I noticed you mentioning (quite a few times) that you didn’t know the reason why certain functions or features on this camera exist. 1) The webcam function is intended for people who want the “professional” video quality as well as the different focal lengths or use of shallow depth of field while doing a live stream, interview, conference calls, etc. Which is not only useful in the UA-cam era, but especially so in the Covid era. 2) Bluetooth 5.0 is a big step up from Bluetooth 4.2 due to its instantaneous pairing, more reliable connection, and better data transfer. No more issues with trying to get it to connect, sudden disconnects, or slow transfer speeds. 3) 16x9 crops are useful for people who are shooting images to be used as video thumbnails.
The nikon video/photo switch is so important for hybrid work - just revisited Taylor Jackson's R6 review and the way it switches is pretty useless for that type of work.
@@terrywbreedlove yeah, that’s why any of the crop modes exist, really. It makes no sense for Ken to praise other crop modes then say that 16:9 for video thumbnails is “better done later in post production” 🤷🏼♂️
@@kylefraser6456 then why does he continually say he prefers to have it right out of the camera. 16:9 would be out of the camera. Frankly it’s just a lot of blah blah blah
Not sure why you keep recommending the Canon RP over the z5, I've used both and hands down the Nikon is the better camera. The only reason to buy the RP is price.
@@KenRockwellTV If I were to reply with anything, as a professional, it wouldn't be "bingo". That shows that you have contempt for @timroberts6828's choice to prefer Nikon. The comment "bingo" comes off as unprofessional and sarcastic.
I am really interested in the Z5. Quick question, though. I have sensitivity to the OLED flicker of the electronic viewfinder- it causes eye strain and headaches. An alternative is to shoot with the rear LCD instead of the viewfinder. Do you see that type of shooting as a hindrance- enough of a problem that it might be better to go with a full frame DSLR instead to have the optical viewfinder? I’ve played with one of these and it seems ok shooting that way- just not sure if it would really be a problem longer term in my weekly landscape shooting that I do.
The whole point of these cameras is the EVF. If you’re not going to use it, then of course it’s better to use a DSLR. If you want to use just the little screen on the back, use an iPhone. Try the Z5 evf however, I’ve never notice and flicker and I often can see it if it were there.
Z5 is an old but good model as Nikons go, but don’t forget to look at Canon. I prefer the R6 II or any of their APS-C models. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/index.htm
Thanks Ken. I have always appreciated you sharing your wisdom. I have learned a lot from you over the years. I appreciate your stance on Nikon vs Canon. There weren’t enough negatives in this camera to move me to Canon this time. I hope Nikon continues to find their way. I think the Z mount offers a lot of opportunities. Since I moved up from DX, I don’t have legacy glass and am moving mostly to Z mount. I have been impressed so far. One thing I will say about the Raw vs Jpg discussion is that people pay lots of money for these great processors in the cameras and don’t really utilize what they provide. They’ll take a Raw file and do the same things the camera would do, and end up exporting out a JPG anyway. LOL.
Maybe, maybe not. You’d have to try it yourself. Sometimes off brands just don’t work; every lens is different. If it focuses with a screw head on the mount driven by an in-camera motor, it won’t autofocus on the Z5. If the lens has an internal focus motor, it might. It’s hard to say as not everything works as we’d like when you mix brands. Thanks!
Right now I have a Z50, it’s takes great pictures but just feels like toy, no IBIS, no need for video because I find it easier on my iPhone pro. I will miss the pop up flash but I’ve always wanted full frame so I can use lenses for what they are. I’m debating whether or not to move up to a Z5, thoughts?
Stick with the Z50 and 16-50. Feeling like a toy makes it more fun and you’ll get better pictures. If you really want to step up, step up to Canon, and in nikon you can pay more, but the pictures don’t get any better. Hint: I only use dedicated video cameras or my iPhone for video. I’ve never been happy with the performance of Mirrorless or DSLRs for video. Thanks! PS : big sale on the Z5 if you really want to invest more deeply in nikon. Even I’m tempted by this link with also my favorite bag and favorite Z lens www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1624461-REG/nikon_nikon_z_5_mirrorless.html/BI/287/KBID/1037
I love the Canon RP. Super inexpensive. The Z5 is very nice, too, just part of an inferior system from an inferior company (Nikon) who dumps production overseas to save themselves cost and has much poorer support than Canon. See my real Z5 review at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z5.htm and RP at www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm the Z5 is great, just not a fan of the nikon system today.
@@KenRockwellTV the one thing that I wish I could have is a full frame with a pop up flash. Even though it’s weak on the Z50 it’s very convenient. Switching to Canon after 40 years of Nikon would be a big change.
@@maeu59 Yes, mirrorless is also a big change. Nikon has never been a leader in mirrorless, and is no long a leader as it was when I bought into it 40 years ago. Today, they're number three. I'd consider Canon before getting too stuck in Nikon Z. If you do stay back in Nikon, I love my tiny SB-400 flash www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb400.htm
Getting into shooting apparel for website product images and need good color representation and was directed to this Nikon Z5. Do y'all agree this is great for that?
Anything from Canon or Nikon will do very well for this. Every model from each brand has the same look as every other model. While there are differences between brands, within any one brand all the models match pretty well for color.
I have the Z50 and want a Nikon FF camera and which choice is the best? For not breaking the bank im thinking of the Z6 or Z5. Im used to Nikons DSLR and have alot of F lenses. Perhaps the Z5 is the better choice for me?
You said that when using time shots there was no warning light. But I noticed that the green memory light was flashing when recording. I would have thought you would be able to see it at night? Once it stopped time's up . Ray from UK , If wrong I'm sorry but I'm new to all this .
I can’t recall. I was talking about long time still exposures. Maybe it does write now and then, just can’t remember anything obvious and steady. This also changes with firmware.
Hi! See everything at my website at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z5.htm#usage also see my Z7 II guide from which many things may also apply www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z7-ii-users-guide.htm
Thank you this was a great video as I am so close to purchasing this camera in my budget. If I have only one lense to buy for it would you recommend the 24-50 or the lense that goes to 200?
Good review on the Z5! I will probably pass on this camera, but it would make a nice travel kit. I shot a dance performance recently and my Z6 ll with the new battery grip was a great combo! The images were great, the AF using Auto Area AF was flawless and shooting in low light was a breeze. This is a big step up from the Z6.
@@stanobert3475 I have Canon R5 and Nikon Z7 for music photography (I'll trade my Z7 to whatever 45megapixel small Nikon comes out next but will keep R5 for good).. i would prefer to shoot Nikon, and definitely Nikon's better for landscapes, and certain acts (e,g. heavy metal, family fun park music etc) i really do prefer Nikon.. but.. Canon in music industry it's more accepted. People think I'm unusual to own both Canon and Nikon but they both have their uses. When I first got into serious photography 2007, I said "I'm going to only have Canon and Nikon - biggest companies (at that time) most stuff available cheap / 2nd hand!".
Depends on what you want to do, but go Canon. THe RP is the best compact, and the Canon EOS Canon EOS R6 best for sports and the Canon EOS Canon EOS R5 best for everything www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/index.htm
I'm intrigued by how Nikon expanded the number of non-CPU lens data slots; it makes me wonder if they're planning on releasing a more fully functional FTZ adapter later on. That would be consistent with their recent business model: give up old features for one or two cycles only to pay more to get them back later. Ugh. Thanks for the review. Great to finally see this one up close.
I recently got a Nikon Zf and I'm looking to aquire a second backup body, that's affordable and takes my Z mount lenses. Honestly, I’m leaning towards the Nikon Z5, but with the recent price drops the Z6ii is not much more and is appealing also. Nearly everyone I've spoken to who actually owns a Z5, LOVES it. I love my Zf, but I want something that will act as a more ergonomic and compact backup. I shoot portraits and headshots and an occasional family session. I don't need speed, and I don’t plan on doing video with this backup. I played with a Z5 in the store a bit and it felt really nimble and great to use. In use, I couldn’t really tell much difference between the Z5 and Z6ii. Both nice. Would you recommend the Z5 as a backup to my Zf? I know it’s not as technically advanced or fast but I don’t care. One look at the files the Z5 creates and I’m sold. Would you recommend the Z5 even now in 2024?
@ it is??? For real? Why? I love that you are always the voice of dissent. I trust you. Re: Backup. More of a “One retro and one modern, same lenses, similar file output”. I want to be able to use both bodies on the same shoot, and not be able to see too much difference in the files.
Wow great review! I'm stuck between the Z5 and the Z6ii. Something is telling me to go 6ii, that in 3 years, it will still be a top body. But $800 less I could put that into better lenses. How would you look at it? More capable body or lower end body but paired with top glass?
I prefer Canon. I don’t suggest anyone buy into the Nikon system. In three years all of today’s digital cameras will have been forgotten. I prefer the Z5 from Nikon, but way prefer the Canon EOS RP overall, or for action, the Canon EOS R5 or Canon EOS R6. Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV i dont understand how wd you prefer RP over Z5 coz RP doesn't have 2 card slots, IBIS, better ergonomics, 4fps instead of 1- 1/2, better Dynamic Range..?
@@KenRockwellTV i used to be a nikon shooter for qround 7 years and had d3100 & d750 for 5 years then i quit weddings then i sold my all nikon gear and bought Canon 90D for everyday use i really liked the videos out of it and colors for jpegs are good too but overall IQ i didn't expect from it even at lower iso 500 i saw grain in shadow if light is proper then its super sharp but in shadows it sucks, now may be i ll buy Z5 for DR and handling and dual card slots which canon dont have in that price range. Always love to see your review before buying. Thanks
The problem with those junk brand adapters is that they usually work, but not always. It’s always a Sceince experiment with then whether or not a certain lens will work or not, or how well. You spend more time updating firmware for compatibility bugs than shooting - and it still lacks an autofocus motor, so it’s not for me.
Realize I am zombie threading this, but I have a D5000 I have been using for years and have plenty of Nikon DX lenses (Nikon and Sigma). I am trying to decide it it is worth starting over and switching or if there is enough utility in the older DX lenses (understanding this is an FX camera) to use via the FTZ adapter. I shoot a mix odf still and sports (kids sporting events).
FTZ doesn’t work with every lens, and even if it does, it’s bigger and clumsier than just getting new lenses. Once you do that, you may as well swap brands. I prefer anything from Canon better than this Nikon. Thanks!!!
Oh crap - don’t use DX lenses on an FX camera like this : it throws away most of the Z5’s pixels cropping to DX! Just go Canon R10 and rfs 18-150mm and you’re done. See www.kenrockwell.com/tech/crop-factor.htm
Well, the Canon EOS R6 and Canon EOS R5 are far superior, while the Z5 is better than the Nikon Z6 and Z7. All depends on which Canon to which you compare. See all my explicit reviews at KenRockwell.com
The RP and Z5 are both very small. Canon makes a exceptionally light 24-105mm STM lens vs Nikons shorter lightweight lenses www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/lenses/24-105mm-stm.htm
thank you for great video. I am a mid range photographer, not an amateur and not a professional as well. You still recommend me z5 or z6 ıı? or you recommend me canon? I do look for something price performance, and very appreciated for your answer.
I recommend Canon. The Z5 is nice, while the ergonomics of the Z6, Z7 and z9 are inferior to Canon. Ergonomics are critical in getting the camera out of the way and letting me just get the shot. Thanks. See also www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm
@@KenRockwellTV many thanks, last questions. I want to move up Full Frame scale. Which models in Canon you recommend me? up to 1500 USD and up to 2500 USD. You recommend the new mirrorless ones or EF mount classical types? Thank you very much!!
If you want to spend $2,500 then the R6 mark II just came out and is state of the art. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/r6-ii.htm DSLRs take the same pictures, but will most likely depreciate faster when you go to sell them in a few years, so the R6 II will likely cost less to own over time. The R6 II is great for everything including sprts and action. The RP is less than half the price but not fast enough for action. If you’re shootong only portrait and landscape etc then check it out as full frames best bargain www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm
@@KenRockwellTV do you think in a low light situation, eos rp and r6 ii take the same image? I guess iso, ibis systems and developed sensors add image quality over rp.
Ken can you give your opinion D750 used or Z5? Coming from the old D7000. I have issues with the D7000, even after fine tuning and sending the body back for repairs.
Are the issues your own error? If so, new camera isn’t likely to change anything. The D750 and Z5 are night and day different. The DSLR handles much faster; choose it for moving subjects. The Mirrorless is only for things that hold still and takes much more tine to set up snd adjust - but you can see everything in the finder. If you already have lenses that may change your ideas. Avoid DX lensss on the d750 or Z5. They each use very different lenses. If you go Z5 that’s a completely different system from the D750 and you should consider this as a good time to upgrade to Canon because you’ll wind up buying everything new for the Z5 - so may as well do the same for Canon does this help? Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV Thank you for taking the time to reply. I have been shooting with Nikon since 1984. I am 100% sure it is not user issue since when I use other cameras (Friends D500) I do not have this issue. I even took the D7000 to Nikon for service as you can clearly see the focus point in the Nikon software for the image but the focus is off. I had subsequently bought a Sony A6000 awhile back to use instead as I no longer had confidence in the D7000. I mainly have FX lenses with only 2 x DX lenses. Since I don't have too many DX lenses and more FX based ones I am leaning towards a FX body. Yes after watching your videos I understand I would have to get the Z mount lenses. The only thing is the EOS RP might be due for a replacement. Yes I am not convinced that I should be going mirrorless since that would make all my F mount lenses useless. I know the D780 is very decent, but I think the D750 will be more than enough camera for me. I was also considering the D810, but the D750 would be newer. Yes your reply helped solidify my thoughts.
I am still torn between this and the Canon EOS RP. I feel like I should go with this one, but something is telling me I may be better off with Canon in the future. What to do???
Ken has lost his mind. Nikon isn’t going anywhere and RF and Z ecosystems are comparable. RP is not good. I had the RP and quickly got rid of it for the R6. The RP is lacking in many areas compared to the Z5. DPReview compared the two check that out. Z5 dominates in all categories and they didn’t even mention the Z5 has in body image stabilization and RP doesn’t. Z5 $999 right now until end of weekend.
Hi Ken, good to watch your review on z5 before i deciding to get one. Fyi, i just got my z50 in last month. If i were to get one fx body, what do you think of z5 as compared to my z50? It is just a small upgrade that not worth it and better to stick on z50? Pls advice thanks. *just fyi the reason i picked z50 previously was because i have several dx f-mount lenses and use it with ftz. Now thinking to get an ff body.
The Z5 will require all FX lenses, otherwise its a waste of time if you use the same DX lenses from your Z50 on it. It's a very similar camera; I don't understand all the camera buying on your part; what's wrong with your Z50? The Z5 id very similar. The Z50 is best with the tiny kit 16-50mm and maybe the kit 50-250mm and you're set for everything.
@@KenRockwellTV i understood z5 need fx lenses. What i meant was, if i were to buy z5, definitely i will buy some fx lenses, i will not use dx lenses on z5. I understood that z5 will automatically do the crop. In fact, i have some other f-mount fx lenses which i used ftz on z50. So, my thought was, if i plan to buy another body which is fx, is it worth to buy z5 since i have z50 (if you think the profile is almost the same as z5) or shall I go for higher like z6 or z7?
When the Z5 crops to DX it has much less resolution than the Z50. Don't do that. Why buy more stuff? I don't know what you're trying to shoot, and honestly I prefer the Z5 for its better controls and smaller size than the older Z6/Z7 II. The Z5 isn't very fast; but guess what, the AF of the Z6 II and Z7 II is also pretty bad even if they run at higher frame rates, so I'd stick with the great Z50. If you want a better camera, it's smarter to step up to the Canon EOS R6 or Canon EOS R5 than throw more money into Nikon. It's not 1983 anymore, Nikon hasn't been the top pro camera since the 1990s..
And what can someone buy to start in macrophotography or landscape photography in that order? And not a Canon. I dont like Canon. I was looking a the Z series, but ill like to ask, cause ther are few Z mount lenses and correct me if am wrong there is no Z mount macro 1:1 lens yet.
Correct. Nikon is now a small company with very limited resources and few lenses and not likely to have many new ones. Therefore you’re stuck with F mount macro lenses and the FTZ adapter. See www.kenrockwell.com/tech/best-macro-lenses.htm#nikon and know that only FX and afs lenses will work best on the FTZ and Z5. Get the 60mm f/2.8G or ideally 105/2.8 VR. I use the 200/4D every day, but the FTZ won’t work properly with it.
Hi Ken,thanks for your review. I am in between the Canon EOS rp and the Nikon z5. Autofocus Is important for me,so how these two compare? Do all AF-S lenses works well adapted?
AFS lenses work great on FTZ. I haven’t compared AF, both work great but Z5 may - or may not - be faster. EOS is probably smarter. Real question is Nikon is far more expensive.
Be warned that a good portion of the lenses Nikon sells today are not AFS and will not autofocus on the Z5. See www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm With Canon, everything since 1987 work perfectly on an adapter. I prefer the Canon system given the choice. It’s so much more than just camera specs.
Hi Ken, great! Thinking to move from D750 to Z5... (or Z50)... I have some doubts about 1,7 cropped 4k video... I would appreciate your kind poit of view... Many thanks
SEEING THIS REVIEWS OF MY BELOVED NIKONS im thinking wait one generation more for jump to Z system, or not. Autofocus its very important, i have hope in the nikon+red fusion in terms of sensors. Im wait for a Nikon with 16 stops of dinamic range and competent autofocus. The Z Mount its the best mount potentially or im in a error?. Thanks. Sorry for my bad english im fron Argentina.
Nikon mirrorless AF is poor. I suggest going instead to Canon who has great AF today. If you get a Z body you’ll discover so much isn’t really compatible from your DSLRs that you’ll wonder up buying all new Z equipment, and will think back to today when you should have just moved to Canon since you’ll be rebuying everything again. Nikon’s AF is poor, try all the brands as I do and it becomes more obvious. See www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/z/z8.htm#af Thanks!
Fantastic and very thorough review! Ken, I would like to ask if the EVF on a Z6 II is better than a Z5's in regards to low light situations, like photographing the milky way. As you show us at 17:00 it is really difficult to focus on the Z5 and the image quality through the EVF is really crappy. Are things better on a Z6 or a Z6 II? Would you suggest sticking to a DSLR for astrophotography?
I see quite many times that you said the benefit of the built-in flash to the photo. The easiest way to compare if the flash wasn't fired is you SHOT the same pic flash off and show them besides. Easy!!!
Ken, I recently sold my D750 and D7500 with plans to purchase a Z6iii. After first reading your reviews of the Z5 and then watching this video I just purchased a use Z5 with 25 actuation for $875 out the door.
I think the same as you. I do prefer the Canon R6 over this Nikon Z5. BUT, in my case that I am on a budget and want to start shotting with Full Frame for making a living, I think this Z5 is the way to go. No everyone can START with a camera that is $2,500. The Z5 if half of the price and represents a great value for the money. I would like to upgrade to Canon though once I start making good money.
@@KenRockwellTV but doesnt the z5 have more features over the rp? genuine question, im looking for my first full frame mirrorless mostly as a stills workhorse but decent 1080p 60fps video is fine
More features mean nothing if the basics are not there. Features do not ensure great images. So don't fall for the features manufacturers try to push. Does it have a good sensor? Does it have reliable AF? How does it perform with the glass you have? If you need it to work with an adapter, does it work flawlessly?
@@alwynsmit3546 even Z50 with its crop sensor has better AF and image quality than RP, stop this fanboy nonsense, Z5 is essentially better camera than RP and is edging Canon R also.
I know you like the EOS RP, would the Z5 be a better camera if you want to have the ability to use to largest range of lens from both canon and nikon? and esp for someone who has a decent collection of nikon lens (even if the ftz adaptor doesn't work that well for older nikon lens)? I have a D750
I don’t encourage adapting lenses. Ideally pick a brand and stick with it for bodies and lenses. Over time you will eventually wind up buying all the native lenses to replace whatever you adapt, so unless your d750 lenses are the latest afp or afs lenses that work well on the FTZ (full explanation at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm). Adapting Canon lenses to Nikon is silly, if you want to shoot Canon lenses well then. Get a Canon camera. Adapters seem interesting online but never work as well as just using the native mount lenses. Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV Where can i find that Megadap Nikon F to Z adapter? ;). I got about $3k worth of nikon EF lens. Many of them are of the non built in autofocus motor tyoe ;( as well as several manual only lens...
@@TheTuffOnesit's okay, it all depends on your use. I eventually went for a second hand z6. With latest firmware it's a good deal for the price in my opinion
They take the same pictures. If you have to ask, they are the same thing. Only the specs are different for people who'd rather look at specs than photographs. @@TheTuffOnes
Never tried it with Nikon. It’s a pain for pedagogical use, not for my style of shooting. Here’s it in detail on the Canon www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm#focusstacking
You have to open and close the diaphragm manually for focus and then to shoot. The finder gets dim at small apertures because the camera has no data coupling to the lens to have any idea where it’s set. Program and shutter priority modes don’t work. There is little EXIF data and the list goes on. In short, manual lenses work way better on old cameras but the Z system has left them to rot.
Thanks@@KenRockwellTV. But all other mirror less cameras work that way, not only Nikon. So should I understand your comment "they (manual lenses) do not work well on this camera, forget about it" as "forget about mirror less camera for manual lenses"? :D
Never heard anyone having a problem with that. Turn IMAGE REVIEW ON and it should pop up fast. Be sure problem isn’t not having. Image review ON and not a problem with which finder it real LCD is active.
@@KenRockwellTV thank you for the answer, everything is on but the image takes approximately 1 second to pop, you clic it's goes to the live view and after that it shows the image
@@krranjit 5fps is not great, however mirrorless camera's are more accurate in depth, so more shots will be in focus, unless you want to go thru 25 of the "same ish" photos to edit, and waste time, haha well then have fun. I got pics of my dog in run, with a D5500, wasn't super easy but I got it. 5fps is good enough for avg joes
Hey Ken, it's me again and I have another question. How worse is Z5 low light EVF in comparison with Z6? Some people say there is huge difference, but I have never seen the one from Z6.
I forget, see the two reviews at KenRockwell.com where I go into all the details. It also depends on how low is your light. If it’s light enough to read a book they’re all fine. If it’s outside at night where you’d use a tripod, most Mirrorless are pretty bad - but few people shoot like that.
Thanks @@KenRockwellTV. I do not worry too much as I already bought Z5. I was just curious to know how bad is Z5 EVF in comparison with Z6 that makes people so upset :) Thanks for your review and responses.
Ken Rockwell, if anything, the point of going mirrorless is to LOSE WEIGHT. This is a whopping 675g as opposed to 485g in the EOS RP. Why would one pick this up over an actual DSLR or over an EOS RP that weighs only as much as a Fuji X100V?
Beats me! People get lulled into a false sense of expecting old lenses they already own to work well on the FTZ adapter and get sucked into buying more of this Nikon gear rather than getting with the program and taking this chance to upgrade to Canon. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/index.htm
Yes, always has been. Canon has a much better system with better support and a brighter future. See also www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm thanks!
@@joeeley5354 no one pays me anything to make these videos; that’s why I can say things so directly. I don’t have any camera makers to worry about ticking off by being honest, unlike magazines and commercial websites with camera ads that will never just come right out and say which brand is best today. Thanks!
Excellent review thanks. Which one would you recommend for family kids an a little landscape travel? Z5 kit lens or a6400 18-135? They are the same price in greece 1199€
The 18-135 is much more useful than the 24-50. Go Sony, but not before you look at my favorite the Canon EOS RP www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm. Not sure how well RP tracks focus on moving kids; the 6400 might be better.
Question for you on time exposures for this camera, and Z6 and 7IIs as well. I do a lot of time night exposures. I get that if you are by the camera you would hear the shutter closing. But lets say you are at a distance from the camera, doing light painting/flashing how can you tell the exposure is over? On my DSLRs I will often get close enough to took through the viewfinder without touching it to see if the mirror is still up. Does the EVF come back on, or can you program it to have the image display which is temp at best? Trying to determine how you can tell short of touching the camera in case the exposure is not finished.
@@phantombloodsoulmy understanding is that the full frame D780 will work better in low light. Bigger sensors are more sensitive. The liveview on the D780 is also superior because it has phase detect AF just like a Z6.
@@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548what about hand holding the d780 in lower light (not nighttime, but say in a relatively dark forest during the day where shutter speed might be 1/20)- would the vr in the f mount lenses do a pretty good job, similar to the ibis in the z5?
You lost me. S good shooter can get great photos with any sort of camera. Better cameras make it faster and easier, but in the hands of a virtuoso the results are the same. Thanks!
You don’t have to rotate your D90 images because 99% of all software and browsers read the rotation flag and display them vertically. The problem is the odd price of software or internet browser or yearbook company whose software doesn’t. Therefore I worry about this and rotate my pixels later using the lossless rotate command in Photo Mechanic at camerabits.com thanks!
Ken has been super helpful to me in choosing gear over the years and I really like the historical record his website still is. Loving the move to UA-cam. I have even donated on his website to Ken.
Just bought the 24/200 4-6.3 vr for my Z5. helpfull info which no one will test. I mounted the lens and proceeded to accidently dropped the whole rig (never dropped a camera in my life). good fall off a table and on to hardwood floor. no issues, checked it all out. good for you Nikon!
Same tech image quality. Difference is in usability, frame rate and your choice of viewfinder - which are totally opposite. See my d780 review www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d780.htm and also see it on UA-cam.
Needing to upgrade my D600 at some point to mirrorless full frame the inability to shoot with manual Nikon ai/ais mount glass with proper exposure preview... because the FTZ adaptor is holding the aperture blades open all the time (like an SLR/DSLR with an OVFnot an EVF)...was almost a deal breaker...!!!!! and then with a little head scratching... I realised that there is a solution... although unfortunately it means spending even more money (around £45 on top of your new camera and FTZ Adaptor noooo) on a K&F Concept Nikon ai to Z Adaptor.... with manual control of the aperture open and close lever.... to get the same experience that we all Love of using manual lenses mounted on any other mirrorless camera....!!!!! Just Please tell me that it doesn't treat af lenses in the same way, not giving you real time aperture and exposure preview (instead insisting on acquiring focus wide open like a SLR/DSLR and resulting in a really disjointed experience with no real advantage over an OVF) which with the ability to compose the entire shot in the viewfinder before taking the exposure is the very strength of mirrorless cameras that we've all been waiting for and enjoying (with fuji etc and manual glass) for the past ten years. Would be Amazing if Nikon could put a constant/manual aperture mode into the next firmware for the Z5 Z6 Z7 and Z50 to make it a much more seamless experience without having to spend an extra £50 on a non smart adaptor in order to use Manual Ai/Ais and D glass.... or a mode to get the same experience and full realtime image preview with f/g mount lenses.... Be really grateful if anyone could chime in on how the Z cameras behave with F/G and Z lenses in this regard as this could also be another deal breaker as well.... even though AF speed might take a hit by not being able to focus wide open and then close down for each individual exposure.... Be really grateful for any advice or if any one else could chime in and shed any light on this..... Till then I'll have to stick with my Beloved but ageing XT1+ speed booster and beautiful selection of manual glass as a mirrorless counterpart to my D600.... and poss hold off on a Z50 as a mirrorless stopgap to be able to use all of my Nikon af - F/G glass.... till I can afford a Z6 as a replacement....Thanks Chris :)
Forget manual lenses on the Z. Instead go Canon with any basic $15 Chinese adapter. It’s still a pain; if you shoot these lenses stick with a DSLR. Full details at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm
Finally got the Z5 with that tiny little kit lens. My first ever foray into full frames, jumping from that entry level APS-C Canon I've been using for years.....so far I have been astonished with the quality of the photos, especially so as this is the quality from a kit lens, not even from an 'S' lens. With IBIS and weather proofing and practically the same magnesium build and button layout without skimping on any single button from the Z6/7, this camera is a bargain! Loved your review thoroughly! Subbed! Cheers from India!
@@KenRockwellTV i will keep that in mind. Will add all those adapter in my cart. Thanks for the insights. I never could have guessed that a single camera system could be made this versatile.
Much more thorough in user-oriented terms than other reviews I've seen and read. The number of variables inherent in digital photography is overwhelming. Given that most "reviews" are crypto-sales pitches for this or that product, this is helpful to the struggling neophyte.
I am loving this. I have been using D5600’s for their touch screen performance and battery life and their compact light weight. They are pretty disposable but much tougher than they look. I’ve only broken one in the last two years. This looks like a perfect time to swap to mirrorless. I fancy the 28-200 and maybe the newest wide to telephoto zoom. Do I need fx? I honestly don’t know. No built in flash, I use the little Nikon flash Ken does with the flip up head and super fast recycling.
Be careful, the Z6 and Z7 had AWFUL autrofocus for action. It may be time to step up to Canon Mirrorless; the Canon EOS Canon EOS R5 and Canon EOS Canon EOS R6 are the best on earth www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/index.htm thanks!
You mention Canon quite a bit, but the Canon equivalent to this seems to be the R8, which has only one SD card slot and an electronic first curtain shutter. The Z5 has a mechanical shutter, electronic first curtain, and electronic shutter.
This isn't like cars, where different makers all make very close to the same thing. Nikon and Canon are quite different. The Z5 is old and heavy (670g), having come out in 2020. R8 is a much smaller, just 461g, (⅓ lighter!) and more compact camera and came out only a year ago. The Z8 has no mechanical shutter as those have been made obsolete by the newest sensors; mechanical shutters are a hold-over from before sensors could read-out all the data to let them work with flash; R8 has both first-curtain and fully electronic shutters. Thanks! full reviews: kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/r8.htm and www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z5.htm
Thanks for the review! I just got Z5 and it's darkest time of the year. Options are flash or high ISO. I prefer off-camera flash. Best camera I've ever used.
@@KenRockwellTV What are you thanking @mizachs for? You tried to push Canon over Nikon and he bought Nikon. Your video starts out AWESOME but suddenly you dip over to Canon and start pushing it. Your video would have been GREAT if you just stuck to the points and not suddenly interjected Canon.
By far the only camera guru who doesn’t push the agenda of buying a new camera or lens. Quick question though, i am new to family photoshoots and event photography. I have a canon M50, and i want to upgrade to full frame camera. Should i go for the Rp or Z5? I believe the canon R lens are superior and here to stay.
Thank you!!! I prefer Canon. Love the RP www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm for its practicality and while you’re at it, the RF 24-105 STM or 24-240.
RP is not good. I had the RP and quickly got rid of it. It’s lacking in many areas compared to the Z5. DPReview compared the two check that out for an unbiased opinion and they didn’t even mention the Z5 has in body image stabilization and RP doesn’t. Z5 $999 right now until end of weekend.
@@avikmajumdar1791 Canon is ahead with R5. Sony is ahead with the A1. Nikon hasn’t released cameras in those higher segments yet. However the Eos R, RP, A7iii and A7Riv are not better at AF than Z6/Z7 ii especially after the recent firmware updates. When there’s complaints about the Z af it’s always with full auto (camera picks subject) continuous tracking of fast moving small subjects like birds, but guess what RP, R A7iii etc aren’t great at that either. I shoot professional sports with R6 and Z6ii. Both get great results. Eye af for both are same and super accurate. R6 is better with full auto tracking when I don’t want to think at all, but that camera also has drawbacks - worse battery life, worse plastic like build quality, I find Z lenses to be better than RF, for AF-S single point Nikon is more accurate. Z series has better files (color, dynamic range etc), ergonomics yet people only talk about AF.
Shame on you Ken. It’s not a pro camera it’s a budget version of the Mid level Nikon offerings. Why even mention the R6 at all, focus our attention to the cameras at hand, the budget full frame offering from Nikon. It seems you did not find much wrong with this little beauty. Shame on you. Advertising for Cannon off Nikon’s back ”Great little camera” to just upgrade to Cannon. People just want to know about the products on the tables and how it pro forms
@@KenRockwellTV What you smokin' Ken? there is nothing about the RP that's better than the Z5. Feel - no, Image Quality - Definetley a big no, Auto Focus - No, Viewfinder - No, LCD Screen - No, SD Cards - No, Dynamic Range - No. Battery life - no - granted there are a wider selection of RF lenses for now but the good glass is very expensive and the 24-105 you call out in the video - apart from the metal mount is absolute rubbish - terribly soft anywhere outside the centre of the lens to the point of being unusable between 24mm and 70mm, dull and uncontrasty with a slow slow F7.1 at the long end.
Yes, exactly what I thought. He started out well showing the fantastic images it’s handling on point to slating it with Cannon’s offerings. Shame on him. I wonder if he is payed or affiliated by other brands?
24-105 is coming to the Z line, at some point. Hopefully it will be in the batch of 12 lenses Nikon is due to announce in 2021, although it will be a n f/4 I think, at least to start... they might do a 2.8 but I heard it was going to be an f/4.
Why waste time waiting? Geeze, Canon has a slew of RF lenses and with such a small budget as Nikon slowly continues its exit from the consumer camera market you should upgrade to Canon. All of Canon’s new and used 24-105 work flawlessly on Canon’s Mirrorless. So what is the question? Here’s what you can get new today www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/lenses/index.htm and all the ef lenses also work flawlessly. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/index.htm#24 thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV Now that's its a good 2 years later from when this video was posted, perhaps maybe doing an update. It seems that Nikon has come a long way in 2 years. The Zf, Z8, z9, (Canon also released the same crappy 24-50 lens that Nikon did). Not to mention Canon has pretty much locked out most third party lenses or lens support (minus those with dumb adapters). So an update overall would be interesting to see.
This is such a good review. You are hilarious. I have a Nikon D3100 and I've been using it for years. I want to upgrade but I have no clue what to upgrade to. This has really helped me narrow down my options.
Hi! There’s nothing wrong with the d3100. If you want something newer, I’d look at Canon for Mirrorless rather than Nikon. Check out the EOS R50 www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/r50.htm or R10; full info at that link on everything. Just keeping it real. Thanks!!
Maybe, but for full frame I’d get the even better Canon EOS RP www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm and rf 24-105 for less money. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/lenses/24-105mm-stm.htm
@@KenRockwellTV Thank you for the replying, Here in Cyprus ( European Union) we have different prices. Now they cut a little bit the prices: Nikon z50 16-55 + ftz adapter - 1090 EUR, CANON RP 24-105 = 1199 EUR , and Z5 with 24-50mm F.4-6.3 kit 1249 EUR. Not such a big of a difference. What will be better than? As RP is loosing it's dual autofocus when in 4k and also it does not have an image stabilization in body as nikon.. Please..
The fact you can use cannon lenses and other different brands with adapters cause of the large z mount is fuckin cool to me. The raw files actually look better at high isos especially after a little noise reduction the jpegs seem to be smoothed out a lil more because of the camera reducing noise
Good real world review, as usual. However a comparo of the Z5 to the RP (vs R6) may appeal to some of us Nikon guys with shorter pockets. Either way, new lenses are likely in the mix for those not invested in Canon. Z-lenses seem to make excellent images.
Hi Sergei, my Z5 measures 670g with battery and card; the Z6 II weighs 705g with battery and card; the Z7 II 694g. All these are my actual measured weights on my scale, reported to a tenth of a gram in each review at KenRockwell.com. Not sure where you see that the Z5 is heavier; I bet you're comparing the weight of the Z5 with card and battery to a stripped (empty) weight for the others. THANKS!!!
Thank you for your kind review, while I know the Nikon Z6 on 2nd hand market is now at the same price as Z5 in my area, I still may pick up Z5 just for the dual card slots and the mode dial user accessibility alone. If I missout the top LCD, I can just pick up my D750 again since I'm in no way selling that beast. I was about to pick up Canon RF's ecosystem but I just can't move on from SOOC images from Nikon, it's just something else for me, I'm just a hobbyist with modelling photography sidejobs and not in any way professional. In the end I have a D3300 if I want to have fun and not worry about weight, D750 and Z5 if someone decides to call my service. I still keep my F mount too, 105mm f1.4E optics is just out of this world. Once again, thank you Ken.
Nikon really kicked Canon's ass this time, especially the EOS RP. For 100€ more (in 🇩🇪), you get IBIS, weather sealing, dual SD slots and joystick. Although I'm a longtime Canon fan, this Z5 really makes me seriously consider switching to Nikon.
I use the Z5 with (very) old Nikon (and Canon and Olympus OM and Zeiss ) so called vintage lenses using cheap contactless adapters for about 50 dollars and the camera works well with all those lenses (about 10).
I remember shooting TriX at EI 3200 using Acufine or Diafine to push it. Grain like walnuts but that was incredibly fast, EI 3200. So, loosing a little detail on the clock....haha. Still better than it was.
Actually, we never lost detail with faster film. We had loads of grain, but the detail was there and even enhanced perceptually by the grain. Modern noise reduction is what makes crazy hugh ISOs possible, but at the expensive of detail. This is one of the magic of film: the fact that we still have all the detail along with the grain. I'm surprised some new-age nuts don't advocate shooting digital at high ISOs without noise reduction. Thanks!
I noticed you mentioning (quite a few times) that you didn’t know the reason why certain functions or features on this camera exist.
1) The webcam function is intended for people who want the “professional” video quality as well as the different focal lengths or use of shallow depth of field while doing a live stream, interview, conference calls, etc. Which is not only useful in the UA-cam era, but especially so in the Covid era.
2) Bluetooth 5.0 is a big step up from Bluetooth 4.2 due to its instantaneous pairing, more reliable connection, and better data transfer. No more issues with trying to get it to connect, sudden disconnects, or slow transfer speeds.
3) 16x9 crops are useful for people who are shooting images to be used as video thumbnails.
Agreed. 16/9 is something best cropped later in production. Thanks!
The nikon video/photo switch is so important for hybrid work - just revisited Taylor Jackson's R6 review and the way it switches is pretty useless for that type of work.
@@terrywbreedlove yeah, that’s why any of the crop modes exist, really. It makes no sense for Ken to praise other crop modes then say that 16:9 for video thumbnails is “better done later in post production” 🤷🏼♂️
@@KenRockwellTV All crops are better done in post. What are you talking about?
@@kylefraser6456 then why does he continually say he prefers to have it right out of the camera. 16:9 would be out of the camera. Frankly it’s just a lot of blah blah blah
Not sure why you keep recommending the Canon RP over the z5, I've used both and hands down the Nikon is the better camera. The only reason to buy the RP is price.
We all have our preferences,. Here's why I prefer Canon www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm Thanks!
Agreed. The z5 is literally better in every way
He’s so anal about being able to use retro lenses with autofocus.
The RP is absolute trash compared to the Z5 lol.
Yeah kerockwell sold out to cannon
Nikon Z5 been a favourite of mine since it first came out. It is simple, works, really a photographer's camera, with the photos it takes.
Bingo!!!
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If I were to reply with anything, as a professional, it wouldn't be "bingo".
That shows that you have contempt for @timroberts6828's choice to prefer Nikon. The comment "bingo" comes off as unprofessional and sarcastic.
Bingo! Bingo means on target, perfect in its execution and expression - entirely professional. Thank you!@@TheTuffOnes
@@KenRockwellTV Bingo!
@@KenRockwellTV BINGO!
Hi Ken, I’m just wondering which Canon camera you’d recommend for an entry-level mirrorless at a similar price point (
I LOVE the RP www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm ! Thanks
I am really interested in the Z5. Quick question, though. I have sensitivity to the OLED flicker of the electronic viewfinder- it causes eye strain and headaches.
An alternative is to shoot with the rear LCD instead of the viewfinder. Do you see that type of shooting as a hindrance- enough of a problem that it might be better to go with a full frame DSLR instead to have the optical viewfinder?
I’ve played with one of these and it seems ok shooting that way- just not sure if it would really be a problem longer term in my weekly landscape shooting that I do.
The whole point of these cameras is the EVF. If you’re not going to use it, then of course it’s better to use a DSLR. If you want to use just the little screen on the back, use an iPhone. Try the Z5 evf however, I’ve never notice and flicker and I often can see it if it were there.
Z5 is an old but good model as Nikons go, but don’t forget to look at Canon. I prefer the R6 II or any of their APS-C models. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/index.htm
Thanks Ken. I have always appreciated you sharing your wisdom. I have learned a lot from you over the years. I appreciate your stance on Nikon vs Canon. There weren’t enough negatives in this camera to move me to Canon this time. I hope Nikon continues to find their way. I think the Z mount offers a lot of opportunities. Since I moved up from DX, I don’t have legacy glass and am moving mostly to Z mount. I have been impressed so far. One thing I will say about the Raw vs Jpg discussion is that people pay lots of money for these great processors in the cameras and don’t really utilize what they provide. They’ll take a Raw file and do the same things the camera would do, and end up exporting out a JPG anyway. LOL.
thanks!
Solid review as always!
Also read the review from your site.
Great stuff! 👍
Thank you!!!
can i use a sigma art 18-35mm lens on the Nikoz Z5 with the FTZ adapter?
Maybe, maybe not. You’d have to try it yourself. Sometimes off brands just don’t work; every lens is different. If it focuses with a screw head on the mount driven by an in-camera motor, it won’t autofocus on the Z5. If the lens has an internal focus motor, it might. It’s hard to say as not everything works as we’d like when you mix brands. Thanks!
Right now I have a Z50, it’s takes great pictures but just feels like toy, no IBIS, no need for video because I find it easier on my iPhone pro. I will miss the pop up flash but I’ve always wanted full frame so I can use lenses for what they are. I’m debating whether or not to move up to a Z5, thoughts?
Stick with the Z50 and 16-50. Feeling like a toy makes it more fun and you’ll get better pictures. If you really want to step up, step up to Canon, and in nikon you can pay more, but the pictures don’t get any better. Hint: I only use dedicated video cameras or my iPhone for video. I’ve never been happy with the performance of Mirrorless or DSLRs for video. Thanks! PS : big sale on the Z5 if you really want to invest more deeply in nikon. Even I’m tempted by this link with also my favorite bag and favorite Z lens www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1624461-REG/nikon_nikon_z_5_mirrorless.html/BI/287/KBID/1037
@@KenRockwellTV which Canon would you recommend in the same price range as the Z5?
I love the Canon RP. Super inexpensive. The Z5 is very nice, too, just part of an inferior system from an inferior company (Nikon) who dumps production overseas to save themselves cost and has much poorer support than Canon. See my real Z5 review at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z5.htm and RP at www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm the Z5 is great, just not a fan of the nikon system today.
@@KenRockwellTV the one thing that I wish I could have is a full frame with a pop up flash. Even though it’s weak on the Z50 it’s very convenient. Switching to Canon after 40 years of Nikon would be a big change.
@@maeu59 Yes, mirrorless is also a big change. Nikon has never been a leader in mirrorless, and is no long a leader as it was when I bought into it 40 years ago. Today, they're number three. I'd consider Canon before getting too stuck in Nikon Z. If you do stay back in Nikon, I love my tiny SB-400 flash www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb400.htm
Getting into shooting apparel for website product images and need good color representation and was directed to this Nikon Z5. Do y'all agree this is great for that?
Anything from Canon or Nikon will do very well for this. Every model from each brand has the same look as every other model. While there are differences between brands, within any one brand all the models match pretty well for color.
Wow! Really appreciate your excellent review. Very helpful and one of the best on You Tube by far.
Thank you!
Loving that Corvette picture. Great shot
Grant car! Thanks.
Those were the days when US cars used to be great.
I have the Z50 and want a Nikon FF camera and which choice is the best? For not breaking the bank im thinking of the Z6 or Z5. Im used to Nikons DSLR and have alot of F lenses. Perhaps the Z5 is the better choice for me?
I do like the Z5, but prefer anything else from Canon. I have complete written reviews of everything at KenRockwell.com. Thanks!
PS - many F lenses will not autofocus on the adapter. See www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm
You said that when using time shots there was no warning light. But I noticed that the green memory light was flashing when recording. I would have thought you would be able to see it at night? Once it stopped time's up .
Ray from UK , If wrong I'm sorry but I'm new to all this .
I can’t recall. I was talking about long time still exposures. Maybe it does write now and then, just can’t remember anything obvious and steady. This also changes with firmware.
I bought Z5 camera with 24-70 lens on Apr 2021. I want to know about the camera settings and shooting technics Sir. Thanks for your opinion about Z5.
Hi! See everything at my website at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z5.htm#usage also see my Z7 II guide from which many things may also apply www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z7-ii-users-guide.htm
Thank you this was a great video as I am so close to purchasing this camera in my budget. If I have only one lense to buy for it would you recommend the 24-50 or the lense that goes to 200?
I love the Z 24-200. It does everything. The 24-50 is tiny and fun, but limiting for me.
Good review on the Z5! I will probably pass on this camera, but it would make a nice travel kit. I shot a dance performance recently and my Z6 ll with the new battery grip was a great combo! The images were great, the AF using Auto Area AF was flawless and shooting in low light was a breeze. This is a big step up from the Z6.
That’s right. Z6 was awful and Z6 II finally almost what it should have been I’ve 2 years ago..thanks!
Nikon has the best color science, bar none, even Canon IMO.
@@stanobert3475 I have Canon R5 and Nikon Z7 for music photography (I'll trade my Z7 to whatever 45megapixel small Nikon comes out next but will keep R5 for good).. i would prefer to shoot Nikon, and definitely Nikon's better for landscapes, and certain acts (e,g. heavy metal, family fun park music etc) i really do prefer Nikon.. but.. Canon in music industry it's more accepted. People think I'm unusual to own both Canon and Nikon but they both have their uses. When I first got into serious photography 2007, I said "I'm going to only have Canon and Nikon - biggest companies (at that time) most stuff available cheap / 2nd hand!".
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So Ken, if I switch to mirrorless, which camera should I use? Cheers.
Depends on what you want to do, but go Canon. THe RP is the best compact, and the Canon EOS Canon EOS R6 best for sports and the Canon EOS Canon EOS R5 best for everything www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/index.htm
I'm intrigued by how Nikon expanded the number of non-CPU lens data slots; it makes me wonder if they're planning on releasing a more fully functional FTZ adapter later on. That would be consistent with their recent business model: give up old features for one or two cycles only to pay more to get them back later.
Ugh.
Thanks for the review. Great to finally see this one up close.
Time will tell - if Nikon is still in the consumer camera business in five years. Go Canon, everything works, today.
@@KenRockwellTV Seems that it will be ...
Ken, you are the real deal. Thank you for this review.
Can you do a follow up? Maybe a year working with this camera review?
Follow up would be the same. Best to spend my time on what’s new in a year. Thanks!!!
I recently got a Nikon Zf and I'm looking to aquire a second backup body, that's affordable and takes my Z mount lenses. Honestly, I’m leaning towards the Nikon Z5, but with the recent price drops the Z6ii is not much more and is appealing also. Nearly everyone I've spoken to who actually owns a Z5, LOVES it. I love my Zf, but I want something that will act as a more ergonomic and compact backup. I shoot portraits and headshots and an occasional family session. I don't need speed, and I don’t plan on doing video with this backup. I played with a Z5 in the store a bit and it felt really nimble and great to use. In use, I couldn’t really tell much difference between the Z5 and Z6ii. Both nice.
Would you recommend the Z5 as a backup to my Zf? I know it’s not as technically advanced or fast but I don’t care. One look at the files the Z5 creates and I’m sold. Would you recommend the Z5 even now in 2024?
Why a backup? Just bring an iPhone or spare battery. Barring that, yes, the Z5 is actually my favorite full frame Z camera.
@ it is??? For real? Why? I love that you are always the voice of dissent. I trust you. Re: Backup. More of a “One retro and one modern, same lenses, similar file output”. I want to be able to use both bodies on the same shoot, and not be able to see too much difference in the files.
Wow great review! I'm stuck between the Z5 and the Z6ii. Something is telling me to go 6ii, that in 3 years, it will still be a top body. But $800 less I could put that into better lenses. How would you look at it? More capable body or lower end body but paired with top glass?
I prefer Canon. I don’t suggest anyone buy into the Nikon system. In three years all of today’s digital cameras will have been forgotten. I prefer the Z5 from Nikon, but way prefer the Canon EOS RP overall, or for action, the Canon EOS R5 or Canon EOS R6. Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV i dont understand how wd you prefer RP over Z5 coz RP doesn't have 2 card slots, IBIS, better ergonomics, 4fps instead of 1- 1/2, better Dynamic Range..?
@@KenRockwellTV i used to be a nikon shooter for qround 7 years and had d3100 & d750 for 5 years then i quit weddings then i sold my all nikon gear and bought Canon 90D for everyday use i really liked the videos out of it and colors for jpegs are good too but overall IQ i didn't expect from it even at lower iso 500 i saw grain in shadow if light is proper then its super sharp but in shadows it sucks, now may be i ll buy Z5 for DR and handling and dual card slots which canon dont have in that price range. Always love to see your review before buying. Thanks
Hi ken can you review the viltrox NFZ adapter its way cheap than FTZ adapter and also does YN lens works 🤣 because thats i have
The problem with those junk brand adapters is that they usually work, but not always. It’s always a Sceince experiment with then whether or not a certain lens will work or not, or how well. You spend more time updating firmware for compatibility bugs than shooting - and it still lacks an autofocus motor, so it’s not for me.
Realize I am zombie threading this, but I have a D5000 I have been using for years and have plenty of Nikon DX lenses (Nikon and Sigma). I am trying to decide it it is worth starting over and switching or if there is enough utility in the older DX lenses (understanding this is an FX camera) to use via the FTZ adapter. I shoot a mix odf still and sports (kids sporting events).
FTZ doesn’t work with every lens, and even if it does, it’s bigger and clumsier than just getting new lenses. Once you do that, you may as well swap brands. I prefer anything from Canon better than this Nikon. Thanks!!!
See also kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm
Oh crap - don’t use DX lenses on an FX camera like this : it throws away most of the Z5’s pixels cropping to DX! Just go Canon R10 and rfs 18-150mm and you’re done. See www.kenrockwell.com/tech/crop-factor.htm
www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/r10.htm and www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/lenses/18-150mm.htm
I was using your site review for Nikon D7000 and Nikkor DX lenses years ago, nice to see your review in UA-cam, as always great review
Thank you!!!!
Which is better for autofocus Ken, the z5 or Canon please? I am after sharp images from non moving objects.
Well, the Canon EOS R6 and Canon EOS R5 are far superior, while the Z5 is better than the Nikon Z6 and Z7. All depends on which Canon to which you compare. See all my explicit reviews at KenRockwell.com
For things that hold still, they are all as good.
Thanks Ken
I forgot to add I am wanting a lightweight full frame camera as I have shoulder issues.
The RP and Z5 are both very small. Canon makes a exceptionally light 24-105mm STM lens vs Nikons shorter lightweight lenses www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/lenses/24-105mm-stm.htm
thank you for great video. I am a mid range photographer, not an amateur and not a professional as well. You still recommend me z5 or z6 ıı? or you recommend me canon? I do look for something price performance, and very appreciated for your answer.
I recommend Canon. The Z5 is nice, while the ergonomics of the Z6, Z7 and z9 are inferior to Canon. Ergonomics are critical in getting the camera out of the way and letting me just get the shot. Thanks. See also www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm
@@KenRockwellTV many thanks, last questions. I want to move up Full Frame scale. Which models in Canon you recommend me? up to 1500 USD and up to 2500 USD. You recommend the new mirrorless ones or EF mount classical types? Thank you very much!!
If you want to spend $2,500 then the R6 mark II just came out and is state of the art. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/r6-ii.htm DSLRs take the same pictures, but will most likely depreciate faster when you go to sell them in a few years, so the R6 II will likely cost less to own over time. The R6 II is great for everything including sprts and action. The RP is less than half the price but not fast enough for action. If you’re shootong only portrait and landscape etc then check it out as full frames best bargain www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm
@@KenRockwellTV do you think in a low light situation, eos rp and r6 ii take the same image? I guess iso, ibis systems and developed sensors add image quality over rp.
Ken can you give your opinion D750 used or Z5? Coming from the old D7000. I have issues with the D7000, even after fine tuning and sending the body back for repairs.
Are the issues your own error? If so, new camera isn’t likely to change anything. The D750 and Z5 are night and day different. The DSLR handles much faster; choose it for moving subjects. The Mirrorless is only for things that hold still and takes much more tine to set up snd adjust - but you can see everything in the finder. If you already have lenses that may change your ideas. Avoid DX lensss on the d750 or Z5. They each use very different lenses. If you go Z5 that’s a completely different system from the D750 and you should consider this as a good time to upgrade to Canon because you’ll wind up buying everything new for the Z5 - so may as well do the same for Canon does this help? Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV Thank you for taking the time to reply. I have been shooting with Nikon since 1984. I am 100% sure it is not user issue since when I use other cameras (Friends D500) I do not have this issue. I even took the D7000 to Nikon for service as you can clearly see the focus point in the Nikon software for the image but the focus is off. I had subsequently bought a Sony A6000 awhile back to use instead as I no longer had confidence in the D7000. I mainly have FX lenses with only 2 x DX lenses. Since I don't have too many DX lenses and more FX based ones I am leaning towards a FX body. Yes after watching your videos I understand I would have to get the Z mount lenses. The only thing is the EOS RP might be due for a replacement. Yes I am not convinced that I should be going mirrorless since that would make all my F mount lenses useless. I know the D780 is very decent, but I think the D750 will be more than enough camera for me. I was also considering the D810, but the D750 would be newer. Yes your reply helped solidify my thoughts.
I am still torn between this and the Canon EOS RP. I feel like I should go with this one, but something is telling me I may be better off with Canon in the future. What to do???
Get the Canon. See also www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm it’s all the little things that make it obvious.
Ken has lost his mind. Nikon isn’t going anywhere and RF and Z ecosystems are comparable. RP is not good. I had the RP and quickly got rid of it for the R6. The RP is lacking in many areas compared to the Z5. DPReview compared the two check that out. Z5 dominates in all categories and they didn’t even mention the Z5 has in body image stabilization and RP doesn’t. Z5 $999 right now until end of weekend.
Hi Ken, good to watch your review on z5 before i deciding to get one. Fyi, i just got my z50 in last month. If i were to get one fx body, what do you think of z5 as compared to my z50? It is just a small upgrade that not worth it and better to stick on z50? Pls advice thanks.
*just fyi the reason i picked z50 previously was because i have several dx f-mount lenses and use it with ftz. Now thinking to get an ff body.
The Z5 will require all FX lenses, otherwise its a waste of time if you use the same DX lenses from your Z50 on it. It's a very similar camera; I don't understand all the camera buying on your part; what's wrong with your Z50? The Z5 id very similar. The Z50 is best with the tiny kit 16-50mm and maybe the kit 50-250mm and you're set for everything.
@@KenRockwellTV i understood z5 need fx lenses. What i meant was, if i were to buy z5, definitely i will buy some fx lenses, i will not use dx lenses on z5. I understood that z5 will automatically do the crop. In fact, i have some other f-mount fx lenses which i used ftz on z50. So, my thought was, if i plan to buy another body which is fx, is it worth to buy z5 since i have z50 (if you think the profile is almost the same as z5) or shall I go for higher like z6 or z7?
When the Z5 crops to DX it has much less resolution than the Z50. Don't do that. Why buy more stuff? I don't know what you're trying to shoot, and honestly I prefer the Z5 for its better controls and smaller size than the older Z6/Z7 II. The Z5 isn't very fast; but guess what, the AF of the Z6 II and Z7 II is also pretty bad even if they run at higher frame rates, so I'd stick with the great Z50. If you want a better camera, it's smarter to step up to the Canon EOS R6 or Canon EOS R5 than throw more money into Nikon. It's not 1983 anymore, Nikon hasn't been the top pro camera since the 1990s..
And what can someone buy to start in macrophotography or landscape photography in that order? And not a Canon. I dont like Canon. I was looking a the Z series, but ill like to ask, cause ther are few Z mount lenses and correct me if am wrong there is no Z mount macro 1:1 lens yet.
Correct. Nikon is now a small company with very limited resources and few lenses and not likely to have many new ones. Therefore you’re stuck with F mount macro lenses and the FTZ adapter. See www.kenrockwell.com/tech/best-macro-lenses.htm#nikon and know that only FX and afs lenses will work best on the FTZ and Z5. Get the 60mm f/2.8G or ideally 105/2.8 VR. I use the 200/4D every day, but the FTZ won’t work properly with it.
Hi Ken,thanks for your review. I am in between the Canon EOS rp and the Nikon z5. Autofocus Is important for me,so how these two compare? Do all AF-S lenses works well adapted?
AFS lenses work great on FTZ. I haven’t compared AF, both work great but Z5 may - or may not - be faster. EOS is probably smarter. Real question is Nikon is far more expensive.
See also www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm
Be warned that a good portion of the lenses Nikon sells today are not AFS and will not autofocus on the Z5. See www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm With Canon, everything since 1987 work perfectly on an adapter. I prefer the Canon system given the choice. It’s so much more than just camera specs.
No mention of the EyeAF.
Does it have EyeAF and does it work?
It has eye af end it does work
Yes, it does. Thanks!
Hi Ken, great! Thinking to move from D750 to Z5... (or Z50)... I have some doubts about 1,7 cropped 4k video... I would appreciate your kind poit of view... Many thanks
I use iPhone for video, interchangeable lens cameras like these are too Klunky for me. The z50 has slower autofocus than the d750, be careful.
@@KenRockwellTV very kind of you
SEEING THIS REVIEWS OF MY BELOVED NIKONS im thinking wait one generation more for jump to Z system, or not. Autofocus its very important, i have hope in the nikon+red fusion in terms of sensors. Im wait for a Nikon with 16 stops of dinamic range and competent autofocus. The Z Mount its the best mount potentially or im in a error?.
Thanks.
Sorry for my bad english im fron Argentina.
Nikon mirrorless AF is poor. I suggest going instead to Canon who has great AF today. If you get a Z body you’ll discover so much isn’t really compatible from your DSLRs that you’ll wonder up buying all new Z equipment, and will think back to today when you should have just moved to Canon since you’ll be rebuying everything again. Nikon’s AF is poor, try all the brands as I do and it becomes more obvious. See www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/z/z8.htm#af Thanks!
Fantastic and very thorough review! Ken, I would like to ask if the EVF on a Z6 II is better than a Z5's in regards to low light situations, like photographing the milky way. As you show us at 17:00 it is really difficult to focus on the Z5 and the image quality through the EVF is really crappy. Are things better on a Z6 or a Z6 II? Would you suggest sticking to a DSLR for astrophotography?
Yes, use a DSLR for Astro. Mirrorless varies, but they’re all pretty bad in pitch black. Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV Many thanks! I appreciate it!
I see quite many times that you said the benefit of the built-in flash to the photo. The easiest way to compare if the flash wasn't fired is you SHOT the same pic flash off and show them besides. Easy!!!
Easy, yes. Thanks!
Ken, I recently sold my D750 and D7500 with plans to purchase a Z6iii. After first reading your reviews of the Z5 and then watching this video I just purchased a use Z5 with 25 actuation for $875 out the door.
Yes! Thanks!
I think the same as you. I do prefer the Canon R6 over this Nikon Z5. BUT, in my case that I am on a budget and want to start shotting with Full Frame for making a living, I think this Z5 is the way to go. No everyone can START with a camera that is $2,500. The Z5 if half of the price and represents a great value for the money. I would like to upgrade to Canon though once I start making good money.
Go Canon. Long term or short, it’s a better camera. I prefer the EOS RP for less money www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV but doesnt the z5 have more features over the rp? genuine question, im looking for my first full frame mirrorless mostly as a stills workhorse but decent 1080p 60fps video is fine
More features mean nothing if the basics are not there. Features do not ensure great images. So don't fall for the features manufacturers try to push. Does it have a good sensor? Does it have reliable AF? How does it perform with the glass you have? If you need it to work with an adapter, does it work flawlessly?
@@alwynsmit3546 even Z50 with its crop sensor has better AF and image quality than RP, stop this fanboy nonsense, Z5 is essentially better camera than RP and is edging Canon R also.
@@Blitz_Shorts why, just because you say so? Nikon is behind Canon & Sony on AF. Fact. The only fanboy here is you.
It’s 3 years old. Why aren’t there new option? Even my old d80 had a flash
Nikon has nowhere near as many options as Canon or Sony, each of which are much larger companies with more resources for new camera models.
I know you like the EOS RP, would the Z5 be a better camera if you want to have the ability to use to largest range of lens from both canon and nikon? and esp for someone who has a decent collection of nikon lens (even if the ftz adaptor doesn't work that well for older nikon lens)? I have a D750
I don’t encourage adapting lenses. Ideally pick a brand and stick with it for bodies and lenses. Over time you will eventually wind up buying all the native lenses to replace whatever you adapt, so unless your d750 lenses are the latest afp or afs lenses that work well on the FTZ (full explanation at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm). Adapting Canon lenses to Nikon is silly, if you want to shoot Canon lenses well then. Get a Canon camera. Adapters seem interesting online but never work as well as just using the native mount lenses. Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV Where can i find that Megadap Nikon F to Z adapter? ;). I got about $3k worth of nikon EF lens. Many of them are of the non built in autofocus motor tyoe ;( as well as several manual only lens...
There is none yet. Forget older Nikon af lenses, the megadap adapters that do exist don’t work all that well in reality.
Or more correctly, forget Mirrorless with older af and afd lenses. Use them on a Nikon DSLR on which they work soooooo much better.
Hi Ken, do you think it's worth spending the extra bucks on the Z5 to go up to full frame in comparison to the cheaper Z50?
No. It’s the same thing.
@@TheTuffOnesit's okay, it all depends on your use. I eventually went for a second hand z6. With latest firmware it's a good deal for the price in my opinion
They take the same pictures. If you have to ask, they are the same thing. Only the specs are different for people who'd rather look at specs than photographs.
@@TheTuffOnes
Good day, Ken...hope this finds you and yours doing well!
I recently traded in my D7500 plus two lenses (and a wee bit of cash) for a "used" (lol,
Never tried it with Nikon. It’s a pain for pedagogical use, not for my style of shooting. Here’s it in detail on the Canon www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm#focusstacking
Hey Ken, you said manual lenses do not work well on this camera. What did you mean?
You have to open and close the diaphragm manually for focus and then to shoot. The finder gets dim at small apertures because the camera has no data coupling to the lens to have any idea where it’s set. Program and shutter priority modes don’t work. There is little EXIF data and the list goes on. In short, manual lenses work way better on old cameras but the Z system has left them to rot.
Thanks@@KenRockwellTV. But all other mirror less cameras work that way, not only Nikon. So should I understand your comment "they (manual lenses) do not work well on this camera, forget about it" as "forget about mirror less camera for manual lenses"? :D
why hasn't anyone mentioned the latency between taking a photo and displaying it on the screen, is there a way to fix this?
Never heard anyone having a problem with that. Turn IMAGE REVIEW ON and it should pop up fast. Be sure problem isn’t not having. Image review ON and not a problem with which finder it real LCD is active.
@@KenRockwellTV thank you for the answer, everything is on but the image takes approximately 1 second to pop, you clic it's goes to the live view and after that it shows the image
I would love to buy this cam but it has only 5fps
😂😂😂😂 same her only 5 FPS in 2020!
Oh well. Then upgrade to Canon EOS R5 or Canon EOS R6. Thanks!
@@krranjit if the focus is spot on 5fps is plenty
@@krranjit 5fps is not great, however mirrorless camera's are more accurate in depth, so more shots will be in focus, unless you want to go thru 25 of the "same ish" photos to edit, and waste time, haha well then have fun. I got pics of my dog in run, with a D5500, wasn't super easy but I got it. 5fps is good enough for avg joes
Hey Ken, it's me again and I have another question. How worse is Z5 low light EVF in comparison with Z6? Some people say there is huge difference, but I have never seen the one from Z6.
I forget, see the two reviews at KenRockwell.com where I go into all the details. It also depends on how low is your light. If it’s light enough to read a book they’re all fine. If it’s outside at night where you’d use a tripod, most Mirrorless are pretty bad - but few people shoot like that.
Thanks @@KenRockwellTV. I do not worry too much as I already bought Z5. I was just curious to know how bad is Z5 EVF in comparison with Z6 that makes people so upset :) Thanks for your review and responses.
Ken Rockwell, if anything, the point of going mirrorless is to LOSE WEIGHT. This is a whopping 675g as opposed to 485g in the EOS RP. Why would one pick this up over an actual DSLR or over an EOS RP that weighs only as much as a Fuji X100V?
Beats me! People get lulled into a false sense of expecting old lenses they already own to work well on the FTZ adapter and get sucked into buying more of this Nikon gear rather than getting with the program and taking this chance to upgrade to Canon. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/index.htm
so your advise would be to go with the canon rp over the z5 (which is 1000 bucks right now)? Thanks!
Yes, always has been. Canon has a much better system with better support and a brighter future. See also www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm thanks!
Thanks ken
Also, and I mean no offense, does canon pay you to say good things/promote? This is an honest question. To many dishonest reviewers.
@@joeeley5354 no one pays me anything to make these videos; that’s why I can say things so directly. I don’t have any camera makers to worry about ticking off by being honest, unlike magazines and commercial websites with camera ads that will never just come right out and say which brand is best today. Thanks!
Hi ken, Thanks again for your thorough response. Good to hear!
Excellent review thanks.
Which one would you recommend for family kids an a little landscape travel? Z5 kit lens or a6400 18-135? They are the same price in greece 1199€
The 18-135 is much more useful than the 24-50. Go Sony, but not before you look at my favorite the Canon EOS RP www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm. Not sure how well RP tracks focus on moving kids; the 6400 might be better.
@@KenRockwellTV well i worked an rp and it seemed just ok. About 50% in focus for kids. As of low light what is the best camera in this price range?
Question for you on time exposures for this camera, and Z6 and 7IIs as well. I do a lot of time night exposures. I get that if you are by the camera you would hear the shutter closing. But lets say you are at a distance from the camera, doing light painting/flashing how can you tell the exposure is over? On my DSLRs I will often get close enough to took through the viewfinder without touching it to see if the mirror is still up. Does the EVF come back on, or can you program it to have the image display which is temp at best? Trying to determine how you can tell short of touching the camera in case the exposure is not finished.
Good luck! With no tally light you have to guess.
i was going to get this cam but the fact it works really bad in low light sigh now what do i do lol
Use a DSLR or try Canon Mirrorless. Nikon Mirrorless finders are really bad in the dark; DSLRs are best . Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV d780 or the d7500 ? im going to do a lot of night time photography of fast moving cars and some videos of them
@@phantombloodsoulmy understanding is that the full frame D780 will work better in low light. Bigger sensors are more sensitive. The liveview on the D780 is also superior because it has phase detect AF just like a Z6.
@@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548what about hand holding the d780 in lower light (not nighttime, but say in a relatively dark forest during the day where shutter speed might be 1/20)- would the vr in the f mount lenses do a pretty good job, similar to the ibis in the z5?
I don't know anything about cameras. I have a question Nikon Z5 Sigma 105mm f 1.4 Good quality pictures can be taken using lenses What?
You lost me. S good shooter can get great photos with any sort of camera. Better cameras make it faster and easier, but in the hands of a virtuoso the results are the same. Thanks!
Nice to see you in youtube
Thank you!
Ken's reviews are great because they also contain lots of tips for taking better photos.
Yes! Thank you!!!
The thing you said about the vertical images - what? My old Nikon D90 always makes vertical images actually vertical. I don't have to rotate them
You don’t have to rotate your D90 images because 99% of all software and browsers read the rotation flag and display them vertically. The problem is the odd price of software or internet browser or yearbook company whose software doesn’t. Therefore I worry about this and rotate my pixels later using the lossless rotate command in Photo Mechanic at camerabits.com thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV ooh, I get it. Weird there even exist software and browsers that wouldn't rotate it
When I look at super saturated images, I think of Ken Rockwell
Yeah I don’t like the look so much. OTOH I am starting to appreciate his views more than I did.
Thank you!
Ken has been super helpful to me in choosing gear over the years and I really like the historical record his website still is. Loving the move to UA-cam. I have even donated on his website to Ken.
Geeezzzzz great review, all my questions answered. Thanks!
Thank YOU!
Just bought the 24/200 4-6.3 vr for my Z5. helpfull info which no one will test. I mounted the lens and proceeded to accidently dropped the whole rig (never dropped a camera in my life). good fall off a table and on to hardwood floor. no issues, checked it all out. good for you Nikon!
Yes!!! These plastic lenses usually do a pretty good job of bouncing. Whew!
Has anyone experienced eye misfocused issue using 85 1.8s lens?
Nope.
I like your post about the Z5. May I know your thoughts about comparing the D780 versus the Z5? Which one has the edge in image quality?
Same tech image quality. Difference is in usability, frame rate and your choice of viewfinder - which are totally opposite. See my d780 review www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d780.htm and also see it on UA-cam.
Needing to upgrade my D600 at some point to mirrorless full frame the inability to shoot with manual Nikon ai/ais mount glass with proper exposure preview... because the FTZ adaptor is holding the aperture blades open all the time (like an SLR/DSLR with an OVFnot an EVF)...was almost a deal breaker...!!!!! and then with a little head scratching... I realised that there is a solution... although unfortunately it means spending even more money (around £45 on top of your new camera and FTZ Adaptor noooo) on a K&F Concept Nikon ai to Z Adaptor.... with manual control of the aperture open and close lever.... to get the same experience that we all Love of using manual lenses mounted on any other mirrorless camera....!!!!! Just Please tell me that it doesn't treat af lenses in the same way, not giving you real time aperture and exposure preview (instead insisting on acquiring focus wide open like a SLR/DSLR and resulting in a really disjointed experience with no real advantage over an OVF) which with the ability to compose the entire shot in the viewfinder before taking the exposure is the very strength of mirrorless cameras that we've all been waiting for and enjoying (with fuji etc and manual glass) for the past ten years. Would be Amazing if Nikon could put a constant/manual aperture mode into the next firmware for the Z5 Z6 Z7 and Z50 to make it a much more seamless experience without having to spend an extra £50 on a non smart adaptor in order to use Manual Ai/Ais and D glass.... or a mode to get the same experience and full realtime image preview with f/g mount lenses.... Be really grateful if anyone could chime in on how the Z cameras behave with F/G and Z lenses in this regard as this could also be another deal breaker as well.... even though AF speed might take a hit by not being able to focus wide open and then close down for each individual exposure.... Be really grateful for any advice or if any one else could chime in and shed any light on this..... Till then I'll have to stick with my Beloved but ageing XT1+ speed booster and beautiful selection of manual glass as a mirrorless counterpart to my D600.... and poss hold off on a Z50 as a mirrorless stopgap to be able to use all of my Nikon af - F/G glass.... till I can afford a Z6 as a replacement....Thanks Chris :)
Forget manual lenses on the Z. Instead go Canon with any basic $15 Chinese adapter. It’s still a pain; if you shoot these lenses stick with a DSLR. Full details at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm
Finally got the Z5 with that tiny little kit lens. My first ever foray into full frames, jumping from that entry level APS-C Canon I've been using for years.....so far I have been astonished with the quality of the photos, especially so as this is the quality from a kit lens, not even from an 'S' lens. With IBIS and weather proofing and practically the same magnesium build and button layout without skimping on any single button from the Z6/7, this camera is a bargain!
Loved your review thoroughly! Subbed! Cheers from India!
Hi! Hint: S means nothing. The kit lenses are just as sharp as you can see; S lenses just cost more. Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV i will keep that in mind. Will add all those adapter in my cart. Thanks for the insights. I never could have guessed that a single camera system could be made this versatile.
Much more thorough in user-oriented terms than other reviews I've seen and read. The number of variables inherent in digital photography is overwhelming. Given that most "reviews" are crypto-sales pitches for this or that product, this is helpful to the struggling neophyte.
Thanks! I actually shoot rather than just talk about it. Beware anything you see on UA-cam. See www.kenrockwell.com/tech/2-kinds-of-photographers.htm
I am loving this. I have been using D5600’s for their touch screen performance and battery life and their compact light weight. They are pretty disposable but much tougher than they look. I’ve only broken one in the last two years. This looks like a perfect time to swap to mirrorless. I fancy the 28-200 and maybe the newest wide to telephoto zoom. Do I need fx? I honestly don’t know. No built in flash, I use the little Nikon flash Ken does with the flip up head and super fast recycling.
Be careful, the Z6 and Z7 had AWFUL autrofocus for action. It may be time to step up to Canon Mirrorless; the Canon EOS Canon EOS R5 and Canon EOS Canon EOS R6 are the best on earth www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/index.htm thanks!
Ken what white balance setting do you use?
AUTO 1 usually. See www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d850.htm#usage under Auto White Balance which explains it all (D850 uses the same system). Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV Thanks for the quick response! Ignore the trolling haters!
You need to switch on lowlight AF on the menu
I do. Thanks! Mystery is why is they even an option? It should just do it.
You mention Canon quite a bit, but the Canon equivalent to this seems to be the R8, which has only one SD card slot and an electronic first curtain shutter. The Z5 has a mechanical shutter, electronic first curtain, and electronic shutter.
This isn't like cars, where different makers all make very close to the same thing. Nikon and Canon are quite different. The Z5 is old and heavy (670g), having come out in 2020. R8 is a much smaller, just 461g, (⅓ lighter!) and more compact camera and came out only a year ago. The Z8 has no mechanical shutter as those have been made obsolete by the newest sensors; mechanical shutters are a hold-over from before sensors could read-out all the data to let them work with flash; R8 has both first-curtain and fully electronic shutters. Thanks! full reviews: kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/r8.htm and www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z5.htm
@@KenRockwellTV the pandemic had thrown my sense of time so much that I still think of 2020 as "last year" 😭
@@KenRockwellTV Well, I ended up buying the R8 and the nifty 50 from Samy's camera today.
This vs z50??
Almost the same camera except for sensor size. Go Z5 for nature and landscape and Z50 for compact size and fun travel. I prefer Canon over these.
Thanks for the review! I just got Z5 and it's darkest time of the year. Options are flash or high ISO. I prefer off-camera flash. Best camera I've ever used.
Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV
What are you thanking @mizachs for? You tried to push Canon over Nikon and he bought Nikon.
Your video starts out AWESOME but suddenly you dip over to Canon and start pushing it. Your video would have been GREAT if you just stuck to the points and not suddenly interjected Canon.
By far the only camera guru who doesn’t push the agenda of buying a new camera or lens. Quick question though, i am new to family photoshoots and event photography. I have a canon M50, and i want to upgrade to full frame camera. Should i go for the Rp or Z5? I believe the canon R lens are superior and here to stay.
Thank you!!! I prefer Canon. Love the RP www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm for its practicality and while you’re at it, the RF 24-105 STM or 24-240.
RP is not good. I had the RP and quickly got rid of it. It’s lacking in many areas compared to the Z5. DPReview compared the two check that out for an unbiased opinion and they didn’t even mention the Z5 has in body image stabilization and RP doesn’t. Z5 $999 right now until end of weekend.
@@livejames9374 I am skeptic about the autofocus hit rate!!! Coz canon and sony are way ahead in terms of accuracy.
@@avikmajumdar1791 Canon is ahead with R5. Sony is ahead with the A1. Nikon hasn’t released cameras in those higher segments yet. However the Eos R, RP, A7iii and A7Riv are not better at AF than Z6/Z7 ii especially after the recent firmware updates. When there’s complaints about the Z af it’s always with full auto (camera picks subject) continuous tracking of fast moving small subjects like birds, but guess what RP, R A7iii etc aren’t great at that either. I shoot professional sports with R6 and Z6ii. Both get great results. Eye af for both are same and super accurate. R6 is better with full auto tracking when I don’t want to think at all, but that camera also has drawbacks - worse battery life, worse plastic like build quality, I find Z lenses to be better than RF, for AF-S single point Nikon is more accurate. Z series has better files (color, dynamic range etc), ergonomics yet people only talk about AF.
Please review visit old film cameras... OM4ti. My favorite
Some fine day - when the Japanese calm down and stop creating so many new products. Thanks!
Shame on you Ken. It’s not a pro camera it’s a budget version of the Mid level Nikon offerings. Why even mention the R6 at all, focus our attention to the cameras at hand, the budget full frame offering from Nikon.
It seems you did not find much wrong with this little beauty. Shame on you.
Advertising for Cannon off Nikon’s back ”Great little camera” to just upgrade to Cannon. People just want to know about the products on the tables and how it pro forms
The Z5 is nice, I prefer the EOS RP for less money. Problem also is once you’ve got a Z5 that you’ll be stuck in the Nikon system.
@@KenRockwellTV unless you are already deep in the nikon system, and Like it.
@@KenRockwellTV What you smokin' Ken? there is nothing about the RP that's better than the Z5. Feel - no, Image Quality - Definetley a big no, Auto Focus - No, Viewfinder - No, LCD Screen - No, SD Cards - No, Dynamic Range - No. Battery life - no - granted there are a wider selection of RF lenses for now but the good glass is very expensive and the 24-105 you call out in the video - apart from the metal mount is absolute rubbish - terribly soft anywhere outside the centre of the lens to the point of being unusable between 24mm and 70mm, dull and uncontrasty with a slow slow F7.1 at the long end.
Dude Love You, Picking Up Z50 with Z5
You're the best, but I don't quite understand your comment. Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV i meant i was going to buy the Z5 + Z50 camera for travel!
Here's a canon fanboy reviewing nikon. What an irony!
NikonIcon.com thanks!
Yes, exactly what I thought. He started out well showing the fantastic images it’s handling on point to slating it with Cannon’s offerings.
Shame on him. I wonder if he is payed or affiliated by other brands?
@@johnnybigs1527 huh? Your comment is incoherent.
24-105 is coming to the Z line, at some point. Hopefully it will be in the batch of 12 lenses Nikon is due to announce in 2021, although it will be a n f/4 I think, at least to start... they might do a 2.8 but I heard it was going to be an f/4.
Why waste time waiting? Geeze, Canon has a slew of RF lenses and with such a small budget as Nikon slowly continues its exit from the consumer camera market you should upgrade to Canon. All of Canon’s new and used 24-105 work flawlessly on Canon’s Mirrorless. So what is the question? Here’s what you can get new today www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/lenses/index.htm and all the ef lenses also work flawlessly. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/index.htm#24 thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV Now that's its a good 2 years later from when this video was posted, perhaps maybe doing an update. It seems that Nikon has come a long way in 2 years. The Zf, Z8, z9, (Canon also released the same crappy 24-50 lens that Nikon did). Not to mention Canon has pretty much locked out most third party lenses or lens support (minus those with dumb adapters). So an update overall would be interesting to see.
This video is great! You just gained another subscriber from me for sure!
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This is such a good review. You are hilarious. I have a Nikon D3100 and I've been using it for years. I want to upgrade but I have no clue what to upgrade to. This has really helped me narrow down my options.
Hi! There’s nothing wrong with the d3100. If you want something newer, I’d look at Canon for Mirrorless rather than Nikon. Check out the EOS R50 www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/r50.htm or R10; full info at that link on everything. Just keeping it real. Thanks!!
Ken, The nikon z5 outperform the canon rp: better dynamic range, max 8000 shutter speed, IBS ....
So? None of that matter if you miss the shot because the of the Z5's handling. See also kenrockwell.com/tech/diq.htm Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV the Z5 handles better too
sir z5 or eos rp ?
Canon EOS RP! www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm Thanks!
@@KenRockwellTV okay sir , thank you !:)
Z5. Canon RP has the worst sensor of all the mirrorless, no IBIS, lower resolution EVF. Z lenses are fantastic
Z5 beats that camera in almost every aspect
RP is the worst camera ever by canon.. you should not be comparing z5 with rp..
Would you recommend go for Z5 instead of Z50?
Maybe, but for full frame I’d get the even better Canon EOS RP www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/rp.htm and rf 24-105 for less money. www.kenrockwell.com/canon/eos-r/lenses/24-105mm-stm.htm
@@KenRockwellTV Thank you for the replying, Here in Cyprus ( European Union) we have different prices. Now they cut a little bit the prices: Nikon z50 16-55 + ftz adapter - 1090 EUR, CANON RP 24-105 = 1199 EUR , and Z5 with 24-50mm F.4-6.3 kit 1249 EUR. Not such a big of a difference. What will be better than? As RP is loosing it's dual autofocus when in 4k and also it does not have an image stabilization in body as nikon..
Please..
Fantastic reviews Ken. Thank you.
Thank YOU!
Well you are the professional with those pics. Us amateurs need more training. 😂
Practice makes perfect, check out these articles I've written: www.kenrockwell.com/tech.htm
The fact you can use cannon lenses and other different brands with adapters cause of the large z mount is fuckin cool to me. The raw files actually look better at high isos especially after a little noise reduction the jpegs seem to be smoothed out a lil more because of the camera reducing noise
Yes, but be careful. Adapted lenses never work as well all the time as camera brand; adapters are always part Sceince experiment. Thanks
Now if they'd just release a FTZ adapter with a focus motor
Good real world review, as usual. However a comparo of the Z5 to the RP (vs R6) may appeal to some of us Nikon guys with shorter pockets. Either way, new lenses are likely in the mix for those not invested in Canon. Z-lenses seem to make excellent images.
Canon so rules. I should have said that In a few places. RP is a better camera for less.
The Nikon Z5 is approximately 15g heavier than the Z6/Z7/Z6II/Z7II though.
Hi Sergei, my Z5 measures 670g with battery and card; the Z6 II weighs 705g with battery and card; the Z7 II 694g. All these are my actual measured weights on my scale, reported to a tenth of a gram in each review at KenRockwell.com. Not sure where you see that the Z5 is heavier; I bet you're comparing the weight of the Z5 with card and battery to a stripped (empty) weight for the others. THANKS!!!
thanks for the fine review, gary from the netherlands
Thanks, Gary!
Excellent video 😮!
Thank you!!!!
I bought this with 24-200 as body ended up only for around AU$250 from Amazon.
Superb! Thanks!!
Thank you for your kind review, while I know the Nikon Z6 on 2nd hand market is now at the same price as Z5 in my area, I still may pick up Z5 just for the dual card slots and the mode dial user accessibility alone. If I missout the top LCD, I can just pick up my D750 again since I'm in no way selling that beast. I was about to pick up Canon RF's ecosystem but I just can't move on from SOOC images from Nikon, it's just something else for me, I'm just a hobbyist with modelling photography sidejobs and not in any way professional. In the end I have a D3300 if I want to have fun and not worry about weight, D750 and Z5 if someone decides to call my service. I still keep my F mount too, 105mm f1.4E optics is just out of this world. Once again, thank you Ken.
All fun. I do prefer Canon and obviously we all have our preferences.
Ken was Mr Nikon for 20 years then switched to Canon, well qualified to comment
I still shoot both all the time, but prefer my Canons since my 5D MK III of 2013. Thanks!
thanks for this video. very informative.
Thank YOU!!! Full review and guides at www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z5.htm
Learned a lot about this camera that other reviews don't talk about.
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nice to see you, you are a remarkable man
Thank you!!!
Thank you for this great review. I decided long ago that variable aperture lenses are not for me. I never shoot auto ISO.
Thanks!
Z5 is absolutely perfect for my portrait business, with Z primes. No need to spend more.
Yes!!!!! Perfect. Thanks.
Does your Canon have iluminated buttons like your china made American Iphone ?
Only the 1DX series, and only some buttons. This is a feature the Japanese are saving until they need it for marketing. Thanks!
Nikon really kicked Canon's ass this time, especially the EOS RP. For 100€ more (in 🇩🇪), you get IBIS, weather sealing, dual SD slots and joystick. Although I'm a longtime Canon fan, this Z5 really makes me seriously consider switching to Nikon.
Look at the lens lineup and www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm the Z5 is nice, but a bit of an island.
@@KenRockwellTV there are always manual vintage lenses. 😀
I use the Z5 with (very) old Nikon (and Canon and Olympus OM and Zeiss ) so called vintage lenses using cheap contactless adapters for about 50 dollars and the camera works well with all those lenses (about 10).
Swell! Thanks.
I remember shooting TriX at EI 3200 using Acufine or Diafine to push it. Grain like walnuts but that was incredibly fast, EI 3200. So, loosing a little detail on the clock....haha. Still better than it was.
Actually, we never lost detail with faster film. We had loads of grain, but the detail was there and even enhanced perceptually by the grain. Modern noise reduction is what makes crazy hugh ISOs possible, but at the expensive of detail. This is one of the magic of film: the fact that we still have all the detail along with the grain. I'm surprised some new-age nuts don't advocate shooting digital at high ISOs without noise reduction. Thanks!