Why, why do you have such a small channel, bro, you are doing your thing from the heart, but you still have only 19k subscribers... Dont give up man, we need people like you. For me, you opened my eyes to AoS, and now I know it is a cool universe, thanks man for what you do
Great video as always, definitely fundamental information that is good to go over. The one great take away from your vid was the analogy of "Lava." Such a great visual.
Some more realm weirdness for anyone who hasn’t researched yet, Hysh and Ulgu (don’t judge my spelling) which are the realms of light and shadow, orbit each other, similar to how you might think of a yin/yang symbol and that produces light and night for the realms. Also Azyr is like the North Star which can be seen above the other realms. These were difficult, abstract thoughts for me to grab onto but now I think it’s pretty cool.
As much fun as the idea of Disc worlds can be, the idea of spherical planets is really fantastic to me. The idea of Realmgates that would allow Steampunk/Arcanepunk armies to travel to other planets to do battle for power and resources just blows my mind. I understand if that's too sci-fi and treads too close to 40k. It's just so METAL!
I'm interested to see what the upcoming Age of Sigmar roleplaying game does as far as Realm background and description - maybe they'll concentrate on a couple of areas initially and flesh them out more? Details on some of the big cities would be interesting.
Have you done the Thanquol video/s yet? Definitely one of my favourite characters. An awesome part of the Gotrek & Felix saga & being a character that spans old world & new, it would be awesome to see you do a run down of his history & lore.
This has been one of the biggest hurdles for me to overcome when talking AoS up to other wargamers. Everyone just glazes over when I try to explain what the realms are.
We need a role playing game set in the Realms. It would be amazing to see them realized and be able to explore them. Think Borderlands meets Elder Scrolls. Gimme Gimme.
As someone who's played Warhammer Fantasy for the past 23-odd years and is only just getting into Age of Sigmar, this was a great video thank you! Really helped me understand and visualise the realms, and got me thinking about what sort of world my Sylvaneth will live in. That flat earth picture hurt my soul though, how do some people believe that about our world :'(
Have you done a video about how characters from the old world where able to suddenly reapear in the realms? like Gothrek for example or Manfred from Carstein?
I know its a little late but thanks for this - Last time I played table top WarHammer was 4th edition? Had an undead army, even a Nagash model. Now I dont get much time to play but knew they changed the game world to something called "Age of Sigmar" and wanted to know the general idea of it. Little sad the old world is gone but happy the bad ass lich king himself still has an army!
Have you done a review on the soul wars box? The starter one with the nighthaunt and stormcast? I was wondering what sort of models I should buy to upgrade the nighthaunt, loved your videos it's really helped me since I've come back to Warhammer after playing fantasy
I play the Nighthaunt (but only casual games so don't expect any ultra-competitive advice from me). Assuming you already have the Soul Wars box, I'd advise upgrading to a full unit of Grimghast Reapers and then maybe try playing with some Bladegheist Revenants. Oh, and another unit of Chainrasps and a second Spirit Torment wouldn't go amiss. Plus, if you have the money, the Black Coach just looks awesome! I've also converted up a Vampire Lord out of an Idoneth Deepkin Soulscryer, as an ally they're awesome as they can resurrect your ghosts automatically.
Interesting. I mostly read the wikis for warhammer fantasy lore, and have focused more on the old world when it comes to learning about. The realms is an interesting idea for the series, question though which I don't think you mentioned or perhaps have another video on, what happened to the old world to become the realms and was the old world within the realms like the worlds are currently, ergo was the world a disk before? What happened to the moons and such?
how can daemons fit in this whole "coming from realm X" theme? even if they now can stay in the mortal realms, they essentially all come from the realm of chaos.
This is true, they ultimately originate from the realm of chaos. But the longer you stay in a realm, the more it effects you. So even a Daemon of khorne, spawned into Ulgu (realm of shadow) can see his skin turn dark, and begin to use the shadows as a weapon...over time of course.
Hey Doug, i have a sorta dumb question. For the book club the book for blacktalon isn't available on amazon until the end of this month. However, you said you would be reviewing it this month. Am I missing something?
huh... they must be re-releasing it... or switching from hardback to softback. The book has been out for a while and I've just been listening on Audible lol
I'm under the impression that, while other celestial bodies exist (like the Orb Infernia over in Aqshy), most realms see the stellar landscape of Azyr in the sky for the most part, with Azyr itself simply seeing... more of itself.
So how do the factions interact with each other if they are in different realms? Is everyone just in their own continent and sometimes one faction tries to movie into another realm to conquer it?
Every faction is in every Realm and the realms are so vast that they don't have to come into conflict. For example: a Kharadon fleet can live a million kilomètres above à Daughters of Khaine temple who live on a coast of a sea within which swim Idoneth and they can all be completely unaware of each other
They made it more like d and d with the whole realms thing. And thats one reason i like whfrp better is because the world is based on the one we live in and they gave a decent explanation for why theres a parallel.
the realms in AOS have caused a lot of confusion to me. I played a bit of Total War Warhammer 2 (which i know is based on WH Fantasy), but Ive been confused as to why it is as realms and not the old world layout. Like it seems much more confusing for how the undead from shyish go to another realm or something like that rather than just having one large openly accessible map where armies can move about and fight eachother and take control of new territories in the same world why would undead make a settlement in another realm that doesnt really suit them and that is largely controlled / owned by another faction (from a newbie perspective)? It seems like it makes it more difficult to add lore to a battle as a new player (like in an AOS Path to Glory campaign). As a newer AOS player who knows about the old world and stuff it feels much more confusing.
Sooooo after the end times all this is just happening in different reamls in the warp? So when the planet blew up and siggyboy and the dragon made the realms its not really a tangible thing. Like the realms of man are kindof on the same plane in the warp as the realm of chaos? Or are they pockets of shattered reality in a pocket dimension like comorragh. If a person wants to play fantasy roleplay in this setting is it even possible? It would be hard to play a chart based game if you have 8 map charts for 8 different realms. Moving around becomes logistically complicated if you don't want to break the fourth wall.
They aren't in the Warp. The warp is connected but they ain't in it. They are suspended within their own little void, like Commorragh. Also the Core book has plenty of maps to show you what the realms are like and how to navigate them. Navigating is also rather easy as you still just need to make a line on a map. Sure, if you want to go from Island X in Chamon to city Y in Ghur you need to find the closest realm gate but that isn't that complicated at all unless you want it to be
I think this whole infinitely expendeble thing is overrated. Sure you can do anything but everything looses significance pretty much. Because you can simply think of a new city if one gets destroyed. I like the idea of these realms though but id prefered them limited in size.
Thanks for this, it definitely helped. I would be interested in knowing the private thoughts of the BL authors regarding the entire transformation. I’m trying to give the lore a chance but haven’t found much to form a sentimental connection with. I’m honestly looking forward to the return of the Old World.
The realms are roughly the size of the Old World. So my question is WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST KEEP THE OLD WORLD?!?! You could have still had it, Sigmar could have still been a self-righteous short sighted beard boy who allowed Gorkamorka and Nagash to sit on his council (like the idiot he is), and still keep the Old World Continuity. Hell they brought back Gotrex (still waiting on Felix) to mock the new stuff.
Are you talking about Old World as continent that was called as The Old World or about a planet itself? Because he said almost from the begining of the video ( 1:20 ) that these realm are way bigger to human mind to comprehend. Also the reason GW went with Realms theme was that wanted to do the same thing as in 40k, where the galaxy is so big that you can easily add your own planet to set a campaign on and make your own custom space marine Chapter or Eldar craftworlds or whatever. In Old World (the planet) you really can't do the same thing, world map being a slightly altered map of Earth.
That still doesn’t explain why they had to destroy the Old World. The core of the World that Was (Old World) is a hub for each realm. So destroy it. Make the gates at the North and South portals to the other realms. Easy peasy.
That is literelly exact reason why they destroyed the Old World. Phil Kelly even himself in one of the Stormcast Podcast kinda said the same thing that I said. ua-cam.com/video/KS8xwZsrmoE/v-deo.html First 6 minutes from the video, take a look if you want and/or if you got time. Take a listening to it and judge yourself.
For me, the idea of the Realms is the worst trope in the Age of Sigmar. The Old World was familiar, yet with a solid amount of Fantasy. Dangerous continents from our World were even more nightmarish in the Warhammer version. Everyone shared the same planet and the rules were logical, it was similar enough to our Earth. But these... Realms? Like 8 separate planets connected with Stargates. There is no possibility here for some interesting interactions between kingdoms and races. Brainless, lazy writing, high fantasy discworld trope used over and over again. A far cry from the Old World's grounded logic and rules of the Universe. I hate it.
I don't get that. You can still have all that, you just have more room to do that more intriquatly and just MORE. How is there NO possibility for interesting interaction between kingdoms and races?! Hell, that's literally what à lot of the Battletomes focus on, the relationship between factions and how they fit in the realms.
Friend each of the reals is its own planet with different empires/kingdoms and republic just like the old world there are Orcs, goblins,beastmen and ruins from the old kingdoms destroyed during the age of chaos! Basically every realm is a new world that is ever expanding, basically an eternal conquest era! It's amazing.
I still feel like they should’ve left real warhammer alone and maybe actually worked on it rather than just throwing the baby out with the bath water because they wanted more money
Mynameis prior to AoS they weren’t doing too well sales wise from what I heard and AoS helped to drum up a bunch of interest in GW again. Since AoS release they’ve put out Killteam and other stuff because now they can.
@@GregPollard "... weren't doing too well sales wise..." Well that depends who you here this from. Second edition of AoS and general lore improvement did boosted the sales .
TheVergoner I heard it from GW employees, and I’m talking right around the inception of AoS. Now they have Kill Team and War Cry and so on anyway. Plus the Mortal Realms magazine series may bring in even more customers. Time will tell.
I'm really, REALLY, trying to get into AOS and this is perhaps my biggest hurdle is grasping the basic geography.
Why, why do you have such a small channel, bro, you are doing your thing from the heart, but you still have only 19k subscribers... Dont give up man, we need people like you. For me, you opened my eyes to AoS, and now I know it is a cool universe, thanks man for what you do
Good news is he's doubled that number in the last year, I just discovered him tonight and just subbed :)
Almost like Yggdrasil, the Norse tree of life that holds the realms together?
Ah a fellow Norse mythology nerd.
Bit late to the party but Norse nerds unite!
As a seraphon player realms really don’t matter to much, I just look around for artifacts I like :D
Great video as always, definitely fundamental information that is good to go over.
The one great take away from your vid was the analogy of "Lava." Such a great visual.
Some more realm weirdness for anyone who hasn’t researched yet, Hysh and Ulgu (don’t judge my spelling) which are the realms of light and shadow, orbit each other, similar to how you might think of a yin/yang symbol and that produces light and night for the realms. Also Azyr is like the North Star which can be seen above the other realms. These were difficult, abstract thoughts for me to grab onto but now I think it’s pretty cool.
As much fun as the idea of Disc worlds can be, the idea of spherical planets is really fantastic to me. The idea of Realmgates that would allow Steampunk/Arcanepunk armies to travel to other planets to do battle for power and resources just blows my mind. I understand if that's too sci-fi and treads too close to 40k. It's just so METAL!
How is that different than Aetherpunk ships going from disc to disc? It's literally the same except for the shape of the planet
You're a cool dude.
Aw, thank you :)
I'm interested to see what the upcoming Age of Sigmar roleplaying game does as far as Realm background and description - maybe they'll concentrate on a couple of areas initially and flesh them out more? Details on some of the big cities would be interesting.
Yea I've been watching that release closely for the same reason!!!
Thanks for this great and informative video.
You're so welcome!
I was having trouble grasping this concept so I appreciate this
Great video, man. You are genuinely pulling me into the lore. I appreciate what you do.
Agreed, maps are great ☺
Have you done the Thanquol video/s yet? Definitely one of my favourite characters. An awesome part of the Gotrek & Felix saga & being a character that spans old world & new, it would be awesome to see you do a run down of his history & lore.
Not yet but its on my to-do list!
This has been one of the biggest hurdles for me to overcome when talking AoS up to other wargamers. Everyone just glazes over when I try to explain what the realms are.
Just ordered the ride the lighting stormcast shirt man haha. That’s awesome, I hope you get a part of that proceed. Love the videos man. 🤜💥🤛
We need a role playing game set in the Realms. It would be amazing to see them realized and be able to explore them. Think Borderlands meets Elder Scrolls. Gimme Gimme.
Soulbound exists
As someone who's played Warhammer Fantasy for the past 23-odd years and is only just getting into Age of Sigmar, this was a great video thank you! Really helped me understand and visualise the realms, and got me thinking about what sort of world my Sylvaneth will live in.
That flat earth picture hurt my soul though, how do some people believe that about our world :'(
Really cool video! I love the idea of realms and you’ve explained them perfectly 👌
Have you done a video about how characters from the old world where able to suddenly reapear in the realms? like Gothrek for example or Manfred from Carstein?
Great video Doug, the realms are very big, also i like maps too
Are you going to do overviews of the realms; Ghyran, Hysh, Ulgu? if so any time frame? Also thank you for not only all of your work but, the quality.
I am! There’s an ulgu video coming out this week :)
@@2Tough thank you
I know its a little late but thanks for this - Last time I played table top WarHammer was 4th edition? Had an undead army, even a Nagash model. Now I dont get much time to play but knew they changed the game world to something called "Age of Sigmar" and wanted to know the general idea of it. Little sad the old world is gone but happy the bad ass lich king himself still has an army!
I really like the way you eplain. Thank you!
Have you done a review on the soul wars box? The starter one with the nighthaunt and stormcast? I was wondering what sort of models I should buy to upgrade the nighthaunt, loved your videos it's really helped me since I've come back to Warhammer after playing fantasy
Hey Ryan! Thank you so much for the kind words. I havent done anything like that yet, but its a great idea!
I play the Nighthaunt (but only casual games so don't expect any ultra-competitive advice from me). Assuming you already have the Soul Wars box, I'd advise upgrading to a full unit of Grimghast Reapers and then maybe try playing with some Bladegheist Revenants. Oh, and another unit of Chainrasps and a second Spirit Torment wouldn't go amiss. Plus, if you have the money, the Black Coach just looks awesome!
I've also converted up a Vampire Lord out of an Idoneth Deepkin Soulscryer, as an ally they're awesome as they can resurrect your ghosts automatically.
Can't wait for you to complete the rest of the Realm videos!
Interesting. I mostly read the wikis for warhammer fantasy lore, and have focused more on the old world when it comes to learning about. The realms is an interesting idea for the series, question though which I don't think you mentioned or perhaps have another video on, what happened to the old world to become the realms and was the old world within the realms like the worlds are currently, ergo was the world a disk before? What happened to the moons and such?
12:10 "I like maps!"
who doesn't? hahaha
how can daemons fit in this whole "coming from realm X" theme? even if they now can stay in the mortal realms, they essentially all come from the realm of chaos.
This is true, they ultimately originate from the realm of chaos. But the longer you stay in a realm, the more it effects you. So even a Daemon of khorne, spawned into Ulgu (realm of shadow) can see his skin turn dark, and begin to use the shadows as a weapon...over time of course.
@@2Tough Plus, the magic used to summon them will probably be of the realm they're summoned to, so maybe that informs their appearance somewhat?
The realms are formed from magic, and magic is inherently Chaotic, so maybe all realms are in the ‘Chaos Realm?’
Hey Doug, i have a sorta dumb question. For the book club the book for blacktalon isn't available on amazon until the end of this month. However, you said you would be reviewing it this month. Am I missing something?
huh... they must be re-releasing it... or switching from hardback to softback. The book has been out for a while and I've just been listening on Audible lol
What would happen if you looked up at night in a realm? Im assuming no stars? Just darkness?
I'm under the impression that, while other celestial bodies exist (like the Orb Infernia over in Aqshy), most realms see the stellar landscape of Azyr in the sky for the most part, with Azyr itself simply seeing... more of itself.
There are other stars in the sky, and in some stories characters can see the other realms..So its still a full night sky :)
@@2Tough oh cool, so that means there are other suns? And more realms?
@@MrIsitnotmate I always assumed its just comets and pockets of magic in void
With the book club can you add a section that is about the settings inside the books?
Great idea!
So Ghurrrrr is Australia
I want to see shadow elementals
What happened to the video for the realm of chaos?
So how do the factions interact with each other if they are in different realms? Is everyone just in their own continent and sometimes one faction tries to movie into another realm to conquer it?
Every faction is in every Realm and the realms are so vast that they don't have to come into conflict. For example: a Kharadon fleet can live a million kilomètres above à Daughters of Khaine temple who live on a coast of a sea within which swim Idoneth and they can all be completely unaware of each other
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 that helps bring it into perspective
I was also confused if a realm meant same planet, alternative space, different plant or a hell haven. E.g. million miles wide
Well it's literally shown what it's like in the core book
They made it more like d and d with the whole realms thing. And thats one reason i like whfrp better is because the world is based on the one we live in and they gave a decent explanation for why theres a parallel.
May I ask why you prefer that?
Is there anything in the other side of the disc?
Depends on which realms you're talking about. Shyish? Highly likely. Aghsy? It's mainly just lava
the realms in AOS have caused a lot of confusion to me. I played a bit of Total War Warhammer 2 (which i know is based on WH Fantasy), but Ive been confused as to why it is as realms and not the old world layout. Like it seems much more confusing for how the undead from shyish go to another realm or something like that rather than just having one large openly accessible map where armies can move about and fight eachother and take control of new territories in the same world why would undead make a settlement in another realm that doesnt really suit them and that is largely controlled / owned by another faction (from a newbie perspective)? It seems like it makes it more difficult to add lore to a battle as a new player (like in an AOS Path to Glory campaign). As a newer AOS player who knows about the old world and stuff it feels much more confusing.
Say I wanted to paint a globe with a map of the old world on it.....would it not work? If they're all discs?
Are they any that’s like frozen or ice related ?
Do you do more videos like this?
It's basically the whole channel.
Tristan Sewell about the factions I mean ones that are just about the realms in general.
@@BaileyBecca He has a video for each realm exploring them in detail.
Here is the playlist about the realms :)
ua-cam.com/video/BusmCkW-qHM/v-deo.html
I prefer the old world but this still cool
Sooooo after the end times all this is just happening in different reamls in the warp? So when the planet blew up and siggyboy and the dragon made the realms its not really a tangible thing. Like the realms of man are kindof on the same plane in the warp as the realm of chaos? Or are they pockets of shattered reality in a pocket dimension like comorragh. If a person wants to play fantasy roleplay in this setting is it even possible? It would be hard to play a chart based game if you have 8 map charts for 8 different realms. Moving around becomes logistically complicated if you don't want to break the fourth wall.
They aren't in the Warp. The warp is connected but they ain't in it. They are suspended within their own little void, like Commorragh.
Also the Core book has plenty of maps to show you what the realms are like and how to navigate them. Navigating is also rather easy as you still just need to make a line on a map. Sure, if you want to go from Island X in Chamon to city Y in Ghur you need to find the closest realm gate but that isn't that complicated at all unless you want it to be
I bet they'll go in the same direction as LOTR did, and turn all the realms from discworlds to spheres in order to make them larger and more complete.
How... How would they become bigger if they became Spheres? And how would they become more complete?
Also how would you do that with realms like Chamon?
So they're all disc worlds?
I think this whole infinitely expendeble thing is overrated. Sure you can do anything but everything looses significance pretty much. Because you can simply think of a new city if one gets destroyed. I like the idea of these realms though but id prefered them limited in size.
Thanks for this, it definitely helped. I would be interested in knowing the private thoughts of the BL authors regarding the entire transformation. I’m trying to give the lore a chance but haven’t found much to form a sentimental connection with. I’m honestly looking forward to the return of the Old World.
Absolutely!
The realms are roughly the size of the Old World. So my question is WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST KEEP THE OLD WORLD?!?!
You could have still had it, Sigmar could have still been a self-righteous short sighted beard boy who allowed Gorkamorka and Nagash to sit on his council (like the idiot he is), and still keep the Old World Continuity. Hell they brought back Gotrex (still waiting on Felix) to mock the new stuff.
Are you talking about Old World as continent that was called as The Old World or about a planet itself?
Because he said almost from the begining of the video ( 1:20 ) that these realm are way bigger to human mind to comprehend.
Also the reason GW went with Realms theme was that wanted to do the same thing as in 40k, where the galaxy is so big that you can easily add your own planet to set a campaign on and make your own custom space marine Chapter or Eldar craftworlds or whatever.
In Old World (the planet) you really can't do the same thing, world map being a slightly altered map of Earth.
That still doesn’t explain why they had to destroy the Old World. The core of the World that Was (Old World) is a hub for each realm. So destroy it. Make the gates at the North and South portals to the other realms. Easy peasy.
That is literelly exact reason why they destroyed the Old World. Phil Kelly even himself in one of the Stormcast Podcast kinda said the same thing that I said.
ua-cam.com/video/KS8xwZsrmoE/v-deo.html
First 6 minutes from the video, take a look if you want and/or if you got time.
Take a listening to it and judge yourself.
Anybody that ever played World of Warcraft should know what a realm is 😅
For me, the idea of the Realms is the worst trope in the Age of Sigmar. The Old World was familiar, yet with a solid amount of Fantasy. Dangerous continents from our World were even more nightmarish in the Warhammer version. Everyone shared the same planet and the rules were logical, it was similar enough to our Earth.
But these... Realms? Like 8 separate planets connected with Stargates. There is no possibility here for some interesting interactions between kingdoms and races. Brainless, lazy writing, high fantasy discworld trope used over and over again. A far cry from the Old World's grounded logic and rules of the Universe.
I hate it.
I don't get that. You can still have all that, you just have more room to do that more intriquatly and just MORE. How is there NO possibility for interesting interaction between kingdoms and races?! Hell, that's literally what à lot of the Battletomes focus on, the relationship between factions and how they fit in the realms.
Friend each of the reals is its own planet with different empires/kingdoms and republic just like the old world there are Orcs, goblins,beastmen and ruins from the old kingdoms destroyed during the age of chaos! Basically every realm is a new world that is ever expanding, basically an eternal conquest era! It's amazing.
I still feel like they should’ve left real warhammer alone and maybe actually worked on it rather than just throwing the baby out with the bath water because they wanted more money
Mynameis prior to AoS they weren’t doing too well sales wise from what I heard and AoS helped to drum up a bunch of interest in GW again.
Since AoS release they’ve put out Killteam and other stuff because now they can.
@@GregPollard "... weren't doing too well sales wise..."
Well that depends who you here this from. Second edition of AoS and general lore improvement did boosted the sales .
TheVergoner I heard it from GW employees, and I’m talking right around the inception of AoS.
Now they have Kill Team and War Cry and so on anyway.
Plus the Mortal Realms magazine series may bring in even more customers. Time will tell.
@@GregPollard Thank you for elaboration. 👍
This is real Warhammer.
So the realms are flat. Like the flat earth theory.... Ya lost me. 40k for life
That's a dumb reason to dislike it.