A 4x4 with all that lower cladding is counter intuitive. There is no way this van could be considered off road. Either remove the cladding or change to 4x2. Otherwise this van is a work of art.
For being 19ft....this is the one for me! I love it!! Thanks for doing this video!! They did a great job n this one...only one dislike.. .the price....
Absolutely beautiful , extremely well appointed for a small van , very well done . Unfortunately , the MSRP takes this van so far away from the everyday working class person for ownership . I love it , just not attainable .
This is the only video I’ve ever fast forwarded straight to “It’s time for the MSRP!” I about fell out of my chair $225,334. Anyhoo, now I can go back and watch the whole video with that price in mind and determine if it’s worth it.
@@RVConcierge not the best Jimmy. I have given up on the RV dream. The pain and bad health have nearly nailed that coffin shut. Oh well, it was a nice dream. I hope you are well my friend. I pray your family are all good and I wish for you a great end of the year and a fantastic sales for next year. Love you Brother. Cheers!!!
@@Trainy2 In these insane times that see 8 year old RVs selling for the same price that they sold for when new, I’m guessing that I’ll have to wait at least 10 years for a reasonable price😵💫
@@stevez340 Yeah, I know what you mean. I bought a travel trailer in July 2020, right before the huge price bump in materials. I could probably sell it now for what I paid for it at least. The same model 2022 year is going for almost 7k more than mine.
@@Trainy2 Exactly! I ordered a 2021 mini lite 2205s with theater seating in February of 2020 and picked it up last July before all of the Covid nonsense, labor shortages, insane price increases and increasing quality control issues hit the fan. Best decision I ever made, lol!
This is a very nice class B. It’s small and cute. My dislikes are: It’s a tight fit to get in but that’s because of the sink. It’s tight getting through to the bed. Small counter space but all that is do able. My likes are the bathroom. The fact it has control buttons all over the van. And the retractable awning. Thank you Matt and Andrea and Olivia and Rv One of Tampa.
Matt, The most essential selling point (in my view) as a future class B owner, is your statement to the effect; “American Coach will be reading your comments”. In the many hours of footage I’ve watched of Class B camper vans, I can’t help but be impressed by the increasing importance that both Nick (of Coachmen, Ron of American Coach) give to monitoring consumer feedback of their products on social media and at RV shows. I enjoy the content of your channel.
I've been shopping for my first RV for quite some time. This American Coach Patriot FD2 is the closest to what I feel would be my perfect RV. Three things I love about this van: 1: The Freedom battery system. This system looks to provide usefulness along with serviceability. The underhood generator, propane delete, heated batteries of a good size are all things I want. 2: Generous water tanks. With water more is better and this coach has good sized tanks for a 19 foot van. 3: Quality. The RV industry has a lot of shoody workmanship. What I've seen of the American Coach Patriot/Midwest Passage RV's instills a feeling that they are not going to start falling apart as soon as I drive them off the lot. Three things that I dislike about this van: 1: The fiberglass running boards. They look good but I have a feeling that I would curb them or break them if I went off road. I would prefer metal with a retractable step like some of the competition uses. 2: No shoulder belts on the rear seats? Most of the competition has them. One of the reasons I like the lounge configuration is that is seats more than just two people. 3: THE PRICE! Perhaps I'll wait for this RV to be available used when the market cools down.
Awesome RV!! They did a great fitting all the NECESSITIES into small foot print, that bathroom is AMAZING for a 20' vehicle. Let's face it, most people want to get from point to point safely & comfortably and this does that to the highest levels. Thanks for exposing us to the brand and model. Some many likes, but the all electric feature is the ONLY way to go with these small RV's, being able to run all quietly no matter where you are is a treasure! Also Guys, this is by far one of the best video's you have ever done...LOVED the quick test drive & u-turn and Andrea loving the bathroom! Congrats on getting the phone situation resolved.
I LOVE this coach! I had the larger (longest) Cl. B Patriot a few years ago, but because it was 4 ft longer I didn't use it for a daily driver like I thought I might. I bought the same length Sprinter van as this unit, and love driving it all over. Sure, Patriots aren't inexpensive, but they are well worth the money from my perspective. Can't wait to get another! (and the Freedom Pkg - great idea, not having to have a genset and charging the lithium batt's via the solar panels and/or the Sprinter engine alternator)
It said in the specs that Matt flashed on the screen that this is a 4x2! I own the 2020 version of this motorhome. I have the lithium package. BUT as pointed out by Cure Meister, it sits way too low. Off roading is NOT easy! My wife, and I love staying off of the grid, so, I am upgrading to an STO! I have to say that otherwise, it is a beautiful coach. It drives like a dream, and we used the bathroom, and shower every day! One last thing... the company support could be better!
Beautiful coach!!! I wish they would have had a convection microwave and figured a way to have a slightly larger refrigerator-/ other than that - it is a dream !! Colors are beautiful, love the awning, the screens, and the shades. Home run on the bath!!! Love the auto bed/ everything.
Welcome back Andrea! Love you two doing this together. Love this one, a bit pricy though. Love it all, even your 3 not so happy things, I love. Everything is there & very stylish, great job they did. Thanks for taking time to this all for us 😁
Really classy, cute, stealth mobile. Looks like a regular van and appears to handle well. Nice tech and all electric. I’d buy but the price is a bit steep for me.
So glad to see a Class B without a bike rack on the back, those head knockers are dangerous. Is the electric stove removable so that it could be used outside also? I like bathroom design just wish the door was not all glass, would like a little more privacy
Matt & Ron, An optional platform bed (similar to the Coachmen Galleria 24A), should be made available on more chassis. (while realizing it may not fit in this floor plan) The electric incline bed feature, would also befit the level of premium appointments one expects within this luxury market segment. Matt, if possible a review of the FD2 loft bed feature would be interesting.
Yes it does cost more than other alike but at least its available. Can not get the Canadian made ones now the wait is too long and i might forced to change to this one. I need an rv shorter than 20’. So the choice is limited if i need a decent wet bath. Do not want a cassette toilet.
I really like this ( just not for me need the bigger one) 3 things I LOVE 1. LOVE the freedom package (no propane or generator) 2. LOVE how the bathroom size is wide(just like the bigger model previously reviewed) 3. Love that you can safely transport larger families (more than 4) I dislike 1) the screen door (on both models) it makes it uncomfortable for wider people to get in and out, maybe close it full and not halfway 2. I dislike the refrigerator size (should be bigger, a party of two can full-time in this vehicle if you had a bigger fridge) 3) I dislike there was not an extension in the kitchen area for a counter just an extension that could fold up would be a huge help
Hey Matt and Andrea, thanks for the review of this little cutie! Like it except for the price! Wow, it is very expensive for the size of it! Keep on keepin' on!
Probably never going to be in the market for any type of motor home nor have I ever been interested yet I have been watching this channel from the beginning. I’m not sure why, I guess it’s fun to watch and get educated on these types of vehicles. Maybe one day we’ll rent one for a vacation…or know what to get in case of a zombie apocalypse 🧟♂️
I agree with Cure Meister. This not an "off road" Class B. This is for someone who wants to drive on their lawn and call it an off roading experience. For that MSRP, you could easliy go contact and custom Class B van builder, have them build you a true off road rv and still have money left over.
While I could never afford anything like this, let alone believe it could handle off-roading anything more than a trail. I’m more than certain a Subaru Outback with the wilderness package can hoof it up the paths further than this flannel clad party van. I do say that I like the short inserts from other people showing up to pop in and pop out describing things like packages or how easy it is to raise or lower the ramps on a toy hauler.
WAIT! Didn't both doors open for the bathroom? to make it bigger so to say. I thought for sure that wood part was also a door not just the glass. if not it's missed opportunity
This seems like another one of those B's that I scratch my head thinking who is buying these and what do they do with them? So expensive, and to me this is one of those "off the grid, but not offroad much further than paved highways or level-graded gravel roads and don't really do outdoor activities". Front lip ruins clearance, interior materials too nice to deal with them constantly getting dirty from outdoor activities, lack of interior storage for adventure gear compared to the competition. If they took off the BF Goodrich tires and put on regular ones, I probably wouldn't be as critical, but if they are really marketing this as an adventuresome, off-the-grid in remote locations kinda van, there are a million better choices for that money. This is like putting A/T tires on a Bentley to go off the beaten path rather than just getting a Jeep
For the price they should include a convection/microwave. They could have added a counter extension. I have too much junk in the trunk for this motorhome. I like the quality of the motorhome.
For the extremely high price, it should be definitely a four-season, but I have a feeling that it’s not. Also, if someone wants to go off grid, how does he recharge for the overnight if the batteries max out after twelve hours??? It is a beautiful class b but still much too expensive for what it offers.
This would be nice to drive to one of those events that don't allow you to move your vehicle once you've parked. Like a fireworks show or outdoor concert. If I only had the cash.... the sky's the limit!!!
I wish the manufacturers would understand that having bench seats in the back means so much less storage. Even their 'loft bed' versions have bench seats. Combined with the fixed running boards, why would I take that out into the wilderness? I can't bring enough stuff to make it worth it.
Mercedes has a gas option for it's cargo van. I think they could make these cheaper if the build one without Diesel. It surprises me that so many chase these. It's way over priced.
They packed a lot into 19 feet, and that bathroom did look wider than some other Class Bs you have shown. Does patriot add a second alternator to help fast charge the batteries?
Love this Van it has everything I need to tailgate and travel. Lovely shower , seating area. 4x4 is good for parking off paved lots and getting thru Southern tropical storms . Price hurt my heart dang house 🏠 cost but it's awesome.
I love how compact and short it is, Love the look, love the bathroom. 3 things I don't like about it. #1 Price. #2 Price. #3 Did I say price? $225,000 for a camper van is a lot.
I am sorry, but the price of these are just absurd. I cannot believe people actually will pay a quarter of a million dollars for a freaking van. Furthermore, this is not for off road -- it would get destroyed.
Yep. Methinks this will sort itself out eventually through market reaction and demand. Every manu is now trying to do the "offroad" thing to get in on the adventure van market but it requires more thought than chucking on some BF Goodrich's and using the Mercedes chassis. I also feel like manu's add $50k-$75k to the MSRP just because they chucked a few lithium batteries and an inverter in it.
@@travellingslim Isn't there a formula 🤔 for calculating the ratio of solar panels to fully charge your batteries in a 4 to 5 hr sunny day? If they left the propane refrigerator it would be more likely
@@BevDessert Roof is too small and flat to get any meaningful power from solar on these B vans. The true off-grid power comes from having a second alternator in the engine or having a generator
It's gorgeous but totally not worth that price. I can buy a sprinter and build out for less than 100,00. It would be much less on another chaisis. IDK I don't think I'll ever find anything that I can afford without building my own. So sad.
I watch most of Matt and Andrea's reviews. Dont forget to hit that thumbs up button, even if he cant take his a** up on the roof to show us all the features the roof has to offer! Thanks for the great reviews!
How long will it take to recharge the 6 batteries on a sunny day from the solar panels? and plugimg in? Small size is great. Love the colors and the bath. Very nice. I would change the exterior color choices to include royal blue. Tired of white black options.
Based on the size of the solar system, I’d estimate its capable of producing between 1.2 to 3kWh per day under ideal conditions. Not sure what the capacity of the batteries is but assuming they are 100Ah lithiums that’s about 7.8kWh of capacity. So it would take 3 to 7 days to fully charge the system from dead to full charge with nothing but the solar. These smaller solar systems aren’t very practical if you plan on running the AC or a heater or using the induction cooktop a lot. You’d have to run the coach engine to charge with the second alternator or use shore power to makeup for what the solar can’t provide.
Likes: Wet bay, 360 cameras, and the upper storage. Dislikes: Tires don’t match the exterior, small refrigerator is very difficult to use and the bathroom should be at the rear.
NO flip up counter extension. For that amount of money, it would be nothing to include that. Not sure if I like the glass door on the bathroom, a privacy issue. The price is number 3 , woah nelly! Nice unit otherwise.
Gorgeous coach. My wife and I would be happy to travel in this. But, for versatility and spending less, I still think I'd choose the Coachmen something or other XG with the door on the back. I thought Matt was right - that all the Class C's would have a door on the back by now, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Too bad because it looks to be extremely versatile at a price which isn't quite as breathtaking.
LIKE THE OFF-ROADING THE WET BATH THE TECHNOLOGY DON’T LIKE NO KITCHEN COUNTER SPACE THE SMALL DOOR OPENING SMALL AND TIGHT HALLWAY MATT AND ANDREA TELL MJ I SAID HI
It really makes me sad 😢 I love watching you (Matt) and Andrea. I am in the market to buy an RV. I am torn on what type. I think the class B has gone insane competing with each other. I could never spend $200K on a van 🚐. Well unless I was super rich 🤑 then maybe I could! lol 😂
Mercedes is making formula 1 Van's, that's what 4" off the ground? Keep it on the pavement and watch those speed bumps. Nothing like being in the great Outdoors and coming into a white interior, better be Mr. Clean.
Great review. This thing is just counter intuitive. 4x4 and off road tires but too much ground effects so incapable of really going off road. All electric limits you to half a day if you use the AC due to no generator so you have to be in a campground with electric to stay anywhere for any amount of time. Not really sure there’s a market for this but if they built it I’m sure someone will buy it.
A 4x4 with all that lower cladding is counter intuitive. There is no way this van could be considered off road. Either remove the cladding or change to 4x2. Otherwise this van is a work of art.
For being 19ft....this is the one for me! I love it!! Thanks for doing this video!! They did a great job n this one...only one dislike.. .the price....
Absolutely beautiful , extremely well appointed for a small van , very well done . Unfortunately , the MSRP takes this van so far away from the everyday working class person for ownership . I love it , just not attainable .
This is the only video I’ve ever fast forwarded straight to “It’s time for the MSRP!” I about fell out of my chair $225,334. Anyhoo, now I can go back and watch the whole video with that price in mind and determine if it’s worth it.
😂 I love that! I own one of these and I love it!
@@RVConcierge hey Jimmy. Cheers!!!
@@ftkinsella brother Frank! How are you my friend?
@@RVConcierge not the best Jimmy. I have given up on the RV dream. The pain and bad health have nearly nailed that coffin shut. Oh well, it was a nice dream. I hope you are well my friend. I pray your family are all good and I wish for you a great end of the year and a fantastic sales for next year. Love you Brother. Cheers!!!
@@RVConcierge enjoy it in the very best of health. 👍
Overall, this 20 ft Class B is awesome and I would actually consider purchasing it if it were only $100,000 less than the $225,000 MSRP. 😳😳😳
You're going to have to wait a couple years and get a used one then
@@Trainy2 In these insane times that see 8 year old RVs selling for the same price that they sold for when new, I’m guessing that I’ll have to wait at least 10 years for a reasonable price😵💫
@@stevez340 Yeah, I know what you mean. I bought a travel trailer in July 2020, right before the huge price bump in materials. I could probably sell it now for what I paid for it at least. The same model 2022 year is going for almost 7k more than mine.
@@Trainy2 Exactly! I ordered a 2021 mini lite 2205s with theater seating in February of 2020 and picked it up last July before all of the Covid nonsense, labor shortages, insane price increases and increasing quality control issues hit the fan. Best decision I ever made, lol!
They have gotten ridiculous in pricing.
This is a very nice class B. It’s small and cute. My dislikes are: It’s a tight fit to get in but that’s because of the sink. It’s tight getting through to the bed. Small counter space but all that is do able. My likes are the bathroom. The fact it has control buttons all over the van. And the retractable awning. Thank you Matt and Andrea and Olivia and Rv One of Tampa.
Matt,
The most essential selling point (in my view) as a future class B owner, is your statement to the effect; “American Coach will be reading your comments”.
In the many hours of footage I’ve watched of Class B camper vans, I can’t help but be impressed by the increasing importance that both Nick (of Coachmen, Ron of American Coach) give to monitoring consumer feedback of their products on social media and at RV shows.
I enjoy the content of your channel.
Everybody wants one, but few can afford it.
I've been shopping for my first RV for quite some time. This American Coach Patriot FD2 is the closest to what I feel would be my perfect RV. Three things I love about this van: 1: The Freedom battery system. This system looks to provide usefulness along with serviceability. The underhood generator, propane delete, heated batteries of a good size are all things I want. 2: Generous water tanks. With water more is better and this coach has good sized tanks for a 19 foot van. 3: Quality. The RV industry has a lot of shoody workmanship. What I've seen of the American Coach Patriot/Midwest Passage RV's instills a feeling that they are not going to start falling apart as soon as I drive them off the lot. Three things that I dislike about this van: 1: The fiberglass running boards. They look good but I have a feeling that I would curb them or break them if I went off road. I would prefer metal with a retractable step like some of the competition uses. 2: No shoulder belts on the rear seats? Most of the competition has them. One of the reasons I like the lounge configuration is that is seats more than just two people. 3: THE PRICE! Perhaps I'll wait for this RV to be available used when the market cools down.
Matt, please contact NJ Wingamm dealer, see if you can review it, if they have one available. That would be a killer review!
I like the driving part of the review, I hope you do more of those
It’s the price of a Leisure Travel Van and ⅓ smaller.
Awesome RV!! They did a great fitting all the NECESSITIES into small foot print, that bathroom is AMAZING for a 20' vehicle. Let's face it, most people want to get from point to point safely & comfortably and this does that to the highest levels. Thanks for exposing us to the brand and model.
Some many likes, but the all electric feature is the ONLY way to go with these small RV's, being able to run all quietly no matter where you are is a treasure! Also Guys, this is by far one of the best video's you have ever done...LOVED the quick test drive & u-turn and Andrea loving the bathroom!
Congrats on getting the phone situation resolved.
I LOVE this coach! I had the larger (longest) Cl. B Patriot a few years ago, but because it was 4 ft longer I didn't use it for a daily driver like I thought I might. I bought the same length Sprinter van as this unit, and love driving it all over. Sure, Patriots aren't inexpensive, but they are well worth the money from my perspective. Can't wait to get another! (and the Freedom Pkg - great idea, not having to have a genset and charging the lithium batt's via the solar panels and/or the Sprinter engine alternator)
Likes: induction cooktop, mb chassis, and bathroom size
It said in the specs that Matt flashed on the screen that this is a 4x2! I own the 2020 version of this motorhome. I have the lithium package. BUT as pointed out by Cure Meister, it sits way too low. Off roading is NOT easy! My wife, and I love staying off of the grid, so, I am upgrading to an STO! I have to say that otherwise, it is a beautiful coach. It drives like a dream, and we used the bathroom, and shower every day! One last thing... the company support could be better!
Beautiful coach!!! I wish they would have had a convection microwave and figured a way to have a slightly larger refrigerator-/ other than that - it is a dream !! Colors are beautiful, love the awning, the screens, and the shades. Home run on the bath!!! Love the auto bed/ everything.
The MSRP shocked me. That was insane.! You can get a good sized and better equiped Class A RV for that price. NO!
Welcome back Andrea! Love you two doing this together. Love this one, a bit pricy though. Love it all, even your 3 not so happy things, I love. Everything is there & very stylish, great job they did. Thanks for taking time to this all for us 😁
One is a party two is a crowd. Funny.
Really classy, cute, stealth mobile. Looks like a regular van and appears to handle well. Nice tech and all electric. I’d buy but the price is a bit steep for me.
So glad to see Andrea. 🌹
Awe hi Karen ☺️
So glad to see a Class B without a bike rack on the back, those head knockers are dangerous.
Is the electric stove removable so that it could be used outside also?
I like bathroom design just wish the door was not all glass, would like a little more privacy
Quilted seats! Thanks for your hard work Lucy and Ricky ... ope, I mean Andrea and Matt
Matt & Ron,
An optional platform bed (similar to the Coachmen Galleria 24A), should be made available on more chassis. (while realizing it may not fit in this floor plan)
The electric incline bed feature, would also befit the level of premium appointments one expects within this luxury market segment.
Matt, if possible a review of the FD2 loft bed feature would be interesting.
You really need to review the Pleasure Way RVs. The Plateau TS has a great bathroom. High quality build at a lower price.
Wow six lithium batteries and a 4x4? This is a beautiful rig. Please tell me it’s four seasons as well. Cheers!!!
Yes it does cost more than other alike but at least its available. Can not get the Canadian made ones now the wait is too long and i might forced to change to this one. I need an rv shorter than 20’. So the choice is limited if i need a decent wet bath. Do not want a cassette toilet.
I really like this ( just not for me need the bigger one)
3 things I LOVE
1. LOVE the freedom package (no propane or generator)
2. LOVE how the bathroom size is wide(just like the bigger model previously reviewed)
3. Love that you can safely transport larger families (more than 4)
I dislike
1) the screen door (on both models) it makes it uncomfortable for wider people to get in and out, maybe close it full and not halfway
2. I dislike the refrigerator size (should be bigger, a party of two can full-time in this vehicle if you had a bigger fridge)
3) I dislike there was not an extension in the kitchen area for a counter just an extension that could fold up would be a huge help
Hey Matt and Andrea, thanks for the review of this little cutie! Like it except for the price! Wow, it is very expensive for the size of it! Keep on keepin' on!
Probably never going to be in the market for any type of motor home nor have I ever been interested yet I have been watching this channel from the beginning. I’m not sure why, I guess it’s fun to watch and get educated on these types of vehicles. Maybe one day we’ll rent one for a vacation…or know what to get in case of a zombie apocalypse 🧟♂️
I agree with Cure Meister. This not an "off road" Class B. This is for someone who wants to drive on their lawn and call it an off roading experience. For that MSRP, you could easliy go contact and custom Class B van builder, have them build you a true off road rv and still have money left over.
While I could never afford anything like this, let alone believe it could handle off-roading anything more than a trail. I’m more than certain a Subaru Outback with the wilderness package can hoof it up the paths further than this flannel clad party van. I do say that I like the short inserts from other people showing up to pop in and pop out describing things like packages or how easy it is to raise or lower the ramps on a toy hauler.
Love American Coach Patriot!!!
Much better than an exotic sport car.
I'll take it!!!!
WAIT! Didn't both doors open for the bathroom? to make it bigger so to say. I thought for sure that wood part was also a door not just the glass. if not it's missed opportunity
Extra points for using the work MURK.
I think the MSRP is high but, it is a nice Class B. I agree with the review.
Yes, but you can call, you can text, you can email and get a better price! Lol
Good looking rig, I’m not a B class guy but nice layout and touch’s
This seems like another one of those B's that I scratch my head thinking who is buying these and what do they do with them? So expensive, and to me this is one of those "off the grid, but not offroad much further than paved highways or level-graded gravel roads and don't really do outdoor activities". Front lip ruins clearance, interior materials too nice to deal with them constantly getting dirty from outdoor activities, lack of interior storage for adventure gear compared to the competition.
If they took off the BF Goodrich tires and put on regular ones, I probably wouldn't be as critical, but if they are really marketing this as an adventuresome, off-the-grid in remote locations kinda van, there are a million better choices for that money. This is like putting A/T tires on a Bentley to go off the beaten path rather than just getting a Jeep
For the price they should include a convection/microwave. They could have added a counter extension. I have too much junk in the trunk for this motorhome. I like the quality of the motorhome.
For the extremely high price, it should be definitely a four-season, but I have a feeling that it’s not. Also, if someone wants to go off grid, how does he recharge for the overnight if the batteries max out after twelve hours??? It is a beautiful class b but still much too expensive for what it offers.
likely a 2nd alternator and an auto start.
Nice but way too small. Maybe for couples weekend excursions.
Definitely a tailgate/picnic/road trip vehicle, but camping? Meh.
This would be nice to drive to one of those events that don't allow you to move your vehicle once you've parked. Like a fireworks show or outdoor concert. If I only had the cash.... the sky's the limit!!!
Love the rear lounge....I do dislike looking at beds. lol
I wish the manufacturers would understand that having bench seats in the back means so much less storage. Even their 'loft bed' versions have bench seats. Combined with the fixed running boards, why would I take that out into the wilderness? I can't bring enough stuff to make it worth it.
Exactly. And that added front lower lip, along with the fancy materials inside. Wouldn't dream of getting that dirty.
Mercedes has a gas option for it's cargo van. I think they could make these cheaper if the build one without Diesel. It surprises me that so many chase these. It's way over priced.
You are fun to watch and very informative... which is why I finally subscribed
Thank you so much Nora ☺️
They packed a lot into 19 feet, and that bathroom did look wider than some other Class Bs you have shown. Does patriot add a second alternator to help fast charge the batteries?
This is a Great Looking Class B .. Thanks Matt & Andrea for this Great Review #MattsRVReviewRocks
Love this Van it has everything I need to tailgate and travel. Lovely shower , seating area. 4x4 is good for parking off paved lots and getting thru Southern tropical storms . Price hurt my heart dang house 🏠 cost but it's awesome.
I love how compact and short it is, Love the look, love the bathroom. 3 things I don't like about it. #1 Price. #2 Price. #3 Did I say price? $225,000 for a camper van is a lot.
The rear bath units are so much better because you don't have the super narrow walkway.
I am sorry, but the price of these are just absurd. I cannot believe people actually will pay a quarter of a million dollars for a freaking van. Furthermore, this is not for off road -- it would get destroyed.
True words, not worth the price.
Yep. Methinks this will sort itself out eventually through market reaction and demand. Every manu is now trying to do the "offroad" thing to get in on the adventure van market but it requires more thought than chucking on some BF Goodrich's and using the Mercedes chassis. I also feel like manu's add $50k-$75k to the MSRP just because they chucked a few lithium batteries and an inverter in it.
@@travellingslim Isn't there a formula 🤔 for calculating the ratio of solar panels to fully charge your batteries in a 4 to 5 hr sunny day? If they left the propane refrigerator it would be more likely
@@BevDessert Roof is too small and flat to get any meaningful power from solar on these B vans. The true off-grid power comes from having a second alternator in the engine or having a generator
Need a convection oven, but really nice for its size.
Hey Matt! Those side-marker lights are actually fog lights. Great review as usual🤙🏼
Thanks for the info.
is the a/c 12 volt. Seems so because it's quiet.
One time, I think 2-3 months ago, Matt gave a class B a prime poopin position. I forget which Class B it was.
It's gorgeous but totally not worth that price. I can buy a sprinter and build out for less than 100,00. It would be much less on another chaisis. IDK I don't think I'll ever find anything that I can afford without building my own. So sad.
Next time mention the macerator. That is an important feature for older people.
I could buy a house where I live for that much. I live in Ohio.
Eyebrows around the driving lights should be an accent color.
The best RV channel!!
I am looking for a used RV, can you please help me? i don't care about the length and model of the RV. I am just looking for less than $50,000 ones
Love the van brother what’s the price live in Orlando looking for something like this do they have any Revels
Does it have PPP you never said thanks for sharing and as always stay safe and God bless love ya Nancy
Love this one...but that price!! Holy Cow!!
Great review
I don’t use the word “outrageous” very often, but after looking at the price I think this is one of those times…
Bathroom would be so much better without the sink? Its never used or at least put a fold up one!
How much basic money you need (includes insurances...etc) be able to buy this?
msrp is laughable
wife and I burst out in simultaneous laughter
can I pay for this rig cash? yes
would I pay that for this rig? lol
NO!
I watch most of Matt and Andrea's reviews. Dont forget to hit that thumbs up button, even if he cant take his a** up on the roof to show us all the features the roof has to offer! Thanks for the great reviews!
It’s perfect for me and my small dog! Wish I could afford it! 😃
I love everything about this tiny motorhome except the price
How long will it take to recharge the 6 batteries on a sunny day from the solar panels? and plugimg in? Small size is great. Love the colors and the bath. Very nice. I would change the exterior color choices to include royal blue. Tired of white black options.
Based on the size of the solar system, I’d estimate its capable of producing between 1.2 to 3kWh per day under ideal conditions. Not sure what the capacity of the batteries is but assuming they are 100Ah lithiums that’s about 7.8kWh of capacity. So it would take 3 to 7 days to fully charge the system from dead to full charge with nothing but the solar. These smaller solar systems aren’t very practical if you plan on running the AC or a heater or using the induction cooktop a lot. You’d have to run the coach engine to charge with the second alternator or use shore power to makeup for what the solar can’t provide.
Would Be Nice If the Back Bench Seat Had at least 2 Seat Belt Systems To Carry 4 People Travelling ....
Matt, what advice would you give to someone who wants to pay monthly for a small class B van? Central Texas. Considering full time van life. Thanks. 🌺
Likes:
Wet bay, 360 cameras, and the upper storage.
Dislikes:
Tires don’t match the exterior, small refrigerator is very difficult to use and the bathroom should be at the rear.
NO flip up counter extension. For that amount of money, it would be nothing to include that. Not sure if I like the glass door on the bathroom, a privacy issue. The price is number 3 , woah nelly! Nice unit otherwise.
Gorgeous coach. My wife and I would be happy to travel in this. But, for versatility and spending less, I still think I'd choose the Coachmen something or other XG with the door on the back. I thought Matt was right - that all the Class C's would have a door on the back by now, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Too bad because it looks to be extremely versatile at a price which isn't quite as breathtaking.
🚨Olivia, on 69. Got it! 🚨
Olivias face cracked me up ! 😂
Would have liked if they had put a convection microwave in instead of a standard microwave.
Olivia is awesome
Still is very expensive compared with American vans class B it is imaginary numbers I know it’s Mercedes thanks 🙏 keep it up 👍
Nobody going to say anything about how Matt pronounced “Method” wheels? Have I just been saying it wrong all these years? Lol
Lol I was thinking the same thing… maybe because of the price they use special ‘Mee-thod’ wheels instead of the basic ‘Method’ wheels 🤣🤣
Matt and Andrea love from the UK
Thanks so much :)
Love the cook top
Love it but way to expensive I would go for a larger motor home
225k??? I wouldn’t pay that much for a full sized RV and I’ve seen some bigger ones with an MSRP of about 65-95k.
LIKE THE OFF-ROADING THE WET BATH THE TECHNOLOGY DON’T LIKE NO KITCHEN COUNTER SPACE THE SMALL DOOR OPENING SMALL AND TIGHT HALLWAY MATT AND ANDREA TELL MJ I SAID HI
It really makes me sad 😢 I love watching you (Matt) and Andrea. I am in the market to buy an RV. I am torn on what type. I think the class B has gone insane competing with each other. I could never spend $200K on a van 🚐. Well unless I was super rich 🤑 then maybe I could! lol 😂
Hmmm, a BPPPP?
It sets to low to do off road
What's the sale price on this unit
They are out of their minds!! Almost 1/4 mil because it’s a Mercedes. Ridiculous
Great Class B. Set up for driving comfort . You can see the quality but the $225k msrp is up there. Again the quality is there.
Very cool and practical for the driving part but $225k is too dang much. I can get an Ekko for $200k
Mercedes is making formula 1 Van's, that's what 4" off the ground? Keep it on the pavement and watch those speed bumps. Nothing like being in the great Outdoors and coming into a white interior, better be Mr. Clean.
Great review.
This thing is just counter intuitive. 4x4 and off road tires but too much ground effects so incapable of really going off road. All electric limits you to half a day if you use the AC due to no generator so you have to be in a campground with electric to stay anywhere for any amount of time. Not really sure there’s a market for this but if they built it I’m sure someone will buy it.