With 4C coils, you are selling the Brisks short with that small of a gap. Even at Stage 3 boost levels the Brisks don't "blow out" at .025" The installs that I do and/or recommend I set to minimum .023" & (given the age of the upgraded coil) often .024" Try it and you will pick up have more improvements. You will also "feel" when the Brisks need to ran through the cleaning cycle. Enjoying your videos & subscribed.
I have those same plugs and coils. The car came with them so I don't know how much difference they made so this helps. I did notice that the plugs seem overly worn after only a few k miles when I took them out the other day to check them. I have the front mount as well so I have run stg 2.
I love your videos, if I may it looks like you need a new o ring in the pcv (and cleaning the pcv) also a catch can would be a good thing to have , there is a lot of oil near it (I had the same issue)
I don’t wish to come across like a know it all and I’m sorry if I do! I don’t know what type of brisk plugs you are using or if they’d be better with an ecu flash or not but Personally I found the brisk spark plugs to be not all that great, brisk also deals with pulsar spark plugs and I’ve had a set of those as well. The pulsar plugs have a capacitor in them to keep a charge in them and deliver a better spark but both sets of brisk and pulsar I’ve had have been amazing to begin with but then fail and become useless. The brisk is not so bad as it doesn’t have a capacitor but the strange round shape of them without an electrode poking out doesn’t ignite the fuel in the same place every time and causes an uneven burn. I’ve tried to claim my money back from the pulsar/brisk dealer but they just kept on stalling and kept making me “check” things so the warranty would run out before they got to the bottom of it. In the end the dealer called me stupid basically and ended up mocking me in my emails asking if I knew how a car actually works as if the dealer knew everything. I proved numerous times with a resistance meter and a spark plug tester but they just said I wasn’t doing it right. I also replaced my ignition coils as I thought the coils were initially maybe the bad thing but it was just the crappy plugs. Since then I’d never run any brisk or pulsar plugs they just aren’t all that reliable for me and I’ve seen on forums people have similar issues. I’m just going to stick with Denso or NGK
This is of great interest to me because I daily a 2015 Abarth but am thinking about making it my project go fast and dailying something else. Is there one place on the interwebs where you can recommend I go for info on upgrades? A forum where fellow tubby middle aged guys go, not filled with kids who can’t write a complete sentence.
Kip Amore I am on both fiat500usa forum and fiat500owners forum. USA has more mod info and is a little more active, but does have a few flame wars. Owners is more grown up feeling, but less mod and less Abarth info. Good luck!
Hello, what year abarth is this? 2015+? I’m asking because I heard the oft can’t data log on abarths for some reason, thinking about picking one up for my 2017 124 abarth and would enjoy a response if you know the answer
Every Other Friday Off Good to know. I’ve just started to upgrade my Abarth and thought I’d do the coils/plugs first for that reason. I love your channel keep it up!
I just got an OFT V2, Which option should I select? As there is no specific option for 500 abarth. Is it under the ABARTH -> ESSESSE PUNTO? next option is T-JET Multiair 177HP.
Are you talking about when you first plug it in? I believe Punto, not TJet. Is 124 an option? I think it doesn’t matter a whole lot because you will end up emailing them for a tune. It’s been a long time since I read mine, but punto is what rings a bell
@@shouldigetit I love it, I'm running the phase 1 on my 500T smoothes out the dip in boost on those cars. Power is smooth all the way. Almost like a V6 feeling.
wtf tuning company recommend sow rev all the way to redline with out being in gear? not good for the engine my guy. every tune I've installed never had me rev the car lol. but im hoping this goes well for you! 500 abarth gang!!!
brisk spark plugs are no good for the abarth, i had them on my 2014 and they did int last very long. i put back the NGK and runs a lot better. brisk plugs will cause you problems.
I hadn't heard that, I'll keep an eye on them. I know they will foul if you don't perform an Italian tune up (high load / revs) pretty frequently. We will see. Did they cause you specific problems? And how soon?
@@EveryOtherFridayOff yes i lost a lot of power and boost. Over 3500rpm at 80-100% throttle it jerks, misses, machine gun popping exhaust, no acceleration, coughs and splutters and is all round running crap. If I back off a little then gently throttle back on it's ok but in SPORT mode it just won't run above 3500rpm when pushed. No CEL and no stored or pending codes! in the end i found the issue was with the Brisk spark plugs. i installed brand new NGK and problem was solved and all the power came back better than before.
I have EC on my Abarth, but OFT on my 2015 Turbo. HUGE warning for anyone buying this for a 2015 or newer : Shiv does not provide stage 2, does not provide custom tuning, and does not provide the files for end user tuning in 2015+ models. It does not say this in his advertising.
@@EveryOtherFridayOff Tork and EC can both tune 2015+, but with EC it's hit and miss depending on if they've had that ECU revision before. Some they have difficulty with.
@@shouldigetit shiv didn't mention but it's common knowledge in the Fiat community. 2015 ECU (8gmk) is quite different from the earlier ECU and requires extra work to tune. It can be done, but I can only assume he doesn't want to do it.
Thank You very much! really like your videos!
Your very welcome, thanks!
With 4C coils, you are selling the Brisks short with that small of a gap. Even at Stage 3 boost levels the Brisks don't "blow out" at .025"
The installs that I do and/or recommend I set to minimum .023" & (given the age of the upgraded coil) often .024"
Try it and you will pick up have more improvements. You will also "feel" when the Brisks need to ran through the cleaning cycle.
Enjoying your videos & subscribed.
mike p Thanks for the tip!
I have those same plugs and coils. The car came with them so I don't know how much difference they made so this helps. I did notice that the plugs seem overly worn after only a few k miles when I took them out the other day to check them. I have the front mount as well so I have run stg 2.
Thanks. Yes, I don't think you get the racing plugs for longevity. I'll be going FMIC and stage 2 shortly as well. Looking forward to it.
Awesome job i wish i had more time on my abarth. I will definitely look for the open source tablet
I love your videos, if I may it looks like you need a new o ring in the pcv (and cleaning the pcv) also a catch can would be a good thing to have , there is a lot of oil near it (I had the same issue)
Man, I even filmed the passenger side most plug the closest so you wouldn't notice that! Good eye, and thanks for watching.
Awesome video!
I got the oft but I haven't flash my ecu, great videos man!
Load it up, its a lot of fun.
I don’t wish to come across like a know it all and I’m sorry if I do! I don’t know what type of brisk plugs you are using or if they’d be better with an ecu flash or not but Personally I found the brisk spark plugs to be not all that great, brisk also deals with pulsar spark plugs and I’ve had a set of those as well. The pulsar plugs have a capacitor in them to keep a charge in them and deliver a better spark but both sets of brisk and pulsar I’ve had have been amazing to begin with but then fail and become useless. The brisk is not so bad as it doesn’t have a capacitor but the strange round shape of them without an electrode poking out doesn’t ignite the fuel in the same place every time and causes an uneven burn. I’ve tried to claim my money back from the pulsar/brisk dealer but they just kept on stalling and kept making me “check” things so the warranty would run out before they got to the bottom of it. In the end the dealer called me stupid basically and ended up mocking me in my emails asking if I knew how a car actually works as if the dealer knew everything. I proved numerous times with a resistance meter and a spark plug tester but they just said I wasn’t doing it right. I also replaced my ignition coils as I thought the coils were initially maybe the bad thing but it was just the crappy plugs. Since then I’d never run any brisk or pulsar plugs they just aren’t all that reliable for me and I’ve seen on forums people have similar issues. I’m just going to stick with Denso or NGK
This is of great interest to me because I daily a 2015 Abarth but am thinking about making it my project go fast and dailying something else. Is there one place on the interwebs where you can recommend I go for info on upgrades? A forum where fellow tubby middle aged guys go, not filled with kids who can’t write a complete sentence.
Kip Amore I am on both fiat500usa forum and fiat500owners forum. USA has more mod info and is a little more active, but does have a few flame wars. Owners is more grown up feeling, but less mod and less Abarth info. Good luck!
Hello, what year abarth is this? 2015+? I’m asking because I heard the oft can’t data log on abarths for some reason, thinking about picking one up for my 2017 124 abarth and would enjoy a response if you know the answer
I’m a 2013. I believe there was an ECU change for 2015+.
with the tune was that evap code from the free mod video taken car of?
Do the coils and plugs make a noticeable difference without the digital tuning?
No. They protect you from detonation when the boost level is raised by tuning
Every Other Friday Off Good to know. I’ve just started to upgrade my Abarth and thought I’d do the coils/plugs first for that reason. I love your channel keep it up!
I'm looking to buy a Openflash tune with the 4c coils ...do you still recommend the Openflash tune?
I’m still happy with it. I don’t know enough to “recommend” it over the other tunes because I haven’t tested them, but I’m happy with my choice
I just got an OFT V2, Which option should I select? As there is no specific option for 500 abarth. Is it under the ABARTH -> ESSESSE PUNTO? next option is T-JET Multiair 177HP.
Are you talking about when you first plug it in? I believe Punto, not TJet. Is 124 an option? I think it doesn’t matter a whole lot because you will end up emailing them for a tune. It’s been a long time since I read mine, but punto is what rings a bell
@@EveryOtherFridayOff yeah when you first read the ECU. Under Abarth -> first option is 124 spider. Second Option is Punto Evo Essesse
I sent them the file, should be good thanks
@@vincentdemers6066 how is it? I’m thinking of getting a unit and reviewing it
@@shouldigetit I love it, I'm running the phase 1 on my 500T smoothes out the dip in boost on those cars. Power is smooth all the way. Almost like a V6 feeling.
What aftermarket ignition coil & plugs do you recommend?
Doing a remap will for sure increase top speed too right?
I honestly don’t know if the Abarth runs out of power or gears first, so not sure
Did your OFT came with pre tunes on the device?
No, for the 500 I haven’t heard of anyone having a successful auto tune. We all have to read and send off for our tune
Also how long did it take for you to receive the tune?
Of course I sent them my part on a Friday afternoon and thought I’d be screwed until the next week, but they actually got it back to me on Sunday
With the open flash, can you delete the cat code for " race only " after installation of a down pipe? thanks
I don’t know, might try asking them
Are the coils the same on the multiair vs. Tjet?
Sorry, don’t know much about the tjet
@@EveryOtherFridayOff no worries, thanks for the speedy reply. Your videos are great thanks for putting the info out that you do.
wtf tuning company recommend sow rev all the way to redline with out being in gear? not good for the engine my guy. every tune I've installed never had me rev the car lol. but im hoping this goes well for you! 500 abarth gang!!!
brisk spark plugs are no good for the abarth, i had them on my 2014 and they did int last very long. i put back the NGK and runs a lot better.
brisk plugs will cause you problems.
I hadn't heard that, I'll keep an eye on them. I know they will foul if you don't perform an Italian tune up (high load / revs) pretty frequently. We will see. Did they cause you specific problems? And how soon?
@@EveryOtherFridayOff yes i lost a lot of power and boost.
Over 3500rpm at 80-100% throttle it jerks, misses, machine gun popping exhaust, no acceleration, coughs and splutters and is all round running crap. If I back off a little then gently throttle back on it's ok but in SPORT mode it just won't run above 3500rpm when pushed. No CEL and no stored or pending codes!
in the end i found the issue was with the Brisk spark plugs. i installed brand new NGK and problem was solved and all the power came back better than before.
+1 I'd go with a colder heat range NGK plug.
I have EC on my Abarth, but OFT on my 2015 Turbo. HUGE warning for anyone buying this for a 2015 or newer : Shiv does not provide stage 2, does not provide custom tuning, and does not provide the files for end user tuning in 2015+ models. It does not say this in his advertising.
Good point. I had read about this and should have mentioned it. A lot of complaints about 2015+, as well as automatic and non Abarth I believe.
@@EveryOtherFridayOff Tork and EC can both tune 2015+, but with EC it's hit and miss depending on if they've had that ECU revision before. Some they have difficulty with.
Interesting. Did Shiv mention why 2015+ is an issue? How is stage 1 for you?
@@shouldigetit shiv didn't mention but it's common knowledge in the Fiat community. 2015 ECU (8gmk) is quite different from the earlier ECU and requires extra work to tune. It can be done, but I can only assume he doesn't want to do it.