I think Luffy got sandbagged a lot in this conversation even in the discussion of him ranking up because the written test was never about actually getting a high score like Naruto literally didn’t write anything on it and he passed, also we seen from saskue and Lee if you are fast enough you can bypass garra’s sand which I think Luffy would easily and even if you bring up the one tails if we are doing a full swap Luffy doesn’t have to beat the one tail he just has to hit a unconscious garra really hard to “wake him up” lastly pain vs luffy you could argue luffy could just sense him as even Rayleigh was able to sense every animal that was stronger than luffy on the island he trained on and if that is to far of a stretch luffy could use the same method Naruto used with the chakra rods since they are connected to nagato but even without that yes it’s 6 v 1 but luffy is faster, can see into the future, and is arguably physically stronger than sage mode Naruto and the only pain that showed any durability was the deva path the others were literally one shot basically plus the summons are animals you can argue luffy knocks them unconscious with conquers that only valid hard fight is Madara, obito, Kaguya, and finally fight saskue
I think you guys missed the point in luffy vs crocodile, the reason luffy lost to crocodile wasn't because of any sand attacks. Crocodile has the ability to drain moisture out of anything he touches and he defeated Luffy using his moisture absorption ability in both fights, not sand
Tbf any situation where Naruto has the potential to die Kurama comes out. So it’s really can any pre time skip OP character beat Kurama and not necessarily Naruto himself.
@kevincervantes427 how is it different. All he did he purposefully force his sand to absorb all the moisture out of luffy. That's what happens when your submerged in sand with no matter in sight. Ofc in real life it takes longer but it's definitely nothing like a power it's just something he can do with sand
@@phantxmblxze the sand in Naruto has never been shown to suck moisture from someone like in one piece. Also what’s the point of mentioning real life sand when these are both fantasy shows. One of Crocodiles abilities is to be able to suck moisture out of people.
@@DeathandBeeZlike how can sasuke got that big birb? He must be found the nest and tamed one. Or imagine if pain summon is actually real monster species. I can't believe there is a pack of cerberus monster that strong af
i agree with the wouldnt want to be hokage, but he would care about the villagers, just as he cared for the random cannon fuater of some army, random people of wano like luffy deffinitly cared about that
I LOVE how they bring up Naruto and his 1000 shadow clones in Marineford and how they wouldn't know the real one as if they don't got observation haki. When Luffy fought Mr. 3 and Mr. 3 made clones Luffy's subconsciously used haki to hit the real one and this is BEFORE they knew about haki, so she slipped up there
@@frosty37 The reason they couldn't see is because the Chakra is distributed equally but observation haki can sense where the real person is without having to sense haki or chakra, yet again like with Mr. 3 and his wax clones, and removing the ones from the conversation he can sense danger even without future site and not looking like when he fought Katakuri. Think of it like Spiderman senses, he wa able to see through people's tricks like when they showcased in when he fought mysterio at the end of far from home or Naruto bring able to sense malicious intent because of Kurama
@@SimplyHawa The reason they couldn't see is because the Chakra is distributed equally but observation haki can sense where the real person is without having to sense haki or chakra, yet again like with Mr. 3 and his wax clones, and removing the ones from the conversation he can sense danger even without future site and not looking like when he fought Katakuri. Think of it like Spiderman senses, he wa able to see through people's tricks like when they showcased in when he fought mysterio at the end of far from home or Naruto bring able to sense malicious intent because of Kurama
And they're comparing Enel's lightning to sasuke's pre timeskip chidori. Like Enel is literally summoning lightning from the heavens. Pre timeskip naruto ain't on that level.
@@TheLostSheep578i mean tbf child saskue outran and cut a lightnight bolt in half, idk where naruto would’ve been relative to that but yeah i mean definitely a lot of feats
Bro Enel is so underestimated, Luffy only won bc he literally had a counter and Enel didn’t expect it. Comparing Sasuke and Enel with Lightning abilities is crazy ngl good Video tho
Ya I think Naruto could only win if he was to get 3 tails from the nine tails pre timeskip which he wasn’t able to do. Also people don’t realize how strong luffy’s opponents like crocodile and Enel actually were. He only beat enel because of a direct counter.
I think this was a pretty fair evaluation. However, I think it would be flipped for me. I feel like pre-time skip Luffy would have an easier time than Naruto and post time skip Naruto would have an easier time than Luffy. They mentioned how Luffy isn’t as technical as Naruto and that would be a problem in the fights. However, for me if we’re talking about pre-time skip that wouldn’t really matter. Pre time skip Luffy is way stronger and faster than pre time skip Naruto and the only fight I see becoming an issue for him is Garra’s full transformation after the churning exams. However I don’t think Luffy would even let it get that far. Additionally, I feel like Luffy’s goal of being a free ninja tracks with his character more than Naruto wanting to be in the revolutionary army. My reasoning being is if you look back on what drove Naruto to want to become Hokage in the first place it’s not because he admires them or seeks to be a righteous person. The opening of the show is literally him writing on the Hokage faces and disrespecting them! The real reason is because he wants to be seen and heard that’s his whole motivation throughout the show and I know he later revises that once he starts getting it after the Pain fight. However, I just don’t see him seeking that out in the one piece verse in the same sense of how Luffy has always wanted to be free since he was a kid. I feel like if anything Naruto would be either a normal person or join the marines like Coby. Since it seemed like they were just assuming Naruto would know the marines are bad and additionally he would even be able to find the army in the first place to join them.
i aint reading allat but thats defo true luffy would smoke all of naruto pre and probaly faulter and lose around post but naruto would struggle a bit in pre and then struggle a bit but still kind of smoke post
To be honest, I feel like I agreed in some takes, but keep in mind that Naruto trap himself to not be free anymore when he became Hokage when he become Hokage is his responsibility to deal with everybody’s problem, and what’s going on and it made him not free anymore. On the other hand, Luffy is more freedom. Whatever he is when he becomes the king of the Pirates, he can do whatever he wants. No one is gonna oppose what he does, and he can just be adventure with his friends, all fond of the freedom that everybody wanted. In nature world there is peace, but it’s not freedom. They’re not free. There’s still limitation there’s that’s why it’s hard
@@karktzy2822 I agree with you on the fact that luffy wouldn't get through post naruto and that naruto would strugle more in pre but in my opinion, the same way naruto would loose to enel and would strugle against crocodile, I think luffy would have a hard time gatting through gaara and kimimaru. And lets not kidd our selves, naruto would smoke post OP (besides logia) based on the fact that he has a molecular attack and can make thousands of shadow clones with deacent strength, speed, and tijutsu
@@danielhateley2412 but isn’t it also said that the molecular attack targets the fine chakra threads and not really the cells themselves. If that’s the case it wouldn’t really affect people in the One Piece verse since they don’t have chakra.
Probably to start with but I don't see him being ok with the corruption, the ruthlessness of Akainu and the nonsense of the Celestial Dragons. He would almost certainly turn on them eventually.
@@abdihakimjama1556I mean the leaf village was pretty corrupt. The war in the rain, Danzo, Uchiha massacre, sakumo killing himself, minato making his own son a weapon to help the village, Itachi trying to brainwash Sasuke to help the village, etc..
Fair enough. Though, I don't believe Naruto ever figured that out and it looks like it has been cleaned up in Boruto (probably by Kakashi). @@carljohnson7168
I think the whole weak to piercing/slashing attacks is blown outta proportion. It’s not like Pokémon types, luffy is weak to slashes like how normal human beings are, it’s not like someone pulls out a sword and luffy is just immediately cooked
Yeah instead of having a weakness, it’s more like Luffy is just strong against blunt attacks. Also lightning users ain’t doing nothing to my boy, ain’t no way Luffy doesn’t solo sasuke, bros whole arsenal is lightning. Naruto solos Luffy tho
The concept of slashing attacks vs blunt attacks went out the window when haki was introduced. He can haki up and defend against attacks and blunt attacks still hurt him if haki is involved
Gamabunta is and Naruto has access to Kyushu cloak which acts like a shield he got pierced with chidori and literally regenerated in a flash and enel is getting put down in one hit unlike Naruto who enel needs to hit several times
@@Thatfan864 and how is naruto hitting enel? enel has future sight, this fight just isn't winnable in the slightest for naruto - luffy only won bc he is made of rubber
@@uhb_menacewell they say that because Chidori is a piercing attack it would work on Luffy. But of course they seem to not understand that it's still a blunt force jab coated in electricity. If we use CM2 Sasuke then he has claws so there's an argument there, but Luffy has survived a similar level of being punctured and the electrical properties of Chidori will do absolutely nothing to Luffy.
blunt attacks not physical, he'd be able to bounce off a lot of punches that don't have special properties (so I could see gentle fist hurting him) while a sword slash still cuts him
No I don't think so bro the amaterasu would burn him you are forgetting he is a rubber man he is kinda immune to lightning him touching it isn't really a big deal like you make it out to be.
@@vuild6635 he would run around tailed beasts enhanced rennegan sasuke who can swap himself between spaces no I don't think so even if he turned the susano'o into rubber for few seconds that would not affect sasuke at all.
@@sinoxolombovane5455 I don’t think you are understanding what I mean fire just like lightning is an energy which Luffy can alter it into rubber then manipulate it plus Luffy has survived several times form being burn by fire from Kaido’s Blast Breath which could melt a mountain while Amaterasu is a slow burning fire that will die out after 3 days
@@HeraclesN-fp1bw show me luffy touching a fire then we can talk because even with kaido's hell breath luffy didn't turn it into rubber he deflected it back to kaido by turning the ground into rubber if he could turn flames into rubber he would have turned it into rubber stop the head canon.
Luffy can fly and warp reality, bro is tripping, first of all floating aint the same as flying, and Luffy didnt warp no reality. Get ur facts straight. also naruto can fly and swim@@jpraise6771
This whole Chidori would work on Luffy is very false. As we know electricity doesnt work on Luffy, but for the piercing part of the attack, it also wouldn't work because hands are a blunt force and if you disagree I would like to say that Lucci used Finger Pistol (piercing attack)in his base form on Luffy and it had no effect on because the hand like finger was dull. It was only until Lucci grew sharp claws, that the Finger Pistol worked.
This wasn’t much of a debate, really neither side got to argue and have their arguments heard, Additionally when comparing fights what made each fight wasn’t talked about at all, from the character motvlicatiins to even the challenges of the fights. Genuinely this doesn’t sway people one way or another it’s just a fun conversation with friends
Are we forgetting Naruto doesn’t have Haki? Yea he may find out the water weakness with Crocodile, But ENEL??? That man isn’t made of rubber so he wouldn’t be able to touch him
@@sinoxolombovane5455Enel lighting can destroy all of the shadow clones like you don’t know how strong enel is, the only reason he even lost is due to luffy rubber being completely immune to his lighting attacks. If he became a pirate he would easily be more then 500 million berries and ain’t no way Naruto is ever beating him without any haki
@@vuild6635 I know enel would destroy the clones for the most part but Naruto is a spammer so I feel like he would use them to find an opening it's in his character but I do agree Naruto from part 1 would get stomped but 4 tails Shippuden Naruto I don't think so.
that guy with the Beanie goofy as hell, sayin Luffy can't hang in Naruto without Chakra, like half the Ninjas their ain't dying to bullets in One Piece or getting one shot by Fishmen, stronger than Kisame's goofy self
@@Darur1308 it think what you meant to say was "how can a man be so wrong." pre time skip?!!?? does he even know what happens in wano. pre time skip naruto isn't making it to wano.
@@Darur1308 i was talking about @c.comics5999. i was saying that instead of you commenting "what was even the point in saying that honestly" you should have instead said "how can a man be so wrong."
i thought it was going in order so beginning of naruto luffy at his strength in romance dawn would be put in and as the arcs progress luffy progresses to. even rob said when luffy fights pain he would surely have gear 4th. implying that luffy is still developing and not starting in egghead form.
How did you correlate the arcs? Are we going by when they grow in power or just arc by arc? Arc by arc doesn't make sense because One Piece has more arcs than Naruto in pre-ts alone (I think). Going by the former that means we skip all of Romance Dawn basically and after that Luffy would actually start to grow in strength, but which feats on each island do we use? Because even then there are still more pre-ts arcs in One Piece then in Naruto how would it even work?
I thought this would be more like Luffy having to live Naruto's life and vice versa. If that were the case, I think both characters will do well. Naruto living Luffy's life would be trained by Garp and he would want to become a good marine just like Garp. Luffy's will would be so strong that Kurama would never take over and he would be so charismatic that he'll win people over. He'll have a much easier time getting Kurama to work with him and controlling the 9 tailed chakra mode. I agree that he will become a rogue ninja and leave the village for adventure.
Narutos will is just as strong if not arguably stronger than Luffys so saying Luffy wouldn’t let kurama take over is a little disingenuous. Both have faltered their wills at some point in their stories. Naruto when Pain almost made him rip off the seal or when Obito mocked his ideology at him when Neji died. Luffy when he thought he lost his crew to kuma or when Ace died. Both instances would’ve made Luffy lose control over kurama. Saying he’d be able to work with kurama easier is also debatable. Similarly to how you can say Naruto has better battle iq so he’d likely come up with better and arguably more creative tactics to use his df.
@jaybronx98 If Luffy were to live Naruto's life where he was an orphan and ostrisized, it wouldn't bother Luffy as much. Yes losing Ace and his crew broke Luffy's will a bit but remember I used the scenario where he's living Naruto's life which referred to his childhood without parents and being ostricized by the village. In One Piece, Luffy didn't know his parents either but you never see him lie in bed and cried about it. That's what I meant. That's just Luffy's personality, even after losing Ace and being separated from his crew, he got over it pretty quick compared to Naruto. I kinda wanted to see him canonically dwell on it a bit more like Naruto lost Jiraiya. Naruto is more emotional and that makes him more vulnerable for Kurama to tempt him to borrow his power. Luffy would never go and demand Kurama to pay rent and lend him power. Luffy is more selfish than Naruto and other protags and he is stubborn as hell. He would never self sacrifice or make bets to save someone. He's not a hero, he's an avenger. His logic is to just beat the shit out of the guy that is threatening people he likes. That's why Luffy will never be Hokage. He doesn't care about the details that don't affect his fights. He's a hyper focused character fixated on achieving his dream and thats why his will is stronger than Naruto's. At least early Naruto. Of course, Naruto eventually gets a strong will too because he is able to endure and take every thing into himself to stop the cycle of hatred but when it comes to getting there, I would say Luffy has less emotional baggage so he'll get there first.
@@hikari62k yes it would bother him, he was literally nicknamed crybaby by ace and Sabo bc they ignored him and wouldn’t play with him. Naruto never lied in bed crying about his parents, he just asked hiruzen where they were. In fact, we see kid luffy cry WAYYYY more than kid naruto in their flashbacks. So much so that again, he was nicknamed after it. So for a op fan, you seem to get a lot of things incorrect about your fav series. Broke his will a bit?? Luffy damn near passed out from shock when ace died and when he lost his crew he couldn’t do nothing but cry and punch the ground. Naruto was never that broken emotionally. He snapped on tsunade, walked around konoha after learning that jiraiya died and then sat down and cried. And no he didnt get over aces loss “pretty quickly” he still was having nightmares post timeskip. When jiraiya died, naruto grieved but eventually got over it and matured more as a character compared to Luffy. So again, Luffy would still get taken over by kurama bc he’s just as empathetic towards his friends and family. He is selfish at times but he’s still shown to love those close to him so he’s just as emotional. So no, that doesn’t make his will stronger than narutos. Their wills are definitely interchangeable. The whole point of the series is naruto overcoming hatred. And that theme ends with him finally breaking the cycle of hatred. His will was strong enough to change his destiny. Stop talking biased nonsense.
@jaybronx98 he was named Crybaby because he lived in a harsher environment than Naruto Sabo and ace were actively chasing and running around with giant animals and also stealing from pirates and bandits
@@jaybronx98 first of all, Naruto is my favorite anime so don't go making assumptions. One Piece is my favorite manga. I like them both differently but on different mediums. Luffy and Naruto are also my characters in their own series. No bias here. You act like a Naruto stand but you never even watched the filler where he was a toddler playing with kiba, shikamaru, and other kids but felt lonely and cried in bed after he saw them all got picked up at the playground by their parents. Again, we are not talking about the nakamas and deaths, we are using scenario where Luffy is living in Naruto's shoes in childhood. Crying or not, Naruto was alone and depressed until he became part of Team 7. It all stems from him being an orphan and not being able to form bonds with anyone. Luffy does not know his parents and we never got a single panel of him taking an interest so how can you say he is impacted the same way? Don't lump Ace's death and the Sabaody incidient, its not 1 to 1. If you want to compare those, you compare those to Naruto's response to Jiraiya's death and his reaction when he returned to Konoha after learning sage mode. But again, I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about his childhood. stay focused. All I am saying is that Luffy would have a head start because the things that Naruto had to deal with when he was a child-before he became a ninja, are not things that bother Luffy at all. Again! He does not care that he doesn't have parents. Luffy would not be on that swing if he didn't pass. In fact, he would march off and say he will be a ninja even without graduating. That is why I say that I agree with Rob that he will be a rogue ninja. And another thing, just because Luffy's labeled a crybaby by Ace and Sabo doesn't mean that every time he cries, it is something that affects his will. Kid Luffy was tied up and beaten with spiked gloves and even though he cried, he never gave up Ace and Sabo's secret even though he is a bad liar. I don't know what you mean by Luffy having nightmares about ace every night? That was only mentioned in the 3D2Y movie. At least filler is anime canon but movies are its own canon. I wouldn't take events that happened in movies into account story-wise. And Ace died in front of Luffy BECAUSE OF LUFFY (in his mind). so that shock was not just about losing someone close, there's also self blame and guilt. Jiraiya did not die in front of Naruto. Luffy got himself together in a day because of Jinbei. Naruto had Iruka cheer him up then he stayed home for a week spaced out then Shikamaru had to drag him out to get through to him. After that, he was tempted to get revenge on Pain. But we haven't seen Luffy even talk about going after Akainu! The 2 years he took to train and that isn't even one of his goals! heck, we don't even know if Luffy will be the one to fight Akainu later on! We don't see Luffy praying to Ace or talking to him on the side somewhere. Naruto builds a shrine and visits Jiraiya right after the Pain fight ended . So how can you not say he did not get over it faster? Even when other people bring up Ace, like how zoro uses that to remind him that its okay not to go after vivi because he didn't go to save ace right away. We didn't even get a moment of Luffy arguing against it. All he did is make a meme face. Their wills maybe interchangeable mid-series towards the end but not in the beginning. Luffy is getting a head start. Maybe he'll plateau mid series and Naruto would catch up but definitely not at the same pace at the start of the series.
Enel a guy who is lightning(light speed) Can control millions of voltage Scans the entire skypeia with his observations haki Awaken logai Rob luci A flying leopard dude who can cut building and body is full steel Kid naruto is really strong it seem bro was struggling against random ninja bounty hunters while protecting a carpenter where kakashi sweeps in and save both
Naruto loses at enel (PTS) Luffy loses at gaara (PTS) Naruto wins thru all of OP (TS) Luffy loses at pain (TS) *MY OWN OPINION* BASED ON THEIR ABILITIES AT THAT CURRENT FIGHT
@@daryllfavortio6944 doesn't matter if he can make more as soon as luffy breaks one he's out side of the circle and the jutsu consumes alot of Chakra so he can't just remake it without draining his reserves to empty Some needles is not about to greatly affect luffy, the same person that willingly punched through spikes to hit his target
@@Thatfan864 not immune to magellan's poison though 💀have you seen the capabilities that this man's poison can do to a person? naruto is NOT surviving magellan, bro is not gonna even make magellan sweat
the dumbest debate i have ever seen they concluded that naruto can beat enel wtf bro seriously even most of the yonko commanders can't beat enel i doubt that even current zoro would have 50-50 chances against enel and luffy lost to crocodile just cause he had power of absorbing moisture
enel lightning will not pass Kurama's charka cloak Amaterasu a black flames that is as hot as the sun Ten Tail cataclysm is tank casually by kurama charka cloak Ap wise Small to medium Meteor lvl and Speed wise Kid kakashi while fatigue Cut lightning in half before touching the ground kurama Amp zero tails Kid naruto is Stronger and faster than Adult kakashi let alone if will add Charka cloaks and 1-8 tails now if we add some Boruto BS time Travel kid naruto's AP and speed is on otsutsuki level
@@daryllfavortio6944 still luffy claps naruto's ass no diff Naruto's rasengan and rasenshuriken will not work on him He can use observation haki so clones will be no problem too He is probably way faster than naruto and he can see the future hiting him will be almost impossible for naruto So bro luffy can easily handle naruto
@@vaibhavpratapsingh8662 "fry naruto and kurama" Pagaya a side character laughing in the corner the moment kurama amp naruto he's faster than enel "He can use observation haki" naruto is slugging sasuke that have future sight that have x-ray a Clone is a problem to enel bro really think a Sub-sonic luffy with an obvious and have windup metal ball attack is Stronger than a 1 tail kid Naruto Faster than lightning and have small-medium meteor AP with Vermillion Rasengan
the last thing naruto would be in the one piece verse is a revolutionary, the main concept and message on naruto is a right wing ideology, the show constantly says to us that the right thing to do is to become hokage, and if naruto achieves that he will become someone respectable by the others, they constantly treat the other villages as possible terrorist, the whole show presents a right wing concept, if naruto goes to the one piece verse he definitely would be a marine
There's no way luffy would be a village major, naruto basically thought if he became a hokage that's the only way he can get self respect it was never naruto's real dream and Luffy' s not the same
wth are you yapping about, it was literally all naruto was going on about growing up just that his goal started to evolve and him carrying jiraya's goals to which he somewhat achieved but never the less, naruto main goal was to still becoming hokage even when he gained all the respect after the 4gnw
@@sircondones1032 and why would a kid want to be hokage to look cool? Naruto wasn't in any conditions to look cool all he ever wanted was a normal life if minato and kiuna had survived there would be a much lower chance of naruto being the hokage like boruto, the author stated so many times that boruto is just like naruto.
Yeah Naruto had a flawed perspective on becoming hokage, even after Kakashi telling him time and time again, it took Itachi to talk sense into him when he was trying to take on the war "by himself". Naruto is more grounded and Luffy is more wild.
@@shonenshowdownyou might want to do another one of these videos of course the Naruto Tards going to be biased up fucking course you did good man can't believe you lost damn
Naruto can heal fatal injuries almost instantly, and on top of that how could enel possibly harm 4 tails naruto? I also think a tailed beast bomb from 4 tails naruto would be a serious problem for enel. Lastly we have speed, kid sasuke in base was dodging supersonic attacks easily, curse mark is a 10 times multiplier and sasuke later became as strong as he was in curse mark in base, so pre timeskip sasuke with curse mark and sharingan has a combat speed of over 150000 mph, naruto is relative to that with 1 tail, 4 tails naruto (which would unlock the angrier naruto gets) would have a combat speed of at LEAST 600, 000 mph which is faster than the speed of lightning
The time skips are very similar. I 100% believe luffy would have gear four when he returns and could dish out again kakazu, and potentially unlocks snakeman during the fight with pain. He would awaken sun god in the fight with madara or kaguya
That's a good point. However, they are fighting in an enclosed area. There really isn't much space for Katakturi to dodge a Rasenshuriken. @@kingme1313
@@kingme1313 he can use his shadow clones and make them all use precognition to predict katakuri's movement if that's hard he has danger sense anything that's dangerous to him he can react with senjutsu.
@@sinoxolombovane5455 The thing is they didn't say that naruto had haki, or luffy had chakra. But the statement about his danger sense and senjutsu is true enough. The whole thing is more along the lines with katakuri being able to see ahead, and his attacks managing to come from anywhere lol
I dont think yall in the comments who think enel would kill naruto know that kurama wouldnt let naruto die even if they werent friends. I dont think kurama wants to wait another 10 or so years to come back to life.
I dont think either one makes it to the end of the others series but Luffy definitely makes it further cause what answer does Naruto have for Enel? Luffy beat him because he's rubber. How does Naruto counter? Luffy, on the other hand, makes it to the time skip and probably gets stopped at Pain, and if not Pain, he definitely gets washed by Madara
Naruto no speed?????? You realize that Sasuke was able to mimic the speed of rock Lee when he came back from his training. And Naruto was able to keep up with the same Sasuke that surpassed no weights, Lee.
No weights lee has no tangible speed scaling, yeah he's fast but how fast? All u can say about lee is that he's fast without weights and that's it. Luffy in skypeia pre gear2 was already faster than a lightning speed man could keep up with And gear 2 increases his speed by 5-10 times
you guys never do One Piece debates justice lol ya need to have BDA on or King of lightning lol Naruto world def much harder to get through pre time skip one piece but post time skip your talking about YONKO level battles. Luffy can easily detect Pain with voice of all things or observation That point alone should have made One Piece the winner. Also luffy may be week to piercing attacks but how many times do we see him purposefully punch through spikes and bite on blades to show how durable he is... ya be buggin man lol
Ways Luffy loses to Itachi amaterasu Genjutusu : would’ve been fighting Itachi for 20 days straight in an illusion Luffy isn’t smart enough to figure out Itachi 😭
@@flemz9000 luffy doesn't have a chakra network, so theres nothing to control with that Chakra The only reason genjutsu works the way it does in Naruto is because the cerebral nervous system in naruto is based on a characters Chakra network, when someone messes with the person's Chakra network in their brain they change the Chakra flow or inject their own to alter what a person sees, hears, or feels with their 5 senses. Luffy doesn't have a chakra network, it won't work
@@MicaW4VE tell that to the bees and animals without charka that where put under genjutsu, same with sage creature and tailed beast who literally have no charka network and are just balls of charka. Luffy will still be put under.
"Sasuke's Chidori" Enel: *Eating chips* "Kankuro's Bone's" The plot point of Rock Lee and Gaara bailing Naruto out: *Takes some chips from Enel's bag* Zoro and Sanji: *_Grins Maliciously_* 25:10 High chance Luffy would be the main reason why the villages would bring peace treaties like hot cakes.
@@mubarakjimba9210 ive seen multiple videos of that guy, he gets butt hurt everytime about everything. Just like now, you got butthurt about another Naruto fan being called out lol. Your salty about a simple observation of what took place, one group got upset, the other didnt.
@@pkluffy9332 like i said there are different typrs of people not everyone is the same so to say every naruto fan is like him is stupid and i got mad bc ive seen onepiece fan boys who cant accept a loss
I disagree luffy in pre Timeskip solo every one in Naruto part 1 and if he died in Naruto shippuden he get gear 5 and also with all Haki and his hax he slowly Naruto shippuden in I say kid Naruto lost to Crocodile cause he a logia type if he don’t lose to crocodile he lose to enel
**Ameterasu luffy could just take it off just by discarding unused ryou with the flames just like what Naruto did against sasuke in the final fight...(reason ryou just means flow) ** Pretimeskip luffy suffers with beacause of sharp attacks This is a rubber lad that punched don Krieg thorn shield blood is not new for him (arlong/rob lucci/croc/enel.. luffy ate many slashing attacks) **Pain fight what "will" does a dead body has against luffy an conqueror. also since everyone is handing multiple pains at once. *Luffy doesn't hake chakra to get sucked *Luffy literally ate large beast when hes 8 and his muscular power is no joke *Arm hardening can evade mecha dude attacks and trash him *Luffy can't even get periced with pain rods or slashed due to arm haki. * The only problem was soul extraction to which haki in onepiece verse can even counter devil fruit effects.. ... There was lots of things that wrong in content about luffy. But, im cool with that One piece is Fun story with adventure not a total action oriented ninja show which everyone connects The joyfull part of one piece will not make u remember all scaled fight in one piece The endurance of luffy his sharp instict of fight and dodging I respect all the naruto fans and the content said about naruto.. But rob id seriously say that if u can't disrespect Naruto just to make luffy great that good of u, but show side only to ppl how have sense to understand
And to those nuts who only thinks of disrespecting the show and mc without any sense of brains just hungry for some views.. On op side I've not seen anyone brag down on Naruto that also should be case for Naruto side debaters.. I know it's a social content u all need views/likes/subs/content to say. but PPL could atleast be respectful abt the shows others adore. I'm sorry to all real and respectful naruto fans reading this. If PPL can say luffy died if dragon didn't appear if lighting didn't strike in lounge town..calling plot armor Well I'd say Naruto would be dead long back with haku if not for kuruma.. well this ninja boy trapped all the plot armor in his belly and always used it stay alive and win Naruto knows how to swim and walk on water..what use would it be when it's 10000 ft under sea when bubble pops Naruto is not a fish to breathe or a rubber man to handle such pressure. And to think clones are good trick in post timeskip everyone has haki is just a walking joke. Against a conqer clones are just dust I could also say hax of op world can make Naruto sweat **I could say kuma could take kuruma out of Naruto body Naruto'd be dead **Naruto vs kaido without haki I'd how he'd win..how he'd fight all logias at marineford where he doesn't even have any sealing knowledge Rob if u want to make a debate Collab with PPL who have respect on both shows and respect. Even I could scream Naruto is linear dumb story with a overpowered power sealed inside a boy who is destined how to control it, to save the world one day fighting insecurities and lonely issues running behind rouge kid just because his little school crushed begged who literally hate him cus he never raised by parents. but it would only make look stupid as Ceaser clown to completely disregard the values and morals the story told which most of are found off
Rob u lost a subscriber today,I think it won't make a difference.. but eventually ull see changes in the wrong run.. Just because u slander the integrity between fandom by calling PPL like Gabe who most of us fans doesn't give a sh** on his opinion. Collaboration repeatedly just cus ur getting more likes / views / subs. I subbed this channel watching ur videos of anime mc in room cus ur imitation was great.. but that changed a lot lately was mainly fan war based Collab wit PPL who doesn't even have no knowledge about story as rich as onepiece
ok where are they getting the piercing attacks from? last time i checked if lethal finger guns from lucci wasnt doing it, a chidori , something luffy's naturally immune to is for sure not doing it. Cutting attacks i get, but the whole point of the Hito Hito no mi model :Nika is that piercing/ blunt force attacks dont really do anything to luffy.
@@opaljames5291 from the east blue using normal bullets, to water 7 where cp9 used finger pistol all the way to whole cake island where crakers sword stab couldn't do it. Piercing attacks just don't do it. Mole was an interesting case that was a 3 pronged sharp object used as a drill.
@@autobot1stlieutenantjazz980 bro the bullets in one piece are round they aren't like our bullets or snipers those will hurt him, and also chidori literally is a piercing attack that's the point finger pistol is just the size of a finger chidori is literally your whole hand and we have seen what it can do to the human body. Obito giant hole where his heart was, naruto destroyed lung.
@@faith4657 yes but the lighting is whats actually doing the piercing not the hand itself otherwise standered punches would do the same or everytime the hyuuga hit someone there would be a gaping hole where they hit
@@Thatfan864 There's always the factor of Kurama taking over, even way back in Episode 1 if Naruto was really in fatal danger. And I do think that 4 tails would at least survive an encounter with Enel. So I do think Naruto clears One Piece, Luffy on the other hand is not surviving Orochimaru that early on or even Sasuke at some points. But post timeskip, I think both have arguments for getting far, but Naruto clears up to where we currently are in the manga and Luffy probably stops at Juubidara or Kaguya depending on how you scale them.
Please try to find someone with more knowledgeable with both series, because I feel this take is not good, and I can argue both sides of the story. Yes, I agree that Naruto has more stronger because of the gods itself, but in reality, take away the god itself, and they’re both in equal terms of strong World itself so that’s why I don’t agree with the takes that most people does.
Ok so as a true neutral person my favorite anime is bleach if you doubt I’m neutral but Luffy if he went rouge at the skill he left the island with his stretchy power orochimaru would go after him and probably kill him. Naruto can handle marine ford because 4 thousand Naruto is strong, against pain luffy struggles purely because allmighty push, Naruto struggles Aganst Kaido unless we give that sage of six paths and not normal kcm
Naruto having kurama would not factor into his bounty at all tbh, yall bring up how the mystery of it would increase his bounty i call bs on that thou becuz they would just think its a devil fruit, yall gotta rememeber if you just drag and drop kurama into one piece he is gonna look like a puppy.
Basically Naruto is not an idiot he has battle iq and we know luffy has it to but after some defeats he thinks but with naruto he thinks how to maximize he techniques to fight efficiently so guys what do you think
11:06 if he at all even got here his arms woulda been gone cause he doesn’t have obs to forese mihawk cutting off his arms 19:40 the way bro just deadass 1000 yard stared into the camera like he was so done with Gabe genuinely made me laugh
I just wanna say for the garra vs Luffy the biggest difference is Fluffy didn't know Crocs df but naruto literally watched two of garra’s fights and garra was still injured from sasuke I'm pretty sure
@@kamadothorfinn8166 That’s true but that doesn’t mean much sense the automatic sand shield turns off and to beat him all you have to do is hit the unconscious garra really hard like Naruto did
I was really really scared when I saw the intro you decided to change ur content to basically be the exact same as like legit 90% of anime UA-cam and I was so upset. But i clicked on the other recent videos and found you’re still you. Nothing wrong with upping the quality and editing level, just don’t want you to get lost in it and end up being another Swagkage (and others just like him that I’m sure came before him he’s just a good example I can think off top)
Luffy in the the Naruto world and having a purpose isn't a far argument to have cause Naruto's whole world isn't as fleshed out as One piece's world is, so it's not easy to give him a purpose or a goal. Throw that question in the trash
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Luffy lost most of these because the naruto world isn’t diverse and doesn’t have a lot of options for him. Kinda stupid Edit:On top of this it’s dumb to assume he wouldn’t build a team as a rogue ninja like he would as a pirate
Luffy punched a seaking as large as manda the day he set out and knocked it out cold. He is stronger than orochimaru and jiraiya in terms of raw strength. Sorry but pretime skip enel is dogging on naruto. Naruto can't touch enel, enel moves at lightning speed, and literally washed zoro, sanji and all of the enemies he faced, if we are saying aokiji is dogging vs naruto then enel is dogging on naruto since he doesn't need to hold back.
sharingan is NOT better than observation haki, sharingan can see a few seconds into the future in a FIGHT SPECIFICALLY based on an opponent's movements and by reading their chakra, observation haki can see whether or not u will sneeze 5 seconds into the future, it also isnt based on any movements, even blind people can use observation haki to see the future
I dont get the guy on the naruto team in the middle dude i saw his content and plus many times he didnt even finished one piece he dropped why we couldnt get someone who actually finished it and study it
@@mubarakjimba9210 i mean its a good idea to have a dude that at least is up to date.. i mean how can you argue the full strength of a character without knowing their full strength
I don't think luffy is surviving first 10 episodes of naruto because the first villain is water type in land of waves who uses slicing attacks and hidden mist
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The Gabe and Preston beef was real I would love to see a 1 on 1 debate between them sometime
I think Luffy got sandbagged a lot in this conversation even in the discussion of him ranking up because the written test was never about actually getting a high score like Naruto literally didn’t write anything on it and he passed, also we seen from saskue and Lee if you are fast enough you can bypass garra’s sand which I think Luffy would easily and even if you bring up the one tails if we are doing a full swap Luffy doesn’t have to beat the one tail he just has to hit a unconscious garra really hard to “wake him up” lastly pain vs luffy you could argue luffy could just sense him as even Rayleigh was able to sense every animal that was stronger than luffy on the island he trained on and if that is to far of a stretch luffy could use the same method Naruto used with the chakra rods since they are connected to nagato but even without that yes it’s 6 v 1 but luffy is faster, can see into the future, and is arguably physically stronger than sage mode Naruto and the only pain that showed any durability was the deva path the others were literally one shot basically plus the summons are animals you can argue luffy knocks them unconscious with conquers that only valid hard fight is Madara, obito, Kaguya, and finally fight saskue
you should do one with goku and saitama
Gabe a bozo lmao bro can’t debate for shit
That gabe dude a bozo lol he can’t debate for shit
Bro basically said:
“We’ve seen Luffy handle Enel’s lightning, so Naruto can too”
That is not how that works
Onggg these naruto fans trippingggg
@him-wg5pu pre time skip Naruto is light speed?
@him-wg5pu bro is capping so hard 😭
@him-wg5pu do some research and you'll find out he wasn't lightspeed lmao
@him-wg5pu naruto reaches light speed in shippuden Deffo not light speed pre shippuden
I think you guys missed the point in luffy vs crocodile, the reason luffy lost to crocodile wasn't because of any sand attacks. Crocodile has the ability to drain moisture out of anything he touches and he defeated Luffy using his moisture absorption ability in both fights, not sand
Tbf any situation where Naruto has the potential to die Kurama comes out. So it’s really can any pre time skip OP character beat Kurama and not necessarily Naruto himself.
Sand drains moisture regardless, it has nothing to do with an ability
@@phantxmblxzestop it there’s definitely a difference bro
@kevincervantes427 how is it different. All he did he purposefully force his sand to absorb all the moisture out of luffy. That's what happens when your submerged in sand with no matter in sight. Ofc in real life it takes longer but it's definitely nothing like a power it's just something he can do with sand
@@phantxmblxze the sand in Naruto has never been shown to suck moisture from someone like in one piece. Also what’s the point of mentioning real life sand when these are both fantasy shows. One of Crocodiles abilities is to be able to suck moisture out of people.
Tbh if luffy was in naruto's place, he wouldn't want to be hokage (someone who is stuck at the office), he also wouldn't care about the villagers.
I think his goal would be to create his own Akatsuki styled group. where naruto would probably train to be a great marine.
@@DeathandBeeZyeah, knowing that there are many untapped mystery and world building in naruto, i feel like luffy will roam Naruto world hxh style.
@@DeathandBeeZlike how can sasuke got that big birb? He must be found the nest and tamed one. Or imagine if pain summon is actually real monster species. I can't believe there is a pack of cerberus monster that strong af
He would prob be like the akatsuki from that one filler movie but would die as early in the story as pain tho
i agree with the wouldnt want to be hokage, but he would care about the villagers, just as he cared for the random cannon fuater of some army, random people of wano like luffy deffinitly cared about that
bruh naruto pre time skip did not have kurama in his ear helping him buff up. they were no where near close to that level of bond yet
One of his first tricks was making a thousand shadow clone
I LOVE how they bring up Naruto and his 1000 shadow clones in Marineford and how they wouldn't know the real one as if they don't got observation haki. When Luffy fought Mr. 3 and Mr. 3 made clones Luffy's subconsciously used haki to hit the real one and this is BEFORE they knew about haki, so she slipped up there
how would observation haki tell which one is real? even the sharigan and byukgan cant and even has senjutsu cant aswell
you can sence their location or presence@@frosty37
Shadow clones are unrecognizable from the user. The Byakugan and Sharingan couldn’t tell naruto apart from his clones.
@@frosty37 The reason they couldn't see is because the Chakra is distributed equally but observation haki can sense where the real person is without having to sense haki or chakra, yet again like with Mr. 3 and his wax clones, and removing the ones from the conversation he can sense danger even without future site and not looking like when he fought Katakuri. Think of it like Spiderman senses, he wa able to see through people's tricks like when they showcased in when he fought mysterio at the end of far from home or Naruto bring able to sense malicious intent because of Kurama
@@SimplyHawa The reason they couldn't see is because the Chakra is distributed equally but observation haki can sense where the real person is without having to sense haki or chakra, yet again like with Mr. 3 and his wax clones, and removing the ones from the conversation he can sense danger even without future site and not looking like when he fought Katakuri. Think of it like Spiderman senses, he wa able to see through people's tricks like when they showcased in when he fought mysterio at the end of far from home or Naruto bring able to sense malicious intent because of Kurama
Aint no way they just skipped over Enel like he aint doggin pre naruto ☠️
People will powerscale pre Naruto as light speed, I’m not even joking lmao
And they're comparing Enel's lightning to sasuke's pre timeskip chidori. Like Enel is literally summoning lightning from the heavens. Pre timeskip naruto ain't on that level.
@@TheLostSheep578i mean tbf child saskue outran and cut a lightnight bolt in half, idk where naruto would’ve been relative to that but yeah i mean definitely a lot of feats
@@filthyshibait’s pretty easy to get him to light speed pre shippuden
Honestly enel should of been a later boss and if luffy literally wasn’t his natural enemy he would of packed him up
Bro Enel is so underestimated, Luffy only won bc he literally had a counter and Enel didn’t expect it. Comparing Sasuke and Enel with Lightning abilities is crazy ngl good Video tho
Ya I think Naruto could only win if he was to get 3 tails from the nine tails pre timeskip which he wasn’t able to do. Also people don’t realize how strong luffy’s opponents like crocodile and Enel actually were. He only beat enel because of a direct counter.
@@ujimaster1855Doesn’t matter if he gets 3 or 4 tails Naruto is still losing
its like comparing licking a 6v battery vs grabbing the main power cable
@@makkkk_2229 3 and 4 tails is actually strong.. Atleast 4 is heavy strong
honestly using wank statements we can use against haku naruto is technically faster
first of yall naruto aint making it past enel, yall just speed past enel like he is fodder or smt
Whats stopping him against Enel?
What's making Luffy past part 1 Gaara?
hows he hitting enel? he just gets 1 tapped by enel if anything
@@kamadothorfinn8166
gaaras a stat check lil bro
@@Archetype-Neptune
@@kamadothorfinn8166he can't touch Enel
Enel can read all of his moves with mantra
Cook his ass with 100 million volts
I think this was a pretty fair evaluation. However, I think it would be flipped for me. I feel like pre-time skip Luffy would have an easier time than Naruto and post time skip Naruto would have an easier time than Luffy. They mentioned how Luffy isn’t as technical as Naruto and that would be a problem in the fights. However, for me if we’re talking about pre-time skip that wouldn’t really matter. Pre time skip Luffy is way stronger and faster than pre time skip Naruto and the only fight I see becoming an issue for him is Garra’s full transformation after the churning exams. However I don’t think Luffy would even let it get that far. Additionally, I feel like Luffy’s goal of being a free ninja tracks with his character more than Naruto wanting to be in the revolutionary army. My reasoning being is if you look back on what drove Naruto to want to become Hokage in the first place it’s not because he admires them or seeks to be a righteous person. The opening of the show is literally him writing on the Hokage faces and disrespecting them! The real reason is because he wants to be seen and heard that’s his whole motivation throughout the show and I know he later revises that once he starts getting it after the Pain fight. However, I just don’t see him seeking that out in the one piece verse in the same sense of how Luffy has always wanted to be free since he was a kid. I feel like if anything Naruto would be either a normal person or join the marines like Coby. Since it seemed like they were just assuming Naruto would know the marines are bad and additionally he would even be able to find the army in the first place to join them.
i aint reading allat but thats defo true luffy would smoke all of naruto pre and probaly faulter and lose around post but naruto would struggle a bit in pre and then struggle a bit but still kind of smoke post
To be honest, I feel like I agreed in some takes, but keep in mind that Naruto trap himself to not be free anymore when he became Hokage when he become Hokage is his responsibility to deal with everybody’s problem, and what’s going on and it made him not free anymore. On the other hand, Luffy is more freedom. Whatever he is when he becomes the king of the Pirates, he can do whatever he wants. No one is gonna oppose what he does, and he can just be adventure with his friends, all fond of the freedom that everybody wanted. In nature world there is peace, but it’s not freedom. They’re not free. There’s still limitation there’s that’s why it’s hard
@@karktzy2822 I agree with you on the fact that luffy wouldn't get through post naruto and that naruto would strugle more in pre but in my opinion, the same way naruto would loose to enel and would strugle against crocodile, I think luffy would have a hard time gatting through gaara and kimimaru. And lets not kidd our selves, naruto would smoke post OP (besides logia) based on the fact that he has a molecular attack and can make thousands of shadow clones with deacent strength, speed, and tijutsu
@@danielhateley2412 but isn’t it also said that the molecular attack targets the fine chakra threads and not really the cells themselves. If that’s the case it wouldn’t really affect people in the One Piece verse since they don’t have chakra.
I think we all know if Naruto was in the One Piece world, he’d be in the Marines
Probably to start with but I don't see him being ok with the corruption, the ruthlessness of Akainu and the nonsense of the Celestial Dragons. He would almost certainly turn on them eventually.
@@abdihakimjama1556 why not just change the system. Konoha wasn't perfect ask the uchihas
@@abdihakimjama1556I mean the leaf village was pretty corrupt. The war in the rain, Danzo, Uchiha massacre, sakumo killing himself, minato making his own son a weapon to help the village, Itachi trying to brainwash Sasuke to help the village, etc..
Yeah at the end of the day Naruto is a fed and always was one
Fair enough. Though, I don't believe Naruto ever figured that out and it looks like it has been cleaned up in Boruto (probably by Kakashi). @@carljohnson7168
I think the whole weak to piercing/slashing attacks is blown outta proportion. It’s not like Pokémon types, luffy is weak to slashes like how normal human beings are, it’s not like someone pulls out a sword and luffy is just immediately cooked
by that logic while Luffy is "weak" to slash and pierce, Naruto is weak to slash, pierce AND blunt.
Yeah instead of having a weakness, it’s more like Luffy is just strong against blunt attacks. Also lightning users ain’t doing nothing to my boy, ain’t no way Luffy doesn’t solo sasuke, bros whole arsenal is lightning. Naruto solos Luffy tho
The concept of slashing attacks vs blunt attacks went out the window when haki was introduced. He can haki up and defend against attacks and blunt attacks still hurt him if haki is involved
What is this 😭... Pre Naruto's life ends when he encounters enel cause I'm pretty sure Naruto isn't surviving 6 million volts to the dome
Yea I thought so too Luffy only won bc he literally had a counter. Naruto getting smacked
I think they just wanted the video to continue fr😂
@@Fiyinfoluwa89they did
Gamabunta is and Naruto has access to Kyushu cloak which acts like a shield he got pierced with chidori and literally regenerated in a flash and enel is getting put down in one hit unlike Naruto who enel needs to hit several times
@@Thatfan864 and how is naruto hitting enel? enel has future sight, this fight just isn't winnable in the slightest for naruto - luffy only won bc he is made of rubber
I dont like how no one mentioned the fact that luffy is literally rubber thats an OP base ability he can just phase most attacks
yup i literally just commented this too lol chidori wouldnt even affect him since he is made of rubber but they forgot smh
@@uhb_menacewell they say that because Chidori is a piercing attack it would work on Luffy.
But of course they seem to not understand that it's still a blunt force jab coated in electricity. If we use CM2 Sasuke then he has claws so there's an argument there, but Luffy has survived a similar level of being punctured and the electrical properties of Chidori will do absolutely nothing to Luffy.
@@numberhunter62 the thing is every electric attack is a piercing attack
@@Unbiasedusopp5 Lariat doesn't pierce, Lightning armour doesn't pierce, Kirin doesn't pierce.
Chidori and Raikiri are the only ones shown to pierce.
@@numberhunter62but the chidori is also nothing compared to what Luffy was just tanking pre timeskip
I cant believe they think pre time skip naruto can get passed aokiji, and enel. Thats just crazy
Enel he can
They didn’t say he would get pass aodkiji they just said that he wasn’t even fighting
He Solos the verse in base form
aokiji didn't really fight bro
cuz naruto didn't make it that far @faith4657
Luffy is immune to electricity and physical attacks
immune to electrical and blunt physical attacks
@@Orizlnlmao and everyone uses kunai
@@Orizln luffy was the one who stated he's immune to physical attacks and garp attacks luffy's spirit that's why he can damage luffy
blunt attacks not physical, he'd be able to bounce off a lot of punches that don't have special properties (so I could see gentle fist hurting him) while a sword slash still cuts him
@@mustardwithglasses6508 ever watched luffy's fight with don krege
If Luffy while using Gear 5th can grab lightning making it into rubber then I think that the Amaterasu flames Luffy can also do the same
No I don't think so bro the amaterasu would burn him you are forgetting he is a rubber man he is kinda immune to lightning him touching it isn't really a big deal like you make it out to be.
Gear 5th luffy would pull some stones from the ground like he did to kaido’s fire blast he would be running around Saskue trolling him
@@vuild6635 he would run around tailed beasts enhanced rennegan sasuke who can swap himself between spaces no I don't think so even if he turned the susano'o into rubber for few seconds that would not affect sasuke at all.
@@sinoxolombovane5455 I don’t think you are understanding what I mean fire just like lightning is an energy which Luffy can alter it into rubber then manipulate it plus Luffy has survived several times form being burn by fire from Kaido’s Blast Breath which could melt a mountain while Amaterasu is a slow burning fire that will die out after 3 days
@@HeraclesN-fp1bw show me luffy touching a fire then we can talk because even with kaido's hell breath luffy didn't turn it into rubber he deflected it back to kaido by turning the ground into rubber if he could turn flames into rubber he would have turned it into rubber stop the head canon.
One thing, Naruto can swim. Game Changer lol
How many Naruto battles are in water🤦♀️ Luffy can also fly and warp reality....
I was kidding guys..
@@jpraise6771 what reality did he warp😂
@@jpraise6771the point is that their worlds are switched so Naruto would be a pirate and that would defo help
Luffy can fly and warp reality, bro is tripping, first of all floating aint the same as flying, and Luffy didnt warp no reality. Get ur facts straight. also naruto can fly and swim@@jpraise6771
This whole Chidori would work on Luffy is very false. As we know electricity doesnt work on Luffy, but for the piercing part of the attack, it also wouldn't work because hands are a blunt force and if you disagree I would like to say that Lucci used Finger Pistol (piercing attack)in his base form on Luffy and it had no effect on because the hand like finger was dull. It was only until Lucci grew sharp claws, that the Finger Pistol worked.
Literally, I ain’t seeing nobody in Naruto pre time skip tank a musket point blank. Luffy will tho, cause his devil fruit.
doesn't chidori use a kunai tho?
@@DeathandBeeZ no
@@Totallysteveharvey pretty sure you can infuse a kunai with chidori its one of the basics of lightnings style
Chidori is a Piercing attack. 😑 It will definitely kill Luffy.
This wasn’t much of a debate, really neither side got to argue and have their arguments heard,
Additionally when comparing fights what made each fight wasn’t talked about at all, from the character motvlicatiins to even the challenges of the fights. Genuinely this doesn’t sway people one way or another it’s just a fun conversation with friends
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Of course arguments start as soon as Gabe opens his mouth at 2:02
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Nah Gabe is a troll though 😂
Gabe is the biggest hater I know
Might as well turn off the video if you see Gabe his Naruto d riding and one piece hate is like none other
He's so annoying bro
Are we forgetting Naruto doesn’t have Haki? Yea he may find out the water weakness with Crocodile, But ENEL??? That man isn’t made of rubber so he wouldn’t be able to touch him
i mean he has rasenshuriken
@@eldonatellothat’s dodgeball
@@999moe he has multi shadow clone jutsu he can strategize on how to land the rasenshuriken just he did to opponents like pain and kakuzu.
@@sinoxolombovane5455Enel lighting can destroy all of the shadow clones like you don’t know how strong enel is, the only reason he even lost is due to luffy rubber being completely immune to his lighting attacks. If he became a pirate he would easily be more then 500 million berries and ain’t no way Naruto is ever beating him without any haki
@@vuild6635 I know enel would destroy the clones for the most part but Naruto is a spammer so I feel like he would use them to find an opening it's in his character but I do agree Naruto from part 1 would get stomped but 4 tails Shippuden Naruto I don't think so.
that guy with the Beanie goofy as hell, sayin Luffy can't hang in Naruto without Chakra, like half the Ninjas their ain't dying to bullets in One Piece or getting one shot by Fishmen, stronger than Kisame's goofy self
Yup pretty much
He annoys my soul. He pretty much admitted to being a one piece hater
Then there's The giant animal beasts and sea kings
Enels lightning is on a whole other level than Sasuke, horrible take, horrible takes all around
Pre time skip naruto solos wano😂😂😂😂 Jk
@@c.comics5999what was the point of saying that honestly
@@Darur1308 it think what you meant to say was "how can a man be so wrong." pre time skip?!!?? does he even know what happens in wano. pre time skip naruto isn't making it to wano.
@@tigotime3922 when did I say that also what are you talking about??????
@@Darur1308 i was talking about @c.comics5999. i was saying that instead of you commenting "what was even the point in saying that honestly" you should have instead said "how can a man be so wrong."
They forgot that if Naruto is close to death then Kurama will try and protect him to make sure he doesn’t die because he doesn’t want to die himself
Can’t Zabuza literally just put this man in the water prison and he drowns. The only way Naruto got out is by spamming shadow clones.
yo thats a good point
If they using pre ts luffy with gear 2, zabuza realistically shouldn’t be able to catch up to luffy in terms of speed or ap or durability
Luffy 2nd gear is too fast for Zabuza and his water prison
@@999moe and the reason is?
i thought it was going in order so beginning of naruto luffy at his strength in romance dawn would be put in and as the arcs progress luffy progresses to. even rob said when luffy fights pain he would surely have gear 4th. implying that luffy is still developing and not starting in egghead form.
How did you correlate the arcs? Are we going by when they grow in power or just arc by arc? Arc by arc doesn't make sense because One Piece has more arcs than Naruto in pre-ts alone (I think). Going by the former that means we skip all of Romance Dawn basically and after that Luffy would actually start to grow in strength, but which feats on each island do we use? Because even then there are still more pre-ts arcs in One Piece then in Naruto how would it even work?
I thought this would be more like Luffy having to live Naruto's life and vice versa. If that were the case, I think both characters will do well. Naruto living Luffy's life would be trained by Garp and he would want to become a good marine just like Garp. Luffy's will would be so strong that Kurama would never take over and he would be so charismatic that he'll win people over. He'll have a much easier time getting Kurama to work with him and controlling the 9 tailed chakra mode. I agree that he will become a rogue ninja and leave the village for adventure.
Narutos will is just as strong if not arguably stronger than Luffys so saying Luffy wouldn’t let kurama take over is a little disingenuous. Both have faltered their wills at some point in their stories. Naruto when Pain almost made him rip off the seal or when Obito mocked his ideology at him when Neji died. Luffy when he thought he lost his crew to kuma or when Ace died. Both instances would’ve made Luffy lose control over kurama. Saying he’d be able to work with kurama easier is also debatable. Similarly to how you can say Naruto has better battle iq so he’d likely come up with better and arguably more creative tactics to use his df.
@jaybronx98 If Luffy were to live Naruto's life where he was an orphan and ostrisized, it wouldn't bother Luffy as much. Yes losing Ace and his crew broke Luffy's will a bit but remember I used the scenario where he's living Naruto's life which referred to his childhood without parents and being ostricized by the village. In One Piece, Luffy didn't know his parents either but you never see him lie in bed and cried about it. That's what I meant. That's just Luffy's personality, even after losing Ace and being separated from his crew, he got over it pretty quick compared to Naruto. I kinda wanted to see him canonically dwell on it a bit more like Naruto lost Jiraiya. Naruto is more emotional and that makes him more vulnerable for Kurama to tempt him to borrow his power. Luffy would never go and demand Kurama to pay rent and lend him power. Luffy is more selfish than Naruto and other protags and he is stubborn as hell. He would never self sacrifice or make bets to save someone. He's not a hero, he's an avenger. His logic is to just beat the shit out of the guy that is threatening people he likes. That's why Luffy will never be Hokage. He doesn't care about the details that don't affect his fights. He's a hyper focused character fixated on achieving his dream and thats why his will is stronger than Naruto's. At least early Naruto. Of course, Naruto eventually gets a strong will too because he is able to endure and take every thing into himself to stop the cycle of hatred but when it comes to getting there, I would say Luffy has less emotional baggage so he'll get there first.
@@hikari62k yes it would bother him, he was literally nicknamed crybaby by ace and Sabo bc they ignored him and wouldn’t play with him. Naruto never lied in bed crying about his parents, he just asked hiruzen where they were. In fact, we see kid luffy cry WAYYYY more than kid naruto in their flashbacks. So much so that again, he was nicknamed after it. So for a op fan, you seem to get a lot of things incorrect about your fav series.
Broke his will a bit?? Luffy damn near passed out from shock when ace died and when he lost his crew he couldn’t do nothing but cry and punch the ground. Naruto was never that broken emotionally. He snapped on tsunade, walked around konoha after learning that jiraiya died and then sat down and cried. And no he didnt get over aces loss “pretty quickly” he still was having nightmares post timeskip. When jiraiya died, naruto grieved but eventually got over it and matured more as a character compared to Luffy.
So again, Luffy would still get taken over by kurama bc he’s just as empathetic towards his friends and family. He is selfish at times but he’s still shown to love those close to him so he’s just as emotional. So no, that doesn’t make his will stronger than narutos. Their wills are definitely interchangeable. The whole point of the series is naruto overcoming hatred. And that theme ends with him finally breaking the cycle of hatred. His will was strong enough to change his destiny. Stop talking biased nonsense.
@jaybronx98 he was named Crybaby because he lived in a harsher environment than Naruto
Sabo and ace were actively chasing and running around with giant animals and also stealing from pirates and bandits
@@jaybronx98 first of all, Naruto is my favorite anime so don't go making assumptions. One Piece is my favorite manga. I like them both differently but on different mediums. Luffy and Naruto are also my characters in their own series. No bias here.
You act like a Naruto stand but you never even watched the filler where he was a toddler playing with kiba, shikamaru, and other kids but felt lonely and cried in bed after he saw them all got picked up at the playground by their parents.
Again, we are not talking about the nakamas and deaths, we are using scenario where Luffy is living in Naruto's shoes in childhood. Crying or not, Naruto was alone and depressed until he became part of Team 7. It all stems from him being an orphan and not being able to form bonds with anyone. Luffy does not know his parents and we never got a single panel of him taking an interest so how can you say he is impacted the same way? Don't lump Ace's death and the Sabaody incidient, its not 1 to 1. If you want to compare those, you compare those to Naruto's response to Jiraiya's death and his reaction when he returned to Konoha after learning sage mode. But again, I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about his childhood. stay focused. All I am saying is that Luffy would have a head start because the things that Naruto had to deal with when he was a child-before he became a ninja, are not things that bother Luffy at all. Again! He does not care that he doesn't have parents. Luffy would not be on that swing if he didn't pass. In fact, he would march off and say he will be a ninja even without graduating. That is why I say that I agree with Rob that he will be a rogue ninja.
And another thing, just because Luffy's labeled a crybaby by Ace and Sabo doesn't mean that every time he cries, it is something that affects his will. Kid Luffy was tied up and beaten with spiked gloves and even though he cried, he never gave up Ace and Sabo's secret even though he is a bad liar.
I don't know what you mean by Luffy having nightmares about ace every night? That was only mentioned in the 3D2Y movie. At least filler is anime canon but movies are its own canon. I wouldn't take events that happened in movies into account story-wise. And Ace died in front of Luffy BECAUSE OF LUFFY (in his mind). so that shock was not just about losing someone close, there's also self blame and guilt. Jiraiya did not die in front of Naruto. Luffy got himself together in a day because of Jinbei. Naruto had Iruka cheer him up then he stayed home for a week spaced out then Shikamaru had to drag him out to get through to him. After that, he was tempted to get revenge on Pain. But we haven't seen Luffy even talk about going after Akainu! The 2 years he took to train and that isn't even one of his goals! heck, we don't even know if Luffy will be the one to fight Akainu later on! We don't see Luffy praying to Ace or talking to him on the side somewhere. Naruto builds a shrine and visits Jiraiya right after the Pain fight ended . So how can you not say he did not get over it faster? Even when other people bring up Ace, like how zoro uses that to remind him that its okay not to go after vivi because he didn't go to save ace right away. We didn't even get a moment of Luffy arguing against it. All he did is make a meme face.
Their wills maybe interchangeable mid-series towards the end but not in the beginning. Luffy is getting a head start. Maybe he'll plateau mid series and Naruto would catch up but definitely not at the same pace at the start of the series.
Enel a guy who is lightning(light speed)
Can control millions of voltage
Scans the entire skypeia with his observations haki
Awaken logai
Rob luci
A flying leopard dude who can cut building and body is full steel
Kid naruto is really strong it seem bro was struggling against random ninja bounty hunters while protecting a carpenter where kakashi sweeps in and save both
Lightning isn't light speed
@@someonehavinganidentitycrisis then what speed
@@xchuckyff4000 almost a third of the speed of light
He isn't light speed. Lol. He is slower than Haku.
Lighting is way slower then light
I like that no one gets overly aggressive in these discussions. Its a breath of fresh air.
is this sarcasm?
Naruto loses at enel (PTS)
Luffy loses at gaara (PTS)
Naruto wins thru all of OP (TS)
Luffy loses at pain (TS)
*MY OWN OPINION* BASED ON THEIR ABILITIES AT THAT CURRENT FIGHT
bro let's be real Luffy will die on Haku
@@daryllfavortio6944facts
@@daryllfavortio6944luffy can break hakus mirrors, he can already shatter steel/iron with his bare hands
@@MicaW4VE haku can make more and haku LS movement mirror to mirror will kill luffy making him a pin cushion
@@daryllfavortio6944 doesn't matter if he can make more as soon as luffy breaks one he's out side of the circle and the jutsu consumes alot of Chakra so he can't just remake it without draining his reserves to empty
Some needles is not about to greatly affect luffy, the same person that willingly punched through spikes to hit his target
Did they actually skip over magellon like he wouldnt poisen him
Naruto is immune to poison attacks he has kurama
@@Thatfan864 no he isn't he's immune to small amounts of poison
@@Thatfan864 not immune to magellan's poison though 💀have you seen the capabilities that this man's poison can do to a person? naruto is NOT surviving magellan, bro is not gonna even make magellan sweat
@@gserendipity tell me what version of luffy fought him again 💀
@@Thatfan864 pre ts luffy, who, mind you has better endurance and durability than pre ts naruto and early ts naruto 💀
If luffy and naruto swapped, the naruto side cast would be way more developed
Ooh interesting. nice vid man. this is a good idea. i think u should do this with other characters
goku and saitama will be a good one
the dumbest debate i have ever seen
they concluded that naruto can beat enel
wtf bro seriously even most of the yonko commanders can't beat enel i doubt that even current zoro would have 50-50 chances against enel
and luffy lost to crocodile just cause he had power of absorbing moisture
enel lightning will not pass Kurama's charka cloak
Amaterasu a black flames that is as hot as the sun
Ten Tail cataclysm
is tank casually by kurama charka cloak
Ap wise Small to medium Meteor lvl
and Speed wise
Kid kakashi while fatigue Cut lightning in half before touching the ground
kurama Amp zero tails Kid naruto is Stronger and faster than Adult kakashi
let alone if will add Charka cloaks and 1-8 tails
now if we add some Boruto BS time Travel
kid naruto's AP and speed is on otsutsuki level
@@daryllfavortio6944 still luffy claps naruto's ass no diff
Naruto's rasengan and rasenshuriken will not work on him
He can use observation haki so clones will be no problem too
He is probably way faster than naruto and he can see the future hiting him will be almost impossible for naruto
So bro luffy can easily handle naruto
@@daryllfavortio6944 enels lightning was about some millions of voltage so he is gonna fry naruto and kurama
@@vaibhavpratapsingh8662 "fry naruto and kurama"
Pagaya a side character laughing in the corner
the moment kurama amp naruto he's faster than enel
"He can use observation haki"
naruto is slugging sasuke that have future sight that have x-ray
a Clone is a problem to enel
bro really think a Sub-sonic luffy with an obvious and have windup metal ball attack
is Stronger than a 1 tail kid Naruto Faster than lightning and have small-medium meteor AP with Vermillion Rasengan
the last thing naruto would be in the one piece verse is a revolutionary, the main concept and message on naruto is a right wing ideology, the show constantly says to us that the right thing to do is to become hokage, and if naruto achieves that he will become someone respectable by the others, they constantly treat the other villages as possible terrorist, the whole show presents a right wing concept, if naruto goes to the one piece verse he definitely would be a marine
There's no way luffy would be a village major, naruto basically thought if he became a hokage that's the only way he can get self respect it was never naruto's real dream and Luffy' s not the same
wth are you yapping about, it was literally all naruto was going on about growing up just that his goal started to evolve and him carrying jiraya's goals to which he somewhat achieved but never the less, naruto main goal was to still becoming hokage even when he gained all the respect after the 4gnw
@@sircondones1032 and why would a kid want to be hokage to look cool? Naruto wasn't in any conditions to look cool all he ever wanted was a normal life if minato and kiuna had survived there would be a much lower chance of naruto being the hokage like boruto, the author stated so many times that boruto is just like naruto.
Luffy would wanna be the kage of the entire world
Yeah Naruto had a flawed perspective on becoming hokage, even after Kakashi telling him time and time again, it took Itachi to talk sense into him when he was trying to take on the war "by himself". Naruto is more grounded and Luffy is more wild.
@@sircondones1032 coping mechanism
I wanna see the full version of this, like every little argument point altercation.
Video would be 3hours haha
@@shonenshowdowngood job on the video you know if you pick one piece then I'll pick one piece
@@shonenshowdownyou might want to do another one of these videos of course the Naruto Tards going to be biased up fucking course you did good man can't believe you lost damn
@@shonenshowdownLuffy would be better in Naruto this video was rigged you absolutely right
Both Shows are goated Mc’s as well 💯 Love the video n channel 🙏🏾 n Rob need u back on Topt 🙏🏾
Appreciate you bro! Yeah hopefully I can hop on again soon
how does naruto beat enel? also why the enel downplaying
Naruto can heal fatal injuries almost instantly, and on top of that how could enel possibly harm 4 tails naruto? I also think a tailed beast bomb from 4 tails naruto would be a serious problem for enel. Lastly we have speed, kid sasuke in base was dodging supersonic attacks easily, curse mark is a 10 times multiplier and sasuke later became as strong as he was in curse mark in base, so pre timeskip sasuke with curse mark and sharingan has a combat speed of over 150000 mph, naruto is relative to that with 1 tail, 4 tails naruto (which would unlock the angrier naruto gets) would have a combat speed of at LEAST 600, 000 mph which is faster than the speed of lightning
The time skips are very similar. I 100% believe luffy would have gear four when he returns and could dish out again kakazu, and potentially unlocks snakeman during the fight with pain. He would awaken sun god in the fight with madara or kaguya
also Naruto needs to learn about future sight to get past katakuri, cause he won't be able to see forward to dodge kata's attacks
Naruto has precog in Sage of Sixth Path mode. So he doesnt beed future sight@@kingme1313
That's a good point. However, they are fighting in an enclosed area. There really isn't much space for Katakturi to dodge a Rasenshuriken. @@kingme1313
@@kingme1313 he can use his shadow clones and make them all use precognition to predict katakuri's movement if that's hard he has danger sense anything that's dangerous to him he can react with senjutsu.
@@sinoxolombovane5455 The thing is they didn't say that naruto had haki, or luffy had chakra. But the statement about his danger sense and senjutsu is true enough. The whole thing is more along the lines with katakuri being able to see ahead, and his attacks managing to come from anywhere lol
Naruto uses transformation jutsu to turn into Shanks at marine ford. Talk no jutsu to stop the war and boom Ace lives
Rob is a bad debater… hate to say it
Underwater Fight "Naruto can walk on water"
Amazing and entertaining as always ❤
Good job guys, very good video
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@shonenshowdown mostly fun time 😭
na na na ya dodged enel, naruto getting wiped in that fight, respectfully of course@@shonenshowdown
If zoro and sanji got one taped by enel, there is no way a literal child is dodging and surviving Enel's lightning fast attacks.
Like always lowballing one piece as a whole. Its hilariious
Fr Naruto fans be something else he has shadow clones and kurama chakra so he can deal with all of pre timeskip 😂😂😂
I mean unless you’re talking about pre timeskip the Naruto verse scales much higher than the op verse tbh
I dont think yall in the comments who think enel would kill naruto know that kurama wouldnt let naruto die even if they werent friends. I dont think kurama wants to wait another 10 or so years to come back to life.
boa will turn him into stone and Naruto can't handle seeing a naked woman
He didnt even mention the soul ripping human path
Just one kinda weird thing here luffy when fighting pain won’t talk no Jutsu him to do rinne rebirth. Kakashi will stay dead and no dms against kaguya
I dont think either one makes it to the end of the others series but Luffy definitely makes it further cause what answer does Naruto have for Enel? Luffy beat him because he's rubber. How does Naruto counter? Luffy, on the other hand, makes it to the time skip and probably gets stopped at Pain, and if not Pain, he definitely gets washed by Madara
technically luffy doesn't beat enel... He just stops enel from killing the skypeaons. Enel still achieved his goal and went to the moon.
luffy dieng against gaara so he aint going that far either
@@YunoGrinberryall-qz1nk no just no
Naruto no speed??????
You realize that Sasuke was able to mimic the speed of rock Lee when he came back from his training. And Naruto was able to keep up with the same Sasuke that surpassed no weights, Lee.
Fr rock lee no weights was blitzing his shadow
No weights lee has no tangible speed scaling, yeah he's fast but how fast? All u can say about lee is that he's fast without weights and that's it.
Luffy in skypeia pre gear2 was already faster than a lightning speed man could keep up with
And gear 2 increases his speed by 5-10 times
@@MicaW4VE Lee already was sound speed with no weights would be faster then stack gates on top
@@faith4657 with what feats
you guys never do One Piece debates justice lol ya need to have BDA on or King of lightning lol Naruto world def much harder to get through pre time skip one piece but post time skip your talking about YONKO level battles. Luffy can easily detect Pain with voice of all things or observation That point alone should have made One Piece the winner. Also luffy may be week to piercing attacks but how many times do we see him purposefully punch through spikes and bite on blades to show how durable he is... ya be buggin man lol
Ways Luffy loses to Itachi
amaterasu
Genjutusu : would’ve been fighting Itachi for 20 days straight in an illusion
Luffy isn’t smart enough to figure out Itachi 😭
Facts and if it gets down to the wire itachi could just whip out the susaano and it’s ggs
Luffy doesn't have Chakra so genjutsu attacks wouldn't work on him
@@MicaW4VEitachi can put luffy under genjsutsu even without chakra. He can pour charak into luffy and its gg's.
@@flemz9000 luffy doesn't have a chakra network, so theres nothing to control with that Chakra
The only reason genjutsu works the way it does in Naruto is because the cerebral nervous system in naruto is based on a characters Chakra network, when someone messes with the person's Chakra network in their brain they change the Chakra flow or inject their own to alter what a person sees, hears, or feels with their 5 senses.
Luffy doesn't have a chakra network, it won't work
@@MicaW4VE tell that to the bees and animals without charka that where put under genjutsu, same with sage creature and tailed beast who literally have no charka network and are just balls of charka. Luffy will still be put under.
"Sasuke's Chidori"
Enel: *Eating chips*
"Kankuro's Bone's"
The plot point of Rock Lee and Gaara bailing Naruto out: *Takes some chips from Enel's bag*
Zoro and Sanji: *_Grins Maliciously_*
25:10 High chance Luffy would be the main reason why the villages would bring peace treaties like hot cakes.
you should do one with goku and saitama
Seeing ImTracyAllen was a pleasant suprise. W video (get that bag aswell bro)
One Piece team, takes first loss with grace. Naruto team takes loss with saltiness, shocker smh.
Yeah toxic onepiece fanboy just has to point that out have ever thought that could just be a personality trait
Ofc u wouldnt everything is black and white for you
Bruh everyone has a different personality it’s just a video enjoy it
@@mubarakjimba9210 ive seen multiple videos of that guy, he gets butt hurt everytime about everything. Just like now, you got butthurt about another Naruto fan being called out lol. Your salty about a simple observation of what took place, one group got upset, the other didnt.
@@pkluffy9332 like i said there are different typrs of people not everyone is the same so to say every naruto fan is like him is stupid and i got mad bc ive seen onepiece fan boys who cant accept a loss
I disagree luffy in pre Timeskip solo every one in Naruto part 1 and if he died in Naruto shippuden he get gear 5 and also with all Haki and his hax he slowly Naruto shippuden in I say kid Naruto lost to Crocodile cause he a logia type if he don’t lose to crocodile he lose to enel
**Ameterasu luffy could just take it off just by discarding unused ryou with the flames just like what Naruto did against sasuke in the final fight...(reason ryou just means flow)
** Pretimeskip luffy suffers with beacause of sharp attacks
This is a rubber lad that punched don Krieg thorn shield blood is not new for him (arlong/rob lucci/croc/enel.. luffy ate many slashing attacks)
**Pain fight what "will" does a dead body has against luffy an conqueror. also since everyone is handing multiple pains at once.
*Luffy doesn't hake chakra to get sucked
*Luffy literally ate large beast when hes 8 and his muscular power is no joke
*Arm hardening can evade mecha dude attacks and trash him
*Luffy can't even get periced with pain rods or slashed due to arm haki.
* The only problem was soul extraction to which haki in onepiece verse can even counter devil fruit effects..
...
There was lots of things that wrong in content about luffy. But, im cool with that
One piece is Fun story with adventure not a total action oriented ninja show which everyone connects
The joyfull part of one piece will not make u remember all scaled fight in one piece
The endurance of luffy his sharp instict of fight and dodging
I respect all the naruto fans and the content said about naruto..
But rob id seriously say that if u can't disrespect Naruto just to make luffy great that good of u, but show side only to ppl how have sense to understand
And to those nuts who only thinks of disrespecting the show and mc without any sense of brains just hungry for some views..
On op side I've not seen anyone brag down on Naruto that also should be case for Naruto side debaters..
I know it's a social content u all need views/likes/subs/content to say. but PPL could atleast be respectful abt the shows others adore.
I'm sorry to all real and respectful naruto fans reading this.
If PPL can say luffy died if dragon didn't appear if lighting didn't strike in lounge town..calling plot armor
Well I'd say Naruto would be dead long back with haku if not for kuruma.. well this ninja boy trapped all the plot armor in his belly and always used it stay alive and win
Naruto knows how to swim and walk on water..what use would it be when it's 10000 ft under sea when bubble pops Naruto is not a fish to breathe or a rubber man to handle such pressure.
And to think clones are good trick in post timeskip everyone has haki is just a walking joke. Against a conqer clones are just dust
I could also say hax of op world can make Naruto sweat
**I could say kuma could take kuruma out of Naruto body Naruto'd be dead
**Naruto vs kaido without haki I'd how he'd win..how he'd fight all logias at marineford where he doesn't even have any sealing knowledge
Rob if u want to make a debate Collab with PPL who have respect on both shows and respect. Even I could scream
Naruto is linear dumb story with a overpowered power sealed inside a boy who is destined how to control it, to save the world one day fighting insecurities and lonely issues running behind rouge kid just because his little school crushed begged who literally hate him cus he never raised by parents.
but it would only make look stupid as Ceaser clown to completely disregard the values and morals the story told which most of are found off
Rob u lost a subscriber today,I think it won't make a difference.. but eventually ull see changes in the wrong run..
Just because u slander the integrity between fandom by calling PPL like Gabe who most of us fans doesn't give a sh** on his opinion. Collaboration repeatedly just cus ur getting more likes / views / subs.
I subbed this channel watching ur videos of anime mc in room cus ur imitation was great.. but that changed a lot lately was mainly fan war based Collab wit PPL who doesn't even have no knowledge about story as rich as onepiece
u cant discard haki like that tf
fire idea fr ‼️
Naruto vs One Piece ❌❌
🍥vs 🍖 ✅✅
Y’all forgot Naruto is not making it to time skip he will just be turned into stone by boa 💀
Loving this video, but there too many very cringy/annoying memes throughout the video. But I love your content bro, I was just giving a tip!
Okay, I will fix that going forward!
So no 10 tails madara obito or kaguya ?
love u shonen showdown
Love you too
ok where are they getting the piercing attacks from? last time i checked if lethal finger guns from lucci wasnt doing it, a chidori , something luffy's naturally immune to is for sure not doing it. Cutting attacks i get, but the whole point of the Hito Hito no mi model :Nika is that piercing/ blunt force attacks dont really do anything to luffy.
What do you mean piercing dont affect luffy
Sasuke has the Amaterasu peircing attack
@@opaljames5291 from the east blue using normal bullets, to water 7 where cp9 used finger pistol all the way to whole cake island where crakers sword stab couldn't do it. Piercing attacks just don't do it.
Mole was an interesting case that was a 3 pronged sharp object used as a drill.
@@autobot1stlieutenantjazz980 bro the bullets in one piece are round they aren't like our bullets or snipers those will hurt him, and also chidori literally is a piercing attack that's the point finger pistol is just the size of a finger chidori is literally your whole hand and we have seen what it can do to the human body. Obito giant hole where his heart was, naruto destroyed lung.
@@faith4657 yes but the lighting is whats actually doing the piercing not the hand itself otherwise standered punches would do the same or everytime the hyuuga hit someone there would be a gaping hole where they hit
Ichigo slaps 😂
Can we get the entire vid for the ague because I wanna see 30 min ague for pain arc
Luffy dies to Orochimaru and Naruto saves Ace... That's the first thought I had. 😂
He would die at Zabuza! Water prison GAME OVER
pre timeskip naruto isn't even getting past don kreig
@@IHave3Legs kurama go brr kurama's Charka poisoning is Broken in one piece
Naruto debatably dies at enel luffy getting washed in the land of waves
Post:luffy stops at pain at max dies to madara or obito,Naruto clears
@@Thatfan864 There's always the factor of Kurama taking over, even way back in Episode 1 if Naruto was really in fatal danger. And I do think that 4 tails would at least survive an encounter with Enel.
So I do think Naruto clears One Piece, Luffy on the other hand is not surviving Orochimaru that early on or even Sasuke at some points.
But post timeskip, I think both have arguments for getting far, but Naruto clears up to where we currently are in the manga and Luffy probably stops at Juubidara or Kaguya depending on how you scale them.
Great video Rob! Would love to see this with other shows. and other youtubers!
I use caption to understand their conversation 😅
Please try to find someone with more knowledgeable with both series, because I feel this take is not good, and I can argue both sides of the story. Yes, I agree that Naruto has more stronger because of the gods itself, but in reality, take away the god itself, and they’re both in equal terms of strong World itself so that’s why I don’t agree with the takes that most people does.
Seeing as just Naruto and luffy are switched Naruto would lose to smoker because dragon wouldn't save him like he did for luffy.
kakashi will luffy not even half way in the series dies to zabuza he would use a water styled jutsu
@@YunoGrinberryall-qz1nk and let's not forget haku that have hax and stronger than zabuza
Ok so as a true neutral person my favorite anime is bleach if you doubt I’m neutral but Luffy if he went rouge at the skill he left the island with his stretchy power orochimaru would go after him and probably kill him. Naruto can handle marine ford because 4 thousand Naruto is strong, against pain luffy struggles purely because allmighty push, Naruto struggles Aganst Kaido unless we give that sage of six paths and not normal kcm
Naruto having kurama would not factor into his bounty at all tbh, yall bring up how the mystery of it would increase his bounty i call bs on that thou becuz they would just think its a devil fruit, yall gotta rememeber if you just drag and drop kurama into one piece he is gonna look like a puppy.
Basically Naruto is not an idiot he has battle iq and we know luffy has it to but after some defeats he thinks but with naruto he thinks how to maximize he techniques to fight efficiently so guys what do you think
11:06 if he at all even got here his arms woulda been gone cause he doesn’t have obs to forese mihawk cutting off his arms
19:40 the way bro just deadass 1000 yard stared into the camera like he was so done with Gabe genuinely made me laugh
I just wanna say for the garra vs Luffy the biggest difference is Fluffy didn't know Crocs df but naruto literally watched two of garra’s fights and garra was still injured from sasuke I'm pretty sure
In the fights Naruto watched,Gaara never turned into Shukaku.
@@kamadothorfinn8166 That’s true but that doesn’t mean much sense the automatic sand shield turns off and to beat him all you have to do is hit the unconscious garra really hard like Naruto did
Don't forget the anime fans power tierlist at the expo when the expo comes up😎
I was really really scared when I saw the intro you decided to change ur content to basically be the exact same as like legit 90% of anime UA-cam and I was so upset. But i clicked on the other recent videos and found you’re still you.
Nothing wrong with upping the quality and editing level, just don’t want you to get lost in it and end up being another Swagkage (and others just like him that I’m sure came before him he’s just a good example I can think off top)
Luffy in the the Naruto world and having a purpose isn't a far argument to have cause Naruto's whole world isn't as fleshed out as One piece's world is, so it's not easy to give him a purpose or a goal. Throw that question in the trash
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Luffy lost most of these because the naruto world isn’t diverse and doesn’t have a lot of options for him. Kinda stupid
Edit:On top of this it’s dumb to assume he wouldn’t build a team as a rogue ninja like he would as a pirate
I didn't expect Tracy to be in this video
Why is no one talking about genjutksu
So we just gon ignore the Enel fight? He’s a logia so how would naruto even touch him⁉️☠️
imagine naruto with haki tho he would be so strong
He would be top 3 in the verse
Luffy punched a seaking as large as manda the day he set out and knocked it out cold. He is stronger than orochimaru and jiraiya in terms of raw strength.
Sorry but pretime skip enel is dogging on naruto. Naruto can't touch enel, enel moves at lightning speed, and literally washed zoro, sanji and all of the enemies he faced, if we are saying aokiji is dogging vs naruto then enel is dogging on naruto since he doesn't need to hold back.
So sharingan isn’t the equivalent or the better of observation haki ?
sharingan is NOT better than observation haki, sharingan can see a few seconds into the future in a FIGHT SPECIFICALLY based on an opponent's movements and by reading their chakra, observation haki can see whether or not u will sneeze 5 seconds into the future, it also isnt based on any movements, even blind people can use observation haki to see the future
Why are they giving Naruto luffys abilities?🤷🏽♂️ since when did Naruto could use snake man 😅😅
How will future sight help with gravitational pull 😭
I don’t even know tbh
Knowing your gonna get pulled in before it actually happens means luffy can rush sasuke before he even activates the technique
3 of my fav anime UA-camrs collaboration I’am up for that..😂
I dont get the guy on the naruto team in the middle dude i saw his content and plus many times he didnt even finished one piece he dropped why we couldnt get someone who actually finished it and study it
All he ever did was saw clips all over social media and be like yea i know everything thats how people does be
The fact that u have to study it cant i br a casual watcher to understand the estimate of hi power
@@mubarakjimba9210 i mean its a good idea to have a dude that at least is up to date.. i mean how can you argue the full strength of a character without knowing their full strength
@@lilguycjd good point
@@lilguycjd because i know all of luffys feats it aint hard to google wtf he can do i stopped watching one piece at dress rosa your anime is sleeper
Glad to see Gabe returning🤣
Yeah I’m not. He’s my least favorite guest that is ever on the channel
@@shanehicks3814 he is by far the most funny and entertaining, all other are way more boring than him
@@petarpetrov2105 being loud and foolish doesn’t make you funny.
He’s not funny at all
@@shanehicks3814 ok
@@shanehicks3814 idk man just always find him funny, sometimes the takes are blasphemous though.
I haven’t seen bottom right on one piece team do anything 💀
I don't think luffy is surviving first 10 episodes of naruto because the first villain is water type in land of waves who uses slicing attacks and hidden mist
luffy has fought ppl with slashing and piercing attacks even before grand line
My favorite part of the video when rob got heated he say luffy fought a entire army by himself what are we doing 😂.
Ngl, Luffy joining akatsuki is the worst take in this video. Imagine Luffy joining baroque works
Love you guys but there were a LOT of horrible takes here. Had to take a break from the video and started talking to myself. Y'all really cooked me.
I don’t understand how we still compare op and naruto it’s not a opinion based thing it’s a feats thing luffy has zero feats that put him near Naruto