I am an athiest and so is my girlfriend but we are having mormon missionaries over this monday for a bbq. Not really agreeing on parts but other parts yes. But they are nice and i treat others how i want to be treated. So i heard them out and am having them back.
Thank you for feeding the missionaries. I joined the Church almost 37 years ago at age 24. Life is not easy, but making covenants with a loving God is worth it. I know that Jesus Christ lives and He is the Son of God and our Redeemer. It's mind-boggling sometimes that suffering is allowed by God's plan, but there is a reason (read 2 Nephi, Chapter 2). Happy New Year 2023, God loves you, knows you and every single person on earth. Amazing. He will be an absolutely fair judge. God bless you.
I have been privileged to see Peregrine travel this mighty road to find the true and living God. This story brought me to tears (of course). Fantastic, articulate and compelling. Thanks for posting this.
I love the creativity of the Lord he gathers his children one by one and in such specific and individualized ways. JP helped me realized I needed to start "telling the truth" better I hadn't realized how cowardice i'd been. And The interviewer is great!! he doesn't make it about himself- lets the interviewee tell their story
I don't understand why anyone would say that. It is a bit presumptuous to speak on behalf of an entire demographic that way. I did leave the church purely because of the core doctrines. I'm not offended, I'm not angry, and I didn't leave so I could sin. I'm just doing the best I can to make my beliefs to match reality.
Watching this really helped me. I'm struggling with my faith rn for some similar reasons and roommates who are less than Church-friendly rn. It's a lot to sort through, thank you again for this interview and for responding to people in the comments. It helps me at least see a pro-Church stance, it's hard when surrounded by a lot of negativity.
If in the struggling with faith some of it is about some hard topics you could look things up on Fair Mormon, the website or the UA-cam channel, they cover most of the hard things a couple of times.
Luv this. This gives me hope for my children. They used to go to church with me when they were little. Now they won't and two of them say they don't believe anymore. But of course I pray and hope they will come back to church one day.
This was awesome! Thank you for sharing your testimony and how you understand the Gospel! Keep Shining your light out to the world. It really helps a lot of people who feel like they are alone and in darkness. Shine the Light on the truth that's awesome!
Love this, my brother. Thanks for sharing your story! As a convert from Atheism myself I found it very relatable. You have a way with words, keep sharing His truth ❤
Just ran across this podcast and wanted to make a comment. In life, anytime we look for reasons to doubt God or doubt his church we will find them. I focus on looking for truths and knowledge of Christ to gain a relationship with Him. I can find no other faith with as much truth as the LDS church and in fact find more wrong elsewhere in theologies. The more I learn about the Prophet Joseph Smith as fallible as people try to paint the man that may have been, the more convinced I am of his calling was to restore the gospel oJesus Christ and plan of salvation to all people.
It is my experience that insulating your beliefs against critisism and doubt is a really good way to make sure you don't change your mind on a topic, but not a good way to find what is true. This way of thinking you are describing is called confirmation bias.
Really cool conversion story! Love the bit about having to humble oneself. Also interesting that Jordan Peterson played such a big role in your ability to open your heart to religion again, I too have learned a lot from him too, wise dude.
I absolutely love this video. When I was doubting the church, I found some atheist stuff. I noticed how I felt when I heard what these particular atheists were saying. It felt dark and unhappy. I know that when I focus on the doctrines I love about the church, I feel so much joy, like you were saying, Peregrine. I like how articulately you talk about these subjects. It's easy to understand when you talk. Thank you so much for sharing your story and your paradigm shift. I think thinking like this will help me when I'm a missionary to connect with atheists and other people I will teach. :)
@Dan Hoen I think you are wrong on this. I felt this dark feeling the entire time I was an atheist. I felt it every time I watched an atheist video. I felt like "yeah this is true, I'm fighting authority by feeling this way, yeah I don't need to care about my pornography addiction etc etc." But at the end of the day I found myself depressed and angry. It is not a momentary or temporary thing. At least it wasn't for me. Atheism is a depressing, nihilistic and empty worldview that never gets better.
This proves that the difference between religion and atheism is simple:Religion is very warm while atheism is extremely cold. So it’s basically like the polar opposites of fire and ice.
The Church is true. Watching/Listening to conversion stories and testimonies of other converts is really inspiring. I'm a recent convert here in the Philippines. I know the feeling of always asking for signs, but are not given until I had known the Missionaries.
Great testimony. It is true, all of it. Yesterday, today and tomorrow. Great to see how the Gospel has changed your life. It has certainly changed mine!!
Hey have you shared your conversion story with us before? If you would like to share it, feel free to send us a message on either Facebook or Instagram :)
@@SaintsUnscripted I've never shared it. Long story short, was a homosexual, deep in pornography, joined Wicca, had my pistol to my head convinced God hated me, missinaries came by
God shows us signs in personal ways that we can choose to remember or forget/ deny but no one else can corroborate. Our agency is intact and we have the opportunity to exercise faith.
Peregrine mentions taking 4 months of teaching before his conversion. How long do missionaries typically spend teaching someone? I guess I’m wondering how much time do the missionaries invest in one individual. Four months seems like quite a bit of dedication. How frequently do they meet? I’m sure this varies a ton, but just curious if there’s a general time frame.
It really depends. My wife investigated for over a year. My father was an investigator for over five years. My Scoutmaster from when I was a kid took 20. From my experience as a missionary, 3-5 months is about normal. Some people are faster than others. The quickest I've seen is about two weeks.
I wish my "intellectual" family would listen to this with some form of intellectual honesty. I am so happy for you. Searching the mysteries of God is fulfilling and meaningful.
I get it, brother. I am the only member in my family (other than my wife). We can take peace and comfort focusing on the atonement of Christ and the wonderful future we can expect to find.
Wonderful interview and comments. I've also become acquainted with Jordan Peterson and agree that he's what I would call a sincere seeker of goodness. I believe all who sincerely, thoughtfully, relentlessly seek to incorporate goodness into their lives will find divine realities and eventually God. Thanks for this video and congratulations for finding your nourishing path.
LDS Peregrine, your perspective is very interesting. it would be great to have an atheist that used to be Mormon on your channel to gain a better idea of why Mormons leave Mormonism and then are not convinced in the God of Mormonism (let’s call it AMormonism - a form of atheism). I totally agree that everyone should take a look at Mormonism because it at least had a fascinating history.
Tbh I have spoken to a lot of ex-members. I find their arguments consistently unconvincing. I will be debating some atheists and ex-members sometime in the future though, and when I start livestreaming you're welcome to call in and chat with me.
Hello DryZelph. I once strongly believed in Mormonism and I am now an atheist. If you have any questions or want to know a little about what led me to change my beliefs ask away.
@@jordannewberry9561 I’m not sure what’s out there if anything supernatural is but I haven’t been convinced that the Mormon god is real in about 6 years. Would love to hear an former atheist talk more about how they became an atheist and what convinced them to change their mind.
@@dryzelph7838 I was born into Mormonism. I took it seriously. I've studied it for most of my life and I know Mormon theology better than most. In preparation for serving a mission in Texas, I studied other religions online and compared them to my own. That's when I first encountered real criticisms about the church. It was then when I realized that my faith was invincible. I searched, but no one could prove for absolute certain that the Church's doctrines were false (In other words, I shifted the burden of proof). I could answer any objection to church doctrine with a skepticism. I considered any source of evidence to be less trustworthy than the intuitive communication I felt with God. Since no one could possibly prove that my spiritual experiences weren't what I believed them to be, I knew that God was real. After serving a mission I continued to learn about other religions. I watched a youtube channel that was critical of Jahova's Witness called Telltale (ua-cam.com/channels/gIi12EA6BQ8HKL8QUccsOQ.html). This allowed me to see the harm that could be done by a religion similar to my own without my guard going up. I allowed myself to be critical of that religion before realizing mine had similar flaws. In college, I learned formal logic and proper epistemology. I became familiar with the scientific process. My statistics professor suggested that I read "The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable" I learned some of the logical pitfalls that we all fall into more often than most of us realize. This education gave me the tools to see my own errors. Scientific epistemology is like an Egyptian pyramid. It is best to have a wide base of evidence from diverse sources to support an overarching theory (the tip of the pyramid). Mormonism's epistemic pyramid is built upside down. The entire weight of the religion rests on a single point: your own personal revelation experiences. As soon as I found that I did not have sufficient evidence to believe my emotions were messages from God, all of my other beliefs toppled quickly. Put briefly, the experiment described in Alma 32 is unfalsifiable therefore it can't be used to prove actual communication with God. I have a lot to say about this but this is already a long post. Losing faith was hard. I was no longer allowed in the temple, which was a dealbreaker for my girlfriend. We were talking about getting married by last summer. But she wanted a temple marriage and that wouldn't be possible with someone who no longer believes. I can't officially leave the church because I'm enrolled at BYU Idaho. I'm required to attend church every Sunday or else I'll be expelled. I've considered transferring to finish my degree elsewhere but I've already done a lot of classes here and a learning disability makes it difficult for me to change environments. I still have a good relationship with my family (they all still believe), but I feel isolated socially.
This happened for me too! I grew up in the church and was an athiest in 2015 for about 3 months, and I had a spiritual experience that changed my life and brought me back to the church. After experiencing athiesm, I will NEVER EVER go back! I honestly don’t understand why Athiests say the more they read the Bible the less they know it to be true because the more I read my Bible the MORE I know it to be true! They use the Old Testament as an excuse to reject God and the fact that Jesus told his disciples their generation won’t pass away until the son of man returns. Did it ever occur to them that Gods definition of a generation is different from ours? Maybe Jesus didn’t mean their specific generation. Maybe he meant the end times? As our church teaches, the Bible is true but mistranslated so much of what it says may be incorrect. The Book of Mormon though, as well as Islam saves many Athiests from athiesm. I consider myself a born again Christian and after the things I have experienced and witnessed and seen, I’ll never go back to athiesm again. Once you experience something like that, you can’t deny it. They can explain it away with logic and science all they want but with unexplained events, they always accuse people of lying even when another person confirms information they can’t possibly know. My best friend once had an NDE and was told information about a nurse and she did not overhear it, she was brain dead and the nurse was an athiest claiming the information my friend said, she couldn’t possibly have known. The nurse burst out in tears and dropped her tray of meds because she was in shock my friend knew the nurses information. The nurse asked her “how did you know that? Only I know that information. I have never told anyone” and my bestie said God told her. The other athiest doctors accused the nurse of lying and the nurse told them in tears no she’s telling the truth but they refused to believe her. Nobody ever believed me about my spiritual experiences either due to my false memory disorder but I didn’t have that disorder at the time these events occurred and I had told my best friend about it at the time it happened so I know my memories of it are 100% legit. My godmother had similar experiences but her dumb ass doctors convinced her Christianity was a delusion and that NDE’s were mental illness and now she denies that she ever told me about it to make me look crazy. I don’t care if anyone believes me or not because I know in my heart God exists. As far as Jesus telling his disciples they won’t pass away until the son of man returns, that I can’t explain. No idea what Jesus meant by that and that may be a mistranslation but either way I’m a believer and always will be. If I’m wrong hey I go into outer darkness because nothing is there but if I’m right and God is real, I’m saved so nothing to lose, nothing to gain for me 💗 I get bullied by Athiests online on a daily basis but I pray for them. No sense in arguing with those people because their hearts and minds are blinded by the world.
@@ldsperegrine I feel ya there. There are definitely some antagonistic people there. For me it's a place to interact with other members interested in ideas and discussion and to think outside of my comfort zone once in a while but I definitely get how it isn't for everyone
@@ReadingRaven019 yeah fair enough 👍 I think it's just a good idea to be careful you don't listen to too many apostate arguments because you may find yourself being drawn down a rabbit hole that it's very hard to get out of, and it starts with people arguing against the family Proclamation. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders though. I'm sure you can handle it 💙
Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Peregrine. It was extremely inspiring. I love what you said about the significance of purpose for us and our loved ones. I'm glad you found value in Jordan Petersen. I'm concerned that he has such appeal, because while he certainly has a lot of good advice in the self-help/mythic worldview department, he also comes inseparably linked with his diet-racism, low key misogyny, and pushes the pretty anti-semitic "cultural marxism" conspiracy theory, among other problems. There has to be some way to extricate the good from the bad, but it seems like a "poop in the brownie mix" type thing. I'd rather people learn from the sources Petersen is citing (Mostly Jung, Joseph Campbell, etc.) and just take a psych 101 class than keep his radioactive elements in their worldview. I dunno.
I would just disagree with you there. I've never heard him make a racist argument, (or diet racist as you say), and he never makes mysoginistic points either. He pushes back against far left conspiracy theories like the patriarchy and white privilege. I can understand if you disagree with him on that, but I don't know how you can understand and agree with his mythological points AND the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints doctrine and still believe in things like western patriarchy and modern day white privilege. Once again, we just politically disagree, which is ok. You can have your Jung and I will take my Peterson. Much love, brother 💙
For me was through writing/poetry and the response I received to my prayers on is Joseph Smith a profit. 2 times I wrote a poem. I go to to Bible/B.O.M. and post a poem. Sometimes just the version the day. Both times I prayed, wrote a poem and the B.O.M. verse was almost exactly about the same. Like a light came on. And said to God ok I get the messages
@@ldsperegrine: Perhaps you did. You said, essentially, that it doesn’t seem true, but that it is true. I guess I’m still curious, though. How did you make the jump from “this mythology is useful”/“this text teaches morality” to “this is all true?”
Well I can't find the part of the video you're referencing so I'll just say this: I think that most people when they hear our doctrine even if they don't think it's literally true, there is something about it that seems transcendent and impressive. I think I said in the video that while church history can sometime throw people off, the doctrine itself glows, or something like that.
@@seans5289 they're the same picture. (Laugh track) I believe that if something is morally true it is likely literally true as well, this is a complicated thing but I'll just say that I don't think moral truths are entirely separated from literal truths and this church is the most morally true thing I've ever come across. That got me the way to thinking it was possible, but then I had to have my own spiritual experiences in order to think it was actually true. And I did. 🤷♀️
Wouldn't it be easier to go from atheism to a religion? Like "I was wrong, there is a god, here he is" rather than "Everything I knew was wrong, how is this right?"
He says he was asking for a sign from God his entire life, and it finally happens that a particular song in shuffle plays? The laws of probability are such that eventually something "improbable" (aka low probability) will eventually happen, that needn't mean it's a sign from God/miracle. If you spend much of your life asking for a sign, eventually something is bound to happen that could be interpreted as such. Also, shuffle often uses an algorithm and isn't completely random. Was just googling the subject and read,for example, that some people have the issue of initially have shuffle play the songs in the same order until they turn it off and restart it. Perhaps he put the two songs in his playlist back to back because the religious subject matter or what not. As of the time in the video when I'm writing this comment (halfway through the video thus far) I don't believe he mentions which source he was using to playlist his music - spotify etc, which would be nice because I think it's relevant here. Also, just because intuition exists doesn't mean A god/gods exist.
@@ldsperegrine You don't understand probability? What Caroline says is true. Go repeat your experiment (guess the song) lets say 1,000 times, and you should expect to correctly guess about 5 times. Is that god?
@@dr.kennethspeers8014 I understand probability very well, Kyle. I never suggested that the song coming on was the miracle, the miracle was that I predicted what song it would be through a prompting from the Holy Ghost. You can minimise all you want it will not change the fact it happened to me. You can insult my intelligence all you want it wont change the fact you are wrong.
@@ldsperegrine I didn't say anything about your intelligence. You responded to the commenter with a sarcastic "ok buddy" when what they said is true of probability. That's the only reason I posted and I'm not sure what I'm wrong about.
@@dr.kennethspeers8014 "You don't understand probability?" is questioning my intelligence. Don't act like you had good intentions you knew exactly what you were saying when you said "Is that God?", if you were talking only about probability and weren't making an argument against my personal experiences then that last sentence wouldn't exist. Don't gaslight me lol
@11:09 A book that is written in 16th Century English..... Listen to that again. Why was Nephi, Ether or any other person writing with 16th century English verbiage, grammar and words.
Nephi allegedly wrote in some form of Egyptian, but it was translated into 16th century English to be in line with the king James translation of the Bible
This was interesting, a great listen. I’m an active temple attending and happily sealed member. I’m losing my faith in God, I only have hope, but not belief in a God. I only listen to Faith promoting content now after going down the anti-lds and other anti-god messages for a time. The majority of my sibling, in-laws, former lds friends have all left the church (some because they see Nelson as a fallen prophet due to his COVID shot lunacy, others due to the church waffling on or even outright supporting/white flagging the rainbow mafia). I hold on though. This type of content helps. God either exists or we’re just a bunch of useless and meaningless organisms trying to make a buck and eat. What a waste if that were true…
I will unsubscribe if not get explanation of my comment deleted. Just because I am ex mormon with intent of re-baptism does not make me lesser a person. Where is the charity?
Hey Darryl, there are multiple moderators for the comments sections so I'm not sure which comment of yours was deleted (if indeed that's what happened), but I would assume that if something was deleted it violated our community guidelines (which you can read in the 'community' tab of our channel). Also, if you tried posting a link, those comments are automatically deleted (allowing links is a great way to get spammed on each video). Glad to hear you're looking to be re-baptized. Sorry if you feel compelled to unsubscribe. Have a great day!
David I thought you was the one being inteviewed but you are the administrator. I am grateful for your repliey and my repliey still expresses the love for that person who contacted me which was you mate. I hope we can chat on your other web site and have contacted you there. god bless you brother in christ. darryl kirky is my facebook (studied at curtin University) perth western australia to locate me tho only one darryl kirky I think and no photo at this stage in the heading but else where you will see me. Love you brother......
A bit of coincidence that he converted to the Lds religion and then got married shortly after. It seems to me that he was influenced from outside sources like a girl haha. It seems like a conversion to lds from emotional arguments and pseudo intellectual arguments were the reasons for his “conversion.” I hope he had a sincere conversion. A relationship with Christ is first and he really never dwells with that instead he uses other people’s experiences to justify his reasoning to convert. He seems to seek the approval of men rather than God. Galatians 1:10. People use emotional reasons to convince themselves and use logic and reasoning to justify it. For example a song.If you convert because of a feeling from the Book of Mormon. A honest person would say “that is not a strong argument,” I myself could read the Quran and say “that my personal experience with the book has convinced me that Islam is the one true religion.” I think most Mormons would say that’s a bad reason to convert. The image of Christ carrying the cross is powerful but many Churches have this concept so what makes the Lds religion distinct from other churches? Also the doctrines that church has are nice and beautiful but is it true? Is that what the Lord Jesus Christ teaches? Or does that come from men with new ideas starting back to the 15th century. Also make sure to pay your tithing (10%) bro or not temple ceremonies for you. I appreciate his vulnerability. I recommend y”all reading the conversion story of St. Augustine. The book is called “Confessions.” He converted from a pagan religion to Christianity.
Thanks for having me on, guys. It was a pleasure :)
Thanks for sharing your story!
Brave. Vulnerable. Raw. I understand the Peterson connection. Thanks for telling your process in discovering truth.
@@BaileyYoung1 No worries :)
@@arxpoetica thank you! I am considering making a video on Peterson and the church of Jesus Christ's doctrine and how they line up.
Thank you so much for sharing your story! You have helped me to strengthen my faith. I will read again the Book of Mormon. ❤️
I am an athiest and so is my girlfriend but we are having mormon missionaries over this monday for a bbq. Not really agreeing on parts but other parts yes. But they are nice and i treat others how i want to be treated. So i heard them out and am having them back.
Bbq went great. Sent them home with some bbqd chicken which they were psyched to share with the other elders at the ward
Thank you for feeding the missionaries. I joined the Church almost 37 years ago at age 24. Life is not easy, but making covenants with a loving God is worth it. I know that Jesus Christ lives and He is the Son of God and our Redeemer. It's mind-boggling sometimes that suffering is allowed by God's plan, but there is a reason (read 2 Nephi, Chapter 2). Happy New Year 2023, God loves you, knows you and every single person on earth. Amazing. He will be an absolutely fair judge. God bless you.
Wonderful!
Such a good interview... as a former aethiest what he is saying really resonates with me. I am not LDS but am now Christian
Much love, brother
What’s the diff? I honestly don’t get it
@@tekoismith LDS is Christian but he is just saying he isn’t LDS and from another christian faith.
I have been privileged to see Peregrine travel this mighty road to find the true and living God. This story brought me to tears (of course). Fantastic, articulate and compelling. Thanks for posting this.
Much love, Hazel 💙
I served a LDS Mission in Perth in 1969 ....... it was a Beautiful City. Thanks for your wonderful story and testimony.
I love the creativity of the Lord he gathers his children one by one and in such specific and individualized ways. JP helped me realized I needed to start "telling the truth" better I hadn't realized how cowardice i'd been. And The interviewer is great!! he doesn't make it about himself- lets the interviewee tell their story
He was a great interviewer. Very nice guy. Maybe one day we can work together in the future :)
“The thing that leads people away is not core doctrine.” A very interesting point I hadn’t considered! Well said!
I don't understand why anyone would say that. It is a bit presumptuous to speak on behalf of an entire demographic that way. I did leave the church purely because of the core doctrines. I'm not offended, I'm not angry, and I didn't leave so I could sin. I'm just doing the best I can to make my beliefs to match reality.
This young man is wise beyond his years! Thank you for your testimony and for your raw honesty, truly an inspiration.
Thanks for watching!
Love that Peterson helped you in your conversion! Dude's a genius and a 🇨🇦
Watching this really helped me. I'm struggling with my faith rn for some similar reasons and roommates who are less than Church-friendly rn. It's a lot to sort through, thank you again for this interview and for responding to people in the comments. It helps me at least see a pro-Church stance, it's hard when surrounded by a lot of negativity.
If in the struggling with faith some of it is about some hard topics you could look things up on Fair Mormon, the website or the UA-cam channel, they cover most of the hard things a couple of times.
I'm glad this was of some help. God is always there for you. I recommend Latter-Day Saint Q and A, a fantastic youtube channel. Much love!
Luv this. This gives me hope for my children. They used to go to church with me when they were little. Now they won't and two of them say they don't believe anymore. But of course I pray and hope they will come back to church one day.
This young man's testimony is so similar to my own . I am so happy for him .
Thank you for sharing your journey! The gospel brings me so much joy and so grateful you have found that joy too!
This was awesome! Thank you for sharing your testimony and how you understand the Gospel! Keep Shining your light out to the world. It really helps a lot of people who feel like they are alone and in darkness. Shine the Light on the truth that's awesome!
Love this, my brother. Thanks for sharing your story! As a convert from Atheism myself I found it very relatable. You have a way with words, keep sharing His truth ❤
Thanks so much, will do :)
Just ran across this podcast and wanted to make a comment. In life, anytime we look for reasons to doubt God or doubt his church we will find them. I focus on looking for truths and knowledge of Christ to gain a relationship with Him. I can find no other faith with as much truth as the LDS church and in fact find more wrong elsewhere in theologies. The more I learn about the Prophet Joseph Smith as fallible as people try to paint the man that may have been, the more convinced I am of his calling was to restore the gospel oJesus Christ and plan of salvation to all people.
Very well said
It is my experience that insulating your beliefs against critisism and doubt is a really good way to make sure you don't change your mind on a topic, but not a good way to find what is true. This way of thinking you are describing is called confirmation bias.
This segment really talked to me. Correction SHOUTED to me. Loved it. Thx.
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Really cool conversion story! Love the bit about having to humble oneself. Also interesting that Jordan Peterson played such a big role in your ability to open your heart to religion again, I too have learned a lot from him too, wise dude.
Absolutely :)
Conversion stories can be so inspiring, thank you for sharing, Peregrine!
You're welcome, Laura!
@@ldsperegrine :-)
I absolutely love this video. When I was doubting the church, I found some atheist stuff. I noticed how I felt when I heard what these particular atheists were saying. It felt dark and unhappy. I know that when I focus on the doctrines I love about the church, I feel so much joy, like you were saying, Peregrine. I like how articulately you talk about these subjects. It's easy to understand when you talk. Thank you so much for sharing your story and your paradigm shift. I think thinking like this will help me when I'm a missionary to connect with atheists and other people I will teach. :)
I am so glad you made the right choice! Much love! 💙
@Dan Hoen I think you are wrong on this. I felt this dark feeling the entire time I was an atheist. I felt it every time I watched an atheist video. I felt like "yeah this is true, I'm fighting authority by feeling this way, yeah I don't need to care about my pornography addiction etc etc." But at the end of the day I found myself depressed and angry. It is not a momentary or temporary thing. At least it wasn't for me. Atheism is a depressing, nihilistic and empty worldview that never gets better.
This proves that the difference between religion and atheism is simple:Religion is very warm while atheism is extremely cold. So it’s basically like the polar opposites of fire and ice.
great Conversion story! I am a convert as well and you and I had very similar stories so I 100% related to your story!
The Church is true. Watching/Listening to conversion stories and testimonies of other converts is really inspiring. I'm a recent convert here in the Philippines. I know the feeling of always asking for signs, but are not given until I had known the Missionaries.
this reminds me so much of my own conversion thanks for sharing Peregrine !!
No worries, friend :)
Beautiful and very inspiring
I served my mission in Perth I love it and I miss it dearly
Great testimony. It is true, all of it. Yesterday, today and tomorrow. Great to see how the Gospel has changed your life. It has certainly changed mine!!
I was baptized in April, 2020 and received my Melchizedek a week ago. It was very easy for me leaving the Catholic church.
Hey have you shared your conversion story with us before? If you would like to share it, feel free to send us a message on either Facebook or Instagram :)
@@SaintsUnscripted I've never shared it. Long story short, was a homosexual, deep in pornography, joined Wicca, had my pistol to my head convinced God hated me, missinaries came by
Thanks for your wonderful testimony.
You're welcome :)
God shows us signs in personal ways that we can choose to remember or forget/ deny but no one else can corroborate. Our agency is intact and we have the opportunity to exercise faith.
Absolutely true.
The blessing of God bring joy! Seek those with joy in their life and you will find the followers of God!
Thank you for sharing your conversion. You are an awesome young man. Heavenly Father bless you and your family.
Thank you so much! Much love :)
Thank you so much. Awesome testimony!
Thank you! 💙
Wow I am so impressed with how articulate you are!
Thankyou!
You’re very articulate and thanks for doing this. So glad you found the gospel. You’re a great asset.
No worries, thankyou for your support :)
Awesome testimony!
Peregrine mentions taking 4 months of teaching before his conversion. How long do missionaries typically spend teaching someone? I guess I’m wondering how much time do the missionaries invest in one individual. Four months seems like quite a bit of dedication. How frequently do they meet? I’m sure this varies a ton, but just curious if there’s a general time frame.
It really depends. My wife investigated for over a year. My father was an investigator for over five years. My Scoutmaster from when I was a kid took 20. From my experience as a missionary, 3-5 months is about normal. Some people are faster than others. The quickest I've seen is about two weeks.
Good question. We met once a week for an hour or two. They were very good about it and very good about my questions.
So cool! Loved this!
Glad you loved it!
Jordon Peterson has some great ideas. One of the great intellectual minds of our time.
One of the best conversion stories!
And now he's a defender. ⚔️✝️
Thank you, my friend 💙
I wish my "intellectual" family would listen to this with some form of intellectual honesty. I am so happy for you. Searching the mysteries of God is fulfilling and meaningful.
I get it, brother. I am the only member in my family (other than my wife). We can take peace and comfort focusing on the atonement of Christ and the wonderful future we can expect to find.
Wonderful interview and comments. I've also become acquainted with Jordan Peterson and agree that he's what I would call a sincere seeker of goodness. I believe all who sincerely, thoughtfully, relentlessly seek to incorporate goodness into their lives will find divine realities and eventually God. Thanks for this video and congratulations for finding your nourishing path.
Yay!! So wonderful to hear. 😊😊😊🌻🌻🌻
I thought all Australians were like Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin! Rescuers Down Under!! :-D
Awesome story man!
Common misconception haha
Wow this is a great testimony and very inspiring.
You are very smart and analytical! Good for you. All the best!
Great video! SO GLAD I CLICKED IT!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I enjoyed the conversation, worth listening...
Wonderful!!!!
Thank you.
LDS Peregrine, your perspective is very interesting. it would be great to have an atheist that used to be Mormon on your channel to gain a better idea of why Mormons leave Mormonism and then are not convinced in the God of Mormonism (let’s call it AMormonism - a form of atheism). I totally agree that everyone should take a look at Mormonism because it at least had a fascinating history.
Tbh I have spoken to a lot of ex-members. I find their arguments consistently unconvincing. I will be debating some atheists and ex-members sometime in the future though, and when I start livestreaming you're welcome to call in and chat with me.
Hello DryZelph. I once strongly believed in Mormonism and I am now an atheist. If you have any questions or want to know a little about what led me to change my beliefs ask away.
@@jordannewberry9561 I’m not sure what’s out there if anything supernatural is but I haven’t been convinced that the Mormon god is real in about 6 years. Would love to hear an former atheist talk more about how they became an atheist and what convinced them to change their mind.
@@dryzelph7838 I was born into Mormonism. I took it seriously. I've studied it for most of my life and I know Mormon theology better than most. In preparation for serving a mission in Texas, I studied other religions online and compared them to my own. That's when I first encountered real criticisms about the church. It was then when I realized that my faith was invincible. I searched, but no one could prove for absolute certain that the Church's doctrines were false (In other words, I shifted the burden of proof). I could answer any objection to church doctrine with a skepticism. I considered any source of evidence to be less trustworthy than the intuitive communication I felt with God. Since no one could possibly prove that my spiritual experiences weren't what I believed them to be, I knew that God was real.
After serving a mission I continued to learn about other religions. I watched a youtube channel that was critical of Jahova's Witness called Telltale (ua-cam.com/channels/gIi12EA6BQ8HKL8QUccsOQ.html). This allowed me to see the harm that could be done by a religion similar to my own without my guard going up. I allowed myself to be critical of that religion before realizing mine had similar flaws.
In college, I learned formal logic and proper epistemology. I became familiar with the scientific process. My statistics professor suggested that I read "The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable" I learned some of the logical pitfalls that we all fall into more often than most of us realize. This education gave me the tools to see my own errors.
Scientific epistemology is like an Egyptian pyramid. It is best to have a wide base of evidence from diverse sources to support an overarching theory (the tip of the pyramid). Mormonism's epistemic pyramid is built upside down. The entire weight of the religion rests on a single point: your own personal revelation experiences. As soon as I found that I did not have sufficient evidence to believe my emotions were messages from God, all of my other beliefs toppled quickly. Put briefly, the experiment described in Alma 32 is unfalsifiable therefore it can't be used to prove actual communication with God. I have a lot to say about this but this is already a long post.
Losing faith was hard. I was no longer allowed in the temple, which was a dealbreaker for my girlfriend. We were talking about getting married by last summer. But she wanted a temple marriage and that wouldn't be possible with someone who no longer believes. I can't officially leave the church because I'm enrolled at BYU Idaho. I'm required to attend church every Sunday or else I'll be expelled. I've considered transferring to finish my degree elsewhere but I've already done a lot of classes here and a learning disability makes it difficult for me to change environments. I still have a good relationship with my family (they all still believe), but I feel isolated socially.
He joined the church through Jordan Peterson! I LOVE it!!
Jordan Peterson is great.
lol yeah. I cracked a grin when he said that.
Hi. Can you do a part 2 with Peregrine please? 🙃
I was just listening to Jordan Peterson last night haha!
That's exactly what happened facts!
This was amazing.
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“Every single atheist I knew were unhappy.”
This. 💯
The name peregrine means pilgrim, or traveler. Appropriate name for a convert
Truuuuuue
Thank you
This happened for me too! I grew up in the church and was an athiest in 2015 for about 3 months, and I had a spiritual experience that changed my life and brought me back to the church. After experiencing athiesm, I will NEVER EVER go back! I honestly don’t understand why Athiests say the more they read the Bible the less they know it to be true because the more I read my Bible the MORE I know it to be true! They use the Old Testament as an excuse to reject God and the fact that Jesus told his disciples their generation won’t pass away until the son of man returns. Did it ever occur to them that Gods definition of a generation is different from ours? Maybe Jesus didn’t mean their specific generation. Maybe he meant the end times? As our church teaches, the Bible is true but mistranslated so much of what it says may be incorrect. The Book of Mormon though, as well as Islam saves many Athiests from athiesm. I consider myself a born again Christian and after the things I have experienced and witnessed and seen, I’ll never go back to athiesm again. Once you experience something like that, you can’t deny it. They can explain it away with logic and science all they want but with unexplained events, they always accuse people of lying even when another person confirms information they can’t possibly know. My best friend once had an NDE and was told information about a nurse and she did not overhear it, she was brain dead and the nurse was an athiest claiming the information my friend said, she couldn’t possibly have known. The nurse burst out in tears and dropped her tray of meds because she was in shock my friend knew the nurses information. The nurse asked her “how did you know that? Only I know that information. I have never told anyone” and my bestie said God told her. The other athiest doctors accused the nurse of lying and the nurse told them in tears no she’s telling the truth but they refused to believe her. Nobody ever believed me about my spiritual experiences either due to my false memory disorder but I didn’t have that disorder at the time these events occurred and I had told my best friend about it at the time it happened so I know my memories of it are 100% legit. My godmother had similar experiences but her dumb ass doctors convinced her Christianity was a delusion and that NDE’s were mental illness and now she denies that she ever told me about it to make me look crazy. I don’t care if anyone believes me or not because I know in my heart God exists. As far as Jesus telling his disciples they won’t pass away until the son of man returns, that I can’t explain. No idea what Jesus meant by that and that may be a mistranslation but either way I’m a believer and always will be. If I’m wrong hey I go into outer darkness because nothing is there but if I’m right and God is real, I’m saved so nothing to lose, nothing to gain for me 💗 I get bullied by Athiests online on a daily basis but I pray for them. No sense in arguing with those people because their hearts and minds are blinded by the world.
Amen
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Its a good book and a good church
When were you baptized? My friend served a mission there. Her name is Sister Beckstrand.
Wow, that was really good.
Thankyou! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
A fellow lobster saint, awesome!
Yay! Not a fan of the latter-day lobsters on Facebook as they are a bit too anti-famproc for me. But Jordan Peterson is great.
@@ldsperegrine I feel ya there. There are definitely some antagonistic people there. For me it's a place to interact with other members interested in ideas and discussion and to think outside of my comfort zone once in a while but I definitely get how it isn't for everyone
@@ReadingRaven019 yeah fair enough 👍 I think it's just a good idea to be careful you don't listen to too many apostate arguments because you may find yourself being drawn down a rabbit hole that it's very hard to get out of, and it starts with people arguing against the family Proclamation. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders though. I'm sure you can handle it 💙
Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Peregrine. It was extremely inspiring. I love what you said about the significance of purpose for us and our loved ones.
I'm glad you found value in Jordan Petersen. I'm concerned that he has such appeal, because while he certainly has a lot of good advice in the self-help/mythic worldview department, he also comes inseparably linked with his diet-racism, low key misogyny, and pushes the pretty anti-semitic "cultural marxism" conspiracy theory, among other problems. There has to be some way to extricate the good from the bad, but it seems like a "poop in the brownie mix" type thing.
I'd rather people learn from the sources Petersen is citing (Mostly Jung, Joseph Campbell, etc.) and just take a psych 101 class than keep his radioactive elements in their worldview. I dunno.
I would just disagree with you there. I've never heard him make a racist argument, (or diet racist as you say), and he never makes mysoginistic points either. He pushes back against far left conspiracy theories like the patriarchy and white privilege. I can understand if you disagree with him on that, but I don't know how you can understand and agree with his mythological points AND the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints doctrine and still believe in things like western patriarchy and modern day white privilege. Once again, we just politically disagree, which is ok. You can have your Jung and I will take my Peterson. Much love, brother 💙
Hey Morgan!
For me was through writing/poetry and the response I received to my prayers on is Joseph Smith a profit. 2 times I wrote a poem. I go to to Bible/B.O.M. and post a poem. Sometimes just the version the day. Both times I prayed, wrote a poem and the B.O.M. verse was almost exactly about the same. Like a light came on. And said to God ok I get the messages
What do you mean when you say that the teachings of the church are true, but also that they don’t “seem true?” What makes them seem untrue?
When did I say they don't seem true? I think the point I was making is that generally they DO seem true, but maybe I misspoke.
@@ldsperegrine: Perhaps you did. You said, essentially, that it doesn’t seem true, but that it is true.
I guess I’m still curious, though. How did you make the jump from “this mythology is useful”/“this text teaches morality” to “this is all true?”
Well I can't find the part of the video you're referencing so I'll just say this: I think that most people when they hear our doctrine even if they don't think it's literally true, there is something about it that seems transcendent and impressive. I think I said in the video that while church history can sometime throw people off, the doctrine itself glows, or something like that.
@@seans5289 they're the same picture. (Laugh track)
I believe that if something is morally true it is likely literally true as well, this is a complicated thing but I'll just say that I don't think moral truths are entirely separated from literal truths and this church is the most morally true thing I've ever come across. That got me the way to thinking it was possible, but then I had to have my own spiritual experiences in order to think it was actually true. And I did. 🤷♀️
@@ldsperegrine: Is it possible for a text to teach transcendent moral truth but also be purely fictional?
Love Jordan Peterson. I listen to him often.
This guy is friends with my friend
I am? Who is your friend?
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Wouldn't it be easier to go from atheism to a religion? Like "I was wrong, there is a god, here he is" rather than "Everything I knew was wrong, how is this right?"
It is, but not because you think. It's because the Holy Ghost confirms the truth of it to you. Much quicker.
Love your story...wonderful...where did u meet your wife?
So a song came on your playlist and that's proof that Joseph Smith was a prophet, who spoke directly with God .
I think he meant the song gave him a sign to start looking back into Chrsitianity, and then that lead him to the Church.
Thank you for your story. Now to convince Jordan. He would make an incredible Latter-day Saint.
I reached out to this brother as live in same city, but my comment was deleted why?
Hope this brother that was inteviewed reaches out to me from as both live in the same city...... thankyou David for contacting me on my facebook
Love Jordan Peterson. He himself is on a road to belief.
He will accept the truth in the next life for sure :)
He says he was asking for a sign from God his entire life, and it finally happens that a particular song in shuffle plays? The laws of probability are such that eventually something "improbable" (aka low probability) will eventually happen, that needn't mean it's a sign from God/miracle. If you spend much of your life asking for a sign, eventually something is bound to happen that could be interpreted as such. Also, shuffle often uses an algorithm and isn't completely random. Was just googling the subject and read,for example, that some people have the issue of initially have shuffle play the songs in the same order until they turn it off and restart it. Perhaps he put the two songs in his playlist back to back because the religious subject matter or what not. As of the time in the video when I'm writing this comment (halfway through the video thus far) I don't believe he mentions which source he was using to playlist his music - spotify etc, which would be nice because I think it's relevant here. Also, just because intuition exists doesn't mean A god/gods exist.
ok buddy
@@ldsperegrine You don't understand probability? What Caroline says is true. Go repeat your experiment (guess the song) lets say 1,000 times, and you should expect to correctly guess about 5 times. Is that god?
@@dr.kennethspeers8014 I understand probability very well, Kyle. I never suggested that the song coming on was the miracle, the miracle was that I predicted what song it would be through a prompting from the Holy Ghost. You can minimise all you want it will not change the fact it happened to me. You can insult my intelligence all you want it wont change the fact you are wrong.
@@ldsperegrine I didn't say anything about your intelligence. You responded to the commenter with a sarcastic "ok buddy" when what they said is true of probability. That's the only reason I posted and I'm not sure what I'm wrong about.
@@dr.kennethspeers8014 "You don't understand probability?" is questioning my intelligence. Don't act like you had good intentions you knew exactly what you were saying when you said "Is that God?", if you were talking only about probability and weren't making an argument against my personal experiences then that last sentence wouldn't exist. Don't gaslight me lol
Atheist mentality and religious mentally are similar by that they both go in faith to support their beliefs. No proof and no surprise.
I'm an agnostic atheist and a Pyrrhonian skeptic. I do not rely on faith.
@@jordannewberry9561 ataraxia4life... Skeptic would be zetetic? Wiki only breezed over it
@11:09 A book that is written in 16th Century English..... Listen to that again. Why was Nephi, Ether or any other person writing with 16th century English verbiage, grammar and words.
Nephi allegedly wrote in some form of Egyptian, but it was translated into 16th century English to be in line with the king James translation of the Bible
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This was interesting, a great listen. I’m an active temple attending and happily sealed member. I’m losing my faith in God, I only have hope, but not belief in a God. I only listen to Faith promoting content now after going down the anti-lds and other anti-god messages for a time. The majority of my sibling, in-laws, former lds friends have all left the church (some because they see Nelson as a fallen prophet due to his COVID shot lunacy, others due to the church waffling on or even outright supporting/white flagging the rainbow mafia). I hold on though. This type of content helps. God either exists or we’re just a bunch of useless and meaningless organisms trying to make a buck and eat. What a waste if that were true…
I will unsubscribe if not get explanation of my comment deleted. Just because I am ex mormon with intent of re-baptism does not make me lesser a person. Where is the charity?
Hey Darryl, there are multiple moderators for the comments sections so I'm not sure which comment of yours was deleted (if indeed that's what happened), but I would assume that if something was deleted it violated our community guidelines (which you can read in the 'community' tab of our channel). Also, if you tried posting a link, those comments are automatically deleted (allowing links is a great way to get spammed on each video). Glad to hear you're looking to be re-baptized. Sorry if you feel compelled to unsubscribe. Have a great day!
David I thought you was the one being inteviewed but you are the administrator. I am grateful for your repliey and my repliey still expresses the love for that person who contacted me which was you mate. I hope we can chat on your other web site and have contacted you there. god bless you brother in christ. darryl kirky is my facebook (studied at curtin University) perth western australia to locate me tho only one darryl kirky I think and no photo at this stage in the heading but else where you will see me. Love you brother......
thankyou for personally replieying to me on my facebook. god bless you DAVID
Drinking coffee all day? Shame! 😂😂😂
A bit of coincidence that he converted to the Lds religion and then got married shortly after. It seems to me that he was influenced from outside sources like a girl haha. It seems like a conversion to lds from emotional arguments and pseudo intellectual arguments were the reasons for his “conversion.” I hope he had a sincere conversion. A relationship with Christ is first and he really never dwells with that instead he uses other people’s experiences to justify his reasoning to convert. He seems to seek the approval of men rather than God. Galatians 1:10. People use emotional reasons to convince themselves and use logic and reasoning to justify it. For example a song.If you convert because of a feeling from the Book of Mormon. A honest person would say “that is not a strong argument,” I myself could read the Quran and say “that my personal experience with the book has convinced me that Islam is the one true religion.” I think most Mormons would say that’s a bad reason to convert. The image of Christ carrying the cross is powerful but many Churches have this concept so what makes the Lds religion distinct from other churches? Also the doctrines that church has are nice and beautiful but is it true? Is that what the Lord Jesus Christ teaches? Or does that come from men with new ideas starting back to the 15th century. Also make sure to pay your tithing (10%) bro or not temple ceremonies for you. I appreciate his vulnerability. I recommend y”all reading the conversion story of St. Augustine. The book is called “Confessions.” He converted from a pagan religion to Christianity.
You don't know anything about me.