Easy to use right out the box ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAvrAfikbUEMthp3AZ6iX5FKdiHfzy_RP . Next step is to get a heat activated fan to move the heat. I'm impressed by how long it can go on 1 lbs of propane at the low setting which lasted more than 6hrs. You'll have to adjust it lower than the low setting. Used for personal heating at 30° to 50° at low setting in an open garage, it's quite comfortable. It would warm up a good size single car garage if its closed off.
This replaced an older wall unit that failed. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQDiHf0Cagl2e3YNPX-bWnDMXQAL2A2Y8 The grill on the front is nice, the old unit did not have one, just the glass. Much more kid/dog friendly. Best feature is the battery operated igniter..... old one had the plunger type, which was quirky. This one fires right up with just a touch of the button. Takes the chill off a room very quickly, seems to put out more heat that the one that was there, even though they were the same BTUs. Very impressed.... so much so I bought a second one to replace the other old one even though it still works!
Wish you would have said how you bled the line and showed you lighting the pilot. Skipped a crucial part. Off to find a video that show how to start the heater.
...also depends on hi/low/medium settings!!! On our cabinet heater two days on hi burning all day...on low all day and maybe alternating on medium setting on and offi for about three days fully filled from U-Haul...not the exchanging from Walmart, Home Depot, Lowe's or other places!!!
Sorry I didnt....I used a hammer for a little initial loosening...some light grinding if you really wanna make it easy. Use a file to clean up any left over burrs.
Thank you, when the hammer thing didn't work out well (LOL) I used a screwdriver, a hammer, and a pair of Chanel Locks It finally let go. Thanks for the video and the quick response time 👍
Had one for 4 or 5 years, does it's job very well. Remember, when cleaning. Take a can of compressed air, spray inside of pilot light to keep dust off the oxygen sensor or if your pilot light won't stay lit. Happens on all ventless wall heaters, good unit. Electricity goes out, still have heat.
use an eco fan instead no electric needed , just put fan up on a concrete block in front of the heater and it blows out air for free .I have a dyno glo one of these
Just wanted to thank everyone involved, Answers questions etc. I have a woman that is like my sister With NO HEAT in her attic apartment. With this unit I was able to get it to 70 all day… No issues.
@@amealnet2495 when my brother is home he keeps the heat at 65 to 68 degrees. We filled it on December 5th. And today is Jan 17th and it’s still on the same tank. I guess usage may vary.
I had these in the ga mts attached to the wall and a 500 pd outside propane tank, they work awesome, so bought one for my fla home since this winter is so cold, I use 20 pd tanks, bought the regulator at home depot for 8 bucks, bought the fitting at lowes for 3 bucks, and the blower on amazon for 25 bucks, saved me a ton of cash by doing it this way shopping around and NOT buying a mr heater regulator, mine is 1 psi and works fine, bought the teflon tape at roses store for a buck. I had the dually tank top heaters before this and it smelled horrible like propane, no smell from this unit, plus this unit has the CO2 detector safety shut off. Thanks for the video, great job, best one on utube.
i heat my 14x70 trailer with this heater. i live in indiana we have cold winters. dont care how cold it gets. turn setting to #2 and will stay around 70 all winter long. PS costs us around $600 to heat for the entire winter
It's going to cost more this Winter, thanks in part to "Brandon." Had my 120 gallon propane tank filled last week, and it was close to double the cost of last year's fill... TRUMP 2024
I found that turning my garage ceiling fan on low/medium circulates the warm air back down, before the heat would rise and the warmness would be close to the ceiling.
Yeah the ceiling fan is a must with high ceilings! The ceiling fans have a switch to rotate forward or backwards, depending on the season. Forward for summer or cooling and backwards for winter to draw the heat up and then down the walls.
Very cold in my house right now when and purchase the heater and has a plug that's metal and I have no idea how to get it out can someone help me please
They don't recommend it because of hazard from a bad tank or the heat source being next to the tank but I did it until I did the final hookup to an outside 500 gallon tank. I did a final install video also. Thanks for watching!
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to help others. I just bought this same unit today. Is the blower fan worth installing? My old dyna-glo unit has a fan but seemed almost pointless.
Thank you for the kind words! Honestly I have had alot of people tell me they felt the fan was pointless. I can't say it moves alot of air, im sure it moves some. Maybe if someone did a test with a thermal image camera to see if it actually moves the air. I honestly kept the ceiling fan on to keep the air circulating. Im sure it helps a little but not a big noticeable difference. Thanks again!
@@jaradsimpson7669 in that workshop, I found the ceiling fan a necessity because with 12 ft ceilings I definitely needed to push the heat back down to the floor. Thanks again!
I just moved into a single wide with one of these and just watched the end of your video because i didnt know how to get it going. How much gas does it use with a 250lbs propane tank? And thanks for this video, i about flipped out trying to start it
Yeah priming the line the first go around is a little difficult. I did a second follow up video where I hooked it to a 500 gallon tank. I ended up selling this house and workshop and wasn't in the workshop a whole season with this heater. It seemed pretty fuel efficient once I attached it to the larger tank. Let me know if you have other questions! Thanks for watching!
I bought a similar one from dyna glo. Ended up getting a 100lbs propane tank because it suggested it. Wish I'd known I could run it on 20lbs or anything less than 100lbs.
I was all set to buy one of this, but you mentioned that the propane tank inside is only for a temp solution. My only purpose was to use this for power outage. would this be an exception to the line hookup or is the propane tank inside not recommended at all?
Hello Jane! When I stated the line is only for a temporary solution with the tank inside, that is me stating what the company has on the side of the packaging. I used this setup for months before I finally got it hardlined through the wall to the outside propane tank. I even left the plastic feet they give you for the unit sitting next to it on the wall in case of a power outage and I needed to disconnect it and use it inside the house. I have personally watched quite a few videos of people running these in their homes. Hope that answers your question! Feel free to ask if you think of something else!
I just bought two of these for emergency outages , my plan is to set them up next to windows so i can run the hose out the window to a propane tank sitting next to my garbage cans on one side of my house , and i have a rubbermaid shed on the other side for the other propane tank. Then i will use towels , duct tape and plastic to reinsulate the windows once the hoses are run. (and i also bought a "big buddy" portable heater in case there are cold spots in the house that i need to deal with)
@@HermanWoodworks Some people are saying the supply chain catastrophe will cause America to start running out of natural gas around february , interrupting home heating and causing power blackouts as the power plants run out of fuel. I could deal with losing heat or i could deal with losing power , but losing both at the same time in the middle of a Minnesota winter might have proven to be a serious problem. So i spent $200 each for 2 vent free heaters , $150 for the big buddy , $150 on hoses and regulators and im about to go spend another $300 on more propane tanks for a final tab of $1000, which sounds like alot , until you start adding up how much it would cost me if all my pipes burst ,, then $1000 sounds like a hell of a good deal .
@@Cyberhacker3 wow, I hope it doesn't get that bad, but glad to hear your on top of the situation especially up in Minnesota. Ohio gets cold but I won't even pretend it's close to Minnesota cold. Stay warm!
Very nice video and heater I was thinking about getting 1 like that or the one with the blue flame there all great heaters I do have rite now 2 mr heater big buddy heaters both brand new 1 with a 3 speed fan I bought from tractor Supply and the. First one I bought from Ebay brand new in original packaging they had 31 more new. Ones but I'm trying the. One without the fan first then the one with the fan to. See the difference I no the. Fan makes a big difference 3 speeds I'd keep it on low speed Itll circulate the heat better on hi itll cool off the heat
Thank you! This unit you can but the fan additionally and install it. The fan itself is single speed. One of the main comments people make is the fan does very little or nothing. I felt like it helped but I won't claim it was drastically different. Thanks again!
Good video. I must have watched a million of these videos and not found the part where you put an AAA battery under the ignitor button, so I had a lot of hunting to do, since I couldn't find anything about that battery in my manual.
I have the exact same model, it came with the mobile home on my vacation property. I just fired it up for the first time today. It needs to be cleaned, which I will do tomorrow. I found the manual online (the internet is wonderful). No issues with Oxygen, that home isn't air tight LOL but I'm working on it room by room. I'll also get a secondary minoxide detector to be super safe. It's being fed off a 120 pounder the previous owner bought outright. Thanks for the video, especially the blower kit info.
Hoping to start using a old kozyworld unit have no clue what it takes yet but hopefully i can just buy a kit similar to what you did and hook a p tank up to it..thanks for the content.
Howdy and thanks for watching! Mostly, the insurance companies would frown upon the heater and the fuel source sitting next to each other. I'm not saying you can't, I've heard enough stories of people using it all the time indoors....but for overall safety and staying good in the insurance companies eyes, better to do a permanent hookup. I did a follow up final hookup video also. Let me know if you have other questions! Thanks again!
Great video man just would have been a lot nicer if you would have spent more time going over what size the connector is on the bottom of the heater because I bought an extension for my propane tank and it doesn't fit
Sorry about that! I did a second video where I did the final hardline hookup to a 500 lb tank. Maybe that will be a little more help. If not, I used the diagram in the manual which I believe labeled the sizes. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!
I read online these shouldn't be ran 24/7 (if you're asleep or not home) yet a plumber is saying its fine as long as you use a thermostat? Anyone care to chime in?
Personally, I never let it run when I wasn't at home. It's a nice heater but I myself wouldn't feel comfortable leaving it unattended for a day. I'm not saying it can't be done but that's my personal choice. I don't feel like I would trust any heater beside a home furnace.
I have this beast and it heats up my 30 feet cargo trailer within 10 minutes about 89 degrees in only # 2 on the dial knob with a temperature outside in the 40s.
appreciate the breakdown didn't know what I had till I watched. Helped to troubleshoot a pre-existing unit, now it works great. Heats the whole gym/ office space like a dream.
I think it is assembled in Cleveland but I think they stamp the steel in China. Not 100 percent sure...they change where they build everything so often.
For me, any unvented heater be it propane or kerosene is scary. They burn up the oxygen in the room and give off water vapor. Soon your walls start going black and growing mold. They make vented units that go thru the wall and do not require a chimney.
@@sammoore3349 I used a tape for the part that goes into the heater and then stuff from a can on the parts that connected to the line. And thank you I wrenched it down.
You probably could for short times but me personally, would only run it while I was home. It has a sensor if there is low oxygen I believe but didn't want to test that. I did a second follow up video where I did the final hookup to a 500 gallon outside tank. Let me know if you have other questions. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! I also did a follow up video where I did the final installation to a 500 gallon tank outside. Maybe that will help also! Thanks again for watching!
Thanks for watching! I also did a follow up video where I did the final installation to a 500 gallon outdoor tank. Let me know if you have any questions!
The only hold up for having it be actually piped through the wall permanently is myself...I'm not 100 percent confident in plumbing the lines myself and for insurance purposes I waited for a professional to do it. I know i could run the lines but the negative side in my brain just worries that if something happens, God forbid, the insurance company won't payout for it....I know I'm over thinking it but ultimately that has been my only hold up. Sorry for the long explanation!
That makes total sense I never thought of natural gas or propane to be experimented with. How much would it be for the bigger tank and install of the natural gas lines ballpark. I bought the same setup and would be nice to not have to worry about changing tanks and the safety aspect of having the propane in the garage thanks for the responses.
I'm in Northeast Ohio and the propane company i have set the 500 lb tank and are installing the line to the workshop and house for under 300 bucks but that is also based on me using a certain amount every year. Propane contracts need to be read carefully...
I hear the blower don't do a whole lot for these units.I have the same heater and it does a really good job without it.The only complaint I have is the cracking sound it makes when igniting.Is very annoying!
I feel the fan does respectable for the price tag over the long term. I personally feel I need to install a ceiling fan to keep pushing the heat back down with my 12 ft ceilings. Yes I does make a random sound now and again especially if it is cycling on and off.
This model requires a low setting which ends up being the additional filter to really bring the pressure down. The packaging states it is a temporary kit, I'm sure mostly for legality purposes with local code requirements probably needing the tanks outside and with hardlined propane piping feeding in.
@@HermanWoodworks im looking to heat up a 2 car garage only for an hour or 2 a day for a few months. it would be on for 2 hours max. do you think that setup would be ok
Are you going to be in the garage with it? The price point is good....if your only running it that little the temp hose kit might be fine for you long term....
@@HermanWoodworks yes i plan on heating up the space for 15-30 minutes before working out in my garage. total run time would be 2 hours max, i could see myself shutting it off after an hour
Yeah pretty much any other type of fuel style heater would be too smelly unless you get something quite a bit more costly. I mean the heater and fan were about 230 u.s dollars and 40ish for the hose kit and then whatever size tank you end up wanting...
@ericgahagan3800 I did a steel line through the wall to a 500 gallon outdoor tank. I bought a flexible line from the unit to the wall line. I did a final hookup video also that goes over all of it. Thanks for watching!
I have 1 in my 2 car garage running on a propane tank. The fan on it is a joke. Doesn't heat my garage like I wish. I would need like 3 to make it comfortable. I always have to fire up.my torpedo heater first to make it nice. Then turn on the mr heater to kinda maintain a temp. but my garage will will.still be chilly
A pound of propane contains 21,548 Btu's. A 20 pound tank contains 430,960 Btu's of energy. Producing maximum heat at 30,000 Btu's per hour a tank would last 14 hours and 20 minutes.
For the cost of that heater an to fill the tank you be better off looking into a mini split unit they cool an heat an depending on what size your garage is would mean the size of the unit an it would pay for its self in the long run
I found mine at my local Tractor supply company, they were also the one that sold me the heater. But I also put a link in one of the comments for the hose assembly on amazon. Let me know if you need it again.
OK this may just be a minor complaint and please someone actually correct me if I am wrong on this but here’s the confusion smaller tanks are rated by pounds a.k.a. 20 pound tank 40 pound tank 100 pound tank I think anything over a 100 pound tank that is a stationary tank that cannot simply be picked up in more and moved easily Hass to be moved by machine is then rated in gallons me and my wife have a 120 gallon tank right outside her house then from my understanding you can get a 250 pound gallon say I did it too 250 gallon tank a 500 gallon tank and I think someone makes an in 1000 gallon tank but that’s still the point I think after a 100 pound tank everything is rated in gallons after that
It is odd and I'm sure someone will have a better explanation than myself. I did a second video where I did a final installation to a 500 gallon tank outside. Maybe that will help with any questions. Thanks for watching!
@Herman Woodworks I just bought this unit for the fact it can hook up to natural gas or propane. I have natural gas ran out to my 2 & 1/2 car garage, but my shop is currently set up on the opposite side where the gas line comes in. So, until I can find a full week off to rearrange opposite sides of the garage, using this unit as propane in the meantime then being able to convert it back to natural gas sounds like a winner to me. So, I appreciate your video as I'm on my way to ACE hardware for the parts I need for temporarily using propane.
I have this same model, my problem with this is that when i turn the dial it will only light all the cells. Setting it to one 2 or 3 doesnt do anything till i turn it to max then it all lights, but it could be an issue with pressure?!, its supposed to run on a 250lb propane tank. I had hooked it up to a 10 gallon barbicue tank
The initial hookup i had on this before it got hardlined was a hose kit that was meant for 20 lb up to 100lb tanks....the next video I did it got hardlined to a 500 lb tank. I specified to the propane company which heater I was running so the regulator matched the required specs.
I may get one of those for my off grid cabin my fire place burns the wood fast but it heats the house up good but every 2to3 hours at night you have to get up and put more wood in it not a good nights sleep lol
The unit comes with a 1-5 setting for comfort level. You could set it real low so it just kicks on when the temperature drops after the fire has burnt down. I have a friend that throws a little lump coal in the fireplace to keep the fire burning a little longer. Haven't tried it myself though. I also did a final installation video attaching it to a 500 gallon tank outside. Thanks for watching!
I don’t understand I bought a Mr heater. It ran a whole tank of propane out in about 10-19 hours. That’s a tank of propane a day. What am I doing wrong??
What is your square footage and which setting do you have it on? I would only run it on 1 usually and shut it down when I wasn't in the shop. The insulation held the heat well.
So while they call it ventless, I crack a door from time to time to keep fresh air coming in. I do make mental note of running dust collection and air filtration units especially while sanding. I cut the heat off if I'm doing alot of sanding.
I ran this setup in my house last winter because the hvac never got installed before winter. It worked great and never killed anyone. Haha I had a carbon monoxide detector close by and more in other rooms. They never went off. Ran it literally all winter long in zero temps. Best investment for backup heat I’ve ever had.
Propane does not produce carbon monoxide. So you’re safe there. Oxygen depletion is the concern. Most units like this have a shutoff if oxygen is depleted. Empire heaters are ventless and have auto shutoff.
@@thomasmiller9770 If the heater is malfunctioning in some way to cause incomplete combustion, then it WILL produce carbon monoxide. A perfectly functioning propane heater will not produce it, sure, but it's better to have a carbon monoxide detector incase of a malfunctioning heater.
Hmmmm...just spent 5min goin thru ur list of vids...cant seem to find the UPDATE to this one ya said ya would do...did I miss something..❓did ya just leave it hooked up inside to the 20# tank for the last 7months?
Hello! My apologies! I did leave that one hanging. Let me whip together a video going over what I ended up doing! Hope it helps! I'll try to get it loaded by tomorrow! Take care and thanks for watching!
I have one of these but it is for Natural Gas. I have to run a 70 feet hose from the gas hookup to the shop, Do I have to install a valve at the other end? Does natural gas provide the correct pressure at 70 feet? Any input would be great. Thanks!
Talk to your gas provider about their requirements and I think they may even do the final hookup so they can pressure test it and assure they put on or provide the correct regulator. The propane company i used did that for me. I just had to run the line through the wall. Hope that helps.
So this may be a very stupid question but i cant seem to find an answer. I am needing an emergency heating source in case of power outages and was wondering, is using a propane tank indoors with sensors a viable option or would this not end well?
Not a stupid question...but it's kind of a complicated answer. For insurance purposes and total safety, the answer is no. But if you read through some comments on here or watch some other videos, lots of people use this heater indoors, including the tank. I used it indoors for a short while to heat this workshop. I did a follow up video with the final installation to a 500 gallon tank. It says ventless but there will be some smell and fumes. Crack a window or open and shut a door from time to time. I know its a round about answer but really it comes down to what you personally are ok with. I've watch people run kerosene heaters indoors and they are crazy fume producers. Let me know if you have any other questions.
what is the hose you got . I need a longer one for mine . . I know it needs a regulator but i want to put on propane tank gage that shows how full the tank is . I am just hooking it up to a20 lb tank for now also
Easy to use right out the box ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxAvrAfikbUEMthp3AZ6iX5FKdiHfzy_RP . Next step is to get a heat activated fan to move the heat. I'm impressed by how long it can go on 1 lbs of propane at the low setting which lasted more than 6hrs. You'll have to adjust it lower than the low setting. Used for personal heating at 30° to 50° at low setting in an open garage, it's quite comfortable. It would warm up a good size single car garage if its closed off.
This replaced an older wall unit that failed. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQDiHf0Cagl2e3YNPX-bWnDMXQAL2A2Y8 The grill on the front is nice, the old unit did not have one, just the glass. Much more kid/dog friendly. Best feature is the battery operated igniter..... old one had the plunger type, which was quirky. This one fires right up with just a touch of the button. Takes the chill off a room very quickly, seems to put out more heat that the one that was there, even though they were the same BTUs. Very impressed.... so much so I bought a second one to replace the other old one even though it still works!
Oh wow, you skipped thru the entire section of the blower, not cool. I needed to see that no matter how simple it was.
Wish you would have said how you bled the line and showed you lighting the pilot. Skipped a crucial part. Off to find a video that show how to start the heater.
Turn the knob to pilot, hold down for 30 seconds then press ignite button at the same time.
How long do that 20 pound tank last you?
Depends on temperature 24hrs??
A 20 pound tank will last approximately 14.4 hours.
...also depends on hi/low/medium settings!!! On our cabinet heater two days on hi burning all day...on low all day and maybe alternating on medium setting on and offi for about three days fully filled from U-Haul...not the exchanging from Walmart, Home Depot, Lowe's or other places!!!
$12
No one shows how to knock-out the blower plate, it's there one min and then it's gone.
Do I just smack it with a hammer?
Maybe?
Ok here we go......
Sorry I didnt....I used a hammer for a little initial loosening...some light grinding if you really wanna make it easy. Use a file to clean up any left over burrs.
Thank you, when the hammer thing didn't work out well (LOL) I used a screwdriver, a hammer, and a pair of Chanel Locks
It finally let go.
Thanks for the video and the quick response time 👍
@@rickdougherty1519 Yeah it is stubborn at first but once you break one corner it kinda twists out easier.
Had one for 4 or 5 years, does it's job very well. Remember, when cleaning. Take a can of compressed air, spray inside of pilot light to keep dust off the oxygen sensor or if your pilot light won't stay lit. Happens on all ventless wall heaters, good unit.
Electricity goes out, still have heat.
Awesome to hear! Thanks for the maintenance advice, always appreciated!
@@HermanWoodworks mines gonna be for my 2 car garage in Michigan for the winter half of my garage is my home gym
Think the one I’m gonna buy has a built in fan
You need to "PIN" this comment... so EVERYONE will know this!!
Keep in mind that compressed air is highly flammable
use an eco fan instead no electric needed , just put fan up on a concrete block in front of the heater and it blows out air for free .I have a dyno glo one of these
thanks for showing where the battery goes, couldn't find it.
If your house is airtight watch out they pump out a lot of moisture and you know that's not good for living environment
Yeah I watch it even in my workshop, the moisture and alot of raw steel woodworking tools can be bad if you run it too much.
yes
Makes me feel so glad I live in a 1916 home... Kinda! 😁
Got a nice breeze in those kitchen cupboards.
Just wanted to thank everyone involved, Answers questions etc. I have a woman that is like my sister With NO HEAT in her attic apartment. With this unit I was able to get it to 70 all day… No issues.
How long does a 20lb tank last?
@@amealnet2495 when my brother is home he keeps the heat at 65 to 68 degrees. We filled it on December 5th. And today is Jan 17th and it’s still on the same tank. I guess usage may vary.
@@amealnet2495 A 20 pound tank will last approximately 14.4 hours.
I had these in the ga mts attached to the wall and a 500 pd outside propane tank, they work awesome, so bought one for my fla home since this winter is so cold, I use 20 pd tanks, bought the regulator at home depot for 8 bucks, bought the fitting at lowes for 3 bucks, and the blower on amazon for 25 bucks, saved me a ton of cash by doing it this way shopping around and NOT buying a mr heater regulator, mine is 1 psi and works fine, bought the teflon tape at roses store for a buck. I had the dually tank top heaters before this and it smelled horrible like propane, no smell from this unit, plus this unit has the CO2 detector safety shut off. Thanks for the video, great job, best one on utube.
Thank you, I appreciate it! I did a follow up video where I attached it to a 500 lb tank also!
Although propane alot higher this year there still cheaper to run than gas or electric
We just got one i am a little nervous. But i got a monoxide detector we are using a medium propane tank. I pray everything will be ok
Sorry, can't take advice from someone who has pierced ears...
Do they make you feel pretty....
i heat my 14x70 trailer with this heater. i live in indiana we have cold winters. dont care how cold it gets. turn setting to #2 and will stay around 70 all winter long. PS costs us around $600 to heat for the entire winter
Great isn't it! Heating a 1200 sq foot ranch home in North central Ohio for 2yr and hopefully this winter if we survive the BS coming....
It's going to cost more this Winter, thanks in part to "Brandon." Had my 120 gallon propane tank filled last week, and it was close to double the cost of last year's fill... TRUMP 2024
@@bobhoffman5581 I know its crazy grrr
I'm looking to add something so my furnace doesn't run constantly. Is this a good alternative for less
@@ejg34 yes cant say enough about these heaters. I do sugest getting the radiant kind though. The heat comes straight out unstead of straight up
Tractor Supply has them for $209 with a free blower ($35 value)
Thats where I bought mine years ago. Does the fan come pre-installed? Thanks for the heads up!
own 2 they work great ALSO THEY WORK ON NATURAL GAS AS WELL =SWITCH ON BACK OF HEATER !!!
You should place the tank on a scale and run it full blast for an hour to see how much fuel you can expect to use a day.
Don’t use propane bottles indoors. Very dangerous. I’ve worked in gas business for 6 years
I found that turning my garage ceiling fan on low/medium circulates the warm air back down, before the heat would rise and the warmness would be close to the ceiling.
Yeah the ceiling fan is a must with high ceilings! The ceiling fans have a switch to rotate forward or backwards, depending on the season. Forward for summer or cooling and backwards for winter to draw the heat up and then down the walls.
Best install video I've found on this heater, (and I've watched several 🤪) Thank You.
@wildadventures4173 thanks! I appreciate it!
I probably would have made my spacers on the bottom by using a single strip of wood the same thickness of the spacers for the heater to lean against
Very cold in my house right now when and purchase the heater and has a plug that's metal and I have no idea how to get it out can someone help me please
Sir do you have a purchase link for that temporary hose connection?
Or what size hose fitting threads to the heater inlet elbow?
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How long did it run on a 20 lb tank when you had it hooked up
A 20 pound tank will last approximately 14.4 hours.
Please put a LINK so we can "CLICK" on it... so we can buy it...
YOU should get a % off the sell... Great Video.
I love mine, it does not have the 1-5, only Low, Med, High... it will flat out run you out of my small garage.
Is it safe to use a 20lb propane tank indoors?
They don't recommend it because of hazard from a bad tank or the heat source being next to the tank but I did it until I did the final hookup to an outside 500 gallon tank. I did a final install video also. Thanks for watching!
Blower motor seems like it's too weak don't feel much air
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to help others. I just bought this same unit today. Is the blower fan worth installing? My old dyna-glo unit has a fan but seemed almost pointless.
Thank you for the kind words! Honestly I have had alot of people tell me they felt the fan was pointless. I can't say it moves alot of air, im sure it moves some. Maybe if someone did a test with a thermal image camera to see if it actually moves the air. I honestly kept the ceiling fan on to keep the air circulating. Im sure it helps a little but not a big noticeable difference. Thanks again!
I may consider a ceiling fan. Thanks for the quick response!
@@jaradsimpson7669 in that workshop, I found the ceiling fan a necessity because with 12 ft ceilings I definitely needed to push the heat back down to the floor. Thanks again!
I just moved into a single wide with one of these and just watched the end of your video because i didnt know how to get it going. How much gas does it use with a 250lbs propane tank? And thanks for this video, i about flipped out trying to start it
Yeah priming the line the first go around is a little difficult. I did a second follow up video where I hooked it to a 500 gallon tank. I ended up selling this house and workshop and wasn't in the workshop a whole season with this heater. It seemed pretty fuel efficient once I attached it to the larger tank. Let me know if you have other questions! Thanks for watching!
How about a step by step instruction for idiots like me
I bought a similar one from dyna glo. Ended up getting a 100lbs propane tank because it suggested it. Wish I'd known I could run it on 20lbs or anything less than 100lbs.
If you're using it to stay warm during a power outage in Winter, you're going to want a 100# tank...
yo i just copped the dynaglo heater that says i have to use a 100lb tank minimum…
can i get away with using a 20lb tank temporarily ??
It probably uses the same pressure so I'd say yes
I was all set to buy one of this, but you mentioned that the propane tank inside is only for a temp solution. My only purpose was to use this for power outage. would this be an exception to the line hookup or is the propane tank inside not recommended at all?
Hello Jane! When I stated the line is only for a temporary solution with the tank inside, that is me stating what the company has on the side of the packaging. I used this setup for months before I finally got it hardlined through the wall to the outside propane tank. I even left the plastic feet they give you for the unit sitting next to it on the wall in case of a power outage and I needed to disconnect it and use it inside the house. I have personally watched quite a few videos of people running these in their homes. Hope that answers your question! Feel free to ask if you think of something else!
I just bought two of these for emergency outages , my plan is to set them up next to windows so i can run the hose out the window to a propane tank sitting next to my garbage cans on one side of my house , and i have a rubbermaid shed on the other side for the other propane tank.
Then i will use towels , duct tape and plastic to reinsulate the windows once the hoses are run. (and i also bought a "big buddy" portable heater in case there are cold spots in the house that i need to deal with)
@@Cyberhacker3 I've heard of alot of people picking these up for emergency situations. Sounds like you have it all planned out! Nice!
@@HermanWoodworks Some people are saying the supply chain catastrophe will cause America to start running out of natural gas around february , interrupting home heating and causing power blackouts as the power plants run out of fuel.
I could deal with losing heat or i could deal with losing power , but losing both at the same time in the middle of a Minnesota winter might have proven to be a serious problem.
So i spent $200 each for 2 vent free heaters , $150 for the big buddy , $150 on hoses and regulators and im about to go spend another $300 on more propane tanks for a final tab of $1000, which sounds like alot , until you start adding up how much it would cost me if all my pipes burst ,, then $1000 sounds like a hell of a good deal .
@@Cyberhacker3 wow, I hope it doesn't get that bad, but glad to hear your on top of the situation especially up in Minnesota. Ohio gets cold but I won't even pretend it's close to Minnesota cold. Stay warm!
Very nice video and heater I was thinking about getting 1 like that or the one with the blue flame there all great heaters I do have rite now 2 mr heater big buddy heaters both brand new 1 with a 3 speed fan I bought from tractor Supply and the. First one I bought from Ebay brand new in original packaging they had 31 more new. Ones but I'm trying the. One without the fan first then the one with the fan to. See the difference I no the. Fan makes a big difference 3 speeds I'd keep it on low speed Itll circulate the heat better on hi itll cool off the heat
Thank you! This unit you can but the fan additionally and install it. The fan itself is single speed. One of the main comments people make is the fan does very little or nothing. I felt like it helped but I won't claim it was drastically different. Thanks again!
Good video. I must have watched a million of these videos and not found the part where you put an AAA battery under the ignitor button, so I had a lot of hunting to do, since I couldn't find anything about that battery in my manual.
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I also added a top handle to move it from 1 location to the next w 12 feet propane hose
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What's the square footage of your shop. I have a 1k sqft area above my garage and I am thinking of turning it into my man cave. Great video.
The shop i had during this video was just under 800 sq. ft.. It was 28x28 with 12 ft ceilings. Thanks!
I have the exact same model, it came with the mobile home on my vacation property. I just fired it up for the first time today. It needs to be cleaned, which I will do tomorrow. I found the manual online (the internet is wonderful). No issues with Oxygen, that home isn't air tight LOL but I'm working on it room by room. I'll also get a secondary minoxide detector to be super safe. It's being fed off a 120 pounder the previous owner bought outright. Thanks for the video, especially the blower kit info.
Thanks and good luck with the vacation property!
@@HermanWoodworks Thanks! I cleaned it today, nice blue flame!
Hoping to start using a old kozyworld unit have no clue what it takes yet but hopefully i can just buy a kit similar to what you did and hook a p tank up to it..thanks for the content.
Thanks for watching! Let me know if you have any questions!
How much does it cost a month to keep your 500lb tank filled when using this in winter time. I'm assuming you'll run it alot more with the bigger tank
A 500 lb tank costs about $1200 and will last all winter for both heat and cooking in Fairbanks Alaska. In a 900 sq foot leaky old home
quick question here, I’m going with the same set up.. why can it only be temporary?
Howdy and thanks for watching! Mostly, the insurance companies would frown upon the heater and the fuel source sitting next to each other. I'm not saying you can't, I've heard enough stories of people using it all the time indoors....but for overall safety and staying good in the insurance companies eyes, better to do a permanent hookup. I did a follow up final hookup video also. Let me know if you have other questions! Thanks again!
Great video man just would have been a lot nicer if you would have spent more time going over what size the connector is on the bottom of the heater because I bought an extension for my propane tank and it doesn't fit
Sorry about that! I did a second video where I did the final hardline hookup to a 500 lb tank. Maybe that will be a little more help. If not, I used the diagram in the manual which I believe labeled the sizes. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!
I read online these shouldn't be ran 24/7 (if you're asleep or not home) yet a plumber is saying its fine as long as you use a thermostat? Anyone care to chime in?
Personally, I never let it run when I wasn't at home. It's a nice heater but I myself wouldn't feel comfortable leaving it unattended for a day. I'm not saying it can't be done but that's my personal choice. I don't feel like I would trust any heater beside a home furnace.
Provides great heat in a cold sewing room!
I was annoyed as hell coulnt find a battery until this video
I have actually heard this quite a few times. I'm glad this detail helped some people! Thanks for watching!
BLOWER IS A WASTE OF MONEY !!!!!
I have this beast and it heats up my 30 feet cargo trailer within 10 minutes about 89 degrees in only # 2 on the dial knob with a temperature outside in the 40s.
appreciate the breakdown didn't know what I had till I watched. Helped to troubleshoot a pre-existing unit, now it works great. Heats the whole gym/ office space like a dream.
Awesome! Thanks for watching! I also did a second video on the final installation. I hooked it up to a outside 500lb tank. Glad it helped!
Can't get mine to light. Brand new battery, hose, propane tank and valve.
Sorry for not responding sooner. Did you bleed off the line to remove air?
Did you use the tape on both both ends of the line? (Into unit and on tank?)
I believe I did. Depending on the unit they may specify otherwise.
MADE in the USA... YEA!!!!
I think it is assembled in Cleveland but I think they stamp the steel in China. Not 100 percent sure...they change where they build everything so often.
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LOL... Will... HALF of "Yea"
For me, any unvented heater be it propane or kerosene is scary. They burn up the oxygen in the room and give off water vapor. Soon your walls start going black and growing mold. They make vented units that go thru the wall and do not require a chimney.
I've had 2 of these for over 5 years and none of this has happened. They are very oxygen sensitive. Love the radiant heat
Wish you would have shown you hooking the lines up. Is hand tightening them ok, or should you use a wrench. Anyone?
Use a wrench. Soap and water solution after to check for any leaks. Use thread dope as well.
@@sammoore3349 I used a tape for the part that goes into the heater and then stuff from a can on the parts that connected to the line. And thank you I wrenched it down.
Agree with Sam, I believe it was just a Cresent wrench and yellow gas specific thread tape.
@@cartersboxerandbulldogbabies in the can - pipe dope?
"Thumbs UP" people!
Can you leave this running while away from home?
You probably could for short times but me personally, would only run it while I was home. It has a sensor if there is low oxygen I believe but didn't want to test that. I did a second follow up video where I did the final hookup to a 500 gallon outside tank. Let me know if you have other questions. Thanks for watching!
Just about to buy that same one. Thank you very much. You made it look so easy
Thank you! I also did a follow up video where I did the final installation to a 500 gallon tank outside. Maybe that will help also! Thanks again for watching!
Thanks bro. You're a lifesaver
Thanks for watching! I also did a follow up video where I did the final installation to a 500 gallon outdoor tank. Let me know if you have any questions!
Why isn't this a permanent setup with the tank and line. What is there a concern with the setup thanks.
The only hold up for having it be actually piped through the wall permanently is myself...I'm not 100 percent confident in plumbing the lines myself and for insurance purposes I waited for a professional to do it. I know i could run the lines but the negative side in my brain just worries that if something happens, God forbid, the insurance company won't payout for it....I know I'm over thinking it but ultimately that has been my only hold up. Sorry for the long explanation!
Because he doesn't want to have to change the tank every 3-5 days. Hardline pulls from a larger tank, less refills???? My guess.
Truth....also I'm pretty sure insurance companies would have a problem with it...
That makes total sense I never thought of natural gas or propane to be experimented with. How much would it be for the bigger tank and install of the natural gas lines ballpark. I bought the same setup and would be nice to not have to worry about changing tanks and the safety aspect of having the propane in the garage thanks for the responses.
I'm in Northeast Ohio and the propane company i have set the 500 lb tank and are installing the line to the workshop and house for under 300 bucks but that is also based on me using a certain amount every year. Propane contracts need to be read carefully...
I have 2 of these in the radiant heat model and love them
Keep a spare thermocouple unit on hand
I've had a couple of long time users mention that to me, thanks!
I hear the blower don't do a whole lot for these units.I have the same heater and it does a really good job without it.The only complaint I have is the cracking sound it makes when igniting.Is very annoying!
I feel the fan does respectable for the price tag over the long term. I personally feel I need to install a ceiling fan to keep pushing the heat back down with my 12 ft ceilings. Yes I does make a random sound now and again especially if it is cycling on and off.
is that hose kit necessary for the pressure? also why are those tubes only temporary?
This model requires a low setting which ends up being the additional filter to really bring the pressure down. The packaging states it is a temporary kit, I'm sure mostly for legality purposes with local code requirements probably needing the tanks outside and with hardlined propane piping feeding in.
@@HermanWoodworks im looking to heat up a 2 car garage only for an hour or 2 a day for a few months. it would be on for 2 hours max. do you think that setup would be ok
Are you going to be in the garage with it? The price point is good....if your only running it that little the temp hose kit might be fine for you long term....
@@HermanWoodworks yes i plan on heating up the space for 15-30 minutes before working out in my garage. total run time would be 2 hours max, i could see myself shutting it off after an hour
Yeah pretty much any other type of fuel style heater would be too smelly unless you get something quite a bit more costly. I mean the heater and fan were about 230 u.s dollars and 40ish for the hose kit and then whatever size tank you end up wanting...
What did you use for a permanent hose?
@ericgahagan3800 I did a steel line through the wall to a 500 gallon outdoor tank. I bought a flexible line from the unit to the wall line. I did a final hookup video also that goes over all of it. Thanks for watching!
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Ayeee Cleveland ohio for life just picked one up too
I've got the heater you've got . never used it, BEFORE THE WARRANTY RAN OUT. What would be your guess, thermocouple or gas valve ?
What issue is it having?
I have 1 in my 2 car garage running on a propane tank. The fan on it is a joke. Doesn't heat my garage like I wish. I would need like 3 to make it comfortable. I always have to fire up.my torpedo heater first to make it nice. Then turn on the mr heater to kinda maintain a temp. but my garage will will.still be chilly
Can you time how long it takes to use a 20 lb. Tank?
Hooked mine to 40lb. tank and had it set at 68* in new england weather and it last about 2 weeks.
@@sidmonitch New England weather as in fall or winter weather? Thank you
A pound of propane contains 21,548 Btu's. A 20 pound tank contains 430,960 Btu's of energy. Producing maximum heat at 30,000 Btu's per hour a tank would last 14 hours and 20 minutes.
Why don’t you just go to the good old fashion way of heating the room with water pipes radiators like back in the good old days no carbon monoxide
I’m thinking your insurance agency would not be impressed with an open flame in a wood shop. Mine wouldn’t even let me have a wood stove.
Very well done, thanks.
Make sure you put the £20 bottle right in front of ITIT will keep you really warm LOLS
the "special gas tape" is just thicker... couple more wraps will get you there... or just get some dope.
For the cost of that heater an to fill the tank you be better off looking into a mini split unit they cool an heat an depending on what size your garage is would mean the size of the unit an it would pay for its self in the long run
Where can I buy that hose assembly?
I found mine at my local Tractor supply company, they were also the one that sold me the heater. But I also put a link in one of the comments for the hose assembly on amazon. Let me know if you need it again.
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Anyone know where to get a replacement thermostat for this unit?
Where does the exhaust go?
So they consider it a ventless unit. It produces a very small amount of exhaust. In the directions they instruct to keep a window or door cracked.
I need the instructions on how to put together a Cipro 2:34
OK this may just be a minor complaint and please someone actually correct me if I am wrong on this but here’s the confusion smaller tanks are rated by pounds a.k.a. 20 pound tank 40 pound tank 100 pound tank I think anything over a 100 pound tank that is a stationary tank that cannot simply be picked up in more and moved easily Hass to be moved by machine is then rated in gallons me and my wife have a 120 gallon tank right outside her house then from my understanding you can get a 250 pound gallon say I did it too 250 gallon tank a 500 gallon tank and I think someone makes an in 1000 gallon tank but that’s still the point I think after a 100 pound tank everything is rated in gallons after that
It is odd and I'm sure someone will have a better explanation than myself. I did a second video where I did a final installation to a 500 gallon tank outside. Maybe that will help with any questions. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Thanks
Thank you!
@Herman Woodworks I just bought this unit for the fact it can hook up to natural gas or propane. I have natural gas ran out to my 2 & 1/2 car garage, but my shop is currently set up on the opposite side where the gas line comes in. So, until I can find a full week off to rearrange opposite sides of the garage, using this unit as propane in the meantime then being able to convert it back to natural gas sounds like a winner to me. So, I appreciate your video as I'm on my way to ACE hardware for the parts I need for temporarily using propane.
Those are Good for small places not big 1200 Sq. Ft.
Selling the electric assembly separate is nice for me
I have this same model, my problem with this is that when i turn the dial it will only light all the cells. Setting it to one 2 or 3 doesnt do anything till i turn it to max then it all lights, but it could be an issue with pressure?!, its supposed to run on a 250lb propane tank. I had hooked it up to a 10 gallon barbicue tank
The initial hookup i had on this before it got hardlined was a hose kit that was meant for 20 lb up to 100lb tanks....the next video I did it got hardlined to a 500 lb tank. I specified to the propane company which heater I was running so the regulator matched the required specs.
How much for a new switch and how do you take out the old one?
I may get one of those for my off grid cabin my fire place burns the wood fast but it heats the house up good but every 2to3 hours at night you have to get up and put more wood in it not a good nights sleep lol
The unit comes with a 1-5 setting for comfort level. You could set it real low so it just kicks on when the temperature drops after the fire has burnt down. I have a friend that throws a little lump coal in the fireplace to keep the fire burning a little longer. Haven't tried it myself though. I also did a final installation video attaching it to a 500 gallon tank outside. Thanks for watching!
I don’t understand I bought a Mr heater. It ran a whole tank of propane out in about 10-19 hours. That’s a tank of propane a day. What am I doing wrong??
What is your square footage and which setting do you have it on? I would only run it on 1 usually and shut it down when I wasn't in the shop. The insulation held the heat well.
Excelente video, todo muy claro. gracias 🙏👍
Two questions: Are you worried about Co2 and also what about dust and an open flame in a woodshop?
So while they call it ventless, I crack a door from time to time to keep fresh air coming in. I do make mental note of running dust collection and air filtration units especially while sanding. I cut the heat off if I'm doing alot of sanding.
I ran this setup in my house last winter because the hvac never got installed before winter. It worked great and never killed anyone. Haha I had a carbon monoxide detector close by and more in other rooms. They never went off. Ran it literally all winter long in zero temps. Best investment for backup heat I’ve ever had.
Propane does not produce carbon monoxide. So you’re safe there. Oxygen depletion is the concern. Most units like this have a shutoff if oxygen is depleted. Empire heaters are ventless and have auto shutoff.
@@thelouiebrand ...using 20lbs tanks???
@@thomasmiller9770 If the heater is malfunctioning in some way to cause incomplete combustion, then it WILL produce carbon monoxide. A perfectly functioning propane heater will not produce it, sure, but it's better to have a carbon monoxide detector incase of a malfunctioning heater.
Hmmmm...just spent 5min goin thru ur list of vids...cant seem to find the UPDATE to this one ya said ya would do...did I miss something..❓did ya just leave it hooked up inside to the 20# tank for the last 7months?
Hello! My apologies! I did leave that one hanging. Let me whip together a video going over what I ended up doing! Hope it helps! I'll try to get it loaded by tomorrow! Take care and thanks for watching!
So will a regular pressure regulator not work?
How much propane does it use?
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I have one of these but it is for Natural Gas. I have to run a 70 feet hose from the gas hookup to the shop, Do I have to install a valve at the other end? Does natural gas provide the correct pressure at 70 feet? Any input would be great. Thanks!
Talk to your gas provider about their requirements and I think they may even do the final hookup so they can pressure test it and assure they put on or provide the correct regulator. The propane company i used did that for me. I just had to run the line through the wall. Hope that helps.
Unplug
Then take off cover
The top of the heater box says don't do this !!!
So this may be a very stupid question but i cant seem to find an answer. I am needing an emergency heating source in case of power outages and was wondering, is using a propane tank indoors with sensors a viable option or would this not end well?
Not a stupid question...but it's kind of a complicated answer. For insurance purposes and total safety, the answer is no. But if you read through some comments on here or watch some other videos, lots of people use this heater indoors, including the tank. I used it indoors for a short while to heat this workshop. I did a follow up video with the final installation to a 500 gallon tank. It says ventless but there will be some smell and fumes. Crack a window or open and shut a door from time to time. I know its a round about answer but really it comes down to what you personally are ok with. I've watch people run kerosene heaters indoors and they are crazy fume producers. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Will you install them for people? A customer?
what is the hose you got . I need a longer one for mine . . I know it needs a regulator but i want to put on propane tank gage that shows how full the tank is . I am just hooking it up to a20 lb tank for now also
I put a link somewhere in the comments...ill try and find it again. It came with a regulator already and is 12 ft long I believe.
Thanks for the information 👍
Is there a make and or part number on the hose kit?
Mr. Heater Propane Hose and Regulator Kit.....I believe it is F273684....let me know if that helps!
@@HermanWoodworks why is the hose temporary?
It is temporary based on their packaging and my desire to eventually hard black steel pipe it to my wall.