delivery drivers than the Elders of Zion have done to steal the world's available money.
Cute how they don't talk about the over regulations put on the trucking industry which has driven people away as well.... But that would be too much facts.
Madog Llewellyn ... Exactly....
Regulations like what, HOS? proper maintenance? weight restrictions?
BINGO!!!
They also mention nothing about the Insurance aspect of it. It's very expensive to hire a new inexperienced driver due to high insurance costs. They instead make it sound like there is a massive shortage of drivers which is a predictable lead in to them saying we need automation or more immigration to solve it. No what they need is to just fix the Insurance racket, and the jobs will fill themselves with Americans already here even despite the crappy pay rates in this depression economy.
Jav253 ....Amen...
I've been driving 23 years and the rahl company wouldn't hire me said im over qualified. But they take people with no experience and pay them next to nothi g so they get rich.
Open a company hire people, don't work for them
I worked for Roehl. Very nasty company to work for. They would nail you for every little thing you did wrong. Even if you were being unloaded at the time, and you were on time, and you accidentally sent the being loaded message late, they would knock that against you. This was in 2007. I'm sure they haven't changed.
Please explain what this has to do with Trump? These issues have been around for decades.
Paul Johnson dont forget the gutless truck micromanaging and treating you like a baby lol I was with them in 15 and none of that has changed still the same as 2007
yeah i drove for CRST which requires you to team...out for 3 weeks then home for 5 days and i just couldnt make any real money it was a joke...i quit and went with a company that only did short hauls mostly back the next day or same day...those who dont drive big trucks have no idea the stress truckers go through...stupid car drivers...weather...crappy roads all add to the stress...but hey our job is easy we just drive a truck....my wife said that until she went on a run with me....she never said that again...trucking is a rough life and burnout happens quite often and why there is a shortage
We're over-regulated and undercompensated
daniel haupt exactly
Everyone wants a piece of the pie... Companies, brokers and at the end the truck driver gets the crumbs
reagan's de regulation of the trucking industry is literally what caused the lack of compensation
@Hello daniel haupt, How are you doing?
@@uuhhhmicrotone2435 40 years ago i made the decision not to pursue my dream of being an Owner Operator based on Reagan deregulating the industry. Glad i did as much as i wanted to own my own truck. I would have driven myself to an early grave.
I went OTR just for a short while, if you are married, it doesn't work too well, I just did it for experience, than went local, the OTR pay is lousy, cannot find a place to park your rig, TOO many Govt. Regulations, getting worse, cameras facing the driver, idiot nasty receivers, and shippers, low pay, the OTR companies LIE about everything, if your dispatcher does not like you, no miles for you, on and on it goes. Local Union LTL is the only way to go, home every night , no weekends, OT after 8 hours, hard work, 4 wheelers cutting off trucks, etc, etc. No wonder there is a shortage of truckers!!!!
True.
Apocyl Doomer Uh, You Forgot About BAD WEATHER AND HIGH WIND WARNING!!!! 😠 THE NUMBER ONE KILLER OF TRUCK DRIVERS!!!
😠 Hmmm, Have You Ever Drove An EMPTY Truck On I-80 Inbetween Rawlins And Laramie Wyoming, Or I-10 Through Palm Springs???? Yep, You Forgot About WIND!!!! The Number One Killer Of Truck Drivers And The Very Reason The Trucking Industry Is The Number One Most Dangerous Profession In United States Of America And Canada! YEP, IT'S WIND!!!!
YTPD Very true yep.
Richard Kaltenbach Yes, bad weather, and the wind, I.e. the Santa Ana winds, trucking is the most dangerous job, but there are so many drivers the percentage is low, something like that, Commercial Fishermen is the #1 most dangerous job, so they say..
Foodservice delivery probably the best trucking job, if you don't mind laboring. Great pay and great home time.
You want sober safe people putting 50 to 70 hours a week,it's gonna cost you.
Or maybe there are some immigrants who will do it for far less..
leagueofotters - or maybe there are some Mexicans that will do your job for half the cost!
@@zemzem8323 He said sober and safe though
•Overregulation
•underpaid for the time put in and away from family
•harassment from police, sheriff's, federal agencies, etc.
•discrimination by cities and states against truck drivers for simply parking within their city boundaries and sometimes on deserted state off ramps
•massively lacking parking spaces for the millions of truck drivers
•abusive behaviors by trucking carriers and scheming to deprive their employees of their earned wages for any and every reason
•shippers and receivers who do not value truck drivers work schedule and the unstoppable 14 hour clock and so they sit and wait as our work time is wasted away for free on their facility, and if you try to leave they call the police.
That about covers it.
In a nut shell.. place where I work, as a local driver, they treat otr guys like trash, make them sit around and wait ect ect. When I have to interact with a OTR driver to move a trailer or what not, i treat them with the respect they and their valuable time deserve. Usually they are shocked to see someone be nice and courteous to them and that Pretty damn sad.
They sure do. I never forget i had to deliver to compton ca. 1 truck stop held 30 trucks. No spots so i remember seeing a closed down weigh station. I pull in shut down. 3 hours later. Fuzz come a knockin. Cali sux for parking. Hate going there its the worse.
Couldn’t agree more!!!
I used to live with a truck driver and he was my inspiration to be a one but the issues man are like sacrificing yourself for a company that doesn’t respect you as a human being take a huge risk too.they don’t care if there’s a hurricane, apocalypse ..they literally care only about themselves
Because no one wants to work 120 hours a week for $4 per hour.
you got that right, making less than a walmart worker, i dont think so.
Lol
They get 4 dollar? Really?
Actually my dad is a truck driver and he gets way more than that
Are you actually dumb. Just Walmart drivers make over 100k. Most give 70K...
As someone who owns a small trucking business with my spouse I can tell you it is a tough industry. The equipment expense, maintenance, plates, fuel, fees, taxes, etc adds up rapidly and even if you make a decent amount of money on paper it gets eaten up very quickly. My husband loves driving and we work hard. I hope one day the money will match up with the amount of work and sacrifice you make when you work in trucking.
Sara R only until you are replaced with self driving trucks
T Sal 😂
Sara R you married a truck driver?🤨wtf.
John J III he leaves for days when he gets home he busts her cheeks, while he's gone maybe she's getting her cheeks busted also , she looks like she has nice cheeks
Sara R
It all pretty much comes down to what you guys are hauling. The rates just aren’t there to match the expenses anymore. I haul cars own 1 truck or should I say the truck owns me. Rates are still decent but other companies are also coming in at cutting rates. Money management is the key. Good luck to you and your husband.
If I am in such high demand, I should be getting paid more.
Well said!
Future is near , driverless trucks are already a thing ;)
Hoo Flungpoo Business 101 right there.
I've been driving 21 years,the pay hasn't moved much,the laws have become unreasonable.
70.6% of the nations good are carried on the highway? Try 100%, after all those trains aren’t able to stop at Walmart to drop off freight.
Well, they mean between states. Not short runs.
Good point ! They should say 100 freaking percent ! Every single thing we buy and use are carried by these trucks.
dont matter that must only count for a finished product going to a store but what ablout the parts that were brought from around the country for that company to buld thier product that will eventually be shipped to a walmart or what not.
Your assumption does not beat scientific statistical analysis.
Erbec Pickell No it clearly doesn’t. 70.6% was the number.
There is no shortage of drivers, just a shortage people willing to work 70 hour weeks for minimum wage. The companies can't keep drivers because the pay is so bad. Go ahead ask me how I know this.
No you're 100% correct, I drove for Werner who claimed that they have "competitive pay", well their starting pay for me was 0.32 cpm with no downtime pay or layover pay.
Long hours and little money. I left after 7 months. Every other company was the same story, and all the good companies required AT LEAST 3 yrs experience.
I'm going into the Navy where I can not only drive trucks but do all kinds of other things.
sixstringsid how u know this ?
sixstringsid don't forget about all the free work. Been at it for 34 years. Agree with you 100%
Low pay. Small trucks with a thin mattress. No money. No comfort. No drivers.
If the companies made the driver want to be in the truck maybe the drivers would.
I know how you know,, just as I know your right.. I drove for 14 years.
Increase the pay and the treat them better, problem solved.
Yeah the owners need profit too expenses are too high to raise pay and two many hours? Stuff needs to get around and the brokers need drivers..
item price increase if you increase the salary.
@@superknightlol it's worth a 10 percent price increase to pay people decent wages
Even if they increased the pay the truckers would find something to cry about. They're like whiny little children.
@@jasonlyle3818 50k a year for slavery is messed up I can’t blame them
I was going to give the truck driving thing a shot.
The company I was going to work for was going to pay for my schooling and everything involved.
They were also nice enough to let me go on a ride along with a veteran trucker to show me how easy the job was....... this is where I decided not to be a trucker.
We went and picked up our product, loaded everything... so far so good. Then we had to drop it off in some city in the mountains. I was sleeping in the cabin and suddenly we stopped. I am told to hurry up and get out of the truck. I do so, when I open the curtains I notice we are just... on the road.. we aren't exactly pulled over.
Once I get out of the truck my heart drops..... the weight shifted going up the mountain and the trailer of the truck is hanging over a cliff. It was so steep I couldn't see down the bottom of the cliff.
That was the last day that being a trucker ever crossed my mind... the fact that nothing anyone did was wrong and yet this trucker and I almost lost our lives... just the random chance that a pallet was a little to wet, cause the boxes to fold... and the pallets to topple to the side while on a curve.
I have a huge respect for truckers because of this.... but my life is more than what they are paid
And the driver will get the blame at most big companies because if the load shifts it's obviously the driver's fault because he was going to fast around a turn.
The pay sucks that's why, would you sit at a truckstop 1000 miles from home waiting for another load for a day or more making nothing?
preach
Go independent.
Somebody explain to me, where these extra ppl are gonna park or sleep at. We don't have room for the drivers we got now.
pattherealist Walmart paid me $10/hour for 40 hours a week.....
As a janitor. Got benefits, too.
That's everybody's wage after 6 months.
good luck with that. Most Wal Marts now have no RV or Truck Parking signs and enforcing it.
wayne roll thank you thank you thank you amen.
Dealing with the Police State is another reason I gave it up years ago. Now more than ever, local Governments use Police forces to raise revenue, at the Driver's expense.
Johnny Wayne I see it all the time NHP (Nevada) is always pulling truckers over near Reno
Drivers in Europe are also on the target list for enriching government vaults with heavy fines.
No respect and appreciation given to the drivers, and too much harassment by the police. No wonder people don't want to do it.
Truckers haven't got a pay raise since 1980. Time for them to make $100k or more per year plus benefits. $100k should make it so people want to make the career change. 100k should be the starting wage.
Paul Crews lmao 😂
That is a DIRECT result of DE-REGULATION and UNION BUSTING !! That is what you get when you Vote for the GOP. PERIOD.
A pay raise just so the DOT can steal it.
@Gary Vestal not every trucker makes that lol. Specialized or guys who run their own rig sure. Majority of truckers are underpaid.
Please Stop dreaming...I will not miss a truck on the road:)
If there were a driver shortage, there would be piles of freight all over the country that can't get moved.
The 'driver shortage' is a myth they've been promoting for 20 years so they can bring in people from other countries, who they won't have to pay as much. Seriously, walk into any truckstop and you'll see.
Driver pay has not gone up since '03/'04 because of this. And it's 2017!
It's a myth.
Timothy Adams are you in the industry? Huge shortage, just go look at the job boards at any truck stop or, Craigslist, or any local paper you will always see adds for truck drivers. Get a clue.
It's a pay shortage, which translates into a driver shortage. Insurance dictates who companies hire, and keep. Risk of huge lawsuits is a deterrent to any company , and who they hire.
More like an excuse for automation
Mr. Adams I'm an otr driver and trainer. Most companies are short 100 - 200 drivers that a lot of empty trucks not moving. I can tell you most companies are needing to replace 60% of there fleet every year. I have been out here for 10 years. I may stay 10 more. I don't know. But I will am amazed that some people that have never got behind that 21" wheel would give any opinions about something they have no clue!
Because companies don’t want to pay truckers what’s fair, plus long periods of time away from home!
Owner operators should be paid no less than $3.5/ mile, and company drivers at least 0.75/mile.
Geraldo Moraes I personally have vowed to never turn another key until I'm paid 86cpm there national average speech has been heard in the same words of every trucking company I've talked to for the past 7 years 41 to 43 cpm these loads per truck pay enough to pay drivers experienced with clean records 86 cpm even easily pay .75 cpm but that cuts into there funding for there personal lives which is more important to them obviously
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Of course their personal lives are more important to them. So is everybody's personal life is more important to the individual living that life.
$41,000?!
Crap wages for the hours put in.
thats before taxes
How do you know that?
Blame it on DOT!
ButteredTank no on us for let them f us
Truckers need more money and more sleep and a lot more respect Merica
marzinjedi Take Away Respect For JACKED UP PICKUP DRIVERS And Give It Back To The REAL Truck Drivers!
Real Trucks Have 18 Wheels, Not Pickup Beds!!!
I'll Take A BISON Over Any SILVERADO Anyday, Or An LTL9000 Over Any F-150/Raptor, Or A BIG HORN 900 Over Any Ram, Any Day Of The Week. GMC GENERAL Too!
none of your business I've never been cut off by a T/T.
A Prius, however...
Smitty Werben Jaeger man Jensen i hear you....everybody think that they have the right away
RM K We do own the road. Interstates were designed for trucks
The trucking companies will lie to you about everything. Recruiters tell you what you want to hear. Then management will decide if you can go home for earned time off. Freight is what matters. Your safety is your responsibility. High mileage drivers, dictated what a safe driver gets. I worked for Marten, Interstate, Celadon, Swift and local companies. Not one company will care about your family well being. Your health is not important. Your just a number.
Robert Ruiz Very true statement.
If you die they'll replace you before your body is taken out of the truck.
@@r.d.9399 doesnt sound like they can hire anybody to fill current openings, let alone hire to fill new openings
@@andykapsar4667 It's not really a driver shortage. It's a proper pay shortage.
@Russ RV Freedom 37 I agree. Things would improve if companies weren't allowed to train their own students. If training was done by third parties under federal regulations they would be forced to pay proper wages. But the government doesn't care about companies abusing new drivers. That's why I believe we should let the freight rot and sit on the docks.
Drivers should be making at least 250k a year hands down the ends don't justify the means BS laws and regulations I hope nobody drive SHUT THE COUNTRY DOWN
I’m British and it’s the same here in the UK as it is in the US but it’s not all down to money that there is a shortage of truckers, it’s all the rules and regulations that come with the job, having said that I’m not saying there shouldn’t be any rules and regulations, governments and authorities have made it so hard that no one wants to do it anymore, too much crap involved.
frankbing1 WORD!
Ireland is the same..and it is about the money ! You can't change the nature of the beast..so pay me and pay me well for my very valuable time and effort.
Simple! The working conditions are bad and the pay is bad. It is a self imposed shortage.
too many regulations honestly I'm considering letting my cdl go. It's just too much for not enough I could just drive a box truck local and make as much.
Robert Bradshaw oh yeah no doubt! I mean I was an otr driver for 4 years and worked for a really good company marten the big blue Smurf trucks. They are an awsome company! Really good benefits exalent pay! My dispatcher was top notch! But now I work for a local out fit home every night weekends off and still making right at 900$ a week after taxes. With 70% less responsibility.
Ryan Haynes you can net $4000 a week in a box truck? Do tell....
I drive a route truck. Home every day. 80k a year. Full benefits and pension. No way I would ever go OTR.
I’m a millennial who started driving in 2012 still going strong. I love the solitude.
That's nice. Hope your company doesn't start putting cameras inside your trucks as some are doing that now. No more solitude if they do.
@@muffs55mercury61 that's bologna... if you have to fear the camera, you're probably not doing your job properly. Have a camera in my truck, it's inaccessible by the company, only activates under certain circumstances, and can be blocked while not driving so there's privacy... best of all, these cameras have saved my career TWICE...
@@daviking-88 no if companies can't trust their drivers they shouldn't have a company.
@@nahnah6765 not true. The camera in most companies cases has nothing to do with trusting their driver, it has to do with trusting other drivers around them. These cameras have saved my career twice already.
@@daviking-88 I've been out here for a long time. It has EVERYTHING to do with no trust. Do I blame them? No. Cause these new drivers are stupid. Playing with their phone instead of driving
I once had this idea that I thought would change the way freight was distributed.
1. We get rid of the otr positions. No one should be away from home for that long.
2. Companies could open up hubs all over the nation. Then drivers would just have to drive to a hub, drop the trailer, pick up another and then head back. They would be home daily.
3. Local driver would then take the stuff, and deliver it to it’s final destination from the last hub.
I truly think this could work.
Also it keeps drivers from getting stuck in some states with low freight.
R Shipley Welcome to the UPS or FedEX model.
Divers can jump seats in refrigerated units at the hubs.
CF, Yellow, Navajo and several other company's did this for years.
R Shipley this pretty much how UPS and Fedex Operate.
That is an excellent idea. That would allow drivers to be home more often.
Pay more and get more.... Is just that simple. I think they deserve it. They risk their life and they have to be away from their loved ones for weeks at time.
You say that now, but when your burger costs $1 more, you will have a fit.
Eric P - Did it ever occure to you the shareholders and the C.E.O's don't need to make millions of dollars. It's just the matter of priorities.
Demand may be up but not pay.
steve b so true I drive between Michigan and Laredo Texas and many of the people I meet are not very sharp I myself have over 10 years in the universities with no degree but grounded knowledge
steve b that's fine I'd rather get back to what I was doing for 30 years repairing musical instruments but nobody wants things fixed they just want shiny new Chinese crap
steve b Good thing I’m a mechanic as well as a driver
The pay is too low and the hours are long. Receivers and shippers treat drivers like crap.
Stiffer regulations is why I got out of it after 20 yrs.
Sinister
Same. Just got out myself
I want too also..
Me too, drove for 12 years, got out in 2008.
Between CSA, TWIC, HazMat, elogs, cab cams, dispatch and safety virtually riding in the cab with you, 10 hour rests, no wonder people are quitting.
The only people willing to drive trucks nowadays are young people, they don't know how things used to be, so they accept the way things are today.
It's terrible that they want the equipment to be in good repair and the drivers getting enough sleep.
Over regulation buy states and increasing federal regulation along with a difficult job has caused many drivers to park their rigs. The brokers make all the money and they control the business end. The truckers bear the high maintence and fuel cost and trouble living on the road for weeks at a time earning often times less than minimum wage. Many drivers decide to work food service etc. And be home evernight in their beds with familly.
you're right 100 percent im in the foodservice industry and i made $94,000 last year its a tough job going up and down a ramp but im home 90% of the time and when i do layover its in a hotel the company pays for
The oilfields then ur money b on JACK!$$
But that's all part of free market capitalism, right? So it must be good for you, that's the great american conservative way! Suck it up, snowflakes, and be a patriot! Make America Great Again!
the fault is also from the government
the government does nothing, to help the owners of trucks
The ATA represents large carriers, not the driver. Don't be fooled.
doinken1 How About OOIDA??
Truck drivers are getting robbed
Yyyuugggiiooohhhhh
In 1979-1980 I was making $32,000 per year as a company driver. Home every week. Translated to today's wages, that would be equivalent to $110,000 per year. Yes, pay is the biggest issue. Pay sucks now. And the electronic logs are the 2nd biggest drawback along with elimination of the split break. The newer rules FORCE tired drivers to drive!
yeah the e-logs stink for drivers, no more having 3 different log books. Thank goodness DOT don't know how many miles from where you came from. I would have many violations. They are too many regulation for us. I can no longer drive because I had neck surgery which is not the cause of me obtaining my physical, but I have nerve damage from it and i have to take a drug called Lyrica to stop my burning and shaking. I still have my class A hoping that they will except it, otherwise I would be back on the road. I never really understood the split break, I tried it and almost had so many violation in the Oregon DOT pit stop. They just got frustrated with me and told me not to do it. LOL oh well.
no I hated it, but to get miles that was the only way to do it. Spending hours doing and redoing logs. No I hated it. I know my dispatch knew what I was doing, because they would have on my qualcom three loads at a time, not many other drivers had that, they actually was mad because I got miles. I drove some with a E-log and not to sure if I like them. I never took a break, I did stop to go to the bathroom, but not to eat. I had a whole kitchen in the back. And shoot, a DOT officer here taught ME how to legally do some of it, at least giving me extra time.
With paper logs my company wanted me to drive tired
Yup, my uncle had his own truck in the 80s and he made 100k a year
hottrodscars yes ELOGS are dangerous and stupid.
Pay truck drivers more, and more people will be truck drivers. It’s not a difficult concept.
The difficult concept is that the profit margin is lowe enough as it is the owners get paid way too little think of mechanics fuel tires and so on the prices for maintenance and so on are way too much for 75 an hour which the owners get paid and than pay the drivers more? not possible the owners need better pay for higher wages for the drivers we need drivers!
Keep the money, get the DOT off truckers backs!
Do you happen to work for Huff and Puff flatbed ?
Semi's illegally park at walmart but its because there is no such thing as a Semi parking space.
I get pulled over in Texas for roadside inspection once every two weeks sometimes twice in one day...WTF!!!
Check your truck as you're suppose to and get less violations.
Some are unavoidabled.
ELD was the final nail in the coffin.
Trucker McGhee your right.
I'm going to trucking school in 2 weeks man and these comments are discouraging ha, I just read about the ELD and wow it sucks man.
@@hazard1371 Are you paying for your own training or is a big carrier paying you?
You're better off getting a CDL on your own money and having the freedom to pick what company you work for. You could even drive construction equipment and make 16 to 20 dollars an hour while being home every night
Or find a small company where you can have a personal relationship with your boss. I drive less and make more than some schmuck just starting out working for, say, CR England. It is possible to still make it in this industry, you just have to avoid the big carriers
Warner was the first company to implicate the elog back in the late 90s
I did 25 years and only ran just ONE LOGBOOK
at any one time..
If I couldn't do " THE JOB " and do it legally, And
still make a living with it, there would be no point
doing " THE JOB " at all ....
Need more money, I used to drive truck and still hold a cdl. Got out of it because of the Money, now making 5 times what I was making. Truckers should be making between $100,000.00 and $200,000.00 per year depending on experience.
If you’re going to get into trucking don’t just settle as a company driver. If you want to make the big money become an owner operator or start your own business. The trucking industry is very lucrative if you navigate the smart way
Jeff L what do you do now?
Adrienna Mindyabiz I use to drive for years also. I’m making about 3x a year what I was making driving. I still hold my cdl and use it frequently at work. I’m a skilled laborer for a heavy highway road construction company in southeast PA and do all prevailing wage work.
Adrienna Mindyabiz lol you and me both
@Adrienna Mindyabiz Do Car Carrier/Hauling work pays excellent start with a EZ4, Mini-5 or Max 6 and Do 2/3 Local Runs Per Day you will Profit Between $200-$300per Trip After Expenses and that depends obviously on your truck situation and how much you choose to Pay yourself
no more money in trucking
Ernesto Dgre8t Self driving rigs are coming anyway.
Get rid of scales, dot , taxes 🤔
John Gallo Get Rid Of WIND, The CHP, LAPD, NHP, AHP, UHP, NMSP, KHP, Navaho Sherriff, Lyon Sherriff, etc. For Starters.
Plus Those DAMN LAPD HELICOPTERS!!!!
John Gallo now u talkn
Get government out of it.
Because the trucking companies are ripping their own drivers off and the regulations are absurd. There's your story.
The biggest problem is, if you compare average hourly rates (and consider time and a half for over time), truck drivers make about as much as burger flippers. It's just that burger flippers work 30 hours a week, and truck drivers work 60-70 hours a week. Really sad if you think about it.
Your employers organize so they can make more money and have drivers work under more difficult conditions. What are you going to do to change that? Probably nothing.
The labor laws have made it difficult for employees to organize, unfortunately.
I realize that the laws have changed and that it is more difficult to organize, but I don't see another solution.
You don't even make minimum wage if you figure the hours most of the time.
I quit driving after trucks after 20 yrs cause the pressure from eld watching my hours co slowing the trucks down I couldn’t even run 70 mph on the Ohio turnpike other bs, I got a job at stocking shelves at a membership store working 40 hrs a week and home every nite 5 days a week and make darn near as much money as trucking. Go figure!
if a burger flipper at McDonald's gets $15/ hr. , truck drivers should get $35/ hr. MINIMUM !
John Wymer
Hook up with the U.S Postal transportation service truck driver division. Great pay, health benefits, double time, vacation & personal time, savings & retirement plan, home every night/ day, relocation if available/wanted. No corporation greed or pressure.
Quinton McHale where is the pay for McDonald’s which state
Rachelle Joachim
I said " if" .
Quinton McHale I see know but you know what someone did tell me New York pay that much for fast food
Rachelle Joachim yes, but the pay scales & costs of living vary from state to state. Whereas a small apartment in W.virginia is 500/ month , in N.Y city it's 2000/month. Go to the U.S postal service web site & apply for a position to get your foot in the door. Government treats their employees very well ! Most private companies will stick it in your ear ,cheat you and terminate you if you look at them the wrong way.
BELIEVE ME !
the pay sucks!! McDonald's will pay more.
goldie mack, I use to count all the hours that past from when I get to the yard to when I and back at the yard to go home. I told my boss a few times that McDonald's people qould get paid more for those hours. My boss abuse me so much in so many ways, I eventually quit.
goldie mack , that can't be true, if so go get a job at McDonald's.
HI LO/LO . Sr. I make 168k a year.... let me give you the avg figures. 2,000 miles at 0.32 cpm. = 640$ working 7 days a week. That before taxes. McDonald's 9$ hr x 40hrs 360$ before taxes. Add 10hrs of overtime 135$ = 495$ before taxes.....look how close those numbers are. Truckers work 70hr wk MCD work 40 to 50hrs wk its the same money. Trucking is DANGEROUS.
sound like you need a big Mac and fries , and a good day safe at the grill, get out while you can...good luck sir
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I’m not blaming them it’s just that a lot of them are taking jobs that don’t pay as good and the companies are taking advantage of it and expecting older drivers like me with 35 yrs experience and a clean record to work for the same money a lot of foreigners think that 28 to32 cents a mile is great money because that’s what they were making over there but here that’s nothing, I’ve had companies offer me 32cents a mile and I walked out I told them I was making 28 cents a mile as a first year rookie back in the 80 s
In 2010, I went to the orientation for SWIFT thinking I was gonna get 36 cents a mile for the first year because that's what the paperwork I had received from the CDL school said. Instead, because so many people were out of work and becoming truck drivers they lowered their starting pay to 23 cents a mile for your first 30 days solo then 26 cents a mile for the first year with a 1 cent raise each year after that. Going to work for them would have been financial suicide and luckily I got a job driving a box truck making $15 an hour to start. Now I drive a tri-axle dump truck making good money and never had to go over the road. Yay!
0.38 cents per mile is slavery, I hope this doesn’t get worse.
$41k is the average eh. What you give up for that is your lifestyle. You’re working to pay for stuff you barely get to use. 30 days over the road for 4 days at home. You’re gone 10 or 11 months out of the year. Personal health deteriorates. The trade off is unjust. A trucker has to pay for their home life and OTR life. We get paid so little because every shipper wants to pay as little as possible to move the product so it’s cheaper for the consumer meanwhile we truckers are the ones who suffer in seclusion away from home.
Chris Estabon or the broker
Chris Estabon bingo
Chris Estabon "working for stuff you barely get to use" he'll you can't even afford to buy anything...
Chris Estabon Member 2 vote for Trump and the GOP. He'll set it awright!
John Walker he doesn't care about truck drivers. You need to contact Congress, they're the one who manage all of this
We truckers should be more money why? Because we are risking are lives and others on the road. Most grown as men I speak with say they are scared of driving a rig and killing ppl and themselves. Very big responsibility.
Also, truck drivers can just put misspelt words in any order they want and still be awesome! Just like Nuck Chorris!
Iv been a cdl driver for 22 years. To many rules & heavy penalties for the smallest thing. I hate the trucking industry.
mr. m
Come to south texas. D.o.t. will stand by the scale light button with binoculars waiting for a truck they like then hit the lights to pull em in. From there, it's violation frenzy!
Same here.
There are too many trucks now! The freight prices are low, freight for flatbed is too low, parking is a terrible problem!
@Karl how are you doing
It's more complicated than pay and hours. There's a major lack of places for a truck to park when the driver needs to sleep. When you stop on a ramp or side of the road, police will make you move. That in turn screws with the legal hours you need to sleep and drive with. If you don't drive hard, often they will make you spend your home time in the loading yard in the back of a Walmart distribution center as punishment. If they don't dispatch you to a customer, you're stuck where you are. In the deepest cold nights, police will make drivers turn their trucks off (Some states it's illegal to idle your truck). So you have a choice, 1) disobey the police, 2) drive though you're legally not permitted because of hrs, 3) freeze to death (I know of one driver that did. I knew the man and his family). There's so much more. Bad equipment, not getting paid for miles. filthy truck stops. Truckers often are treated like animals. It's not the pay, it wasn't for me, I left because I had respect for myself and there's way to many people giving you orders. BTW, being an owner operator is risky and hard, but if you can make that work, that can be very fun because you plan for yourself.
haha, yes I have to admit, truckers have ingenuity when it comes to fixing the truck, cooking and staying warm; lot lizards excluded ;)
i know a couple drivers that there company were screwing them like that....they parked the truck and called the company and let them know they need to send a driver to drive the truck and locked it up and flew back home..lol
Wow...EXACTLY my reasons...plus ! It is just a matter of time til this industry comes to a dead STOP... NOT if...but WHEN...
is that why so many trucks are stopped on the side of the freeway on 680 in Sunol (CA) ? i usually do an early morning commute (i have work at 5am) and i always see sooo many trucks stopped on the shoulder. many of them are turned on . :0
Is there an app where people can find places to park? If not then there should be.
I drove for 6 months and that was enough.
I'd rather would work an hourly 40-50hr/week job, have the weekends off and be able to still make near the same amount all while
1. Actually having a social life
2. Being able to eat healthy and go workout 5 day a week
3. not deal with all the bs, regulations, bs fines
4. The winter months are 100% horrible for driving in many northern states (at least from my experience), my income was substantially limited by the weather/snow storms so you make way less while facing more dangers, and still committing to 70 hour weeks. However once spring/summer arrived driving became far more enjoyable + more miles.
40 hour week jobs with weekends off no longer exists in this country! Long gone are those days!
@@sssbattleaxe work for Walmart .....
D Based Why'd you even come to trucking without doing research and learning what the lifestyle is like?
@@sssbattleaxe go to a megacarrier to get experience and leave after 1-2 years for another company, don't go to swift though.
No home time, harassed by cops, treated like garbage by dispatchers, treated like garbage by shippers, treated like garbage by everyone, nowhere to park, not being paid detention, rejected trailers, waiting 2 hours to take a shower, waiting 2 hours to get fuel, other drivers blocking you in, and that's just the beginning. Until companies start treating drivers better, they'll never keep the seats filled. I'm about done after 27+ years. I hate it.
ouch
thanks for info
i was looking at trucking
now i will keep looking for another line of work
Trucker's need to go on strike.
Didnt know it was that bad
I wont do this job with only 41k a year. No way!
2 words police harassment
I bet. I feel bad every time I drive by Home Depot here and the local cops have yet another truck pulled over. Like every time I've went by they have a driver pulled over. Extortion really.
Drive through Ohio lately , they pull trucks over just for fun... Give hard working innocent drivers just trying to make an honest living a fine , a bad day. That's why they can't find drivers.... They f*ck with us for no reason..
20 yrs in the business, very simple, raise the pay, driver shortage dissappears.
14 hour days for $41k a year.
Maybe for the newbies. I average about 10.5 hours per day for $65k + benefits. (And only 5 days per week, home every night.) I've been at it a while and know where to make decent enough money.
One of my friends works a little more but pulls in $85k and is also home daily. You can make money if you're a good driver and consistent worker.
Luck you
AT ONE TIME A DRIVER WAS A DRIVER AND ALL PAID THE SAME,ROAD WORK PAID MORE BECAUSE YOU WERE NOT HOME AND COMPENSATED WELL FOR IT,UNTIL DEREGULATION IN 83'.
Chris Estabon make 150k as a o/o and work 4 off 3
Chris Estabon I work 4 days a week (local home every night) off every wednesday and every weekend. And make 65k about 11 hrs a day. Its just you have to find the right job. Otr for a low life company like swift, pam or schneider you arent gonna make any money. UPS hires you in at 19 an hr after 3 yrs you make top pay 36 dollars and hr.. not bad at all. Actually its more than just about any other career that your not going to college for 6 plus yrs. The pipeline drivers usually are a part of a teamsters union and bring just under 4k a week home.
I left trucking due to the Dot regs ever increasing, in cab cameras and the slow decrease in pay
In cab cams?? Aimed only at the road I guess?
Gary Russell nope driver cams bud
Truck driving is hard, even when driving local and to make matters worse they put way too much responsibility like paperwork and other things and the pay does not match the responsibility especially when you haul HAZMAT
Been trucking for 14 years and I had enough. When the ELD mandate hits, I'm done. I'm taking up computers.
It's quite simple. Truck driving is a "doing skill" and less of an analytical expertise acumen.
I'm not disparaging truck drivers at all!!! In fact, in many ways, what they do is MUCH harder than what engineers or computer coders do. They have real time, real life consequences if they mess up.
But compensation is never based on difficulty, it's based on societal changes. Your skill set has to be where society is headed. Driver-less trucking is most likely the future.
Society and change is brutal. Nobody cares if one is the best at a skill that is being replaced.
It's a sad fact. Well rounded individuals with both brains and brawn and/or good hand eye coordination are being replaced by emaciated beta super genius nerds bordering on the autism spectrum.
Truck drivers should not be ashamed, and they should occasionally punch a nerd that spends all day on their computer. ;)
16 years ago I got into trucking because I thought I could bring my family into middle class wealth.. wrong I'm struggling every day. Need more pay and benefits.. and home time.
Matthew bourque what about a single guy with no kids or wife?
Brandon Boyden IF you want to LIVE in your truck, eat sandwiches and ramen every day, SAVE EVERY PENNY YOU CAN, and I mean every penny. Don't pay rent anywhere, I mean literally live in your truck you can make a little. If you can do it after a couple years you might have a decent bank account. Average pay is around 40,000 for a NEW DRIVER. Don't believe everything you see or are printed on those little cards at your local pilot by the bathrooms. The cents per mile suck, and you're going to have to get 500 miles a day, every day! If you drive hard it's not that hard. You can get 600 in a day if your lucky. There's A LOT that goes into trucking. I could go on and on. It's not black and white, there's a lot of grey area. I've only had my class A for 3 years and drove hard for 2 company's at a year a piece. It's NOT worth it.
are you still poor?
Matthew bourque IAM so glad I never spent $$$ on CDL training
I have about 12 years left to retire.. (if i can afford it).. driving since i was 19. seen alot of changers in regulation and the respect factor.. Made more money in 80s and early 90s then i do know. Todays truckers are not as glorified as much as we once were..we are told we are a dime a dozen. Its a real shame. Alot of good drivers out there and yes some bad.. The boat and the fishing poles look better every day.!! lol. Cant wait to rip up my CDL..
Start saving now .. I retired in 2012 due my health..
I'm getting by on $1280.00 a month.. it's not that hard to do
but you gotta be real conservative and keep close track of
every buck you spend each month.. What I'm getting is
all the reward for 25 years watching that white line whizzing
by at all hours of the day in the most horrid weather conditions
imaginable ....
41,000? I make 55,000 in a driving position , and I'm home every night. Want more truck drivers ? Stop useing the trucks as sweat shops on wheels.
sunrise1776 I make more money too and I drive a trash truck .. they need to pay truckers way more
Jesse Mitchell not everyone wants to work in the mines man.. you have my respects and you earn every dollar !
Swift or any other feudalists entity still live with 16-17 century way of exploiting the workers to the max irrespective of the drivers mental & psychological state. I'm a 3 million miler owner operater who quit in 2006. Give it shut and see bro. Good luck.
Spent most of 20 years OTR, just got tired of being treated like a 3rd class citizen, yeah... by shippers, receivers, and dispatchers... but overregulation and greedy government officials are getting worse and worse. I actually enjoyed the travel, the trucks, and most of the people. Companies are being incentivized to pick up "newb" drivers, even going out of country for new hires, and you can see the result at nearly any truck stop... CDL mill graduates who can't really handle the equipment, and are easily baffled when they run across lane markings they weren't properly trained to recognize. How often have you gotten stuck behind a Swift or PAM driver stopped in a merge lane, craning his or her head to see what should have been in their mirror... if they'd continued on to the acceleration lane?
Jak Conrad Or Being RUN OFF THE ROAD For No Reason By A TLI Driver (YES, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU, TRANSCO LINES OUT OF RUSSELLVILLE ARKANSAS AND BROKEN ARROW OKLAHOMA!!! 😠 I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU AND YOUR 140 MPH OUTLAW OUTFIT!!!)
Here is why it is happening.
1: Government legislation has ruined the fun in truck driving.
2: Declining buying power of U.S. dollar has made it not pay to work in truck driving.
3: Increase security has jacked up the sitting and not driving time.
4: Annoying truck scales.
5: Computer truck logs.
David Anttila #6: HIGH WIND WARNING!!!
#7: TRUCKSTOP PROSTITUTION!!
Am I the only one that prefers e-logs over paper?
David Anttila and cameras
#2 is the reason every job sucks.
Stop paying with mileage calculator like practical, and other calculators, pay drivers door to door and pay the waiting time from the first to the last hour. That would be a huge step forward to keep drivers in the industry and bring new drivers on driver’s seat. Just these two points among many and many others.
@Jodi hello how are you doing
Not enough money, plus who would want to do this job you are separated from your family all the time
Dylan Newell I agree with you 1000% I don't trust these m************ something is up with all this new technology coming out they have their think tanks already in place they know what they're doing you're right
I make 2,100 a week. I'm hone 12 days and home for 3. Seems alright to me.
Will, what company is that?
JacMan BDj which is located around chicago. Another company called bdm also pays .70 cpm
Will McKinley company driver or OO
Most of it is the government. There will always be a trucker shortage. From high tickets, to the rules of service, child support, to other reckless under regulated car drivers. Everything plays a part.
Federal Minimum Wage for a Class a Driver would be $19.50 period!
Radioman909 when?
CHICAGO BUS DRIVER MAKES 34HR PLUS 8 HR DAY'S AND TRAIN YOU
Drivers don't have a minimum wage. They get paid by the mile
wally so do they supply a bullet proof vest?
marc mo Lmao
The trucking industry got rid of 90,000 truck drivers just last month.The industry wants to keep everything for themselves and not pay the truck drivers.Thats the real problem.GREED 😠😠😠😠😠😠
When the money gets right the drivers will be there.
Trucker Snake They can always replace us with someone that's a sandwich maker at subway. In the promise of the open road and big money. Also instead of them making 300$ every two weeks and trucking can also pay them 500$ every week to them they're making big money.
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@Hi how are you doing
thats true!!
The problem is being paid by the mile. You don't get paid sitting waiting to load or unload. Plus you can only drive 11 out of 14 hours and you have to take mandatory breaks not to mention the idiotic E-logs, emissions standards and tins of regulations put out there by people who have never turned a wheel.
Aaron Sanborn when I started in this business I was told that I couldn't be paid by the hour because there was no way to keep track of the time. Well, with ELD's now there is. Hourly pay, with overtime after 40, and layover pay when there's no freight, or no log hours. That's the only thing that will fix it.
BINGO too much intervention..
I am a car hauler and I had to work hard to learn my trade. I have 38 years experience. I made over $78K in 2006.
Last year I barely made over $55K. Deregulation is what ruined truck driving. There was a time just before I started in 1980 that the rates were froze and adjusted annually but deregulation allowed companies to bid freight as low as they wanted to go and it has been downhill ever since.
DEreg ?
And I made 52k ..and I was home every day..glad I gave up otr crap for a few extra k's a year!!...
Kyp Sunrider
otr company
55k a year -did that
oilfield- home everyday off every other weekend
160k a year- did that too
Now
Otr- booking my own loads
Stay out 2 maybe three weeks
Home for as long as i like
I no longer deal with large carriers or smaller companies that pay a driver .35 to .45 cent a mile
And believe me these companies are making money
Example
2100 mile run i booked payed the truck 10500
Mysellf as a "company driver" made 2,625$
1 pick 1 drop
Emptied then booked a load 650 miles payed the truck 3900
I made $975 off that run
My week began on a thursday
Finished out the following Wednesday
Do the math
These big companies are making money
Meanwhile paying the driver 30-40cent pm
Or the local driver 15-20$ an hr
And yes ive booked a LOT of short haul
65 mile runs that payed the truck 1800$
100 mile runs paying 2300 to the truck
Dave Klem in my observation car haulers are speeding more than any other trucker. Why is this?
Chris Montreuil I wouldn't know how to answer that. My truck is turned down to 68 and I mostly Drive about 65. I know from my observation I'm the only one that's paying attention to the speed limit in construction zones. I've had so many drivers passed by me and slow down to look at me and put their hands up in the air because they don't understand why I slow down
With $9000 ( one of my drivers got for forgetting to put down a tag axle) tickets and more regulations than a hospital emergency room who would want to own or drive a truck!
Truck drivers need more respect!
Laurenzio GM I agree they/we need more respect on the road and from the companies we make rich with our labor, but I had many incidents with fellow truck drivers being the disrepectful ones to a fellow truck driver.
I don't care about respect,i want more pay,respect is only girls!
You give a demand, but no method to accomplish what you want... better results effected if given a method ....
That's right!
respect is earned, never given
The trucking companies treat drivers like dirt, most keep drivers segregated from the office staff. Shippers and receivers treat drivers like dirt and mostly refuse to let drives rest on their property. And the general public treat drivers like dirt. Not to mention how all levels of government treats them. And for the whipping boys before you reply...................... You may have bought this on yourselves, but it wasn't I..........................
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Was an owner operator for 5 years....
All the money went back into the truck. .
Sam Ford . Yep. Intermodal out of CSX in Worcester, Mass
Ozzie Crosby 9
because you had a used truck. .new truck no problem
Ozzie Crosby remedios para la tos
Floyd McKenziR
Hogan transportation is a amazing job. 72k per year 4 days a week, 40 hrs a week. Home every night. If You live near detroit metro. Look in. Into it.
Swift drivers giving interviews.... I stop watching after that point..........
is that the worst co. ?
Koss Transportation lol
As a tow truck driver id say crst are the worst
Rich Marshall CRST, Swift, Werner they're about the same, LOL!
That is funny you say Werner is bad. But I’m from what I hear they are good.